Some More News - Dead-Eyed Nazi Freaks, Bathroom Bodyguards, and EVEN MORE Onomatologists

Episode Date: March 10, 2023

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Hello and welcome back to even more news the first and only news podcast my name is katie stole hello and welcome back to this part of even more news the first and only news podcast where i say hi i'm cody hi cody johnston okay let the crowd let the crowd dissipate okay no guest but of course jonathan's here hello hi hello and hi hi hello hello gentlemen how's it going hello gentle lady so good uh how are you i'm good are you thanks for holding down the fort for me last week hey you got it thanks for your patience listeners in my absence we do this so often i like completely forgot that you weren't here they all blend together it's like oh yeah kitty's always here uh how is your miss me you didn't miss that's not true i texted you

immediately saying we missed you i said we missed you yep so don't prove it no he did he texted me that he missed me i am doing fine i'm doing well uh i have been dealing with weather you guys already heard me rammed a little bit before we, and I don't need to do that whole thing for everybody because it's a little bitter. But, no, this has just been a lot, this intense snowstorm that has not been normal. Not only is this not normal for the area or my elevation, I specifically moved somewhere at a kind of a lower elevation so that I wouldn't be inundated with snow. But, you know, it was supposed to be in El Nino. It wasn't this wasn't supposed to happen, but had a solid week of heavy snow before a two day blizzard and then had like a day and a half break before the next big storm came and uh that ended up being a bit longer and heavier than expected and now there is a giant

atmospheric river that's about to hit tonight maybe while we're recording that might cause a bunch of flooding in this area and in the communities down the mountain so that's the next big thing to watch out for because it's going to be a bunch of warm pineapple express rain on our record historic levels of snow which will either make it melt or the snow might absorb it, so it becomes really immovable. I'm a little worried about that in terms of my roof. Giant chunks of ice just sort of, yeah. Giant chunks of ice.

In terms of access to my house, it's very difficult to get around right now, but I have finished my tunneling. I've cleared out the generator, the propane tank. I've gotten a path to the garden shed and sort of a path to this garden shed and sort of a path to the garage I accomplished today that was hard so at least you're dominating that mountain life Katie you're doing it I'm not they're like the tiniest most pathetic little tiny paths that's

that count that's all you need move through you don't need bigger paths it's called efficiency if you did too much that you don't need that's the energy that you could have used elsewhere me it's taken me so many days to get this because the first day was just trying to like dig out my car and that's fun every time it snows more you have to clean off everything off of your car before you can do anything that takes a half hour and you're like anyway i'm getting really buff i know that's what everybody is wondering good is it a el nino or a la nina i don't know the difference la nina there's different there's el nino and la nina and i guess the nina was the one that means you're not gonna have much winter and that that was wrong

punctatani phil yeah la nina is when the groundhog sees its shadow. Yeah. El Nino is winter. Exactly. But it has been kind of exciting to deal like in learning everything and you know, learning what not to do next year. Lots of that. Well, yeah, it's also good because I mean, it's good in quotes, but you

if this wasn't supposed to happen and it's the worst it's ever been, then you've got it out of the way next year even when it is like it's kind of bad it's like the snow for a day or whatever like you'll be able to deal with it and it'll comparatively be a breeze unless this is the new normal I don't know shh don't talk about that

or you'll have to look up like there'll be something else that hasn't happened in 150 years and that'll happen yeah next year unseasonable it turns out you actually moved on to a volcano sorry katie no it's good i'm tired i'm very tired uh everything's fine uh you know it's roads are cleared there's lots of people that help each other out. Lots of people with heavy tractors and plows and snowblowers going around. Volcano folk are very helpful.

Yeah, volcano folk are very friendly. Despite what the news might say. Yeah, don't listen to the news. Anyway, that's what I've been up to. Thank you for your patience. Thank you, dear listeners and followers, for giving me those likes on my snow picks. Lots of encouragement. It's the least we could do.

Getting a message from them now. You're welcome. Oh, that's so nice. Yeah. They're very responsive. Let's talk about some holidays, shall we? Happy that idea. holidays everyone all right thursday march 9th that's today that's today name tag day huh uh this is this is not a well cat

no no this is uh a jerry hill original yeah like well cat would be like lick your name tag day or something like they have to add like a weirder twist on it i feel okay so this is a whole week of celebrations okay yeah jerry hill is a he's an onomatopoeia hobbyist who created a week it's not a real thing is it i i looked it up there i not every university can let you get an onomatology degree, but there are some around the world where you can. But he was not an onomatologist. He was an onomatology hobbyist because he just was obsessed with names and created Name Fun Facts Day, Unique Names Day, Learn What Your Name Means Day, and created a whole website, which you can go to. I love websites. I'm really interested to know his story as to how he got so deep on names,

