Soder - 73: Aged Heroes with Jim Norton | Soder Podcast | EP 71

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

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Hey guys, I'm on the road as always. I'm going to be at the Funny Bone in Richmond, Virginia doing four shows April 4th and 5th. I will be in Spokane, Washington May 1st, 2nd and 3rd at the Spokane Comedy Club doing five shows in Spokane, Washington May 1st, 2nd and 3rd Spokane Comedy Club. DanSoder. comm for tickets see you then bye that's what's weird is to know people that back in the day when I was like an open mic comic I was like following on my spit bill burr used to have blogs

bill burr would be like yeah it was like I'm sick of these hot girls say they're keeping it real you're not the fucking RZA and it was like, yeah, it was like, I'm sick of these hot girls saying they're keeping it real. You're not the fucking RZA. And it was like this, but it was written like Bill Burr. But I remember your celebrity photos. And the one I remember specifically was you in 50 Cent getting off a plane, pointing. That was on the way to MTV Spring Break, that was 2003.

I was doing two pilots This is around last comic standing where I was I I was I didn't want to do it and then Bob and Ross Go you should audition for we think you'd do really well Yeah, so I do and they were gonna put me right through to the next level. I was a fan This was season two of last comic standing Yes For those for those of you younger folks that don't know you you couldn't, stand-up used to be on TV all the time on Comedy Central, but when NBC did Last Comic Standing,

it was a fucking massive event. It was big, it was a big show, and at first I was like, I'm not gonna do it, but then I'm like, why not? I think Vos did season one, wasn't it? Vos met Bonnie on season one. That's right. And it got far, and it was great.

It was good for him. And you fucking murdered on your showcases on season two you did the joke about You can't pay your rent and you're like, what am I gonna cut the hookers head off and show my landlord? Oh, I vaguely remember that you go you go But I remember that was the punchline like what do you want me to cut this hookers head off and show my landlord? I remember they would let you do stuff like that an NBC back and I was like dude this guy fucking rules I was living in Tucson, Arizona Just like a young alcoholic doing open mics and I was like, this is my guy

I had started listening to Opie and Anthony already right so I knew about you That's how I learned about the whole New York crew was tough crowd and ONA But then watching you on NBC. It was like the feeling feeling of like oh this is this is like one of our guys and then all of a sudden they were like due to a contract negotiation. It was but the contract the conflict was I had a Viacom contract I was doing a pilot for MTV at spring break and I did it was called stupid bets it didn't go anywhere and I remember I avoided all the water in spring break and I did it was called stupid bets it didn't go anywhere and I remember I avoided all the water in spring break and we shot on the beach

it was a hundred degrees there were like lights where was it in Cancun in Cancun and I had to run and shit in the public restroom was disgusting well like a bath like a beach public bath the type that didn't have stall doors concrete and how long did you hold that shit? It was, the whole weekend was fine until that last shoot day and there was no holding it. I just felt it and I'm like, here it comes. This is what they talked about.

And I was in the bathroom shitting a lot. Paulie Shore was very nice to me. I always loved Paulie Shore because he made my life, he was really cool to me on that set. He did it as a favor to me. And also he's like almost, I mean as far as MTV Spring Break goes, he's the elder. And he's a god. Yeah, they treated him back in 2003. The old weasel. He's like, I'm coming to put some knowledge. You're going to have to poop in an open

stock. Unfortunately, MTV did not see a future with Jim Norton. They actually they were said they felt bad about the contract thing So they gave me another pilot while I was there which I did with Al from Punk. I don't remember his name The guy from Punk and Vanessa Manilow. Oh shit. It was Nick Lachey's wife. Yes gorgeous Yeah, she was like the hot VJ. I would blame a lot of our modern hot VJ. I would blame a lot of our modern shitty influencer stuff on the lack of VJ jobs. There's a lot of hot people doing stand-up poorly and a lot of hot people doing other stuff poorly. They would have just been great VJs. Or they would have been, their whole thing would have been geared up to audition to be a VJ.

And they would have been like, oh, that's how you would remember it. I'm a big Nina Blackwood guy. If you want to go back to the year, you ever see her in vice squad where she played a prostitute who wings, how's her beat to death? But Nina Blackwood was like, isn't she OG MTV? The first five was her JJ. It was Alan Hunt. It was Mark Goodman and Alan Hunter I think and Mark Goodman I one of them had a show at serious Martha Quinn all of them did all of them But I remember doing the bonfire one of them thought he was hot shit, and I was like brother. It's 2018 Yeah, no one gives a shit. He'd be like hey

You know how famous people do that thing when they go like they walk in and they go hey Hey, sorry, sorry, sorry. You're like you're a fucking original VJ. Yes, you've how famous people do that thing where they go like, they walk in and they go, hey, hey, hey, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. You're like, you're a fucking original VJ. Yes, you've mistaken my disinterest for clamoring. You're really expecting me to be like, oh, what was downtown Julie Brown like? Please tell me what downtown Julie Brown was like. It's so funny to be like, you're aged out, bro.

Yeah. Athletes do that. When you see retired athletes, they still have the like hey Yeah, listen if you want to talk I got a minute I got a celebrity photo last night, but I would say was not the warmest reception. Who was it Gal Gadot? Oh You know how you get her you just go like IDF and then fist bump. I almost mentioned Israel. You would have got her.

I know, but I was getting the picture and I'm like that's all I needed. My neighbor knows her and he had like some event for her. So my wife and I went over and she was probably stayed for half hour and I got her just as she was about to leave. It is the most, literally you've never seen a less interested person than D. Doe and me.

Did she do the thing where she didn't break conversation with whoever she was talking to? Because I've done that before with a famous person where you try to get a picture and they're like, it was with an old 49er and he didn't even stop talking to his friend. He's like, I don't know, the chicken wings are pretty good on the second floor, it's nice meeting you.

I got Tom Brady like that. Really? Wanted nothing to do, I mean, you, nothing. It was, I fucking, I was, for the Tonight Show, I was doing, where did they, the Kentucky Derby. Oh yeah, I forgot, you were Leno's guy on the ground. For a while, and I did, there was, Aaron Rodgers was at this party, Tom Brady.

I get them both to sign a ball. I was the only one that brought a ball to this event. I really am a fucking piece of shit. It's so funny that your entire life, you've looked like a sick kid, and that's the kind of stuff you did, that's the kind of stuff you did sign. I really am a fucking piece of shit. So funny that your entire life you've looked like a sick kid and that's the kind of stuff you get. That's the kind of stuff you get. I did cancer boy things.

Yeah, you're like the gypsy rose. But, man. Aw, gee, could you sign this for me, Mr. Brady? Jesus Christ, this cancer's kicking the shit out of this kid. This poor progeria boy has a football. Aw, gee. Aw, gee, mister. Can we have one throw? Just one throw, throw, Mr. How about one throw to me?

Could you? So Brady didn't even break conversation. No, he was talking with two guys that were like kind of tried to, but he took the picture with me. I think because I was with The Tonight Show, like they gave me the half second. I think we even interviewed iron Rogers for a couple of minutes. Brady didn't want to do an interview, but he took the picture. like that was the only reason I got near him was sure because I had The camera there and like you know they didn't want to be dicks with the camera people around yeah

The camera they're always they're always aware of what's being Yes photographed or videotaped yes famous people have like a sixth sense on that. Yeah, they're smart with it Yeah, so you know you got a know I did a quick selfie, but I didn't I didn't interrupt her chat She was like I could see she was making her way towards the door. So we smiled like oh, hey I'm like, do you mind if I and Nikki is like I would have taken the picture I'm like no you wouldn't if you would have fumbled with the camera My wife of the camera is like fucking Fredo and his father's being shot That's so fucking sure that's what would have happened I would have had no celebrity She's like, I fucked up. I fucked up.

That's so fucking funny. I'm sure that's what would have happened. I would have had no celebrity picture and my wife would have been going, Papa. You just had Galgadot's forehead and you're like, you fucking, you ruined it. Yeah, dude, that is famous. People have that like you have three seconds, get the photo and get the fuck out of the ready. Be prepared. Always be closing ABC. Did you? I mean, you when you would do like pictures, the oh three 50 cent picture. Yeah, that's a

digital camera. There's no smartphone. I had to give it to somebody, but that was we sat next to each other on the plane., so like the whole flight down was he like what are you doing? Man, you just threw his teeth. He literally said nothing. I was gonna dab it. He's drew a little bit I was gonna just dab Gentlemen, well, he's got that's probably his bullet wound. I know he got shot It's kind of cool when he does that cuz you know that's from being shot. Yeah, not from him being a sloppy Bullets that's the sign of it's one that didn't take his life. That's a survival. We were just I put on I still

have cable. So I like the thing is I don't put on 24 hour news. I don't put on like SportsCenter. I put on HBO or Showtime. And we were watching get rich or die trying. Yeah, just because it's when I see now digital cable will tell you what the Rotten Tomatoes rating is if it's below 20 I'm watching you have to watch it you have to watch it I think get Richard I trying was 17% was it it was so I was like I gotta watch it and then you realize Fitty can't talk all of his dialogues him going man that's crazy I don't even know if I won't even do that

man and then you realize it's like oh yeah cuz he's talking through a bullet All of his dialogs, him going, man, that's crazy. I don't even know if I wanna even do that, man. And then you realize it's like, oh yeah, because he's talking through a bullet wound. He got shot. I love him. We sat together for three hours on a plane. I wanted to talk to him so bad, but I didn't know what to say.

