Soder - 28: Reverse Arrogance with Ali Siddiq | Soder Podcast | EP 28

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

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Toronto, I'm coming to the Queen Elizabeth Theater November 9th. Then Chicago, Illinois, I'm going to be at the Vic Theater December 6th. And then Milwaukee, Wisconsin, going to be at Turner Hall Ballroom December 7th. For all those tickets go to Dansoda.com. This guy said, man, why do you open like that? I'm like, like what? Like you just come out and you start talking. I said because I'm, it's a series now.

So I'm, I'm literally starting off from where I left off. Yeah. You were, you're gonna do a previously on previously on the dominant. Okay. I'm just going to, I'm so, um, you know, I start off with 10. So now, yo, I'm just aging now. Hey man. And, Hey, and okay. So when this had dominant effect three out of the four yeah and I know this is this is putting a bit much on it but it's probably my it's the most fun one that I've shot and because it was it's like you haven't seen it

yet right I haven't seen it yet no I came out I I mean, we're taking it today, it came out. It came out today, right? It came out Mother's Day. Mother's Day, okay, so it came out yesterday. So this story that I'm about to tell you just happened, but it's related to three. Yeah. So it's gonna be a lot funnier when you hear,

when you see actually, so it's a guy, my attorney, his name is Rio Harris. Okay. And Rio. It's a cool name to have as an attorney. Yeah, I'm taking Rio through a lot. Like I'm like. Well that was going to be one of my questions,

is because you talk about people in these stories and it got popular. And now I want to know who's coming back to be like, hey, Oli, you can't be talking about it. Yo, so I'm gonna just, you, I'm talking about, this is current. Yeah. This is fresh off the press.

Yeah. So read the last thing, this is today. This is from my manager. Could be a cool thing to record a FaceTime between the two of you and put it out there. No, read the thing. Got a call from Rio Harris Jr. His dad is apparently still alive.

They wanted him to copy. I'm talking about Rio in the junk. And I said, I can, I literally say in my mouth, well, I can talk about Rio, he's passed. It was like, I can talk about him now. And he's still alive? He's still alive. Like he just started coming. He's Undertaker, he's sad up. You're like, he's passed. It was like, I can talk about him now. And he's still alive. He's still alive. Like he just,

Undertaker, he sat up. You're like, we got him. You're like, the hand came through the dirt. So on the way here, I called Rio Jr. Rio was like, hey man, my dad wants to say, he wants to say, appreciate you for the shout out. He said, the VP of my company sent it to me. And it is hilarious work.

And I said, man, so I saw him, I appreciate how it was. He said, he's right here, you can tell him yourself. And I'm on the phone with Real Harris, and I'm like, yo, this is crazy. When you woke up this morning, you didn't know he was alive. No, I didn't. You had no idea.

I did not know he was alive. I was talking about another podcast. And read the thing, I go on another podcast. Are you Garvin? Yeah I love them. They're right up the street. Yeah so I'm coming out in and I'm like look at my message. I'm like we're going to have a joint. Yeah. Like apparently he's alive. I'm like oh I'm about to get sued. That's so fucking funny because that is where your mind goes, is you go, what legality?

And he's a lawyer. He defended me. You know what I love is, and you know this cause you're, I'm not, but you're a tough guy. You can fight. You're like a tough, you can handle yourself. But then you grow up and you realize the toughest motherfuckers are the ones that know law. Yeah. They're the scariest. Oh, they bend the word.

Yo, the. I'm going to see my father's an attorney is me the lot different now that I. When I was when I went to school, I went to college at Arizona, right? And you would have these rich white kids that would go like, do you know who my dad is? I always thought that was like the lamest shit until I'm older. And I go, oh, they actually were saying like, do you know who my dad is? I always thought that was like the lamest shit until I'm older and I go, oh, they actually were saying like, shut the fuck shit up.

Supiro. They're like, your mother's gonna have a hard time getting a better bank loan next time. You're like, oh fuck, I didn't know your dad was that powerful. Cause you don't realize that when you're growing up, you're always thinking about how tough the other guy is that you're face to face

with or in the neighborhood or around. Yeah. You don't realize that there's these people that are like, dude, I can bend words and fuck your shit up. You do understand. So he was cool. Yo, he was cool. Man, we having dinner in two weeks at his house.

And you thought he was dead? Yeah, and I thought he was gone. You just thought he was dead? Yeah. And I explained why I, and I thought he was gone. You just thought he was dead? Yeah, and I explained why I thought that. Because his practice was closed. The building was gone. He was like, yo, I think he passed.

And they gave me this story, but apparently he's the Undertaker. He's still here. And I'm going to have dinner with Rio Harris. The only way that could have been scarier is if you were in like your hotel and you shut a mirror and he was behind you. Oh, Rio! Oh, someone came under the door. You have been summoned. What? You got subpoena!

No, I mean, the crazy thing is like, it's funny when you are talking to someone and you don't know someone else is in the room. So you're talking to Rio Harris Jr. And then he goes, well, my dad's right here. And then you're like, oh, did you have that feeling at all? Yeah, so like, what do you mean he's right? Why you ain't leave with that? Me and my dad are sitting here, you know? Yeah.

Has there been anybody that's reached out from outside of Rio? Charles. Charles reached out? Yeah. Was anybody mad? Charles. He was? Yeah, he's mad because success is different.

