Some More News - Even More News: "Anonymous" Trump Officials Are Having "Buyer's Remorse" On Iran
Episode Date: March 17, 2026Hi. On today's episode, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan talk about Trump's demands that allies help him secure the Strait of Hormuz. They also talk about the GOP's desperate bid to push through the ...SAVE Act and JD Vance's talking points about immigrants voting.As always, we recorded right before that big thing that happened.PATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comYOUTUBE MEMBERSHIP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/joinSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hi, hello on today's episode, we talk about Trump's demands that other countries help him control the straight of Hormuz, plus the Republicans' desperate bid to push through the SAVE Act.
Good luck.
I take it back. Don't have good luck.
Hello, welcome back to even more news, the first, the only news podcast.
My name's Katie Stoll.
Su up.
So.
Hi, I'm Cody.
How are you doing?
Yes.
Cody in the house.
Yes, he is.
Cody's in his house.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
He is.
Jonathan is also here.
Hey.
Hey, what's up?
We're going to have to take that back again.
You didn't say hi.
Hi.
Oh, gosh.
Well, maybe you're trying to like update it, trying to do a little.
25M.
NYC.
Yeah.
Miss me with that shit
Yeah
Back to my original
Thing I said at the very very beginning
Sup
With the news and so on
I guess
News is going
News is progressing
Let's start with
A brief update on
The War
Ongoing
Of course
But maybe not for much longer
But forever
Um
Attack on
Like five months
Whatever he says
attack on a year.
Trump wants our allies
to all get their ships out
and help secure
the Strait of Hormuz.
He's like, there seems to be a problem
here. Everyone else has these boats
that they could come in and get involved
in the war.
Why aren't you doing that?
Why aren't you doing the war that we started?
Why aren't you participating?
Unilaterally started.
Why doesn't the world
get together and help
with the war?
interesting.
Yeah, wild stuff, especially after the beginning of this excursion saying,
we don't need help, we've got this, blah, blah, blah, no, we don't.
But now begging, begging, demanding, demanding.
And they were prepared for this, too.
They knew this was going to happen.
They were prepared for it.
Of course they were prepared for this.
They've already won.
The war's over.
There was no war.
But it's going to go on a little bit longer.
It's not a war.
Not going to win it.
But it would be very bad to leave.
We need, I would really, I'm demanding that these countries come in and protect their own territory
because it is near territory.
It's the place from which they get their energy and they should come and they should help us protect it.
You could make the case that maybe we shouldn't be there at all because we don't need it.
We have a lot of others or anywhere in the world times too by double, at least double.
Now I think it's much higher than that.
Fascinating.
fascinating clip.
We're the best in the world times two.
They should support.
No, wait.
I demand that they should be supporting us.
And also, you can make the argument that we shouldn't be there at all.
Great point.
I like how he's like, yeah, it just takes a couple people to drill with mess things up.
Like a president and a prime minister, like off the top of my head, those are two examples
of people who could mess things up really quickly.
Well, yeah, he's like, it's extortion at this point.
He's like, we did this thing.
But look, it's mostly gunking up.
your energy supply, right? This is where China gets its oil. This is where Europe gets its oil. We only
get 10% or whatever number he's saying. So he's like, why don't people see us as the good guys?
Yeah, like we're the best guys times too. You're like economically obligated to help yourselves,
really. It doesn't really matter to us. You need to get those three guys who are setting the minds.
It takes like a couple guys. It just takes a couple guys to do it, who they would replace if,
you killed those three, right? Like, if it only takes a couple guys, they can replenish a couple guys
forever. There are only a couple guys out there. So yeah, this seems like in over his head. I think,
by the way, I don't know if you saw this Axios article this morning. There's reporting that
some inside the White House, some insiders who maybe didn't want to do this much in the first place
are saying that people are getting buyers remorse, that they were right all along. And I think this is
probably Vance or his people leaking.
Like, we should already start.
Like, I wasn't part of this.
And I said it was a bad idea and I was right all along.
