Soder - 23: Dad's Helicopter with Joe Santagato | Soder Podcast | EP 23

Episode Date: April 17, 2024

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On 24th Avenue, it's right by where that park is. Dude, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're kind of like Frank and Anthony's, that sandwich place. Yeah, I think they closed down. They were on 23rd Avenue. Yeah, they're all, dude, that was the saddest closing of a store I've ever seen in my life. I went and got one of their sandwiches and the guy, I was talking to the guy behind the

counter and he was like, yeah. I can't do it anymore. And you know, he goes like, yeah, they increased the rent and you're like, ah, but you know, this place is a it's and he goes, well, this we're closing. And I was like, what? As he's making my sandwich, he's like, we're done. My last one right here. I was like, dude, I was like, this is the last sandwich you're making me. He's like, yeah. I was just like, oh fuck. It was like the saddest leaving of a deli I've ever had in my life. I was like this is the last thing what you're making me is like yeah Yeah, I was just like oh fuck it was like the saddest leaving of a belly. I've ever had in my life I was like god. I'm sorry. Sorry, man. That's like one of those things really well better luck

Come and tell me this after The best sandwich that you're eating sadly making he's like I don't even care anymore Yeah, I don't know he's like usually I put hot sauce on this but fuck you While he's telling me it's the last sandwich he makes he's realizing that like as he's making he's like what am I doing? Fuck am I even doing right now? He's realizing how sad it is Yeah, I guess it is and just cuz I went like hey, what are they raising the rent? He goes they are Hold the fuck on And just because I went like, hey, what are they raising the rent? And he goes, they are. And I go, I don't know. He probably thought it was you. He's like, hold the fuck on.

What's your last name? Who are you? Oh, my god. That's fucking hilarious, man. That's why I appreciate you coming on the podcast. Yeah, for sure, man. Me and you both did GuyCorp. Dude, I know.

That was such a weird experience, too. So here's what I'm interested in. So that was a time in my life, because I'm older than you. That was a time in my life where I just quit drinking. So I was like fresh sober, right? And they're like, I was on Guy Code for two seasons. And they're like, hey, we're doing Guy Court.

And I was like, there's no way I'm going to do gonna do this and my manager's like do you want to do it I was like you asked for a lot of money and he came back and he goes they're doing it oh shit oh shit but how did you get into the guy code world uh dude I don't even know I remember way back in the day I actually auditioned for that show for a guy code for a guy code? For a guy code. And like, I was not prepared at all. How old were you when you auditioned?

Maybe like 23 or something like that. Okay, yeah. But it was like, so it was like the first season went out and then I think they were doing, like I don't remember who was on season one. Season one was like, you know, a lot of the guys that were the big, you know,

Schultz, DiStefano. Was Pete on it then? No, Pete joined, I joined season three and I think Pete joined season four. So season four and five, I did three and four and then I left for five. Yeah. They did five and six, I think. I remember seeing Chris and Schultz doing it, but I don't think Pete was on it yet. So it may have been like that season.

Yeah, because Pete did Wylan out and then he moved to Guy Cubs. Yeah. But I, so like I auditioned for that and I like, I was just making like YouTube's, YouTube, you hear me? Now I sound like I'm fucking 97 years old. I was doing making like YouTube's YouTube. Do you hear me now? It's not like I'm fucking 97 years old. I was doing the YouTube's pretty good. I was making videos and then, uh, but I, did they call you and go like, Hey, we saw your videos. Do you want to come check this out?

Yeah, I think so. Like I was like taking some meetings with Viacom because I was like making a somewhat of a name for myself at the time, but I, at that time, I was definitely not like, I'm a comedian. Like I was making like digital videos, but it was like trying to figure out how to make videos for that. So it was completely different than just like writing jokes,

which I wasn't really doing. Well also MTV at that time was spiraling. Like they were like trying to figure out who was gonna lift them up out of this nosedive because music videos weren't happening anymore. Everything was going to the internet. Apple Music was killing them. So they were like how the fuck do we pull out of this? And it was just such an easy thing too. But I remember I went in and I auditioned for that and like did

horribly. So did I. I auditioned season one. I auditioned before they made the show and they brought me in and I bombed Bomb the audition. I was so bad and then they made it cuz it was like were you my audition was me in a like boardroom Yes with like three producers and there was so intimidated by that, because at that point it was just me with a camera, no one else in a room. Yeah. So now I'm there with a fucking camera and then there's like five people and it's like- And they're interrogating you.

Yeah, and I'm like, I'm not prepared for this at all. They're going like, boners. Like, they're like- Like literally, it's like, boners. Go. Go, say something. What do you got about boners? And I was like, I have one. And then it clears the room. And they're like, yeah, no, we're not in here. Go say something. What do you got about boners? And I was like, I have one.

And then it clears the room. And they're like, yeah, no, we're not in here. You're done. Yeah. But they were like, and again, this is like a season one, I was drinking. Yeah. Cause season three, they brought me on. Season four was when I quit drinking. So season three, season three, it was like natural. Cause I was hung over and I was like, ah, she won't ever call you. I was like an old detective old detective I was like this stupid old bitch wants half my money so they loved that but season one I like tried like for that audition so I came in fresh-faced and I was like I mean who doesn't get boners and they're kind of like this corny asshole you're like reading jokes that you like wrote down

verbatim well born boner like a stick up and like, get the fuck out of here. She's like, well, that fucking sucks. But I remember bombing that and then being like, no. And I wasn't really like mad about it. I was more like, ah, well, that didn't come around. Yeah. I mean, I didn't leave that thinking nailed it at all.

So I was like, I'm not getting that for sure. I was like, OK, that was a cool experience, but no fucking way. Did you want to make that move at that time? Cause you're, you're making, you're making way on YouTube. You're making videos. You're doing like, yeah, I, it was funny because a lot of people would ask me back then too, like, Oh, what do you want to do with this? Do you want to be like an actor or you want to do like a comedy or whatever? And I was like, I don't know. Like, so I was just kind of taking any opportunity that sort of came my way that I thought was like a little interesting and being like, Oh, I'm going

to try and see if I could do something like this. Sure. Like I have no idea. I think a lot of, a lot of the times people in your position where you're just like, Oh, I liked making videos with my friends. I like doing these games and stuff. That's what I want to do and immediately someone goes what about this? Yeah, there's always someone there to go like well if you ever want it like stand up I just wanted to do stand up. Yeah, that was all I ever wanted to do and then I moved here and people are like

Do you act and you're like no and they're like you should and you're what about being a producer? You're like, I don't really know what that means But it sounds interesting. It's a job. We're gonna, you should. And you're like, what about being a producer? You're like, I don't really know what that means, but it sounds interesting. It's a job. We're gonna have you do audio mixing. And you're like, I don't even know what the fuck that is. What about music?