I remember when the food was being brought out, I almost reached over and pulled his tray out, but I'm like, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't baby him. Don't baby him. Oh, thanks, man. Can you tuck in my napkin?

You have to put a napkin in and you go, not here, you're flying it into his mouth. He'd want me to cut it up for him. He goes, I don't like steak. Can we trade? City, here it comes. Oh, that's so fucking funny. He was nice though.

He took the photo. Who did you get to take the photo? It was just, it might've been one of his guys or a woman that was walking, That's so fucking funny. He was nice though, he took the photo. Who did you get to take the photo? It was just, it might have been one of his guys or a woman that was walking, but usually with the digital camera, it can be an awkward one. I got McCartney coming out of Stern Studio

and no one was allowed near Paul McCartney, but I'm like, excuse, I'm getting a fucking photo. So as he's walking, the way to do it is you look, they know you and you start talking, and you go, hey man, they'll always, and I had you have to have the camera ready I'm like you might have a take a photo and he goes. Oh, yeah, man Yeah, he'll do it and I and he just fucking I gave it to a guy and he took a picture of me and McCartney Everyone else who wanted the picture was like wow the master has showed us how he's really did

Yeah, have it ready. You have it ready and I've blown that so many times. Would you blow it Joe, Montana? I was on the sideline of a 49ers game because my buddy was a coach with the 49ers and his wife was like Joe Montana and Jerry Rice don't take photos like don't even try to do it like but if I would have had what happened was Montana went and talked to someone next to me if I would have had my phone ready I could have gone joke I get a picture real quick but I didn't I had my phone in my pocket yeah and I fucked it up you have to be you have to open it yeah and you have to be don't be a fucking in selfie mode and you have to have your finger there Joe do you mind if we a quick one and they'll always say yeah cuz they're

just stopping yeah that was my impression of me taking a photo anybody watching write it down I know but if I was auditioning for the part, I wouldn't get it. You know what? I think we saw everything we need to see. Was there ever a picture that you blew where you were like, I could have got that one? Because especially back in the day, we're talking peak ONA, we're talking peak serious, we're talking peak XM. You guys had crazy famous people coming by Yeah, we did. I've been turned down by a couple of people in public. I've been turned down by Mick Jagger, what did he say? It was fucking I was in the I was in a hotel in

I was it was what was it called the montage in Beverly Hills sure and I was I'm doing I'm in the Pilates room like before I became a fat pig again I was actually really thin and I was just doing some yoga. And I walk out and the gym is empty, it's Mick Jagger and his trainer. That's it. In the whole gym? The whole fucking gym in the hotel.

So I'm like, they're talking and I go, I go, hey Mick, can I take a, and he goes, ah, no photos, mate. And it's because I knew that he looks old and he didn't have his makeup on. So at least I didn't humiliate myself. I said, okay, I adore you. Oh.

I really, there's a lot of times in my life I should have been shot in the head. Oh. And that was one of them. Dude, the one that you're telling, I adore you, makes me always remember when I first moved to New York, Louie was running Chewed Up. He was like, and Joe List was like, we were doing the old Boston, which was the comedy. Oh, yeah. Yeah And Joe List I've told the story before on here, but Joe List was like go get Louie go like List went to the cellar to get a check from the Apollo because the Apollo is there right list comes back

He goes Louie's there. He's running a set go. Let him know we got a show working He'll come over here and running a set. Go let him know we got a show working. He'll come over here and do a set. And I was like, young comic, Louie's one of my heroes. Yeah. I didn't know what to say. So he got off stage and I go,

Louie, the village is working. The comedy village? And he goes, what? And I go, the village is working. And he goes, the village is working? And he goes, what? And I go, I don't know. And he goes, the village is working. And he goes, what? And I go, I don't know. And he goes, yeah, I don't know either.

And he's walked up the stairs to the olive tree. And I went back and I told Lis and he, and you know, Lis is like excited, blinking a lot. And he's like, fucking where is he? Where's Louie? And I go, I told him the village is working. And Lis goes, huh? And he goes, we're in the village.

And I was like, I know. I've never told Louie that story about, cause I hope he forgets it. Cause it's that feeling of like, I adore you. You go like. It's humiliating. Oh, Conan, right before I left the bonfire, Conan was starting his channel on SiriusXM.

And he was in the hallway with Big Jay and I. And Big Jay and I went and talked to Conan. And Jay goes, you got so excited. I thought you were going to call and talked to Conan and Jay goes you got so excited I thought you were gonna call him mr. Conan O'Brien No he came into the studio and said hi I pushed out though but like Conan's a guy that I get like I grew up watching him so I don't know Conan I saw him once at the store in LA. He was with his wife and you can't miss

this six foot six redhead. But we don't know each other so I didn't talk to him. But I was kinda tempted to. He's the man. Yeah, I like Conan. Did you ever meet Carson? No, he died in 2005 or six. No, he's one guy I would love to have met

but there was never a chance to. Did you do Carson? No, no, my first Leno was 2004. I wanna say it was October, or September of 2004, I think was the first time I did Leno. So no, Johnny was already gone by then. I think he was, oh, he was long gone. He retired in 93.

So no, never met Carson. There's a few guys, I've met most of the guys I've loved. Most of the people in my life I've wanted to meet, I've met. Has there ever been a huge disappointment with someone you've met that you love that you're like half this fucking guy You know I don't think so like the people I've loved them everyone in Sabbath kiss the first time I met Gene Simmons Gene is not the warmest no first thanks, but he's got me. He's been he's gotten I roasted him in 2007 Okay, Jeff Ross brought me got me in on the fucking Family Jewels. Oh, yeah, and every time I see him in 2007. Jeff Ross got me in on the fucking Family Jewels. And every time I see him after that, he's great.

He came in to the bonfire and he just like, he's just such a pussyholic that he was like, talking to Christine, he's like, well look at this lovely lady. And you're like, shut up, Gene. And I was just kind of like this old horn dog is just in here being like, the lovely lady hasn't talked.

And you're like, shut up. It's funny when you don't care about old celebrities. Yes, when they don't, and the worst is when you see someone who doesn't care about a celebrity that you're in awe of, because you're like, just talk to them nice. Please be nice. Oh, dude, wrestlers,

whenever wrestlers would come through, Jay doesn't care about wrestling, but I'd be at serious, I'd be like, oh, fucking Chris Jericho's here. And he but I'd be at serious, I'd be like, oh, fucking Chris Jericho's here. And he'd be like, okay. And I'd be like, oh, just acting flat out retarded around wrestlers. I never care about them,

but I think they're the best interviews because like those guys can talk about anything. They're fucking great with a mic. Wrestlers are awesome interviews. They're also carnies. They're all carnies. They know how to sell, they know how to make it interesting. They're also like, they know that if they're not selling, they're all carneys and how to sell then how to make it interesting they're also like they know that if

they're not selling they're dead that's right so they're just like yeah what do you what do you want what do you want but I mean like Sam is comfortable with them now but I can't imagine back in the day when he was a producer for ONA him being cool around WWE people always a guy who knew how to at least get the task done of asking the questions. And one thing about Sam that was good is that he didn't mind looking bad. Like when he would do his what's the haps

or whatever, he would ask one question. He didn't care if it made him look like a fool as long as it sounded good on the air. I always respected that. He didn't, he's better at it than I am. Like for me, there's nothing they could've got me to do that would have made me look stupid for Ozzy I just wouldn't have done it I would have said now I'm not doing that you went from obviously super fan of Sabbath super fan of Ozzy to like getting to know

Ozzy and Sharon in the way that Ozzy did the sketch before one of your specials Yeah, I mean he introduced it was always a dream of mine He introduced me like into camera from a toilet in his house I remember the amazing was that that was a monster. He's defended. No, I was there was no yeah But I remember watching that as your as a fan ears And it's like when you're a fan of somebody and you know, they're a fan of somebody it makes it like oh shit Like when you got Lemmy for down and dirty on HBO, but That was unbelievable. I just love, I wanted him involved. I wanted him involved somehow. And then you guys would just cut to him after like an Al Jackson set.

And he'd be like, right Lemmy? And he'd be like, I love Down and Dirty. He would introduce me. I think that's how we had it. We were using We Are the Road Crew as the song. Yeah. He would introduce me. I think that's how we had it. We were using we are the road crew as the song Yeah, and I remember we shot the opening of the thing. So me and Lemmy were in a limo going from from the theater in Englewood I think it was back to New York and we shot it by this Minute in Minetta Lane, which is us walking but he's playing fucking runaround man Which was off at that time the new motorhead record. It was so fucking great I'm sitting in a limo. He's like check this out man, and he's playing this new music for me in the limo

It just is that a moment where you're like how the fuck I'm getting to hear brand new motorhead with Lemmy with Do you feel in that moment like you have to react like like over sell it like this is unbelievable It was easy because I loved the song sure Ozzy played new Sabbath for me when it when they were doing I think it was they were doing reunion and Sharon I was at the house for something and she goes why don't you play Jim some of the it might have been be more than we were shooting the scene and she goes why don't you play some of the new stuff for Jim and he was alright and right, and he takes me to an audience, I'm in Ozzie's basement with him,

and he's playing fucking, he's playing Sabbath, it was crazy, it was just, it's just. It's like queuing that up and you're like, what the fuck? It never, and I don't think I'm cool when this happens, I'm like, my life is really good. Yeah, it feels, whenever those kind of moments happen, I think you're like most people,

or like me where you're kind of like, is this think you're like most people or like me where you're kind of like, is this the end? Like this, what a crescendo. This worked out. Ozzy being like, Oh, I'm going to play you something. No one's heard this. And you're like, Oh, I also am such a people pleaser that in that moment I feel like I would oversell. Sure. Sure. Where they're like, this is the greatest song you've ever written. And he'd be like, it's not though. And then you're like, it's not.