You did say to do this this way, though, if it was going to happen.
So you're not really.
Yeah, if you're going to do it, do it hard and fast.
You're going to do it like you're doing it.
But I didn't tell him to do it.
I think that your speculation is probably accurate, maybe some others in the mix.
It's kind of self-explanatory.
It speaks for itself.
about how you barge into a war by yourself
without consulting anybody.
And it speaks to also these leaks,
this idea of just bulldozing over anybody
that gives you a dose of reality,
full steam ahead.
Alienating people in his own White House, sure, fuck them anyway.
But the rest of the world.
And him saying, oh, yeah,
there's a few people there that might louse things up
underscores the whole fucking point
of why this was ill-thought, ill-advised.
to just barge full steam ahead into this excursion
because, yeah, you can bomb the shit out of them
and they're prepared for that.
They're prepared for that.
They expect that in the war.
I just mean, yeah, you're going to have some more people
putting minds in.
They control this.
And actually, that's not the world's territory,
but it is where they get their energy.
Anyway, just wanted to highlight.
that and you're in those leaks.
It's really absurd.
What's happening?
It's really absurd. You know what else is absurd?
The vice president
in what we were talking about?
The war? Something else.
You know what else is really absurd?
In addition to that,
now we are threatening
news organizations
for not
covering the war
the way they want to
even though I would argue
news organizations aren't doing a great job covering it as is but he seems to be confusing people online on Twitter with media yes yes this is the thing that's wild to the some some media's credit you're right they're not doing a great job but they were pretty consistently on the the beat of yeah we blew up the school like they really really really really really
went for that and kept it in the news and he doesn't like that we know that that is what happened.
What we're talking about is a law, Donald Trump has been doing a lot of posting lately,
like official statements from the president on truth social where you have to like go and
seek out the statements from the president.
Are they long and boring and nobody wants to read them?
And then when he posts them, J.D. Vance posts a screenshot of them on his Twitter.
So everybody sees them because nobody's seeing them because nobody's on truth social.
the president's website. Okay. That is what's happening. Okay. So in this one, he is talking about
how Iran is manipulating the media and feeding fake news to the media that the awful fake news
reports uncritically. So he goes after the Wall Street Journal for what he calls the false
reporting of five U.S. refueling planes that were supposedly struck down and badly damaged.
And then he says, for instance, Iran working in close coordination with the fake news media
shows our great USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier,
one of the largest and most prestigious ships in the world
burning uncontrollably in the ocean.
Not only was it not burning, it was not even shot at.
Iran knows better than to do that.
And I think the thing he is referring to is like an old photo shared with just like
by random accounts, whatever this SKM news is.
Right, 5,000 followers.
Like this is not the Wall Street Journal printing this,
but he kind of lumps it all together in this mess.
Well, yeah, it's, I mean, and we've clowned on the website, Truth Social, recently,
and sort of, we're always sort of baffled by what that website looks like.
But we always experience it through going to his page and just seeing his weird posts and the very,
very bad, silly ads that they have.
We don't know what his feed looks.
looks like. And if you are on Twitter.com, you know it's impossible to know anything because of all the
liars and bots and just like the slop and taking a post from like five years ago and presenting
it like it was today, all these sort of things that go on. He's got to have the most toxic, like,
Nazi, like, feed in the world that he's looking at, that he's seeing like every day. And that's
obvious. It's just like, clearly he's just been melted by his own website that's worse than
the other bad website. He's probably looking at both his website and Twitter, to be fair,
whether or not he's actively using Twitter. I think he sees it. But I think what is interesting,
I mean, so is what you said. You don't have to. Twitter. Twitter. Elon fixed it, y'all.
