Some More News - Even More News: "Anonymous" Trump Officials Are Having "Buyer's Remorse" On Iran

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

Hi. On today's episode, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan talk about Trump's demands that allies help him secure the Strait of Hormuz. They also talk about the GOP's desperate bid to push through the ...SAVE Act and JD Vance's talking points about immigrants voting.As always, we recorded right before that big thing that happened.PATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comYOUTUBE MEMBERSHIP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/joinSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, hello on today's episode, we talk about Trump's demands that other countries help him control the straight of Hormuz, plus the Republicans' desperate bid to push through the SAVE Act. Good luck. I take it back. Don't have good luck. Hello, welcome back to even more news, the first, the only news podcast. My name's Katie Stoll. Su up. So. Hi, I'm Cody.
Starting point is 00:00:42 How are you doing? Yes. Cody in the house. Yes, he is. Cody's in his house. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:00:51 He is. Jonathan is also here. Hey. Hey, what's up? We're going to have to take that back again. You didn't say hi. Hi. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Well, maybe you're trying to like update it, trying to do a little. 25M. NYC. Yeah. Miss me with that shit Yeah Back to my original Thing I said at the very very beginning
Starting point is 00:01:16 Sup With the news and so on I guess News is going News is progressing Let's start with A brief update on The War
Starting point is 00:01:29 Ongoing Of course But maybe not for much longer But forever Um Attack on Like five months Whatever he says
Starting point is 00:01:38 attack on a year. Trump wants our allies to all get their ships out and help secure the Strait of Hormuz. He's like, there seems to be a problem here. Everyone else has these boats that they could come in and get involved
Starting point is 00:01:54 in the war. Why aren't you doing that? Why aren't you doing the war that we started? Why aren't you participating? Unilaterally started. Why doesn't the world get together and help with the war?
Starting point is 00:02:08 interesting. Yeah, wild stuff, especially after the beginning of this excursion saying, we don't need help, we've got this, blah, blah, blah, no, we don't. But now begging, begging, demanding, demanding. And they were prepared for this, too. They knew this was going to happen. They were prepared for it. Of course they were prepared for this.
Starting point is 00:02:29 They've already won. The war's over. There was no war. But it's going to go on a little bit longer. It's not a war. Not going to win it. But it would be very bad to leave. We need, I would really, I'm demanding that these countries come in and protect their own territory
Starting point is 00:02:46 because it is near territory. It's the place from which they get their energy and they should come and they should help us protect it. You could make the case that maybe we shouldn't be there at all because we don't need it. We have a lot of others or anywhere in the world times too by double, at least double. Now I think it's much higher than that. Fascinating. fascinating clip. We're the best in the world times two.
Starting point is 00:03:13 They should support. No, wait. I demand that they should be supporting us. And also, you can make the argument that we shouldn't be there at all. Great point. I like how he's like, yeah, it just takes a couple people to drill with mess things up. Like a president and a prime minister, like off the top of my head, those are two examples of people who could mess things up really quickly.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Well, yeah, he's like, it's extortion at this point. He's like, we did this thing. But look, it's mostly gunking up. your energy supply, right? This is where China gets its oil. This is where Europe gets its oil. We only get 10% or whatever number he's saying. So he's like, why don't people see us as the good guys? Yeah, like we're the best guys times too. You're like economically obligated to help yourselves, really. It doesn't really matter to us. You need to get those three guys who are setting the minds. It takes like a couple guys. It just takes a couple guys to do it, who they would replace if,
Starting point is 00:04:10 you killed those three, right? Like, if it only takes a couple guys, they can replenish a couple guys forever. There are only a couple guys out there. So yeah, this seems like in over his head. I think, by the way, I don't know if you saw this Axios article this morning. There's reporting that some inside the White House, some insiders who maybe didn't want to do this much in the first place are saying that people are getting buyers remorse, that they were right all along. And I think this is probably Vance or his people leaking. Like, we should already start. Like, I wasn't part of this.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And I said it was a bad idea and I was right all along. You did say to do this this way, though, if it was going to happen. So you're not really. Yeah, if you're going to do it, do it hard and fast. You're going to do it like you're doing it. But I didn't tell him to do it. I think that your speculation is probably accurate, maybe some others in the mix. It's kind of self-explanatory.
