Solved Murders - True Crime Stories - Real-Life Cases of Pure Evil

Episode Date: June 14, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 By early March of 2019, the situation had spiraled completely out of control. Kelsey Turner's Las Vegas life, which had once seemed like a glamorous social media fantasy, had morphed into something much darker, much more dangerous. The house she claimed to live in with her child alone was no longer a safe or stable environment, it had become a chaotic, almost warzone-like stage where control, power, and fear collided. There were multiple people living there besides her, her boyfriend, Logan, Jeremy, Diana Payna, and the partner of Jeremy. The child, ostensibly the innocent center of Kelsey's life, was surrounded by tension, fear, and manipulation. Nothing made sense
Starting point is 00:00:43 anymore, and the delicate illusion she had created for Thomas, the elderly man whose generosity she had manipulated for months, was unraveling in real time. It was at this point that Thomas Busschard, the man who had believed he was helping a struggling young mother and her decided he had had enough. He resolved to cut the flow to end the financial support that Kelsey had been siphoning for months. But the announcement didn't resolve the situation, it detonated it. Over the next 24 hours, the house descended into utter chaos. Some accounts suggest Thomas tried to leave calmly, hoping Kelsey would accept it without confrontation. Other reports claim that tensions only escalated, that the house was a powder keg waiting for a spark,
Starting point is 00:01:30 and that Kelsey, never one to accept limits, had reached her breaking point. By the night of March 2, 2019, the situation erupted. Kelsey confronted Thomas directly in a violent, aggressive manner. Screaming filled the house, threats flew like projectiles, and respect, basic, human respect, was abandoned entirely. Her child, only four years old, witnessed some of the confrontation. Diana, seeing the potential psychological harm, immediately intervened, scooping up the child and taking him to a friend's house for safety.
Starting point is 00:02:08 She knew the images the child had already witnessed were unsuitable, traumatic, and dangerous. But when she returned to the house, hoping the situation had cooled, she found it had only escalated. Kelsey's rage showed no signs of stopping. Thomas had retreated to the child's bedroom, attempting to shield himself from the chaos, but Kelsey was relentless. She instructed her boyfriend Logan to physically assault Thomas, to break down the door and teach him a lesson. Logan complied.
Starting point is 00:02:41 He entered the room, delivering blows to Thomas, causing him to bleed and beg for mercy. Diana, witnessing the brutality, intervened. placing herself between the attacker and Thomas. Logan paused, but Kelsey's screaming and demands intensified. She urged him to continue, to finish the job, escalating the violence further. In the midst of this chaos, Diana tried to regain control of the situation. She lifted Thomas, carefully moving him to the garage, intending to put him in Kelsey's car so they could seek medical attention.
Starting point is 00:03:18 But Kelsey, still shouting, refused to cooperate. She refused to drive, refused to calm down, consumed entirely by anger, manipulation, and the need to assert control. Eventually, through a tense negotiation, Diana convinced her to at least allow Thomas to be transported, but the peace was temporary, fragile, and deceptive. When Diana went upstairs to clean the blood and regain some semblance of order, she heard the screams again. She rushed back down to discover an even more horrifying scene, Logan had armed himself with a baseball bat and was striking Thomas repeatedly, leaving him unconscious. Kelsey, rather than intervening or expressing concern,
Starting point is 00:04:02 was actively encouraging the violence, burging him to strike harder, to inflict fatal harm. Diana, trapped in this nightmarish scenario, could do little but intervene physically, separating Logan from Thomas, but even that was only momentarily effective. Thomas, battered and barely conscious, was now completely at the mercy of Kelsey and her accomplices. The three of them, Kelsey, Logan, and Diana under duress, moved him into a car and began driving away, intent on retrieving Kelsey's child from the separate location where Diana had taken him. The tension in the vehicle was palpable. Every movement, every glance, every word carried the weight of fear, guilt, and complicity.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Meanwhile, back in California, Judy, Thomas's partner, realized something was terribly wrong. Thomas was supposed to return home that night, but he never did. Alarmed and desperate for answers, she contacted the authorities on March 4, 2019. The police began their search immediately, combing through records, tracking potential locations, and coordinating with local law enforcement. The house in Las Vegas was empty, eerily quiet, and for days, all attempts to locate Kelsey, Thomas, or any of the others failed. Then, on March 7, 2019, a breakthrough came.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Someone called 911, reporting a suspicious vehicle, a Mercedes with a broken window, abandoned in a desolate area. Police arrived on the scene, traced the license plate to Thomas Buschard, and opened the trunk. What they found shocked them, and the world. Thomas's body lay there, lifeless, the victim of a brutal assault orchestrated and encouraged by Kelsey Turner and her associates. News of the discovery spread quickly, dominating media headlines across the country. In the days that followed, Diana Payna went to the police station. She recounted the full ordeal, the coercion, the threats, the physical abuse she had witnessed, and the manipulation she had endured.
Starting point is 00:06:13 She explained that Kelsey had made her feel complicit, that she had no choice but to comply, but ultimately, she managed to escape and tell her story. Her testimony was invaluable, providing a detailed account of the sequence of events that led to Thomas's death. Despite this, Kelsey and her boyfriend Logan remained at large for nearly three weeks. They moved between motels, stayed on the run, and avoided detection while authorities piece together the details of the crime. When they were finally apprehended, law enforcement believed the case would reach a definitive conclusion. Logan, as the direct perpetrator of the physical assault,
Starting point is 00:06:54 faced the most severe charges, while Kelsey, as the orchestrator and manipulator, was also prepared for trial. Once in custody, Kelsey continued to attract public attention. She entered prison while pregnant, and media outlets covered every development obsessively. Her story, already sensational, became even more publicized as she gave birth behind bars. In an astonishing move, Kelsey created an online profile on Love a Prisoner, reaching out to supporters and pen pals, continuing to build a persona that blurred the lines between criminality and celebrity. Fan clubs emerged, social media platforms amplified her story, and she even became slated to appear on reality television, though the episode never aired due to legal constraints
Starting point is 00:07:42 and the unresolved nature of her case. The trial itself shocked many. Kelsey received a sentence ranging from 10 to 25 years in prison, reflecting her role in orchestrating, manipulating, and encouraging the violence that led to Thomas's death. Logan, as the individual who physically committed the assault, was sentenced to 18 to 45 years, reflecting the direct responsibility for the murder. Diana Payna, as a coerced accomplice, received three years of probation, acknowledging her limited but complicit role in the events.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Public opinion was divided, some believed the sentences were appropriate, others argued they were too lenient given the brutality of the crime. The aftermath of the case left a lasting impact on everyone involved. Thomas's reputation, painstakingly built over decades as a respected psychiatrist and community member, was irrevocably tarnished by the public nature of his death, despite the circumstances of manipulation and deception that led to it. Kelsey Turner, meanwhile, became infamous, a case study in manipulation, social engineering, and the dark intersections of wealth, trust, and deception. Her story, simultaneously tragic, sensational, and cautionary, became a topic
Starting point is 00:09:00 of public fascination, media coverage, and legal discussion. Even after sentencing, discussions about Kelsey's motivations, methods, and the psychological dynamics at play continued to circulate online. Analysts debated her use of social media, her manipulative strategies, and the ethical implications of her actions. Psychologists speculated about her personality traits, narcissism, compulsive lying, and strategic exploitation of trust and generosity. Meanwhile, ordinary people engaged with her story in forums, YouTube commentaries, and social media posts, debating the morality, the justice, and the broader implications for society.
Starting point is 00:09:45 In retrospect, the entire chain of events, from Kelsey's early ambition and social media rise to her lethal manipulation of Thomas Bustchard, illustrates a complex web of human behavior, psychological manipulation, and the consequences of unchecked ambition. Kelsey's story serves as a cautionary tale, the seduction of wealth, fame, and power can drive individuals to extreme, morally corrupt behaviors, while the vulnerable, well-intentioned, or trusting individuals around them can become collateral damage in ways that are both tragic and irreversible. By the end of the case, Kelsey Turner had achieved notoriety but at an unimaginable cost. Her public persona, meticulously curated for years on Instagram and other social media platforms, had facilitated her manipulation but also laid the groundwork for her ultimate exposure.
Starting point is 00:10:37 The legal system, while ultimately securing convictions, could not undo the devastation, fear, and loss that marked the lives of Thomas Bouchard, his family, and the peripheral victims caught in the chaos. Now, it is up to the public, the observers, and the analysts to reflect, what does justice look like in a case where manipulation, greed, and deception intersect with vulnerability? and trust. Was the sentence for Kelsey Turner sufficient, or was it overshadowed by her charisma, public persona, and media fascination? Does the story of Kelsey Turner teach us about the dangers of social media influence, the vulnerabilities of the elderly, or the dark
Starting point is 00:11:18 path's ambition can carve? These are questions that linger, unresolved, long after the headlines fade. The story, brutal and shocking as it is, also reminds us that appearances can be deceiving. The glamorous life Kelsey displayed online was a meticulously constructed facade. The reality behind closed doors, the threats, the violence, the manipulation, was far darker and more complex. And for every sensational headline, there are human lives profoundly affected, shattered trust, and consequences that cannot be reversed. Ultimately, the Kelsey Turner case stands as a cautionary narrative of ambition, manipulation, and moral collapse, a modern tragedy framed in the digital age. It illustrates the peril of
Starting point is 00:12:07 unchecked desire, the vulnerabilities of human trust, and the lethal potential when charm and manipulation converge with greed and recklessness. It's a story that fascinates, horrifies, and challenges us to consider the fragile boundaries between perception and reality, influence and exploitation, trust and betrayal. The end, the tragic morning of July 11, 2019, a family torn apart. It was early in the morning of July 11, 2019, when the police arrived at a woman named Lori's house. What they found inside was something no one could have prepared for.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Her husband, Charles, was lying lifeless in the living room. Nearby was Alex, Lori's brother, who had witnessed some of the chaos. But Laurie herself and her children were nowhere to be seen inside the house. At that moment, the family was living separately, Charles and Laurie had been having repeated disagreements over the past several months, to the point where they were considering divorce. Minutes before the police arrived, Lori had been getting her seven-year-old son ready for school. He was lovingly nicknamed JJ after his initials. JJ was her adopted child with Charles. Her eldest child, a 16-year-old girl named TYY, was from a previous relationship,
Starting point is 00:13:31 and she was still asleep in the house that morning along with Alex. Charles arrived at the house around 7.30 a.m. He spent a few minutes talking to Lori while JJ finished getting ready. Once JJ was dressed and ready, the two of them headed toward the car. But before they could drive off, Charles realized he had left his cell phone on the living room table. He decided to go back inside to retrieve it, and that's when everything escalated. Laurie was standing there with her phone in hand, scrolling through her messages. She knew he had been cheating on her, and the evidence was right in front of her.
Starting point is 00:14:11 When Charles saw what she was doing, his face turned bright red. He began shouting uncontrollably, demanding she hand over the phone. Panic and anger flooded the room. Laurie began pacing the living room, phone in hand, checking each conversation one by one. Charles's anger only intensified. The argument grew louder and more chaotic until Alex and T.Y.Y., awakened by the commotion, came to see what was happening. Alex tried to intervene, attempting to separate Lori from Charles.
Starting point is 00:14:45 But T.Y.W. In her own desperate and panicked way, ran to her room and grabbed a baseball bat, aiming to strike her stepfather. Charles reacted immediately, lunging at her and wrenching the bat from her hand. TYYY lost her balance and fell to the floor. Alex, seeing this, struggled with Charles, trying to get the bat back. Lori screamed for her daughter to run to the car with JJ. TY-Y-Y bolted, jumped into the car, and locked the doors. Charles, in a fit of rage, struck Alex in the back of the neck with the bat.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Alex ran to retrieve a firearm while Lori attempted to escape. In the chaos, two gunshots rang out. Soon after, Lori emerged from the house and went to the car to console her children. This version of events comes from Lori's statements to the police, as well as her children's testimonies. But the question remains, was this truly what happened that morning? Understanding the family dynamics. To understand this case, we have to look at the structure of this family, a blended family
Starting point is 00:15:56 with a complex history. I'll focus only on the most crucial members, because otherwise it gets confusing fast. Laurie Norrin Cox was born in 1973 in Loma Linda, California. She grew up in the Mormon faith and had a strong interest in beauty pageants. She was very successful in them, praised for her beauty and poise. Laurie married multiple times throughout her life. Her first marriage was at 19.
Starting point is 00:16:26 to her high school boyfriend, but it ended when she was 22. Her second marriage resulted in a son named Colby. That marriage lasted around three years. By 2001, at age 28, Lorry married Joseph, moving in with him along with Colby, who was five years old at the time. Joseph became close to Colby and eventually adopted him. A year into the marriage, Lori gave birth to a daughter named TYY. In Initially, Joseph presented himself as sweet and generous, but over time he became a controlling and abusive husband and father. The marriage lasted roughly four years, ending bitterly with Laurie fighting for custody of Colby and TYYY.
Starting point is 00:17:11 She won custody, but the trauma left marks. Colby later revealed that Joseph had abused him when he was eight years old. Laurie reportedly suffered a mental breakdown at this revelation, and she turned to the church for solace. During these difficult years, Lori grew close to her brother Alex, who took on the role of protector, seeing his sister's struggle firsthand. While Lori claimed Joseph had abused Colby, there's no documentation confirming an official report, and Joseph never served prison time for this alleged abuse.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Alex, however, learned about what Joseph did to his nephew and retaliated by attacking Joseph with a stunned gun in the groin. Joseph pressed charges, and Alex served 90 days in jail. Enter Charles A year after the divorce with Joseph, Lorry married Charles, the man who would later be found dead in this story. Charles was not originally Mormon but converted to the faith to marry Lorry, making him her fourth husband. At the time of their marriage, Colby was 10, and T.Y.Y was 4. Charles also had children from previous marriages, though they were grown and did not live with the family.
Starting point is 00:18:26 In 2013, Laurie and Charles adopted JJ, his real name was Jason Jackson. This adoption aimed to give JJ a better life, as he was the son of Charles' nephew, who struggled with substance abuse. JJ had been in intensive care for a long period after birth, but thankfully recovered. The Morning of the Incident Returning to July 11, 2019, the morning had started like any other, with routine and small chores. Laurie was focused on getting JJ ready, Charles was preparing to take him to school,
Starting point is 00:19:03 and the tensions between Lori and Charles were simmering just beneath the surface. The moment Charles returned for his phone, the powder keg exploded. The details Lori provided to police tell of escalating anger, miscommunication, and panic. But as investigators know, trauma alters perception. Children's statements, adult recollections, and even sibling interventions must all be interpreted cautiously. TYY's actions, grabbing a bat to defend her mother, added another layer of complexity. It's easy to judge from afar, but imagine a 16-year-old child, caught between parental conflict
Starting point is 00:19:44 and fear for her younger brother. Her instincts were protective, impulsive, and raw. Alex, trying to protect both Lori and TYY, entered into the fray, resulting in more physical struggle. And when guns were introduced, the chaos became lethal. Layers of dysfunction. Understanding this family requires more than just the events of one morning. Laurie's history of multiple marriages, experiences with abuse, and complicated custody battles shaped the environment in which JJ, TYY, and Colby were raised. Charles's temper and controlling tendencies compounded tensions. The house was a pressure cooker, a mix of unresolved past trauma, ongoing conflicts, and the ordinary stresses of a blended family.
Starting point is 00:20:35 By July 11, 2019, the situation was volatile, and small triggers had the potential to erupt into disaster. The Children's Perspective J.J., the youngest, was just seven. He had no understanding of legalities, past abuse, or adult conflicts. All he knew was fear, the yelling, the shouting, the physicality. TY.Y. at 16, had a more developed understanding but was still a child, caught in the middle. Alex, the protective uncle, tried to manage the chaos but was ultimately powerless to control the events. Laurie's perspective, shaped by years of trauma and anxiety over abusive partners,
Starting point is 00:21:21 added tension to the situation. She was trying to protect her children while navigating. her own fear. The arrival of law enforcement at the house was both relief and validation, finally, someone outside the family could intervene. The aftermath. Police reports corroborated some of Laurie's statements, Charles was deceased, Alex had been injured, and Laurie's children were safe. The legal and investigative process aimed to determine the sequence of events, responsibility, and potential charges. But beyond the facts, the human dimension remained, a mother trying to protect her children, a brother acting out of loyalty,
Starting point is 00:22:02 and a child forced into an unimaginable situation. The story of Laurie, Charles, Alex, and the children is a case study in family complexity, trauma, and the tragic consequences of unresolved conflict. It shows how past abuse, repeated marital failures, and the pressures of blended family life can culminate in moments of extreme violence. Reflection Looking at this story, it's tempting to assign blame to one person, to simplify the chaos into a narrative of good versus evil. But real life is messier.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Trauma accumulates, stress magnifies, and children are caught in the crossfire. Every member of this family was shaped by past events, and those events influenced decisions, reactions, and the tragic outcome. Laurie's resilience, despite the challenges, is notable. She navigated multiple marriages, custody battles, and the threat of violence while trying to care for her children. Her history with Joseph, Charles, and Alex illustrates the difficulty of balancing personal safety, familial loyalty, and moral responsibility in high-stress environments.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Conclusion The morning of July 11, 2019, represents a convergence of decades-long trauma, family dynamics, and human error. While police reports provide facts, the human story is far more nuanced. It's a story of survival, fear, loyalty, and the fragility of life. The events of that day will forever be etched in the memories of those involved, particularly the children, whose innocence was shattered by circumstances beyond their control. Understanding this case requires compassion, attention to detail, and acknowledgement of the long history that preceded that fateful morning.
Starting point is 00:23:59 It's a sobering reminder that family, while a source of love, can also be a stage for tragedy when past wounds remain unhealed. To be continued, the story of Laurie, Charles, and the cult of doom. Life doesn't always play. out the way people dream it will. In the beginning, things seemed almost normal, but if you look back carefully, there were already cracks in the foundation, tiny signs that would later become huge, dangerous rifts. This story begins with a little boy named JJ. JJ came into the world with struggles right from birth. His health wasn't the best,
Starting point is 00:24:39 and because of his parents' situation, he couldn't grow up with them. That's when Charles and Laurie stepped in and offered to raise him like their own. At first, it sounded like the most generous act ever, saving a child who otherwise might have bounced from place to place. But raising JJ was never going to be simple. From the very start, his needs were different. He had medical challenges, and as he got older, he was officially diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder. That diagnosis changed everything. J.J. needed constant support in school and in daily life. He wasn't like other kids who could just adapt and run free without much help. To make his world easier, Charles and Lorry even got him a service dog,
Starting point is 00:25:26 a loyal companion who quickly became more than just an animal, he was part of the family. Colby and Tiley, the kids from Lorry's previous relationships, completely fell in love with their new little brother. They treated him like a treasure, a tiny piece of joy they wanted to protect. J.J. was the baby of the family, and naturally, he became everyone's favorite. His siblings were protective, affectionate, and proud of him. For a while, everything seemed to be working. Then came the move to Hawaii. The family packed up their lives and left for what should have been a paradise. But paradise has a strange way of exposing the shadows people try to hide. That's where the first cracks in Laurie and Charles's marriage started showing.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Laurie had always been religious. That wasn't new. But in Hawaii, her devotion deepened in a way that made Charles nervous. It wasn't just about going to church on Sundays. Laurie practically lived in the temple. She went every single day, decorated the house with pictures of temples, and spoke endlessly about spiritual visions. She didn't just talk about God in general terms, she got into specifics.
Starting point is 00:26:47 She claimed she could see spirits walking through walls. She said she heard voices at night, voices of angels who supposedly woke her up to assign her divine missions. She insisted she had been chosen for some cosmic purpose. Charles tried to be supportive. He didn't want to crush her beliefs. But deep down, he couldn't shake her. the feeling that Laurie was going way too far. Her spirituality was shifting into something extreme, and while he listened and nodded, the worry in his chest grew heavier each day.
Starting point is 00:27:22 After three years in Hawaii, the family moved back to Arizona. By then, Colby, Lori's son from her first marriage, was old enough to live on his own. He moved to a college campus, where he met a girl who later became his wife. That should have been a happy moment for Lori, a son finding love and starting a family. But for Laurie, it was a problem. Why? Because the girl Colby married wasn't Mormon. She was Christian.
Starting point is 00:27:53 That difference in faith aid at Lori. She had always wanted her children to stay within the Mormon path, and this marriage felt like a betrayal to her ideals. The resentment she carried toward Colby and his wife lingered like a storm cloud, poisoning what should have been a joyful chapter. Meanwhile, Laurie's obsession with the end of the world grew darker. She didn't just believe the apocalypse was coming, she prepared for it obsessively. She filled her home with canned food and survival supplies, certain that doomsday was around
Starting point is 00:28:26 the corner. To people around her, Laurie's obsession wasn't just odd, it was disturbing. She confided to church friends that the fear of the end times was so overwhelming that sometimes she thought about putting her kids in a car and driving off a cliff, just to spare them from the suffering she believed was inevitable. That single thought alone should have set off alarms everywhere. And then came Alex. Lorry's brother, Alex Cox, was more than just family. He was her partner in these spiraling beliefs. Together, they started diving into religious podcasts, particularly ones that focused on apocalyptic themes. And that's how Laurie stumbled upon Chad DeBell.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Chad was a Mormon author who had written an entire series of books about the second coming of Christ and the apocalypse. He claimed to be a prophet, handpicked by God himself to deliver divine warnings. On paper, he was a married man with five kids. But in his world, he wasn't just an author. He was something much more, at least, that's what he told people. Chad said he had lived 31 previous lives, not just on Earth, but on different planets. He said he could hear divine voices guiding him, telling him what to write, what to say, and how to prepare humanity for the end. To someone already obsessed with spirituality and the apocalypse, Chad's message was like fuel on a fire.