like this passion of his. And also, hats off to him. You know, a lot of people, there's that saying, right? Do what you love and you'll never work a day. It's not true. You'll ruin your favorite hobby by making it work. So what this gentleman has done i'm sorry what's his name jerry hill it's jerry hill it was just a name thing it doesn't matter um wait this is a

web archive of his website does it is a web does he not have a website anymore i don't believe i mean this was from 25 years ago so i'm not sure he kept up with it yeah that explains it I mean the on the web archive of the website it opens with we've outgrown two servers so I don't know if this uh I mean Elon Musk took it over so that's why I might be having oh it's having a season

all right Thursday March 9th is panic day why would you make this a holiday run around all day in a panic telling others you can't handle it anymore i can't handle it anymore we don't i mean you can celebrate it i don't i'm not celebrating it but we're gonna talk about some moral panics later so oh good okay so we can panic then put a pin in that one panic on the podcast um this is uh obviously a well cat holiday yeah there's no way for sure you know god it's such insight into their like run around

all day in a panic telling others you can't handle it anymore that's absurd do you think that was some passive because they're a couple? Do you think this is like a passive aggressive one from her husband or vice versa? Where you're like kind of poking fun like, honey, you need to calm down and then make You'd probably call it hysterics day if that were the case, right? It could be. They're so playful though. You're being hysterical. I do feel like they maybe came up with them back and forth and had a little holiday creating

competition like Paul McCartney and Brian Wilson. You know, they try to like one up each other with playful holidays. One of them ends up in bed. Gosh, I hope they've started listening to our show by now because we talk about them every week. We talk about them so much. I feel bad almost like of bringing them into this. Jonathan, I think

we should reach out again and have them actually come on the show. I'd like to interview them. They shut me ones with the website. Actually come on the show. I'd like to interview them. They shut me down so thoroughly when I reached out, though. I'd feel bad about bothering them. I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll make this happen. I hope his response is I've already answered this in another email.

Friday, March 10th. That's today. Also, that's a different today. If you're today that you're listening to this, assuming that you are listening to this when it was released which you should do welcome to the day it is podcast which is friday march 10th uh festival of life in the cracks day is to celebrate the first signs of spring weather such as the green sprouts sprouting from cracks in the pavement. Origins unknown. I feel like this is so mean. You're celebrating, Katie.

I wish I could bring the camera and show you how impossible it is to look for any sorts of green sprouts. Well, that's what makes it such a fun day. It's a challenge. I gotta go do some more digging, I see. You gotta dig in there and find the cracks. Oh, boy. Very awkwardly phrased explanation explanation of the day also yeah the green sprouts sprouting from cracks in the pavement yeah let's do a second pass what are you what are you doing yeah it's it sounds like walt whitman yeah the green sprouts sprouting from the yeah i think walt would have would he

yeah okay the green sprouts sprouting if you're really purposeful with it but i don't think that I think Walt would have Yeah okay The green sprouts sprouting If you're really purposeful with it but I don't think that was Or yeah I think it's worse I'll just put them all on different lines and then it's Yeah I like that style I do like E.E. Cummings It's like a puzzle

There's that 311 song Have we talked about this before E.E. Cummings It'll kill them Wait is that a song Yeah 311 EE coming EE coming that'll kill them right wait is that a song yeah 311's a ridiculous band

but he doesn't he doesn't say EE coming but it just sounds a little bit like yeah yeah he doesn't no

I can't believe I knew exactly what you were talking about but he doesn't even say that no it's keep me coming right yeah

I've never I've never even thought that he said EE comingE. Cummings. That connection has never been. Could Cody cover that song with E.E. Cummings and then we wouldn't get sued if we did that? Maybe. We'll find out.

No, we'd definitely get sued. Oh, I don't know if we'd get sued. 311 loves the show. But I don't think you can perform a faithful cover of a song and change one phrase and then it's parody. Not even one phrase. Like two, like half a word, right? Because like coming is still in the song. Keep me to E.E.

This sounds like a Nathan Fielder thing. Like, here's the plan. We change one word. We change one word to get it on the radio. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mark it as parody. Weird Al has a whole world ahead of him. He could just change one word to all the songs.

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I think we gotta talk about some news now. Yeah, well, you know. We're so pumped for the news. Gotta happen sometime. Can't wait. Chomping at the bit for some news bite. Yeah, well, you know. We're so pumped. Gotta happen sometime. Can't wait. Chomping at the bit for some news bites. Yummy. Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum.