It's not. It kind of sucks. And he goes, no, it's good. And you go, yeah, yeah, it's good. But it just sucks compared to. Compared to like Crazy Train. And he goes, I didn't even know Crazy Train. And you go, horrible song.

Yeah, me neither. That's what sucks about getting around people like, I'm a huge Queens of the Stone Age fan. I'm so glad I've never met Josh Homme because I feel like I would be too much in that mode of being like you're the greatest ever Like Chris Farley show that's why Chris Farley nailed it on SNL being like do you remember? When you were in Caius and you guys did welcome to Sky Valley and you'd be like, yeah, I lived it Of course, I fucking remember awesome. Yeah, you're, oh, so great. Do you have a problem watching?

You know, Ozzy can't stand now. I feel very bad for. Yeah, that's I think 2019 he fell. I do. It's hard to see because I love him. But it's one of those things where like Ozzy survived everything. Like, I mean, everything. You know, how many guys would have been dead doing what he did. So the fact that he's still here, they're doing that one more show in England. Yeah, of course. I'm gonna go to you going to that of course Yeah, is that like this isn't like a share thing where they go like final performance, and he goes actually I'm doing

No, I don't think he can do more I think he's I might get my guess and I don't know this but my guess is he's gonna be seated The way actual was when he broke his leg with a CDC because his voice is still good So I'm guessing he's gonna do some Ozzy and some Sabbath bill ward is old like those guys are in their mid 70s They're fucking I mean they really I don't know how the stones are still going. It's crazy. It's gotta be a dream of chrome It's crazy. It's gotta be the it's gotta be the brain juice of scared kidnapped Taking little aborted spines and sucking the fucking sand.

Well, all right. Sucking the stem cells. He goes, we're gonna do Beggar's Banquet front to back. That little boy was scared out of his mind. And they go, we're still looking for Kyle. Meanwhile, Keith is just cigarette in his mouth, fucking ripping. The fact though, I don't know,

maybe Mick Jagger didn't do the amount of, I don't know what they did, but the fact that those guys are still fucking healthy is crazy. I don't know, but I'll tell you, my favorite thing about Instagram is when the algorithm does kind of figure you out and they show you clips of shit that like you would have never saw.

I've been obsessed with watching this clip of Keith Richards and Chuck Berry argue about how Chuck Berry's guitar sounds Yeah, and Keith is just like over it. He doesn't have any of what we're talking about. We were like, you're my hero He's kind of just like I don't know man That's how fucking sound you just see Keith Richards at one point go like it's just how it fucking sounds Chuck Berry's like I give it he's just batshit nuts. He was crazy and Chuck Berry's like, I ain't giving, he's just batshit nuts. Yeah, he was crazy.

So you just like watch him, you watch him and you're like, I love watching that. When someone's like over their hero's shit, where they're like, shut the fuck up, Chuck Berry. You know him well enough to know that you make a lot more money than Chuck Berry does. Yeah, Keith Richards was about to be like, hey, I'm paying your rent this month.

This is, I'm paying for the hooker to fart in your mouth now. My favorite video, by the way. I want you to fall. A classic. Fall. And then when he pees on her and you're like, oh my God. And he's laughing. Yeah, when those videos came out, you're like, oh, okay.

Yeah. He was a sick boy. I have a new hero. You go, I thought I liked his guitar playing. Turns out I love his hooker playing even more. There's great footage of him with Springsteen. They're doing, I liked watching people like that Interact like because it's very rare

You see the stones or the or McCartney get blown away by somebody sure to see those So we watch those guys interacting with Chuck Berry like Springs. I forget what I think is just Johnny B Good he came out and played it but just to watch Bruce standing back there like holy fuck. Yeah Chuck Berry Yeah, like they can't believe they're working with him. Springsteen's having the moment you had with Ozzie in his basement where he's like, holy shit, I'm watching fucking Chuck Berry play. There's a clip of Muddy Waters playing

with like a young Rolling Stones and they're like, holy shit, he's in the fucking room. I never wanna get over that. Like I know, I don't run around and take pictures anymore. Like if somebody was there that I wanted or get sure But like there was plenty of times. It's serious as years when I just didn't run out and meet people. I didn't give a fuck sure But like I hope I never get over enjoying meeting people like that who I love yeah It's like why should I like that they've made me happy and I want to meet them

And why would I pretend that I'm I'm not awed by? You were part of one of my favorite moments at the cellar. I went in on a Sunday. I was still drinking and I like went in. I was in the area at a bar and I went in. It was like an eight o'clock show and at the table. It was still before they did the construction. So it was still like the bar. And it was Lenny Marcus, you and Robin Williams. And Robin Williams was just sitting next to you at the table and just having a conversation with everybody. And I sat down and I didn't like try to do anything but then shout out to Lenny Marcus.

He went, hey Soder, 49ers won today. And Robin was from the Bay area. And he looked up at me like excited and he goes, the 49ers won? And I was like, they did, they beat the Rams. And he was like, oh, that's great. And I was like, oh, this moment? I'm not gonna ask for a picture.

This is just an incredible moment to tell Robin Williams that the 49ers won. I wish I knew then what I learned later because I would love to have whispered to Robin like what you're gonna do. Lenny, you do it instead. Hey, Lenny, I wish you'd find a doorknob, a doorknob and your cock in your hand. Lenny, by the way, Lenny Mark is very underrated,

a really, really funny comedian. Murders on stage. Worst timing texter in the fucking world as a sports fan. Oh, is he bad? He waits until the 49ers are losing and be like, what's going on? And you're like, shut the fuck up Lenny.

Yeah, he's a guy who I don't think, I think Lenny can hold a conversation with anyone. He doesn't seem like he gets floored by, at least he presents like he wouldn't be floored by anyone, which is, it's a good quality. You know, that idea of like being intimidated or changing your behavior based on a celebrity, you see who's like real ones and who's not. My favorite example of this is Colin had that joke

about Bruce Springsteen, about how he's a phony, where he's like, Oh, yeah, real working man. Yeah. Doing a six hour concert on a Tuesday. And it's an unbelievable bit. Yeah. Or he's like, now there's a welder in New Brunswick missing a thumb because you wanted to do a 36 minute version of Rosalita on a weekday. And I love that bit. And he would do it or whatever. Then he did a benefit with Springsteen and did the joke in front of Springsteen. And you're

like, I would never have the balls. No, no, I would never have the balls to go out there and just bust the boss's chops. But Colin's like, I don't fucking give a shit. And that always to me was like a superpower. Although you should have seen Colin, there was times like where like, you know, and then yeah, Robin Williams, you know, like before, and then he started coming around in the cellar

and he'd be up there improv-ing at the table. And you know who else was laughing along? Colin. Fucking. When you see your friends be phony, there's nothing better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ohony, there's nothing better. Oh yeah, I guess I do.

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Could have got another season if you just knew who out of it. If you would just be nice to somebody and you didn't dig in. Did you ever see that moment with Patrice where you were like, so close to Patrice, you're like, Patrice, just don't be a dick to this guy. Because Patrice seemed like, and this is just coming from a guy that was an open micer, very on comic, Patrice seemed like a guy

that you didn't want to get around because he would just fucking tear you down if you fucked up. You know, I saw him in his private life getting like very regretful of things he did. Sure. Like, you know, I think he was 40 when he started, but we we were talking and you see I remember him going man. I feel I'm irrelevant I'm just I'm not he was really bothered by the fact and he started like apologizing to people

You know everyone has that when they get to a certain age Yeah And so he's I think it did affect him some of the shit that he had said and done like because he was a nice Guy like he was a big shit talker and a blabbermouth, but he was also like a really good per- like- Yeah, there were moments and I and I think young comics or guys my age now like do remember when you were around Patrice, it was something that Colin said actually on ONA when Patrice passed away where he said he'd make 50% he's up in heaven making 50% of the people feel comfortable and 50% of other people

feeling uncomfortable and then flipping it. He, he was very good at that. He was very good at like, if you were insecure, I remember being at stand up New York, like waiting to do check spots and Patrice would talk to me. But then if I was like with other young comics, like Joe List and Mark Norman, he would be like, get out of here. He'd be like, fuck off. But in those moments where I was by myself and insecure, he'd be like, what are you doing? What is this? You know, in a way that you're like, oh shit. And then I would be like, Oh, I know Patrice. Yeah. I'd be like, hi Patrice. And he'd be like, Oh, and he'd be like, Oh, shut the fuck up.

But it was, I always, you know, people do that now where they go like, I wish Patrice was around to hear what he says. And you go, he would have hated most of the people that say they wish he was around. Who says, what do you think? But trace listen I I do love that though because he get my thing is like it's like you know How happy he would be that he's been dead for all these years and people are still using him to torture us Jim you can't get rid of me. I'm still haunting you motherfucker.

Here's what he was really good at. He was very good, like there were times where I had like a couple of relationship issues and when you would just talk to him one on one about something, like he really was a good friend and he was a guy who really did, he was a great negotiator and a great, like me and Keith were fighting in Brazil in 2000.

Oh, God, you guys and your fucking hooker trip. It was some hooker fight to fucking the New York comic fucking Brazilian summer camp where just everyone would go and come and people it was just a come camp. You guys would go down there just fuck and then Keith would bust our balls that we didn't do that when we got older. But I didn't fuck much. I did a little bit, but I would fall in love. I went down there. I got a girl who spoke English and I don't even think I fucked her for the whole week.