You like to sing? Sing for me. Because that's what was, that was showbiz in like the 40s. If you were like, if you were like, I could tell a couple of funny stories and then like now sing and dance. You know, to like do everything. But now in the modern day, you're like, no, I just want to do this one thing that I like doing.

And maybe occasionally a couple other things. Yeah. I was still like kind of figuring it out too. Like especially at a young age, I was very, uh, I just didn't really like to listen to people's advice or whatever, which was like stupid at the time, but it actually- That's also being young. Yeah, and it really helped me figure out what I had to do because there wasn't a lot of advice to even give me at the time because no one was like making their way on YouTube or anything like that. Also people didn't even think it was valuable.

That's where- At all, yeah, exactly. And I didn't think it was, and I can tell you, it wasn't valuable. At one time, there wasn't a lot of money in doing it at all. I was building an audience and I was like, I could leverage this one day to do something. But I think that's, I think right there is good info for someone that's starting out in anything. It's like, have no expectations.

Like make exactly what you want to make. And for you, it just make it for you. And if it, like you were building an audience, but you were being you. And now in the day and age of like ads and Instagram filters, everyone's angling for your money. So I think people specifically, just humans, understand when someone's being genuine now more than ever. And I think that's like crazy important

because if you were to be like, I just want to get on GuyCode, your videos would have sucked. Yeah, a hundred percent. Cause you would have been like boners. And you're like, what the hell are you talking about? We're on a ski trip. I probably was doing that too at the time. I probably was just like, dicks, sit.

Am I right? They're ruining a lot of stuff. But yeah, I mean, the GuyCode audition for me was like a thing where I was going to so many auditions that I was like Yeah, but that's not gonna be anything and then you and then I saw you know I was friends with Chrissy D and I was friends with Schultz and I like saw them blow up off that and you're like Oh fuck. Yeah. All right. They got a full show on MTV, too Yeah, and they do like touring to us like dude. They did like a whole guy code tour. Yeah, I remember that and then

They did like a whole guy code tour. Yeah, I remember that. And then Julian McCullough, shout out Julian, he's been on the podcast, he quit guy code. And they were like, we need another white. And then they went right to me, another big guy in the paint. Yeah. And they came down and I was doing a show in Boston. And they were like, can you come write and screen test?

And I was crazy hung over. And I think that saved me. Because I went in and I was like, I want a write and screen test? And I was crazy hungover, and I think that saved me. Because I went in and I was like, I want a coffee, I gotta smoke a cigarette, then let's do this. This guy's a star. Yeah, I sat down. Demanding a coffee, it must be pretty serious. Yeah, like this guy really, but I didn't give a shit.

And the power in not giving a shit is more people need to understand that. 100%, and honestly, like that, what you just said, is exactly, because we just started doing live shows like this year, like in January was our first three, and now we're doing like a bunch for the rest of the year. But I remember thinking about, okay,

like now this is a different sort of aspect, because it is like half sort of stand up, and then the rest is sort of podcasty in a different way. But you're going, the thing about live shows, no matter what you're doing, when you're doing a live show, it's based on the reaction of the audience. The audience is involved.

Like this, we're just talking. This is about us having a conversation. But you go and you add a live audience, you need. Some people don't understand that. And they go, well, we're just going to do what we do. And if they like it, it's like, no, no, no. It's an involvement. It's a conversation. 100%. And the way I was thinking about it, it's like, no, no, no, it's an involvement. It is. It's a conversation.

100%. And the way I was thinking about it, too, was just kind of like. Because I it's it's crazy. It's like it's a very surreal experience to be like, OK, we're and we're jumping right into fucking theater. So it's not really like you go to a club. It's like now it's like, OK, there's a lot of people out there. So I had to get in this sort of frame of mind of like, I have to be, I have to think that I deserve to be there. Sure.

Because if I get out there and I feel like I don't, then I feel like I'm not gonna be able to perform for a bunch of people. But if you just have this like, like I had to like do that where you're like, okay, I belong here and I should be, you know, blah, blah, blah. It makes you like a certain type of confident.

So if you don't care in the same way that like showed up hungover, did this. So if you like don't really care or, you know, how it goes, it's like there's confidence in that. Yeah. It is the age old saying, don't let them see you sweat. Right. If you just show up and you're like,

you could be pouring sweat, but if you're like, fuck this, you sucked, they're like, oh this guy, I've seen people in standup that have zero jokes, but just you're like, fuck this, you sucked. Or like, oh, this guy, I've seen people in standup that have zero jokes, but just have so much confidence that even I'm going like, this guy acts like he should be here, maybe this guy should fucking be here. And I know, and I'm like watching the jokes, I'm like, this guy has dog shit jokes,

but I'm like, God damn, you're just watching him be like, and like taking time, like having, dude, I, I overwork. I just write constantly and you'll see me on stage being like, and you're like, Hey, relax. So it's good to learn. It's good to have a mixture of both of like excitement while also not being desperate, right? Especially when you go into a live show, because dude, so many people want to see

you live, that's how you get the theaters. So you're that confidence is already there. You're like, well, these people want to see us. So let's just have fun. Yeah. I mean, it was also like when we like announced, like we were like, man, I hope because we went to the first theater we did. It was the Wellmont in New Jersey and we went beforehand and I'm sitting, I'm standing on our stage. I'm like, this place is huge. Yeah. Like this is scary because like, and you look at every seat and you go, yeah, and I'm like, that's a person. there's no way like this is happening so I

remember thinking I Mean, I hope we sell this out sure but like it's a lot of seats And then it sells out like very quickly and I'm like, holy shit Okay, like I just had to get into this frame of mind. I'm like, alright I gotta like be this person now and that's you know, like, you know Probably I probably had the opposite of in that where where you're like, are we going to sell out? And they're like, no, no, we are not. Cool. But there is a thing of like, um, there's an excitement of, all right, people want to see it. Now what are we giving them? Now how are we going to give them something where they go like, I like

that and I want to come back. Yeah, and I very much like delayed doing live shows for a long time because I wanted to get to a point where I felt like I could actually put on a performance that would be worth people like coming to. Yeah, and that's gonna show. That's gonna show, because there's a lot of people that don't think that, and then they just do shows and people go, what the fuck did I just go see?

Exactly, and like that's like my big, because like I would consider myself like very self aware in that regard of like, I do not think that I, like, this is insane. What's happening. You know, like this is not normal. I know that. People like knowing that. Yeah. Like knowing that you're like, it's so crazy cause we're talking about having this confidence of like,

I belong here. I should be doing this. But at the same time, it's so oxymoronic cause you're like, at the same time, you're like, this is nuts, dude. Like I say this to comics all the time. I'm like, dude, we're getting paid for stuff that would get me fired at every other job. Just talking shit, being lazy, getting high, showing up late. And they're like, what are you doing? And you're like, I don't know. But in comedy, they're like, you're a real pro. And you're like, I had no idea. Like that guy code, when I showed up and was hung over and was like, I want to go smoke a cigarette. I ever they're like, you're a real pro. And you're like, I had no idea. Like that guy code, when I showed up, it was hungover.