Starting point is 00:29:57 In 2018, Lori attended a preparation event. These gatherings were basically training sessions for people who wanted to learn how to be saved during the final judgment. That was the first time Lori and Chad met face-to-face. And according to Chad, the moment he saw her, he recognized her soul. He told Lori that they had been married in seven previous lifetimes. 7. To Laurie, who was already primed to believe in divine destinies and cosmic missions, this wasn't just flattery.
Starting point is 00:30:33 It was confirmation. She was special. She was chosen. And Chad was the proof. From there, things escalated fast. Lori and Chad started communicating constantly. Their conversations turned into secret meetings, and before long, they were lovers. It didn't stop at an affair.
Starting point is 00:30:58 They started appearing together on podcasts, preaching about their visions, their beliefs, and their version of the apocalypse. Slowly, they built a following. Friends, family members, and strangers online were drawn into their circle. The group didn't have an official name, but outsiders soon started calling it the apocalyptic cult. To understand just how dangerous their message was, you know, need to know a little about Mormon beliefs. Mainstream Mormonism does talk about the second coming of Jesus and an eventual apocalypse. But what Chad and Laurie did was twist those ideas to extremes. Chad began predicting specific dates. He told his followers that the world would end on
Starting point is 00:31:44 July 22, 2020. He even gave numbers, saying only 144,000 chosen people would survive the judgment. That kind of precision, paired with his confidence, terrified many Mormons. Fear is powerful, and Chad knew exactly how to use it. He also claimed he had a supernatural ability, he could tell who had light in their soul and who was consumed by darkness. He created a kind of spiritual, rating system, labeling people as either beings of light or beings of dark. And of course, he insisted that Laurie and a few select members of their group were the
Starting point is 00:32:23 only ones capable of helping him save the lost. They began holding bizarre ceremonies they called castings. During these rituals, they prayed and performed symbolic acts to drive out evil spirits. According to them, these ceremonies could cleanse people who were dark and bring them into the light. It sounded holy on the surface, but underneath, it was manipulation at its purest form. gave Chad and Laurie their trust, their loyalty, and in some cases, their lives. And this was only the beginning. To be continued, the fall of Charles and the rise of the
Starting point is 00:33:04 apocalyptic cult. When people first heard about Laurie and Chad's so-called castings, it all sounded strange but almost harmless. A little bizarre religious ritual here, a prayer gathering there, it was the kind of thing you might roll your eyes at and think. like, okay, that's weird, but people believe all sorts of things, right? But the more you looked into it, the scarier it became. These castings were supposed to be about light and darkness. According to Laurie and Chad, if someone was struggling, mentally, spiritually, or even just living in a way that the group didn't approve of, they could be put through a casting.
Starting point is 00:33:46 During the ceremony, members of the cult would pray over them, calling on divine powers to push away evil spirits. If the ritual worked, the person would be cleansed. They'd transform into what Laurie called a being of light. Saved. Pure. A sole fit for the end times. But if it didn't work.
Starting point is 00:34:10 That's where things got terrifying. Laurie and Chad preached that if the darkness inside a person was too strong, then the spirit of evil would win. That soul was permanently corrupted. And the only way to get rid of that evil, according to them, was to, well, get rid of the person entirely. Yeah. In their twisted logic, the solution wasn't therapy, prayer, or forgiveness. It was death. That's how they trapped people. First, with fear. Fear of the apocalypse, fear of being left behind. fear of losing their families. And then, with false hope,
Starting point is 00:34:53 they positioned themselves as the heroes who could protect you, the ones who had the tools to guarantee your salvation. And people bought it. These casting started getting more popular. Before long, it wasn't just face-to-face rituals. They were hosting them over Zoom. Followers would drag their spouses, their children, their friends,
Starting point is 00:35:17 anyone they thought was slipping into darkness, into these sessions. It was a full-on spiritual intervention, except the stakes weren't about rehab or reconciliation. In their eyes, it was literally life or death. That's how dangerous belief can become when it's twisted by the wrong people. But while Laurie and Chad were building this apocalyptic brand, their personal lives were falling apart. Both of them were married, Lori to Charles, and Chad to his wife, Tammy. Naturally, a cult romance didn't exactly sit well with their families. At one point, a woman in the cult even told Lori straight up,
Starting point is 00:36:01 You and Chad should divorce your spouses. You belong together. Lori didn't even hesitate. She told the woman that she and Chad were bound for eternity through a spiritual covenant, that they'd been married in multiple past lives. As for Charles and Tammy? Well, she claimed that God had a different destiny waiting for them. Which, knowing what we know now, sends a chill down your spine.
Starting point is 00:36:30 January 2019 By the beginning of 2019, Charles had reached his breaking point. He loved his wife, but her beliefs were spinning out of control. One day, he sat Lori down. and begged her to see a psychologist. He told her he was worried about her mental health, worried about how far she was taking all this. She flat out refused. Instead, Laurie flipped the script. She called up her relatives and told them she'd discovered Charles had been cheating on her for years. To her family, she painted herself as the victim,
Starting point is 00:37:09 the heartbroken wife. Meanwhile, Charles was sending desperate emails to Laurie's relatives, pleading with them to step in and help. In those emails, he explained the truth, Laurie was not well. She was hearing voices, claiming to be a reincarnated goddess, convinced she had supernatural powers. He wasn't exaggerating. He was scared, for her, for their kids, and for himself. It turned into a tug of war. Charles begging for people to see the reality, Lori convincing those same people that Charles was just angry and making things up because she had caught him cheating. Then came the breaking point. Charles had to travel for work, a quick trip to Houston. But when he came back home, his life had been flipped upside down.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Everything, his clothes, his computer, even his truck, was gone. Lorry had taken it all. On top of that, she drained more than $5,000 from their joint bank account and disappeared with Tiley and JJ. Charles panicked. He called the police and reported the theft. When the officers showed up, he told them everything, that Laurie believed she was a god, that she claimed he wasn't even really Charles anymore. In her mind, he had been possessed by an evil spirit named Ned Schneider. That was the name Chad, Lori, and her brother Alex had supposedly given to one of the demons. Charles told the cop straight up,
Starting point is 00:38:47 I'm afraid she's going to hurt me or the kids. She says if anyone gets in her way, she'll kill them. The officers searched the house. Empty. No Lori, no kids. And then came the kicker, the police told him they couldn't do anything. Because Lori was the mother of the children, technically, she hadn't committed a crime by taking them.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Imagine that. You're standing there, terrified your wife might actually harm your children, and the people you turn to for help shrug their shoulders. Charles refused to give up. He waited outside JJ's school until he saw Lori show up. Desperate, he snatched her purse and keys, hoping to stall her long enough for help to arrive. But Lori had a backup set of keys. She jumped in her car and sped off.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Both of them ended up at the police station, filing complaints against each other. Charles begged the officers to admit Lori into psychiatric care. He wasn't trying to punish her, he was trying to save her. When the cops interviewed Lori, she was calm. Smooth. She told them the same story she told her family, that she'd left Charles because of his infidelity. She didn't rant about spirits or demons. She kept it simple, almost boring.
Starting point is 00:40:16 The officers bought it. To be safe, they suggested she go in for a psychiatric evaluation. Lori agreed. She walked involuntarily, smiled through the questions, and walked right back out. No hospitalization. No consequences. Meanwhile, Charles was unraveling. He filed for divorce, cited.
Starting point is 00:40:42 everything she'd done, the theft, the threats, the belief that she could kill him with her powers. He even requested a restraining order, and it was granted. In his petition, he made one thing very clear, he feared for his life and for the safety of their kids. There was more. Charles had a life insurance policy worth $1 million, and Laurie was listed as the sole beneficiary. Given her threats, he made a drastic move, he changed the beneficiary to his sister, K. If anything happened to him, Lori wouldn't see a dime. But for some reason, maybe love, maybe hope, maybe desperation, when Laurie reappeared after nearly two months in hiding, Charles relented. He withdrew the restraining order.
Starting point is 00:41:32 He told her he wanted to try again. He even rented a separate house for Lori, Thailand. and JJ, so they'd have space while they worked through their issues. Charles tried. He really did. He wanted to bring her back to reality. But then, he discovered the affair. He stumbled across emails, emails supposedly sent from his own account, arranging meetings with Chad. The excuse was that they were working on a book together. But Charles knew better. He hadn't written the those emails. Laurie had. She'd been impersonating him to hide the truth. If Chad's wife Tammy
Starting point is 00:42:15 ever saw the messages, she'd think it was just business. A collaboration. Nothing to worry about. But Charles wasn't fooled. He tracked down Tammy's email address and sent her a message, exposing the affair. Whether she believed him or not, will never fully know. we do know is that Charles confronted Laurie. He told her he knew about the affair, and he threatened to tell Tammy face to face. Meanwhile, inside the cult's inner circle, Lori was making a different kind of request. She often asked members to pray for Charles's soul, which, considering everything else she'd said, that he was possessed, that he was a demon, wasn't exactly a comforting thought. The stage was set, and the danger
Starting point is 00:43:08 was closing in. To be continued, the story of Laurie, Charles, and the vanishing children. Laurie had always been the kind of woman who wrapped everything in religious talk, prayers, and strange spiritual claims. For years, she would ask people in her circle to pray for the soul of her husband Charles. At first, that seemed normal enough, married couples hit rough patches, and maybe she thought prayers would fix whatever was wrong between them. But then, one day, she shifted her tune completely.
Starting point is 00:43:43 She started telling people Charles wasn't just troubled or misguided anymore, she said he had gone beyond saving. According to Laurie, he had actually become a, zombie. And in her world, a, zombie didn't mean the pop culture image of a rotting corpse wandering around eating brains. In her twisted vocabulary, being a zombie meant your soul was gone, taken over by some dark force, and the only way to set you free was to destroy your body. In other words, if someone was declared a zombie, then death was the only solution.
Starting point is 00:44:18 People around her knew exactly what that meant, even if they never wanted to admit it out loud. The death of Charles On the morning of July 11th, everything came to a head. Alex, Lori's brother, ended up pulling the trigger on Charles. He shot him in the chest, and not long after, called the police to report what happened. Now here's the part that blows most people's minds. Almost immediately after Charles went down, Lorry didn't panic, she didn't cry, she didn't even stay put to explain things.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Instead, she calmly gathered her kids, loaded them into the car, and drove away before the cops even got there. Where did she take them? To Burger King. That's right. Her husband had just been shot dead in their home, and Laurie was buying her kids' fries and nuggets like it was just another casual day. After the pit stop, she dropped little JJ off at school as if nothing in the world had gone wrong, then swung by a Walgreens to pick up a few random items. Only after all that did she finally return to the crime scene.
Starting point is 00:45:28 By then, Alex was already talking to police. When the officers started asking questions, Lori, Alex, and her daughter Tiley all told the same story, Charles had attacked them first, and Alex had no choice but to defend himself. Alex even had some marks on the back of his neck that lined up with being hit by a baseball bat, supposedly by Charles. The witness's accounts matched up, and because Alex's gun was legally owned, the authorities closed the case as self-defense. Just like that, the whole thing was brushed aside. But that same afternoon, neighbors swore they saw Lori blasting music at a poolside party. Drinks, laughter, loud beats. She was celebrating, barely hours after her husband's body had been carried out of the house.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Later, she confided to one of her religious friends that she didn't feel bad at all, because they had gotten rid of a zombie. Telling the family When Charles's adult children from his previous marriage heard the news, it wasn't through a phone call, a knock on the door, or even a proper explanation. Laurie dropped the bomb in a WhatsApp group chat. Just a short, blunt message, their father was dead. That was it. Naturally, they were horrified.
Starting point is 00:46:52 They started calling her over and over again, desperate for answer. But Laurie didn't pick up. Instead, she texted them vague excuses, like, I'm waiting to hear from the doctor. As if Charles had been sick, as if maybe this was just some sudden medical condition. Meanwhile, she told her own son, Colby, that Charles had died from a heart attack. To J.J.'s school, she gave an entirely different story, that Charles had taken his own life. The contradictions piled up, and Colby grew more suspicious by the hour. When Colby finally went to the house to see for himself, he found out the truth from Tiley, there had been a fight between Alex and Charles, and Alex had shot him.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Colby was in shock. When he confronted Laurie about lying to him, she brushed him off, muttering something about enemies, chasing her and how she couldn't talk about it for safety reasons. Her son didn't know what to believe. The insurance and the move Just four days after Charles's death, Laurie was already on the phone with the life insurance company, ready to collect the million dollar payout.
Starting point is 00:48:06 But to her surprise, she was told Charles had changed his beneficiary less than a month before he died. That money wasn't going to her. Lori didn't let that stop her from moving on quickly. Within weeks, she announced to her family that she had landed a new job in Idaho and would be moving there with the kids to start fresh. She said it with a smile, like this was some grand new chapter of life, not like she was running from a mess. When the family gathered to say goodbye, emotions ran high. Tiley cried openly as she packed,
Starting point is 00:48:42 though when someone asked why she was so upset, she refused to answer. She just clammed up. It was the last time most of the family ever saw her or JJ alive. By August, they were settled in Idaho. Colby still texted Tiley regularly, but something felt off. Around September, her writing style in text seemed, different. Shorter replies, words she didn't normally use. He tried calling, but she never picked up. When he asked Lori to put Tiley on the phone, Lori always had some experience.
Starting point is 00:49:17 She's busy right now, or she'll get back to you later. But later never came. Colby got more and more worried. He even texted Tiley directly, saying he knew it wasn't really her writing those messages and begging her to call him. Nothing. The silence grew heavier. The Dark Notes Colby's wife, who Laurie had never liked, had the instinct to start digging.
Starting point is 00:49:47 She went through old emails that Charles had sent before he died. One in particular stood out. It was a strange message from Chad Daybell, a religious author who had gotten close to Lori. In it, Chad listed out family members and ranked them by levels of light and darkness. Disturbingly, Tiley was marked as one of the darkest. According to their bizarre belief system, that meant she was a zombie, someone whose soul was gone and needed to be destroyed. Neither Colby nor his wife had ever heard of this ranking system before. But as they pieced things together, dread sank into their bones.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Another sudden death. Then came October 19th, Chad's wife, Tammy, suddenly died. Chad said she had gone to bed after suffering a bad cough and never woke up. He told people she had been experimenting with homeopathic remedies and maybe suffered side effects. When authority suggested an autopsy, Chad refused. He rushed the funeral arrangements instead. Officially, her death was ruled natural causes. With her passing, Chad collected $30,000 from her life insurance policy.
Starting point is 00:51:05 The timing was chilling. First Charles, then Tiley's disappearance, now Tammy. The pattern was undeniable, even if law enforcement hadn't fully caught on yet. J.J. and Tiley vanish. As the months dragged on, J.J. and Tiley were nowhere to be found. The family grew frantic. In November, Charles's sister, who had become the beneficiary of his life insurance, filed a report with the police about J.J.'s disappearance.
Starting point is 00:51:39 She had also noticed something strange, even after Charles' death, his Amazon account had been used to buy a wedding ring. The shipping address An apartment in Idaho, Lori's new place. She immediately gave this information to the police. When officers showed up at the house, they found Alex and Chad there. The cops asked where JJ was. Alex claimed JJ was staying with his grandmother, Kay.
Starting point is 00:52:08 But that was a lie, Kay was the one who had reported JJ missing in the first place. When they finally spoke to Lori, she told them J.J. was with her friend Melanie. But when police tried to contact Melanie, she couldn't be reached. The lies were piling higher and higher. Cracks in the story. By now, Lori's entire world looked like a carefully built wall of deception. Lies to her kids, lies to Charles's children, lies to Colby, lies to the police. Everywhere she turned, the truth had been buried under layers of manipulation and fantasy.
Starting point is 00:52:50 But behind the façade, people close to the situation started piecing things together. The rankings of light and dark. The bizarre obsession with zombies. The death stacking up one after another. The sudden move to Idaho. And, most importantly, the silence of two children who should have been laughing, talking, and living their everyday lives. Something was deeply, terribly wrong.
Starting point is 00:53:20 The investigation deepens. Police began pushing harder. Laurie and Chad's evasive answers only made them more suspicious. Each inconsistency pointed toward something sinister. Colby kept calling, texting, begging for the truth. His worry was raw and relentless. But Laurie stayed cold. detached, even dismissive. She told him not to worry, that everything was fine. Yet nothing about
Starting point is 00:53:51 the situation was fine. By now, the mystery had gone far beyond one man's death. Charles had been labeled a zombie, shot, and brushed off as self-defense. Tiley, also branded a zombie, had vanished without explanation. J.J. was supposedly safe, but nobody could actually confirm where he was. and Tammy, Chad's wife, had conveniently died just weeks before Chad and Laurie started openly appearing together as a couple. It was all connected. The threads of this twisted story were tightening into a rope, one that would eventually strangle the lies Laurie and Chad had spun.
Starting point is 00:54:33 But for now, the children were still missing, the truth was still hidden, and the storm was only beginning. To be continued, the fall of Laurie and Chad. Chad, from disappearances to a trial of darkness. When police first tried reaching out to Melanie, Lori's close friend and supposed caretaker of JJ, they hit a wall. Calls went unanswered, texts were ignored, and no one could find her. The excuse Lori had given, that JJ was safely with Melanie, crumbled instantly.
Starting point is 00:55:07 So the very next day, officers returned to the Idaho House where Lori and Chad had been living. But by then, it was too late. The place was deserted. Alex, Lori, and Chad had packed everything, vanished into thin air, and taken their secrets with them. The disappearance wasn't just suspicious anymore, it was chilling. The search intensifies. Authorities wasted no time. They officially put out a missing person's alert for both Tiley and JJ. Photos of the kids were sent to every outlet. The FBI got involved.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Relatives were contacted one by one, but every single person repeated the same heartbreaking answer. No one had seen the children. Colby, Laurie's oldest son, was among the most frantic. He called his mom non-stop. He called Chad. He even reached out to Alex. Nothing. The only response is he was.
Starting point is 00:56:10 he got were vague text messages from Lori herself. Don't worry, everything's fine. The kids are safe. You have to trust me. Just let me handle it. But those words felt hollow. Colby could feel it in his gut. Something was terribly wrong.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Kay, JJ's grandmother, echoed the same desperation. She begged Lori for any clue, any proof that the children were okay. Laurie brushed her off too, repeating the same mantra, trust me. Social Media Storm As the story hit the news, it spread like wildfire. Social media was flooded with pictures of JJ in his little red pajamas and Tiley with her long hair and shy smile.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Hashtags popped up overnight, hashtag find J Jan Tiley, hashtag justice for the kids, Hashtag where are the children. Neighbors, strangers, even people overseas began sharing the story, hoping someone might have seen the kids at a store, a park, an airport, anywhere. Tips came pouring in, but none led anywhere. It was as if JJ and Tiley had simply vanished from the face of the earth. Digging into the past While the search was ongoing, investigators turned their attention to Chad's live. late wife, Tammy. Her sudden death back in October had always seemed suspicious, but at the time,
Starting point is 00:57:45 Chad had refused an autopsy and pushed through the funeral arrangements quickly. In December, the authorities made a bold decision, exhumed Tammy's body. Forensic experts ran a new series of tests, and what they uncovered was grim. Tammy hadn't died of natural causes. She had been killed by mechanical asphyxia, strangled or suffocated. That revelation changed everything. Now, it wasn't just a disappearance case. It was murder.
Starting point is 00:58:19 The death of Alex. The very next day after Tammy's autopsy results came out, another shockwave hit. Alex Cox, Laurie's loyal brother and the man who had shot Charles, was found dead at his girlfriend's house. The official cause was listed as a police. pulmonary embolism, blood clots in his lungs. But given the timing, many believed it was too convenient. Alex had been the muscle, the enforcer, the one who carried out Laurie's dirtiest work. And now he was gone, taking with him any secrets he hadn't yet revealed. A Hawaiian honeymoon. By January 2020, after months of searching, authorities finally tracked
Starting point is 00:59:04 Lori and Chad down. Where were they? Living it up in Hawaii. Not hiding in fear, not mourning their children, but sunbathing and smiling like a newlywed couple. It turned out they had gotten married in November, just 13 days after Tammy's death. Even more twisted, investigators discovered that Lori had ordered her wedding ring off Amazon just days before Tammy's so-called accident. In other words, the marriage wasn't just a spontaneous fling, it had been planned before Tammy even died. Wedding photos later surfaced, showing Laurie in a white dress, Chad and a Hawaiian shirt, both of them grinning, strumming a ukulele, and dancing barefoot on the beach. It looked like paradise, but it was built on death. Most disturbing of all, there was no sign of J.J. or Tiley in any of those photos.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Court orders and arrest. Hawaiian authorities served Lori with a court order demanding that she produce her children within five days. But the deadline came and went. The kids were nowhere to be found. So, Lori was arrested. She was sent back to Idaho to face charges, while Chad stayed free for the moment. Inside jail, Lori remained evasive. When family members called,
Starting point is 01:00:31 begging her to tell them where the children were, she gave the same robotic responses, trust me. They're fine. You'll see. Months dragged by with no answers, just the same cold assurances. Digital Trails Investigators dug deeper. They combed through every property Lori and Chad have been associated with. They analyzed every cell phone linked to the group. That's when chilling new people. That's when chilling new pieces of evidence came to light. The last known photo of Tiley had been taken on September 8th. The last known photo of JJ was from September 22nd.