As I suggested, we're gonna talk about moral panics for Panic Day. Good. We're gonna run around and act like the sky is falling. The anti-trans panic in this country

is escalating very quickly. I mean, it's been escalating, but there's a lot going on. There's been a lot going on this past week. They feel emboldened and like they can, like all the legislation and stuff, because we've covered various bills that have been introduced and things, but it feels like they're just like, oh, we're just doing this now. This is it. And so many state legislatures and then like, yeah, pundits are just all in, not even trying

to really hide the things that they're saying. Yeah. Well, Jonathan, why don't you talk to us? Let's just start off with a few of the things that have happened of late. Yeah, a lot of bills have been passed in the last few weeks or proposed. Tennessee banned public drag shows. Tennessee, Mississippi, and Florida banned gender affirming care for minors. Similar bills are making their way through states like New Hampshire and Oklahoma and others. The stuff I put here is far from exhaustive. There are also some bills that we know are not going to become law.

But of course, now that the House is under GOP control, they've put forward a bill and discussed it this week to ban transgender women and girls from team sports. Obviously, that's dead on arrival in the Senate if they pass it, but it's just frightening that so much time and energy is being spent on this stuff. And then, of course, Daily Wire guy Michael Knowles spoke at CPAC, I think over the weekend, and said there can be no middle way in dealing with transgenderism. Transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely.

He did say that. He sure did. And pretend like he didn't mean what he definitely meant. There's no other way to parse what he said. Like, you know. I mean, there's a way for him to like weasel out of it. No, I mean, is there? Because I rewatched it a few times and it's like, no, he says that.

And that's what he means. That's because he's going to he's going to do his little logic puzzles and try to say he's not saying like trans people. He's just saying the ideology of transgenderism, the idea uh transness is even a reality but if you're saying that transgenderism must be eradicated the idea is uh of transgenderism is just that trans people exist so if you're going to eradicate transgenderism then you're eradicating the idea that trans people exist so what do you mean um he's just i mean he's like a a failed actor little weasel i refer to him as a dead-eyed nazi freak on twitter and i stand by that i don't know if you've seen any video many videos of him this is like a side note but just he seems like he's um dead-eyed nazi freak a little like yeah i don't believe it he's like the uh they're

all like ever you know punditry and like you know it all you're condescending you're smart he's really smarmy in a way that makes him seem like you don't believe anything you're saying or you don't have emotions um and like this the fake smile everything about it is really really uh unsettling yeah there's like a discomfort i get from watching him talk about anything because like you are there's something up with the way you're presenting yourself that it's just doesn't sit right um yeah which is like irrelevant to like them too but yeah but but like it's not like that's a side thing it's not like the important thing is like what he said and what they're trying to do not that he's fucked up guy they're pretending because they know it's not an ideology like they know there's no thought

process they know that no one's trying to turn other people trans so they're pretending he's like no i just said the ism as if i said socialism should be eradicated and then of course people are pointing out like but this isn't an ideology this is a group of people and of course the analogy that is most commonly used is this is like if you said judaism or catholicism must be eradicated which is of course the implication and of course what he meant but he can always he it's like yeah they refuse to own it he's just lying and worming his way out. Yeah, they know he knows. And he said this in so many words, like a couple of times before this speech.

So like he knows the reaction he gets from it. He knows why he's doing it. He knows that like this is like genocidal language. He knows this is how like fucking Nazis talk and like how these ideas are like introduced as well. Like we eradicate from public life. well what does that mean um it means uh just like things were no no you need to like label like what policies do you mean to eradicate this from public life and the more you do that what does that lead to um because they also they also are aware that like the suicide rate for trans people is very high and if you are going to quote unquote eradicate transgenderism from public life then

that's probably going to go up because you're making people hide who they are and uh not be able to participate in public life um so what does that do to people um so like even if he's not if he even if he doesn't mean what we're what most people kind of hear when he says that it still does what that is saying it's still accomplishing that because you're going to make people not be able to like participate in public life and have to hide themselves absolutely um it's very obvious and he knows what he's doing is just i mean we've been talking about it for so long so it's another one of those topics where you start to repeat yourself but it's hard not to we have to point out that this is it this isn't something for people to be afraid of

there are transgender people out there that want to be accepted it is not an ideology that is coming for your children if your child is transgender wouldn't you want them to have a community in a place that they are welcomed and that you know and just in general to be accepted as who they are you know so, but this whole thing is predicated on the argument that the woke left is coming for your babies with this new cult of whatever. And they know that's not what we're talking about. They know that that's not what's happening, but this is their best way to get votes right now.

It's all anybody wants to talk about. It doesn't have to be that big a fucking deal. Everyone calm the fuck down. It's panic day. I know, but stop. Also, as we'll probably discuss a little later, it's actually not how to get votes. It's not their only way to get votes. No.

