Some More News - Even More News: Donald Trump and Elon Musk Might Be Friends Again By The Time This Comes Out

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

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Why hello and welcome back to even more news. The first, the only news podcast. My name's Katie Stoll and I think if you're watching this, you would have known by now that Cody's not here. Cody's at jury duty. Maybe he will record some of his thoughts on this absolutely wild day of news we have. But in his stead, we have been graced by our very own head writer, Dr. David Bell.

Hi. I won $20 on a scratch ticket. Jonathan is also here. Hi. How's it going? Going all right. We were all complaining about our various ailments.

Ailments. Mine's aging related, I think. Yours are otherwise. The steady deterioration. Oh, this one's fun. Friday, June 6th is both National Donut Day and National Applesauce Cake Day. From Massachusetts, so a good old Boston cream

donut from Dunkin' Donuts will do it for me. I will say, I mean, I love nothing more than a real fresh hot donut. Ooh, baby. And it does fill you up, but I feel like I get that sugar crash where then I feel a little nauseous a while later. But I'm not going to think about that part. I just want the donut. I like a cake donut with chocolate frosting. Ooh, so freaking good. And sprinkles too, if you got them.

Well, speaking of donuts, uh, Musk v. Trump. This is the headlining story for us today and probably everywhere. My goodness, I thought I was up to speed. Then I was running around my house doing chores before we logged on and Jonathan's like, have you seen? And I hadn't seen, but now I am about to see

what the fuck is going on. You turned off- It's happening in real time, right? Yes, this is still, I'm sure I will have an update when I refresh again. Katie, you like turned off Parasite after 40 minutes and you're like, I get it, this is pretty good. I get the vibe.

So here's, I'm gonna try to go through the timeline in order. We all know that Elon, they gave him a little ceremony when he left, they're friends, we're buds, it's just like, it's time for you to go back to your companies and we're doing this everyone's friends but then the other day Elon tweeted I'm sorry but I just can't stand it anymore about what he called a massive outrageous pork filled congressional spending bill that's a disgusting abomination and he said that in November next year we fire all politicians

who betrayed the American people. Then today Trump was in the Oval Office, as he is. He, you might not know this, he was hosting the Chancellor of Germany. No one gave a shit about that. He truly did not know that detail. He was, and there were some funny moments there too, but it kind of doesn't matter. I'm sure! He was asked about Elon and all these like tweets talking about how the bill sucks. was asked about Elon and all these like tweets talking about how the bill sucks. We've done a great job. Elon knew that.

Elon endorsed me very strongly. He actually went up in campaign for me. I think I would have won, Suzy would say I would have won Pennsylvania easily anyway. But I'm very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings of this bill better than almost anybody sitting here. Better than you people. He knew everything about it. He had no problem with it. All of a sudden, he had a problem. And he only developed the problem when he found out that we're going to have to cut the EV mandate because that's billions and billions of dollars. And it really is unfair. We want to have cars of all types.

And he hasn't said bad about me personally, but I'm sure that'll be next. But I'm, I'm very disappointed in Elon. I've helped Ilan a lot. This set Ilan off. He's been rage tweeting all morning, like losing his mind over this. He says, this is Ilan, without me, Trump would have lost the election. Dems would control the house and the Republicans would be 5149 in the Senate. Such ingratitude. So he's just saying like, yeah, I helped him steal the election. Yeah. I bought the election for him, and this is the thanks I get, not all the stuff I wanted. This, I mean, it really started going back and forth here.

So Elon was like retweeting old 2012 Trump tweets about how people in Congress should be thrown out if the budget isn't balanced. He says, who wants to join my new political party where we cover the 80% of the people who are in the middle? That's not a thing. Is he gonna call it fucking X? Yeah, the X party. Of course he will. 100%.

Yuck. 100%. So Trump, Trump's gotta hit back. Trump doesn't take a punch and not counterpunch. No. Mm-hmm. So Trump says, he misses this place. People leave my administration They love us and then at some point they miss it so badly and some of them embrace it and some of them become hostile I don't know what it is. It's sort of Trump derangement syndrome

I guess they call it and then after Elon went nuts Trump goes on truth social says Elon was wearing thin I asked him to leave I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted that he knew for months I was going to do. And he just went crazy. And then the easiest way to save money in our budget billions and billions of dollars is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts. Oh, my goodness. And then finish this off I Think we should wait because I want to say that until this point I have this like I have that like conspiracy brain where I'm like Elon Musk is like what's it called the Psyop? Where like he's there to convince poor people that it's okay to be poor because you look at him and you're like well money Doesn't buy happiness on like it just, and at first I thought like, oh, okay, they're just like, you know, I'm suspicious enough where I'm like,

nah, they're pretending to, you know, disagree. And then it started becoming like point of no return stuff. And that's all I wanna say until this next part. Just going back to the beginning when he talks about pork-filled congressional spending, Jonathan, you noted this in the notes, and this is something that I initially took umbrage at. Like, what is it specifically that is pork-filled?