he fixed it to save Twitter
and save information systems
and he's going to get rid of all the bots
all those bots in the discourse
and you know is going to improve
and all of a sudden now we finally have free speech
whatever the fuck
it's a mess
it's so much worse it's so much more impossible
to get accurate information
and look at this cesspool that they've created
I mean it was already a cesspool
this cesspool that they've exacerbated
it's impossible to get accurate information
look that beast is biting you
it's out of your control
this is just impossible to get real information
but again there's no trust in the actual media
for various reasons but they're not the ones
spreading all the different like Netanyahu is dead
for sure accounts you know
people need to learn how to count fingers
like Trump is blurring reporting from the Wall Street Journal
that he has a problem with
and then things shared by random accounts
that he has a problem with
those are in the same bucket
and then he says the story was knowingly fake
and in a certain way you can say
that those media outlets that generated it
should be brought up on charges for treason
for the dissemination of false information
so obviously this is an empty threat
from him
well if he could throw out
treason charges he would have done so already
to James Comey would be in prison
for treason if that was within his power.
But Trump has kind of, over the last year, seen that he's not all powerful.
There are some things he can do.
He can issue executive orders.
He can threaten people.
He can try to get people he doesn't like involved in the judicial system and have their
charges thrown out.
And so he's like, okay, I'm limited, but I'm still going to say it all the time.
Well, then Brendan Carr talking about how FCC licenses are up for renewal and media
organization should pay attention to that.
So. Well, you're right. I didn't mean to say, except he is going to do treason. No, he can't.
I don't think he understands what that means or what that implies. But what they can do is continue to
fuck up and try to put pressure on, yeah, news organizations. This is audience of one stuff.
So Brendan Carr posts his whole thing saying, oh, we're going to take licenses away from people who
don't report the war right.
Yeah, that Twitter account.
That's also an empty threat.
But then Trump has another post on truth social, praising him.
I'm really happy that Brendan Carr's doing that stuff.
And it's like, okay, that's it.
The job is done.
Right.
There's like the world according to Trump in his universe.
And then there's reality where everyone's like, well, he's not, what is he going
to pull CNN's license or whatever?
You know.
Right.
It's only March.
We just passed.
We just passed the I'ds.
So we're...
The aides aren't usually so hot.
Oh, that's true.
The aides are not usually so hot.
No, I'm wearing a sweater, but I don't need to be.
I could be wearing a tank top.
I did want to mention one thing about...
So we keep bombing everywhere, obviously.
And we bombed Carg Island over the weekend on Saturday.
I saw a bunch of people start to share this old quote from Donald Trump.
I don't know if you saw this.
I don't think so.
It's from like 1988 or something like that.
The Iranian situation is a case in point.
That they hold our hostages is just absolutely and totally ridiculous.
That this country sits back and allows a country such as Iran to hold our hostages to my way of thinking is a horror.
And I don't think they'd do it with other countries.
I honestly don't think they'd do it with other countries.
the country. Obviously, you're advocating that we should have gone in there with troops,
et cetera, and brought our boys out. I absolutely feel that, yes. I don't think there's any
question, and there's no question in my mind. I think right now would be an oil-rich nation,
and I believe that we should have done it, and I'm very disappointed that we didn't do it,
and I don't think anybody would have held us in abeyance. I don't think anybody would have been
angry with us, and we had every right to do it at the time. Whatever, he talks like that, he always
has. I just, I've seen so many like MAGA accounts and people share this as like, see, consistent since day one.
Look at, look at, look, he's been talking about this since forever. And it's just like, like,
like how we all got to chuckle out of that. Like instantly, you know, it's just like, if, if you read that two years ago,
you'd be like, he wouldn't do that. He would never do that. That was, that's from an old thing. He's not
going to do anything like this. And now that he did it, you're like, look at our man. The thing that I love that he was going to do, he did it.
It's just I just I saw that being passed around and it was another example of just this cognitive dissonance of like, yeah, you're going to do the peace.
Oh, here we go.
The peace guys.
Look at them.
There they are.
This was this is official, you know, Republican graphics.
The pro peace ticket.
Look at him.
He's clearly not convinced.
Yeah, no, he's not.
Yeah.
If you have taken every position over the course of your life, it's easy to be consistent.
Oh, yeah.
If you've taken war is good, but war is bad, then anything you do, they're like, see?
Look this cord I found.