Starting point is 00:05:08 It speaks for itself. about how you barge into a war by yourself without consulting anybody. And it speaks to also these leaks, this idea of just bulldozing over anybody that gives you a dose of reality, full steam ahead. Alienating people in his own White House, sure, fuck them anyway.
Starting point is 00:05:27 But the rest of the world. And him saying, oh, yeah, there's a few people there that might louse things up underscores the whole fucking point of why this was ill-thought, ill-advised. to just barge full steam ahead into this excursion because, yeah, you can bomb the shit out of them and they're prepared for that.
Starting point is 00:05:53 They're prepared for that. They expect that in the war. I just mean, yeah, you're going to have some more people putting minds in. They control this. And actually, that's not the world's territory, but it is where they get their energy. Anyway, just wanted to highlight.
Starting point is 00:06:09 that and you're in those leaks. It's really absurd. What's happening? It's really absurd. You know what else is absurd? The vice president in what we were talking about? The war? Something else. You know what else is really absurd?
Starting point is 00:06:25 In addition to that, now we are threatening news organizations for not covering the war the way they want to even though I would argue news organizations aren't doing a great job covering it as is but he seems to be confusing people online on Twitter with media yes yes this is the thing that's wild to the some some media's credit you're right they're not doing a great job but they were pretty consistently on the the beat of yeah we blew up the school like they really really really really really
Starting point is 00:07:09 went for that and kept it in the news and he doesn't like that we know that that is what happened. What we're talking about is a law, Donald Trump has been doing a lot of posting lately, like official statements from the president on truth social where you have to like go and seek out the statements from the president. Are they long and boring and nobody wants to read them? And then when he posts them, J.D. Vance posts a screenshot of them on his Twitter. So everybody sees them because nobody's seeing them because nobody's on truth social. the president's website. Okay. That is what's happening. Okay. So in this one, he is talking about
Starting point is 00:07:44 how Iran is manipulating the media and feeding fake news to the media that the awful fake news reports uncritically. So he goes after the Wall Street Journal for what he calls the false reporting of five U.S. refueling planes that were supposedly struck down and badly damaged. And then he says, for instance, Iran working in close coordination with the fake news media shows our great USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier, one of the largest and most prestigious ships in the world burning uncontrollably in the ocean. Not only was it not burning, it was not even shot at.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Iran knows better than to do that. And I think the thing he is referring to is like an old photo shared with just like by random accounts, whatever this SKM news is. Right, 5,000 followers. Like this is not the Wall Street Journal printing this, but he kind of lumps it all together in this mess. Well, yeah, it's, I mean, and we've clowned on the website, Truth Social, recently, and sort of, we're always sort of baffled by what that website looks like.