Starting point is 01:01:13 After that, nothing. Then, hidden in Chad's text history, they found a strange message he had sent to Lori. It read almost casually, like he was talking about doing chores. Been out in the yard this morning. Spent some time cleaning up the property. Shot a raccoon and buried it in the pet cemetery. Kind of fun actually. At first glance, it looked harmless. But when investigators checked the date of that message, their stomachs turned. Chad had sent it on September 9th, the day after Tiley's last photo.
Starting point is 01:01:53 The Dig Police obtained another warrant and went back to Chad's Idaho property. They walked the ground, carefully, scanning for anything unusual. That's when they noticed a patch of grass in the backyard. It was shorter, fresher, and looked disturbed compared to the rest of the lawn. Chad hovered nearby, visibly nervous, as officers began to dig. With every scoop of dirt, his agitation grew. He even made a phone call from his truck to Lori, who was sitting in jail, whispering cryptic words like, they're looking for something, they might be close. When the digging crew unearthed something solid, Chad panicked.
Starting point is 01:02:37 He jumped into his vehicle and tried to flee. Police chased him down the road, pulled him over, and arrested him on the spot. Back at the property, the excavation continued. And then, horror. Wrapped in black plastic, buried shallowly in the ground, where human remains. Forensic teams carefully uncovered a small, small body dressed in the same red pajamas J.J. had been wearing in the last photo of him alive. Nearby, under a statue of a dog that marked the so-called Pet Cemetery, they dug deeper.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Beneath melted plastic and a scorched bucket, they found a human skull. After testing, the truth was undeniable. The remains belonged to Tiley and J.J. The autopsies The autopsy results were devastating. JJ had died from the same cause as Tammy, mechanical asphyxia. He had been suffocated. Tiley's cause of death could not be determined because her remains had been burned before being buried. The brutality of it all was almost too much to comprehend.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Two innocent children silenced, hidden in shallow graves while their mother danced in Hawaii. Laurie faces the court Laurie's defense team tried to argue that she was mentally incompetent, suffering from delusions so severe she didn't know right from wrong. For over 90 days, she was evaluated in a psychiatric facility. But experts determined she was perfectly competent. She knew exactly what she was doing. The very act of covering up the crimes, lying to family, moving states,
Starting point is 01:04:25 hiding the kids, proved she understood the difference between right and wrong. In 2023, the jury delivered their verdict, Laurie Vallow was guilty of murdering her two children, conspiring in the murder of Tammy Daybell, and defrauding the social security system by continuing to claim benefits after JJ and Tiley's deaths. The sentence was crushing, three consecutive life sentences without parole, plus an extra 10 years for the fraud. She would never walk free again.
Starting point is 01:04:57 The loose ends. Alex, of course, never faced trial, death had closed his chapter. But police still linked him to the conspiracy, especially in Charles's murder. Another chilling thread surfaced during the investigation. Brandon Boudreau, who had once been married to Laurie's niece, barely survived a drive-by-shooting. A masked gunman had fired. at him from a passing vehicle. The car used in the attack. It was registered to Charles Vallow, who by then was already dead. Many suspected Alex was the trigger man. Then there was
Starting point is 01:05:37 Joseph Ryan, Laurie's third husband and father of Colby. He had died back in 2018, supposedly from natural causes. But whispers emerged from members of Laurie's inner circle, claiming she had long wished him dead and even celebrated when the news broke. Authorities reopened his case, combing through every detail for signs of foul play. Chad's trial In 2024, it was Chad's turn to face justice. His own adult children came forward to defend him, insisting their father wasn't a monster and that their mother's health had been deteriorating before she died.
Starting point is 01:06:16 But the evidence against him was overwhelming. Prosecutors laid it all out, he had manipulated followers with apocalyptic visions, categorized people as light or dark orchestrated killings with Lori, and profited from Tammy's life insurance. The shallow graves in his backyard were the final nail in the coffin. Chad Daybell was convicted of murdering J.J., Tiley, and Tammy, as well as fraud for cashing in on Tammy's death. His sentence The death penalty. He now sits on death row, awaiting execution.
Starting point is 01:06:55 The legacy of horror. What started as whispers of zombies and spiritual rankings ended in three bodies, two life sentences, and a looming execution. Families were shattered, children silenced, and communities scarred. Even today, people shake their heads, asking how two seemingly ordinary people could fall so deep into delusion, dragging others with them. The photos of JJ in his red pajamas, Tiley with her shy half-smile,
Starting point is 01:07:26 and Tammy's quiet, trusting face linger in the public consciousness, a reminder of what happens when obsession turns deadly. And while Laurie spends her days behind bars and Chad stares down his final years on death row, the story of the doomsday cult mom and her prophet lover continues to haunt every headline, every documentary, every whispered conversation about the case. Because in the end, this wasn't just a crime.
Starting point is 01:07:54 It was a tragedy of faith twisted into madness. The final chapter, Lori, Chad, and the web of manipulation. At the time I'm writing this, Chad Daybell is sitting on death row, literally counting down the days until his execution. Lori Vallow, his partner in crime, is also being. behind bars, serving life sentences with no chance of parole. Despite being locked up in different states, they remain legally married, an unsettling detail that says a lot about the strange, twisted connection they shared. Even when separated by prison walls, they still cling to the
Starting point is 01:08:32 idea of being bound together forever, as if what they did was some sort of divine mission rather than a string of calculated crimes. One of the most frustrating parts of this case is that nobody has ever really been able to to pinpoint exactly who did what when it came to the murders. Investigators pieced things together as best they could, but so much was clouded by manipulation, lies, and cover-ups. What most agree on is this, Alex Cox, Laurie's brother, probably played a huge role in the deaths of Charles Vallow,
Starting point is 01:09:04 Lori's fourth husband, the attempted murder of Brandon Boudreau, and quite possibly the killings of the children, J.J. and Tiley. Alex always seemed to be the muscle, the one Laurie could call on when she wanted something done but didn't want to get her own hands dirty. Then there's Chad. Most people believe he was directly involved in his wife Tammy's death, staging it to look like she had simply passed away in her sleep. Later, evidence revealed she'd actually been asphyxiated. Chad, being the supposed spiritual leader, used his warped religious visions to justify everything,
Starting point is 01:09:40 while also helping to cover up the children's deaths. His role in this mess was equal parts enabler, co-conspirator, and, ultimately, executioner. And Laurie, well, Laurie was the mastermind. The intellectual author, as prosecutors called her. She didn't need to pull a trigger or strangle anyone herself. All she had to do was whisper commands, play with people's emotions, and manipulate Alex and Chad into doing the dirty work. That's why her sentence.
Starting point is 01:10:13 while still severe, didn't end with the death penalty like Chad's did. She orchestrated, they carried out. But make no mistake, her responsibility was massive. Things only got stranger when Laurie gave a televised interview for Dateline. In that sit-down, she claimed that her conviction was completely unfair, insisting she had been railroaded. But she didn't stop there. Lori told the interviewer, with a straight face, that she had to be a straight face, that she had
Starting point is 01:10:43 had personally spoken to Jesus Christ himself. According to her, Jesus showed her visions of the future, visions where she and Chad would both be freed from prison. And the kicker. She said Jesus told her that she and her husband would compete on dancing with the stars. I know that sounds like something straight out of a bad parody skit, but Lori really said it. And she wasn't joking. The producers of Dateline didn't even know how to react. Do you air that claim as is, or do you cut it out to avoid making the whole segment look ridiculous? They aired it, of course, because it highlights just how deep Laurie's delusions run.
Starting point is 01:11:25 For many people watching, that single interview cemented the idea that Laurie was not only manipulative but also mentally unstable in a way that defied logic. The truth, though, is that this case was too huge and too layered for any single documentary or interview to cover fully. Whole chunks of the story had to be left out because there simply wasn't enough airtime to explain every twist and turn. You could probably make a three-part series
Starting point is 01:11:52 and still not capture at all. That's how tangled this web of lies, death, and cult-like obsession was. At the heart of it, prosecutors summed the case up simply, Chad and Laurie eliminated anyone they saw as an obstacle. They wanted money, they wanted passion, and they wanted to live their twisted fantasy together without interference. Anyone who stood in the way, spouses, children, family members, ended up dead or targeted.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Defense attorneys tried to bring mental health into the conversation, suggesting Lori wasn't fully competent or that Chad's apocalyptic visions meant he wasn't in control of himself. But the prosecution pushed back hard, pointing to the obvious premeditation involved. These weren't spur-of-the-moment action. They were carefully plotted, covered up, and manipulated. Lori, in particular, went out of her way to gaslight her family, reassure them that her kids were safe, and even try to cash in on government benefits after her children were gone. So, while you can definitely argue there was madness in this case,
Starting point is 01:13:02 because let's face it, only a deeply disturbed person could declare Jesus told them they'd be reality TV stars after murdering their own kids, the legal system saw through it. They weren't crazy in the eyes of the law. They were calculating. They knew the difference between right and wrong, and they chose wrong over and over again. And that's where things get especially heartbreaking, because this whole situation could have been avoided if the early red flags had been taken seriously. Charles Vallow, Laurie's husband before Chad, saw it all coming. He went to police,
Starting point is 01:13:38 he went to family, he tried desperately to warn anyone who would listen. His calls, his texts, his in-person pleas, they painted a clear picture of a man terrified for his life and for the lives of the children. Charles wasn't subtle about it. He would cry, shake, beg people to believe him. He told the police again and again that Laurie was dangerous, that she was wrapped up in some bizarre cult-like ideology, and that she posed a risk to their kids. He even tried to warn Tammy, Chad's wife, that Laurie and Chad were having an affair. Charles could feel the walls closing in, but because of how emotional he was, people brushed him off. And here's the cruel irony, Lori's calm demeanor made her look sane, while Charles's panic
Starting point is 01:14:27 made him look unhinged. She played the part of the collected, rational woman. He looked like the one spiraling out of control. In reality, it was the exact, opposite. Charles was desperate because he knew what was happening. Lorry was calm because she was the one orchestrating it. To make things worse, Lorry accused Charles of infidelity, something for which no evidence has ever been found. That was just another manipulation tactic. By painting Charles as the unfaithful husband, she gave herself more credibility and made his warning sound like the ramblings of a jealous, unstable man. It was all part of her game.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Looking back now, it's impossible not to feel angry at how preventable this was. If the system had taken Charles seriously, if family members had pushed harder, maybe JJ and Tiley would still be alive. Maybe Tammy would still be alive. Maybe Charles himself would have been saved. Instead, every single warning sign got lost in the noise until it was too late. This entire saga is one of those stories that sticks with you because it's not just about murder, it's about manipulation, delusion, and the failure of institutions to act in time.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Laurie and Chad were two people who, on their own, might not have gone as far. But together, they amplified each other's worst impulses. They created a bubble where every twisted idea was reinforced, where killing a child could be justified as part of a spiritual mission, and where lies became truths because they repeated them to each other often enough. And that's probably the scariest part of all, how two ordinary people, under the right, or wrong, circumstances, can spiral into something so dark and destructive.
Starting point is 01:16:20 In the end, Lori got three consecutive life sentences plus extra years for trying to profit off her children's deaths. Chad got the death penalty. Alex, the loyal brother and enforcer, died before he could face justice. Charles's warnings were ignored until his death became another entry in Laurie's long list of victims. And the kids, the most innocent of all, never had a chance. When you strip everything else away, the cult talk, the apocalyptic visions, the courtroom drama,
Starting point is 01:16:53 this case is about two manipulative people who met at the exact wrong time and fed each other's worst desires. Together, they destroyed lives, families, and futures. And even now, locked away, Lori is still talking about being saved by Jesus and competing on national television. That alone shows just how far gone she is. So yeah, that's the story in a nutshell. Twisted love, blind devotion, and the tragic cost of ignoring warning signs. It's one of the darkest true crime tales out there, and even with all we know, it still leaves you shaking your head in disbelief. The end. Okay, so first off.
Starting point is 01:17:37 I don't even know why I'm posting this here. Like, I never use Reddit. This was one of those, middle of the night, can't sleep, moments where I'm scrolling aimlessly, and then something in me went, you know what, screw it, tell your story. I've kept this bottled up for so long that I honestly thought I'd take it to the grave. But maybe, just maybe, it'll feel good to let it. it out. So here we go. I'm 27 now, a completely different man than I was back then, but when I think about how close I came to throwing my entire life away, it still makes my stomach flip. When I was
Starting point is 01:18:15 younger, I made choices that were, well, let's just call them catastrophic. If I had to sum it up, I was a rebellious kid from a chaotic environment who ran with the wrong crowd and numbed his pain in all the worst ways. And because of that, I ended up getting arrested. in Illinois when I was still a teenager. Now, these weren't violent charges. No, I wasn't out here hurting people physically, but let's not sugarcoat it, I was in deep. I was charged with nonviolent felonies tied to the drug scene I was entrenched in. Back then, I was high all the time, making idiotic decisions like there'd never be any consequences. And when the hammer came down, I couldn't face it. Instead of dealing with my bail like a grown-er,
Starting point is 01:19:01 I skipped out and fled to another state like a scared little kid. For years, I lived like that, constantly looking over my shoulder, moving from couch to couch, ducking and dodging anything that smelled like law enforcement. I thought I was slick. Spoiler alert, I wasn't. Eventually, they caught up to me. I got arrested out of state and extradited back to Illinois to finally face all the charges I had been running from. Let me give you even more context because I don't want this to sound like some romanticized outlaw story. Back then, I wasn't some cool anti-hero. I was a mess.
Starting point is 01:19:41 My life revolved around drugs, chaos, and the false sense of brotherhood I got from toxic people who were just as lost as I was. I hurt my family, burned every bridge I had, and didn't care if I lived or died. When I finally stood in front of that judge, I felt numb. For years in the Illinois Department of Correction, that's what they gave me. But then they tossed me a lifeline I didn't expect, a boot camp alternative. If I agreed to do 120 days in their boot camp program, they'd let me walk after that.
Starting point is 01:20:14 It felt like a miracle. Like maybe this was my chance to rewrite the script. I took the deal. Boot camp wasn't easy, but it wasn't prison either. It was intense, structured, and soul-crushing at times, but I pushed through. Somehow, I made it to the other side and got released on parole. Two years of parole plus 60 days of house arrest, that was the agreement. At the time, I moved in with my grandmother.
Starting point is 01:20:44 God rest her soul. That woman was my rock. She wasn't perfect, nobody is, but she opened her doors to me when nobody else would. She cooked for me, nagged me, prayed for me. And honestly, Without her, I might not have made it as far as I did. But here's the thing, staying clean in that neighborhood was like trying to stay dry in a hurricane. The streets kept calling.
Starting point is 01:21:11 The same faces, the same temptations, the same pain that had driven me to drugs in the first place. It didn't take long for me to fall back in. I started using again. And to make things worse, my oldest sister, let's call her, Lisa, was no help. Lisa grew up differently than me. Silver spoon in her mouth, never wanted for anything, and yet she had this streak of cruelty in her. She was a narcissist in every sense of the word. Instead of helping me, she tried to sabotage me.
Starting point is 01:21:46 She would call my parole officer and make up stories, claiming I was breaking my conditions. The walls were closing in. I was required to come in person to drug test at the parole office. I knew I'd fail. I knew if they saw me, they'd throw me back inside, and I couldn't handle the thought of losing my freedom again. So, I ran. Yeah, I know. Dumb move number 437 in the saga of my young life. But that's what I did.
Starting point is 01:22:18 I packed a bag, fled the state, and started checking in via telephone for as long as they let me. Eventually, they caught on and slapped up, hold up. on me. By the end of that year, my status officially changed to abscondor. That's a fancy word for, this guy's on the run. Translation. I had a warrant out for my arrest again. At first, I was anxious all the time. Couldn't sleep, couldn't relax. Every knock on the door made my heart race. But over time, I stopped caring. It's crazy how fast you can normalize insanity. I carried on with my life like nothing was wrong. And then came 2020.
Starting point is 01:23:03 The year COVID turned the whole world upside down. Everything shut down. Streets were empty, businesses closed, parole offices probably in chaos. I didn't check my parole status for months because why would I? I assumed I was still a wanted man. Until one random night, I decided to check. Just curiosity, I guess. And what I saw blew my mind.
Starting point is 01:23:30 My status? Current. Wait, what? I thought it had to be a clerical error. Or maybe my parole officer got switched. Or maybe, just maybe, the system had forgotten about me. Either way, I wasn't about to go knocking on their door to clarify. I still wasn't checking in like I was supposed to, mind you.
Starting point is 01:23:54 I stayed quiet, kept my head down. Then came the day my two-year parole period was supposed to end. I didn't expect anything. In my head, I figured they'd come for me eventually. But that morning, I woke up to a notification that changed everything. You have been discharged from idiosi. I swear to you, my heart stopped. I read it over and over, trying to make sure I wasn't imagining things.
Starting point is 01:24:21 I wasn't. It was real. I cried that day. Like full-on ugly sobs, tear streaming, snot running. I hadn't cried like that in years, but something about knowing I was free, really, truly free, broke me open. The only people who ever knew this story were my now wife and my brother, who passed away not long after. Fast forward four years. I'm not that same reckless kid anymore.
Starting point is 01:24:50 I got clean. I stayed clean. I met the love of my life. and married her two years ago. She's my anchor, my best friend, the one person who sees all my scars and loves me anyway. I sealed those charges off my record in Illinois. Got myself a great job. Moved us into a peaceful neighborhood where I don't have to worry about gunshots at night or sirens
Starting point is 01:25:15 screaming down the block. It's quiet here. Safe. I went back to school, too. Finished my business degrees at community college and now I'm at a university studying finance. Who would have thought? Me, a guy who once thought his future was behind bars, walking around campus, books in hand, making plans for a career. Some days, I wonder if God threw me a bone. If he reached down and said, all right, kid,
Starting point is 01:25:46 you screwed up plenty, but here's your shot. Don't waste it. I don't know if anyone reading this has ever been where I was, lost, broken, addicted, convinced you're beyond saving. But if you have, let me tell you something. There's always a door open somewhere. Don't waste it. Don't think you're too far gone. If I can climb out of that pit, anybody can. Because at the end of the day, all will be is history. What kind of story do you want them to tell about you? The end. You know how you grow up thinking you've got people figured out. Like, you can tell who's cool, who's shady, who's trustworthy, and who's not. But the older I get, the more I realize how damn wrong I was about some people. This story still blows my mind because it's about someone I once thought I
Starting point is 01:26:39 knew, a guy who turned out to be a monster hiding behind a charming smile. So, let's rewind a bit. Back when I was in high school, there was this kid, we'll call him Paul, who moved into my neighborhood. He was about a year younger than me, so it wasn't like we were best friends or anything, but we crossed paths a lot. Paul had transferred to our school district and instantly fit in. He was tall, athletic, and, well, let's be honest, ridiculously good-looking. The kind of guy that seemed like he was born to have people gravitate toward him. He had this effortless charm about him, the kind of magnetic personality that made teachers like him and girls giggle every time he flashed that smile. He wasn't arrogant about it either. He was smooth.
Starting point is 01:27:28 The type of guy you couldn't help but like. At first, I thought Paul was awesome. I was about 15 when I started hanging out with him more. We'd play football at the park with other neighborhood kids or go skateboarding around town. He had this natural talent for pretty much everything he touched, he could pull off insane skate tricks nobody else in our crew could even dream of landing. I remember thinking, man, this dude's just good at life. We weren't super tight, but he was in my orbit enough that I felt like I knew him. I liked his energy. He was funny, confident, and seemed like the kind of guy you could trust.
Starting point is 01:28:08 If someone had told me back then that he'd someday do the things he did, I would have laughed in their face. When we got to high school, our paths started diverging a bit. We hung out with different crowds. I stuck to my own circle, and he was off doing his thing with the popular kids. But whenever we ran into each other in the halls or at parties, we'd nod, smile, and trade a quick, hey, man, how's it going? There was no bad blood, just that natural drift that happens. Now here's where the story takes a turn. A couple years later, I'm with my girlfriend.
Starting point is 01:28:43 friend at the time, and were hanging out at her place. Her best friend is there too, and they're talking in hushed voices like something heavy's going on. I catch bits and pieces and finally ask, what's up? Her friend looks at me and says, you know Paul, right? Yeah, I reply casually. Why? Then she drops a bomb on me. Apparently, her best friend's sister, let's call her Lisa, was attacked and sexually assaulted. And the guy who allegedly did it? Paul. At first, I'm stunned. I almost laugh because it sounds so absurd. Paul. No way. But as she keeps talking, the details make my stomach turn. Paul had been crushing hard on Lisa. They worked in the same mall and sometimes caught the same bus home. She wasn't into him and made it clear she wasn't
Starting point is 01:29:38 interested. That should have been the end of it, right? But one night, after she got off at her usual bus stop, Paul allegedly followed her. He grabbed her, dragged her into an empty field, and, yeah, Lisa was sure it was him. She pressed charges. But because it was dark and she couldn't positively identify him 100% in court, the case got thrown out. He walked away like nothing happened. I remember sitting there, just staring at the wall. This guy I thought I knew, this guy who'd been in my house, playing video games and eating snacks with us, was capable of that. From that moment on, I wanted nothing to do with Paul. Whenever I saw him lingering around the mall or skating in the park, I avoided him. I couldn't even look at him the same way.
