Some More News - Even More News: Birth Tourism, Zohran’s AC Tweets, And Even More MAGA Crashouts

Episode Date: July 3, 2026

Hi. On today's episode of Even More News, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan discuss MAGA's freakout over Zohran Mamdani, MAGA's moral panic over 'Birth Tourism', Progressives winning more and more ele...ctions, and... is Mitch McConnell dead? Have a safe 4th of July!PATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comYOUTUBE MEMBERSHIP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/join#ElonMusk #zohranmamdani #BirthtourismChapters:00:00 - Introduction/Zohran Mamdani Crash out09:31 - "Birth Tourism": the new moral panic30:49 - Democrats F*ck Now!48:10 - Is Mitch McConnell Dead?See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, on today's episode, we talk about the GOP being completely outrage at the prospect of setting a thermostat at 78 degrees and also their newest moral panic, birth tourism. Hi, hello, welcome back to Even More News, the first and a lonely news podcast. I'm Katie Stoll. That's true. Hi, I'm Cody. Hello. Hello, Cody, Johnston. Jonathan is also here today. Friday, July 3rd.
Starting point is 00:00:50 What is it? Air conditioning appreciation day. Oh, great. Oh, surely that couldn't possibly be relevant to the news. Oh, has there been discourse? That would be. There has been some discourse. First off, I want to acknowledge the heat dome that a significant percentage
Starting point is 00:01:08 of our listeners and viewers are suffering through right now, I'm sure you appreciate your air conditioning, even if you have to set it to 78 degrees, or you've been encouraged to set it to 78 degrees. Critical distinction of you have been encouraged and aren't mandated to. So you know what happens every summer, basically, when there's a heat wave, the local government, state government, says, hey, this is going to put a lot of pressure on the grid.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Help us out and turn off lights when you're not using them and keep your thermostat set to 78, et cetera, et cetera. Common. We've all seen it a thousand times. I think I'm getting mad. As you were saying that, I'm getting angry. I'm starting to get really mad. Well, you might be getting mad because New York City mayor Zoran Mamdani tweeted that. New York, it's hot out there.
Starting point is 00:02:00 And the power grid is working overtime to keep us cool. Set your AC to 78 degrees. Turn off lights, electronics you're not using and unplug what you can. this has set the entire American right into a complete frenzy as if it's one the first time it's ever been said by any elected official before and two or like government agency and two as if it is like a some sort of communist mandate and not like hey we're all in this together tight message are you sure are you sure he didn't say that people would go around and arrest you if you didn't set your AC to 78.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Are you sure he didn't say threatened to arrest people? I'm looking at this post. Let's see. Our city is doing its part to maintaining the 78 degrees rule in our buildings. A stable grid means the AC stays on and lives are saved. That makes sense, right? No. No.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And it's just ranting. I'm old enough to remember in 2020 when there were fires everywhere and it was a heat wave. and we also had the recommendation to keep our thermostats not set too low to conserve energy and it's all government overreach. No, do you want the grid to continue running for everybody? Not at the cost of our freedoms, Katie. This Sharia communism is like, I, I'm, it's too, it's weird. There's no turning back now, folks.
Starting point is 00:03:27 It's out of control. Obviously, all governments and all mayors say this. And obviously there are examples of Greg Abbott. doing this and every mayor before Zora and Mom Dani. But for some reason, this one makes me really, really, really mad. I would like to read a few responses to this that I agree with. And all of these people are genuinely mad about this. It's not like some sort of weird astroturfed coordinated reaction to something so innocuous
Starting point is 00:03:57 that happens every fucking year. But for example, Lindsay Graham, first AOC. tried to come for your steak and ribs and now the socialist Democrats are coming for your AC. This is the future that woke all caps Democrats want not just for NYC, but for
Starting point is 00:04:16 South Carolina too. New York is coming for South Carolina folks. Get out while you can. Oh, Lindsay, you're so wrong. New York's going to bring like culture and theater in South Carolina. You're right. No, I do agree. Oh, Lindsay, you're right. Oh, and Nikki Haley
Starting point is 00:04:32 quote tweeting, Zor on Mom Donnie. Or, as they like to say, Zorhan Mondami. Welcome to socialism, says Nikki Haley. Turns out socialism actually isn't free, says Sarah Huckiebysanders. This is so embarrassing. This is what socialism looks like, folks, says Vivek Ramoswamy, or Brandon Gill. Welcome to socialism or Spencer Pratt. Communism always goes the same way.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I don't need to hear anymore. I don't need to do more. Although there is one really funny one I have to say. There's this one guy. He's one of those pranktubers who went, he went out to, I believe, Springfield, Ohio to prove that the Haitians were eating the cats and dogs, which he did not prove in his videos. If anything, he proved that a lot of people there depend on welfare and want it and are upset about not having it. But whatever. He posted a picture of a thermostat at 16.