I would just like try to wife her up and be close. Oh, you'd listen to stories. Oh, and me. What's the fawella? Yeah, what is your experience? How much do you make a month? Is your brother good at soccer? I remember when I got back to the US I was sending her like a Spiderman DVD. I was sending her, I really, again, I'm an in love sap.

Do you think she's still alive? Her name is Fabiana. I don't know. Fabiana, Fabiana reach out. She's very pretty, she had a little nose ring. But I remember being Keith, we were fighting about something. I don't remember what. Remember that time I argued with Keith like yeah, you can't be friends with Keith and even remember what you fought He starts in third gear. He is a fucking you walk in and he just go out he walks in he goes I'm glad you're 49ers think he just will walk in and say the most offensive thing. I love him

he's but we were fighting and I remember it was a Patrice was kind of acting as a go between. But he was very good at like, you know, this is what Brazil means to you. And this is what it means. So he was a good negotiator at times like when neither one of you

is hearing each other. So he probably saved that trip. So we didn't just fight the whole fight because he wanted to get his and he was like, if these guys are fighting, it's going to kill the vibe, it's going to kill the vibe. And I need to fucking I got this bag of dildos with me. Yeah. When Bobby told me

that story, you're like, that's insane. Dr. Dildo. I'll never forget that. Yeah. You know, what's funny is I remember this story that, uh, that big Jay told me where Patrice had a barbecue and he invited Nate. And then the next year, Nate didn't get an invite Barghetti and Nate was like upset about it. And he called Jay and he's like, I think Patrice is like mad at me or something. And Big Jay called Patrice and was like, hey, is my buddy Nate say anything?

You know, do you get an invite? And Patrice goes, no, invite Nate. He doesn't believe in dinosaurs. That's the kind of person I want at my barbecue. Not everyone agreeing with me. And that was such a rational take that you're like, that's hilarious. He's like, yeah, I don't want a guy that's just going to say yes to everything I say. Right, right, right.

I want a guy that doesn't believe in science. He liked the debate. He liked the debate. He liked to spar. Like every comic, he liked to spar. It was fun for him to get in there and make there and he didn't want somebody to get in there. He said who he could run over. Because he would always pick on big targets.

I remember one time there was some guy came in to the cellar and we were sitting there and he was like a big kind of psychotic looking guy and he came over and Patrice started making fun of him and fucking with him and then the guy left. I forget what the wording was but I called Patrice started making fun of him and fucking with him and then the guy left And I forget what the wording was but I called Patrice out I'm like you just did that so he would think Well, you're the guy who will make fun of anybody and he laughed and he's like, yeah, you always see my phoniness He was the person that everyone said yeah could call out their phoniness. Yeah, but he was a phonies

He was the same guy, but you know, it's so funny? That is great that he goes, ah, shit. Yeah, I know. But he knew he wasn't he wasn't dishonest about that stuff. Like he knew that he was he knew exactly what he had done. Yeah. And he knew that I saw it just like he would have seen it if I did it. Yeah. I mean, that's like what I love watching Shane Gillis be around famous people. He bullies them. And they don't have that. So they love it. Where he goes like, what are you gay or whatever? They're like, shut up.

And then they're like, like NFL players who are giant men. Yeah. They're like walking gods in modern day NFL. And then Shane's like, whatever. I can gaywad. And then they're like, you want to be friends? Yeah. Cause they like it. Cause it is, it's like a lack of phony when you can cut to someone like that. When you tease somebody or when you, cut to someone like that when you tease somebody

Oh, yeah Yeah When you when you talk to somebody in a way that they're not used to being talked to but it's genuine it's not shitty That's why I hate I mean I've worked on it with therapy in years But I hated how much of a people pleaser I was most of my life difficult Yeah, cuz yeah, I was just like oh, yeah, I fucking suck and then people would be like well And you're like and then you walk away. You're like damn it Everything went wrong. No, but it's that same like and I mean, I don't put words in your mouth But that's him humiliating groveling

But it's one of the things that makes it funny to like all these things that we hate like yeah But you know what that does kind of go into yeah making me funny the fact that I'm a people-pleasing blinking weasel Oh my god, just willing to shake hands with whatever slimeball Jeffrey they're giving you a bad rap I Think you know what Teddy I think those women deserve those crowbars on the side of the head good job, mr Bundy, but you know like talking about the Aussie stuff. I always think it's weird I think there's like a part of life that no one talks about where it's kind of sadder to watch your heroes get old than yourself get old.

Because I don't think you realize you're getting older as much as when you see like Aussie not being able to stand. That's right. You're like, oh fuck. That's your sign that you're getting, that's right. Because that's why people hate it when bands cut their hair, where they hate it. Like, and I feel feel like when people go

You've changed. Yeah, and I'm like, hey asshole. I'm 56. You started listening to me when I was 30 Yeah, and by the way dummy you've changed. Are you the same guy you were 25 years ago? You're fucking at least I'm still doing what I was doing. Yeah, I guarantee you your wife tells you what to do. You got fucking kids I got a fucking you then you're not the same guy either. And then they're like, you've, I think that's all it is, just projection of it. Cause it is when you see your heroes get old and start to break down and like, you're like, ah, fuck.

It is just a reminder that you're like, ah, I'm not the fucking kid in the van listening to them. I'm like, you like want to know what their vitamin regimen is? You want to know if they're eating chicken without the skin? You want to know like adult shit that you're like, this sucks.

Yeah, this is not where I thought I would be. And that's why like someone like a Paul McCartney doing three hours without a sip of water. Yeah, it's crazy. You're like, holy shit. It's fucking crazy. Or the Stones, the Stones doing like, we had someone on the podcast that's

yeah nathan mackintosh went to the stone show and he was like i saw the stones last night and i was like i don't want to see those old guys and he was like it was unbelievable yeah i've heard they're still great and that's when you're like oh fuck watching them still have a little bit in the tank you're like yeah this is not fucking bad you You know, wrestling, John Cena just turned heel and I saw someone break it down. They were like, well, yeah, his fans aren't little kids anymore. His fans are all in their twenties and thirties now, so they don't care that he's a bad guy. Right. Right. Right. Don't even watch wrestling anymore. Yeah.

And the little kids that like Cena, they're not as connected to him as they were 15, 10, 15 years ago. And that's that's like a thing about growing up is you're like, Oh yeah, you do get old and then you got to let your heroes get old. You got to let them get old too. And not, and realize when you're pissed at them for it, that it is a reflection of the fact that you're getting, as long as they don't become people that they're like,

like totally the opposite. Like I'm not as crazy as I used to be, but I'm not out there telling people what to say. I'm not out there correcting people's, you know, well, you shouldn't use that term. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. But that's, that's I think the worst form of celebrity is when people try to stay relevant by completely selling out what they stood for back in the day. It's exactly what we were, man, sometimes I wish you guys could see the shit we talked before we filmed these

podcasts. Oh God, it was glorious. Yeah. But there is, we were talking about a comic that got famous and basically just flipped up their entire thing. Once, once they got in trouble, they were like, I didn't mean anything. And you're like, well then now you've done irreparable damage. Yes. Because instead of going like, ah, I was young, I was saying crazy shit, which most people... We all get it. Yeah, dude. It's like I used to fucking smoke cigarettes.

I'm not faulting anybody for smoking cigarettes. I miss it all the time. But if I was like, I wish I never smoked, bullshit. I miss it all the fucking time. Yeah, we were also talking about certain comics who, when they get to a point of being well known, and I was trying to I was doing a podcast run at one point and you know like if Rogan has me on his podcast I feel that anybody else doesn't have to have me on but I but I merit a response like that and I don't I

don't walk around thinking I'm fucking good but like if I if there's somebody who I've had on the radio show and I reach out through somebody sure to do your podcast and you don't even respond. Go fuck yourself. You don't have to have me. You may be busy, but motherfucker, I deserve a yes or a no. And even me, I've seen people get famous and I would have a relationship with them

and then all of a sudden I don't serve that person anymore. And all of a sudden now it's like, oh, I don't get texts, phone calls. It's just, it's not even like, it's a non-starter. And you're like, oh, well that kind of sucked. Because what it is is when people change, you go, I thought the old version was the reality. Yeah.

And it turns out that you can shift reality depending on how famous you are. And I also, when people like, there's a lot of guys who are like, like the person I was mentioning before, you know, we didn't say their name because for what, but like, I know I'll tell you in person when you come to a show. If you get me outside the venue, I'll fucking tell you when you get really famous, I know it's hard to maintain the same relationship because you're busy

You have a whole new set like I do get that like so I don't expect people to keep me in their circle the time Like I don't give a fuck but at least respond and also there's there also is a part of when people get Extremely famous there is like a decompression era where you're like, you gotta give them like a year or two 100%. Because they've got 600 people with their hands out. You know, I remember watching Shane get famous. He stayed himself on a level that I respect tremendously,

which is like still sending each other fucking memes. You know, if something happens in the NFL, we'll still text about it. But I don't expect him to call me the way he did when he was coming up. But you got it. It's like a give and take. But when you see some people completely change and go like, Oh, this was all transactional. Yeah. Those are the people that tend to when they fall out of grace, kick and scream. Yeah. And you're happy to see it. Yeah, and you go, Good, I hope it hurts.

Yeah, you piece of shit. Hope it hurts, you fuck. But like, you wonder with like a guy like Ozzy, you wonder if a guy like Ozzy, like, he's done it so much that the people that are there are there. Yeah, and he's also a very genuine guy. Like again, but he's been famous since 1968.