I was like, I want to go smoke a cigarette ever. They're like, yeah. They were like, this is normal. It's great. That gets up, smokes a cigarette. Threw a coffee in her face. It was awesome. I fucking tripped a PA.

But I was like, standing there. And then I realized, oh, the screen test. See, here's what I found out about myself. I'm horrible at auditioning, but I found out if you put me in the situation, I can adapt faster. I don't audition well, but I perform well. So it's like, I don't do practice well,

but you put me in the game, I'll play fine. So when they sat me down for the screen test at GuyCode, I was like, oh, I gotta make Andy Stuckey laugh from Stuckey and Murray's fucking great. What do you want to talk about? And then it felt like we were just podcasting and just joking around and then they're like, that was great.

We're gonna have you on the whole season. And you're like, oh fuck, all right. But when they had me in that boardroom, I was like, girls, you better chill out. Like, I know. There's footage somewhere of me, of my guy code. I would love that footage. I bet you could find it. I bet it's fucking horrible. Like, I know. There's footage somewhere of me, of my guy code. I would love that footage. I bet you could find it.

I bet it's fucking horrible. I bet you could. I bet I wouldn't even be able to watch it. I'd be like, no. Dude, he found. I'd get two seconds to like, no. He found GuyCourt. He wouldn't found it.

You found it? He ripped it. He ripped it. Dude, he just, I'm on the road this weekend in Nashville. He found it. You hacked somebody? What are you talking about? Dude, I'm telling you right now,

I was on the road in Nashville and he just sends me a screen grab. He goes, found GuyCourt and I'm ripping it. And I'm like, please don't, please don't. You are you talking about? I'm telling you right now. I was on the road in Nashville and he just sends me a screen grab. He goes found guy corner. I'm ripping it and I'm like, please don't please don't. You know what that is? That's like in one of those horror movies where someone finds like a, an Egyptian cough, you know, like a car, car sarcophagus. And they're like, don't open that. And they're like, I'm going to open it. And then it's like, and then, and then the mummy's here and now we've got to worry about the mummy. So when you, when you auditioned for Guy Code you didn't

get it but then did they call you? No they didn't they didn't call me so like uh they may have let me know that I didn't get it or something probably not though but years later I got an email from one of the casting directors for Guy Court and she was like hey you know I guess my name was on someone's desk or something and she had reached out and was like, do you have anything that could fit for this show? It's like Guy court. So if someone's breaking code, then we're going to bring them to court and like do that whole thing. And I was like, OK, like it's like the Hague,

except for dude stuff literally and then I literally I like I fucking the episode was there was a friend of mine that would just send pictures of his balls and dick in our group chats sick so I was like dude crossing a line and like then it was just so funny because they're like okay we need visual evidence really so I had to go get and I had to tell you have to ask your boy you're like or I had to I had to do that I was being honest if he sends it to you unprompted do you yeah well you do you're like you send me your balls and I told you not to yeah now, Alyssa at MTV is gonna-

Literally, and the craziest part is like he, I mean to his credit, he came on the show too to be like, yeah I'm sending my boys my dick. It's like bro. But I had to have him take pictures and then blur it out. Like so that I could send them as like evidence. Cause I'm like- So you were the plaintiff.

Yes. And your boy was the defendant. Yeah. Do you remember who represented you in Guy court do you remember who it was I wonder no but I know that Chris represented my friend Chrissy D represented your yeah I know that's definitely represent your friend yeah it's so funny because you would as someone that was on the show who was the black dude with the glasses? Chico Bean. Might have been Chico. There was Chico, Little Duval.

It wasn't Duval. Jordan Carlos? It might have been Jordan. It was Jordan Carlos. It was Jordan Carlos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so they, when you were a lawyer,

they would just like, you would show up for a day of filming, and they'd go like, Gabris and Duval are doing this, Soder and Charlemagne. And then like, it was like being a public defender. You would like show up signed a case. I swear to God, they're just like till day of day of, and then you'd go in and you would meet the person you were working with. And then they would go and be like,

all right, my boy shows me his balls and he found one because they came in and they were like, we got machine gun Kelly or machine gun. Kelly wants to do one. Like he wants to, his boy wants to bring him to guy court. Okay. And Pete, which is crazy. Cause him and Pete are friends. Now. Pete was like, I love machine gun calling. He was like, like, he was like, I want to do the case or whatever. And they're like, shoulder you're on it. And I was like, yeah, I was like smoking a cigarette. I was like, I want it.

I had two already. And it was, he found it. He was like, you know, Mike was telling me, Pimp was telling me, he was like, dude, you did not want to be there. And I was like, no, you can actively see me being like, what? Cause it just, it really felt like a public defender. You know, how many did you guys film every day? They filmed about, it really felt like a public defender. You know what I mean? Did you guys film every day?

They filmed about, they would film all day. They filmed a week for a whole season. And I think they would do, I wanna say three cases in a day. Yeah. And then they would break down in between the second and third one for lunch. But they were like, dude, the audience was so young and I was so out of touch.

Yeah. That I bombed on a couple cases. I don't even remember how it went, really. I just thought it was funny that I can't believe this is making it outside of our group chat. Yeah, that you're like, my boy's balls. Then we had a witness who was my other friend. Oh, really? Who came in too.

He was there for a second. And it was funny because Donnell Rawls was shitting on on him too because he has like his eyebrows down and shit. That's funny yeah it was it was Judge Donnell Rawlings yeah Melanie Iglesias was the bailiff right and then every time they would switch out guy code cast members oh yeah that was the I was with oh it was Damien Dam Damien Lemon was the one that was representing Machine Gun Kelly and I was representing his boy. But dude, I got a haircut that was way too short. And so I just looked like a fucking asshole. I just looked, dude, you could, you could see me. I was not having it. And his boy was like, it was almost the same thing as your case, except machine gun Kelly was showing sex tapes to his friends and they didn't

want to watch it. And I was like, yeah, that's a disgusting, but it's funny. Cause I was like, when you having to, when you're doing an MTV two show and you have adult, like I'm sober now, I'm like thinking like, but you have to, but you have to act like you're young. It felt so disingenuous to be like, and I'm trying to use the phrases that are in right now. I'm like, but you have to, but you have to act like you're young. It felt so disingenuous to be like, and I'm trying to use the phrases that are in right now. I'm like, this shit's trill. I'm like, I don't even know what that means. I'm like using shit that I don't even know what it means. And I'm like, I felt like I was in another country trying to be a lawyer.