Starting point is 00:05:33 degrees. And he said, enjoy what you voted for in New York. And then, and then he replied, Libs can't even take a joke. No, this photo is not real. What? I don't know either. I also said, what do you mean the photo's not real? Where's the joke? Did you Photoshop of thermostat to say 60? Is it AI? Does he live in New York? Did you not take a photo over your thermostat? What do you mean the photo isn't real? It's absurd. I thought that was funny. I find 78 to be a bit warm for sleeping. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:06:11 It's supposed to be 82 when you're sleeping. Is it supposed to be 82 when you're sleeping? Ideally. Yeah, you're supposed to. It doesn't matter. But also, you're supposed to have, it's supposed to be cooler when you sleep. But that's not what Zoron said.
Starting point is 00:06:22 So you don't have to be mad at him about that. Be mad at me for bringing up the Department of Energy Standards. Sorry. There are things you can do to cool off. If you guys, if you're watching, watching this and you're frustrated at 78 degrees and you want to do it, but like, it's a little too hot. Get an ice pack.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I don't know. So I'm not pretending like you're going to have a great sleep this week, but I also just, yeah, or. Or this is America. Just ignore him. It's a tweet. It's a tweet that gets sent out, you know, the Texas sends them out every year. Governor Abbott provides update on severe winter weather.
Starting point is 00:07:02 impacting Texas and it says, you know, we have to conserve energy. And I'm sure he ignored that, right? Eric Adams did it. No one's going to come for you. No one's going to cancel you. Giuliani did it, like 25 years ago. Speaking of your point, this is America, Jonathan. I'd like to read one final quote tweet from a Matt Walsh.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Ah, Matthew Walsh. 78 degrees? My A.C. does not go above. above 68 in the summer. This is America, for God's sake. What a rugged, masculine guy who needs his perfect temperature-controlled thing. Okay, okay, Mr. Rockefeller. It does sit in stark contrast with the presentation of himself he wants to give to America.
Starting point is 00:07:53 It sure is in direct conflict with his opinion that all the soft, millennial, metropolitan elites. their AC, yet here we are. Every time you bitch about socialism and create it into some boogeyman that it isn't and people see right through it, you're kind of just advertising for socialism. Also, if, you know, we all try to do our part, I don't have to worry about it. My house does not have air conditioning. And I will probably be a little peeved if during a heat wave the grid goes out because a bunch of other people were cranking it.
Starting point is 00:08:32 and you know what I mean all afternoon and evening but you know what? Oh like the guy at the fair the state fairs? Yes. Oh yeah, should we watch that clip?
Starting point is 00:08:43 Uh-huh. Yeah, there's a clip of a guy cranking it at the American state fair. His AC is what he brought an AC to the state fair and he was cranking it away. Well, it's a really old AC unit so you have to do one of these. And it was drowning out the noise.
Starting point is 00:08:55 The person who was there couldn't hear the band on stage. The other thing that they are still like And it's also very similar because they're pretending a thing that's existed for a long time hasn't existed. They're pretending. They're pretending. They're pretending birthright citizenship hasn't existed since 1868 or what have you.
Starting point is 00:09:17 And so now there's a whole moral panic about birth tourism, which is when people plan, they're like eight and a half months pregnant, and then they sneak into the country just so they can have a baby that becomes an American citizen. and then they take them over back to their other country. And then 20 years later, they run for president. And then we have a foreigner as the president is what I have legitimately heard people say. It's more about voting. It's more about saying that that's our way of rigging elections, I guess. But I don't understand. 18 years from now.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Yeah. If that right. All of the sudden, there's this whole long game thing. I thought we were importing 20 million people to do it right now. But no, we're like sneakily bringing in babies who will then guaranteed vote for Democrats in 18 years. Well, the babies sign that deal. I'm sorry, Jonathan, you are so woefully unprepared for this conversation. When the baby comes out, we give them paperwork to sign and assert that they will be voting Democrat in 18 years.