Yeah. I talked to Ronel. OK. You know, I haven't seen Jeffrey, but I've seen Derek. I've seen Mike. And what's great is almost if you're watching this right now and you have not watched The Domino Effect,

you're watching this on YouTube probably pause this Go watch the domino effect and then you'll know all who these characters are and you're exactly gonna go like oh shit They're still up. They're still alive because You do an incredible job I think one man shows for me sometimes feel to one man show and yours just feels like I'm listening to you at a bar Tell a story and that's probably my favorite way of listening to any story. It's just like me and you sitting here on a couch you telling me like yeah I went through this shit and you're like oh fuck. It's always the best because it's more genuine that way and it's like on the road if I'm

I don't tell a lot of these stories, like when they, it's weird, so getting ready to shoot a special, like you've done, you have this set list of things that you're gonna say. They have become accustomed to this being the fake files. They were like, yo, this is the fake shit that he's not actually going to say. Like this is like a skeleton.

Just know that something's going to be here. It's not going to be this though. Even on the road, I don't work out the sets in long form. I work them out in pockets. Yeah, that's the best way. Like I throw five minutes here versus what I'm talking about

because I don't want people to be able to see it in totality. Oh, you're talking about you work out the domino effect in little pockets. You like a little like. Everything but two. Okay. Two you just went.

Just went. But three and four you work out. Three I would say the stories here and there and no that's what I do it small if somebody if the people who knew the domino effect three in its totality yeah where my people that was in the barbershop yeah and people that was at the my my boys shop the reggae bodega if I'm in that bodega talking and you see like two or three people gathered around, I'm doing the stories.

Like they like, yo, wait, I'm finna go get some, don't say nothing, don't, I'm finna go get something easy. Like, cause I tell stories like that. If you ever see people around me. That you're working out. I'm working the story. Like we don't, I'm trying to think white guys don't have, we need a barber shop. We need something. Cause honestly right now,

I think it's just gun ranges and that's why malls and mass places are in danger. We don't have a place to go. Like, you know, this crazy, this fucking thing happened to me, you know, I guess a bar, but once you quit drinking, you don't go back in there. I think yeah, so Me explaining comedy to some some guy. I don't have to do this with you because you understand Comedy. Yeah, so when me explaining the different levels of how a

story would be told on my end as I could come in and say all of the a story would be told on my end. I said, I could come in and say all of the language, the vulgar language, and that's not, it's not masterful to me. Yeah. Because you just using a bunch of pop shock words to get people engaged in it. But with me, it's more of,

let me tell you why at the same time that this is happening. Yeah, the jump around. So you're getting contacts. Yeah, so I gotta kind of paint the picture. It's like, what was the guy on channel eight that painted? Oh, Bob Ross. Bob Ross.

It's like Bob Ross. I love that comparison. Bob Ross is like, yo, it's just green. Yeah. And OK. Shitty Bob Ross is a tree, lake, fucking seagull, not telling you why. And then it's there. Yeah.

It's like, yo, this is beautiful. Yeah. He just splashed something, and then he left it. And he came back to it. No context. Just like, there you go. And you are you going to learn watching Bob Ross? He's like, you're not like how? Yeah. If he didn't tell you what he was doing, that show would have sucked so bad.

You would have just been like this boring, afroed white dude stinks at painting. And I don't want to watch it anymore. But that storytelling thing, you know, I think, I mean, that makes a lot of sense. When I did Ari's This Is Not Happening, he saw me do a story in Austin where I basically did what you said. I just like said it with the pop buzzwords.

Ari was like, no, no, no. You told me that story off stage. Tell it like that on stage. And it took me a while to figure out like, Oh, you got to go work it in pockets. You got to set up. Well, who is this? Who was my roommate selling weed? Why did I not get along with him? Cause he was an idiot from Long Island and explain that. Yeah. Everything has to be explained.

Yeah, you do a great job of making it look, you know, I know you said Domino effect two was just off the cuff, but Domino effect one just seemed like you just sat down like it's always my favorite thing in a documentary where someone sits down that you see them sit in the frame and then they go, we stole $7 million. Holy shit. And then you get the documentary.

That's always one of my favorite things. And that's got, Domino Effect has that feeling of it. But I'm always so interested when I know something is real, the reaction of the real people coming back and being like, has there been anyone that's been like, immediately like, fuck you? Like in a way of like, why did you tell that story?

The only, the only people I could probably get that from is probably family. Okay. Everybody else, I wouldn't even think, but family. Like, you know, it's the weird thing is, you know, my mom doesn't know that Domino Effect 2 exists. Even though my older sister was there. Yeah? Does your sister like it?

Yeah. Because you, Domino Effect 1, you explain, this is one of my favorite things, is you explain, your mom goes, your father's back around, and also just that your dad was just kind of around in town like, hey, and you're like, that's dad. And you're like, all right, hey. That's so fucking, that's so crazy to me.

Cause my dad got, went and he went, he went to California. He was like, you won't bump into me. But what your mom said, you can live with your dad. I've never related, I think anybody who grew up with divorced parents understands, or parents that are apart, are apart you're like yeah you want to live with dad because it's fun yeah and your sister was like no no and to this day she was like yeah dead on yeah I made the right decision. You went through that nonsense, not me. So my sister, I needed her there, you know, for that.