Like that's how I felt where I was like, I don't even know. I don't know how you guys fuck a talk here. But when you, did your, did your friend ever regret you doing that or was he like, I don't even know. I don't know how you guys fucking talk here. That's funny. But when you, did your friend ever regret you doing that? Or was he like, oh, this is sick. We're going to be on MTV. No, no, no. He was, I mean, I asked him before we fucking did it. Like, I was just like, yo, like I have,

they asked me to come up with something. Like, this is what I came up with. Like, is that cool? And we were like young enough that no one's thinking like, Oh, this is forever. My future employer. We were just like, what? MTV? And we were like young enough that no one's thinking like, oh, this is forever. My future employer, we were just like, what? MTV, let's fucking do it. Dude, I wish that attitude lasted until you're like 50s,

because you hit your 30s and you're kind of like, well, I don't know what's the downside. Yeah. And you immediately start thinking about that. You're like, well, I don't know how this is going to affect me financially for the rest of my. Well, what will the third quarter this year look like? And you're like, I don't know how this is going to affect me financially for the rest of my. Well, what will the third quarter this year look like? And you're like, I don't even talk like that because I really, I went from being

like season three of Guy Code, like showing up, hung over or like, dude, I took the editors out and we just got bombed one time because we were they were all getting off. We were filming Guy Code and they were finishing at the same time we were. And they're like, do you wanna go get a beer? And I was like, better, let's go get fucked up. And we just went to this bar right by the hook. Let's go to 100 beers, how's that? I was like, how about we just drink a half a bottle

of Jameson and they were like, this guy's a lot. And I remember like getting on the subway drunk, being like, they're gonna edit me to look like a super, and they did, I did great edits. Shout out to that editing team, they were so cool. After we got blackout. They're like, I'm gonna make Dan look good Yeah, I like that guy. Yes, but then season four I came back And I had quit drinking and it was like I felt like I was the parent Like they were like is it breaking guy code if you stretch at the gym and I'm like

What kind of homophobic shit is that? And I was like saying stuff like that. Stretching is actually very important I swear to God Joe. That's exactly my energy. Yeah, and you know what you should have vegetables turning around to the audience Does anyone understand how important stretching is you understand your hamstring can and will snap? You're young now, so you're probably like fine, but you wait. Call me at 31 when you got a drinking problem. I'm like just pushing everything I'm going through

onto them. And next thing you wake up and your shit looks like mulch. What the fuck? Your parents will never talk to you again. Trust me. Okay. Please mom. I'm like playing to the camera.

Let me see my daughter there. But when you do guy code, I mean, you were getting big on YouTube as this was happening. This was like coinciding, right? Yes, it was like a progressive during that time. What was the weirder one, someone going, I saw you on MTV too, or being like, I'm subscribed to your YouTube.

That never happened. No one was ever like, oh, how actually, you know what happened recently? Recently, I think like within the last like four years, Snapchat like apparently has like a discover page, like a similar. Sure, kind of like what they do with like Instagram. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but they have like shows

or something like that. So like MTV has like a, or channels I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like MTV has one and like fucking daily mail and whatever. And one of them was me really from that, from guy court. Yeah. And it was like, do you think someone knew you were big on YouTube? So they go, you know what, we should put this on our Snapchat. Like I found, maybe, but it was guy. This was years after. So like,

I thought this was already, I haven't even thought about it. And then someone sent it to me, and it was like me, I have a buzz cut. Like I'm just like completely shaved and like 120 pounds. And you see that and you go, what the fuck is that? I'm like, what? And I was like, where is that? They're like Snapchat.

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You wrote the whole, she wrote the whole hour. 1.5 million views baby! You know how many treats treats about this dog. You know, as we get older and you, and you kind of lose touch with the times, you understand why networks are so out of touch because they're like, is this big? Can we do this? Because comedy central had a pilot with Michelle Wolf and I, and they were like, we filmed it. We filmed three 10 minute episodes that were supposed to go on YouTube.

And they're like, no, it's Snapchat. And we're like, what? And they're like, edit these 10 minute episodes to five minutes, and we're going to put them on Snapchat. And we're like, you're going to kill us. Yeah. And it did. It just killed it.

It killed all the momentum the project had. And we were like, because one guy goes, Snapchat's in right now. I remember, because I used to work at, do you remember Elite Daily? Yeah. So I worked there. I was like an editor and producer there and completely fell ass backwards into that by the way. Were they just like, good videos, you wanna work here?

Basically, there was no one on the video team. It was one camera guy and then one guy, Tyler Gilden, who is his name, he also was doing standup at the time and he was the producer. And then I came in because they were like gonna pay me like 150 bucks to be in a video. And I was like, yeah.

And then they were like, oh, do you wanna like work here like part-time, be a part of the video team? Like you can write scripts and do whatever. I was like, yeah. Like, cause at that time, like I wasn't really making a lot of money doing the YouTube stuff. I had like an audience, but I couldn't really, there wasn't enough money in it.

So I couldn't like live. So I was like, yeah. And then eventually that turned to a full-time job. I worked there for like almost three years. Really? Yeah. It was cool. But the reason why I brought that up is because I remember there being a point where like near the end of like my time working there, where there was such a focus on vertical video and like people were trying to make full-blown movies that lived on Snapchat or on, you know, whatever. And there was such a focus on vertical video and like people were trying to make full blown movies that lived on Snapchat or on you know, whatever. And there was that one fucking platform that I don't even remember the name of it

but it was like they had all of these vertical video like projects and they would put all these like Vine stars in them. Quibi? Quibi. Maybe it was that. I think you're right. It was something like that.

It was Quibi, it was absolutely Quibi because Quibi came in, Qu came in this the stand up world and they were going like they had crazy money. They had like startup money. Yeah. And they were like throwing it around and they're like, do you want to do a show? And people were like, yeah, where's it going to live? And they're like on quibi. And then a year later they're like we're shuddering plan. There were so many people I knew that got like deals where they were like, I'm getting a show on Quibi.

And like six people would say it where you go, guys, you realize this isn't going to happen, right? They have hemorrhaged money. They were so big on that for some reason. Yeah, they were really big on like, we're going to make movies. We're going to make TV shows, but it's all going to be specifically vertical for the phone online. Which I don't even like that.

No, I would rather watch something. Listen, if I'm watching something on Netflix and I have to go on a plane and watch it on my phone, I'll deal with it. But I'm not going- Don't turn that bitch. Turn that bitch to the side. I don't wanna watch vertically.

Watching vertically, you're like, unless you're on the subway and you're going quick or something or on a bus, what are you doing? You flip it to the side to enjoy it. Anything over a minute, I'm fucking sideways. Yeah, I'm sideways on it. Anything I eat, like if I'm eating lunch somewhere and I want to watch something on YouTube, I go sideways.