Like what? Right, what don't you like? Like I don't know what you're saying. What don't you like? I do agree, and I do agree that his EV, the cutting of the environmental stuff and his EV, all of that, that had to have played into this. Oh yeah. Rewinding to prior to the inauguration day,

just pontificating, like I give it just a few months until these two are at each other's throat. Like these two giant cults of personality are gonna be in direct conflict. And I have to say that I was feeling a little bit like, I didn't get that one right. I was starting to feel that way. I'm back, baby, I'm back!

I'm gonna go so far to say, I think RFK is next. Ooh, fun! I just don't think you get three egos together like this. It was never gonna work out, right? Never. But that subject of Trump derangement syndrome is always funny because it's Trump giving people this derangement.

And the one thing we know about Trump is that the one thing he was famous for was being like a shitty bot. Oh my god, everybody. Surprise drop in for Mr. Cody Johnson. Cody. He's gonna hit me with a chair. What a day for you to have jury duty.

It's lunchtime. So far in the timeline, we've only gotten. I haven't done the final most recent thing yet, Cody, but we've gone through everything else. Okay. Well, we haven't gone through it. I just said what it was like Willy Wonka they're like run Cody why don't we read the next part and give Cody the moment as of 1 p.m. Pacific time on Thursday so if anything whatever the next thing is I don't know

yet Elon tweets time to drop the really big bomb at real Donald Trump is in the Epstein files That is the real reason they have not been made public have a nice day DJT and then later mark this post for the future the truth will come out. I yield my time. Oh, okay Yeah, so I don't have much time. I just wanted to um think about this in the car the way here Oh My goodness gracious Uh. What? What? What? What? What? What? What? Oh my goodness gracious.

What the most expected funniest thing to possibly happen. All morning everyone's like, so who's gonna call who a pedophile first? And Yolan's like, I got this, don't worry. Incredible. Obviously, we know, we know that, we know. We all knew that. I do think it's really funny that everybody knew.

And also, what he's admitting to is the fact that he knew and was fine with it and wasn't gonna say anything, wasn't gonna tell anybody until Trump was like, I don't, you're outta here. So earlier today, Musk was tweeting, he wouldn't have won without me, this, this, this and like so if we look at the day altogether what Musk is saying is like, yeah, I got a pedophile elected. Yeah, I spent half a quarter of a billion dollars on getting a pedophile elected. And I knew and I was okay with it. But now folks, we gotta we gotta get this information out so you know mutually assured destruction, right?

Well, it's the same with the cars where they were both like like Trump's like I look at greatest cars are and he wants like I love Trump and now they're broken up They're like by the way, I fucking hate your cars. By the way, you're a pedophile and it's it's incredible And I want to get your thoughts on this, Cody, before you leave. He had said before the election and after that you need to, like Donald Trump being president is the only thing

that will save Western civilization. And this election, I think, is going to decide the fate of America. And along with the fate of America, the fate of Western civilization. Does the bill he doesn't like negate that? Because it seems like it got more money for all the stuff he wanted to save Western civilization the deportations and whatnot. So now he wants to start another part I'm sorry you said that you

had to vote for Donald Trump for the future of Western civilization, sir. Well, he did it, but then everything changed somehow. I don't know what happened, but now we need to save Western civilization in a different way. That doesn't involve everyone hating. It doesn't involve that. You know, maybe in a couple of days, maybe he'd be like, happy pride, everybody.

Yeah, I've always supported the LGBT community. He's gonna be doing land acknowledgements at Tesla and Space. So good. Would not be a surprise. Somebody, someone told him, right, that was like, sir, you're not popular in the right wing. You might wanna maybe try another group of people.

Yeah, well the ideal situation is they destroy each other, which is what we kind of hoped would happen and kind of predicted would happen. And, you know, one of them will probably survive a little bit better than the other. But yeah, everyone is the most hateable man. I do think it's really funny. He said like, we need a party for the 80%.

Vans like two days ago was like, if you had an election happen an 80% voted for one candidate You'd be like that's weird And then you started going off on this whole thing about how like if too many people vote for something then it's not democracy Or whatever that's I find just the choice of 80% really really funny If it was directly referencing that or not. I really do got to go But have fun everybody Love you all very much.