Because I knew that I was getting ready to tell this part of the story. Because I can't continue this story without saying what made me different. Like this is a huge chunk of what made me different was losing my little sister. And I know she was gonna have a reaction to it. Us knowing the story,

she's not hearing the story the first time. Yeah, she lived it. She's lived it, but this is her first time seeing it, hearing it from my point of view. Sure. So you guys never really talked about it? Never talked about it. That's why in the thing I explained, we never talked about it. And we never talked until she shot the thing.

Like she's finding out how I felt and I'm finding out how she felt during the shooting of the special. That is it. So it was. Is that how intense is this was a very emotional Saturday? This is this was we was that it down tenses. This was a very emotional Saturday this is this was we was up and down and She didn't come to show too Really she was there for the first one Did that affect the show to that effect show to it all did you feel like?

Was that it was there any part of your brain that was thinking about it? We we did you know how you cut we do a special you shoot twice take the you know you Frankenstein it I think it was it was half and half okay like two and the second the first you haven't it's more 80, 20 towards another one. This was 50, 50 because I didn't have the same, yeah, I wasn't the same on two. I didn't get into it till later. I was still on the thing with my sister.

And then my sister left. And then my sister left. And because my sister left, I knew I was getting ready to do this part again, and I didn't have the crutch or the umbrella, the shield that I would have needed to get through it if it would have just went all the way back, if I couldn't have turned. Because the turn back if I couldn't have turned because the turn back into funny wasn't written.

It was said on the first show. Okay. So me doing the story about pops cooking. Yeah. That was a story that wasn't on the list, but it popped into my head. Yeah. You just remembered it in the moment. And I was like, yo, what actually made me laugh?

Cause I was such an aggressive person at the time. And at that time I knew the only thing I could remember laughing about was him cooking that dope in the Speedos. Like it just, I'm like, what is he doing? Well, it's a visual that when it comes in your head, you're like, did that fucking, how did I even let that happen in real life without being like, what the fuck?

And he, this thing was, Hey man, don't worry about what the chef got on. Do you like the fire? Yeah, man, that is, that is fucking wild. That is wild. But it is a thing where, I mean, you don't really know the reaction when you tell, it's one of the things I love about your comedy, when you tell stories that are real about stuff

that involve real people in your life, you can't control how they feel about what you talk about. And that is something that you really don't know until you go through it. I know who's gotten mad at me. It wasn't even about a domino failure, it was about a true story that happened to me,

how I dislocated my shoulder. This comedian, Chris Atkins, he, man, you keep telling that story, but you grabbed me in a fight and I dislocated my shoulder. What else do you want me to say if I'm telling this story? Yeah. Okay, my shoulder got dislocated, that's it. Good night.

What else you, what else my mother was saying? Yeah. His people was getting mad about it. Why he. What else you, what else my mother was saying? His people was getting mad about it. Why he talking about you like that? He's actually, I'm actually telling the story. He grabbed me. Yeah. He didn't grow up with me.

He's not a, I'm trying to explain when somebody's fighting, you don't grab your friend. You grab one of the other people. Don't grab your friend. That is really funny. Yo, but you but he grabbed my shoulder and I just felt my whole, everything came out. I'm like, yo, this is crazy. Why can I punch with his arm no more?

Like. You cut that noodle arm? Noodle arm. And it's like, and so Chris got mad, but when it comes to like, it's stories that I don't tell cause I know it's, it's touching the site with my mom.

She doesn't know about domino effect too. Cause I know she can't handle it. You knew she would get upset. Oh, not upset, but it would be just, she would just be soft. Like that's a very, yeah, she lost her child. Yeah. So that's, it's deeper than me losing my sister. But then what's the crazy thing? So that's a it's deeper than me lose muscle

But in what's the crazy thing she would probably wonder? Why didn't you tell? the story about yours, so domino effect is Too is heavy, but it could have been heavier sure because four months later. I Lose my son. Yeah, damn. These nine months, right? Yeah.

So I lose Terrick and how I find out is the most brutal thing of all time. My boy is talking to this girl and she doesn't really cut for me. And she says out her face, that's why your son did. So you gotta understand, this is my first time hearing this. You didn't even know?

I had no earthly idea. Talk about getting ear holed. I mean, that is a shot from the side. And they didn't bury them in everything. They did the whole and didn't even tell it. And I have no idea. What do you do in that situation? Like you just, do you just like eat it like a punch and just keep going? What? And then you call. Yeah. Yo, yo, what's going on? And you get no type of real ass answer. Like, you don't know.

You like, what? And you find out bits and pieces in the street from the person's friend. So then you find out years later from the very close friend, yo, you know your son would have still been alive if she would have just called you. But she was on some proud girl shit and didn't call.

And everybody never blames you because we know that you didn't know. We know for facts that and didn't call. And everybody never blames you because we know that you didn't know. We know for facts that you didn't know. I'm in the streets hustling. I am a page away. Like yo, I don't really know what's happening. You know what I'm saying? And it's like you pregnant, I hear you pregnant, cool.

You say it's mine, cool. I'm like, yo, whatever you need, whatever you need. But you trying to be pregnant off on your own. Yeah. Then I'm like, yo, whatever you need. Then I hear the baby is born, cool. I'm trying to see the baby. I'm constantly pressing, trying to see him.

Yeah. I never get a chance to touch him. He passed within nine months. I have a picture of him. And that is it. I've been to his grave site. Yeah. And that is it.

And that was the first time you got to meet him. Yeah. Was that his grave site? And I'm talking about not then. I'm talking about not then. I'm talking about not then I'm talking about going to prison. Yeah. Coming home. Years and years go by, me finally running into you. Where is my son buried?