Who goes vertical? You prop it up against a little fucking. That's like people who only have missionary sex. Yeah. They're like, I'm sticking vertical. And you're like, you fucking dork. It works for me all the time. I'm sticking with it.

I want it A to B to C. Fucking don't give me anything different. Doggy's gay. Yeah. Have you noticed now that YouTube, because you know, like you were saying, you were at the beginning of it where there wasn't a way to monetize it.

There wasn't, you were just basically doing it to do it. Yeah. And now it has became, I would say, more popular than cable. I would give a lot of credit to people that stuck with it and made it, you know, like I used to be like, when Schultz was like, I'm putting clips up on YouTube,

I'd be like, what the fuck are you doing? And then now it's like, we just put out a special on YouTube and I was like, I was wrong. Like I'm coming back being like, I was so fucking wrong to not have been doing this earlier. I'm kind of like the opposite of you. I came way too late being like, Comedy Central will bail me out.

And Comedy Central's like, we don't exist anymore. And you're like, fuck. But yeah, it's funny because when I was making the videos on YouTube and stuff, there was a podcast I used to do with this female comedian. Her name is Kate Wolf. And- I know Kate Wolf. Yeah, so I used to do with this female comedian. Her name is Kate Wolf and I know Kate Wolf. Yeah. So I used to do a podcast with her. She was the first one to like introduce me to podcasting. She was like, Oh,

you want to start a podcast? I was like, don't know what that is. Radio where we're not in a studio. I don't even know what the fuck that means. But then I remember like hearing my voice on a microphone for the first time, we're wearing headphones. I'm like, this is awesome. Yeah. So I was like, yes, let's do more of that. I'm like, this is awesome. Yeah. So I was like, yes, let's do more of that. I'm narcissistic. That's so funny. I have to think that I'm interesting.

Let's do it. That's so funny because that's the exact feeling I had when I did college radio. Like I had to join a radio station at college, but then the first time I went on air, I was like, oh, this is the shit. Yeah, this is awesome. I'm going to be a silly, silly boy on this.

I think I'm going to turn a whole career out of this. And then I just jumped into radio, because I did radio before I did standup because that was the way you got into it was because you were like, well, actually it wasn't really the way you got into it is more for me. Like, Oh, well, if I do this as a job, if this is my fail safe, if this is like where I land, then I'm fine. This is a cool job. Yeah. But like podcasting came around. I did radio from

02 to 09, right? And then I got fired from K-Rock here in New York. And I was like, well, radio's done. And then like two years later, everyone's like, if I get fired, it's over. Well, I got fired and I was like, I'm just sick of this. I'm not going. Because they were like to stay in radio, especially if work to the rock station if you were in New York and you got fired Like they turn they flip the whole station. So everyone got fired I would have had to have moved to like Minneapolis or like New Orleans and done like rock But I was doing stand-up at the same time Yeah, so I was like, I'm gonna stay and then someone was like, you know, this thing called podcasting is getting big and I was like

Oh, you mean the thing that I have all this classical training in? So when people are like, do you want to podcast? I'm like, you mean radio? And that's what it felt like to me. I was like, I got really lucky that it kind of cyclically like came back and it was like, Oh yeah, people are just, this is radio. Like these mics, these were the mics that we had at serious and shit. And you're like, yeah, I know what, I know what this is. So that's crazy that she's like, do you want to shit. And you're like, yeah, I know what this is. So that's crazy that she's like, do you want a podcast?

And you're like, I don't know what the fuck that is. I have no idea what that is. But that was like my first introduction to meeting a lot of standup comedians. And a lot of them, first of all, I don't want to say the same thing to be like, dude, before I met you, definitely hated you. Really?

Not hated you, but I thought you were gonna be a fucking douchebag. And I was like, that's fair. Why? Because of YouTube? I don't know. I think it's because of that because I'm and honestly rightfully so because a lot of people who are in the space because I never really fucked with anybody who did like YouTube or anything like that I like tried but then I was like this doesn't really you know

I'm from here like no one gives a fuck and I honestly don't give much of a shit either especially then about like who you've become or whatever. Sure. Like no one fucking cares. That's why New York is New York. That's why I love it. Yeah. So, so. New York is like, oh yeah, you got your YouTubes.

Yeah. All right. My dad will call me every few months and be like, you still making money from that thing? I'm like, dad. Dude, I'm doing pretty well. My dad now, I'm not kidding. This is a real thing. Two days ago, he is hounding me because he sent me a check for my birthday for $200

and I haven't put it in the bank. And he's like, Joe, I gotta figure out how much money I had just fucking put it in. I'm like, stop sending me money. You go, dad, I'm doing all right. And he goes, nah, nah, nah, you're on a live tour. Like we're selling out shows dad, keep your 200. We're doing theaters.

He goes, nah, you know what? Go get yourself something nice. And you go, dad, we sold out every show we did. We're doing fine. And he's just like, all right, yeah. I'm like, dad, Jesus. There's nothing funnier than having a family with zero ties to entertainment

and getting into the entertainment business and watching them try to figure it out. Even better than that too, is I come from a very loud family. So like a lot of people, when I started making a name for myself, were like, what, him? Cause like, you don't even know him there.

That's so funny. These people. They go, no, no, no, no, he's not funny. He's fine. One time my uncle pulled me aside at a wedding and this was after I had like crossed like a million subscribers on YouTube. She's crazy. It was like, it was great.

Like everything was going well and he pulls me to the side and he's like, I'm sweating off the dance floor. He's like, come here, pulls me outside. He's like, here's what you got to do. Right? The best. And he's like, you got to go to NYU film school. Yeah.

And then he's like, and listen, you got people that could help you write. You got me. You got your father. I'm going, wait a minute. One, I've never seen my dad write a lower case letter in my life. And he could barely speak English.

And he was born here. I don't want anyone to think that. That's so fucking funny. I'm Irish and Italian. The guy should know how to speak English, he can't. So like he's, he's the advice that you get from people. Cause like they're the funny guys. You know what I mean? He goes to a degree from Tish and then literally he was just like, you gotta go and then you can start getting into movies. Don't be dumb.

Don't just stay where you're doing now. Start doing this. I'm like, they have no foresight to when I first started doing stand up. Like you drive a truck. Yeah. Why are you giving me this information? When I would, cause you know, I moved here and my family's all in Colorado. And so I would go back and I'd be at like a family

Christmas party and I'd been maybe doing stand up at this point, less than five years. And so they're like, they pulled me aside and they're like, you thought about getting on SNL and you're like, Oh, yeah. Have I thought about it? Like, like, it's a, like it's a place to go drop an application off at you guys hiring. Uh, kind of dude, I'm dropping a gem on you. You know, you should do SNL. I remember exactly. I'm not going to say which family member I was.