Starting point is 00:10:26 And that is always how it's worked. along with millions of dollars in welfare apparently and they're just on easy street forever. No, I mean, this has been like, you know, Mark Wayne Mullen, the DHS secretary has been talking about it. Stephen Miller, Todd Blanche. All of these people are like, well, now that the birth tourists can just come here and take over.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And they're also pretending it is a much, much more common thing that it really is. I looked into this and Center for Immigration Studies, which is an anti-immigration group, you know, They want this number to be really high. At first, they estimated it could be high as high as 33,000 babies per year. Then the Niskin and Center pointed out like, oh, you did some math wrong, like some basic arithmetic wrong. And there's some issues with your methodology.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And so they corrected it to be between 20,000 and 26,000 a year. And then the Niskinin Center said, I still think you're doing this wrong. And based on your own methodology, it's probably max 2,000 a year, which would make it 1,20th of a percent of all the babies born in the United States a year. And also, are they pivoting? So all of a sudden, it's not like hordes, caravans from Central America coming in. It's like rich Chinese and Russian tourists. Right. What is it? And then they're also split about what some people don't seem to care about that specifically versus people trying to, you know, immigrate here and live here. I don't know what the argument is. I don't know what they're most concerned about because there's, there seems to be a splintering
Starting point is 00:11:58 of opinions. Yeah, I mean, it's real disgusting what they're doing and also extremely confusing and wrong. I do think there's a little bit of flailing going on here. Like, they kind of don't know what the moral panic should be, what the culture war should be now
Starting point is 00:12:15 because... That's what I'm getting at, yeah. They're straddling the fence between birth tourism and Zoron wants to take away your air conditioning. Oh, yeah. Come and take it. My name.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Dami. Because AOC wanted to take your ribs? It's just any sort of like suggestion of like, well, what if we did this to try to like mitigate this or then it turns into so you're mandating that nobody can go outside. It's they don't, it's absurd. They have to be angry about something. They have to be angry otherwise they're not mobilizing their base. So you're always going to be angry.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Even though they got quote unquote wins this week. from the Supreme Court. Yeah. And even this birthright citizen ruling, it's not like great. It's terrifying. But they have to be angry about something. And especially this year because it's the midterms.
Starting point is 00:13:16 They know that it's not going to be great for them probably. It's why they're doing a big convention in, I think, I forget, September, October. Yeah, a midterms. A midterm convention, which you don't do. They know that they need to get some sort of rally going so that they don't get slaughtered during the midterms. You know, he's able to end the war. And who knows the status of that at this point? And even if gas prices don't go completely out of control, he still has to deal with the fact that he took a trillion dollars from health care and food assistance for poor people and gave it to rich people.
Starting point is 00:13:58 people. And I know like that doesn't really track the the A to Cing of that for a lot of people. But the fact of the matter is is that he really exacerbated wealth inequality and stole money from the poorest people in our country. And they will feel those effects and you know. Two billion dollars, richer. I wanted to play this clip. I don't know if you guys watched this that I sent around this like zero hedge podcast. with Kurt Mills and Will Chamberlain. And the background is that Will Chamberlain is like a online MAGA guy. Cody, would you describe him?
Starting point is 00:14:40 Oh, yes. Yeah, just totally in it, 100% online MAGA guy. And Kurt Mills has this publication American Conservative, which purports itself to be like a little more just non-interventionist, more libertarian-ish, I would say. Well, at any rate, I want to play a clip from this that I think gets to the heart of what this entire debate is.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I don't really see it any way to say that Elon Omar is not an American in the sense that I'm an American without getting into she's black, she's Muslim, and I think that's a really unhealthy road to go for the country. Why oppose immigration outright? I don't really
Starting point is 00:15:16 get it. So I don't oppose immigration for anything else other than like big of the reasons? I mean no, no, no, no. No, no, it's like if you, I mean, I think you assume that the reasons would be bigoted rather than looking at somebody like Ilan Omar and seeing her ideology as fundamentally American-I think you look if you look yeah look we've had this in American history I think that's fascinating because you know Kurt Mills is saying like look it's a really
Starting point is 00:15:40 dangerous road if you start saying that the government can say take citizenship away who is and isn't more American than another right like even as a conservative that's a really dangerous road and Will Chamberlain's like but if you're not going to be upset that she's black and Muslim why are you against immigration at all he's just like Like, it's because we're all, it's because it's the racism. It's the bigotry and the racism. Yeah, we're supposed to be, we're supposed to be racist. So it's like, I think you just lost the debate there, Will.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Oh, not in his mind. But I do think they try to like hide or very thinly veil the racism. Like J.D. Vance does. And he's like, they know there's completely reasonable. Most of them know they're supposed to. But some are tired of getting that memo. I guess I don't feel as though they are trying to hide it. at all anymore.
Starting point is 00:16:30 This guy gentleman is, this person gentleman, is saying like, well, that's a dangerous path to go down. But yeah, the debate here is, I mean, it's not, the conversation is very clearly about racism. I mean, even everything that's coming out
Starting point is 00:16:52 of the president's mouth. All the things these people are saying. I guess you can argue that it's thinly veiled, but I, I don't think there's any pretense anymore about it. For many of them, there is not. There is not. And it depends on the audience too, right?