That's insane. When you've been, you know, like since the, I mean the first record came out in 69, I think in England or seven, at 70 here. Yeah. Like, you know, you've handled fame, you've been up, you've had your downs, you fucking. It's not even a real,

I don't even think to him fame is a thing. It's just like. It's his life. He lives. It's his life. He just lives his life. Also him and his family were the first reality They changed everything that they changed everything that the Osbournes was fucking massive And it was Sharon said there was no take two on it like so they would They maybe took eight or nine months of just filming them all the time

Yeah, um and she said we didn't do take two so we just shot it But they have an interesting life you had Ozzy had the two kids you had Sharon doing her show like sure So there was enough stuff to do there. Everyone thinks they're interesting enough for a reality show Yeah, and you didn't realize it was like compared to the Osborn's you're not fucking half as interested I would like you today. I was on fucking the computer seeing my podcast count Film that just check the views And it really is like with Ozzy. I always thought it was interesting when the Osborns

came out that his oldest daughter Amy was like, I'm not participating in this. And she cut herself out and kind of saved her own private life. She wanted her private. I don't know Amy. She's I know the rest of the family. I've met her. And she's a musician.

She's actually a good singer. Like she has her own, but it's very different than anything Ozzy does. But yeah, she just kind and she's a she's a musician. She's actually a good singer Like she has her own but it's very different than anything Ozzy does Yeah, but yeah, she just kind of she's that person who just she's the oldest and she just I mean up from this from with Sharon There's there's got to be something about being the child of a global superstar. That is worse than having a deadbeat parent Right. Well, there's no expectations the deadbeat parent there. There's no like Pete You know when you have a deadbeat parent, you know why people are your friend when you're Ozzy's kid You have to always go is it me or is it the fact that he's my dad?

And also you have to watch about like these global celebrities. They're never around for their kids Yeah, and so they also go like well all these people love you More than I do because I don't see you. Because I don't fucking know you. I know my Brazilian nanny who was getting DVDs sent to her by Jim Norton in fucking 98. But you're like, I don't even fucking... You like, I would, like as someone with a deadbeat parent, it was almost kind of like easier. Like if I would have found out he had another family, I would have been like, ah, that fucking hurts.

That hurts a little bit, yeah. If you're a global superstar and you're like, oh, so you, like, an arena in London is going nuts for you, but I'm not gonna see you on my birthday. I fucking hate him. Well, when I do see you, I mean, you're gonna ruin it because you're drunk. Oh, my daughter on drugs, just on the couch,

and you're like, Daddy. Lifting up his arm. That's got to be, I would probably say the worst parent to have would be a drug or alcohol addicted rock star father. Yes, well, I would say a drug or an alcoholic or drug addicted deadbeat dad would be worse, because they have no money.

At least the rock star can fund your lifestyle and pay you but Then you start to resent money then there's a resentment there then you're like give me your money Then it's like all the thing my dad was broke as fuck when he died I was like, I don't know maybe I can get a Niner jacket. Yeah At best I you got a dodge debt when they're when they're fucking poor, but when they're rich I think it would fuck up How you would view them because you would be like I want your money. I want something out of this I got nothing out of you as a parent. Give me millions. I want your money Yeah, I mean, I don't know I can imagine that if they're not around for you

It's got to be awful, but there's kind of like I love these guys like Bill Gates Were it was I think Steve Jobs or they were saying that they're not leaving their kids any money. I'm leaving no money to my children. And a lot of them say that, but I think that the whole thing is bullshit. They say that, but I think that's also to weed out gold digging partners for the kid. I don't think that that really,

I don't think Bill Gates is gonna leave his children nothing. But, if he does leave them nothing, what a reveal. Because they're like sitting around, they go, yeah, I mean, he did the talking, but I don't think he's actually gonna do it. Yeah, dad. Yeah, and then they read the will, and he's like, this cocksucker didn't give me a fucking dime. Yeah, his pancreas was rotting out,

and he still didn't give me any money. He was using crystals on his pancreas, and I didn't even get 100,000? They said that's why, they said, I think he said he was gonna leave him 10 million, which is a lot, but not compared to 100 billion. But they said that was one of the reasons maybe Melinda left. I mean, the whole Epstein friendship probably didn't help.

Him going to an island where there's young girls getting fucked. Well, he's still gay, so they need a computer fix. He goes, you know what, why don't I come down there and look at the hard drive? That's what they were doing. I'll show you how to block an IP address. Jeff, let me get down there. I got malware that I can install on your shit. By how crazy, they're all nuts computers.

How crazy was that fucking, was McAfee. Oh yeah. He said like women shit on him. Like he would, they said lay under a hammock and girls would like hang in the hammock and shit. I mean, what a classic, what a great guy he is. Also, you know how difficult it must be to wash poop out of a hammock?

Yes. With that fucking knit. With that knit, like the way the the rope it's just in there and then the second girl goes there's shit still on there He goes he's getting under the hammock. He goes just just yeah, you actually have to cut the part out so there's an asshole I always think about that like when they do documentaries about like how sick like rich guys are and they have like shit thrones Or whatever. I just think it's funny the upkeep of being like alright. Well, I gotta get someone to wash it Yeah, it's gonna be dirty. Yeah, rich guys aren't gonna wash their sex dungeon No, but I don't know you can't ask somebody that's embarrassing

I rich guy doesn't want people knowing he does that either a rich guy doesn't want somebody like hey Could you wash the you know the chair over I put my head through the shit box to? Jack in the box where I take a dump down the throat. Oh, yeah. There's dominatrix that have that where you put your head in a box. It just stops. And then they, I guess, open up that could be so

claustrophobic. Well, that was the, you know, they did that documentary on army hammer because they said he was a kind of horrible, but discovery did like a five part thing on his family. Yeah. Because his family was like oil barons or whatever. And they said his dad had a chair that was a throne where a head, where a woman could like put her head through the seat.

It was like what we're talking about. And you're like, that's so funny. The designs. The woman or him? Like they would have women, I guess, pop her head out to give him oral while he was sitting on this thing, but they would be in this box, which is so funny to think of the blueprints of him drawing it up in his office and his kids come in and he has to put a sheet down.

Oh, hey, partner! The most embarrassing architect since Mike Brady. Yeah, what are you doing, Mike? He goes, I'm looking to build a house for AIDS victims. Yeah. I'm looking to build a house. Dad, why are you doing Mikey goes I'm looking I'm looking to build a house for a Why you putting that up why is that wall fucking whole wall of a hole in it Well Greg are you familiar with glory We call it Gloria. Hallelujah. Yeah, I always think it's funny those like sex dungeon things. They have to clean them They do have to clean them because they're also gonna get hep HEPA. But most of them probably have, they design their own, like, especially if they're kidnapping women. I

can't imagine anybody hiring someone to build. Yeah. You have to just cut that. That's a DIY. That was the thing when the Epstein broke that Jay and I would joke around about, about like being Epstein's friend who isn't a pervert. And he's just like at his house and he's like, Hey, Jeff, a lot of priest sons in the fridge. And he goes, don't, house and he's like, Hey Jeff, a lot of priests sons in the fridge. And he goes, don't, don't, don't worry about it. That fridge isn't for you. The drinks are in the other fridge. And he's like, all right, dude, this is,

he's got a lot of little shoes around here. If you're just a regular guy who's friends with. Why all these scrunchies? You're 60. That's why that Jim Downey clip of him on Conan's podcast where he goes Jeffrey Epstein the financier where he acts like he doesn't know what he does he's like the guy in finance but it is like there's there's got to be regular people who have no idea or no connection to that who actually like out of the Epstein log there had to be a couple people that were just legitimately like a lot like the rich guy wants me to go to this party I'm gonna fly down they said one of the Epstein log, there had to be a couple people that were just legitimately like, a lot of like rich guy wants me to go to this party. I'm going to fly down.

They said one of the reasons that some of the, now I'm sure that there's people on that list that are, are, did very bad shit. No, I would, I would guess 80% of those people were, did months like we're monster. They said some of the redactions though were people's requests because they said there were people who had legitimate business interests with him that had nothing to do with anything. Oh God. That their lives would be ruined because of his name.

Dude fucking, your wife comes in she's like you're on the Epstein flight log and you go okay, okay. Wait, hold on. First off. Let me just say. I just want to say. Beautiful island. It was a beautiful island.

We're going to act like the Caribbean's not great. He wasn't even there. He was gone. Also, I had to go down. It was we we we did the Scherzer deal there. He's like doing a thing. She's like, you set fuck. I never care about flight logs unless it like to with him because there's this

rich guys lend their planes out to people all the time. Like, you know, I don't think that Clinton and Kevin Spacey went to Epstein Island and fuck it. Like they were they were going to some event with who's the comic? Oh, my God. Chris. Chris Tucker. Chris Tucker. Yeah, he was with they were just going to some charity event. Like there's certain things that's so funny. And then Chris Tucker's like, man, I didn't have sex with no kids. I fucking can't. Just the way he talks makes him sound guilty. Man, I didn't have sex with no kids. I ain't fuckin' no kids. I ain't fuckin' kids.

And just the way he talks makes him sound guilty. He goes, man, I ain't fuckin' kids. He goes, I think you're fuckin' kids. What are you talkin' about, man? I ain't fuckin' no kids. I ain't fuckin' touchin' your little penises. He goes, just the way you talk, I feel like, I feel like you fucked little kids.