Starting point is 00:08:56 But we always experience it through going to his page and just seeing his weird posts and the very, very bad, silly ads that they have. We don't know what his feed looks. looks like. And if you are on Twitter.com, you know it's impossible to know anything because of all the liars and bots and just like the slop and taking a post from like five years ago and presenting it like it was today, all these sort of things that go on. He's got to have the most toxic, like, Nazi, like, feed in the world that he's looking at, that he's seeing like every day. And that's obvious. It's just like, clearly he's just been melted by his own website that's worse than
Starting point is 00:09:42 the other bad website. He's probably looking at both his website and Twitter, to be fair, whether or not he's actively using Twitter. I think he sees it. But I think what is interesting, I mean, so is what you said. You don't have to. Twitter. Twitter. Elon fixed it, y'all. he fixed it to save Twitter and save information systems and he's going to get rid of all the bots all those bots in the discourse and you know is going to improve
Starting point is 00:10:13 and all of a sudden now we finally have free speech whatever the fuck it's a mess it's so much worse it's so much more impossible to get accurate information and look at this cesspool that they've created I mean it was already a cesspool this cesspool that they've exacerbated
Starting point is 00:10:30 it's impossible to get accurate information look that beast is biting you it's out of your control this is just impossible to get real information but again there's no trust in the actual media for various reasons but they're not the ones spreading all the different like Netanyahu is dead for sure accounts you know
Starting point is 00:10:50 people need to learn how to count fingers like Trump is blurring reporting from the Wall Street Journal that he has a problem with and then things shared by random accounts that he has a problem with those are in the same bucket and then he says the story was knowingly fake and in a certain way you can say
Starting point is 00:11:08 that those media outlets that generated it should be brought up on charges for treason for the dissemination of false information so obviously this is an empty threat from him well if he could throw out treason charges he would have done so already to James Comey would be in prison
Starting point is 00:11:27 for treason if that was within his power. But Trump has kind of, over the last year, seen that he's not all powerful. There are some things he can do. He can issue executive orders. He can threaten people. He can try to get people he doesn't like involved in the judicial system and have their charges thrown out. And so he's like, okay, I'm limited, but I'm still going to say it all the time.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Well, then Brendan Carr talking about how FCC licenses are up for renewal and media organization should pay attention to that. So. Well, you're right. I didn't mean to say, except he is going to do treason. No, he can't. I don't think he understands what that means or what that implies. But what they can do is continue to fuck up and try to put pressure on, yeah, news organizations. This is audience of one stuff. So Brendan Carr posts his whole thing saying, oh, we're going to take licenses away from people who don't report the war right. Yeah, that Twitter account.
Starting point is 00:12:29 That's also an empty threat. But then Trump has another post on truth social, praising him. I'm really happy that Brendan Carr's doing that stuff. And it's like, okay, that's it. The job is done. Right. There's like the world according to Trump in his universe. And then there's reality where everyone's like, well, he's not, what is he going
Starting point is 00:12:46 to pull CNN's license or whatever? You know. Right. It's only March. We just passed. We just passed the I'ds. So we're... The aides aren't usually so hot.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Oh, that's true. The aides are not usually so hot. No, I'm wearing a sweater, but I don't need to be. I could be wearing a tank top. I did want to mention one thing about... So we keep bombing everywhere, obviously. And we bombed Carg Island over the weekend on Saturday. I saw a bunch of people start to share this old quote from Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I don't know if you saw this. I don't think so. It's from like 1988 or something like that. The Iranian situation is a case in point. That they hold our hostages is just absolutely and totally ridiculous. That this country sits back and allows a country such as Iran to hold our hostages to my way of thinking is a horror. And I don't think they'd do it with other countries. I honestly don't think they'd do it with other countries.
Starting point is 00:13:54 the country. Obviously, you're advocating that we should have gone in there with troops, et cetera, and brought our boys out. I absolutely feel that, yes. I don't think there's any question, and there's no question in my mind. I think right now would be an oil-rich nation, and I believe that we should have done it, and I'm very disappointed that we didn't do it, and I don't think anybody would have held us in abeyance. I don't think anybody would have been angry with us, and we had every right to do it at the time. Whatever, he talks like that, he always has. I just, I've seen so many like MAGA accounts and people share this as like, see, consistent since day one. Look at, look at, look, he's been talking about this since forever. And it's just like, like,
Starting point is 00:14:33 like how we all got to chuckle out of that. Like instantly, you know, it's just like, if, if you read that two years ago, you'd be like, he wouldn't do that. He would never do that. That was, that's from an old thing. He's not going to do anything like this. And now that he did it, you're like, look at our man. The thing that I love that he was going to do, he did it. It's just I just I saw that being passed around and it was another example of just this cognitive dissonance of like, yeah, you're going to do the peace. Oh, here we go. The peace guys. Look at them. There they are.
Starting point is 00:15:05 This was this is official, you know, Republican graphics. The pro peace ticket. Look at him. He's clearly not convinced. Yeah, no, he's not. Yeah. If you have taken every position over the course of your life, it's easy to be consistent. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:23 If you've taken war is good, but war is bad, then anything you do, they're like, see? Look this cord I found. This is a good point, Jonathan. Straight shooter, there's the arrow right from the crossbow into your back. Okay, we could easily talk about Iran for the whole episode again, but we're not going to because there are the things happening, such as the fucking save act, man. it's coming. I think it's going to get voted on this week. I think maybe next week soon.