This is a good point, Jonathan.
Straight shooter, there's the arrow right from the crossbow into your back.
Okay, we could easily talk about Iran for the whole episode again, but we're not going to because there are the things happening, such as the fucking save act, man.
it's coming. I think it's
going to get voted on this week.
I think maybe next week soon.
In the next couple of weeks,
John Thune, John Soon,
says that they're going to bring
the Save Act to the Senate floor,
get everyone on the record. It appears
to not have a chance of
passing, and there are
not enough Republicans
willing to get rid of the
filibuster to make it happen.
There's been a move
from Trump and Senator Mike Lee
to make them do a talking filibuster
where they would just have to,
where one Democrat would have to hold the floor.
But that would benefit the Democrats, right?
Probably because...
It would also give an opportunity to do a filibuster
with, like, the matters that has an actual effect
that isn't just sort of like nice words.
Right.
Yeah, it seems like Democrats should call their bluff on it
because then they only need one Democrat to hold the floor,
but Republicans need quorum.
They need more than 50% of the Republicans,
I think would have to be present at all times.
I think that would be too big of a sacrifice for them.
Yeah, exactly.
Like the president's certainly pressuring them to do whatever it takes to pass the stay back.
Yeah, he wouldn't have to sleep in there.
But they're like, how far is this going to go, man?
I have to stay there for five days straight, all of us, all of us.
JD, take care of it.
Watching the Democrats talk one by one.
Ooh, what a nightmare for them.
Well, and a lot of Republicans in the Senate seem not to really understand.
the bill. Like, there's what the bill says, but no one seems to know what it's going to do in practice.
So last week during committee hearings, Senator Cornyn, who is now on board with getting rid of the filibuster,
and he begged Joe Manchin not to let it happen a couple years back. But now he's like, well,
we got to do it. So now I'm ready, the Democrats are going to do it first thing. So we have to do it.
He got to, they're going to kill us all. With Senator Dick Durbin. And Cornyn's like, I don't see how anyone
here would get disenfranchised and it set up Durbin perfectly. And he's like, here are the ways.
We've talked about them on the show. You all know them by now. The IDs, the birth certificate, the last
name, all the stuff. And he's like, well, maybe we can just amend the bill. And Durbin's like,
he said, I think, when's the last time the Senate amended a bill? Like, we don't do that.
You know, we're doing, we're taking the House bill. We're doing this thing. It would go into
effect immediately. Who knows how many people would be disenfranchised immediately. And
or if states who run their own elections just would ignore this. And Senator Mike Lee has even
said like, well, states just can, states can put their own rules into place if they want,
which is what we have right now. So, so not only is the bill very bad, it's just not a good
thing to do in general, even though some on the left are making an argument that it would actually
benefit Democrats. But regardless, it's a mean thing to do. It's bad to take away people.
Right.
Yeah, we don't want to add more obstacles for people to vote.
Like it's exactly.
It's not about for us, for us for the Democrats.
People rightly point that out.
There's a distinction.
It's easy to say us because I like, it's the closest aligned.
But okay, the Democrats in theory, we're not about disenfranchisement of people.
That's the point of being against this.
Whether or not it works in the Democrats' favor is kind of irrelevant.
We want people to vote.
I also feel very confident that more people vote, more people vote for Democrats.
But that may have flipped somewhat recently once it became, you know, working class people started voting for Republicans much more.
And then the Democrat coalition went more towards like upper middle class and suburban people.
For sure.
So we may not live in the world anymore where higher turnout equals Democrat wins.
It might equal GOP wins or it would a year ago.
Yeah, I was going to say like maybe.
not this year. In this coming election, I do believe that. Well, there's a motivation issue, right? People, center and left of center are very, very motivated to stop this carnage. By it of any obstacles. But in general, it should be very, and I mean, it should be concerning for this election, of course, because they're pushing it because they see the writing on the wall. They know the way this is going. And this is their desperate attempt.
to retain power, but in general, outside of this election, every election moving forward,
I want as many people to vote as possible.
