Some More News - Even More News: Another Assassination Attempt on Trump

Episode Date: April 28, 2026

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Hi, on today's episode, we talk about the incident at the White House Correspondence dinner, their reaction, the ballroom, and the president's follow-up interview on 60 minutes. We're live streaming on Tuesday, Pacific Daylight Standard Time. Whoa, welcome back to Even More News, the first, the only news podcast. I'm Katie Stoll, that is. That is Katie Stoll. Wait, is that Katie Stole right there? It is.

Hi, I'm a different name. The person. It's Cody. Johnston. Cody. Hello. It's Cody. Hello.

Hi. Hi. Jonathan. Is also here. Oh. Hi. I like Cody. It's Cody.

So you showed up for a change. Yeah, I know. Finally. What happened this weekend? I'm going to go out on the limb and say nothing. Yep. Nothing. As usual, we were like great. This is going to be a great opportunity to talk about stuff we haven't been able to get to in a while because of the war. We can talk about ICE. Ice is still doing bad stuff all over the place. Don't forget about that. But then someone tried to get into the ballroom where the White House correspondence dinner was happening, had guns. Manifesto says the intention was to go after administration officials from Trump all the way down, excluding Cash Patel for some reason. We'll get to that. that but he didn't he was tackled a floor above where it happened and arrested but that that's this is this is

another try number three someone that we are that we know the public tried number three publicly although according to scott jennings after three attempts on trump charlie cavanae scolice and more three attempts on trump and then these others On each of them? What are you talking about? A lot of reaction to it. Some of it is weird and some of it's maybe not the healthiest a nation could possibly be about these things happening. Yeah, the details we know are that the suspect checked into the Washington Hilton the day before with guns.

You know, you've gone to a hotel if they searched your bags. Of course not. You go to your room and then you have whatever you have. And then the next day, while everyone's in there, the president's in their White House correspondence dinner, he leaves and just apparently tries to charge through the first security station. Yeah, you would go through this one security station, then downstairs, then there's more security, and then into the ballroom. So he got stopped at that first place. In the chaos of the reporting, as always, but you know, you don't take some minute to get an accurate idea, if we even really have a fully accurate idea, but seemed as though this was happening right outside the ballroom. And that's not the case. This was on a different floor of the hotel. Guns are loud. And that is not to dismiss the fear or the terror of what.

the situation would be like, you know, I don't, I do not like the clowning on people. I mean, sure there's some funny images that come out of people grabbing a bottle of wine or what have you after the aftermath. But, you know, lots of dunking on, let's say, an Erica Kirk walking out. It's like, no, that's a traumatic experience. I don't have to like her to acknowledge that. But it was not right outside the ballroom. And yes, he was apprehendive on a different floor. And but also, and, you know, people are starting to point this out that this is not an uncommon occurrence in America overall. Like they, the White House correspondence just experienced what hundreds of thousands or millions of

Americans have now experienced a lockdown situation where you don't know what's going on. You may not have ultimately been in direct peril, but a few things go differently and you are. that's, you know, something we, of course, haven't addressed in this country. Maybe every school or mall and movie theater in America just gets a ballroom now, and then that will take care of it. But, yeah, I just, I think that's important. Like, it's, it's terror. It's terrifying.

And yes, a lot of these people that were attending this event are part of the problem. And, yes, they have grotesque. ignored the rising threat of gun violence in this country over and over and over again. And it is still awful. But you're right. We don't talk about building a secure bunker under our schools ever, do we? We don't talk about any. Well, we talk about giving them clear backpacks, I guess, actually.