Starting point is 00:15:56 In the next couple of weeks, John Thune, John Soon, says that they're going to bring the Save Act to the Senate floor, get everyone on the record. It appears to not have a chance of passing, and there are not enough Republicans
Starting point is 00:16:12 willing to get rid of the filibuster to make it happen. There's been a move from Trump and Senator Mike Lee to make them do a talking filibuster where they would just have to, where one Democrat would have to hold the floor. But that would benefit the Democrats, right?
Starting point is 00:16:27 Probably because... It would also give an opportunity to do a filibuster with, like, the matters that has an actual effect that isn't just sort of like nice words. Right. Yeah, it seems like Democrats should call their bluff on it because then they only need one Democrat to hold the floor, but Republicans need quorum.
Starting point is 00:16:44 They need more than 50% of the Republicans, I think would have to be present at all times. I think that would be too big of a sacrifice for them. Yeah, exactly. Like the president's certainly pressuring them to do whatever it takes to pass the stay back. Yeah, he wouldn't have to sleep in there. But they're like, how far is this going to go, man? I have to stay there for five days straight, all of us, all of us.
Starting point is 00:17:08 JD, take care of it. Watching the Democrats talk one by one. Ooh, what a nightmare for them. Well, and a lot of Republicans in the Senate seem not to really understand. the bill. Like, there's what the bill says, but no one seems to know what it's going to do in practice. So last week during committee hearings, Senator Cornyn, who is now on board with getting rid of the filibuster, and he begged Joe Manchin not to let it happen a couple years back. But now he's like, well, we got to do it. So now I'm ready, the Democrats are going to do it first thing. So we have to do it.
Starting point is 00:17:43 He got to, they're going to kill us all. With Senator Dick Durbin. And Cornyn's like, I don't see how anyone here would get disenfranchised and it set up Durbin perfectly. And he's like, here are the ways. We've talked about them on the show. You all know them by now. The IDs, the birth certificate, the last name, all the stuff. And he's like, well, maybe we can just amend the bill. And Durbin's like, he said, I think, when's the last time the Senate amended a bill? Like, we don't do that. You know, we're doing, we're taking the House bill. We're doing this thing. It would go into effect immediately. Who knows how many people would be disenfranchised immediately. And or if states who run their own elections just would ignore this. And Senator Mike Lee has even
Starting point is 00:18:25 said like, well, states just can, states can put their own rules into place if they want, which is what we have right now. So, so not only is the bill very bad, it's just not a good thing to do in general, even though some on the left are making an argument that it would actually benefit Democrats. But regardless, it's a mean thing to do. It's bad to take away people. Right. Yeah, we don't want to add more obstacles for people to vote. Like it's exactly. It's not about for us, for us for the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:18:58 People rightly point that out. There's a distinction. It's easy to say us because I like, it's the closest aligned. But okay, the Democrats in theory, we're not about disenfranchisement of people. That's the point of being against this. Whether or not it works in the Democrats' favor is kind of irrelevant. We want people to vote. I also feel very confident that more people vote, more people vote for Democrats.