But unfortunately, no, I know. I know. That's what they are saying. And that's what they think. And that's what these like, their mission is basically. But also, I mean, part of the, another reason it's happening is because like, unfortunately, the answer to your question about like, well, if you have a trans kid, wouldn't you want like a community that's like supportive and welcomes them and like it helps them through life? Unfortunately, the answer to that question for somebody like Matt Walsh is no. He's said in so many words and several times,

like having a trans kid is a fate worse than death to me. He, I feel so bad for his six children. If any of them turns out to be trans or gay or whatever, feel really, really bad for them, obviously. But like he,

he is a fundamentalist, like theocratic fascist. That is what he is. He jokes about it in his bio, but that is what he is. He's all of this stuff stuff at least with him and a lot of people the daily wire comes from their fundamentalist religious beliefs that's what that is which is why if you actually talk to people it's so off-putting when you actually talk to to real people about it like because it the source of it is this fundamentalist

religious uh belief where they want to enact all these like restrictions on people um and also like i mean yesterday uh or the day before everything blends together uh he was tweeting about how like actually like normal people agree with me uh normal people if you talk to normal people about it they would agree with me and they think this is all it's all like all this kind of stuff and that that's all. First of all, Matt Walsh, you're a fucking freak. You are not normal.

You are the least normal person. Listen to anything you've ever said. You're not fucking normal, man. Nobody agrees with you. You're a freak. And there are so many people replying to that tweet of his basically just being like, yeah,

I've got like a MAGA uncle and a MAGA dad. And one of our cousins, one of my cousins is trans and suddenly they're cool with it like they're like oh yeah i guess it's not a big deal i'll call them they they like the the exposure to literally a trans person changes these people's minds so quickly and so easily it's really depressing actually um that like it requires that like real world interaction to be like oh yeah i guess i was fucking bigot or buy it buys for these reasons but it's but it's also good it's good and it's just we could see that throughout history all

the time you know desegregation and people you know once people literally just exposure to meet a black person they're like oh you know yeah exactly the same with this this is a big you know this is a new thing for some people okay well then meet somebody meet go and talk to somebody and i you know i had that conversation with somebody up here recently actually and they're like yeah that's true i'm like you you just you haven't met any trans people and they're i mean i'm not going to speak for everybody but i know amazing trans people that you would absolutely love yeah they're just people some people some people suck some people don't and that is heartening too to know like just like even just these conversations

like just like think about it because i also noticed i don't know if anyone's noticed this like twitter i've talked about this a little bit before but like twitter is obviously like fucking it's always been a bad place oh it's real bad now i've sort of noticed like every day uh there's like a video being shared of like a young woman who can't quite articulate her point and then it's like look at how fucking stupid girls are and that kind of thing or like you know a black person doing something that's like inappropriate like oh god we got to get away from the black people or like you know a trans woman uh getting upset about being misgendered and like look at how they're all freak out it's like it's just these like one this one case that influences your entire opinion about an entire

group of people and it just seems to be happening more and more on that website i don't know if anyone else has noticed that this is like really it seems bad i would say that it's always been happening i would for sure that because you know you see it different but yeah the way the algorithm the way who's using it uh what rises the top what people are talking about yeah it gets it's bad it's it been bad. It's getting badder. They're kind of hacking the new algorithm to make these conversations last longer. I don't know if you follow Ryan Broderick, but he has a newsletter called Garbage Day, and he was writing about this stuff where he's like,

yeah, I noticed that if something I tweeted, a thread that I was on gets a little bit of traction, if I wait two days and then come back and reply to it with something that reply boosts it up again and that's like a newer thing where it think like it always did that to a little to a certain extent if if a new person who has a big following yeah like engaged with it he's like but if i just reply to something it boosts it up and that's why i'm seeing you know the the back and forth between uh like matt walsh and ari drennan like back and forth we're like right that that tweet of like matt walsh saying no i'm the normal one normal people agree with me and normal people would be like disgusted by you

of like that kind of messaging like being boosted to the top every every every other day right yeah where it's like okay i already saw that and i already disagree with that fucking freak and i gotta see it every day and then yeah it seems like and i suppose i could just block him and block elon and block all these people but like i'm i you know i use these conversations to do research for this podcast to put stuff together i'm interested in what's going on and just to see the intensely negative uh intensely discriminatory message over and over again and it you know to jump back into them when they jump back into it two days later they get a boost out of it that's that's unpleasant it's