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in the cool little party anymore. It's just what he does. So it's like you get Elon with that big ego and you get RFK and you get these guys and it's like, it's Trump is he's there can be only one it's just they're gonna get booted eventually that's just he's a toxic guy like it's clear he's not fun to know or work with or work for so like yeah of course it's gonna happen there aren't that many rewards for it and Trump doesn't seem to care if you like him.

He'll say, I love this guy, he's great, whatever. He doesn't seem to mind either way. He just truthed. I'm not going to read the whole thing because it's mostly about the bill. But he says, I don't mind Elon turning against me, but he should have done so months ago. He doesn't care. Right. He won't like his most dutiful soldier.

And like Stephen Miller knows he doesn't get to do any of the awful inhumane stuff he's doing without Trump. So he'll never reveal what he actually thinks about the guy, blah, blah, blah. But like even though he's been this soldier for him for years, Trump would turn on him too. He'd say like, I never trust a guy who goes bald in his 30s or whatever.

Yeah, he doesn't, like it does not matter to him. True, like there's literally nobody, not even his own family, that the man will have their back or care. If you're useful to me, great. If you're not, you're not. He's the gang from It's Always Sunny, where it's like he seems impervious to consequence,

but everybody around him falls apart. And I remember thinking when Elon got tangled with him, it was like, I don't want Trump to be president. None of this is good. But at least it's not going to be good for him. Like I knew like at least. All right. Well, he's going to ruin Elon and I don't like Elon. So that's that's something at least. Yeah, like I don't expect. I mean, obviously, neither of them is being taken down. Like, it's the president most powerful person in the world and the richest man in the world,

although I don't know how much his net worth has officially dropped. After he sent the Epstein tweet, there was like a plummet in the market, because the market's just like, we're not doing business right now. This isn't good for anybody. Everybody's just leaving the room. I love how Elon was like, time to drop the really big bomb. This Donald Trump character is a rapist.

I almost did a spick take there. I bet you didn't expect that one. Like, yes sir, we've known he's a rapist for a long time. I am like, give me more though. I want some more dirt that we've already known. Like there's video of him dancing with Epstein, it gets played all the time. If people are surprised, then they're just they weren't paying attention. Right. Right. And I'm wondering, I am curious how this affects at least the musk

base, the people that were in willful denial of things like that. I wonder if that is they finally see the clips. They finally listen to what the rest of us have been saying. I don't know, we'll see. It's hard because there's so many levels, right? Where like you think about Democrats and you think about like, you know, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and people that it's like,

I didn't love them, but I was like, they were the best shot we had, right? Where it's like, okay, I don't, you know, there's a lot of internal arguments with Democrats and people on the left and progressives. But there's still that overall feeling of like, yeah, this direction is still the direction we wanna go. So I've heard people talk about Trump that way,

where they're like, I don't love him, you know, but he's, it's my team. It's these, the people, and which I will never understand wanting that politically or being on, but it's a similar idea, I'm sure, where a lot of people are just like, ew, but I guess this is my party, you know? Like there's probably people who don't like either of them

that aren't, it's not gonna change their minds or anything. Oh, a lot of people, yes, for sure. Oh, right, but it's the same with us, just because we find the Republican Party so abhorrent and they wanna do evil things, that it kind of doesn't matter. I mean, the Democrats know this, which is why they try to put up this centrist moderate

to peel off people that will never vote for them. We know the strategy, but like they're like, well, what are you going to do? Vote for these freaks? Like you have to, but like, that's why it doesn't make sense to me to be this like ardent Joe Biden, Kamala Harris defender. Um, we want to be better. Yeah, for sure. We need to normalize public dueling between politicians again. Yeah. And public figures in general. I think that would be just really healing. Okay, let's see. We got some more tweets that just came out. Give us evidence, Elon.

I'll buy a Tesla. Give us the... I can't afford a Tesla. Elon says, in light of the President's statement about cancellation of my government contracts SpaceX will begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft immediately because he's like you can't run the International Space Station Like you have come to rely on SpaceX to like do your space Force without me so now It's very messy and they're both basically admitting that they're going to play with the world Based on their petty feud. Yeah, we're gonna abandon space

Interplanetary all this going to Mars with the support of the US government because I'm mad at the president and Trump is like Oh, I'm mad at you personally. I'm gonna get rid of your contracts. That shouldn't be how things run, right? Why are like is anyone gonna ask them that question? Right? This should be possible in general that two Powerful guys just sort of whining at each other shouldn't be able to change Yeah, the economy this much. I mean, this is one of those things that everybody keeps saying and has to say and it's worth saying again, it's the it's just very funny, the women are too emotional thing, the Hillary.