Starting point is 01:30:30 He wasn't the charming, funny guy anymore. In my mind, he was a predator, who'd slipped through the cracks. Fast forward about four years. I've moved on with life. New job, new routines, new circle of friends. Then the news breaks. A girl from my neighborhood, someone I actually knew from high school, is murdered. Let's call her Samantha.
Starting point is 01:30:57 Samantha was only a year younger than me. She was sweet, friendly, the kind of girl who smiled at everyone. We'd worked in the same strip mall back in the day, she was at KFC, and I was in a small store down the way. We weren't close, but she was part of that community. When I heard she'd been killed, it hit me hard. Stuff like that doesn't happen where we're from. The whole town was in shock. Then I found out something that made my stomach drop.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Guess who also worked at KFC with Samantha? Paul. At first, nobody suspected him. Why would they? To most people, he was still that likable, charming guy. But in the back of my mind, alarms were going off. I remembered Lisa. I remembered how he'd crushed on her, been rejected, and then allegedly attacked her.
Starting point is 01:31:52 I started wondering, could Paul be capable of murder? A few weeks later, I'm riding the bus, and who do I see? Paul He spots me, gives me that familiar grin, and sits nearby. Hey, man. Been a while, he says. I force a smile. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Long time, the whole interaction is unsettling. He's being friendly, but there's something off. It's like he knows I know. I keep the conversation short, and when I get off the bus, my hands are clammy, my heart pounding. A few days later, the news breaks again. Paul's been arrested. He's charged with first-degree murder for killing Samantha. Turns out, it was eerily similar to what happened with Lisa. Paul had developed a crush on Samantha. She wasn't interested. This time, instead of backing off, or attacking and leaving a survivor, he killed her. He ambushed her in
Starting point is 01:32:55 her own basement suite and strangled her. When I read the details, I felt sick. All those memories of Paul flashed in my head, him laughing as he landed a perfect kick-flip, him joking around with the guys, him flashing that smile everyone loved. And underneath it all was, this. Looking back, it's obvious. He showed us who he was with Lisa. But back then, it didn't register. We didn't want to believe someone like him could do something. like that. Now I know better. Paul was a predator hiding in plain sight. This whole experience shook me to my core. It's one of the weirdest, most unsettling things I've ever been through. Because if someone like Paul, someone I thought I knew, could be capable of such darkness,
Starting point is 01:33:45 how many other people are out there wearing masks. It's a reminder that you never really know what people are capable of. I still think about Samantha. About Lisa. about how things could have been different if someone had believed Lisa back then. Maybe Samantha would still be here. And I think about Paul. The charming golden boy who fooled us all. The end. Okay, listen up.
Starting point is 01:34:11 This story long. So I met this white bitch at Hooters. I was her waitress. She came in with this old-ass big-ass black dude, so you know as a Hooters girl we have to talk to our customers. So I sit with them and we get to talkin' and she tells me she dances. So I'm like, oh yes, bitch me too. Then she tells me this hulking black man is her sugar daddy.
Starting point is 01:34:37 And I'm like, oh yes, bitch my S-D at home. I feel it, I feel it, so we vibing over our hoism or whatever. And we exchange numbers. And we like, next time you dance hum I am a come dance with you. And they leave, so the next day I get a text like, bitch let's go to Florida. And I'm like, huh? She's like, I'm going to dance in Florida, let's go.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Now I'm skeptical like damn bitch we just met and we already taking whole trips together. But I had went to FL two months prior and made 15K, so low-key I was down. So I was like, okay I'll go. Who's all going and when we leaving? All this bitch says is, be ready by eight, so I call her like, bitch I said who's all going. And she says, my boyfriend and our roommate and my roommate has a place in Tampa, so I'm like okay, okay, okay. I'll be ready. So I pack my badass stripper where and I'm ready. Now my nigger did not want me to go. He was so hurt, so I had to fuck him calm, and then I left. Now when I got in
Starting point is 01:35:48 the car it was a white boy, her BF, and this hulking black guy, not the same one. So I texted her on the slick while in the backseat like another sugar daddy. You got a tight bitch. And the black old dude had her damn phone. So he starts laughing and he goes, I'm using her GPS. No, I'm not a SD I've known her and her dude for eight years. We all live together. So Jessica, the white bitch, pulls me to the side and is like, we gone be at the club all night. This room for Jarrett. Not us. D&T even trip. So I I was like ya bitch okay. But trust one am not laying my head here. So we leave our shit at the motel with Jarrett and head to the club. So we working. It was king of slow, it was early
Starting point is 01:36:37 Friday night, the club had hella rules which I'm not used to, I'm a full nude type of bitch. But this club require pasties and boy shorts and all this other shit, whatever. So after making about $800, I was ready to go. She was talking to some dude, trying to talk him out. his wallet and they exchanged numbers. So I was like, call you are man. I'm ready, she calls, the black dude. I'm like um that's not you are man but okay. So I pull her to the side before he pulled up like, what's up with you are roommate? And she was like we're really close. Before I met Jared I was with him. He was taking care of me. I was like oh itchich well I don't need that. Taking care of me, in stripper language means that was her pimp.
Starting point is 01:37:26 So I was like does Jared know? And she goes, of course not, strike one. So then she goes, I didn't make anything tonight. What you make because he's GNA ask, I said, I'm that's not y'all's business, Jess, chill. So he pulls up and as soon as we get in he goes, What y'all make, we said at the same time, nothing. So he goes, damn my girl said she had a bad night too.
Starting point is 01:37:51 We finna go pick her up. His fiancé who lives down here, we pick her up and he goes, nobody made shit. Y'all want a trap. Trap in stripper lingo means trick. So Jessica goes, hell yeah. You got some clients, him in the back on mute. He was like, you can get some. So Jess is like, yeah, I need to trap.
Starting point is 01:38:15 But Jared is at the room. And he goes, I wasn't putting y'all in face shit hole that was for him not y'all. I'm still quiet, we pull up to a nice-ass hotel on the other side of town and he goes, they'll get the clients together and text y'all off this. He handed her a trap phone. So I am mind-blown at this point. So then we get to the room. Nice as fuck.
Starting point is 01:38:39 Just me and Jess and I start going off. Bitch you got me fucked up. I am not about to play with you ho. I am going home, so she starts crying and she's like, I didn't want to take this trip alone. Please don't leave me. I would be so scared alone. She's fucking sobbing.
Starting point is 01:38:58 I'm like, oh, g-m-g-grely. Now I'm feeling bad for the ho. She goes, you can just check the guys in. He's not G-N-A-force you to trap, I said, Oh, h-bitch, I know he not, I kill dead A-S-S-kill-Y-A-L, verbatim. So she cleans herself up and there's a knock at the door. I open the door and some fat white man goes,
Starting point is 01:39:17 in here for the white girl. So I check his pockets, take his wallet and let him in, they start fucking right on the bed next to me. It was a fucking mess. A mess, so when they finished he gave her $100. I said, Jess, you sell an puss for $100. Pussy is worth thousands.
Starting point is 01:39:39 You trippin, she goes, I don't. Make the prices. The prices are already discussed before they come in. So I was like, bitch, no. If you gone do this. Do it right. So I took some pics of her and put em on backpage. Along with a the trap phone hashtag with a minimum of $500.
Starting point is 01:40:01 The phone starts blowing up. I was like, Desi bitch. I got you a niga coming up right now giving $500 for 15 minutes. He comes, I check him they get it in, he leaves. We are doing this all night. She fucked about 20 dudes and her sorry ass pimp only sent three of them, so around 6 a.m. Jared calls. She answers on speaker and he is going off. Where T.F. are you and Zola?
Starting point is 01:40:29 The club been closed, she goes, we went to another club because it was slow. So in Googling 24h clubs, FL has a few, trying to help her lie and he is not having it. He's livid. He goes, if you went home with a dude you are dead. So he asks to speak to me. I was Likram on I-M-A end up killing these crazy white niggas tonight. So he starts cursing me out. Where are y'all?
Starting point is 01:40:57 I know she's lying. Don't be a ho like her Zola. I said, I promise you, im not, he hangs up on me and that was it. We didn't hear from him for the T-R-S-T of the night. We fall asleep. A few hours later the black dude, I still don't know his name, comes up. He's like, how much you make last night, Jess goes, 5,500. I was like WTF why she tellin the truth. I pimped her, not him. So he goes, WTF how? That's good, but I only sent you
Starting point is 01:41:31 three clients. She goes, Zola made me a back page. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Here we go. So he goes, you can do my job better than me. I said, I was just helping her out. Birdk You our clients were cheap He started laughing He goes Give me the money She gave him all of it
Starting point is 01:41:53 And he goes Thanks Zola You a real one inch And throws $500 at me I put that shit right in my bra TF and Jess goes What about me And he said
Starting point is 01:42:07 You owe me rent Jess You haven't paid in months I was like damn So we leave and head to Jarrett and the Ragedy Motel. Cause our shit was there. As we pull up, Jarrett chillin' outside smoking weed with some dude. Pay attention here.
Starting point is 01:42:24 We get out and walk up to them and Jarrett goes, here they go, the pimp goes, here who go Lil Niga, who dis. Jarrett starts laughing and was like, he was asking me who I was here with and I said my girl and her friends that's all. Chill out. The guy Jarrett was talking to laughs and goes, I'll catch you later man. Nice meeting you, and leaves. He was a black guy with dreads.
Starting point is 01:42:49 A-F-L nigger. So we all go up to the room and the pimp is going off on Jared. You don't know these niggas. I can't believe you told him two bitches in here. And Jarrett goes, he asked why I was out here mad last night. All I said was my girl went to work with her friend and I ain't want her to. Now the pimp screaming, so that nigger K-N-O-I-T-S money up here now. Now.
Starting point is 01:43:15 Hell no. We gotta go. Now, me and Jess are like, so we pack our shit and head out. We went to a nicer hotel about 20 minutes away. So the pimp was like, Zola keep an eye on Jarrett. I was like, oh shit he den promoted me to look out and shit, so he leaves, to go back to his fiancé at home, and Jarrett and Jess start arguing. He was like, I know you was trap in Jess.
Starting point is 01:43:42 I saw the back page ad ho, and he shows her a screenshot, I was like Oh H S hit. Here we go, so he starts crying like a bitch. I was like, wow. He's like, I thought you were done with this. I didn't come to FL for this. You messy. Then he turns to me and goes, this what you came here for Zola? I said, hell n a Jarrett she low-key set me up.
Starting point is 01:44:09 I'm not fucking with y'all after this. He goes, wow you. even set up you are a friend. You such a ho, so they arguing for hours. I leave and go down to the pool. I mean, I am in Florida. So my man calls me. I lied and said everything was okay. I didn't want him worrying. I had a nice dinner and then the pimp calls the trap phone. I answer and he's like, since you a madam and shit, do that shit again tonight. But set up out calls only because this hotel too nice two trap out of. I was like cool. I got you. Especially for another $500. So I go up to the room and told Jess to get ready. Jared goes WTF again bitch no. I said, Jared calm down.
Starting point is 01:44:59 Please, this white nigger starts punching himself. Like crazy people do dog. I saw like oh H. Hellnall. He goes, if you do this again, Jess. I will kill my. I will kill my myself. I love you too much, I was like this nigger lost in the sauce and his bitch lost in the game, so I said, Jarrett sit the fuck down. Jess come on so I can take some picks. It's already 10 o'clock. Y'all playin, so I make her a fresh ad. We come out the bathroom, I did her hair and makeup and shit, and Jarrett goes, everybody knows you a ho now. Fuck you. I want to go home. I said H-U-H. He throws his phone at her and it's her Facebook. A status of both ads. Her M-O-M-O-M is on their go and O-F-F-F-F-F-F in the comments. Jessica starts bawling.
Starting point is 01:45:52 Oh, M-G. My mom had my daughter this week. How could you? She on the floor literally breaking down, I was like, so Jessica calls the pimp and tells, Jarrett just put everything on Facebook. My whole family sees. The pimp goes, I told Z-O-T-O watch him. Literally five minutes later it's the pimp banging at our door. He comes in with his fiancé this time. And snatches Jared up by the neck, he wasted no time. He goes, I should really kill yo ass.
Starting point is 01:46:28 Jared is dangling off the ground crying, Please don't please, low-key him crying. The fiancé pulls out a handgun, y'all. She goes, you want to bay or what? Fuck him. He did our girl so wrong, I was like, oh my fucking God. So now Jess steps in, she's like, please don't. Just beat his ass Z, I was like, oh his name Z.
Starting point is 01:46:53 Okay. Got it, so he puts him down. Z goes. Nah, I am gone kill his manhood though. And he sits on the bed next to his fiancé, he goes, sit in front of me, Jarrett. He does, still crying. He goes, delete the post. And give me you our phone, he did, then he goes, come here, Jess, I was so lost. His fiancé unbuckled his pants and Jess gets on her knees and starts sucking his dick eye in front of Jarrett and I.
Starting point is 01:47:25 I was like, why oh, he then gets up, and starts fucking Jess from the back, Jarrett just sitting there, him standing with my mouth to the floor. He looks at Jarrett and says, any questions. Jared says, I want to go home, I laughed out loud. I couldn't help it. N-C goes, nah. I must spend the night with my girl so you gone take Jess to her outcalls. I was like damn N-N-N-N-N-N-N.
Starting point is 01:47:54 That's fucked bro. He goes, Zola got the clients and addresses so y'all can take her, and him and his fiancé leave. The room is silent for the next 30 minutes. swear, the first client calls and says he ready, so Jarrett takes us. Z left a handgun but told me not to tell them. He slid it to me on the slick, he texted the trap phone like, Im trusting you with my bitch Zola. If anything goes left.
Starting point is 01:48:21 Use it, I was like what? Niga I can't. So anyway, Jarrett took us to about four clients and then the phone was slow. Me and Jarrett were in the car together while she was working so we, starting have any deep convoy. He really wasn't a bad dude. But he was bipolar. Very bipolar, so I understood his outburst a little more. So we head back to the hotel and I forget this one call late AF.
Starting point is 01:48:50 And the client says, I got 5,000 but I want two bitches. I said, oh sorry we, only have one. The client goes, well I got 2,000 for one. but it's four dudes, and we only do in calls. I was like, wow. What? So I text Z and told him. He was like, hell yeah, tell him, come on. So I set it up. Then last min the client goes, actually, out call is fine and gives me a address. So we get in the car and head to the address. Jess goes, it's four of them can you just wait in the hall please? I was like bitch I it, come on. So we head up to the room number they gave and Jess knocks. A dude goes, who is it? And she says,
Starting point is 01:49:32 Incall, the door flings open fast a. S. Fuck. And two big black dudes snatched Jess. Bitch, I ran so goddamn fast I couldn't even see straight. I was out. Fuck that. I run out and the CR is gone. I'm screaming, Jarrett. This fool gone. So I call him, still ruining and he like, y'all done. I said, bitch C told you two never leave U.S. Where are you? He's like, I'm at the gas station. I was thirsty. I though she was gone be a minute, im still running. Umpho. Don't know where I'm going. Im like, they snatched her dude. Come get me. I am Cal and the police. He pulls up a minute later and is like, don't call the police. Call Z. I was like, Z. Gone beat everybody A-S-S. You wasn't supposed to leave, and he's like,
Starting point is 01:50:34 well, you have the gun. If you call the cops you done too. I was like shit. You write. So I called Z and told him what happened. Z is livid. And this deep African accent comes out. I couldn't even understand him on the phone. I was like Mianon. We dead, bro, so Z. up and is like, let's go. I said, um, I am a stay here. Y'all go, he goes, I am not in the mood R. N. Come T.F on. So we all go, me and Jared on the side of the hall where you can't see and Z knocks on the door, a man goes, who is it, Z goes, where my bitch man. Jessica S. C RMS. And the voice says, ain't no bitch in here bruh, I was like, oh, my God, Z goes, open the door, guess who opens the door? The niga wit dreads that Jarrett was smoking wit at the rundown motel.
Starting point is 01:51:35 I was like you. So he goes, come in and check. To Z, Z motion for us to stay hidden. Thank God. So he goes in the room and dread head there by himself R.N. Z sits on the bed with his strap out and goes, where she at man? Dreds goes, well since she wants to steal work F.R.M, my girls. She clearly wants to be here with U.S., we still don't see Jess, so Z goes to the closet and bust the door in and she's in there. Tied up. Knocked T.F out, Dreds goes, I got 20K for her right now, man and all is forgiven, Z said, we made more than 20K this weekend alone. Get out of here. So Dreds goes, my dudes downstairs not gone just let you walk out with her like that and z said we'll see mind you i can barely see him around the corner
Starting point is 01:52:28 so i just hear everything next thing i know i hear some shuffling and a gun goes off once again i take off but i took off down the hall through the back gerrit wasn't far behind and then we look behind us and z is run in two with jess over his shoulder he throws jess in the car and hops in the driver's seat I hopped in with him and Jared hopped in the other car and we got the fuck on, in crying. I said, W-T-F happened. He goes, that nigger reached for his peace. I shot him in the face man, I was like O-H-M-M-A-A-G-A-W-D-D-D. We got back to our hotel, packed our shit and checked out.
Starting point is 01:53:07 We went to Z and his fiancé's condo, nice as F-U-C-K by the way. Jess is up now and she tells us what happened. Apparently they recognized her from the motel and set her up, clearly, and once they snatched her, they told her to trap for them and she said no. So they beat her ass, that's what Zee interrupted when he knocked so they knocked her out. I was like, I really gotta go home, y'all. Sorry to kill the mood but I can't take no more of this. Jarrett was like, same, Z's fiancé was in the kitchen counting money dog.
Starting point is 01:53:43 Just like a rich ho. So Zee was like, everybody gets some sleep I gotta get rid of this, talking about the gun, so he leaves, we all try to get some sleep. The next morning he comes in with tickets for me and Jarrett. Jerrit goes, I'm not leaving Jess here. Not after last night. She has a daughter and needs to come home, Z was like, nah we making money. I was like woo with a black eye and busted lip and some FL niggas looking for y'all you still trying to trap.
Starting point is 01:54:12 Crazy I was like, well I am ready Jess goes I T-L-L-L-B-OK Jared I'll be home in three days Jared started with that punching himself shit again, I was like man Here we go, Jared goes, come with me or I'm
Starting point is 01:54:30 killing myself, Z was like, ugh Not this shit again It'll be in the car, y'all two hurry up So Jared is literally breaking down You ever seen someone hysterically crying? It's intense. And Jess trying to calm him. I'm at the door ready.
Starting point is 01:54:50 Gerrit randomly stops crying. Instantly. Like some movie shit. And goes, so you aren't coming. Jess said, no Jarrett. I can't, this nigger Jarrett, runs towards their balcony and jumps. I swear to God. Bible.
Starting point is 01:55:10 He fucking. jumped. I screamed so loud my heart stopped. Jess runs towards the balcony and this nigga Jarrett was hanging. He didn't fall all the way. He was stuck by his pants. Thank God. We were only on the fourth floor but he still would have died. It was a good drop. So Jess is helping him and I call Zilmfeu. Still crying, I was like, Jared is stuck. He tried to jump off U.R balcony, Z. was a like, what is wrong with this nigger. Families live here bro WTF, so Z came up, helped get him. Slapped the fuck out of him, literally, and physically guided him to the car, Jess comes out and goes, I swear I didn't set you up Zola. I never intended for you to trap. That's why you didn't.
Starting point is 01:56:02 I hope we can be friends after. I looked at her like she wasn't speaking English and I said, I'm not gone beat yo ass aren't cuss you already in bad shape. But I better not ever, see or hear from you again, and she walked away, Z literally buckled Jarrett's seatbelt LMFAO. And we went to the airport. Bear with me. It's almost over. When we landed in Detroit my man picked us up.
Starting point is 01:56:28 We both looked horrible. So washed up and tired, my man was like, who is this white boy and what's wrong with y'all? I said, babe. Neither of us are the same. Just tack him to his car and tack me home. We dropped Jared off and on the way home I told him everything. He couldn't even speak honestly. Check this out, this the last four tweets.
Starting point is 01:56:52 I get a collect call four days later from a jail in Las Vegas. It's Jessica. She goes, we got caught Trappin in Vegas and we all got arrested. I said, oh. Why you call in me? She goes, Z was wanted for kidnapping 15 underage girls and is linked to six murders including FL. I said, Florida. Murder. You have the wrong number. She screams, ask Jared T.O. Bail me out, he want answer my collect call. I said, Jarrett. You really have the wrong number. I hung up
Starting point is 01:57:27 and called Jarrett. He goes, yeah, I heard. It's on the news. He's a huge trafficker. I found out later that Jessica and his fiancé played victim and said they were forced and Z whose name I can't pronounce was an African male and was, wanted literally everywhere. He got sentenced to life and I hear Jess is back in Detroit with her mom and baby. And that's the end of that. If you stuck with that whole story you are hilarious LOL. People still saying I'm lying bitch. Where does our location say? At the strip club getting ready where? They told me to take Jarrett's F.B. down because y'all gone harassed the poor boy. This him and his new boo though, found her ass. Pregnant again, new family I guess. Cute. Everything of Z and the fiancé gone off her shit,
Starting point is 01:58:20 obviously, I'm 30 years old now. It feels weird even saying that out loud because, honestly, I never imagined myself getting here. I mean, I'm the dude who dropped out of school in the 8th grade. No high school diploma, no GED, none of that. Just walked away from it one day because I felt like it wasn't for me. Back then, people said I was throwing my life away, but I wasn't thinking about life at all. I was thinking about survival. About how to get money in my pocket today, not 10 years from now with some degree. See, I've been hustling since forever. It feels like I came out of the womb already knowing how to flip something for a profit. By low, sell high, basic as that. When I was a little kid, I started mowing lawns in my neighborhood. I didn't care if the sun was
Starting point is 01:59:13 burning my neck or if I was covered in sweat and grass clippings, I just knew that when I was done, I'd have cash in my hand. That feeling, the little wad of crumpled bills in my pocket, became addictive. After lawns, I moved on to cleaning windows for local businesses, then recently. selling random crap I'd find at garage sales or thrift stores. I'd polish up old sneakers, slap them on eBay, and make a decent margin. Later on, I got into selling weed for a while, not proud of it, but at the time, it was a steady source of income in my world. I even went OTR driving for a bit, long-haul trucking, trying to find something legit that I could live with. From 16 to 21, I worked at Nike for four years.