absolutely it is unpleasant it's absolutely happening and it's a thing i mean yes it always has been a thing but i've noticed a big difference that's always been like maybe not always but for a while been a tweet strategy of mine sometimes especially if i'm trying to be funny like i very rarely use it with serious i honestly i very rarely use twitter seriously lately anyway because it's i i'd rather save up my thoughts for this right now and then get picked apart and pulled into arguments but you know that reply i've always done that reply tweet structure and i've noticed when i do it now there's like a significant like why the heck did this one do yeah this is a stupid joke oh because it gets more attention when you do the sub tweet whatever reply yeah

um i'd like to really quick go back yeah to important things yeah well uh to some of the knoll stuff too because yeah and you know he's gonna keep doing this and he wants to do it for basically like it's for publicity and like he wants okay well stay tuned for my explanation on my show it's not you didn't add anything. It's like, uh, you're, you're doing this like vague genocidal language and like, oh, don't worry. I'll explain about it on my show. It's just promotion for him and his, uh, failed actor show.

But a few things I think are not even interesting, just like worth pointing out. Cause he's saying like, you know, we got to eradicate transgender public life entirely. And people rightfully are like, what do you mean by that? Like give a policy, like explain what you mean. Literally just like do you're a communicator, you're a professional communicator. And you gave a speech that you haven't even like explained like six days later. You're bad at your job if that's the case. six days later you're bad at your job if that's the case but in being asked to explain what he means someone was like literally just like okay explain what you mean uh by this explain it to

me like i'm five and his answer is that i just mean society treats transgender identity as it did before say 2015 was his answer first of all if you're a five-year-old in 2023 you can't explain something to that child by saying it's like um how society at large was three years before you were born yeah that's bad explaining that's a bad it's a bad job you did a bad job you're a bad communicator you didn't answer the person's question aside from like you didn't answer the question you didn't explain it to them like they're five because you're like yeah three years before you were born it's just like that that's what we should do that's so he's but that's not the worst part of this that's not the worst part of it it's just like something else come on man like you can't even do that but before

2015 i don't know laverne cox was like pretty popular there was like there were like it's not it wasn't new it's not like a brand new thing that happened in 2015 like these people didn't just like start popping up in 2015 it so like that even that explanation is like that's not anything what do you mean by paul like policy wise what are you talking about but it's also interesting our writer dave pointed this out that 2015 specifically is like the year that the gop and like the Republican Party media apparatus at large went all in on it. They decided like it's we're doing ban the bathroom bills. We're doing we're doing all this anti-trans stuff in 2015, which I'm pretty sure is also

the year Caitlyn Jenner came out as trans. Yeah. So it's like that's the marker for him. I said that very confidently, but. I'm pretty sure it is. But that's the marker for him, which is like, OK okay so you just started paying attention in 2015 then yes and further is that uh a political apparatus started paying attention to it negatively and using it as a way to make people afraid so So what he needs to do is take this up with the GOP and all the different states and their platforms and bullshit laws, because then he doesn't have to. We'll go back to what we were doing before.

Right. Well, and all the people before 2015 who were accepting of trans people. Yes. And that acceptance. Before it became a problem. Led led to this like what he's talking about where it's like it's not like they didn't like start making laws like out of the blue and then people like oh i guess like trans people are are exist and we should be okay with that like it happens in reverse um so it's just a weird non-answer um that he again is just like he's

a little weasel this is neither here nor there i have to point it out that when he he's talking he's doing his little speech gesturing and so on he very deliberately when he says that transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely he very deliberately does the little okay sign now i know that the okay sign doesn't mean anything necessarily and it's mostly a troll that was invented created by like fucking like racist nazis like well if we make this a thing then it'll the libs will go not like all the things i know we've talked about it but he's a bullshit thing but he's doing it on purpose uh for a reason playing that game and it's just like it just gives the whole game away if you can if

he's doing that very deliberately it reminds me of unless that's just how his hands work unless it's how his hands work but interestingly enough it only worked at that exact sentence it only it started in the sentence yeah i don't know it started in the sentence and then it sort of stopped at the end of the sentence so it it's interesting that that's sort of how his gestures work. You know what, Cody? That probably is just a physical tick of his. It's not anything to read too much into. Before we break and come back and as we wrap up this conversation about these awful people,

I just wanted to read this Jean-Paul Sartre quote that we've mentioned before, and it really applies to a lot of the freaks of the Daily Wire, specifically Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles, and I just wanted to read it. It's about anti-Semites, but it applies. Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous,

open to challenge, but they are amusing themselves, or it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse, for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith,

since they seek not to persuade by sound argument, but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. It's not one-to-one, because they're also like,

amend this to include, and if you like press them, they'll be like, come on my podcast to debate. And it just seems whenever he talks, I'm like, you just, you're being smarmy and dismissive because you know what what you're saying and you don't want people to know what you're saying. Yeah, it's that. Honestly, the first line is it all never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies.