He's like, man, what are you talkin' about? That's so funny, just guilty tone. Yeah, but totally innocent. But completely like, man, what are you talking about? So funny. Just guilty tone. Yeah. But, but totally innocent, but completely innocent. That. Yeah. That is the, and you know, we're all worth, we're so thirsty to like take down everybody that those Epstein logs, you're like, I fucking knew it. But there are celebrities that if I found that out, I kind of want to be kept secret. Like, you know, they

always go like Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberger And you're like please don't I hope not please I hope I need another reason to like Spielberg You guys seen Jim recently he's dressing like Indiana Jones a lot super in a bullwhip now Yeah, dude, it's you don't it's some of the stuff you don't want to get ruined. Right, you don't want to ruin these people. Now, granted, we like Chuck Berry more. Sure. But there were people upset when they found out Chuck Berry pooped on prostitutes. Maybe.

With kids it's different though. Because Chuck Berry was, anything with adults, no matter how kinky or pig-ish, is at least adults. But if it's a kid, it's like, ugh. Inexcusable. You can't look beyond it. There's no one I like that wouldn't bother me with. Yeah, where you'd's like a kid, it's like, uh, inexcusable. You can't, you can't look beyond it. There's no one I liked that I, that wouldn't bother me with. Yeah. Where you'd be like, Jesus Christ. I don't like the Woody Allen thing. Like I love Woody Allen.

He's a comic genius. He's one of the most underrated standups ever. This one incident, did it happen? Uh, if it happened, like, I can't unsee it, but I've been able to convince myself that there's enough plausible deniability. That you can get around. You can. Because again, it was just this one person, he's denying it. And there were criminal investigations. I mean, they looked into it. Can I tell you a great Joe DeRosa story? Sure.

We were, um, we were at, uh, Shane's Halloween party. Katie and I dressed up as the sticky bandits from Home Alone. Everyone else, all the other women there were in like sexy costumes. I had Katie in a bald cap with a fake black tooth and we were dancing. It looked like two dudes dancing on there.

She was dropping her ass on me dressed as fucking Harry. Harry now dressed as Marv from fucking Home Alone. But DeRosa was hitting on a younger, beautiful woman. It was going well, and he was flirting. And Katie and I were observing, because Joe DeRosa, he does have game. He does. Doesn't have a body shape, but he's got game.

For a man shaped like a triangle, DeRosa has good numbers. Yeah, he's got, and by the way, reverse triangle, not the kind you want to be shaped like. It's flip it. So we're watching it, right? And then, you know, Katie is hilarious. She'll talk shit.

Somehow we're off to the side at this party. Woody Allen gets brought up. Joe is hitting on a much younger woman, but like aggressively defending Woody Allen. Joe read your situation. This isn't the time or the place. And he goes, no, no, no, he didn't have sex with that kid. It was so funny watching a younger girl be like, well, what are we talking about? Dude, it was one of my favorite.

And DeRosa loves Woody Allen. So he was like passionate about it. I hope it ain't true. Oh god and watching Katie go Joe not now. Yeah, but he's like, he ain't fuck a kid. He ain't fuck a kid. It's so goddamn funny. I hope he didn't I truly I truly hope not because I love him so much I don't want that to be true. You know, for me, what's, I mean, obviously, pedophilia is the worst, but, you know, a number two, or number three on it, is watching celebrities I love grift politically. Oh, yeah.

Left or right. When I watch them go like, first off, actors shouldn't be telling anybody to vote, because they're all pro liars. You're just pretending to be someone else. Why the fuck do I care what your political opinion is yeah but like I grew up loving Hulk Hogan and then just everything he's done since 2008 you're like damn yeah he just keeps coming with shit where you're like stop I can't even kind of come back I like I like when they don't what you know I don't mind

somebody talking like Henry Winkler yeah who I love he'll talk about it And he goes people say that we shouldn't say anything, but why not like and he makes a logical point But he's not a dick about it. Like if someone's not a dick about it. I don't mind them Sure It's when they start to like there was a great video where Ben Affleck was digging in about Islam and calling people Islamophobic on Bill Marshall Yeah, and the guy he was talking to was an expert That's the best. I mean, you know, I mean like the guy knew everything

Yeah So it's like you gotta know your lane too Like don't think that you're gonna out talk people who do that shit for a living Yeah, when you're sitting next to the guy that you played in a movie, maybe let him talk let him talk Yeah, it was just a fat guy in a fucking button-up shirt.'s like yeah I was in the CIA for 28 years and he's going like I'm gonna tell you what's really going on I was speaking to guys who played movies in awakenings yeah that guy was at the cellar one night and the doctor the doctor and Robin introduced me to him that's crazy can you double check

that make sure he's still alive I'm almost positive that's who it was I'm making sure it wasn't patch Adams I believe it was the guy from Awakenings was at this cellar, or was it Patch Adams? It was one of the, he played a doctor. I hope it was Awakenings, I like that more. Yeah, it's a better movie. That doesn't hold up though. Yeah, what?

I've watched it recently. Awakenings? No, it doesn't. Why? I feel swindled. Yeah. Oh, they just come back to life? Yeah, yeah. That is insane to meet the person that they're based on. Yes. I think I'm almost positive because probably Robin didn't want to talk to me.

Yes. Oh, hello. Have you met Patrick Adams? Oh, oh, he watched a lot of kids die. Oh, there's nothing behind his eyes. You go, oh, fuck, Robin. I had the same manager as him in my and he brought in David Steinberg at one point, and he brought in him and Billy Crystal to watch my set. I was doing a Kimmel warmup, so I had to do a fucking clean set.

It went well, but it was like really uncomfortable. That was like one time, and I'm not a fan of his, but one time, it was right when I started working at the cellar and I was very nervous about doing new material and it was like a Friday. And I had this like new chunk that was working. So I was doing it every set This woman in the middle of my set gets up. I go where are you going? And she goes I'm going to smoke a cigarette I saw you last week. You're doing the same jokes and I was like, oh

So I just pivot quick to like worst jokes. Yeah, and the second I pivot to like be material Esti walks Bill Maher in the room and they just stand there and watch me do mediocre. And I just fucking and then he's like, you know, Bill Maher, even if he's not smarmy, he's smarmy. He seems it. Yeah. And he goes, Hey, good set or whatever. And you're like, shut the fuck up. You fucking did like, I love and I I've had, it's funny. I don't know. I've met Bill. I've interacted with him. I had great success with him. I love bill more Yeah, he's always been nice to me and people like that guy's a dick and then I met him and he couldn't have been fucking I just got him at the right times. He's just old smarmy age. Yeah, he's like is it

For me, it was when he had that hawk to a girl on there and it just looked like he was grooming her I did he's like like, you need advice. You might as well have been rubbing his fucking chest hair. He's like, nah, that's how you spit on it. And you're like, ugh, fucking Bill. That's before the whole meme coin thing, right? Yeah. I'm going to bed.

How? No victims in that crime. There are no victims in that crime. If you got bankrupt by Hawk Toa. You're a stupid asshole. Good. You're a volunteer. Yeah, you shouldn't live bya. You're a stupid asshole. Good. You're a volunteer. Yeah, you shouldn't live by yourself.

You shouldn't fucking drive a car. Yeah. And I'm glad your money got taken. You're an idiot. You're a fucking, if you buy the Hawk Toa coin and you think that that's how you're going to make your fortune, you're a dumb asshole. I'm glad you're broke. Yeah, you deserve to be broke.

I'm going to bed. See, what a hilarious thing to say before you financially just ruin people. Is she going to go to jail or no? No. I don't think there actually is. I don't know what I've read about like specifically this is that she rug pulled. I don't know if it's technically like people watching would know more than I do.

If it's technically illegal, I think she just, it's like frowned down. It's shitty but not illegal. It's like shitty but I don't think like, I think she can get investigated by the SEC but I don't think it's like, I don't know, man but that's just funny. What a funny way to fuck people's lives. I felt bad for her can get investigated by the SEC, but I don't think it's like I don't know man But that's just funny. What a funny way to fuck people's lives I felt bad for her because and by the way, is he alive or no, Mike? Did you look at he's why did he die?

Okay, so my yeah, yeah my this was but that because Robin died in 2014. Yeah, so this might have been in 2010 Yeah, probably was him actually. Oh, this is why I him Awakenings. He goes, stop calling me Awakenings. I have a fucking legal name. Oh, this is Dr. Awakenings. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Hey, I'll get you my pretty. He goes, Jesus Christ. I wish you would go to sleep like some of the fucking people

I worked on. Man, what the hell you doing, man? Oh, I'm sorry, hey. He would always do like the most racist version of a black guy. What it is, you go, they don't even, I haven't talked like that in 40 years. Hey, I'm down. Jesus Christ, Robin.

But when he was on that first night he came in, I mean, again, and recent, this for sure from the early eighties, I was there at Colin. And there's a great picture of with, with Manny and him, uh, in the, uh, did you know Manny? You knew Manny. No, he died before I moved here. Before Manny, this was probably 97, 98. Yeah. And Robin came in and we went down and watched him and it was all stuff that had happened within the last week.

Yeah. It was brilliant, it was so good. Just fast and fucking. I mean, but it was like legit. And then when we came upstairs, Colin goes, oh, he does have a genius streak. Because it was so good. I would kill to watch Colin admit that Robin Williams.

You couldn't deny it. He was so good. Well, he's fast, but he does have a point. He has a genius streak. I love that. The idea of you guys at the table and Colin loving it and being like, ah, fuck. He was just great.