Yeah. And running teachers. Now everyone gets their luggage searched when they go to a hotel now, I guess. like what's the what rules are we changing because of this incident obviously there's the administration and the maga folks are doing a full court press on as if anything different would have happened as if he wouldn't have been stopped at the first security station at the white house but they are now making the argument that this is why we have to have the ballroom also even though the white house correspondence dinner isn't and should never be at the white house you're critically covering

Right. It shouldn't be, they shouldn't join together and like have this be an official White House event. Regardless, like, there's like an ethical issue there. But also, as you kind of have been alluding to, it went as well as one would kind of want to go in that situation. he didn't get past security and so why like I understand like oh we want to like have more control over it

and this and this and this but like the idea that like as soon as this happens 50 like mega blue checks are like this is why we need the ballroom like that makes it seem absurd and it worked

it worked the security worked because it didn't the guy didn't get to do what he tried to do. I would, I, I do agree with you. And I think that that is an overlooked point in the discourse right now about this. It's like, well, the security failure, security failure. It's like, no, actually they stopped him.

But I will push back slightly and say, like, reports of people at the hotel staying at the hotel. It seemed that it could have been very easy for somebody. to be there without a lot of scrutiny. And yes, nobody's searching through hotel guest bags. Why would they? That's nuts. Maybe it shouldn't be at a hotel at a different venue that's not the White House at a different venue where there's, you know, not a bunch of people coming in and out. But to your point, yes, ultimately they stopped the guy.

Nobody got killed. The shooter didn't get killed, you know. So it did go the way that it should. If he even shot, I mean, a secret service agent got shot bulletproof vest going to be okay, presumed that the suspect is the one who shot him, but I don't think we know that. We're not sure because also stories indicate that he just sort of like ran for it, which implies that he wasn't like shooting or anything at the time, but it is unclear. But according to this man's own words, he's saying, I'm shocked at how.

how easy it was for me to be here. To be in the same hotel with the president with guns. With guns. And you're like, whoa, this did just happen. That's something to think about. But again, yeah, they got the guy. Well, Malcovich had a 3D, not 3D printed at the time, whatever the plastic gun was in the line of fire.

But he was also, I don't think he was staying at that hotel, but it's very similar to the 1993 film in the line of fire. I was like, what are you talking about? But now I get you. Well, you've had to talk about this movie before in an ad, I think. But it's a very good movie, and it feels very similar, except Malcovich got farther. I did at first think. Wait, Malcovich was there with a fake gun.

That didn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone was there. The stars were out, Katie. Yeah. But, yeah, like, this guy was not a professional killer. No. I mean, he wrote a huge confession where he said, I'm going to do attempted murder on all of these people.

he's going to go to prison for attempted murder. Except for, like, what we keep alluding to, the manifesto says administration officials are the top target, parentheses, like, except for Mr. Patel. I don't know.

I would love to know why he's included there. And then under that, you know, he wrote, like, Secret Service, don't want to kill them unless I have to. Guests I'm not targeting, like hotel employees I'm not targeting. The guests of the thing, well, they did choose to be there with the fascist guy, all that stuff.

Like, he has a whole, like, explanation for everything. He appears, by all accounts, based on his online presence, to have been kind of a normy liberal. Like, on, you know, listen, on blue sky, he was on blue sky. And his life's... Yeah, just on blue sky. Not a terribly active person on blue sky, but liked accounts like Will Stansell and things like that. People who certainly criticize the president, but have never said anything, you know, encouraging violence toward the president. This whole thing that like the rhetoric has to calm down seems absurd.

No, the evil terrorist and traitors need to tone down their rhetoric, actually. So they can point to that. Yeah, that's the thing. That's what they want to say every time, regardless if the shooter identifies as left in any capacity or not. Ken Klippenstein put out a piece yesterday about the shooter's manifesto and how the FBI apparently this person wasn't on their radar at all. And that opens a question about, you know, traveling with guns in America from California all the way across the country on a train. So there's that. But in general, in looking into this man's life, a very Christian person and, you know, active on campus events had been.

anti-nerf guns even because of the weaponization of toys. And he lays out all the ways that he's been grappling with his presidency, such as, like, they say the Christian thing to do is to turn the other cheek. But what if other people are being targeted that can't turn the other cheek? If we're complicit in these crimes, I mean, it's all based in, a lot of his reasoning is based in his Christian faith. and even referencing, you know, the picture that Donald Trump retweeted and added some other stuff to of him being a doctor, sorry, Jesus, healing the nation. So you don't have to guess.