It was an aunt, uh, but it was at a Christmas party. And I was like going for the food, and she's like, have you tried going on SNL? And you're like. What are you saying? You stop the search for food, and you go, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah, I think I'll be all right. You should host the Grammys.

Okay, I'll just do it then. You thought about doing an HBO special, and you're like, you know what, I didn't even think of that. HBO's blowing up right now, you should really think I'm gonna go like oh shit Thank you. I didn't even think of going that route crazy And then what's funny is when you do like I did I auditioned and screen tested for SNL and I didn't get it And so then you say that at the next Christmas party where you go actually auditioning They look at you like a chump they go like ah you didn't get it and you're like you know

how hard it is to get to the fun you know how far does it get to the final five and an audition I screen-tested I went that I went to 8h I was at home base and they're like sitting there they go hey chump they don't even give you they give you nothing well I'm sure you'll land on your feet I watched your I watched your Conan and you go, what is this? Yeah. What is this? I watched your little jokes that you made.

All right. That's why there's a part of me that feels like we're both lucky for not being in families and entertainment because you don't want someone that actually knows because then that advice is going to be worse. Cause your dad, your uncle's advice, you laugh off, right? When he says, go to NYU, you go like, shut up. I dropped out of college a long time ago. I'm not doing that. But if you're, if your uncle was like a producer and he was like, Hey,

you might want to check this out. You'd probably be inclined to go like, all right, I'll go talk to the guy. To be fair. I also think that like, that would be advice that would be grounded in something. And not just like. Not just in pure bravado. I'm going to try and take credit for something.

You know, we're talking about confidence on stage. That's the opposite of confidence. That's the confidence where you're like, you don't want any of that. When they're like, I'll tell you what you do. I'm going to write you a movie. It's funny how out of touch like that generation is because my dad he lives in North Carolina now He'll even talk to me sometimes and be like he's like sometimes people cuz he's also he had we have the same name Sure, people see his name sometimes and they go all that sounds like the guy from and he's like, yeah

It's my son and they like whatever and he goes he's like Joe. I never say anything though And he's like, I don't he's like, you know it's my son. And they like whatever. And he goes, he's like, Joe, I never say anything though. Like what? And he's like, I don't, he's like, you know, me, you know, I, I don't know this world and I don't want to get you canceled. I was like, dad, half of the show is me talking about the stupid, like half racist things that you say. Like, what the fuck? I'm like, this is part of the-

Trust me dad, you're a subject a lot on the podcast. He's going to come to a show and he has no idea the half hour I'm building against it. Have they ever listened? Do they listen or do they like? Not really. Like sometimes he knows people that either they're children or like I guess maybe them sometimes

they watch the show or whatever. So he'll like get bits and pieces of stuff. So, but definitely if I like mention him or make a joke about him, then he like will know, like hit me up and be like, you said this, it's like, this is funny. Or like sometimes he leaves me voicemails because I can't pick up the phone

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She would watch the insta stories right of the bonfire and so she if we were talking about her She'd be like what were you talking about? Yeah, you're like and dude one year Listen, my mom watches this podcast. I know that because she has YouTube. I love you mom. This is just the truth my mom with gifts has great intentions My mom with gifts has great intentions, rarely pulls it off. The execution is where it lacks.

Fails. Yeah. A lot, a lot. So a couple of years ago, she sent me a picture and she was like, for my birthday. And she's like, I sent you a picture, I hope it gets there. And I unwrapped it before I went to the bonfire. And it was, I'm a Denver N fan. It was a Denver nuggets poster framed,

but pretty generic Denver nuggets. And so on the bonfire, an old one or like the new team. It's like an old logo, but it was framed. It wasn't even the team. It was just a logo with like effects behind it. Right. Oh man. So she sends it to me, I take a picture of it. I take the picture to work with me on my phone and I show Big J and the crew and I go, this is what my mom got me.

And I start going off about it, about like, this is the thing you see in a sports bar when you're walking to the pisser in Denver. Like this isn't like a thing. Literally. Like, what are you thinking, a birthday present? And so I'm making fun of it. So she sees the Insta story. Oh no. And in the Insta? So I'm making fun of it. So she sees the Insta story.

Oh no. And in the Insta story, I'm making fun of the photo. I'm making fun of the present. Did I get home and the next day I get a phone call and I'm like, what's my mom calling me? And she goes, if you didn't want the present, I'll just give you a check next year. And it's like that thing where you go, no, no, no, no, no.

I appreciate it. My mom's like, if you don't want the gift, I'll just send you money next time. And I go, where did you hear this? Cause I know she doesn't have serious XM. And she's like, I saw it on Instagram and then I had to go chill, chill, chill out. I was making a joke. I love you, but you have to admit. And then now she'll be like, yeah, it did suck. All right. Cause with your parents,

you don't know what they're going see or what they're gonna take in I honestly don't worry too much about that Like I mean I'd say a lot of shit like my mom tells me that my mom will see some clips So she'll like tell me like I'll go visit her and then she'll say oh I saw that and it was like very funny But if we ever bring up anything she never like brings up like oh you said this or you know So it's never really like that. It's never been a problem. Yeah. My dad has a flip phone, so I'm not really worried about saying anything. So that's gotta feel so good that you're like, I know he'll never find us. Yeah. I mean, even if he did though, it'd be funny because I would just not pick up the phone,

wait for the voicemail and play that because you feel any kind of nerves about them coming to a live show. No, my mom's already been to one. Okay. Uh, and my dad, I'm actually excited because I think I'm just going to like, tear it to him. Like, yeah, great. Yeah. Yeah. Where he'll be like, he's going to love it too. Like he's such a, he's such like a showman type of guy too. Like he'll, he'll like love it. Like I want to be like next to him being like, ah, it's my kid. He's my kid. Like if he's not, if he's gonna take, I told him about this venue that we haven't announced yet. I was like, ah, it's my kid. He's my kid. Like if he's not, if he's in the crowd. He's gonna take,

I told him about this venue that we haven't announced yet. I was like, oh, we're doing, you know, this venue. And I was like, are you gonna come to that show? And he said, his response was, yeah, of course I'm gonna come. Like it was my idea. I'm like, what? What? Like what are you talking about?

That's so fucking great. And then he's also like, listen, cause then he was like, you know, cause he used to drive the fire truck. He was a fireman. Sure. Right? So he was like, you know, I used to drive the truck, you know, so if you guys get a tour bus or something,

I was just like, dude, I love, let me tell you something. And then once we started doing theaters, he was like, fuck the tour bus. I'm thinking about getting my pilot's license. Daddy. I was like, dad, I'm not letting you fly me anywhere. That's so funny. Like you might know the pilot, my father, and he's like, Hey, don't, I'm going to be back. Hey, buckle up. He's like, don't need a bump.