Whoa. I mean, that is fucking heavy. That's also a thing when you call to find out what happened, what's the, and she's not telling you the answer. She's just kind of being like, oh, well this happened, this happened. There's no real understanding, like I don't, what are you talking about? Like what's, start from the beginning.

Yeah. You giving me flash card shit. Yeah, yeah. With no answer on the beginning. Yeah. You giving me flash card shit. Yeah. With no answer on the back. You know what I'm saying? It's a question. Yeah. It's like, well what happened?

And you're like, and then? Yeah. You want them to be good storytellers. Like yo, you don't want to elaborate a little bit more? You're like trying to teach her how to tell a story. Right now you're like. I need the context. I need a damn. So it's like you can hide behind the excuse of you so angry.

You were so hurt behind your sister. You were such a monster. Everybody just kind of stayed away from you. You can hide behind that. Sure. And I can understand that. But I can't understand at the same time. Well, no, I mean, this is my son. You're giving an exceptional amount of empathy

on trying to understand the perspective that she's coming from of why you weren't told, why you get to see him, why you weren't told about it, all this stuff. But also you need your own answers of like, well what the fuck happened? There also is that thought of when you call her, I almost feel for whoever's in the room with her, because they're probably just having a normal conversation where they're like, well yeah, Tuesday we're gonna, huh?

And he's like, I'm getting a call, and you're like, all right, well, I should probably go. You want to excuse yourself. And when you're the third party in that situation, you're like, fuck, yeah, all right, I'm gonna let you talk about that. Cause that's, I mean, that is massively heavy. Yeah, and you know, I'm a kid.

Yeah. You don't realize I'm just 18. I mean, that is, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I went to prison four days after I turned 19. So I'm filled with a lot of things going in because I'm going through so much. Yeah.

And you're going through 45 years worth of shit in, you're condensed to 19 years, what could be someone's whole life amount of shit you know what I mean so that could have been that could have been in Domino effect too yes it could have been done because it's in the age and it's in the timeline do you ever feel like they'll come a time where you kind of because you work up this muscle of domino effect of telling all these stories that you'll be able to get to that in a way where you're like, all right, I can make that funny. I think I can. Yeah, I do, because I'm still working and I'm glad you asked that question

because when I say this to people, they think that it's, I don't know what reverse arrogance is. I don't know, I think every comic has it though. I think every comic worth his salt has like a little bit of reverse arrogance where you go, I don't think I'm shit, but I can do that. You know? Like I think like, especially talking about like hard stuff, I think is, that's like a trick about being funny is you go like, well, I think that's a trick about being funny.

As you go, well, I can sweeten. You can make shit, you can make a pile of shit sweet in a way that a lot, and I'm not saying, listen, there's a lot harder jobs, I get all that, but I'm just saying the one thing about comedy that I like is for people that I identify with their sense of humor, it comes from a self-defense mechanism. It comes from like shit being shoveled on you and you going like, this is hilarious. So those are the people I love the most in comedy.

So you probably going to love four. Yeah. I mean, cause four, three is one thing. Yeah. Three is a perfect setup for four. Four is domino effect. Ending after four. Do you feel like it's ending at the four? You got that? You got that like perfect. It's in that the four in not in structure, but in name. Yeah. Cause I'm, I'm, I'm taking a break from, okay, so that's a series. I'm taking a break from, I guess, doing a series of specials. And that sounds very fucking arrogant. No, but it's one long story. And to do it correctly, you have to break it up.

You have to break it up. Because sometimes when you don't, it trails into other stuff and you're kinda like, well, I wish I would've just, you're doing it right. Because sometimes it can trail and you're like, I wish I would have just kept it concisely in this one fucking part and then you don't have to talk about it again.

So it is now to get off of the domino effect to do My Two Sons and to do I'm Not Handy, to do those two specials and then come back to In the Shadows. In the Shadows will probably be back to the series. It'll be the three part of the series because it gets from how I actually started standup. I know I've had this question asked a lot but four gives a glimpse yeah and then in the shadows is the actual start because now I'm a I have

this question to do stand up I'm just now getting out and I need things to start this career that I have no idea how to actually do it. Well, what's crazy is because selling dope, your dad was doing it. So there's kind of this like understanding of like, even, you know, in Domino effect one, you say, you know, there's a box upstairs, someone's gonna knock at the back.

And there's kind of that understanding the way a family business is. Where you're just kind of like, you do this, you do that. Like a carpenter's son box upstairs, someone's gonna knock at the back and there's kind of that understanding the way a family business is. Where you're just kind of like, you do this, you do that. Like a carpenter's son would go, here's how you hammer nails. You nail it into this, you drive it into this plank. Stand up, you just start and it's like, so I just go? You just go and then people tell you

that you're not supposed to do something as you're doing it. Like, yo, so, so, hey, man, when you come on stage, you might want to say your name. Eh. You, I thought you said it. But, dude. Big Jay and I were talking about this because sometimes you see comics that are like 10 or 15 years

in and they do some stuff where you're like, someone should have told you to do that in the first two years. Like an establishing premise of like, am I am this and I come from this and I do this you know that's like first three years of comedy but some people don't know that cuz no one gets told that in that and now a days with this oh I could just do it in front of a camera this that's starting going to say hey um no yeah but there and it is cuz, I mean, in a way I don't want to call you the Bernard Hopkins of comedy,

but the way that Bernard Hopkins started boxing in prison and came out and is arguably the greatest middleweight of all time. You can say like, well how the fuck does he, he's like, Oh, I'm good at this boxing in prison. I'll just go do this out there. And that's how a lot of people are like, you know, you listen to Bill Burr, you listen to a lot of people go like, I was funny on this construction site, and they're like, you should go try it.