I want both parties to not just assume it's going to flip-flop each year.
How about you start actually speaking to people?
How about you start actually addressing material problems in their life?
Don't start new wars, et cetera.
it's just it's fucking wild
but yeah they just know like well
we're gonna lose it next year but the year after that
we'll be back yeah and to pretend like they don't know
that's very frustrating like to be like well how could this even like
how does this disenfranchise anybody and like
right to like the reservation to not be like
oh you mean the thing that you know that we've discussed privately
50 times and now you're finally asking it in front of everybody
and I have to explain it to you for the 50th fucking time.
It really, really sucks that it's so obvious when that is happening.
And you're like, do you need me to do this?
Do you want me to say that like you fucking know?
Like, you already fucking know that, man.
They're like, with all due respect to my colleague from Vermont,
I keep my birth certificate here in my front breast pocket.
I got four of them right here.
I got my birth certificate.
My passport.
What's the problem?
What's the problem?
I don't ever heard of.
machiato why could I have a drink what I drink a coffee drink in the morning
anyone who doesn't like this is just pouring soy on the head every day anyway that's
a senator John Kennedy from Louisiana I guess yeah yes it is or yes the Senate the
Southern character Senator anyway it's Kennedy um it's Kennedy Trump is like saying like
this is number one priority I won't sign any other bill that comes to my desk until this
is done as if he's a big bill signer.
Like, he's executive order guy.
He's ignore the Congress guy.
Exactly. No, we'll do laws here.
But anyway, he's like, I won't do that thing I do all the time unless you pass it.
He, yeah, he's, um, it really knows that he needs this to happen.
And it's kind of frustrating, too, because there's like this built in, they're just so,
they're just in such a position.
Like this.
They are in such a position.
They are such a position.
Just the sort of the constant victimization while being in power.
and all these power grabs at the same like all the things we've talked we talk about every
fucking day every week like we have to we have to pass the safe act or our elections are
toast and we got to do this and if they do it then all the things we've talked about if they
don't they're just going to say well yeah now the election is rigged i know if they don't do it
the narrative will be the democrats rig the election by not passing this and it's going to like
they're already going to think that
no matter what and when they lose, they'll say it no matter what.
But it's just this built-in sort of like dynamic.
Same thing whenever anything happens with like, oh, well, that's great.
The judge dismissed this.
Oh, the activist judge that he wants people to do terrorism at.
You know, like it's just building in this like, well, either we do this thing that's bad
that will disenfranchise people or we'll just heighten the fever a little bit on everybody.
Except that he won
He won under the current election
Laws rules
Yeah Sleepy Joe didn't do it that
You have to understand it's way harder to rig
Elections when you control all the levers of power
It's way easier to rig them when
Trump is the president of the United States
And you are not a power at all
Donnery old man hiding his
Hiding his basement I was told
Dumbled key
Daly was that whole time
Was I being too
patronizing Katie and explaining that very simple concept to you do you get it yet just the right
amount hey Katie that was a really good example of patronizing I feel bad doing it even as a joke
thank you for explaining that to me Cody I appreciate it I never would have figured it out
this is vice president JD Vance and behind him if you're listening it says lower prices
bigger paychecks doesn't say
war with Iran behind the
also show some respect
this is also the fraud czar
yeah frauds are
J.D. Vance talking about immigrants.
If you know anything about this legislation
what the Save America Act
does is that it makes it
impossible for illegal aliens to vote
in our elections.
Pretty common sense.
I think that's pretty easy, right? We don't want
illegal aliens voting in our elections. My favorite
thing is whenever I bring this up,
you'll have some Democrat on TV who will say, well, we don't have to worry about that because
illegal immigrants voting in our elections is very rare.
Well, number one, how about we put it to zero?
Okay, even if you're right.
Number two, you're not right.
It happens way more often than a lot of people appreciate.
In fact, just this week, ICE arrested an illegal immigrant, I'm going to read this because I want to
make sure I get it right.