They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. I know you just read it, but that is it. Yes, that's what we that is it. is it like yeah they know yeah they know these people know i will say maybe matt walsh doesn't know because i think he is like a true believer like a fucked up little guy but a lot of people are just like oh whatever but but again like they're the the thing that they are not saying out loud is that they are theocratic fascists who want this sort of like divine law to exist. And they're not saying that. And that's the part. And so they have to do these little logic games.

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It's also a best of Huey Lewis album. And we are back as promised for more of this fun stuff. Yeah, well, it's going to get a little more fun. A little more fun. Yeah, we're going to talk about Elon Musk now. So that's always fun. Yeah fun guy it's been a minute elon's very bad big week he's had a big week jonathan why don't you walk us through the uh i mean where do we even begin i mean we can blow through some of these things just monday feels like uh months ago but on monday a bunch of

stuff on twitter broke pictures you couldn't see links would give you an error message uh this is all because they were trying to push through the thing where you weren't going to be able to get free access to their api anymore third-party platforms weren't going to get free access to the api anymore but there was only a single engineer assigned to the project, so the whole thing broke. What? Oh, God. Then when that happened, Elon blamed the way Twitter

was built and said it has a brittle code stack and that it's going to need to be entirely rebuilt. You got a brittle stack, bro. And look, maybe that's, maybe you know, they were building stuff on 15-year- old code and that might be legitimate but then maybe don't push a bunch of stuff with a single site reliability engineer or like fire like everybody who everybody is aware of it and knows how it works and and

monday was also when the report came out that he has bodyguards that follow him everywhere including into the bathroom come on man i mean like what is the climate there at twitter uh does he think he's gonna get taken out by one of the few people left assassination coordinates i guess when he's at twitter every twitter employee knows his assassination exactly at all times the building and it's a big empty building that he's not paying rent on. So I feel like he's... Or literally squatting. Stocking the toilet paper. And Monday is also when he started getting into a fight with one of his employees or maybe former employees.

Unbelievable. I mean, the short version of this, there's so many tweets to go through over Monday and Tuesday. But the basic idea here is that there was a Twitter employee who had his work access cut off like a week and a half ago, publicly tweeted at Elon asking if he still had a job. Elon publicly grilled him on the platform, then claimed he had done no work, then seemingly

mocked his muscular dystrophy, and then said, well, I can't have fired him because he wasn't doing any work. And then he deleted the final tweet, that last work and then he deleted the final tweet that last tweet then he publicly apologized to the guy and offered him his job back or said he's considering uh still working at twitter and the backstory is is that this guy uh haraldur holly thorleifson had a creative services agency that had been purchased by old twitter back in 2021 and then by like

firing him it's possible unknown how much but it's possible that elon and twitter may have owed him 10 i think it's like 100 million dollars right there's like an estimation yeah yeah like like if you if you fire this person you owe millions and millions of dollars to this person uh which is so funny like you didn't even like how he doesn't think about any of this stuff. He doesn't. He just keeps very publicly relearning the lesson that he shouldn't just tweet whatever because someone's gotten his goat. This is how we got into the mess. Just firing off the tweets.

I would also really quickly like to uh yeah he's a bad tweeter uh bad boss bad manager you had to very quickly like that person i would very quickly like to address the idea that he made a public apology to this person yeah i disagree there is a tweet that says i would like to apologize to holly for my misunderstanding of the situation he also says it was based on things i was told that were untrue or in some cases true but not meaningful um which is like that's not an apology i was i was misinformed and like the stuff that was true was like i shouldn't have cared about it well then you have bad judgment if you were told things that were true but not meaningful and you thought they were meaningful you have bad judgment but this apology is in the replies to four other people.

It's like the sixth reply to a thread that this person is not on. We all know that replying to the thread bumps it up. It is absurd to consider this to be a public apology. Not Jonathan. I know you said public apology. I'm not saying that. But like the idea that like i apologized no you didn't you replied to alex cohen's reply to uh your reply to daniel houghton's reply to alex cohen's reply that you apologize that is not a public apology um it's like got like 19 000 likes it's

not like because he like all day he's liking people's memes and then reposting them to hundreds of thousands of likes this is not a public apology his memes are public this apology is not public um and sorry i have to he did this earlier about nancy pelosi and her husband if you recall he shared some like i don't know like 9-11 truther blog about how actually nancy pelosi's husband is like secretly on grinder all the time and this was just like a gay situation it was like absurd thing that was proven to be false uh by video and by the fact that like that. So that's a bad source, Elon. Where are you getting your sources?