And you're like, oh shit, all right. I was funny when I worked at a cannery in Alaska, I was making these guys laugh. And then I was like, oh, maybe I'll just do standup. I liked standup, but I was like, maybe I'll do it. And then this weekend in Providence, I get a DM from my old roommate in Alaska I haven't talked to him 26 years or like it would 20 years and he's like dude I can't believe you're doing stand-up and you're like right and like connects it where you're like

dang fucking you were one of the guys I was making laughs that I was like this hard-nosed dude can laugh but yeah that is an interesting thing because you the greatest thing of all times is all comics went back to when they first you just did a sketch this is this is the moment yeah the movie of hey cannery yeah alaska i mean just being the funny guy did it switch it to prison this episode is sponsored by better help. Listen, this thing I'm holding a cell phone causes a lot of stress and anxiety on top

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and I know he's right. And I know he's right. And I know he's right because they just don't go into it. They're just like, I don't know, man, I got a fucking union card. I'm going to hang doors. I disagree. Really? I disagree because I've let me tell you why. You know why I disagree.

All right. So let's take those three guys. Yeah. And we put we take those three guys off the construction site sure and put them in them in a comedy club Well, nobody knows them sure That she's saying the context real Fast cuz I I used to do this thing Oh, cuz I hate the fact that anybody think that we can they can do we do

Just because you see a butcher with a sharp ass knife, you never say, oh, you could be a surgeon. It's not this fucking same. It is not the same. So you take these guys, because people are like, oh, I can do what you do. Come on, cool. What you do, you cut out cool.

It's a, every barber thinks it's a comic. Like every comic thinks, this is crazy. Do you realize that every comic has a desire to be? some type of music artist and single one and it's very few Very very few that is no it's not one comic that can rap not one I'll give that joke joke Claren cool make a record though. Yeah, I want you to make a record don't freestyle make an album

Yeah, 12 12 track That shit is difficult I remember Shaq you playing basketball and you tried it. Do you want me to pass? the past. No! What do you want me to do? Slam! What's up, Doc? Can we rock? Deon! Deon did a whole... Say man, Deon was horrible. Yeah. I can't wait to go and see Deon somewhere. I'm like, yo, you are horrible. You... I'm talking about... You know, his son just put out a song. Man, yo, Deon... Shadua just put out a song. It's probably horrible too. It's probably worse than his father's song. I'm from Colorado. I'm a bus man. It's probably horrible too. It's probably worse than his father's song. I'm from Colorado, I'm a Bucks fan.

It's not good. You know what people may think they can do it? I'm going to say this, I'm going to put it on record. Eddie Murphy's party all the time was not good, people. I don't give a damn that Rick James was in it. It was horrible. The only reason it was palpable, the only reason it was playable was because Rick James produced it. Rick James put this bed under it and then Eddie Murphy just, he was told what to do.

He was the worst, is the worst record of all times. And people, he was so good at comedy. That they accepted this. That they were like, yes, this is great. I just want to, my girl wants to party. And you're like, no. And then he tried to hit a no. Party out.

I hate you right now with that man. That was too many yes men. That's a circle. When you actually go and make it, you do that Eddie Murphy shit, fire all your friends. Fire that you didn't have one friend that went, what the fuck are you doing?

Like, you want to kill karaoke? Great. Fire your friends. More famous people need to fire their friends. Man, they do. Cause it has been, yo, whoever told Shaq, Shaq don't realize that he still owe me a thousand dollars. Yeah, I say this all the time. Shaquille O'Neal owes me a thousand dollars.

From what? Robert Young's Barbershop. He's coming in there. His daughter was eight. She was taller than me then. It was crazy. He comes in there, Ali, I bet you don't like all the songs on my album.

I said, I bet I'm not. What year is this? This is the first album. Wait, so this is when he put out- Yes, when he, yes. What's up Doc? Can we rock, with the Fuschnickens. With the Fuschnickens. I say the Fuschnickens song was...

The Fuschnickens was good. You were not in it. So I buy that album. He say you buy it and I'm telling you you don't like everything, I'll give you a thousand dollars. Yo, I bought it. And I came back in that barbershop I say Robert Young, tell Shaquille O'Neal that he owes me a thousand dollars.

Obviously he's never in the barbershop again. He never came back. Yo, and then I saw him in LA with Robert Powell, he was in the thing, and we eating, and I brought him like, yo, you owe me a thousand dollars. And he's like, Ali going with the bullshit. And he's like, in there smoking hookahs, I don't give a damn about that, you owed me $1,000.

I love that, he's like, you didn't listen to the whole thing. He's trying to find his way out of it. No, track 11 through 13 you loved. Hey man, I didn't love it, it was terrible. That whole hour was terrible. But that's the confidence, you understand, that's the confidence of You understand that's the confidence

of not having friends being honest around you when you're betting a thousand bucks that someone's gonna like it when you hear Frank and go, I don't like it. Man, I'm telling you, I used to be, used to do records, ran a record pool, I would A&R records, and these guys would bring their songs in.