It's going to be bumpy. All right. Now listen, my takeoffs not so good. My landing though, even worse. It's going to be, I'm just saying, be afraid, be afraid till we get there. I'm just saying, hold on to some, that's it. Because as someone, you know, my dad, like splits or whatever, and I sometimes think about how big of a problem he would have been if he would have stayed alive.

He would have shown up to shows in San Francisco being like, buddy, how many drinks I get? No, dad, you can't. He's like, you got drink tickets or something? And you'd be like, son of a bitch. Cause that's, that's, that's the kind of dad move that I wish I would have been able to see is him being like, Hey, by the way, uh, kind of ran into a pinch. You want to help me out a little bit? Maybe I come on tour with you.

I'm your guy. That's so fucking funny. I'm thinking about getting my pilot's licenses. Top, no. He's top tier awesome dad being like, I'm coming on this tour. Yeah, like he's funny like that. Yeah. But he's a guy's of maniac. Yeah, because this generation, I think that difference between that generation and ours,

right, is the last time there's gonna be that big of a difference in technology. Yeah. People my age having kids, We're gonna know the internet We just kind of know how to find stuff the boomer and like the older gen X's and boomers They have no idea sometimes how to find stuff for you're like they go on Facebook and they go like I saw something on Facebook But if it's not there you're like, oh you have no idea how to my dad sent me an email recently And just to you know piggyback of what you're saying he was like I got an email that someone hacked my Facebook

oh and I was like what and he's like yeah I got an email someone hacked my Facebook I said you're on Facebook and he's like no that's so good and I'm like how you getting hacked if you don't have the thing? Yeah, good cuz I will say thought it was a thing you get for being a person I think that you say if you exist you have a Facebook. It's someone has hacked mine like it's a Social Security number Someone got into my Facebook. You know, they're not government mandated. He's like, I don't know what to do about this Someone's hacking it. I'm like how many like he thinks that he's getting billions of dollars from a Saudi prince one day too probably. Dude I sent my, I read the email. I sent my grandmother, I sent my grandmother like an Amazon package or whatever for something but she was alive and she was like I've

got a, I've got, she would like, she had email but she would check it because of her like homeowners association and she, they hacked my Amazon account. And I go, well, I sent you something on Amazon, but then it even got me where I go, do you have an account? And I go click on the sender and she said nine J nine H four. And I'm like, oh, that's fake. Cause when you click on the return address and I was like, Nana, they're, they're tricking you. And she's like, Oh, this like, Nana, they're, uh, they're tricking you and she's like, Oh, this like, she was disappointed in people doing that. Why would anyone try to trick me? Oh, well that's mean. And you go, well,

I think mean is a, is a way to describe it. Oh, oh, why would you do that? Has there been anybody from your guys's neighborhood that you've seen do a one 80 cause of like fame? Have you seen anybody that was like a Dick that you've seen do a 180 because of like fame have you seen anybody that was like a dick to you that has turned around and been like you know I always fucking liked your shit you're like no you didn't honestly no like not really like a lot of the kids that I grew up with are just like kids that I know from the neighborhood maybe there are some like

high school people maybe but like even then, like I don't really, there's been no people in my life that I felt like, oh, this person wants to be my friend now. You know, not really. I was, I was like pretty cool with everybody and like I was just always had like friends in different like had like, you know, weird fucking whatever friends. And then I also played sports in high school. So like I had those friends too. And like, I don't know, there was, there was never, there was a point in time in the very beginning where I felt like people hated me just because I, I thought I was this person.

Well that's what you're doing something. So they think like who the fuck are you fucking 19 years old. So obviously that's going to happen. But I mean, dude, I remember my experience. Like everyone's been like kind of similar in certain ways. When I was in college, it got out that I was doing open mics and like, I lived with a weed dealer and we'd like go to these places and like these frat kids found out and they're like, you think you're funny? And you're like, don't please don't do this. I don't like you to begin with. I'm just here. Cause that was a joke. That's exactly it. You're like,

that's not how it works. And they're like, Oh, how does it work? And it was just like being in that like kind of frat energy where you're like, man, fuck you. And then they come out to a show years later and they're like, Hey, pretty good. But then when someone's all old and you're like, yeah, I remember you. I got a couple of those. I never forget. Like count them on a Christo shit. I'm like, I'm fucking saving this shit. I had that a lot with waiting tables in the city. Because I like when you're waiting tables in the city, everyone's trying to do something. So like, everyone's either an actor or a comic or a musician or whatever. And then you would get on, you would like start, and then, not my friends, not the people I was cool with,

but the people I kind of knew would be like, oh, they're letting you do that? And you're like, fuck you, you didn't even do your side work. Yeah, give me a break. Yeah, you're like judging them on how bad of an employee they were at the restaurant. You're like, well, of course you're not gonna make it. You didn't even fucking do the,

you didn't do your civil wear roles right. But that was always the feeling where you're like, who the fuck are you to judge me? I always think that's interesting because growing up in New York, I think you guys had a different, New Yorkers don't care what other people are doing. That's why this city, you can get so much done is because everyone's like, yeah, I've got to worry about me. I don't give a shit. Whereas like LA or another place like that,

they're like, well, what are you doing? Why are you doing that? And I, when I worked for Lee Daily, I would go out there and I've like told a story like a few times, but it was like such a clear difference. But I used to go out there with Lee Daily and there was a series that I was doing that, which was by the way, now that we're talking about it again,

a complete rip of like guy code. Really? It was just talking head shit. And it was like, I got a list of like a bunch of New York city comedians and like, they were like, Oh, pick from, pick a bunch of people from this like list. And, uh, we had like Mark Normand was in the series. Tim Dillon was in it. Oh shit.

Um, and we, we had like comedians that people like kind of know that were like in this thing before they ended up like blowing up and having like a, not because of this they didn't blow up, but you know, way later on. But trust me dude, daddy, you're catching those guys, two of my friends that you're catching at moments where we're taking whatever we can get. Where they're like, you want to come by and talk?

And you're like, yeah, I'll do that dude. Tim also like, Tim really stood out, Tim and Mark specifically, they both like really stood out to me. I also love the way that Mark Norman like writes jokes like I think it's fucking hysterical. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, you know, yeah, I love it.

Yeah, exactly. I was watching him last night at the seller and I was like, I think it is. I love his joke style. Also, yes, you can just Twitter to me is like, God damn it. Every time I read his tweets, I'm like, fuck, that's good. But then he uses that. What's crazy about Norman is I just know Norman the entire time we've both been in New York.