Starting point is 00:17:06 Like, if you're on like the Zero Hedge podcast, you might feel a little more open to talk about it in this way as opposed to like, well, like if J.D. Vance is like on the view, he knows he can, he needs to talk about it a little bit softer and try to remove it from that realm. but then he's on, you know, Fox and Friends later, and he's just yucking it up and happy to do it. So I think an important part of this conversation is the way that they're not really accepting the ruling and people, not that I necessarily think it will move,
Starting point is 00:17:43 these suggestions will move forward, but so many pundits, so many officials are out here suggesting ways to change laws, to circumvent this. you know, Mark Wayne Mullen saying they could prevent foreign pregnant women from entering the United States. Sean Davis, co-founder of the Federalist, I guess. Man, all these guys have blocked me so long ago. Denying entry to all female foreigners. Requiring sterilization of all foreign visitors prior to entry.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Yep. Are you kidding me? And he's trying to put forth that he like is. He's like, well, this is all, these are the only options you've left us with. You know, after this ruling, this is what we have. You shouldn't be surprised that we're saying all the Nazi stuff. I think you can be normal, actually. One of the options is being normal and not a Nazi about it.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Well, and then it because you can't like freak out about it because our country is still here and it's been this way for 150 years. So you have to pretend that. it's a brand new thing, kind of like Sean Davis is here and kind of like J.D. Vance does in this Laura Ingram clip. It's fundamentally a loophole that now exists in our immigration system that rewards illegal aliens just because they have a baby in the United States while they're in our country illegally. So I think that loophole is going to cause a lot of problems. There are a number of things that we're already looking at in the administration, Laura, to try to close down that loophole.
Starting point is 00:19:19 But fundamentally, what we're talking about is fixing a problem the Supreme Court created. We also want to look over the long term at undoing that problem to begin with because, again, this was only a five to four decision, Laura. How many times did we hear people say that this was going to go eight to one against the administration? We made some very compelling arguments. We have the better of the case. We've just got to keep fighting at this. And this drives home, Laura, why the midterms are so important. because it's the senators who ultimately vote on those Supreme Court justices.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Imagine if one of the five justices who made a bad call today, if they left the Supreme Court, we want to make sure we get somebody good on there in the future. But like they're all just acting as if like, well, what the Supreme Court's decision does has put us in this spot where we have to X, Y, and Z, how? The country's here and it's what's the problem? I guess it doesn't really matter if there's a how, bringing it back to my first point. which is make a lot of noise and be angry about something to get people riled up, to get them involved and not checked out in time for the midterms, I guess, from their base. And this is a way to do it.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I don't know. Maybe they will try to do this shit. It really is explicitly like Nazi stuff. Like some of the stuff that like Stephen Miller is saying and J.D. are saying and a lot of these guys are saying, especially Matt Walsh, is like from MindConf. The way they're talking about citizenship, the way they talk about who deserves it is paraphrasing some stuff. I would even point to, as you know James Lindsay, he's like an anti-commy weirdo kind of freak. Even he is like, so I actually agree with the point here.
Starting point is 00:21:07 But it's interesting to note that Hitler says almost the exact same thing in mind comp. I was reading this quote, today the right of citizenship is acquired primarily by birth within the boundaries of a country. or membership in the nation place no part at all, an N-word who used to live in the German protected territories and now has a residence in Germany, brings a German citizen into the world if he has a child in the same way any Jewish, Polish, African, or Asian child can be declared a German citizen. That is one kind of naturalization by birth within an extended territory. They're just like, they have the same issues with it. They might not drop an N-word when they talk about it, although these days they, many would. Steve Miller saying more or less,
Starting point is 00:21:47 exact same thing and tying it to like well we invented airplanes so they shouldn't be able to get like on an airplane and come over here like it's just like Stephen Miller gave a speech in front of a big fountain this morning while there were protesters and sirens and people booing him
Starting point is 00:22:03 I don't know I think I was freedom 250 related him and Hegg Seth were out there and Stephen Miller was like you know there's two kind it was basically Ben Shapiro's bug you're like there's two kinds of people in the world builders and like follow And the people who use and take.
Starting point is 00:22:20 And he's just like, all of civilization can be fundamentally divided into two groups of people, builders and destroyers, between the people who do the work to build, sustain, and nurture civilization. The people who serve, who sacrifice, who give, who care for others, who protect others, who defend others. And those who only destroy, who litter, who rob, who graffiti, who deface, who degrade, civilization only exists because of people like you. And we're the, me, we're the builders,
Starting point is 00:22:56 and they're the, like, he doesn't even have to give examples. He doesn't give any examples of something. What did you build, dude? I always go back to his little speech in high school about how you got to pick up, you shouldn't pick up your trash, just throw it on the ground because we have custodians to do it for us. It's like, well, are those, they're building.
Starting point is 00:23:15 I think the builders are the ones to just take. Right. they're building a clean world for you to live in. It's disgusting. But it's like as close as he will come to just saying like, I think I'm superior and I think all of these other races are not superior and should either not be here or be in a subservient role to me. Like what?