They got like seven, eight people in the in the room They play a song and everybody and they and they and this is this is me And they like And they drop in certain parts. I don't give a damn about none of this fucking song was horrible Yeah, like I'm trying to make eye contact about none of this fucking song was horrible. Yeah, like I'm trying to make eye contact with you. I'm like, no, I'm gonna tell you the truth, right? Comics used to hate when I would come.

Don't ask me after you'll sit. Yeah, and I didn't come up for me taping comic view. Bruce Bruce. It is Bruce Bruce. It is Bruce Bruce, Ernest J. Everybody from Atlanta that's big at the time was in this room, getting ready to tape, B.T.

Guy goes out and Jamerio Jamerio, I'll never forget this, because Jamerio Jamerio, the whole thing was, he would talk about himself in third person, talking about Jamerio Jamerrio ain't seen a damn thing. Yeah, that was his thing. Right. So now this guy's on stage and everybody has to walk back in the same room. Yeah. After you finish.

And he's out there and he's taking it to the face. And Bruce Bruce said, don't nobody lie to him. He's gonna come in and ask, amen, how I do? He said, don't nobody lie to him. LaVell Crawford is in the room. The guy walks in and say, amen, how I do? And it is totally silent. LaVell turns his back.

I look off and then you hear, goddamn, Jamerio Jamerio say, Jamerio Jamerio ain't saying a damn thing. Boy, I hollered. I said, man, it's one of these things that I know that people are waiting back there. So I'm gonna, don't ask me if you don't want the true. Yeah.

Because I don't watch, really sit down and watch Bad Company. I'm not gonna do it. I'd rather go hang in the green room. If you, even if you one of my friends, you go on that stage, you doing a bunch of bullshit, dated shit, shit that I don't think that's advancing the game. I'm just be in the green room. You come in there, I'm in there eating chips and shit and crackers and drinking your drink. Hey man, what's up, legal?

Hey, what's up baby? I'm in there eating chips and shit and crackers and drinking your drink. Hey man, what's up, Lee? What's up, baby? I'm gonna speak to you on that level. I can't tell you how opposite it is the phoniness of white comics that we just zero in on one thing we like. It's very congressional. I love that thing about how you said your house was on fire. I know we just keep moving. You know how like congressmen shake hands when they go to like diners that's what every white comic is like where they're like

oh i loved the fact that you brought up your mom instead of that's why there's so much shitty comedy out there is because white comics we need to start policing ourselves i'm gonna start doing it but then here's the thing then everyone turns and goes like oh soda's a fucking hater and you go no i'm not i'm just being honest with you i didn't like any of it. If you do that. This is how I do it. So if you. Yeah I need techniques on how to slip the jab. So when when if I don't like your stand up I don't I don't I won't watch it so I have no opinion. Oh man I was in here fucking around. That's great. That is great. I got caught up talking and shit. You can't be a witness because you didn't see anything.

I don't know. I was over here. You know they got the Montreal Sticks in the green room? If I watched and it's a bunch there and I, save is nothing there. I say this, man, you have a lot of undeveloped stuff that you need to work on. I say it like that very nice, meaning that shit was hard.

Why I didn't, this shit is so undeveloped, that shit is rare. There's nothing that's cooked, that shit is rare. It's a belief. That's off the bone, Jesus. That thing's still mooing. What the fuck is wrong with you? Yeah.

But if I like it. I like that. I'm going to start, dude, I'm going to be so honest. Get ready. Ask me about your set. I don't know. I was a lot of undeveloped stuff. Ooh.

If it's stuff that I like, say if you had something that you're doing and I watch it and I'm thinking like, say if you had something that you doing and I watched it and I'm thinking like, shit, you left a lot of meat on the bone. And that's what I'm gonna tell you, hey man, you left a lot of meat on the bone. This part, this part, this part. That's something that I liked.

I'm gonna tell you in detail what, not trying to write it for you, but giving you other, hey man, what about this line? What about this? That's a way of being honest that's also constructive. Where you just go like, oh, this is an interesting premise. But if I... I always want to wear my pajamas outside.

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If I hit you with the, man, what? I can get past, if I tell you I can't get past something, it's like, that shit was hard right now. You hurt me with that. You hurt me with that stupid joke.

Say man, did you say, yo man, it's something about, if I hear, I judge you on your trailer. Okay. Oh your trailer is, if your trailer is trash, I'm not fucking, I'm not gonna watch the rest of that shit. Oh, I'm not doing it. Dude, they sent me the first cut I got from Son of a Gary on HBO. HBO did the trailer and they sent it to me and I was like, what the fuck is this? They tried to make it look like I was zany and like, woo, like all the noises I made, they put it together

and I was like, this is fucking wild. Who's just saying yes to this? But there are, there are a lot of people that are just like, I don't wanna do the work, I'll just put out, but you're right, a trailer can sink how I feel about a special. So, name the new special that you have. Oh, on the road.

On the road. Yeah. Great fucking trailer. That's the man that did it right there. Watched it because of the trailer. Yeah. He pulled it joking. That's what he did. And what's crazy is just because I like you already you did something else that I like. Son of Gary was like I could see Son of Gary you like oh I'm just gonna watch everything. No it's Son of Gary then what's the next one? Yeah. Then the trailer oh and I'm just gonna watch everything. No, it's son of Gary. Then what's the next one? Yeah, then the trail like oh That's a great right, you know

Yeah, watch the trailer you can tell in the trailer where this shit is going Yeah, but this is gonna be good because sometimes you see a trailer even on somebody you love and you go like what is there? I could tell you I could tell you I could tell you yeah I've seen trailers I'm like yo he has lost his fucking mind and this is a friend I'm like yo you are fucking losing it and you're about to get a text yeah yo call me as soon as you get this bullshit ass trailer off the like yo what the fuck is wrong with you? And like, comics, no. My friends, no.