Starting point is 02:00:00 That was my first taste of corporate life, if you can even call it that. Folding shirts, organizing stockrooms, dealing with customers. I liked the discount on shoes, but I hated everything else. After Nike, I leveled up a little and got a job at Hugo Boss. Selling overpriced suits to men who smelled like money. I learned how to talk to rich people there, how to present myself, how to fake confidence. But here's the thing, I never felt like a lot of people. I belonged in that world. I couldn't see myself climbing the ladder for 30 years just to retire
Starting point is 02:00:36 with a gold watch and a mediocre pension. So when one of my repeat customers approached me with a business idea, an online personal shopping service catering to people in India, I jumped. It sounded wild, but I didn't care. I wanted out of retail. I wanted to create something. We started small, just the two of us grinding day and night, working out of coffee shopping. shops and our bedrooms. There were moments it felt like we were onto something huge. Orders were coming in, people were talking about us, and for the first time in my life, I thought, maybe this is it. But here's where it gets real. For years, I thought I was just chasing money. That's what I told myself every time I skipped sleep to work or spent
Starting point is 02:01:23 hours figuring out how to scale our little operation. I never called myself an entrepreneur. Other people did. They'd say, man, you're such a hustler, you're building your own thing, that's entrepreneurial as hell. But I'd just laugh and say, nah, I'm self-employed. I thought being self-employed meant freedom, but it really meant I was my own boss and my own slave. It took me 30 years to realize the truth, I'm not self-employed. I'm not even doing this for money anymore. I've got a disease.
Starting point is 02:01:56 It's like this mental illness nobody. talks about. And no, it's not the glamorous, Instagram filtered, I'm an entrepreneur and I drive a limbo, kind of thing. My version isn't like the highlight reels you see online. It's messy. It's brutal. It's lonely. It's waking up with panic attacks at 3 a.m. because you're about to miss payroll or because your account is $500 in the red. I've had months where I was pulling in $10,000, $20,000, something. sometimes even $30,000. I thought I was on top of the world. And then just as easily, I'd have months where my inbox was full of insufficient funds and overdraft fee emails. One minute you're
Starting point is 02:02:42 thinking about upgrading your car, and the next year praying your debit card doesn't get declined for gas. It's taken me all these years to finally get it, all that stuff people say about loving the process and taking it day by day, is the truest shit ever spoken. Back when I was younger, every year I'd make some insane goal like, I'm going to make a million dollars this year. And every year I'd fail miserably. Why? Because I was so focused on the number that I ignored the foundation. Building a business is like building a house.
Starting point is 02:03:16 You can't just slap up walls and a roof and expect it to stand. You have to pour a solid foundation first. You have to construct each wall carefully, with patience and precision, using only only a solid foundation. the best materials. And then, and only then, do you add the roof to keep it all together? Most people don't want to hear that. They want shortcuts. They want, get rich, quick, schemes. They want to believe they're going to become the next Steve Jobs or Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos. But the truth is, most of us won't. And that's okay. It's not written in the stars for everyone to build a billion dollar company.
Starting point is 02:03:56 It's not even written for most of us to become millionaires. That doesn't mean we can't build something meaningful. We're going to run all kinds of businesses, trucking companies, e-commerce stores, retail shops, coffee shops, restaurants, software startups, media agencies, the list is endless. But here's the kicker, our drive for money alone isn't enough to get us through the storm. You know that famous Mark Cuban quote. He said, I'd rather work 80 hours a week and make $50,000 working for myself than make $100,000 working for someone else. If that doesn't resonate with you, if you can't imagine sacrificing sleep, social life, and stability just to keep your own thing alive, then you're probably not an entrepreneur.
Starting point is 02:04:44 And that's not an insult. That's just reality. There's no shame in getting a good job and working for someone else. In fact, for most people, that's the smarter move. But for those of us who are entrepreneurs, we're wired differently. We're born with this sickness. You can't catch it later in life. You can't read a book or watch a TED talk and suddenly develop it.
Starting point is 02:05:11 It's either in you from the jump or it isn't. And trust me when I say, it's both a gift and a curse. I love it and I hate it. Some days, I feel unsty. I'm full of ideas, energy, passion. I believe in myself so fiercely that nothing and no one can touch me. Other days, I feel like a complete idiot for ever trying. I stare at my bank account, at the unpaid bills on my desk, and I wonder why I didn't just stick with a regular job and live a quiet life. But here's the truth, I wouldn't trade this life for anything. To all my fellow
Starting point is 02:05:49 entrepreneurs out there, the ones who are bleeding, sweating, and crying while building their dreams from the ground up, I see you. I feel you. I love you. You're the crazy ones. The misfits. The people who are just stubborn enough to believe they can create something out of nothing. You're the ones taking the path less traveled. You're my people. Keep going. The end. My name's James Denbroff, and once upon a time, I was a hot-shot lawyer at one of the most prestigious firms in the city. Key word, was, I used to have it all, corner office on the eighth floor, my own secretary, stacks of money rolling in no matter if I won or lost a case. But all of that crumbled because of one case. Just one. And now, I'm barely hanging on, haunted by memories I can't shake.
Starting point is 02:06:44 Let me take you back. When I first started practicing law, I had this noble idea that I'd only defend people who were truly innocent. Fresh out of law school, full of hope and ambition, I genuinely believed I could make a difference. My early cases were for regular folks, people working nine to five jobs, barely scraping by. They weren't paying me big bucks, but I could sleep at night knowing I was fighting the good fight. That didn't last. By my fourth year, I started getting real bitter about money. My bank account didn't match my talent, or so I thought.
Starting point is 02:07:22 Defending broke clients was draining me. So I told myself money was money. And I crossed a line. Took my first case where I knew the client was guilty. She was this tall, muscular white woman who looked like she could bench press me with one hand and sip coffee with the other. threw her husband out of a fifth-story window. Multiple witnesses. And the worst part?
Starting point is 02:07:48 She wasn't even sorry. She strolled into my office with this smug look, bruised knuckles and all. Her husband was now in a wheelchair. But she didn't care. She wanted to walk away scot-free. She played that, Do you know who my father is, card? Turns out, her old man was some big oil billionaire. Promise me a fat paycheck if I could make the whole mess disappear.
Starting point is 02:08:14 So I did what I had to. Blamed the victim. Painted her as a sweet angel and him as some controlling lunatic. Left out the cheating part, of course. The jury took forever to deliberate, which was a good sign for me. Eventually, they said, not guilty. She smiled this twisted little grin, like she just unlocked a new cheat code for life. That smile should have been a warning.
Starting point is 02:08:41 I kept going. Took more cases like hers. Got rich. Got famous. Became that guy, the one you called when you had dirty money and even dirtier secrets. Then came Ollie DeFranco. Amber, my secretary, dropped his file on my desk. Ollie was 38.
Starting point is 02:09:03 Accused of two separate crimes, one count of assault, one of murder. Bale denied. I had to go to jail to meet him. Even before I saw his face, something about this case just felt, off. When I got to the jail, the guards looked at me like I was gum-stucked to the bottom of their boots. One black female guard straight up hesitated before buzzing me in. That look she gave me.
Starting point is 02:09:30 Like she could see something dark trailing behind me. I should have listened to my gut. walked into the room with this weird energy. I don't believe in ghosts or demons, but he gave off something, unnatural. His eyes were cold, like they could see right through me. And the first thing he said, well, would you look at this? I thought I'd be long dead before I saw a an asterisk, asterisk, asterisk, asterisk, asterisk are in a suit. Yep. That was how it started. I already knew what he'd done. He raped a black woman and called her every slur in the book while doing it. Then he killed a 17-year-old black kid named Terrell Michaels for playing music too loud.
Starting point is 02:10:15 That kid was on his way back from a swim meet. Captain of the team. Allie was a racist monster. But he wasn't dumb. He knew who I was. Knew my record. knew I took high-profile cases for stacks of cash. And he offered me a deal I couldn't ignore. He had inherited over a hundred million dollars. All I had to do was get him off. I thought about it. Really thought about it.
Starting point is 02:10:46 All the death threats I'd get. The stairs. The judgment. But that money, it could have bought me a new life. A quiet one. A safe one. Still, everything about this guy gave me the creeps. His eyes never blinked.
Starting point is 02:11:05 His teeth were yellow like old piano keys. And he looked at me like I wasn't human. Like I was some pet doing tricks for treats. Leading up to the trial, things got rough. Fretts poured in. My neighbors stopped saying hi. People spit near my feet when I walked by. But I kept going.
Starting point is 02:11:27 myself it was just a job. Just another case. Then the trial started. February 4th, 2009. I remember the sky. Clear blue with clouds like whipped cream. I wore a cream-colored suit, blue shirt, red tie. Tried to look like I still had it together. Protesters crowded the courthouse steps. I slipped in through the back. When I saw Ollie, I felt sick. He had shaved his head, probably trying to clean up his look, but all it did was make him look more like a skinhead. I tried to come up with a strategy. Maybe argue he joined a prison gang for protection. Maybe say he was mentally ill.
Starting point is 02:12:13 But then, the mother of the kid he murdered took the stand. She was, something else. I forgive you, she said. You're sick, and you need help. My son, Terrell, would have forgiven. in you too. He was kind. Sweet. Captain of his swim team. He was coming home when you took him from me. I cracked. Her words hit something deep in me. And Ollie? He laughed. Laughed. Right there in front of everyone. That was it for me. When it came time to deliver my
Starting point is 02:12:51 closing statement, I stayed in my seat. Didn't say a word. Let the person. Let the Prosecutor's words echo. The jury went to deliberate. Ollie leaned over, whispering, you think I'm getting off. There were like four white guys on the jury. I looked him in the eyes and said, Ollie, I hope they say you're guilty. I hope they bury you under the F- asterisk-astrous-astresk I-N-G jail. His eyes widened. Just for a second. We the jury find the defendant, guilty. Best sentence I ever heard. Second only to, I do, or maybe, go faster, Daddy. I smiled. Couldn't help it. Looked over to Ollie, ready to fake some lie about appeals, but he was already up.
Starting point is 02:13:42 U. F asterisk I-N-A-N-A-A-A-stress-R, he screamed. Then he lunged. Wrapped his chains around my neck. Started choking the life out of me right there in the courtroom. Baylifts tackled him, but I was seconds from blacking out. My ears rang. My vision blurred. They pulled him off. Dragged him away. And I just sat there. Tie undone. Breath coming back. Heart pounding. That moment ended my career. I never took another case. Couldn't. Even though I survived, something inside me died that day. All the money, all the power, none of it was worth it. Not if it meant defending monsters like him.
Starting point is 02:14:32 Now. I live in a little cabin far from the city. No visitors. No phones. Just quiet. Sometimes I wake up drenched in sweat, thinking Ollie's still choking me. Sometimes I see the mom's face, hear her words, feel the guilt again. Other times, I remember the goal.
Starting point is 02:14:54 guard at the jail, the way she looked at me. Like she knew I was making a deal with the devil. She was right. I traded my soul for a stack of bills. And now I can't look in the mirror without seeing a traitor. They say everyone has a price. I know mine. I cashed the check. And now I live in the wreckage. That's my story. Make of it what you will. The end. I'm 35 years of old, with nothing in life as far as material objects. I have no car, no house, no game consoles, no tools, or no MP3 player. I do have a smartphone, but it's been shut off. I have no career, or part-time job to piddle around with and I'm a two-year college dropout, because of a DUI, which was just a hair above the limit. I did somehow manage to obtain my high school diploma,
Starting point is 02:15:51 even though I mostly dicked around school-chasing manipulative and promiscuous, or overtly eager and naive teenage girls. Not too-mentioned skipping class, listening to nine-inch nails and Marilyn Manson, smoking marijuana, and swilling down low-end beers and whiskeys like Beams 8-star and King Cobra malt liquor. At the time they were cheap and I could spend my lunch money daily to either get a fifth of Beam or 540azas for my friends and I. I was also an egotistical, arrogant prick who thought he was God's gift to the world. I felt smarter and better than everybody else, I should have been the poster boy for narcissism. It didn't help that I was driving one of the most rad cars at the high school, 1997 rally sport Camaro. I can't believe I hated school so much, I was never interested in anything they taught,
Starting point is 02:16:43 except maybe woodshop, but I was so immature that I couldn't help myself from whittling wooden cocks and baseball bats, so I failed shop. I was more interested in the supernatural, and mysteries of the great unknown, aspects of life. I spent my free time reading countless books on the UFO phenomena, the Loch Ness monster, and occult magic. I really think I just wanted magic in life, or some superpowers that I could fuck around with. I daydreamed of alien invasions, time machines, time machines, zombie apocalypses, weir wolves and vampires, ghosts bumbling around the graveyard, and the return of Jesus to battle the Antichrist. I immersed myself into my own little fantasy world, where dragons and wizards battle to the
Starting point is 02:17:28 death behind the closet door, while fairies and gnomes frolic and spray glitter throughout the enchanted woods. Like I said, high school was a drag, if I wasn't fucking pretty girls, I was out getting high or daydreaming. During my senior year, I decided to take Deca which was a work release class that led out at 10 a.m. I loved this because it meant I was only at school for two hours out of the day. However, I was forced into pursuing a job from Deca itself, so I ended up working at McDonald's for $5.50 an hour. For some fucked up reason, I ended up liking the job so much that I actually did extremely
Starting point is 02:18:06 well at it. In fact, I did so well, that it wasn't in no time at all, that I was promoted into becoming a manager at $7.75 an hour. They sent me to all of these hamburger schools around the Pittsburgh area to learn about food safety and business management. I did extremely well, and aced every test they put in front of me. Every single time I went to Hamburger College I exceeded the standard expectations, and was at the very pinnacle of my class. So I worked at McDonald's for a few years, spending most of my hard-earned cash building up my heavy metal collection, and my heavy metal t-shirts, mostly typo-negative and King Diamond. I probably amassed thousands of CDs,
Starting point is 02:18:50 and hundreds of concert shirts in that period of time. I was pretty proud of myself, especially coming home to my kick-ass room covered with metal bands and black light posters, candles, chains and glow in the dark stars hanging and stretching from across the ceiling. I thought I was the shit. I specifically remember I would burn desert rain incense, and it would give me almost this hypnotic, almost otherworldly feeling. The best way I can describe it, is I felt like God. So anyways, I truly loved my job at McDonald's. I believe I was on my way to becoming very successful and in the words my general manager once said to me, you are a superstar and one day you're going to be a CEO of McDonald's, if I kept on the right path. There was though one slight
Starting point is 02:19:37 problem that prevented me from fulfilling this prophecy that my GM spoke of. My excessive partying. Keep in mind, I was still only 21 years old at the time and I loved to party. I loved to get out and be with people, where I could brag, and boast, and laugh at one another's stories while fantasizing of big houses, swimming pools, muscle cars, and naked maids performing oral sex on me on for hours upon end. I wanted to be a fucking rock star. I had the look, I had the attitude, I just couldn't play an instrument if my life depended on it.
Starting point is 02:20:13 I still can't, I've tried and tried. I probably could have been a professional gamer, but at the time video games were still considered what nerds and homosexuals do, back then it was the word fag, so I kept my love for video games a secret, because I didn't want to be called a dweeby nerd or a fag. So yeah, I let my partying get in the way of my awesomeness at McDonald's and was eventually terminated, due to frequent tardiness or call-offs from hangovers. Sad face, I was once again lost in life, and a soulless fuck-up. I became depressed, I partied even harder than before.
Starting point is 02:20:49 I partied so much, that I ended up building a career out of being a minor misdemeanor criminal. I ended up with a string of unfortunate events due to drinking that ended up permanently damaging my record as a lawful citizen of the United States. Where do I even begin? Two assaults, two disorderly conducts, paraphernalia, marijuana, three DUIs, domestic violence, complicity to theft, open container. All of these charges have been preventing me from becoming an independent, hardworking, self-sufficient, providing man. Well before my criminal history and a few years after my departure from McDonald's, I decided to give school another shot so I transitioned
Starting point is 02:21:30 myself into a college university. A really nice formal accredited college university. I took out some Stafford loans to help pay for extra supplies that I might have needed, that my high school grants, and pale grants wouldn't pay for. I was excited for college, it was like a breath of fresh air. I just felt alive again, and I was very much alive. I almost immediately joined a fraternity, and I made tons of friends. I felt on top of the world. There were beautiful, fully developed women there, very intellectual women whom dazzled me. I felt like I could have my pick of any one of them, without hesitation, I was that confident, I was that alpha.
Starting point is 02:22:13 I did just that, I found the prettiest, one of the most athletic, the head of her sorority, and one of the most intelligent women on campus. Her name I will not disclose in case this comment blows up. We will call her peep. Peep was highly intellectual, very nice, and not naive. Peep had amazing tits, a sexy little tight round ass, tan skin, a naughty face, a great smile, and could fuck like wild jackal. I felt like I had to keep up with Peep to make her like me for more than for just my looks.
Starting point is 02:22:47 So this time instead of sleeping during class or skipping days like high school, I gave it my fucking all. All of my hard work and dedication was finally starting to pay off. my first year as a freshman. By the end of the year, not only was I sitting at the top of the college with some of the best test scores and grade point averages, but I also was in the second best fraternity, first but I'd be biased, and I was literally dating the single hottest, smartest girl on campus. I loved college so much that I even changed my whole personality, instead of being this ego-driven narcissistic asshole, I became more tame, empathic and showed a lot more humility than I ever had before.
Starting point is 02:23:27 I started to become self-conscious of myself and how I would treat others, or act around people. I was more into wondering how someone else felt, rather than how I felt. I also spent most of my time studying in the library, and occasionally reading books written by historic figures such as Plato, Abraham Lincoln, Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Brian Green, and Nicola Tesla. Hell, I even found my favorite poets in college, Sylvia Plath and Robert Frost, both whom inspired me to start writing poetry. I even joined theater to learn about drama and acting. I remember my first play was Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I'll never forget it, because I got
Starting point is 02:24:10 to play the Black Knight. Tis but a flesh wound, ah, those were the days I would drink herbal tea in the lunchroom, and play Magic the Gathering with all of the nerds before class began. I think I was becoming a nerd, a very athletic muscular, good-looking, heavy metal-loving nerd. I'm sure you're wanting to know what happened to college. One night I decided to go out to another university with a friend, which was about an hour away. This university was much bigger than mine, and was specifically known for its huge parties. Peep was busy at college studying, but I had everything caught up, because I was still portraying my role as the overachieving Mr. Wiskid. On our way to the big university, my friend wanted me to get a six-pack and asked if he could drink it on the way up.
Starting point is 02:24:57 I agreed and said that it was fine as long as he threw all of the bottle out the window, hell I even had one beer on the way up. My friend and I had finally made our arrival, we could hardly wait, it was so exciting. The college felt almost magical, it was surreal, almost as if I knew I was caught up in some kind of beautiful matrix, and I knew it. Nothing could stop me this night, the world would be ours. We went from club to club, and yes, I danced with many beautiful girls. I tried to keep myself contained, but the magic of the moment was too much, so I gave
Starting point is 02:25:31 into my desires. After dancing for a few hours, we headed to a more calming place where we could get a grip on our senses. We decided to stop at this little aristocratic slash hipster pub across the street. We sat down for a few ice-cold beers, to soothe our mouths after a long night of dancing. I believe I was drinking Miller Light that night, that was before I knew IPAs existed, and my buddy was drinking Magic Hat. Little did we know, the only about an hour after we sit down, that a concert was happening upstairs, so we decided to see what all the ruckus was about.
Starting point is 02:26:08 We ran upstairs after chugging our beers, paid for the hand stamp and watched a kick-ass metal show. I don't remember the band that was playing, they were just a local band, but they had talent, and I loved metal. We pretty much stayed upstairs the whole time, and ended up drinking just a little too much. I wouldn't say I was drunk, I was far from it, but by the standards of the law, I was technically, legally drunk. After the show, I was super hungry and was ready to eat. We both agreed that petas sounded great, so we stopped and got pizzas from a fantastic restaurant. These pizzas were huge and filled to the brim with tasty goodies. So far this was one of the best days of my life, that was until the law enforcement decided to intervene. It was a
Starting point is 02:26:55 getting very late and I knew I had college in the morning so I needed to get back home. I needed to get back home and call peep and let her know I was okay, I also needed to crawl in bed after kissing my mom, dad and little brother good night, so that I could wake up for school and do great things. I was traveling from the restaurant onto the highway, I turned on some white zombie the song playing was, more human than human. I was really into the music, and I began to accelerate the pedal just a little too much. A state's State Highway Patrolman was sitting behind an underpass off to my right side, cleverly hidden within the darkness of leaning shrubs and vines.