Starting point is 00:19:23 But that may have flipped somewhat recently once it became, you know, working class people started voting for Republicans much more. And then the Democrat coalition went more towards like upper middle class and suburban people. For sure. So we may not live in the world anymore where higher turnout equals Democrat wins. It might equal GOP wins or it would a year ago. Yeah, I was going to say like maybe. not this year. In this coming election, I do believe that. Well, there's a motivation issue, right? People, center and left of center are very, very motivated to stop this carnage. By it of any obstacles. But in general, it should be very, and I mean, it should be concerning for this election, of course, because they're pushing it because they see the writing on the wall. They know the way this is going. And this is their desperate attempt. to retain power, but in general, outside of this election, every election moving forward,
Starting point is 00:20:22 I want as many people to vote as possible. I want both parties to not just assume it's going to flip-flop each year. How about you start actually speaking to people? How about you start actually addressing material problems in their life? Don't start new wars, et cetera. it's just it's fucking wild but yeah they just know like well we're gonna lose it next year but the year after that
Starting point is 00:20:51 we'll be back yeah and to pretend like they don't know that's very frustrating like to be like well how could this even like how does this disenfranchise anybody and like right to like the reservation to not be like oh you mean the thing that you know that we've discussed privately 50 times and now you're finally asking it in front of everybody and I have to explain it to you for the 50th fucking time. It really, really sucks that it's so obvious when that is happening.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And you're like, do you need me to do this? Do you want me to say that like you fucking know? Like, you already fucking know that, man. They're like, with all due respect to my colleague from Vermont, I keep my birth certificate here in my front breast pocket. I got four of them right here. I got my birth certificate. My passport.
Starting point is 00:21:40 What's the problem? What's the problem? I don't ever heard of. machiato why could I have a drink what I drink a coffee drink in the morning anyone who doesn't like this is just pouring soy on the head every day anyway that's a senator John Kennedy from Louisiana I guess yeah yes it is or yes the Senate the Southern character Senator anyway it's Kennedy um it's Kennedy Trump is like saying like this is number one priority I won't sign any other bill that comes to my desk until this
Starting point is 00:22:12 is done as if he's a big bill signer. Like, he's executive order guy. He's ignore the Congress guy. Exactly. No, we'll do laws here. But anyway, he's like, I won't do that thing I do all the time unless you pass it. He, yeah, he's, um, it really knows that he needs this to happen. And it's kind of frustrating, too, because there's like this built in, they're just so, they're just in such a position.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Like this. They are in such a position. They are such a position. Just the sort of the constant victimization while being in power. and all these power grabs at the same like all the things we've talked we talk about every fucking day every week like we have to we have to pass the safe act or our elections are toast and we got to do this and if they do it then all the things we've talked about if they don't they're just going to say well yeah now the election is rigged i know if they don't do it
Starting point is 00:23:07 the narrative will be the democrats rig the election by not passing this and it's going to like they're already going to think that no matter what and when they lose, they'll say it no matter what. But it's just this built-in sort of like dynamic. Same thing whenever anything happens with like, oh, well, that's great. The judge dismissed this. Oh, the activist judge that he wants people to do terrorism at. You know, like it's just building in this like, well, either we do this thing that's bad
Starting point is 00:23:35 that will disenfranchise people or we'll just heighten the fever a little bit on everybody. Except that he won He won under the current election Laws rules Yeah Sleepy Joe didn't do it that You have to understand it's way harder to rig Elections when you control all the levers of power It's way easier to rig them when
Starting point is 00:23:59 Trump is the president of the United States And you are not a power at all Donnery old man hiding his Hiding his basement I was told Dumbled key Daly was that whole time Was I being too patronizing Katie and explaining that very simple concept to you do you get it yet just the right
Starting point is 00:24:19 amount hey Katie that was a really good example of patronizing I feel bad doing it even as a joke thank you for explaining that to me Cody I appreciate it I never would have figured it out this is vice president JD Vance and behind him if you're listening it says lower prices bigger paychecks doesn't say war with Iran behind the also show some respect this is also the fraud czar yeah frauds are
Starting point is 00:24:51 J.D. Vance talking about immigrants. If you know anything about this legislation what the Save America Act does is that it makes it impossible for illegal aliens to vote in our elections. Pretty common sense. I think that's pretty easy, right? We don't want
Starting point is 00:25:11 illegal aliens voting in our elections. My favorite thing is whenever I bring this up, you'll have some Democrat on TV who will say, well, we don't have to worry about that because illegal immigrants voting in our elections is very rare. Well, number one, how about we put it to zero? Okay, even if you're right. Number two, you're not right. It happens way more often than a lot of people appreciate.