You can see it's beyond the rhetoric. It's what the president's actions are. I'm not saying, just like I've never said or ever will say, that that justifies violence. But let's not tear our hair and pretend that we don't understand. this is coming from. The media, no, it's this person's provable actions. We're watching it unfold. We all know. And his rhetoric and the things that he says. And his rhetoric. It's just like they always like to pretend like everything happens in a vacuum and that he is the sweetest little baby boy we've ever seen in the world. And he's like never said anything about executing his opponents or

like all the horrible shit. It's just absurd. The whole thing's absurd. It's very, it's very, interesting because right and and and and and and and and steenstein talks about this in his piece they are trying to portray him as an anti-Christian zealot Trump said on Fox News when you read his manifesto he hates Christians a hatred which is and it's very strange because the manifesto actually uses Christian theology so strange to justify it the same way that it not to change the subject but in leaked audio recordings Peter Teal reveals that he told J.D. Vance, to ignore the Pope because you don't have, yeah, you don't have to listen to when the Pope talks about peace because he's the Antichrist and you actually

have Christian theology on your side by doing the violence you're doing. Yeah, it's the whole, the conflicts and the contradictions are really, really apparent and insidious. I mean, nothing really should be that surprising. But because it was so, this manifesto was so specifically heavily Christian. And in the way that he was, presents his thinking and justification for this attempted, it's so wild to just say this was an anti-Christian.

I mean, that's what they were going to say all no matter what, right? Like they have the things that, well, if, you know, anti-Christian hates Christians, hates whoever it was they hate the white people and they're trans and we need a ballroom like they have all the things that they're going to say no matter what Elon tweeted this stupid bullshit if they're willing to die to assassinate imagine what they will do if they gain political power well they do every four fucking years you stupid dumb piece of shit what are you talking about they it's one guy shut up But it's like the thing that they always do when anything like this happens, they just have to...

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Pineapple! You want to talk about how it's fake? Should we talk about how it's fake? Do not take us seriously with that. But we are going to now address how immediately in the wake of this, the internet has exploded with different justifications or beliefs, some of them wilder than others of why this was a conspiracy theory. And...

For the purpose, probably of getting the... The ballroom built is the theory. Well, so here's, here's, well, here's the thing. Here's, here's the situation. Lay it on me. Lay it on me. I'm going to hold back for a while. First of all, it's funny.

Go off. Number one, really funny. What is specifically? The idea that he would do this to get the ballroom is really funny. So the problem is that Donald Trump and his entire movement are the conspiracy movement. And they think everything is, they think everything is a false flag, everything's a si-op, everything is fake in order to get whatever the government wants at the time. So they have this built-in belief system that everything

that they don't like is fake and anything bad that happens was and so on and so forth. We know this. So it's easy to jump to conclusions when they act or when something happens because they're also the party of projection. They always project. They always accuse people of doing the things that they do. So it would make sense like, oh yeah, of course they would do that. Of course, they think everything is like a sciop or like a false flag. So of course they're going to try to do a bunch of false flags all the time for dumb shit that they believe. They've primed people to assume the worst in them. And I don't like, I'm not like a boy cried wolf. But there is a little element of just, you've primed people to think that you're the most full of shit people in the world. So, of course, they're going to do this. Also, we know that there's this built-in apparatus where you have like 50 to 100 MAGA accounts on like these group texts with people in the White House coordinating messaging. So when this happens, the message goes out, ballroom. We're doing ballroom today.

And so they all do it. And so it seems very coordinated because that part is. So it seems like the thing like, okay, we're going to do this. We're going to do this. And as soon as it happens, tweet about the ballroom because we've got to get the ballroom. And also, like a week or two before a judge said, you can't do the ballroom unless you can prove that there's a security reason. Motive, sure. I'm not going to argue about motive.