It's just really funny because they're just, they're such whiners, they're such babies right now. And they're making it all our problem. Oh yeah. The other one has been doing this for years, like Twitter, everything. It's, he's made his problems all our fucking problems. Yeah.

And today I appreciate it, that it's out on full display. Oh yeah. I'm enjoying this. I feel like- Hypocrite. I feel like, you're right, like Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine probably wouldn't have been doing this specifically had they had a disagreement. Remember Tim Kaine probably wouldn't have been doing this specifically had they had a disagreement.

Remember, Tim Kaine was going to be the vice president? What a world. This may change after today, although I don't know why, but a number of Democrats, and this has been floated in Politico as well, of should Democrats take him back? Should we show him that this is the way to go? And I would say no. I would say no reasons. One that he's a semi open white ethno nationalist and horrendously unlikable and political poison. But the idea of taking him back or welcoming him into the fold. Do you want him to try to strong arm the Democratic Party

the way that he has been trying to run this country, the way he's tried to influence Donald Trump? I don't want that. I don't want any of these rich motherfuckers in there trying to get rich off of us and we've got social services personally. Yeah, I'm always for reform, right? And for forgiveness. But when someone walks really far in one direction, who get social services personally. Yeah, I'm always for reform, right?

And for forgiveness. But when someone walks really far in one direction, you have to expect them to walk really far back in the other direction. They can't just go like, hey, I'm not a Nazi anymore. Hey, I'm cool with trans people. It's like, no, we know you're not. We know you didn't, and you haven't done any work

to show you that you're not that thing. And in fact, these are beliefs that I don't know if anybody can come back from. I don't know if anybody has ever, right? Like at a certain point, it's just like, you need consequences. You need to be taken out of public opinion. You need to not have, you know, like, you're, you're, you did a fucking, you did a Nazi sloot, man. You shouldn't be in charge of things. I'm sorry. Like, it's... And it's not like he's tweeting, I no longer believe in great replacement theory.

He's tweeting, like, I'm upset that this guy fired me from the job I didn't really have. Also, the person who's supposedly been running Doge this whole time, has she done a single interview about it? Like, whatever, it doesn't matter. But like, yeah, this jump to be like, what a opportunity for Democrats to get this like largely hated man back on their side instead of like all the people who might like to vote for them to do good stuff. Yeah, it's just it's so incredible. I though only other thing I want to say is like we don't know if like Is this just what the internet did to people like

These are the kind of conversations that I could see screamed over a phone call that would like you know, the audio like like Nixon would record and learn about it years later. You know what I mean? Where it's like, everybody is using social media as their own private diary, but everybody can see it, where it's like, I don't know, is it better that we get to see the world's richest man and the president blow up at each other publicly?

Like, I'm sure something like that has always happened, but it's just happening before our eyes and that's kind of magical. I don't know. It's kind of amazing. Yeah, I mean, the potential for unexpected ramifications I think are what we worry about from this. Who knows what they are,

but when people this powerful are like flying off the handle of this like four days ago, they were singing each other's praises. I'm still gonna be here. We're gonna work together, all this stuff. A few days from that to you're a pedophile and I'm gonna like bankrupt you and cancel all your contracts.

Like, I mean, it is hard to wrap your head around. And but it's kind of the way he does everything. Right. It's tariffs on tariffs off. Elon's my friend. Elon's not. This could go away. They could be friends again in a few days. It's the way both of them handle everything. You know, Donald Trump and Elon's reactions are completely predictable. They're not stable people. And that's why perhaps they shouldn't be in power. You know, it's just, it is terrifying. Like imagine if this was Trump and Putin going at it, and it'd be like,

oh God, are we going to die? You know, it's, it's, I don't know, it's pretty breathtaking that they have so little restraint. Because it is true that like other politicians, like Democrats, they might not be different. They would do it in private. They would do it to not make the stock market go completely berserk.

You know where it's like? And leak to the press. Yeah. It's just this weird lack of self-control that's kind of frightening. The fact that they're doing it publicly. And that's an important point, because we're sitting here having our laughs, which are well- and we've earned them. But in context,

you're completely correct. This is a, a wild exchange, very publicly, a very public meltdown. And it doesn't speak well for us as a country that our president is such a big baby. And so petulance especially yeah I mean it's just as it nothing reflects well on us right now but we're still at the very beginning of this administration I don't think Trump I think he's gonna get out of this just fine I think this is what people like about Trump and honestly if he was some president who believed in things I believed,

I would also like that the president told the world's richest man to fuck himself. I would be like, yeah, that's great. Like I, that's so, that's so like nice to see. This is literally the pitch Donald Trump gives right where he's like, I'm so rich. I don't owe. I don't need anything from anybody. This is him doing that for his base. Basically, like, they're gonna love this. They never liked Elon. Elon was our heel. You know, he was perfect for this, where he showed up, fucked everything up. And now Trump can blame everything on Elon that has happened so far, and can tell him to fuck off and everybody's gonna cheer.