He used Twitter, which I think was the original reason of Twitter, which for comics, I'm going to try jokes. Right. Here's a... And you can just do a simple structure of premise, setup, punch right there in the tweet. And Norman got so good At it that I had that same feeling where you're like

Fuck that's good. I'm like, can I put a voice note in there? I do voices Part of me read some of the tweets and I'm like, I can't believe he just let that go as a tweet I would have like but then he does but he does what he does is when you go see him live You'll be like I'm over that tweet and then it'll be part of a big bit. And you're like, and you used it. Right. You know what I mean? It's like finding out someone used tools correctly when you're just like throwing them and you're like, son of a bitch. But I met Tim during that time, too.

And he said to me, I thought he was like hilarious. And then we like remained friendly like over the years. And then I remember he was the first person because at that time I was so insecure about like, should I, because now I'm meeting all of these stand up comedians. And I'm like, oh, I need to start doing, stand up and doing this.

And Tim was the first person to be like, are you gonna like start doing stand up stuff? I was like, yeah, you know, I'm thinking about like, you know, getting into and doing that. And he was like, why? Yeah. He literally was like, why? And I'm like, oh, I don't know. I just, cause everyone else was just kind of like, yeah, you know, I'm thinking about like, you know, getting into and doing that. And he was like, why? Yeah. He literally was like, why?

And I'm like, oh, I don't know. I just, cause everyone else was just kind of like, yeah, you should do it. And it's like, you know, the next step in the career and this and that. It's very Tim to go. Tim was like, you don't need to do that. He literally was like, don't do that.

He's like, people, he's like, all of us are trying to get to the point where we could just do what you're doing. Just do that. And then that's great advice. And it was, it was cool because like, that's what I felt. I was feeling pressure of being like, I just want to be involved in like the scene or whatever. And he was like,

you fuck that. Like just fucking, you know, successful go be successful. Like that's exactly. And honestly I've seen Tim do that to people and I've seen people not react to it well. I've seen him do it to other people they're like yeah Tim told me to quit and you're in your head going he was right. Yeah. You like you just want to be like Tim was fucking right to other people where he'll be like you don't want to do this what do you want to go on the road? You want to be alone all the time? Yeah. You're fine. You're fine. And you're like, dude, I love it.

I've always said, man, if you can ever get to the level where you can get a meal with Tim Dillon, it fucking rules. There's nothing better. He was in Boston. This is like last month. He was at the Wilbur. And then I was at the Wilbur the next night. But we went up a night early

because my fiance is from Boston. And so we were like, oh, we're gonna go see your family. And we were staying downtown and I texted him, I go, hey, are you around tomorrow? And he's like, yeah. And I was like, lunch? And he's like, and they just sent me a restaurant. He's like, 1230 be there.

And I showed Katie who's from Boston. And she goes, that's an unbelievable seafood place. And we show up. It's such like a restaurant snob too. Dude, it's hysterical. It's so funny. We walk in, he's in the back booth of the restaurant and we sit down and he goes, I already ordered his seafood tower and it just comes out and it's like, fuck a tower. It's like a world trade center. It's like, dude,

it was like five things and Katie's like, this is awesome. And we're just like eating and Tim goes, the problem with the entrees are, it's never as good as the appetizers. And we're just like eating and Tim goes, the problem with the entrees are, it's never as good as the appetizers. And we're just eating and we're like, dude, this is insane. It was one of the coolest experience. And then you just sit around and talk shit with him for fucking 45 minutes and you're like, this is the best.

No, he's great. I love that. I love that he told you, he's like, don't do that. Yeah. Cause you know what the thing about Tim is? He was probably in a position where he should not have told you that. No.

Cause he was coming up. Yeah, cause he was definitely not like like probably like a big comedian at all at the time. And I wasn't, I didn't even give them him this whole reason for even saying that he was just asking like we had, I think just finished the podcast and whatever. And then he was like, and he was just also familiar with what I was doing because we worked together at elite for that thing. Sure. And then he, he, you know,

he knew me through like the, not through the YouTube videos, but he like knew I was doing because we worked together at Elite for that thing. Sure. And then he knew me through like the, not through the YouTube videos, but he knew I was doing that as well. And now I'm doing the podcasting thing. And it's all like seemingly going well. So he just asked me, he was like, are you going to do standup? And I was like, yeah, maybe. And he was like, why? Like just don't do it. It was like honestly like freeing at the time too. Cause I always knew like I want to do it. Cause he lets you off the hook. Yeah. Cause it's like, I want to do it.

But like, this is this person that I respect. I think they're very funny. And like people who are at the time more successful than him are giving you opposite advice. And it's like to you, it doesn't feel like the right thing. And then when someone who you respect is just kind of like, yeah, no, why would you do that right now? Like handle this and like, you could always, it'll always be there.

Yeah, you could. So do this now. That's, that is something that happens in life that when it does happen and you, and you like, you're feeling it and then they say it and you go like, all right, well, this is true. Cause it lines up on so many different levels. But there's so many people that will ignore that. Like I started comedy in Tucson, but I wanted to move here. I wanted to live in New York. All my favorite comedians were New York comics. I was obsessed with ONA, with the documentary comedian,

but all these people that were years ahead of me in comedy were going, we're close to LA. Go to LA. And it's like that thing where you feel and you go, I just don't like LA. And they're like, no, you gotta go to LA. And there's almost a part of you that goes, all right, and then I was like, oh, fuck that,

I'm gonna go to New York and it's the best decision I ever made. So it really is, man, if you, like, people don't teach that enough of, if you have confidence in yourself, just fucking listen to that. Just listen to that voice inside your head. Now you're doing live podcasts and look at that.

Like, you know what I mean? You're doing these venues where your dad's gonna have to fly you there. My dad, he thinks that we're just taking a private jet that he's gonna fly. I almost want your dad to call you and go, I did it. Helicopter license. Honestly, I would not be fucking surprised. Sometimes he'll text me random shit. One day he was like, look at this train. It was a locomotive train, like a Harry Potter train. And I'm like, where

are you? Yeah, what do you do? The Polar Express? Then, oh, you said just a helicopter. Just reminded me he didn't text because it's a flip phone, but it was a fucking email from a phone number. Yeah, and it was a picture. It was a picture of a helicopter. It's like I'm going on a helicopter ride tonight. It was sitting in the driveway of someone's home. That's so funny. He's like, yeah, the guy's got to wheel it out of his garage.

I'm like, don't get in that. No, no, no, no, no. What are you doing? That's like an old timey. Don't even take that helicopter in the apocalypse if they have that. He literally got into a guy's helicopter that he had in his garage.

Just the guy going, you see that third garage. There's a helicopter in there Right, he goes guess what time number three a fucking helicopter. I have a helipad, but we'll get it up there. Don't worry There he goes. Well, we're gonna land it in my driveway. He's coming down a helicopter.