People think that I'm, man, my friend, I'm not gonna let you put out no bullshit. Yeah, yeah, but that's a good friend. It is, man. I would call him like, Dan. Dan, if I say your name twice in a row, that mean it's some shit. They're like, Dan.

If I have a trailer ever come out that not gets you Dan's, I'm fucking reboot that. I don't know who did, I'm glad you let me see this shit first. I don't know who. But, cause if you don't, that's how you get party all the time. You ever heard of Toby Nowickwe?

No. Okay, so Toby, he's huge now. He's gotten so big. Saturday Night Live with Justin Timberlake and all this shit he's huge now. He's gotten so big. Saturday Night Live with Justin Timberlake and all this shit he's doing, he's like fucking huge. You seen the new Transformer movie? Yeah. So the black guy.

I saw it on the plane. The black guy in the Transformer movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's Toby. So he's a rapper. Okay. That, how he got in that movie is crazy

because the guy liked his music and he passed and he put, it's a whole story. So Toby was on San Francisco 49ers. I see the helmet over there. He was, he played football. Okay. He went to the 49ers. He called me from training camp.

And I was like, as soon as he called me, I answered the phone He talked to me. I said, you know, you about to go come home, right? I mean, I'm not about to come home like Toby I Know other people that played in the NFL and none of them have ever called me from training camp. Yeah, you're about to come home a Week later Toby is back home. Oh my God. So now he's rapping, right? Yeah. Toby sends me his first rap video, everything's on. And I watch it.

And I called Toby, I said, I've wasted minutes of my life. Like, Toby, no. We just gonna say no, Toby. Cause if I just go into all the shit that's wrong with this. I just wanted you to know this, all of it's horrible. I'm gonna keep it green like red light. Red light. That's a red light.

All of this. But that's what you need. He got rid of it. Came back. He is fucking huge with good songs. He's huge. You know why is because there is, it's throughout time. And even if you watch that documentary about Dre and,

fuck, why can't I think of the business partner that the guy that the white guy with the glasses, not David Geffen, but the other guy, the record guy. Ruben? No, he was the guy that did beats by Dre with Dre. The documentary, the defy it ones is about him. Yeah, I forget that dude's name, it's crazy. Is he Asian?

Jimmy Levine. Jimmy Levine, okay. But Jimmy Levine, you see whether it's like Fleetwood Mac, whether it's like No Doubt, Eminem, any of these people that he directly had a thing, No Doubt is what I'm specifically thinking about. They would give him something and he'd go, no, this is garbage, bring me something back. And then they'd bring him something back and go,

you're getting closer. But that's the whole process. you got to cut shit down and rebuild it again to make it better you can't just have this thing of like oh I want to do this thing I'm great at it I don't trust my fan base like that yeah I don't because this is why because it's somebody who can like me and somebody who I'm totally so far better than and so different than and so like, I think that they shit is trash,

but I see you at their comedy show as well. It's something about me going to see, run DMC and the Beastie Boys, that's not gonna allow me to go see, God damn, I wasn't going to see Coolio at the same time. Yeah. Cause you're like, no, no, no, it doesn't cross over. No, no, I'm not going to see PM Don.

Yeah, I love Queens of the Stone Age rock band. I can't go see Imagine Dragons. Cause I'm just like, I just can't, I just can't do it. Yo man. I can't fake it for them. I'm not doing it. Yeah,'t, I can't fake it for them. I'm not doing it. Yeah. That's what it is.

You just have to be honest and be like, I like this and I don't like this. But, oh man, I'm so inspired to criticize people I know now. In a constructive way though. Yeah. In a constructive way. If you're talking to me, this is why, this is what makes you

excellent to me. Because one, you're not talking dated. Yeah. And it's not in this, in this an experience. I mean, I'm over comics talking like it's fucking 1990. Yeah. Like anytime a comic starts talking about they broke and pussy. Now you gotta talk about, you know how irresponsible I sound talking about I'm broke when I'm walking on stage with $1,500 shoes on.

This fucking, you sound fucking stupid. You know what it reminds me of one time I worked and this was before I could bring my own openers or whatever, but I had a guy that the club booked and the whole set he's talking about his, his, his four year old. Oh, my four year old does this. My four year old does this probably by Friday night in between shows. I was like, four year old man, like that's gotta be crazy going on the road this much. He goes, Oh, he's like 26.

And I was like, then what the fuck are you talking about? Why don't you talk about having a grown son? You're talking about having a four-year-old boy. Now it doesn't even, well no wonder those jokes stink. Yeah, because it's no, man, wow. So I take offense to that. Yeah. They like, as the craft, I take offense. Like, as soon as I hear, like, people talking about, this is the worst thing. He's like, man't have no son yeah I've seen that as well but this would have been offensive to me I'm like yo you so you've been watching me right

so Hassan was born and then he his finger got caught in it on the treadmill he's been watching porn at nine, like six he did. Like you see how I keep developing shit that he's done. He's 13 now. Yeah. And when I tell a story about him being 13, I go back to a story when he was 11. Yeah. Because it correlates to the story of why he's saying it's at 13. But there's no reason why you can't touch on it and go, my son's 13 when he was 11.