An illegal immigrant from Mauritania, who's voted in
seven federal elections since 2008. And I haven't got a good authority that at every single election
he voted for Don Davis. I don't know about that. I don't know where he voted, but I guarantee it
wasn't for us. Okay? It wasn't for America First policies. Now, here's the thing, though, even if you
take the Democrats at their word, even if illegal aliens voting is very rare, then why don't we ban it
anyway. It's not that complicated. It is one thing to say, I don't get it. The Democrats say,
this never happens or it happens only very rarely on the one hand. And on the other hand,
we must not stop it. It doesn't make a damn bit of sense. We need to get all illegal aliens
stopping from voting in our elections. It's very common sense stuff. Very rare. Very rare.
He's trotting out one instance. He did give an example of how it's very rare. His first
example is like it's not rare for example this one guy I can cite one guy well
that sounds like it's rare you fucking but the point the point of not jumping through
all these hoops is as we already stated to increase voter turnout maybe maybe
that one person has slipped through the cracks but also so many other people were
voting and that's what we want we want voter turnout we want people engaged well
we we do I don't know about him
He talks so obnoxiously.
We all know this.
He's doing that thing again where he adopts something he heard.
People used to describe him and his movement.
And the thing that they do all the time, which is like,
okay, even if you take them at their word, it's a lot.
Like, you know what I'm talking about?
But I think the main point, we all want to point out,
is that here he is saying that,
you know, we got this illegal immigrant for voting illegally.
And the Democrats don't want to ban it.
What was he arrested for if it's not banned already?
Right.
He did something that was illegal.
And so you arrested him for that.
And now you're saying that the thing that he was arrested for is not banned.
and that the Democrats need to start wanting to ban it.
But if it's not banned...
This is a good point, Cody.
What did he do?
They got him arrested for the thing.
J.D.
Ban hard too.
Ban harder.
No, obviously.
Even if you take him at his word that is just like not banned and we ban it,
it's still like he's such a smug dick at all times.
He can't stop it.
as you said, citing one example of a thing happening as if it is some sort of chronic issue,
which we all know it's not.
And then, yeah, like, you want to make it, like, he should at least admit that it is already banned,
and all we're trying to do is make it easier to enforce that ban.
But he's pretending it's, like, the Democrats want it to be legal for non-citizen to vote.
And that it is.
He's pretending that it is.
Well, that's how you shove this down the throat.
this is how you spin it to people
who are about to realize firsthand, well, I don't know about about
if they're going to actually shoehorn this through.
But if this was to pass, people will realize quickly
how annoying it is.
Not everybody, but a significant amount of people
will realize that they have to jump through
a bunch of dumb hoops in order to do...
I mean, they're right.
They're right to vote.
In order to access their right to vote,
they'll have to jump through all of these barriers
and it will not be popular.
But in order to make it seem...
Tis better for 10 million citizens not to vote
than for one immigrant to vote.
It's their position, yeah.
Okay, well, that's it for us today, folks.
Mm-hmm.
Like, subscribe.
Yeah.
I want to say something sincerely.
Go for it.
I was thinking over the weekend, it's dizzying.
The amount of news, the amount of horrors that we're having broadcast into our eyeballs at all times.
Trying to stay on top of all the different threads for some of us creates a lot of anxiety.
I'm so grateful for everybody here, the two of you, but everybody in our community, because it genuinely makes me feel less or more sane.
Because we're being gas-lit left and right.
Every so often, I don't know if you guys feel this.
Every so often, I'm like, am I getting this wrong?
How can we have such different perspectives?
And then I look around me, I look at you guys, I look at the community we've built here.
And I feel like this pressure release, like, nope, I'm not crazy.
This is real.
I'm so grateful that we're all on this journey together or not able to share these thoughts and commiserate,
even if it feels like we're screaming into a void.
I agree with you completely.
I agree with you completely.
Thank you.
I agree with you completely as well.
Thank you, Katie.
We're all in this together.
Just to remind everybody why it is that we say.
We love you very much at the end of the show.
Much at the end of the show.
I kidding.