Starting point is 02:27:33 I drove past the fucker and he pulled out and began to follow me, I slowed my speed down and was very cautious to not make any mistakes whatsoever. I kept thinking the only thing he can do is pull me over for maybe seven miles over the speed limit. I was hoping he would just pass me and overlooked the fact that I was caught up in the moment of my music. This patrol officer kept tailing me for probably about four miles before he decided to turn the big whoop on. I'm guessing he was hoping that I would fuck up even more, so he could ensure me a greater fine in debt to society. Despite being scared shitless, I somehow managed to remain
Starting point is 02:28:11 calm and cool and collected. The officer asked for my driver's license, registration, and insurance. All three in which I respectively and kindly obliged. He also asked where we were coming from and where we were headed to, both questions in which I told the truth. Now understand that I was chewing bubble gum, very strong minty gum, not to mention I just ate a huge pita and washed it down with an extra large sprite about 20 minutes prior. I know there was no way this man would think I was drinking, unless he was trying to bullshit me. Well, he came back to the car ten minutes later, as all of my legal stuff came back legit. However, there was one small problem. My friend had left a single unopened beer in the car on his passenger side.
Starting point is 02:28:59 The officer immediately said, have you fellas been drinking tonight? How was I supposed to react to this question? We obviously were dressed to kill, and just came back from the university. Not to mention we already told him we were there and that we were on our way home. So I lied. I said no, I haven't had anything to drink. but my friend has and I am just driving him home. My friend even backed my story up, but that didn't matter to Officer Nazi.
Starting point is 02:29:28 Officer Nazi asked me to please step outside the vehicle. I did just that, nearly shaking in my shit, since all I could think about was what's going to happen to my education. What's going to happen with my parents? How is Peepe every going to look at me again, if I'm a loser? How will I ever regain my dignity, for everything I've worked so hard for, only to see it flushed down the toilet in the matter of a few hours of innocent fun and relief from all the hard work I've been putting in. For crying out loud I was even on the damn dean's
Starting point is 02:29:59 list. How was he going to look at me? Would the dean look at me with shame in his eyes? How was my film study group going to portray their president after this debacle? I was a complete joke headed for disaster. Anyways, despite all of my rampant thoughts, I remained as calm as I could be. Officer Nazi began giving me a field sobriety test. He started off with the pen in the eyes back and forth, then he asked me to recite the alphabet front and backwards. I have no clue how I managed to say them backwards, but I did successfully. Then came to walk a straight line routine, I took a silent but deep breathe and began walking.
Starting point is 02:30:41 I had made it out and scathed again, ha. I've got you now, Copper, was all I was thinking. Then he said lift your left foot out and hold it over your right foot, which is basically a balancing act. Again I succeed no problems. There was one small problem though. He looked at me and said you did pretty well, but now I need you to blow in this little black box, it will read your blood alcohol level. I freaked the fuck out and replied, but you just said I passed everything and did well. He looked at me and said, then what's the problem in blowing in this box?
Starting point is 02:31:17 if you have nothing to hide. I was actually pissed the fuck off at this point, I felt like he just wanted a reason to get me into trouble. I knew in my heart that I couldn't pass the breathalyzer test, because I had drank four Miller lights at the pub, and one on the way up. I simple told him fuck you man, I'm not doing shit, and you're harassing me. He took me into custody and drove me and my friend to his station where he put me in front of a bigger, more sophisticated breathalyzer. I still refused, and then he said, well, I'm writing you up for a DUI. I said good for you now piss off. Officer Nazi handed me my license back, and I called my friend's parents to come pick us up at
Starting point is 02:31:58 the station. I explained to them that I was sincerely sorry and that I couldn't wake my parents up out of bed like this, unless I wanted to be skinned alive. They came and picked us up, the officer gave me my keys and my license back. Big mistake, my friend's parents drove us up to my house. automobile and asked me what I planned on doing. I kindly asked, would you just follow me home? They kindly obliged and proceeded to get behind me, tailing me to make sure I wouldn't be harassed anymore. We drove about two miles up and another highway patrolman was already waiting for me.
Starting point is 02:32:32 I freaked the fuck out completely, and took the nearest turn off ditching my friend and his parents. The cop was on my tail like a fly on a smelly piece of shit. I was in fight or flight mode and when safe flight, I mean I was probably doing close to or over 100 miles per hour. I was like, I'll ditch you sadistic motherfuckers in one way or another. However that was not the case, and somewhere out of nowhere another officer came and blockaded me in. I was trapped, I was doomed. They took me to the same station and charged me with the same crime and then they took me to jail. I had to go to court and pay restitutions and it literally took me almost four years before I ever got my license back. I not only had thousands of dollars in
Starting point is 02:33:18 lawyer fees, fines, and alcohol probation programs, but I also feel into such a deep depression, that I began failing college and sought out a two shrinks. My love life with PEEP began dwindling away, not because of my actions, but because I couldn't stand to look at myself as her equal any longer. I felt like a loser and felt like I didn't deserve her, even though she was very emotionally supportive, and she still tried to come visit me as much as possible, even after dropping out of college. I just couldn't fake it anymore, I wasn't happy in life, and I needed a new outlet. I began to paint and write poems every day, I also took long nature walks and admired the beautiful trees as I would pass them by, sometimes I would see a beautiful house and just stop and
Starting point is 02:34:03 stare at it, as if I was staring off into the vast emptiness of space. I just couldn't help but to keep from thinking that, I was supposed to be that guy, in that house. I was dreamlike happy for all the people with these nice houses, but I couldn't help but feel a little sad inside, wishing that was Peep and I. Eventually I broke it off with Peep, and began seeing my shrinks twice a week, that way I could get four sessions in. I would bring them in my poems and read them, or show them my paintings. They were always very supportive of me, and for that I am very thankful to them. They would ask me questions about my childhood, and my years as an adolescent. I was always as truthful with them as I could be, but it's possible that I held back a lot of feelings. I'm very
Starting point is 02:34:50 introverted when it comes to my feelings of sadness, and pain. So here I am, a washed-up college dropout with no direction in life other than painting and writing trivial poetry. I've barely eeked past high school, I've been fired from the job that attempted to give me a solid career and job foundation, I'm the outcast of the fraternity, I'm one of the biggest letdowns of my university, and now people find happiness with someone else. I've disappointed my parents again, I'm not a good role model for my impressionable little brother who's 13 and thinks I'm the shining sun and some impenetrable God or Titan. I needed a spiritual awakening. I needed to know there was more to life, than just my hardest endeavors that
Starting point is 02:35:33 came only to be known as letdowns. I started to go back to the old me, the drinking booze me, the heavy metal me, the UFO loving, magic seeking me. I became a little bit selfish, and maybe undetermined. About six or seven months down the road I decided to undertake fast food again, since it was literally the only thing I was good at. I didn't have a degree, and I didn't to starve while trying to become some famous artist, so fast food seemed like a good place to start. I began my next fast food job, as a peon trying to work his way up the ladder, in which I eventually did become a crew leader. Keep in mind, I was still very depressed and partial to suicide, so the only thing I really knew to make my situation better was to find a girlfriend. Oh, and I did just that,
Starting point is 02:36:21 I think I ended up sleeping with a quarter of the girls whom I worked with. I guess it made me feel made me feel a little bit human, to think that someone would want to sleep with a loser like me, since all I really had going for me, was a pretty face, a nice body, and an odd personality. Being odd can be a good thing, as long as you show you care. It keeps people guessing, and makes things interesting. People want to try and figure you out, but they really can't since you're sort of chameleon. A year or two pass after sleeping with Jenny, Jaley, Jasmine, Jessica, and Julie or whoever else that didn't apply to work and I met a girl on MySpace. This girl was a lot younger than me,
Starting point is 02:37:02 in fact she was only 17. At first I really didn't know what to think of her, I wasn't even sure if I like her or wanted to sleep with her. All I knew was that she was nice to me. Did I forget to mention that Julie tried to kill me for breaking up with her, and Jaley ended up in prison for embezzlement? I really loved Jaley and Jaley and her son really loved me, but she went to prison for about three or four years, so that was an impossible relationship. So yeah, this 17-year-old girl from MySpace kept hitting me up. Let's call her Mindy. Mindy was a little chubby, but not a fat ass. She had medium-flowing sunset blonde hair, pale skin, nice boobs, but more importantly she had the face of an angel. Mindy was definitely not the type of girl I would have ever thought
Starting point is 02:37:52 to date, because I always went for girls with not just a pretty face, but a killer. body, with badass tits like peep. Mindy was beautiful but normally I would have said I can do better, let alone that she would be the one I would consider spending the rest of my life with. I was more wrong than I ever would have imagined. Mindy and I would spend the next few months doing everything together, hanging out, playing video games, having bonfires, fishing, and swimming and even painting. We never slept together once, I didn't even make it noticeable that I liked her, because I didn't want to fuck this up, or most of all fuck her up, because of how fucked up I am. Mindy and I would sit and talk about anything, even if it was stupid shit that
Starting point is 02:38:34 didn't matter, we would always sit and listen to one another just talking away into the sunset. One day I invited Mindy over for a cookout, I probably had about ten of my friends or more stop out. I supplied all the food and soda pop, but I made everyone else bring their own booze or liquor. Everyone was merry and jolly, laughing and having fun, playing volleyball, or jumping into the pond for a dip. Eventually as night fell, I was getting sleepy. Mindy had already gotten sleepy prior to me, and when I went into my room with the lights off, I see Mindy lying in my bed, sound asleep. I thought to myself, well damn I better keep quite so I don't wake her up. I quietly changed into my boxer briefs and just took a look at her.
Starting point is 02:39:21 I probably looked at her for two or three minutes. She was beautiful, she was truly an angel. I pulled the covers over her, and reached my leg over her to try and keep from nudging her, causing her to wake up. I somehow managed to slip into bed unnoticeably, it was a success, she will be able to sleep well. I slowly rolled over to the right side of my bed, creating enough space for her to breathe and wiggle throughout the night. I went directly to sleep, and I was actually truly happy.
Starting point is 02:39:51 for the first time, in a long time. Somehow during the night I had awoken with the urge to pee badly. I was on the far end of the bed, this was going to be a problem, because Mindy was still fast asleep. I thought I had managed to get out of bed without waking her up, but when I came back from the restroom Mindy was a little hazy, but she was now awake. I told her I tucked her in, and made sure to not try and wake her up, and she was thankful and pleasant and said something on the lines of, you didn't have to do that.
Starting point is 02:40:21 I thought to myself, no I didn't but I wanted to for you. I rolled back in bed and went to lay down, but Mindy put her arm around me, and gave me a hug. She started rubbing my back, and it felt amazing. I didn't want her to stop rubbing my back, so I began to rub hers, very soft, very deep, very calm. I'm not sure what or how it happened, but Mindy and I embraced and kissed and kissed one another. At first it was just a soft innocent kiss, but then I felt her reach for more. At this point I couldn't stop, and I gave into passion and my animal instincts took over. When I entered her, she moaned in ecstasy, and I wouldn't be surprised if my friends didn't
Starting point is 02:41:04 hear us at one point during the night. Mindy was so wet, and she felt better than anything I have ever had before. The only explanation for this I have ever come up with is that, we had waited for so long, and built up a very good friendship with one another, before just jumping in and fucking each other. There was definitely a lot of sexual tension being released. She quivered, and squirted twice all over my bed. I was a fucking mess, my bed was a disaster, the room felt like 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit. It was like the most passionate, dirty, raunchy, sweaty sex ever.
Starting point is 02:41:41 It was worse than unknowingly falling down a slip and slide, but oh did it feel so damn good, and she smelled so sweet, like ripe fruit. I made love to her, and went down on her, and then made love to her again. The first time I pulled out on her chest, and splooged everywhere, but the second time she held on to me tight, squeezing with all her might, and as I was about to come, she wrapped her legs around me forcing me to stay inside of her. I think I came more, and harder than the second time as I filled her up to the brim, she was leaking her cum and I come everywhere, but I didn't care, the whole damn bed was already mess anyways. She looked at me and said, Damn, that's the best dick I've ever had, and then later jokingly
Starting point is 02:42:24 named my cock the hammer. I just shyly smiled and looked away. As the months went by Mindy and I grew closer, the sex got better, and even nastier. Before I knew it, I was sticking my fingers in her asshole, while ramming my pipe down her tight little pussy, and she was loving every minute of Sometimes we would call places of business while we were fucking, and hell sometimes even friends just to see if they could catch on. Mindy and I were sexually fused into one twisted little dirty secret, except we didn't mind giving hints. I licked her asshole, I stuck all three inches of my fat tongue deep inside her tasty little twat.
Starting point is 02:43:04 I filmed her while she was riding me like a good little cowgirl, and while I pounded her out from behind like the devil she was. Her moans and cries and OMG OMG omg omgs were so loud that I'm surprised no one said anything. Someone walking by would either think someone's either getting murdered and dicked down extremely well. Well it was murder, I murdered that pussy almost every day for six long years. We were in love, and we were both probably a little obsessed with one another. We eventually got married, and I was the most happiest and proudest man on earth. I was so happy that Mindy wanted to be my wife, even though I worked a low-paying job at a gas station,
Starting point is 02:43:46 I had to leave the other fast food place because Mindy got a job there, and they had a no fraternization policy. So yeah, I worked at this awesome, but shitty paying job for the next three years just for Mindy. I would bring Mindy home pizzas or salads whenever she wanted, or would buy her lotto tickets, or candy to surprise her. I would pick flowers for Mindy, and one time I even bought a night. notebook, and filled every single page with a detailed picture and a sentence about why I loved her so much. I forgot to mention that Mindy was pregnant with our first child, before we got married, but we married shortly after. Eventually Mindy had our daughter, and I was the happiest
Starting point is 02:44:26 married father in the whole wide world. My daughter was everything to me, she made me want to become a better man, and be more compassionate in life. I wanted to do everything for her and Mindy only. Somehow after our daughter was born Mindy, started slowly developing deep depression. She went to the doctor to find out what was wrong, and he said it was a hormone imbalance that could last for years. He told us that it sometimes happens to women after childbirth. The doc prescribes her with antidepressants, but she just wasn't motivationally the same. One day her cousin and close friend whom were addicted to narcotics, somehow coerced Mindy into
Starting point is 02:45:05 thinking that opiates would be the solution to her problem. Mindy starting taking the medications behind my back, and seemed to always want to have more sex than usual. We always had sex at least every other day, but now she was wanting it like four or five times a day, for sometimes two or three hours at a time. At first I didn't notice, but soon I came to realize that she looked high as fuck. One time when we were fucking she forgot who she was, she thought she was this old hooker woman, that I was paying for sex. I just didn't know what to do, but I confronted her about it anyways, very cautious and politely, trying to be as understanding as humanly possible.
Starting point is 02:45:46 She never was good at keeping a secret for very long, without at least giving off hints, and this time was no different. Mindy had told me the truth. Shortly after she had told me the truth, she pulled out a little pill, crushed it up, snorted it in front of me, then told me to take a line, and that she wanted me to fuck her harder than ever before, and to tell her what it feels like when I'm on this shit. I thought, are you out of your fucking mind winch? You want me to take a pill, the same shit you lost self-identity with and fuck you harder than ever before right on the bare-ass floor.
Starting point is 02:46:20 So being the dumb as I am, I gave in and said, sure. I took the little line up my nose, and she immediately began sucking my fat cock. I was extremely hard at this moment, and I felt more powerful than ever before, until about five minutes later when my dick went completely limp. It was seriously just hanging there like a wet noodle swinging back and forth, and there was nothing I could do to get it to work. I started to freak the fuck out, I thought my dick had died. Then about ten minutes later I was puking my fucking guts out, I felt like I had the flu or something. Mindy seemed upset with me and that didn't help, at all. I began to cry like a little bitch, because I thought I was dying.
Starting point is 02:47:04 Mindy finally came over to me, and started rubbing my back telling me it's okay. She sat down beside me, and began to kiss me, and for the love of God I have no clue how it happened, but I finally managed to get a hard on. I fucked Mindy just how she had begged me to, not giving her an inch of breathing room, as I tightly squeezed her, and kept thrusting each time the farthest I could go. I could always go deep, but this time for some reason, I could almost feel myself in her gut. She was loving every minute of it, and so was I. I remember I couldn't get off for the life of me, I tried and tried, but nothing was working.
Starting point is 02:47:44 I was afraid she would get upset with me, because she always liked me to blow a huge sticky wad up inside her, so she could watch herself push it out. I could come a lot back then. I said I'm sorry I can't get off, and she was cool with it. She turned away and said, the next time you'll get off, because that's what Haley and Topanga said would happen. I'm thinking to myself, you mean you planned this out with your cousin and best friend? Have you gone mad? And what the fuck do you mean the next time?
Starting point is 02:48:15 So that was the beginning of my downward spiral. We eventually had our son, and she quit drugs long enough for him to be born, but then went right back into the same boat. I eventually moved to a way better job, where I became the second lead manager. I was doing really well for myself and tried very hard, although the drugs were beginning to take an effect. What once started out as innocent little fun for an exotic type of sex, became an addiction. Mindy, however, was already addicted. I started a new job as an assistant GM for another gas station around this period of time, so I was making damn good money, bringing in roughly a little over $800 a week after taxes, but I'd say three quarters of that
Starting point is 02:48:59 money went to opiates. These opiates weren't cheap opiates either, I'm talking $120 a pill. All the bills I had paid in advance slowly kept creeping up until they were late, the house payment was late, and at this point we owned three cars. One of the cars was a brand-new Lincoln L.S. 2009, I believe. I had to take a 2K loan out on it, just to pay the bills up. Our rent was only $379 a month, and I made $800 a week. Our electric was about $60, and our water about $48. Our bills didn't even exceed over $500 a month. Yet, Mindy was pawning my Xbox 360, and the brand-new PS3 with 10 games I had bought her for Valentine's Day. What saddened me the most was my stolen video camera that had my daughter's birth on it, and
Starting point is 02:49:52 memories from my college days, which I'm guessing was stolen by druggies who were coming over to my house while I was away at work. I was falling apart mentally, I even threatened to kill whomever took the video camera, because it was that sentimental to me. I didn't even care that it cost me $800 of my Stafford loan in college. I would have paid the fuckers who took it $800 for it back, but they were all too cowardly to even admit it, and my drugged-up wife had no idea. Like I said I was starting to have a breakdown. I was beginning to fear for my daughter and my son. What would happen to them if something
Starting point is 02:50:28 happened to Mindy? They would be all alone in that house, and I would be at work, alone helpless not knowing a damn thing until I walk in and open those fucking doors. I only had one option, and so I gave up the opiates, and I gave Mindy an ultimatum. I told her that she needed help and that I wouldn't be supplying her with any more drugs. That didn't bother her, though, because she was still able to get money from both mine and her parents easily, especially hers. Eventually, I caught on to her little charade, and told her I wanted a divorce. Mindy begged me and pleaded with me, but I already had my mind set, because it was the best for our kids. Eventually Mindy started to hate my guts after I had called the law on her time and time again trying to get her
Starting point is 02:51:14 caught up in her scheme, so that I could have full custody of the children. Somehow she managed to escape and scaped each time, and one time specifically I made myself look like a complete ass in front of the police, but that didn't matter, they were the idiots who wouldn't check her purse for the drugs. They said they needed probable cause, and since she wasn't high yet, they couldn't do a thing. Instead the fuckers charged me with domestic threat and stalking, and took me to jail that night where I spent a whole week, and almost lost my job because of it. I didn't care, though, I did my duty as a father. I know I tried to do the right thing. The kids ended up staying with her and her parents, because at this point we had lost the
Starting point is 02:51:56 house. Somewhere through all of the fighting I had a complete mental breakdown. The woman I had loved turned into a selfish druggie, and my children were possibly going to be affected by this. I fell into severe depression after this, and just pretty much gave up. I felt. I felt that, I felt like it was hopeless, the cops seemed to be on her side, and they all made me out to look like a fool. I relapsed harder than fuck. I went straight into the most gangster, cruddy, in human parts of the inner city and began searching for drugs. I think I took over $800 with me, to go and buy a bunch of heroin from a complete stranger,
Starting point is 02:52:34 just to get fucked up, and flip it for more money. So I did just that. The guy I found was some skinny white dude in a turquoise backward. ball cap and matching shirt, with freckles all over his face, who looked like he hadn't eaten any food for weeks. I asked him if he was hungry, and gave him some McDonald's. He told me to stay there and wait in the car, I looked him in the eye, and said, then I'm only giving you $300, and if you come back and give me what I need I'll give you the rest of it for more dope, and I'll give you $100 on the side, and I'll even get you high. He looked at me
Starting point is 02:53:09 and said, thanks, but I don't do H. I said, well, that's cool with me, I said then what else do you want? And he replied back saying, nothing. I built up a trust with this guy over the course of a few months, but eventually he got me for a couple hundred. I wasn't worried about it, because I had enough money anyways, and figured he was probably on the run for his life from owing someone a big debt. He might not have done H, but he was very skinny and deathly pale, so I'm pretty sure he was either a cocaine, crack, or meth head or he does tremendous amounts of adderol. Speed was probably his need, and who am I to judge? Hell, I'm the one buying heroin in mass amounts. The end. The story of Kelsey Nicole Turner. Let's kick things off with a little introduction that popped up on the
Starting point is 02:54:00 internet one day. Hi, my name is Kelsey. I'm 28 years old, and right now I'm locked up in Las Vegas for a crime I swear I didn't commit. I'm looking for pen pals, for friends who can write me, for people who might support me while I go through this trial and whatever sentence might come after. Before all this happened, I used to work as a model, and I'd love to go back to that once I'm out. I love the beach, I love dancing, I love reading. Please don't hesitate to reach out to me. That short message was sitting on a public profile at loveaprisner.com, a website where inmates can connect with people on the outside. The profile had been set up by a woman named Kelsey, who, as you've already figured out, wasn't writing this from the comfort of her own home but from behind bars while waiting for her trial. Her profile had the usual details, her age, her birthday, her height, her sexuality, she openly mentioned being bisexual,
Starting point is 02:55:03 and the fact that she was interested in meeting people through letters. She had uploaded two photos, one in a revealing dress with a high slit and a plunging neckline, and the other in lingerie, clearly trying to make an impression. And right in the middle of her bio, bold as day, was the claim, I'm innocent. I'm here for something I didn't do. Now, if you've ever talked to someone about prison before, you probably know the old saying, every inmate claims they're innocent. I once had a buddy who joked,
Starting point is 02:55:35 prisons are the safest places in the world, full of the most innocent people you'll ever meet, at least according to them. And in a way, that's exactly what Kelsey was trying to stretch for as long as she could, that she was the exception, the one who really didn't belong there. So, who exactly was this woman?