Starting point is 00:23:34 What's the problem? Like that is what he is saying that like the words are barely jumbled. Yeah. It's really quite, they're all disgusting people. I want to sit in this for another minute because it's from all angles they're doing this specifically about this birthright citizenship. Obviously, like their reaction to it and what they want to do to like quote unquote solve it is racist and just sort of like Nazi rhetoric actions literally proposing we sterilize people coming to the country. What are you doing, Sean? Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:24:10 As in like leave, like leave the country forever. But another reaction that's been out there from people. like Matt Wall specifically, but other people in that realm is that the reason this happened is because women are on the Supreme Court. And it's women's fault that this happened and that people should take that into account in the future when they are nominating judges, for example. The reaction to this is saying that women should not be a part of public life and are not intelligent or reasonable enough to have any role in our society. And I maybe people like it's not like really bubbling to the top but like they're all saying it now.
Starting point is 00:24:56 They're not they're not saying worse. I hope so because it's really disgusting what they're saying and they're very clear about it. I mean, I've seen it several times this week. I don't know if it takes hold in a very real way moving forward, but I wouldn't. I'm not ready to say that it won't. I think that it is certainly getting into the zeitgeisty conversation. Like they're already like obviously many of them talk about like the right to vote and how we can disenfranchise people in different ways. And some of that is like, well, only the only the man of the household should vote or like only like this, this type of person, whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:35 But this is literally them saying like, no, women shouldn't have these positions in the government. They shouldn't be able to participate. in the way we run society. They are not equipped to do it. Literally, they're just saying, like, men are superior in all of these ways, and we can't allow this anymore. At the same time, they're like, well, what, like, what, so like women, what rights don't women have now?
Starting point is 00:26:02 Like, what do you mean, like, we need to, like, protect women's rights and have more equality in society? It is. But then as soon as we do, like, well, no, we can't have that. got actually get rid of them. We can't have them have any of these positions. Well, also it's just like it's, yeah, the stuff he disagrees with and he blames the liberals on the court and Amy Coney Barrett specifically. But like, and I'm not a, you know, Supreme Court expert, but there have been some bad decisions and some bad justices on that Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I don't know if Matt Walsh knows this guy, Roger Taney, did, you know, wrote the majority opinion in the Dred Scott case. He might be a fan. Who knows. Pretty maligned opinion. People don't like that one. Might have been one of the worst justices. But, you know, who knows?
Starting point is 00:26:50 Maybe Sonia Sotomayor with her, like, clapback dissents as somehow. With her being a woman and all. With her being a woman. Well, he's an incredibly sexist, shitty guy. Do you like Sandra Day O'Connor? I don't know. I'm sure he could find. It is interesting, though.
Starting point is 00:27:06 It's just such a messy soup. All of the different lines of thinking here, justifications as for why they feel so angry and blah blah blah. But in one breath, you are trying to discredit women in general from having positions of power or, you know, serving on the Supreme Court in this situation. And you're also having all this fake outrage about what this does to white women. White American women are going to be eradicated because these foreign babies are going they're going to have more babies than our white women
Starting point is 00:27:43 and they're trying to genocide white women and whatever. Who can't be in charge of anything. Yeah, no. But they can't be in charge of anything. This is what I'm getting in. Protect them from having to make any decisions for themselves. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Well, yeah, that is ultimately what they want. Yeah, it's a big mess. And it's just this is it. I think this this birthright citizenship decision is a really good example. It's bad. It's bad. It's a good example of like kind of so, like just so much of where the right is now. Because it's not just, okay, well, how do we do racism and Nazism more? Obviously, we need to like sterilize people coming into the country.
Starting point is 00:28:24 So you have like the Nazism in that respect. And then also obviously the misogyny and the sexism and just the desire for an only male society. And also they just lie all the time about what these things. words mean. There's so many lies about just, uh, about this decision about, like, they'll share quotes, like old quotes, uh, about this and then, but they'll cut it off halfway through and they're like, or they'll put the whole thing and be like, you didn't read that. Yeah. It's like, did you like check the punctuation? Exactly. And it's just so obvious. Like, some people are just doing it because they know like, oh, I saw one of them do it. I'll do it,
Starting point is 00:29:07 too. Like they're going along with it. But some of them know that they're lying. And it's just this big like, just like shotgun of just like, here's racism, here's sexism, here's all the lies, here's everything that we do about this one thing. That has been in existence for more than 150 years. But it's brand new. J.D. Vance talked about it on the shows. He's like, yeah, this decision, like it really does this for, like it's going to change the world. Like, no, it's always been like this. You're pretending. Has anybody accused Amy Coney Barrett of being a social? not quite but they do accuse her of being a stupid woman who shouldn't have the job they've called they've called her woke they've they do all that kind of stuff I was just
Starting point is 00:29:54 trying to transition to our next topic I thought you asked me a real question the answer but I mean honestly the way that was received I'm like well it's we're not far off from that yet despite everything about who she is I mean well she's they call her she voted to end the TPS that will affect Haitian migrants and she is two adopted Haitian children Well that's the thing They call her a race traitors
Starting point is 00:30:19 What they call her They do Yuck Yeah Anyway speaking of Socialism And what I The point I made earlier
Starting point is 00:30:31 That they keep crying Cry harder about socialism Actually please do Because I don't think it's stopping Progressive candidate from getting a foothold. Jonathan, why don't you set us up to talk about some good news this week, some electoral good news? Yeah, we briefly mentioned this on our Tuesday night stream.