So he did this whole thing, deleted the tweet eventually. And then later in the replies to some other person was like, I would like to publicly apologize to Nancy Pelosi and her husband. That's not a public apology. That's a reply to somebody saying that you apologize. And then later that day he replied to somebody else saying i've already apologized to them no you didn't you didn't public apology it's absurd it makes me so fucking mad but it's fine right to that part i wanted to highlight uh what i thought was funny we can still but before we got to this the reality is that this is one of

his ways the reality is that this guy who was independently wealthy, did no actual work, claimed as his excuse that he had a disability that prevented him from typing, yet was simultaneously tweeting up a storm. Can't say I have a lot of respect for that. You're independently wealthy. You tweet all day. You're right. I don't have any respect for it. You own like four companies you're tweeting all day you're tweeting that the dead space remake is really good how do you

fucking know elon what are you doing but then he gets rewarded for this because like sir doge of the coin is like well done sir you have apologized and owned like these fucking freaks i swear and all he did was he's like well i got bad information from who from who who's giving you like who told you like this guy's a loser doesn't do anything who is by the way like since he decided to get that sale of that company and have it like be paid in wages in terms of a capital gain some that he's paying much more in taxes in iceland many media outlets in iceland named this guy the person of the year person of the year uh and it's like national treasure tell you like what who's giving him the information right because

i fucking promise you well first of all that person doesn't exist there's no person who gave him the bad information but if there is that person maybe should be the fired person fire that person you fucking weirdo like what are you talking what what you got bad information about this really good person i mean this is well that's all again i mean you've already made this point and we should move on there's other things but like i know i know we're like yelling the most at this and like we just talked about like we've made this this point and we should move on. There's other things. But I know I don't like yelling the most at this. And like we just talked about like we've made this same point so much. But yeah, it's just like he gets away with so much like insidious, like really like cruel, weird behavior.

And then, John, like you're saying, like all you need to do is like bury some like half-assed bullshit apology to nobody and then sir doge of coin or like that matt wallace freak or like whoever's like oh elon i fucking i fucking love you i want you like well yeah like lex friedman or whoever is like let me follow you to the bathrooms good sir oh god are you serious urinal well no i will lay down i mean like i like i'm like i believe you i made that up but one of those guys is like yeah it's within the realm of possibility so you know what you didn't make it up i mean there's that thread of the person who's like i've i've found a list of women for mr elon to date what do you spend your fucking time on oh i didn't even include that because i was so convinced that had to be a joke.

No, no. You check that person's profile. This person's the most pure and this person's maybe not. The 18 year old is the most pure and the 38 year old is she's a little lower because she's like 14 years younger than him. I'm we don't have to talk about it. It's just like, again, it's that it's that element of Twitter that I was talking about earlier a little bit where it's like just these like fucking like just warped people who like have no like respect for women, honestly. And just this weird worldview are just like really rising to the top. And it's just it's so unpleasant.

All right. We're going to move on to some other topics. But real quick, it's a big week on. You know, it is. It's a big week. You had a real big week cody talked to us about um this underlings thing it's did he use the word underlings probably also that's um i'm just gonna assume yes i know jonathan you're saying definitively no yeah he did

subordinates he apparently asked managers to recommend like who are your best employees like who do you think is like really really great uh lower paid employees and he got the list from these managers and then fired the managers and replaced them with the employee they suggested that sounds illegal to me is it not it probably fucking should be it's very manipulative and weird give me your best employees and then, you're fired. Now I can promote these people, but pay them less. Seems not legal. It seems like maybe it should be at the very least frowned upon, but maybe illegal.

That's such a fucked up way to treat your employees, as we've seen. This is how he treats all of his employees. But I find it so interesting because that's not aside from like the cruelty and weirdness of it it's a very bad idea just as like a company if you're a manager and you manage a team of like developers or engineers or whatever and you're like oh yeah this dev uh or this engineer is really really good they should be the manager what it's like any member of a team of a manager not any member but like they're different skill sets you can't have a group of people doing this task and then like oh

you're really good at that task you should manage the team well management is a different skill set yep we didn't ask you for our managers but he thinks he can do everything i guess so he's like do everything it's working out well for him. Okay, we're going to move on to another topic. I agree with you completely. Thank you so much. I mean, like, we're on the same page. We are vibing. I get it.