And then now it's all concurrent. And now it all makes sense. And you're also connected to it. But when you able to tell a story, because I stopped him like, OK, so let me tell you why he's saying this. When Hasan was 11, so he's 11, right? So now he's 13.

Then I go back to when he's 11. But see, I understood. See, I knew when he was seven something was wrong. So now I go back to when he's 11. But see, I understood, see, I knew when he was seven, something was wrong. So now I went back to seven, told you a story about seven, then came back to 11, now I'm back to 13. That's 22 minutes. Yeah, and you don't have to lie.

I don't have to, he was, Jaden is 25 years old. She's not the black seal anymore. She's not she's a fucking life guard. Yeah. Now. Okay. So I'll tell you the story about her swimming at six. She becomes the black seal. She wins this race because the black seal. I understand why people like the black seal because it's a fucking great story. Yeah. And then I did say what I said so then She Goes to it we go through a period in the seventh grade where she was trying like she didn't have a father Because the other kids didn't have father and I'm trying to be cool, but I'm but I'm picking up at school every day I never get she walked past

She walked past the fucking car Like I'm parked out there. She walked past me and she looked at me like I was like I was a fucking driver. And man, I think she called me her uncle. Oh, that's my uncle. My uncle's here. And we're in the car and I'm like, oh, so is your uncle taking you to eat? What are we doing? He's like, dad, other kids don't have fathers. So you killed me off? You're like, what the fuck?

I get the credit for being here. Yo, I get no credit. Like, so who is the, yo no, and seventh grade was weird. So I always have this thing where I can go back into these years. Yeah, because you do it. You can you can do it, too.

You go back into these years of and it's like you remember. Yeah, well, it was like being that at that time. Yeah, I mean, on the latest On the Road, I talked about my mom dating my dad's ex best friend and he would make me go watch him swim. And I remember what that was like being being like, I wanna fight this guy, but he's so good at swimming, I gotta give him his praise. This guy's amazing. This guy gets an old-

The crazy thing. Yeah. My mom dates my dad's old friend, Walter. Yeah. Walter's very abusive to us. So in my two songs, I say I'm talking about abuse. Sure. And why I'm not like that, and how me and my sons are,

and I actually got a little spin-off in there with somebody else. But Walter was mad at me after I let my dad, because it was a situation and my dad came over and my dad whooped the shit out of Walter, because Walter had spanked me and I thought that shit was excessive. I really did and I told my dad and my dad came over

like he really didn't, and I think he was mad, it was a bunch of shit going on, Walter. Yeah. But, and I always talk about how sometimes people have cool ass stuff. I'm a cool ass stepdad. Yeah. I had a cool one first.

Nick, my first one was cool shit. And then it's people who have horrible ones. I would have rather gone bad than good, but I went good than bad. Yeah. I had a good one and then he left and I was like, alright, but then I thought foolishly Well the next one and he was my godfather my dad's ex-best friend I was like, well, this is kind of and then it just sucked and you're like so I had Horrible then I had good. Yeah, like my my daughter's my daughter

I always love her so much. That's my daughter. My sister's um father Ron. Yeah. My daughter's, my daughter, I always love her so much. That's my daughter. My sister's father, Ron. Yeah. Ron is fucking cool. And I remember when my mom and Ron split, like after 20 years, they split, right? Yeah.

So my mom was looking for a place to live after living for years in this townhouse. So I gave her my old house. Sure. And you know, I come back, I got keys to the house, you know, so I go to Tampa. Hang out in Tampa, do shows, stepdad comes, old stepdad comes.

Yeah, Ron shows up. Yeah, Ron shows up, you know, kick it, hang out, boop, boop, boop. And he said, man, you know how your mom doing? They been apart for maybe five, 10 years at this point, somewhere up in there. And I said, how man, you know, you should call her. So then that happens.

Month later I come by the house and the fucking doors locked, like from the inside. Yeah. I call my mom like, yo, what's up, you okay? She's like, yeah, I'm fine. I'm like, okay. I'm coming over to the house, oh no, I'm busy. So I parked down the street.

I wanna see what the fuck going on. My mom. I walked down the street. Yeah, did a little stakeout. Did a little stakeout, you know. And then I come out, I come out, you know, I'm watching. And then Ron comes out to this rental car. I see it's a rental car.

It's not my mom's car, I see it's a rental car. So Ron is in town from Tampa, right? So I'm acting like I don't know nothing. And I was just keep trying to throw it out there. I was like, yo, you was busy those days, right? And my mom was like, yeah, I was at a little company over there. Like, yeah. How was she? And she was like, oh, she was fine. I was like, oh, my mom was a bullshit. You were fine anyway. I saw the whole thing. So then three months go by. Yeah. Still ain't

say nothing. Then my mom calls me. Hey, I'm like, hey, yeah She's like Just you know wonder run something by you cuz I know this is your house What would you think how would you feel that's the most mom question in the world Love to start. How would you feel? That's the most mom question in the world. Moms love to start. How would you feel? How would you feel if Ron came and stayed here? And I was like, probably the same way I felt when I saw him tipping out

the house when you had company and said it was a sheet and it was a goody a key. Yeah. And my mom was like, so. You go fast what I said, I busted you. It's so funny that in the world and like that's how life works where you are in the position she was in when you were a kid and you wanted to sleep over at your friend's house you know she's still like so I can't so it's good we're good

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