Motive is there. Character. Character is part of it. And the circumstantial stuff about the messaging. but probably not the skill to pull it off I would argue with like Cash Patel can't even keep

the fact that he's getting toasted weekly at the poodle room in Vegas under wraps you're really going to keep under wraps that you wrote a manifesto and we're like well we still got to call him a pedipa. Dude it's so much funnier because if they do if it's if it's true and I'm not we're just having fun right now

but if it is true then that means that Cash Patel was like but don't mention me. Make sure you treat me nice and make me out of it's so funny but still call Trump a pedophile rapist in the thing you still don't put that in it. Keep me out of this is so funny and then there's the element of the conspiracy theories around this that also apparently involved time travel because I was having fun that worked at NASA when he does the work at the worked there at the same time as an intern a few years ago,

tweeted just the name. And then also apparently the banner is this colorful thing. And a bunch of people have decided that underneath the layers of all the colorful abstract banner is the picture of the Donald Trump post-Buttler attack. And then it says, and you should not be taken seriously, but some suggestions of, yes, time travel. And this somehow also ties in with all of the scientists that have died over the last few years that are somehow loosely associated with JPL.

And I'm going to assume human alien hybrids. So this shit is so excited about. Anyway, anyway, I just feel the need to acknowledge that that is in the soup. I didn't know time travel included the ability to time travel with JPEGs. Like, I'm going to bring this JPEG of the president and change the thing. That's, Jonathan, you don't understand because they've been silencing these sciences. Seems like the JPL person probably just like searched on their Twitter for the intern name or something. And it was tweeted.

Right. I don't know. I don't know. It's a weird coincidence. It is a weird coincidence. coincidence in a situation that has lots of weird coincidences. Yes, that is extremely weird. I don't know if I'd lean into the polymorty alien time travel sort of situation.

I mean, I just want to bring it back to how it is funny that everyone kind of assumes this about them. Like, they're the, like, they are the type of administration who would do a stupid false flag about getting a ballroom. And I'm not saying that they are doing that or they did that. but it is really funny that this is the situation they find themselves in now. They created this atmosphere in this world where you can't trust the government for literally anything and they're all doing false flags at you all the time and everything is fake and they're all trying to manipulate you with these like these like big events and stuff. And so, well, what do you have now?

Now nobody believes a fucking word you say. They don't think you got shot in the ear. They don't think somebody was here for the, like it's just very funny. Also, I do think I love the idea that they, and again, this is all, this is fake. I love, but I love the idea of Trump doing a fake assassination attempt in Butler. Another one. And realizing that, no, don't worry. I'm sorry.

So doing a fake assassination attempt in Butler and then realizing, oh, it works. I got Joe Roganamo said, I got these people. I won the election. I know. But the idea that, like, in his mind, is like, oh, it worked. I got the election. So, like, okay, I want this ballroom. We could just do an assassination attempt.

And then, like, in three weeks, he's like, Malani is mad at me. We could do, like, an assassination attempt. And just, like, he's, like, I love the idea that he gets, just gets into doing false flags to get out of, like, interpersonal issues and, like, bad social situations. Now, do you think that it's, like, the guy is an actor? who agreed to it,

or do you think they just kind of like what they're arguing in Michigan that they encouraged him and let him get to a certain point thinking he was going to have a shot at it but he didn't know he was being used as a patsy is that the argument? Do I think? No, not do you think. I'm trying to

I always like... I know, I know. What is the through line here? Everybody and I have to know like, okay, you think it's fake. Tell me what you think happened because I just, I'm Akam. Was there? There was an Ackham who made the razor. Yeah, you're the razor. I'm always just like, well, tens of millions of people hate this guy and this country has

tens of millions of guns. Just makes sense that occasionally one of those people who hates him is going to try to do something. Like, you know, it just makes much more sense to me. I agree with you completely, to be clear. I don't know what the answer to that is. And look, I want to believe in, I want to believe. You want to believe, I know.