I mean, he was so fast, it was so topical that there was no denying it was just really great off the cuff stuff. Did he sweat like a motherfucker when he did it? I have a picture with him upstairs. It's one of my favorite photos I've ever taken. It's where we're sitting there and the sign says Comedy Cellar Comedians Only.

And he had just come off stage, it's just me and Robin, and I'm a fish eyed boy. Yeah, I'm just a fat bug eyed boy and Robin there. No, it's not it. Now I'm wearing a Robin was wearing. He looked like he was on meth and he was fucking cold and he is sweating. I don't know if you can see in the photo how disgusting and sweaty he was, but he was just dripped, dripping.

Yes. If you Google me and Robin Williams you might find that picture. I think it's online somewhere but man, he was drenched in sweat. What's your favorite celebrity photo that you have? Your number one. Me and all of Black Sabbath together. Me, the original Sabbath together

and they're all in suits holding the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame trophies. There's no fan alive that has that picture. Fucking incredible. I went to the thing, I got in, it's crazy. I fucking hijacked the ceremony. I was asking them real questions at the press conference. Like this before I knew there was 2006,

I actually left the Aspen Comedy Festival a day early because storms were coming, and I'm like, I'm going to this induction. And it was in Cleveland? No, this was back when it was at the Waldorf in New York. Oh shit. And Ron Bennington gave me his ticket because he wasn't going to go. So black girls took this picture.

He's the man. Ron Bennington is for those that if you're, if you don't know you're dumb and if you do know, you know, we're right. Ron Bennington is the fucking man. He's really masterful and he's one of the greatest broadcasters we've ever had. And one of the funniest human beings that ever've ever had and one of the funniest human beings ever walked in. Also on the Epstein Logs.

Yeah. And by the way, ask not to be redacted. Said he was there for the little kids. But then it turned out he wasn't in, but he just got his name in there on purpose. He goes, oh, am I on? Cool. Not even shocked by it. So you got to go and like actually, did they like you were asking real questions?

Yes, I got to the ceremony and I went back, you know what it was that day, earlier that day, Steve Carlesi, our old producer, Tony Iommi had wanted to do a show on Sirius XM. So I went to lunch with Iommi and Steve and Tony Iommi's guy Ralph and the four of us just had lunch across the street from XM. So me and Tony Iommi's guy Ralph. And the four of us just had lunch across the street from XM.

So me and Tony talked for a while. Like, oh yeah, I'm coming tonight. And so I knew that he would recognize me. They walked out on stage, he kinda looked, he saw me. And all these reporters were gonna ask shit questions. So I just jumped up and I started asking questions. Did you have like questions that you? Did it bother you guys that you never got

the critical respect? Like legit questions. Which I have like questions that didn't bother you guys that you never got the critical respect like really legit questions which I bet in that setting they go like because there's other bands there's like a whole other yeah it's like a class you're inducted in yeah them going like this guy fucking gives shit and I had the I have tape of it somewhere it's not great audio but people like come on sit down cuz I was like blocking the cameras and then afterwards I snuck backstage with Earl. Like I just walked backstage.

And I see Tony, and they were all doing separate press. And so I see Tony, and I'm like, hey man, I want to take a quick picture with you guys. He goes, yeah, sure. So we get, oh no, here's what happened. I got a picture with Ozzy, and if you see the picture, he looks fucking sick, because I didn't know him at that point, and he's walking away and I get Tony

Geezer and Bill and I'm like Ozzy and he's walking away. I'm like Tony Could you grab him cuz I'll never have this chance again Yeah, and I only goes Oz Oz and he calls Ozzy back He called Ozzy back and I got my it was so weird to see Ozzy and Bill just chatting is it alright, man I'll call you this week. Yeah, these guys having a real moment and that picture that's unbelievable between the four of them with their trophies that's unbelievable and I got all them to sign it it's on my wall I threw it up this morning fucking believe that's my that's probably the greatest moment of my life but that moment where you get Tony to

go could you help me out and he's like yeah I come back because to him they're in a band like there's still the kids in England. They call in boss back. Oh there is asking God then you look like you're trying to take a mayor down Right now he's like fuck who's this? Asking all the fucking questions. Yeah, that's my that's by far. This there's been bigger celebrities. I got picture like Ali.

I that was a good one. I wish who? Muhammad Ali. Oh, yeah, that's big. I got to spend 40 minutes in this hotel room with him and his wife. This guy, Craig Fox, who ran his company and my manager, Jonathan, at the time. That's the Robin picture. Yeah. But I don't know, that looks backwards.

But he's just dumping sweat right there? Yeah, I don't know if you can tell from this black, it's actually a color photo. But he is, you see the mouth, it looks like he's all fucked up on code. He's like, oh, oh, I'm about to crash. Oh, oh, oh, challenger's about to explode. And you go, oh, fuck, you're on a lot of blow, huh?

He was always quiet when he came in. I really loved him because he never outshone the guys at the table. He came in, he would quietly talk politics. And I arranged for my parents went to see him in Atlantic City. So David, I asked him, my parents would love to meet Robin. And he was so nice to my parents. Oh, you're Jim Norton's parent? He really went out of his way to,

because he knew that it would mean something to them. So I really loved him. I didn't know him well, like I just knew him from being at the Comedy Cellar and talking, but he was a really sweet guy. And the one time when you were there, I mean, the only time I got to meet him, he was very sweet and very like much quieter

than you thought he was gonna be. I think you should scroll down the incident. Oh, you got some, just Jim Norton's. was very sweet and very like much quieter than you thought he was going to be. Oh, you got some pick. Just Jim Norton. Oh yeah. Colin. Colin really lets me. Who's that? Oh my God. I love the Avril Lavigne, Jimmy Buffett, RuPaul, Springer. Oh yeah. You got great ones in here. I got a bunch. Yeah. Carlin is great, but a slash, like Young Slash, Young Statham, you know what's so funny, is seeing the 40 West 57th studio.

Oh yeah. What you don't know about that is I used to work overnights at K-Rock. I do know that. So I used to sleep in that studio. I didn't know that. I used to sleep on that couch where you had the guests. Oh.

And one time fucking, one time E-Rock came in on a Saturday because I would work 6 a.m AM to noon on air on Saturdays. So I would do spots in the city and sleep in the ONA studio at 40 West 57th. And then I wake up and go into the David Lee Roth studio, the side one, that's where I do all my shifts. And I was sleeping on that leather couch,

face to couch or whatever, and, uh, Iraq comes in and flips on the lights. I go, oh shit, sorry, man. I was sleeping. He goes, yeah, I wouldn't sleep on that couch, man. Sandy Kane was pantyless on that thing.

And dude, I went into the bathroom and fucking scrubbed my face. Yeah, it's a bad place to sleep. And I just fucking started sleeping in the old Stern green room because I was like, I'm not fucking sleeping on that couch anymore. I think I remember the Stern green room too. The Stern green room was so when you came out of the 40 West 57th

studio, your guys is the ONA studio. It was the second door on the right. Yeah. Yeah. Red couches. What I remember specifically about the green room is there are people in midtown that are so wealthy. They have houses on top of buildings and no one ever fucking talks about that.

They have suburban houses on the top of skyscrapers. They had them lifted on, right? Yeah. There were like two houses that I would just like sit out and look at and be like, this motherfucker lives in like a regular house on top of a skyscraper. It was crazy to me. It's bizarre. Yeah. That was like me moving to New York and being like,

that's a fucking real thing. But that, yeah, I used to sleep in your guys' studio until fucking Erock told me about Sandy Kane being pantyless on that fucking couch. Yeah, that sofa had some horrible things happen. It fucking did. Also, it reminds me of when everyone got fired. Remember when you guys played the transition

that we were, K-Rock was getting flipped too. It was when you guys left Terrestrial Radio. You guys, I think it was either E-Rock or somebody found the imaging that was like, K-Rock was becoming 92.3 now. And our old program director was like, don't play it. And you guys kept playing it on Opie and Anthony and my music director, Danny called me and she's like, everyone's about to get fired. Yeah.

Like they're clearing everyone out. So I, the little rat that I am, I found out they would honor my, I was getting like after a pay. So I was getting like two 66 a shift, which I needed desperately at the time. And they were like, listen, teach the new top 40 guys, the board, and we'll pay you on air money. So I was like, Oh great. Sure. So the new 92, three now people were coming in. I had long hair. I used to smoke cigarettes in the fucking stairwell. Oh yeah. Yeah. And, uh, dude, I remember I was eating subway watching South park at the board where

Opie used to sit and I had South park piped in through the studios. And I was, remember that big TV you guys had in the back. I was watching South park and the fucking music director came in and he's like, what are you doing? The new music director from the top 40 station. And I was like, watch South park. And he's like, you're supposed to be monitoring the station. And I was like, that's Lady Gaga. That's fine.

And then the next day they're like, you're fired. You don't ever fucking come back. And I was like, you're not needed. Yeah. I was like, okay, I get it. I was like, you know what? I just remember being like mid chicken teriyaki sandwich and him going, what are you doing? And I was like, the watch South Park. You know you're finished when there's a'm going, what are you doing? And I was like, watch this. You never you know, you're finished when there's a change.

What are you doing? My shit leaving. I'm going to fill out the commercial logs and then fuck off for the last time. Make sure you got my cigarettes in the building. I remember you see that any W and my last cigarette that I ever had was a Parliament light. It was our parliament. It was in the any W stairwell. I was going to quit. I'm like, I got to quit.