Starting point is 00:25:35 In fact, just this week, ICE arrested an illegal immigrant, I'm going to read this because I want to make sure I get it right. An illegal immigrant from Mauritania, who's voted in seven federal elections since 2008. And I haven't got a good authority that at every single election he voted for Don Davis. I don't know about that. I don't know where he voted, but I guarantee it wasn't for us. Okay? It wasn't for America First policies. Now, here's the thing, though, even if you take the Democrats at their word, even if illegal aliens voting is very rare, then why don't we ban it anyway. It's not that complicated. It is one thing to say, I don't get it. The Democrats say,
Starting point is 00:26:15 this never happens or it happens only very rarely on the one hand. And on the other hand, we must not stop it. It doesn't make a damn bit of sense. We need to get all illegal aliens stopping from voting in our elections. It's very common sense stuff. Very rare. Very rare. He's trotting out one instance. He did give an example of how it's very rare. His first example is like it's not rare for example this one guy I can cite one guy well that sounds like it's rare you fucking but the point the point of not jumping through all these hoops is as we already stated to increase voter turnout maybe maybe that one person has slipped through the cracks but also so many other people were
Starting point is 00:27:02 voting and that's what we want we want voter turnout we want people engaged well we we do I don't know about him He talks so obnoxiously. We all know this. He's doing that thing again where he adopts something he heard. People used to describe him and his movement. And the thing that they do all the time, which is like, okay, even if you take them at their word, it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Like, you know what I'm talking about? But I think the main point, we all want to point out, is that here he is saying that, you know, we got this illegal immigrant for voting illegally. And the Democrats don't want to ban it. What was he arrested for if it's not banned already? Right. He did something that was illegal.
Starting point is 00:28:00 And so you arrested him for that. And now you're saying that the thing that he was arrested for is not banned. and that the Democrats need to start wanting to ban it. But if it's not banned... This is a good point, Cody. What did he do? They got him arrested for the thing. J.D.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Ban hard too. Ban harder. No, obviously. Even if you take him at his word that is just like not banned and we ban it, it's still like he's such a smug dick at all times. He can't stop it. as you said, citing one example of a thing happening as if it is some sort of chronic issue, which we all know it's not.
Starting point is 00:28:49 And then, yeah, like, you want to make it, like, he should at least admit that it is already banned, and all we're trying to do is make it easier to enforce that ban. But he's pretending it's, like, the Democrats want it to be legal for non-citizen to vote. And that it is. He's pretending that it is. Well, that's how you shove this down the throat. this is how you spin it to people who are about to realize firsthand, well, I don't know about about
Starting point is 00:29:16 if they're going to actually shoehorn this through. But if this was to pass, people will realize quickly how annoying it is. Not everybody, but a significant amount of people will realize that they have to jump through a bunch of dumb hoops in order to do... I mean, they're right. They're right to vote.
Starting point is 00:29:41 In order to access their right to vote, they'll have to jump through all of these barriers and it will not be popular. But in order to make it seem... Tis better for 10 million citizens not to vote than for one immigrant to vote. It's their position, yeah. Okay, well, that's it for us today, folks.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Mm-hmm. Like, subscribe. Yeah. I want to say something sincerely. Go for it. I was thinking over the weekend, it's dizzying. The amount of news, the amount of horrors that we're having broadcast into our eyeballs at all times. Trying to stay on top of all the different threads for some of us creates a lot of anxiety.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I'm so grateful for everybody here, the two of you, but everybody in our community, because it genuinely makes me feel less or more sane. Because we're being gas-lit left and right. Every so often, I don't know if you guys feel this. Every so often, I'm like, am I getting this wrong? How can we have such different perspectives? And then I look around me, I look at you guys, I look at the community we've built here. And I feel like this pressure release, like, nope, I'm not crazy. This is real.
Starting point is 00:31:05 I'm so grateful that we're all on this journey together or not able to share these thoughts and commiserate, even if it feels like we're screaming into a void. I agree with you completely. I agree with you completely. Thank you. I agree with you completely as well. Thank you, Katie. We're all in this together.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Just to remind everybody why it is that we say. We love you very much at the end of the show. Much at the end of the show. I kidding.

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