You know. but it all crumbles into dust and I try to think about how this person that obviously has held a certain set of views for a long time very publicly got got by the FBI by Cash Patel in some capacity like

hey buddy we're going to pay off your student loans if you just take one for our team no I don't think so The more logical thing was like they say we had no idea but maybe they'd like let it. I don't know. But it doesn't. Or like you said, like lightly encouraged him.

Lightly encouraged. All right. We know, we know what's going to happen. I will say it didn't help that the advertising for the show, for the, for the event included Caroline Levitt saying that Donald shots will be fired tonight. To rumble, is he not? He is ready to rumble. I will tell you this speech tonight will be classic Donald J. Trump. It'll be funny. It'll be entertaining. There will be some shots fired tonight in the road. So everyone should tune in. It's going to be really great. I'm looking forward to hearing it.

I love it all. And you wrote most of it, you said. I can't take credit. In true Donald Trump fashion, the man puts his pen to the paper himself. So it's a lot of his own work. That's of course she's going to say that. Wouldn't she be less likely to say that if it was a setup? Why leave clues? Why leave the clues?

I don't know. But it is part of this. It's wild. It's, I guess, like, he was going to go up there and mock all of them. He was going to fire some shots at Caitlin Collins. I see some scum over here. You're a disgrace. You're a disgrace.

He couldn't. I'm sorry. He already got to do that. That I was going to say. He already got to treat a reporter like shit to their face in responding to the manifesto. Nora O'Donnell in there. I don't even know what to make of it. It's one of my favorite things that a reporter interview with Trump has done in a long,

fucking incredible. I don't know. Okay, here we go. The so-called manifesto is a stunning thing to read, Mr. President. He appears to reference a motive in it. He writes this quote, administration officials, they are targets. And he also wrote this. I'm no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands.

with his crimes. What's your reaction to that? Well, I was waiting for you to read that because I knew you would, because you're, you're horrible people, horrible people. Yeah, he did write that. I'm not a rapist. I didn't rape anybody. Oh, you think, do you think he was referring to you? Excuse me. I'm not a pedophile. You read that crap from some sick person. I got associated with stuff that has nothing to do with me. I was totally exonerated. You're

friends on the other side of the plate are the ones that were involved with, let's say, Epstein or other things. But I said to myself, you know, I'll do this interview and they'll probably, I read the manifesto, you know, as a sick person, but you should be ashamed of yourself reading that because I'm not any of those things. Mr. President, these are the gunmen's words. Excuse me. You shouldn't be reading that on 60 minutes. You're a disgrace, but go ahead. Let's finish the interview. The other thing that he wrote in the other thing in the manifester that... Nora. What an idiot.

Nora. Who else would it be referring to? Don't play dumb. Don't play dumb with me. Incredible move. It's so funny. Brilliant. But also just being like, oh, you think he was referring to you?

I've never heard you being accused of being a pedophile rapist before. He might have been talking about Scott Bessent. But not Cash Patel. Oh, no, no, no. No, no, no. I support her and her endeavor and her little move. Very funny. His face is always really interesting to watch in situations like that

whenever he's asked about a thing. Yeah, just the shiftyness and sort of like looking at the camera, the little glance, the sort of like, like, no, like the eyebrow sort of acting that he's doing. Also, it's funny, I guess, just this is CPS news. You're supposed to think they're good now. Like you're not supposed to think that they're horrible. I know. I hate to hand it to a CBS News endeavor.

And I don't even know, like, I like it because it's funny. I like it because she was set up to do it. And there's so much about this. There's more about this interview. He was given us like a very easy question of like, were you worried about other people? And he's like, no, I wasn't worried. I felt very safe because he saw all the cops and Secret Service people running in.

like if there was ever an opportunity for you to say yes I care about other people just fake just fucking pretend i was really hoping nobody got shot and i'm so thankful for these officers he's like no i thought i knew i was going to be fine no no compassion no we want you to at least pretend like you care about other people nope yeah no no plenty to be said about how apparently the secret service got jadie vans first um i mean there's lots to say i i i it's Does it really matter? Stay healthy for his fight with the Pope, the Antichrist, yeah. RFK being hustled out and then Cheryl Hines running after him, the theme plays itself behind there. I'm sure someone's made it, and it's out there.