Starting point is 02:55:56 What's her story? And, more importantly, was she really as innocent as she wanted everyone to believe. Chapter 1, Growing Up Kelsey Kelsey Nicole Turner was born in May 1993. Now, here's where things already get a little messy. According to her profile on Love a Prisoner,
Starting point is 02:56:18 her birthday is May 9th. But if you look her up on Wikipedia, it says she was born on May 5th. What we do know for certain is that she was born in Norfolk, Virginia, to her parents Samantha and Christopher. When she was still little, the family moved to Jonesboro, Arkansas, which is where she spent most of her childhood. Jonesboro is one of those places people describe as,
Starting point is 02:56:44 perfect to raise a family. It's got that whole small-town charm, quiet neighborhoods, good schools, not a lot of crime, and lots of open fields where kids can grow up running around with animals. For a lot of people, that's the dream childhood. And for Kelsey, in some ways, it really was. She had friends, she had a stable family, she had pets, she had the kind of safety most kids never even think twice about.
Starting point is 02:57:13 But here's the thing, Kelsey never really felt like she fit in there. From the time she was young, she had this burning desire that just wouldn't leave her alone. She wanted to be famous, not just successful, not just well-like, famous, like a star. And to Kelsey, the how didn't really matter. She didn't care whether it was through acting, singing, dancing, modeling, whatever it took. She wanted people to know her name. She wanted the spotlight.
Starting point is 02:57:50 She wanted the attention. Growing up in Jonesboro, she felt trapped. She looked around at the calm, simple lives of the people there. going to school, working steady jobs, raising kids, and thought, that's not me. I'm meant for more than this. I can't just sit here in Arkansas and let my life disappear. Part of this fire came from her mom, Samantha. When Samantha was younger, she had done some modeling herself.
Starting point is 02:58:21 She had entered beauty pageants, won a few, collected trophies, and carried herself like someone who had tasted a bit of glamour. And Kelsey, watching her mother, wanted to be exactly like her. Samantha wasn't just a role model, she was also the kind of mom who thought her daughter could do no wrong. She was the mom who always clapped the loudest, always said, My daughter is perfect, my daughter is the prettiest, my daughter is the smartest. Other moms might say, no, sometimes, but not Samantha. To her, Kelsey really was flawless.
Starting point is 02:58:58 And growing up in that kind of environment gave Kelsey this mindset, I'm special. I'm untouchable. I'm too good to be told no. So when someone did tell her no, when she didn't get her way, she'd explode. She just couldn't process the idea of rejection because her whole world had been built on constant validation. She became obsessed with her appearance. Makeup, hair, nails, clothes, it all had to be perfect. She wanted people to notice her.
Starting point is 02:59:32 She wanted to turn heads wherever she went. She wanted to be unforgettable. Chapter 2, heading west. By the time she hit her early 20s, around 21 or 22, Kelsey decided she was done waiting around. Arkansas wasn't going to make her famous, so she packed her bags and moved out to Los Angeles. Her plan Make it big. Make connections.
Starting point is 03:00:02 Blow up on social media. Turn herself into someone people couldn't ignore. But here's an important detail. By this age, Kelsey already had two kids. Now, this part of her life is fuzzy because there's not much information out there. Some sources say her oldest child lived with the father, and her youngest lived with her. Others claim both kids had different dads, while some insist they had the same father.
Starting point is 03:00:31 What's certain is that motherhood wasn't her priority. Her dream of being a star was stronger than her instinct to settle down. And while we'll circle back to those kids later, because, trust me, it becomes relevant, for now, all you need to know is that Kelsey was determined to put herself first. So she arrived in Los Angeles, convinced that this was the place where dreams came true. She imagined herself rubbing elbows with celebrities, getting discovered at parties, posting content that would go viral, and waking up one day as the next big name in Hollywood. Her weapon of choice.
Starting point is 03:01:11 Instagram Chapter 3, Reinventing Herself Back in 2015, her Instagram handle was Arkansishi 1993. The vibe was, let's just say very, small-town country. country girl. Think cowboy hats, plaid shirts, country boots, the occasional guitar, and a whole lot of girl next door energy. She'd even post videos of herself singing covers, trying to show off her voice. The problem? Nobody cared. Her posts barely got likes. The only comments were from family members and friends back in Arkansas saying things like, you look cute, girl, or so proud of you.
Starting point is 03:01:59 And that's when she had a realization. The content that did get attention was when she dressed more provocatively. A crop top showing her belly button. A tighter shirt. A picture that hinted at a little more skin. That's what made strangers stop scrolling. That's what got likes from people outside her small circle. So in 2016, Kelsey did a complete rebrand.
Starting point is 03:02:28 The first thing she did was change her Instagram name to something catchier, something edgier, Kelsey Turner Bad Barbie. And with that, she left behind the country girl image. No more guitars. No more sweet covers. No more playing, the good girl. She wanted to project something new, sexy, rebelled. She got lip fillers. She got breast implants. She started posting in lingerie, bikinis, or skimpy outfits. The captions got more confident, more suggestive. And it worked. Her follower count skyrocketed. She went from a nobody with a handful of likes to an influencer with over 100,000 followers. And with followers came money.
Starting point is 03:03:25 Brands noticed her. They sent her free products. They paid her for posts. Photographers reached out. She got invites to events. She posed with other influencers, and every once in a while, you'd see her in photos with actual actors or well-known faces. Her online persona was blowing up, and for the first time, she felt,
Starting point is 03:03:50 She felt like she was finally becoming the star she always knew she was meant to be. Chapter 4, Money, Fame, and Ego. Now, here's the thing about sudden attention, some people can handle it, and some people lose their damn minds. And guess which category Kelsey fell into? Yeah. The second one. The money came quick. A few months after the rebrand, Kelsey was made.
Starting point is 03:04:20 making thousands of dollars just for posting pictures. Literally, put on a dress, snap a photo, post it, and boom, cash. Companies wired her money for collaborations. Photographers paid her just to show up at shoots. Clubs comped her drinks because she had followers. For a girl who grew up in small town Arkansas, this was like a rocket ship to another planet. And she loved it. She felt like she was on her way to becoming the next Marilyn Monroe.
Starting point is 03:04:55 She was convinced the attention would never fade, the money would never dry up, and the fame would only keep growing. And because of that belief, she thought she had to live like a star. She started buying luxury clothes, designer handbags, expensive makeup, jewelry, you name it. She rented fancy cars. She wanted her whole life to look Instagram. ready, not just the square picture she posted. Here's the problem, when the money comes fast, people forget that it can also disappear fast.
Starting point is 03:05:30 Instead of saving, instead of planning, instead of treating this like a temporary wave she could ride, Kelsey thought the ocean would never end. So she spent it all. Every dollar that hit her account. Gone. Straight to material things. Straight to flexing. And you know what's dangerous about that?
Starting point is 03:05:54 When your lifestyle starts costing more than your income, you'll do anything to keep it up. Chapter 5. The Dark Side of L.A. Los Angeles is a funny place. On the outside, it's glitz and glam, red carpets, pool parties, palm trees, Lamborghinis. But behind all that, there's a darker side. The clubs, the drugs, the sponsors, the fans, the fans, the fans, the fans, the ferns, fake friends who disappear when the money dries up. And Kelsey. She dove straight into it.
Starting point is 03:06:30 She started partying with people who weren't really her friends, just leeches who loved the spotlight as much as she did. She met guys who promised her connections, luxury, and a better lifestyle, but of course, there was always a price. It was in this scene that she started to blur the line between Instagram model and something else. She wasn't just selling clothes or beauty products anymore. She was selling an image of herself, and that image became a currency. Men with money were drawn to her. Older men, especially.
Starting point is 03:07:07 Men who could fund her lifestyle in exchange for her time, her company, and, well, let's just say it wasn't about friendship. Sugar Daddies, sponsors, whatever you will. want to call them, Kelsey found her way into that world. Chapter 6, The Children Forgotten. Now, let's circle back to those kids for a second. Because remember, Kelsey had two children by this point. But while she was building this bad Barbie persona, the kids weren't front and center.
Starting point is 03:07:41 They weren't on her Instagram. They weren't mentioned in interviews. It was almost like she pushed that part of her life into the shadows. Some say her oldest stayed with the dad full-time. Others say she kept the youngest with her sometimes, but even then, it was hard to balance club nights, photo shoots, and networking with being a parent. And the truth is, being a mom wasn't what she wanted people to see.
Starting point is 03:08:10 She didn't want to be known as, that influencer with kids. She wanted to be the bombshell. The sex symbol. The Party Girl It wasn't that she didn't care about her kids at all, it was more like they didn't fit into the version of herself she was trying so desperately to sell to the world. Chapter 7 Cracks in the Fassad By 2018, the shine was starting to wear off. Sure, she still had followers. Sure, she still looked glamorous online. But behind the scenes, the cracks were forming.
Starting point is 03:08:49 The sponsorship deals weren't as consistent as she'd hoped. The money wasn't flooding in like before. And when you live like money will never stop, it hits hard when it does. She wasn't ready to go back to a normal life. She wasn't about to pack it up and say, okay, that was fun, now I'll just work a regular job. No. That wasn't Kelsey. She doubled down.
Starting point is 03:09:21 She needed bigger sponsors, richer men, more extreme ways to keep the image alive. And that's when she crossed paths with someone who would change everything, Dr. Thomas Burchard. Chapter 8, Enter the Doctor. Dr. Burchard wasn't just anyone. He was a respected child psychiatrist from California, in his early 70s. He had spent decades helping kids, building a reputation as a kind and generous man. But here's the thing, he also had a habit of getting involved with young women who reminded him of the glamour and youth he no longer had. That's where Kelsey came in.
Starting point is 03:10:04 The two met, and almost instantly, he fell into her orbit. He wasn't just offering her advice or friendship. He was financially supporting her, paying bills, covering rent, giving her cash, even helping take care of her kids. It was almost like he became her lifeline, her safety net, her personal bank. And Kelsey? She knew exactly what she was doing. She played the role perfectly, the pretty young model, the struggling mom, the woman who just needed a helping hand. She leaned into his generosity and let him pay for the lifestyle she craved. But relationships built on money and dependency rarely end well.
Starting point is 03:10:51 Chapter 9, tensions rise. At first, it was fine. Dr. Burchard was happy to help, and Kelsey was happy to accept. But as time went on, things got messy. The doctor wasn't blind, he noticed her spending habits. He saw the money disappearing into luxury items, expensive nights out, and things that had nothing to do with her kids. He started to question where his money was really going. And Kelsey? She didn't like being questioned. Remember, this was a woman who grew up believing,
Starting point is 03:11:30 no, didn't exist. Being told she was spending too much, or being asked to explain herself, felt like an attack. The tension grew. And that tension was about to explode into something no one saw, coming. To be continued, Chapter 1, Living for Appearances. Kelsey's life at this point could be summed up in one single phrase, all for the show. Every dollar that came into her hands went right back out, not on essentials, not on savings, but on luxuries, on glitter, on smoke and mirrors. She was addicted to the image. Shoes, handbags, dresses, makeup, hair appointing. her entire budget was swallowed up by appearances. And the worst part?
Starting point is 03:12:21 The money wasn't even steady. It came in bursts. One collaboration here, one photo shoot there. But no matter how much came in, she spent double to look like she was living on the level of the Kardashians. And she wasn't just spending, oh no. She was also lying. See, every brand collab she laid. landed, she twisted and inflated to the extreme. If a company paid her $1,000 for a sponsored
Starting point is 03:12:52 Instagram post, she'd hop on her stories and brag to her followers. Yeah, I just got paid $10,000 for this photo. And honestly, I'm not accepting less than that for my next deal. It was all smoke. All exaggeration. But she needed people to believe she was on the rise, that she was untouchable, that she was worth more than anyone else. Same with events. If she got invited to a party in Vegas, a normal invite, maybe with free drinks, she'd go online and spin it into a fairy tale. She'd claimed she was whisked away to the VIP section,
Starting point is 03:13:31 showered with the most expensive champagne, spending thousands of dollars like it was pocket change. Were parts of it true? Sure, she got invited. She went. But the rest? All lies. Chapter 2. Lying as a Lifestyle. This wasn't manifesting.
Starting point is 03:13:55 This wasn't her trying to create the life she wanted by speaking it into existence. This was flat-out compulsive lying. She twisted reality until she started believing it herself. And to really understand the level of madness, let's break down a couple of of her most famous exaggerations. The first was Maxim magazine. Maxim ran a contest looking for fresh faces to feature, a competition where hopeful models could submit photos and maybe, just maybe, end up on the cover.
Starting point is 03:14:29 Kelsey entered. She sent in some photos, filled out a little form, did a tiny online interview, just a few lines. She didn't win. She didn't even place in the top ten finalists. But since her name appeared on the contest website, Kelsey ran wild with it. Suddenly, she was telling everyone she was a Maxim girl. She bragged that she'd been on the cover, that she'd modeled for them directly, that she was part of that elite club.
Starting point is 03:15:01 Reality check. She had never posed for Maxim. She had never been on their cover. The closest she got was a thumbnail on a contest page. Then came Playboy. On May 2nd, 2017, a small online article in Playboy Italia featured her name and a picture. Not in the magazine, not in print, not even in a serious photo shoot, just a tiny piece online, barely noticed. But to hear Kelsey tell it, Oh, she was a Playboy Bunny now.
Starting point is 03:15:37 She claimed she'd been on the cover. She insisted she was internationally recognized. She told people the whole world knew her face. Again, reality check, none of that was true. And the scary part was, she actually believed her own lies. She said them so many times that her brain rewrote the past. Chapter 3, the ego that killed her career. At first, the lying worked.
Starting point is 03:16:09 People believed she was bigger than she was. Doors opened. But in the influencer world, reputations move fast. And soon, the brand started backing off. Some people said it was because she lost the spark, that her content just wasn't fresh anymore, that the crowd got bored. Others said the real reason was her attitude. She was hard to work with.
Starting point is 03:16:36 She picked fights. She was demanding. She treated small gigs like they. were beneath her, even though she desperately needed them. And when the brands stopped calling, she refused to face reality. She didn't scale back. She didn't think, maybe I should get a side job, maybe I should go back to school, maybe I should ground myself.
Starting point is 03:17:01 No. For Kelsey, giving up the luxury life was the ultimate humiliation. She had spent years selling the world this fantasy. was a star, a celebrity, practically a millionaire. Everyone in Los Angeles thought she was somebody. To admit otherwise, to go work a nine to five, would feel like death to her. So instead, she pivoted. Chapter 4 New Career, Same Fantasy The Instagram world would still see her in designer clothes, posing at photo shoots, sipping champagne. That illusion had to stay alive.
Starting point is 03:17:43 But behind the curtain, a new set of people would be paying for it all. Men Not just boyfriends. Not just dates. Sponsors Older men with money, willing to fund her lifestyle in exchange for her attention. But Kelsey didn't dive headfirst into that world overnight. She tested the waters.
Starting point is 03:18:08 She started small, nights at the club, flirting with guys who looked rich. She'd get them to buy her drinks. Then dinners. Then gifts, flowers, a necklace, a dress here and there. Little by little, she pushed for more. Before long, she wasn't just dating casually. She was actively seeking out men with money, men who could afford to bankroll her. And these guys?
Starting point is 03:18:38 They paid for everything. Rent. Clothes. Cars. Vacations. She had reinvented her hustle. Chapter 5. Enter the Doctor. And that's when he appeared in the story, Thomas Kirk Burchard.
Starting point is 03:19:00 A 70-year-old man with an impressive resume and a lifetime of respect behind him. Thomas was born on February 16, 1948, in Boston, Massachusetts, to a comfortable, educated family. His father, Dr. Charles Henry Burchard, was a big deal, the Dean of the School of Architecture and Urban Studies at the University of Virginia. His mother, Helen Elizabeth, worked as a librarian, also in Virginia. Thomas had a good upbringing. He went to Walnut Hills High School, where he played football and swam. competitively. He was athletic, sharp, and ambitious. He pursued medicine, doing his early
Starting point is 03:19:44 training at Cincinnati Children's Hospital. Eventually, he specialized in child psychiatry, a field where he would spend decades helping kids and earning the admiration of his peers. By the time he settled in Monterey, California, he was already known as a compassionate, respected psychiatrist. He worked at the community hospital. He worked at the community hospital. of the Monterey Peninsula for 40 years. Four decades. That's a lifetime of credibility, trust, and success. He wasn't just a doctor, he was the doctor everyone trusted. The guy parents felt safe handing their kids over to. The man who had a reputation so clean, people struggled to believe he could ever be caught in a scandal.
Starting point is 03:20:31 But behind the curtain, Thomas had a weakness. He was generous, sometimes too generous. He liked helping people, especially young women who looked like they needed saving. And when his path crossed with Kelsey's, that generosity would prove fatal. Chapter 6, The Meeting Kelsey first noticed Thomas at a private event, a charity gala, the kind where everyone smiled for photos but whispered secrets in corners. He wasn't flashy. No designer suit screaming, look at me.
Starting point is 03:21:10 He was understated, composed, confident, the kind of man whose presence demanded attention without demanding it. At first, she didn't care much. He was older, sure, decades older, but he had money, influence, and most importantly, the potential to fund her lifestyle. That alone was enough to spark her interest. Thomas, on the other hand, noticed her immediately. There was something in her eyes, a mix of charm, innocence, and hunger. She had that unmistakable aura of ambition, the kind that's intoxicating to older men who feel needed. He saw her, not as a manipulative girl, but as someone he could guide, protect, and indulge.
Starting point is 03:21:57 They exchanged casual words that night, nothing deep, nothing meaningful. But Kelsey knew how to read opportunity, she flattered him, laughed at his jokes, leaned just enough to make him feel important. By the next week, he was taking her out. Lunches turned into dinners, dinners into trips to exclusive bars, and before long, Thomas was covering expenses she didn't even ask for. Clothes, shoes, flights, everything arrived at her doorstep, always with a note, from Thomas, with care. And Kelsey? She played her role perfectly. Every Instagram post, every story, subtly highlighted her new sponsor, her benefactor, her ticket to the lifestyle she'd been building for years. Chapter 7. The gradual escalation. At first, it was subtle. Thomas paid for dinners, sent flowers. Kelsey enjoyed the gifts but treated them as small victories, tools for her image.
Starting point is 03:23:03 She carefully documented everything for social media, but not too much. She wanted followers to think her life was effortless, glamorous, and spontaneous. Slowly, however, things escalated. She started asking for bigger gifts, a designer handbag here, a pair of limited edition heels there. Thomas, perhaps too smitten or too stubborn to refuse, complied. But each gift added tension. He began expecting a kind of loyalty in return, small gestures, undivided attention, a reassurance that his investment was valued.
Starting point is 03:23:42 Kelsey, on the other hand, didn't see it as a relationship. She saw it as leverage. Every lavish present was a story, every expensive meal of photo opportunity. Thomas was a means, nothing more. Chapter 8, The Warning Signs It didn't take long for the cracks to appear. Kelsey began receiving texts from Thomas, not casual or friendly ones, but calculated, checking in, hinting at disappointment when she didn't respond immediately.
Starting point is 03:24:16 He started appearing unexpectedly at places she frequented, under the guise of concern. Meanwhile, Kelsey kept her usual social media persona alive. Outwardly, she was carefree, untouchable, always in control. But privately, she began to notice his presence could be oppressive. The gifts and attention were no longer entirely free, there was a subtle expectation, a quiet tension she hadn't anticipated. Her instincts, honed from years of self-promotion and manipulation, screamed caution. She knew the power dynamic had shifted. Thomas was no longer just a benefactor, he was invested, deeply.
Starting point is 03:25:00 And deep investment, she realized, could become dangerous. Chapter 9, the first misstep. Everything changed when Thomas arranged a private getaway, a weekend in Monterey. It was supposed to be a casual, indulgent trip, a bonding moment. Kelsey saw it as a free vacation and an Instagram goldmine. She packed her cameras, planned outfits, and imagined the stories she'd post later. But the weekend revealed a truth she hadn't fully considered, Thomas expected exclusivity. He expected her to behave as a companion, not just a performer for social media. He wanted attention, gratitude, acknowledgement, real acknowledgement, not just a pose for the camera.