And I had a home. I'm going to finish this pack. I'll never forget Anthony. He goes, shut this throw the any W stairwell. I was gonna quit. I'm like I gotta quit and I had a whole I'm gonna finish this Pack I'll never forget Anthony. He goes shut this throw the fucking throw him out And I was like, yeah, he's right. So I saved one or I smoked it in that because he had quit But yeah, my last cigarette was in that fucking any W stairwell We see when they're all the time because at K. Rocks stairwell, I remember I always had when I was new It's like oh six or seven At K-Rock's stairwell, I remember I always had, when I was new, it was like 06, 07, I would have to do New Year's, because no one wanted to do New Year's on Free FM

or then K-Rock. So Danny would be like, hey, you need money, do you want to do on air? Would they pay you more? No, same. But then what I would do is I was doing like spots at Stand Up New York, and Rick, the bartender, rest in peace, would give me a bag of beers

that I would just take with me to K-Rock, and then I would just get drunk doing my shift. But I would go smoke cigarettes in the stairwell. And remember Yoda, the old engineer? He like worked at CBS radio. He got fired when all the format changed. If I met him, I don't remember him. He was like an old dude.

He used to work with like Howard Stern's dad at CBS FM. And like he was there for the whole Howard run at K-Rock and then he was there with you guys. And when he got fired everyone was like, they fired fucking Yoda. They're firing everybody. He caught me smoking in the stairwell and was so fucking mad at me.

Really? In a way that only an engineer could get mad. He was like, what are you doing? You don't fucking, this is a radio station. You don't smoke in here, you're gonna damage the equipment. I was like, I was in the fucking stairwell. I was like, shut up. That is an old man angry thing to say.

It was so bad. The lights are gonna get burnt out. So they're not. But that was like the last time I smoked, because I remember using the bathroom in the ONA studio. And that was, remember Howard's old private bathroom that you guys had? And then I was like, well, I gotta take a dump in this.

Because it was like Stern's private fucking bathroom. But that studio was so fucking cool. It was, but I never liked being there. We had some amazing moments. Baby Bird was done in that studio. Oh yeah, yeah. But I didn't like it because it always felt like we always felt like we were. I was like we were interlopers. They're like that

was Stern's old studio. We were on satellite first. And I always felt like we were never truly welcome there, even though they were fine with us. She's not never really like me. I always felt like we were stepping into a shadow there. Yeah. And so why you guys put the window up cuz I really wanted that he put the window the Roth I believe did that not us that one of the engineers told me that David Lee Roth when you guys cuz it was David Lee Roth took over it failed and they brought you guys Yes, and we did well at first but then we were competing against ourselves on satellite

Yeah And David Lee Roth put the engineer told me that when David Lee Roth came in they didn't want to put him in the Stern studio So they put him in the side studio and he was like I got a tap dance I got a tap dance every morning and the guys like Well, we're gonna have to do a hardwood floor. That's not conducive. Yeah kept getting shocked every time you touch the mic so you'd be like And they're like, yeah, it's science, David. And I remember the engineer being like,

that dumbass couldn't get it through his head. He was wearing metal shoes. Yeah, it was so funny. I always thought of that whenever I was in that studio, like they had to remove carpet. And he was like, zibbity dabbity dibbity ow, ow. Every time he touched the fucking mic. I remember I was hosting on Opie and Anthony

one time on satellite. The guys were out, I don't remember why. And it was a very bizarre show. I had David Lee Roth as my co-host, and we interviewed Anderson Silva. It was such, and he didn't speak English. A guy with no English? Yeah, and that tiny sweet voice.

He's like, hi, to us, further. And then he would just knock motherfuckers out. How did the thing come about where UFC fighters would kick you or punch you because you became the guy that would take You took a leg kick from John Jones that hurt me so much. I almost vomited I remember I had the urge to shit and to throw up it set me into a little bit of shock He put his chin in my fucking thigh and I it was fight week too It was a bad, but he also choked me and I remember I went to the bathroom I like I think I'm gonna pass out.

That fucked me up. Did you try to, here's my question. Did you have to try to hide the pain from Opie and Anthony? Never, no, I was never cool. You weren't like, that is fine, I'll walk it off. No, I was like, I would always, we interviewed BJ Penn, and I wanted to see what an armbar felt like, because I'd never experienced it.

So I'm like, these things you watch, what do they feel like on a light scale? So he put me in an armbar, like, because I'd never experienced it. So I'm like, these things you watch, what do they feel like? On a light scale. So he put me in an armbar, I was like, holy fuck. Like I was amazed at how you're being pulled in two different directions and it really hurt. Brock Lesnar heel hooked me. Fuck!

I mean, Brock Lesnar is a Zucodiak bear of a man. Yeah, he's a giant, and he laughed, because he gave me like two leg locks sitting in the chair. Rhonda put me in an arm bar. Who was the first person that kind of kicked that off? We got it was DJ Penn. So you go, Oh, will you do that? And then did it become a thing of the next time someone was in there? I might've been Uriah Faber who punched me or it might have been, I know Rashad Evans or Kane Velasquez. Yeah. Put me in a, he showed me what a guillotine felt like. or Cain Velasquez put me in, he showed me what a guillotine felt like. And this is by the way, UFC obviously now mainstay sport. It's like, this is 15 years ago.

This is when it was still coming up. And if you were into it, it was cool to hear them on Opie and Anthony. And I never, funny, I never had Liddell punch me because I knew Chuck. So I was like, that would be weird. Like Mike Tyson, I never asked to punch me. Man, I had one of the greatest moments of my life because you and Opie with Mike Tyson. It was, I was on Opie and Jim and Mike Tyson came in and I was like you guys were doing that rotating thing with comics. Yes. And I

got to sit there and Mike Tyson walked in and he goes he thought Anthony was gonna be there. It was after Anthony got fired and he walks in he goes who the fuck are you? To me and I went like no one I'm fucking no one. And then he sat down. It was when he was promoting Mike Tyson's mystery machine. And he was like going through the New York Post and he was like talking to you. He was the most comfortable. He wasn't looking at Opie.

He was talking to you. And he was like, yeah Jim, I don't know. He's just like going through the New York Post. And he's like, did you see this? This guy got lit on fire and you guys were talking. And then he like eased up a little bit and he was talking about the cartoon and he kept going, I make it for high guys. I make it for high guys. And he looks at me, he goes, you're a high guy. And I go, I am.

And he's like, yeah, you're a high guy. But then he said the thing. I've always wanted this audio isolated, but he was, we were talking, me and you were talking about doing stand up and one person not laughing in the audience. Yeah. Well, like you're doing well, but there's like two or three people not laughing. And Tyson goes, that always bothered me. I'd walk to the ring and everyone would be cheering me, but someone would be booing me.

And then he looked at me and he goes, it's a bad neighborhood up here and you're all by yourself. And I, and on the air, I go, that's right. Mike Tyson. It was the most honest response I've ever had to somebody. I go, that's right. Mike Tyson. And he goes, it is. I don't know. But it was like, cause of you, I got to meet Tyson. I got to meet CM punk right after he left the WWE. It was fucking great.

I'm going to look for that. If you remind me, I'll try to, I have a few, I used to save all those old interviews interviews I did the videos and I may have I have a few of the Tyson interviews I don't remember that one if I have I do I could fucking probably give you the date Because I think I have an Instagram picture because I took a picture with Mike Tyson But Tim walking in just go show me the picture later. If you show me the outfit he wore Yeah, did he have the white sweater on? No, he had a black shirt and a black leather jacket on. And he came in, but I'll never forget him going,

who the fuck are you? And my nuts went into my body in a way. I'm Danny Mike, I'm Danny. I'm Danny, you can own me, you can wear me like a condom if you wanted to. He was such a, I like Tye, he's one of my favorite people to interview because he's so genuine. He says such smart shit about being in self-reflection and introspection and all this stuff and he's really into discussing his demons and what's wrong with him for real.

I think that episode he was talking about being on the highway in a car accident and he had like a duffel bag full of coke and he had to like leave and he was like, I don't know, I had like a couple keys or whatever and you're like, Jesus Christ. Did you ever read his biography? It's called Undisputed or Undisputable? Yeah. Undisputed. Somewhere around here, but it's unbelievable.

It's unbelievable about, I'd bother you how many Colin Quinn books I have. How much would you hate me if I thought I could improv but couldn't and I was doing things like oh yeah I go oh Jesus Christ you leave and I look at Mike and I go can you edit around it? Yeah he stays, why is he improv? I don't know you remember that thing about watching your hero's age out? I go, that just happened. Oh, look at that. Oh no, I'm here. Oh no. I'm a pig. I go, oh fuck. Oh fuck, Jim's lost it.

Jim's slipping. Oh, Jim is not a good impromptu at all. Dude, I mean. Hold on, brother. I'm a shoulder wrestler. I go, oh fuck. You look over, I'm cutting myself. Please stop it.

Please. You did the shoulder wrestler thing eight times and no one laughed. And it never hit hit it wasn't funny. It didn't hit Dude, I honestly man. Thank you for doing this podcast. I'm happy to do it. I think you're great I think you're you know, you're one of my heroes. Oh, yeah. Thank you like you and opiate Anthony and and tough crowds specifically are the reason I Wanted to be a New York comedian. You guys were always, I thought, the funniest. I thought you guys were always the most honest and sincere.

And I think that means a lot for like a fan of comedy. But the new advice podcast is awesome. Thank you. You're the man. Jim Norton. Go watch his podcasts. Go follow him. Go watch all the specials. It's called Jim Norton. Can't save you. See, you gotta get the plug in. I hate it. I hated that