Starting point is 00:30:54 So, yeah, it's not just New York City that is seeing some progressive victories. Melat Kiroz, a 29-year-old Democratic Socialist, I apologize if I mispronounced her name, defeated a 15-term incumbent Democrat in Colorado in the primary. She is a former lawyer. She lost her job after refusing to delete a social media post where she defended pro-Palestine campus protests and tried to draw a distinction between anti-Israel protests and anti-Semitism. She wouldn't delete it and she got fired from her firm.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And so that became a prominent issue in the campaign. Did the vice president come out and say that it's okay that she said that because he says it now all the time? No. And defense free speech and thinks that you should be able to say stuff like that? No, okay, I didn't think so. He didn't mention that now. He didn't mention that. She, Milat, Kuros, beat U.S. rep Diana de Gets.
Starting point is 00:31:57 And yes, she's been in office for a very, very long time. What's interesting about this is that. that to get wasn't the most middle of the road candidate or, you know, rep that we've had. She just didn't do much. She hasn't done much for a long time. She's like for Medicare for all, but she also receives a lot of money from, you know, healthcare industry. And I just think it's just so fascinating to see what's happening and exciting to see what's happening
Starting point is 00:32:30 all across the country, not just in New York. city, people being fed up with the status quo, people being fed up with voting over and over for these people, and them doing nothing with it. Just kind of coasting by, coasting through. A lot of people, you know, were giving Kuros flack because she's not, again, not even, not the most centrist candidate, but it doesn't matter anymore. We want change and we want to. to get as many people as we can that loudly state their values and get some new blood in there. And I think it's all very, very, very exciting. And this is despite not having support from the Democratic establishment, despite that Matt Walsh's banging the drum of socialism is evil and Mondani's communist
Starting point is 00:33:27 New York City is not a specter. In fact, it is it is inspiring people across the country. That's my takeaway from this. Part of it is, you know, it's strategic. You look at what districts you can get somebody in there and pull, you know, have up a small part of the Democratic Party in Congress be like an actual speaker to these sort of left wing policies and values and hopefully be able to participate in the rest of the party when Congress is in session and have that part of it. because you don't have really a multi-party system beyond the two parties. And so you have to play with one of the two parties. I am just trying to focus on positives right now at this moment in time. And I know we're all nervous about midterms, hopeful about midterms, but nervous to see how it shakes out because that will determine the next two years and a lot of years thereafter, potentially, how this goes.
Starting point is 00:34:32 But in general, seeing all of these people across the country running these races very competitively is giving me a lot of hope for our future in general. Because for too long, we've been looking around twiddling our thumbs. Like, who's next? Who's the next Bernie? AOC. We've got AOC. Mom Donnie can't be president. Yet to do other stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Could do other stuff. But as it stands right now, he can't be president. And he's like who, we need, we need fresh people. We need young, energetic, passionate, idealistic people to be stepping up to the challenge because it is a horrific challenge to be thrown through the ringer on a national stage like this to, you know, have the Twitter armies saying everything ugly possible, lying, just lying and letting and getting away with it. So you have to be very brave and strong and have the fortitude to survive this.
Starting point is 00:35:34 And I'm really blown away and inspired by people across the country stepping up to the plate. And it makes me feel good that maybe in 10 years from now will have a very different array of people to be supporting nationally. Yeah. Well, and the more progressive people, Democratic socialists, people on the left that win, it just is going to force the establishment Democrats to start to take it seriously. It's not like they have to change everything they've always been, right? But there can be like a transition
Starting point is 00:36:12 as people go from being more moderate. Like we have seen moderate Republicans become absolutely foaming at the mouth, racist. Gleefully. Yeah, gleefully. Dragged across the, yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:28 But what I'm saying is, like, like that same thing can happen. The party can be pulled to the left. The party can push forward more progressive ideas, especially if the people who win are like young and charismatic and attractive and cool. It might make some of those the Andrew Schultz's of the world be like, oh, maybe this is the cool side instead of what I thought. Democratic Party fucks now.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Did you guys, can you believe it? Yeah. I mean, that's an argument. As silly as it is, that is, you know, median voter stuff that we're and also, you know, a real normal people being able to talk is good and not sounding like your stuffed shirt type of politician. I don't need a candidate to be hot, but I do appreciate charisma because they can sell a message to the population, can come across, authentic, et cetera, but also perhaps can work with people and get stuff done by using that charisma in the parameters of their job. job. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:31 And just being able to keep, I find it frustrating because like what you're talking about is like, yeah, you want to get some more passionate young people in the party to, you know, pull left. Because wrinkles are gross. You all know that. Exactly. But, you know, while the Republican Party is doing that too, that makes it easy for dishonest people, some silly, foolish types to equate them and say that it's the exact same thing.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And that is, I just, no real point. This is very frustrating to see people sort of take your, take your point and say, yeah, they're pulling them left like MAGA did. They're just like MAGA. It's a mere image of MAGA. Well, it's not, I mean, mechanically, I guess, functionally in like, if you look at it like this and they're pulling them.