I get it. Thank you so much. We're going to talk real quickly about this Tucker Carlson segment. Everyone's an uproar, and I understand why, about how he has, you know, selectively looked at footage and created a whole different argument or case for what happened, despite what we all saw happening. And there's plenty that has been said about that online. But I wanted to talk about a little piece of that segment that, honestly, he almost got right. Which is that Jacob Chansley being led around by the Capitol Police. being led around by the Capitol police. And now Tucker's making this as a case as to why this guy is just some poor innocent guy

being led around. And, you know, he's using that. I'm like, but yeah, no, the police are leading him around. Take it a step further. Let's talk about how the day before there were lawmakers that were giving a tour, showing all the places that they could go. And yeah, there is a whole conversation to be had about the fact that, you know, people

that were there are being hit with heavy sentences. But the people that made this happen, there's no accountability whatsoever. There's not even a conversation. And to me, that is a real big piece that is being missed out of every is a missing piece from the conversation for everybody. What are your thoughts? Yeah, I mean, it's I do think it's he and that's his M.O. Right. Is like you almost made a point. You like got up to the edge of a point and then you like like but also Rupert Murdoch is my favorite big boy.

Like there's just no way for him to, and you can see it in his, like, little text from this Dominion case of, like, oh, you know what a liar you are and you're just cool with it and you're just gonna lie. But yeah, like, the police traditionally tend to support right-wing movements and protect, like, let's say the Proud Boys

and maybe crack down a little more on left-wing movements um and that's just like that's just how it is but he didn't really point that out or acknowledge that or make that point or and nobody is and yeah and nobody is that's the other thing that gets frustrating it's like yeah obviously that maybe not obviously he's obviously not going to but he's obviously not going to and that was an infuriating segment and can the rest of us acknowledge it can we keep talking about that because that's what will yeah well right he went into this being like i'm getting all this footage from kevin mccarthy so let me try to find the things that make my point and of course there's 40 000 hours of footage right am i is that right forty thousand that sounds about right it's like thousands of hours yeah so with that he's going to find some footage of people not

actively smashing windows and attacking people so he takes you know the minute of footage of people walking down this hallway people walking down this hallway and saying like see this was an orderly queue of uh people checking out the capitol. And then but of course, he can't make that argument because while those people are like, oh, look at this beam. Everyone outside is chanting hang Mike Pence, which I think makes a stronger point because you can selectively take anything and make. Well, then there are also other clips of people fighting, attacking, you know, people dying, breaking into Nancy Pelosi's office. Let's show those clips no we can't that doesn't uh help but then like even the clips of

jacob chansley like yes there's one where it's like oh it looks like they're trying to open a door for him and it's like well we don't know that we don't know exactly they might have been like no look there's nothing here they're all gone they're all into a secure location now seriously we don't want you touching the door right they could have been like no look there's nothing here they're all gone they're all into a secure location now so you're like we don't want you touching the door right they could have been encouraging him to leave there we don't hear the audio we don't know exactly what was going on but at the same time right this makes the cops look bad it doesn't make jacob chansley and all the people right exactly yeah it it's just it's very uh transparent uh in the sense that it's transparent what he's doing uh it's not transparent in the sense of like oh yeah journalistic transparency like here's all the

footage it's interesting that he can't make the same case about all of the many many many many many many many many peaceful hours and images of protests during the summer of 2020 when i'm told that uh the left burned down american cities yeah i can't believe we don't have any thousands and thousands of hours of footage of that not happening so why aren't you doing a segment on that right now um it was like the first thing i thought of was like oh he's describing this the opposite way he described uh the protests in the summer of 2020 and it took me like not even any like it took me 15 seconds to find a clip of him going the nation went up in flames last night but you won't hear about that you know that's an unpleasantly good uh impression oh god oh i i hate that i'm good at sounding like a weird little um boy liar this reminds me of the sart quote we just read a couple times never believe that anti-semites are

completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies they know that their remarks are i'm saying he knows what he's doing yeah he knows um knows. I mean, again, like it's one of those things where it's like you we can show so many clips that that contradict each other of him talking and saying this thing or saying this other thing or the years of quotes of just like him saying it out loud or the fact that he lied about knowing anything about the OJ trial to get on TV, all this kind of stuff. But just read his texts. He knows he's a liar and he only cares about the bottom line and he said that and it's not gonna affect a fucking single person's opinion of him um which is really depressing like he's pretending to be a nazi which is real close which is like makes you yeah it's like it's so weird that he like very clearly knows that like it's like you're not it's not it's worse obviously

to like be a nazi and like think these things but it's extremely fucked up to know that that's what you're doing and lying about and and like trying to like push in the in a direction but like think that like i can rein it in if it gets too bad or something like that like i don't know what his plan is if it spirals out of control because he knows that that is the fire he's stoking. He knows those are the people he's riling up. So what is the plan beyond just like accumulate as much wealth as you can and then have your little bunker and be able to hide from the out the, you know? Yeah, that has to be the plan. Yeah.

Right. It's gross. It's gross. And you know what's not gross? Fucked up. What It's gross. And fucked up. What's not gross? And fucked up. What's not gross and fucked up? Is that this is the end of our episode.

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