Starting point is 03:25:49 Kelsey, naturally, balked. She wasn't used to compromise. She couldn't surrender the spotlight, couldn't pretend the trip was anything other than a stage for her persona. Tension built quickly. Words were exchanged, sharp, clipped, like a blade slicing the air. Thomas's quiet authority clashed with her relentless need for attention. By the end of the weekend, she realized two things.
Starting point is 03:26:18 First, Thomas was more controlling than she'd imagined. Second, he had the power to ruin her carefully constructed image if he felt slighted. Chapter 10, The Spiral After the Monterey trip, their interactions became a game of control. Kelsey knew she needed him financially, socially, and in terms of access to lifestyle and connections, but she also knew she couldn't tolerate being dominated. She started walking a thin line, flirting, teasing, maintaining charm, but always keeping her distance emotionally. Thomas, meanwhile, became more insistent, more watchful. Gifts were expected, attention was demanded,
Starting point is 03:27:02 and every slight was catalogued in his mind. Kelsey's social media grew even more provocative. She posted images that suggested independence, wealth and autonomy. Every photo screamed, I am untouchable. But behind the scenes, Thomas's influence loomed, invisible but constant. He funded her, followed her, and waited, patiently, calculatingly. Chapter 11, escalation to danger. Things reached a breaking point the moment Kelsey Kelsey attempted to reduce reliance on Thomas. She wanted freedom from the strings attached to the luxury lifestyle. She wanted independence. She wanted to be in control again. But Thomas could not accept that. To him, the generosity, the gifts, the attention, it was not charity, it was
Starting point is 03:27:58 investment. And when investments are threatened, people react. Kelsey, unaware of the depth of his obsession, started planning her escape, smaller outings without him, fewer gifts accepted, more independence. But Thomas noticed. He started watching, questioning, pressing. Subtle inquiries turned into pressure. He wanted reassurance, and when Kelsey resisted, friction intensified. To be continued, Thomas Kirk Buschard had always been meticulous in his career, disciplined in his personal life, and generous almost to a fault. He worked in some of the most renowned hospitals, climbing the rank steadily, until he settled at the Community Hospital of the Monterey Peninsula in California.
Starting point is 03:28:47 There he spent 40 years, building a reputation as a respected and trusted physician, particularly in child psychiatry. He was admired for his calm demeanor, his ability to connect with patients, and his willingness to go above and beyond when a patient or a colleague needed health. Yet, in his personal life, Thomas's story was more complicated. He had never had children of his own, had been married once, and then widowed. In the 2000s, he started dating a woman named Judy, who was 19 years younger than him. Judy came into the relationship with her own children and quickly noticed something remarkable
Starting point is 03:29:26 about Thomas, his generosity. Judy would later describe him as a man who, while careful with his own spending, would give freely to others in need. Friends, neighbors, even patients facing financial hardship would find Thomas quietly covering expenses like textbooks, medical bills, or other essentials. It wasn't just small gestures either. He could be extravagant if he believed the situation required it. But what really stood out was the pattern, much of his generosity was directed toward young women in vulnerable positions, single mothers, women without homes, women struggling with addiction or caught in cycles of misfortune.
Starting point is 03:30:07 On paper, this could have seemed altruistic, even noble. A man dedicated to helping those less fortunate, quietly improving lives. But the deeper reality was far murkier, a shadow that began to reveal itself over time. By 2017, Thomas began showing early signs of cognitive decline. Judy noticed it first in small, unsettling ways, he'd forget how to operate the television, misplace his phone, failed to recognize acquaintances, even forget family members' names. He started misplacing significant amounts of cash, carrying bundles with him and then losing them, sometimes for days. These signs of dementia worried Judy deeply.
Starting point is 03:30:53 It was during this period of vulnerability and mental decline that Thomas crossed paths with Kelsey Turner. How they met exactly remains uncertain, but online forums and rumors suggest various possibilities. Some said he approached her through social media, offering financial support in exchange for content, photos, videos, and perhaps more. At the outset, their relationship seemed transactional. Kelsey, portraying herself as a struggling single mother, sent images to Thomas in return for money. Thomas, in turn, saw this as a harmless indulgence, an extension of his generosity, perhaps even a way to feel needed as he slipped further into forgetfulness. Initially, it was a business deal, nothing personal, no romantic involvement, no intimate contact.
Starting point is 03:31:44 But gradually, the dynamic evolved into an addiction for Thomas. He craved more interaction, more attention, more content. He poured money into Kelsey's life, paying for clothes, accessories, even renting her a car and a residence. According to Judy, Thomas never intended for the relationship to cross physical boundaries. He rationalized every payment as support for a struggling young mother. He convinced himself he was helping a child and a family, investing in their well-being. Meanwhile, Kelsey's ambitions and manipulation escalated. She quickly realized the potential to turn Thomas's generosity into a continuous stream of resource.
Starting point is 03:32:27 Initially, it might have been small things, clothing, personal items, but soon, she demanded far more. Her lifestyle in Las Vegas began to mirror the luxurious Instagram persona she had cultivated for years, extravagant parties, designer bags, luxury clothing, and all the accessories one could imagine. She wasn't just receiving gifts anymore, she was orchestrating a fantasy life, fueled entirely by Thomas's money, and increasingly, by her own audacious manipulations. Kelsey made it clear she wouldn't settle for modest allowances or small gestures. She wanted a full experience of wealth and influence, a lifestyle she believed was her birthright. Thomas, weakened by dementia and persuaded by her portrayal of herself as a struggling mother,
Starting point is 03:33:17 complied. Over time, he spent approximately $50,000 supporting Kelsey's endeavors in Las Vegas. During these months, Kelsey's deception extended further. She wasn't raising her son alone as she claimed to Thomas. In reality, the household in Las Vegas was far from isolated. Living with her were her boyfriend Logan, whose real name was John Kennison, and two other young adults, Jeremy and Diana Payna. Kelsey presented a carefully curated allusion to Thomas, the house seemed orderly, focused on her and the child alone. Whenever Thomas visited, he was shown a sanitized version of reality.
Starting point is 03:34:00 The living space was immaculate, Kelsey acted like the devoted mother, and the child appeared well cared for. Behind the façade, however, life in that house was chaotic. Reports from neighbors described loud arguments, constant parties, and a rotating cast of visitors. Thomas, relying on the impression Kelsey crafted, remained unaware of the full truth. Judy, ever the vigilant observer, began piecing together fragments of information from complaints and inconsistencies. She suspected that Kelsey's operation was far more elaborate and manipulative than Thomas realized. Tensions peaked on March 1, 2019. Judy, concerned by the ongoing rumors,
Starting point is 03:34:46 decided to confront the situation herself. She went to the house unannounced, only to find it in complete disarray. The house was not just messy, it was a controlled chaos designed to appear normal when Thomas visited. Beyond Kelsey and her son, Judy discovered multiple occupants, her boyfriend Logan, Jeremy, Diana Payna, and even additional associates. The reality shattered the illusion of Kelsey's solitary domestic life and revealed the extent of her manipulation. Kelsey's ability to orchestrate such a complex web of deception illustrated her skill in controlling narratives and exploiting trust. Thomas, vulnerable due to age and cognitive
Starting point is 03:35:28 decline, was the perfect target. He provided her with substantial resources while remaining largely oblivious to the wider context, trusting in the portrayal she carefully maintained. At this point, it becomes clear that Kelsey's pattern of behavior was not just operational. She cultivated trust, exploited vulnerabilities, and ensured that the appearance of normalcy, whether to Thomas, the public, or her social media followers, remained intact. Each transaction, each interaction, was calibrated to maximize gain while minimizing scrutiny. This period in Las Vegas marked a critical turning point. Kelsey had transitioned from aspirational social media influencer to a master
Starting point is 03:36:15 manipulator operating in real-world dynamics. Her ambitions were no longer confined to online personas, they had manifested into a tangible, high-stakes scheme, involving real people, significant sums of money, and the reputations of all involved. From Thomas's perspective, every dollar spent was an act of generosity, a continuation of his lifelong pattern of supporting those in need. Yet, the scale and consequences of Kelsey's exploitation began to strain relationships, destabilized the household, and place everyone involved in precarious positions. Judy's intervention, although limited in scope, underscored the potential dangers that were now materializing.
Starting point is 03:36:59 Kelsey, aware of the delicate balance, acted with precision. She knew she needed Thomas's approval, support, and ongoing financial contributions. She also knew that maintaining the illusion required constant attention, managing appearances for him, controlling the environment in Las Vegas, and ensuring that every narrative, whether real or fabricated, reinforced her desired image. Thus, the stage was set for a dramatic confrontation, one that combined elements of deception, exploitation, and human vulnerability. The interplay of Kelsey's cunning, Thomas's cognitive decline, and Judy's vigilant oversight
Starting point is 03:37:38 created a scenario where reality and illusion collided, setting the scene for a series of events that would ultimately have far-reaching consequences. Judy's discovery at the Las Vegas house was just the tip of the iceberg. Walking into the chaos, she realized how thoroughly Kelsey had orchestrated this web. It wasn't just about living arrangements, it was the entire ecosystem she had built. Every interaction, every visit from Thomas, every transaction of money was a key. carefully staged performance. Kelsey knew exactly what Thomas needed to see to maintain his trust and generosity, and she delivered it flawlessly. Logan, whose real name was John Kennison, played a
Starting point is 03:38:22 critical supporting role. He wasn't just Kelsey's boyfriend, he was a facilitator, a co-conspirator in maintaining appearances. He ensured that Thomas never saw the full chaos of the house, that the child appeared well cared for, and that Kelsey's story remained consistent. Then there were Jeremy and Diana Payna, who acted as part of the extended cast, creating distractions and helping sustain the illusion of a normal household. Each person had a role, and Kelsey was the director, orchestrating it all with meticulous precision. From Thomas's perspective, everything seemed perfectly ordinary. He saw a young mother struggling, working to raise her child.
Starting point is 03:39:04 and doing her best despite hardships. In his mind, every dollar spent was a charitable act, every delivery of clothes or rent payment a lifeline. But the reality, as Judy witnessed, was starkly different. Kelsey wasn't just asking for help, she was commanding resources, creating a lifestyle for herself and her inner circle that Thomas could never have anticipated.
Starting point is 03:39:29 And Thomas, vulnerable as he was, didn't question it. His memory lapses and early dementia made him increasingly dependent on the narratives Kelsey presented. He trusted her judgment, believed her story, and was blind to the manipulations happening right under his nose. His mind rationalized the spending as benevolent, reinforcing the fantasy Kelsey had created. Kelsey, on the other hand, thrived in this environment. She was living out the persona she had cultivated online for years, the glamorous, untouchable, provocatively confident influencer who could command attention, money, and admiration at will. She was no longer just a social media personality, she was a master manipulator
Starting point is 03:40:14 translating her online skills into real-world power. The next several months saw her lifestyle escalate. She rented increasingly lavish apartments, purchased high-end clothing, and through parties that seemed spontaneous but were actually carefully curated for maximum effect. Every detail was considered, the photos posted online, the narrative shared with Thomas, and the interactions with other men who might contribute financially. She had learned to turn attention into currency, and now, with Thomas as a primary benefactor, the scale of that currency grew exponentially. Yet, Kelsey wasn't content with just maintaining her gains.
Starting point is 03:40:56 She was ambitious, always calculating, always looking for the next leverage point. At this stage, her manipulation became more assertive. Thomas, who had once set limits on his generosity, now found himself ensnared in Kelsey's expanding demands. She positioned herself as the indispensable link between him and the narrative of a struggling mother he wanted to support. His consent, his trust, became tools in her arsenal, and she wielded them with precision. It was around this time that the tension between Kelsey and Judy reached a boy. boiling point. Judy, having observed inconsistencies and warning signs, attempted to intervene. She confronted Thomas directly, cautioning him about Kelsey's influence and the potential
Starting point is 03:41:42 for exploitation. Thomas, however, convinced himself that his generosity was virtuous, that he was providing essential support to someone in need. He rationalized Kelsey's extravagance as part of her lifestyle needs, refusing to acknowledge the extent of her deception. Kelsey, realizing that Judy represented a threat to her financial pipeline, escalated her tactics. She began applying pressure directly to Thomas, using both subtle manipulation and overt threats. She implied that if he failed to comply with her demands, she would reveal false claims of impropriety that could destroy his reputation. Thomas, already anxious about his cognitive lapses and the fragility of his public image, became increasingly compliant. During this period, Kelsey also refined her methods for extracting resources from other wealthy men.
Starting point is 03:42:37 She had learned the art of strategic seduction, charm, and psychological leverage. She attended exclusive nightclubs, networked with affluent men, and presented herself as the ideal combination of innocence and allure. Gifts, luxury experiences, and financial support flowed steadily into her hands. She created a cycle of dependency, where her benefactors felt to see. essential to her well-being while she reaped the material rewards. Meanwhile, Thomas continued to live in a bubble of perceived benevolence. His interactions with Kelsey reinforced his belief that he was helping a young, struggling mother. Every gift, every transaction, felt like a continuation of a lifelong pattern of
Starting point is 03:43:21 generosity. Yet, unbeknownst to him, Kelsey's operations were growing increasingly audacious, extending beyond his awareness to include her partners and accomplices in Las Vegas. The turning point came when Kelsey's web of manipulation collided with external scrutiny. Complaints from neighbors, inconsistencies in her stories, and the sheer extravagance of her lifestyle attracted attention. Judy, motivated by concern for Thomas, began to investigate, uncovering discrepancies that revealed the depth of Kelsey's deception. At this juncture, Kelsey faced a dilemma. She could continue exploiting Thomas at the same pace, risking exposure, or she could strategically escalate her demands to secure a more permanent arrangement.
Starting point is 03:44:10 She chose the latter, leveraging Thomas' fears, anxieties, and desire for control to extract the maximum financial and material gain. This period marked a critical intensification of her manipulative strategy. In parallel, Kelsey's public persona continued to flourish. She maintained a meticulously curated social media presence, showcasing her lifestyle, her perceived independence, and her supposed success. Followers admired her for her style, charisma, and confidence, unaware of the underlying manipulations that facilitated her lavish life.
Starting point is 03:44:48 Her image as a powerful, self-made influencer became both a shield and a weapon, allowing her to navigate public scrutiny while continuing to extract resources from her private network of benefactors. The consequences of Kelsey's actions were profound. Thomas's cognitive decline and vulnerability made him an easy target, while Judy's limited interventions could only partially mitigate the damage. Kelsey's manipulation created a delicate balance between perception and reality, where appearances were carefully managed, but the underlying dynamics of exploitation and control became.
Starting point is 03:45:23 increasingly unsustainable. By late 2018, the financial, emotional, and ethical stakes had reached a peak. Thomas had spent tens of thousands of dollars supporting Kelsey, while she simultaneously maintained multiple narratives, managed a complex household in Las Vegas, and cultivated her public image as an independent, glamorous influencer. The disparity between perception and reality created a tension that was both dramatic and precarious, setting the stage for eventual confrontation and accountability. By early 2019, the situation had become increasingly complex. Kelsey Turner was no longer just a social media influencer or a young woman living lavishly in Las Vegas, she had evolved into a strategist, a manipulator who could read people like open
Starting point is 03:46:13 books and bend circumstances to her will. Every interaction with Thomas was calculated, Every text, call, and social media post carefully choreographed to maintain the illusion he so desperately clung to. Judy's suspicions had only grown stronger. She started digging deeper into the Las Vegas property, checking records, and cross-referencing what Kelsey claimed versus what was actually happening. The first clue that something was off came when neighbors began to complain about noise, parties, and unusual traffic to and from the house. Someone was always coming and going, visitors, deliveries, cars that didn't belong to Kelsey or the supposed child she was raising. When Judy visited unannounced on March 1, 2019, what she saw confirmed her worst fears. The house was messy, chaotic, far from the carefully maintained environment Kelsey had presented to Thomas.
Starting point is 03:47:10 And it wasn't just Kelsey there. Logan, the so-called boyfriend, was lounging on the couch. indifferent to Judy's presence. Jeremy and Diana Payna were moving about, setting up for yet another social gathering. The child, ostensibly the sole focus of the household, seemed like an afterthought, quietly tucked away while the adults maintained the facade of order. Judy confronted Kelsey that day. The conversation was explosive.
Starting point is 03:47:41 Kelsey, far from apologetic, doubled down on her stories, claiming that everything Thomas believed was true. She justified the presence of additional people as part of her extended family unit, a way to manage her business and social life. Every excuse was rehearsed, every denial precise, but the tension in the air was undeniable. Judy left the house shaken, realizing the depth of Kelsey's deception and manipulation. At this point, Kelsey's financial operations were operating at a new level. She was no longer just relying on Thomas, she had expanded her network.
Starting point is 03:48:19 Wealthy men in her orbit were now regular contributors, whether through gifts, funding for housing, or direct financial support. Every interaction was a transaction, every relationship a means to maintain and expand her lifestyle. Her public persona, provocative, confident, glamorous, masked an intricate web of control and influence behind the scenes. Thomas, meanwhile, remained largely unaware of the full extent of the manipulation. His dementia and general trust in Kelsey prevented him from noticing inconsistencies or probing too deeply. Each time he visited Las Vegas, he was presented with a perfect scene, Kelsey attentive, the child cared for, the house tidy. His heart told him he was helping, doing good.
Starting point is 03:49:07 Yet behind the closed doors, the reality was carefully curated and rehearsed to prevent discovery. By mid-2019, Kelsey's ambitions began to shift. She no longer needed just money and luxury, she wanted independence and control. She realized that as long as Thomas remained unaware of the full picture, he could be manipulated indefinitely. But she also recognized that living under his shadow had limits, she needed to create a sustained, plan to keep her lifestyle going without being entirely dependent on one person. This led to a series of increasingly audacious maneuvers. Kelsey expanded her social media presence even further. She hired photographers, stylists, and publicists to elevate her profile. Every post, story,
Starting point is 03:49:59 and video reinforced the narrative of her glamorous life, the persona of a successful influencer who commanded attention, admiration, and envy. Meanwhile, her offline life remained tightly controlled, every movement designed to preserve the illusion for Thomas and anyone else who might scrutinize her. At the same time, her tactics for extracting money evolved. She cultivated relationships with new wealthy men, using charm, subtle flotation, and psychological leverage. Gifts, luxury items, and financial support became routine. She developed an almost instinctual understanding of how to push boundaries without triggering resistance. She learned when to apply pressure, when to offer reassurance, and how to present herself as both
Starting point is 03:50:46 vulnerable and desirable, a combination that kept benefactors eager to comply. Kelsey also mastered the art of narrative control. She ensured that Thomas always received updates and communications that reinforced his perception of her as a struggling, deserving young mother. Texts were sent at calculated intervals, photos were curated to show order and care, and interactions with the child were emphasized to evoke empathy and reinforce his belief in his own generosity. Even the small discrepancies were explained away with plausible excuses, maintaining the illusion of honesty and trustworthiness. Yet, the tension between Kelsey and Judy continued to simmer.
Starting point is 03:51:29 Judy, deeply concerned about Thomas's vulnerability, increased her surveillance. She began documenting discrepancies, taking note of unusual financial transactions, and observing interactions at the Las Vegas property. Every warning sign she uncovered only deepened her concern, revealing the extent of Kelsey's calculated manipulation. By late 2019, the stakes escalated dramatically. Kelsey, now fully aware of the leverage she held over Thomas, began issuing veiled threats, implying that any attempt to challenge her could result in reputational damage or exposure of false claims.
Starting point is 03:52:09 Thomas, increasingly anxious and aware of his cognitive limitations, became even more compliant, funneling resources to Kelsey at an accelerated pace. Kelsey's ambitions didn't stop there. She began plotting larger moves, considering ways to do that. secure long-term financial stability and independence. She explored real estate investments, luxury goods acquisitions, and expanding her influence in social circles that could provide additional support and opportunities. Each step was calculated, each decision apiece in a larger puzzle designed to maximize personal gain while minimizing risk. Throughout all of this,
Starting point is 03:52:50 Kelsey's public persona remained immaculate. Social media posts showed a confident, glamorous young woman thriving in Las Vegas, a picture-perfect influencer living the life of her dreams. Behind the scenes, however, the intricate network of deception continued to operate, maintained through careful manipulation, strategic charm, and the exploitation of trust. The culmination of these events set the stage for inevitable confrontation. Judy, armed with observations, evidence, and growing concern for Thomas, became an active counterforce. She began coordinating with legal advisors, compiling documentation, and preparing to intervene in ways that could disrupt Kelsey's operations.
Starting point is 03:53:36 The tension between the meticulously curated illusion and the reality of exploitation created a palpable sense of impending crisis. Kelsey, aware of increasing scrutiny, intensified her efforts to control the narrative. She refined her tactics with Thomas, escalated pressure on any potential challengers, and ensured that every aspect of her life, public and private, supported the image she wanted to project. Her strategy was a combination of audacity, manipulation, and calculated charm, allowing her to maintain dominance while minimizing exposure. As 2020 approached, the situation reached a critical point.
Starting point is 03:54:17 Kelsey's manipulations, Thomas's vulnerability, and Judy's interventions were converging. The intricate web of deception, exploitation, and the intricate web of deception, exploitation, and and social performance had grown so complex that any misstep could trigger exposure. Yet Kelsey's confidence, skill, and audacity allowed her to continue navigating this perilous landscape, maintaining control while expanding her influence and material gain. To be continued.

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