Starting point is 00:38:26 A different way to take all that same argument would be to look at it as, look, it worked for MAGA. It worked for MAGA to lean in to the, like the party was dying. Like the Republican Party wasn't so hot, but they were fracturing. And you've got these other factions that brought in more people and they're listening to the populist message. Well, what's our version of that? Do we want to win elections? We've got a lot of people that are dissatisfied with the status. quo. I don't know if I'm articulating this properly or if people are going to get mad at me,
Starting point is 00:39:01 but basically I'm saying as a strategy, when your party is hollow and broken in a husk of itself, where's the energy and where's the momentum? And for us, it's in leftists, in the progressive circles. It's in creating new ideas, new attention to Medicare for all, solving the issues that people actually care about. And you would be smart to take note that something is missing at the heart of the Democratic Party. And these people are doing outstanding work organizing on a grassroots level, inspiring people to get out to get involved.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Got good ground game. Ground game is there. Without corporate donors that it's possible. And now imagine if the Democratic Party supported them. Yeah, and I know it won't convince, you know, the people on the right when New York City does not fall apart and is fine, and actually people get, like, cool public services and like those things. But, like, there's a- If they survive, that 78 degree. Yeah, but people who are like- Declaration.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Vaguely right of center have become okay with some of the extreme stuff over there, even if they're not, like, vocalizing it, even if they're not, like, ranting on. ex racistically. They still vote for that party because they're like these people kind of get me and have my best interests at heart and I think a left word thinking Democratic Party would do the same thing and bring people
Starting point is 00:40:38 along and it's easier to get you know down with our ideas because they like help people and are going to be. They actually like mesh well together we've talked about this before. Right wing populism is fake. It's a grift. They're not
Starting point is 00:40:54 compatible but a multicultural multi-racial coalition of the working class actually like working together to bring about things like equality and equity that those do work together. Also a little bit of reporting this week that Kamala Harris has been having some closed-door meetings with prominent progressives and even called Zoramam Dani last week, presumably to discuss how the heck he did it. Where do you get that charisma? Harris 2020. Harris 2020 stuff. She's offering him a job to run her social media ground game. I bet. I don't want Kamala to run. She's running. She's running. She's running. You know what? Better late than never. although I would say like it's really really late actually
Starting point is 00:41:53 and maybe like the time for this was like a year and a half ago but whatever I don't think she'll get past like fifth place in the primaries I don't think she's going anywhere I mean she was the first to drop out in 2020 or I mean 20 late late 2019 actually on the one hand I do appreciate people having showing signs of growth and reaching out to try and in presumably in good faith
Starting point is 00:42:20 actually sit down and hear what progressives have to say, work through her stances, and perhaps she is trying to appeal to the progressives when she does want her candidacy. My other side of me knows that Kamala Harris seems to flip around a lot on her stances. At first, she is for Medicare for All, and then she's not. And she was trying to frame herself as being more progressive. and then try to frame herself as being more centrist and seems to be very beholden to the opinions of advisors as opposed to whatever gut instinct or moral clarity
Starting point is 00:43:02 she may or may not have. Called Joe Biden, racist to his face in front of the entire nation. Every democratic establishment type should be having meetings like this, should be looking to Zoran in good faith. You know, kudos for any sort of progress and growth anybody can make
Starting point is 00:43:21 but again instead of private closed doors meetings with pro-Palestinian activists maybe have one of those pro-Palestine activists talk at the DNC instead of not letting them talk
Starting point is 00:43:37 at the DNC I know that she said out of she had a lot of disadvantages going into her campaign given the timing and Joe Biden's insistence and staying in as long as he did, et cetera. But a lot of the mistakes from her campaign came from her. And she had the opportunity to clarify this during the campaign, to make these kinds of changes back then, or at any point over the past two years prior to this, prior to the moment when she's starting to stretch things out, dust off stuff, get back out there.
Starting point is 00:44:15 it doesn't scream authentic to me. It would be fun to see clips of her for a little while. You know, she'll be brat again for a bit. There's sing wheels on the bus and do some fun stuff. I hope she needs to go on the bus. That'd be amazing. Well, we're almost had a time here today, but let's end with something a little bit more fun. So this is a clip of Trump.