But you're just walking around going, boom, boom, bum, budda, da, da, especially when you see the clips of, yes, somebody coming back for the bottle of champagne or whatever. And, you know, it's scary if you were there or not. And this is like violence is bad. And I don't want to like, we're like glossing over this because we're wrapping up.

And there are some funny elements to it. But I, you know, it's. We don't like a lot of these people. But I don't want anybody to live in terror. I do not want gun violence. I don't want to be at a night where you've got your babysitter for anybody. I don't want the threat of a mass shooting. ever. Also, I don't want

rapist pedophile to be the president and if as soon as this happens, I don't think I think all the people will be like, this is what happens when you call him a rapist. Well, he is. He did. He did that. This is what happened to do a rapist pedicaping. Several times. At least several times his ex-wife wrote about how he's a rapist. He just

is and I am really, really just tired of of the expected reaction of like the left in their rhetoric and they just need to stop being so fucking, we need to put them in. No, it's a joke. We need to kill these people so they stop killing. I feel genuinely unbought.

I'm not unbothered by it. That's the wrong phrase. The first few times I felt terrified. I'm like, oh God, everything is gonna get pinned on us. I'm like, you know what? Whether it's a right wing shooter or a left wing shooter or something in between, it gets pinned on the left. And that's just the way it's gonna fucking go.

Right now. And I'm not unbothered by it. And the rhetoric, I mean, first of all, we all know where the worst rhetoric comes from. But the president could set an example by not calling entire ethnic groups garbage, by not targeting individuals to his tens of thousands of readers. Not that many on truth social. Like, let's just give it a rest. I know Scott Jennings won't. He gets paid a lot of money to sit there and pretend to that the violence is.

And all the blue. check freaks who are on the group chat who know what they're supposed to do and they want that check so and to be clear that is a real thing there absolutely is messaging that goes Ashley St. Clair was talking about it you know like lots of them that's a collaborator Jack Posobic is in those chats I mean they're very good at coordinated messaging people who call half the country unhuman they're really upset about how you talk about the president um I think that we need to wrap things up here today, but before we go, I need to acknowledge that tomorrow night, Tuesday, Tuesday, April 28th, we will be doing a live stream on our YouTube channel.

Oh my God, the live stream. Pacific Standard Time. Now, we need to advertise this show. We need to promote it on YouTube. It's really difficult to know what topic we're going to talk about tomorrow because stuff happens so fast. The news. I could presume that we're going to talk a little bit more about this, more information that comes from the White House correspondence dinner. Do you guys have any guesses of those things that we might talk about at the live stream at 6 p.m. Pacific time on our YouTube channel. On Tuesday, April 28th evening time.

Yeah. Pacific time. We maybe we'll talk about how while Trump was saying that he wasn't worried about anybody but himself, he said, I understand life. We live in a crazy world. I also saw a lot of very strong, physically strong, really attractive law enforcement people come through those doors. Maybe we'll talk about that. We can probably just play the Nora O'Donnell clip again and do that again and say different stuff. I think we might talk about Florida's going to get in on the redistricting and they're taking a chance that that's going to go really well for them. Trump also this morning alluded to the fact that he's probably going to Trump.

try to rename Ice to Nice. He's going to add the word national in front of it because some random right-wing influencer tweeted how nice that would be and funny that would be. And he said, good idea. And even though it's just a tweet, that sounds like something he would try to do. This is enough. All things. This is enough to tease.

My point is all this and more. Oh my gosh. Titulating. On the Some More News YouTube channel. That's it for us today. We'll be back tomorrow. And in the meantime, remember, we love you very much.