Starting point is 00:44:40 We'll truncate this from the whole thing. But here he is talking about that jet that he was gifted. Mr. President, what's your favorite upgrade to the new plane? And how much did it cost American taxpayers to upgrade the plane? Well, it was very little relative to what it would cost if we did it a different way. So this was a gift from a country that's treated us very well. And they're an ally of us over in the Middle East, Qatar. And I went to Boeing.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I said, who is the best one? They said, Qatar. There's never been a plane like it. Frankly, we couldn't build a plane like this because we wouldn't be willing to spend the kind of money necessary. They spent top dollars. So the head of Boeing said, this is considered the best 747 they've ever built.
Starting point is 00:45:27 And I went to Qatar. I said, I'd like to use it for a period of time because the other ones, as you know, are under construction. They'll be here in two years. And because, you know, the plane is 35 years old. That's it. he basically said that he asked
Starting point is 00:45:45 for the bribe plane and then was like we couldn't make a plane like this in this country even though the plane is a Boeing plane that was designed and built in this country it was designed and built in this country right yeah okay yes it was but we can never do that
Starting point is 00:46:01 he just thinks like oh man everyone else around the world does stuff so much better he really just does say that all the time that like we can't do shit and we suck We're so hot right now. We're the hottest country in the world. We can't do anything.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Yeah, we're hot shit, though. We can't do it better. We can't do hot shit. Yeah, this is garbage. We're garbage. Everything we do sucks. Everyone in our country's stupid. They can't build anything.
Starting point is 00:46:25 But anyway, I don't want anyone come celebrate us. But also, I don't want any of them coming here. Let us all be dumb here together. Was there some sort of assertion that this would be a part of his library at some point, that this would not be the official Air Force one? but maybe that's not true. Yeah, he said, I mean, he did say that after his term ends, if that's something that has to happen, I guess.
Starting point is 00:46:48 If the term has to end, it'll eventually they'll just drive the plane in on the ground floor of the, of his library. And so everyone can admire the beautiful plane. But I imagine he'll just keep the plane. The beautiful, uh, Katari craftsmanship that he wants to. So anybody ever worry about, like, things being slipped into that plane, spy things.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I'm sure I've been watching the Americans in that plane yeah I mean look at his lapel that's probably a fucking microphone
Starting point is 00:47:17 also look at these like normal standers back here look I hope he just stands out there and talks for an hour and a half so these guys
Starting point is 00:47:23 just have to continue standing normally do you think like stand in the sun you idiots let's go so the books thing that I was referring to
Starting point is 00:47:31 so Carolyn Levitt press secretary I don't know if she's back from a parental leave yet. Maybe she just came there. So she took a few photos. What a privilege to
Starting point is 00:47:44 be aboard the inaugural flight on the brand new Air Force One. These are fake books and some of them say like library on the spine. That is so funny. Before we go, actually we might as well acknowledge that we don't know if Mitch McConnell
Starting point is 00:48:03 is alive or dead. Yeah. We don't know. On June 14th, we found out he'd been hospitalized, and then TMZ this week put out the 911 call, which made it clear that he had been found unconscious and was rushed to the hospital. And his staff says that he's receiving excellent care, but we have no idea of status or condition or if he ever, in fact, regained consciousness.
Starting point is 00:48:32 This is, has he even regained consciousness in the last two years is a question. I also have. It's been a while. He has been clearly unwelled for a very long time. And it just, it speaks to the rot of this country. First off, just go be old and dying
Starting point is 00:48:49 and don't work. Be done. Relax. You've done enough damage to this country, McConnell. Yeah. Get your flowers,
Starting point is 00:48:58 man. Just so fucked up. The American Republic should not be kept in the dark about something like this. Worry about that. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 00:49:06 they, the right and the last. I mean, I was not happy about the Diane Feinstein of it all as that was playing out. Nobody should be happy about that. But the right was screaming from the rooftops about how it's elder abuse. And yet here, it's just another situation of the utter hypocrisy. Speaking of the specter of death, the other day yesterday, Donald Trump was giving a speech with the rough writers. And he said, three days from now, we will celebrate.
Starting point is 00:49:38 the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. What a document that was. And this week, we look back on 250 years of glorious freedom, and we took so much time and so much effort. And by the way, on July 4th, it's going to be approximately 107 degrees out. And I'm going to go, and I'm going to make a really long speech, just to show that I can do anything. It's going to be 107.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And I support our president in his endeavor to give a really, really long speech in 107 degree heat on July 4th specifically. I would love to experience a living metaphor that the nation can come together and enjoy. I might. I'll be out of town,
Starting point is 00:50:36 but I might try to make sure I'm in front of a TV so I can watch that live. Honestly, it's great advertising. for it. He might get his best readings. Tune in folks for a beautiful metaphor. Thank you everybody who watched our stream earlier
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