Like it's, it's, I think this is good for Trump. Yeah. He can say, uh, Elon misled me about Doge. He didn't, he wasn't able to cut anything. This was a waste of time. The bill. Yeah. It's, it's like it never happened with Donald Trump, especially there.

There really is no such thing as bad press. Uh, it's just eyes and attention and the spectacle and entertainment too. Even if it's something that is terrible, you're right, it won't affect his hardcore base. It might affect the crossover bases though. The people in the Venn diagram of liking Elon and liking Trump, those people perhaps are affected. Well, I do think that the tech enamoration with Trump has always been a little bit precarious, right? There's never been a sense that we're ideologues about this stuff. So they would come back to the Democrats if the Democrats promised stability and lower

regulation. That's all they need. I'm excited to see Elon on Newsome's podcast. That's what I assume is going to happen. That's all they need. I'm excited to see Elon on Newsome's podcast. That's what I assume is gonna happen. That's funny. Let's see where we see eye to eye. Great replacement theory is real. Regulation's bad.

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Well, whatever never mind So let's talk about the new travel ban real quick because there was like a new Travel ban and now it's like the fifth biggest story of the day. Yeah, he's bringing back the greatest hits. We've got, we're barring visitors from like 12 different countries because of the attack in Boulder last weekend. The White House said that attack underscore the extreme dangers posed to our country by the entry of foreign nationals

who are not properly vetted, as well as those who come here as temporary visitors and overstay their visas. And so he picks a bunch of countries like Afghanistan, Congo, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen, not Egypt, where the attacker last weekend originated. I've seen a few articles that noted like, yeah, so like this many of these are from predominantly like black countries. These countries have served no threat to us. Like in the past, I've no, where it's just like,

it's like I've seen a lot of articles just like passive aggressively being like, it's pretty racist, it seems. Like it's just countries with people that Trump looked at and decided they're a threat. It's interesting how, however many years ago, we all were mobilized. This was the big story when he did it the first time.

And now there's so much going on that, as Jonathan has already noted, this is like the fifth biggest story. You're right. I protest. I was at a protest for the first time this happened. Yeah. It's oh, he's also this is part of this same just being racist

and trying to block people from coming into the United States. He's also directed the Department of Homeland Security and Customs and Border Protection not to allow international students attending Harvard specifically to enter the country. And he's been promoting this plan to remove the student visas of all international students at Harvard and, I think, Columbia, specifically

because he's mad at those universities. They're saying Harvard's breaking the law by allowing anti-Semitism on campus. It's they're going to try to remove all these protections. Like, can't people see the pettiness of this stuff? I mean, they probably don't care. Yeah. I was talking about how Elon would have a long way to go before he could be

accepted in, like, polite society. That goes for the United States too, where it's like, even if we elect like, even if like it's just a fucking Democrat next time, some boring, you know, whatever, whoever it is, and they're like, I'm reversing all this stuff, it's not gonna matter for a while, right? Like if I was another country, if I was wanting to visit,

if I was wanting to do business, it's like, no, you're gonna have to show that like, not only are we done with this stuff, but the people responsible for it are in trouble. And we're really making an effort to, like it's just like all this stuff. Otherwise you don't even feel safe coming here. Yeah, this country is toxic.

I don't have the specific names in front of me, but I will say that from what I understand, a lot of universities are sometimes not in alignment with different guidelines set up to get government funding. And so there is an independent board that will be reviewing the college's practices and whatnot. So it's not a one-to-one immediately happening kind of thing where they'll

get funds pulled or what have you. There's a process is my point. Right. I wish I had the names in front of me but yeah. But this is how Trump does things. It's kind of the same with Doge. He puts a thing in place where he blasts something out there as if there isn't a group already looking into or doing the thing. We're going to do Doge even though forensic auditors exist. We're going to remove these things even though there's a board to look at X, Y, and Z. He doesn't know this or it's explained to him by some nerd and he goes, I don't care. You know, he's just like, I'm gonna say what's happening. It's all about optics and communication.

So the number one thing he wants to do is like, I don't wanna fill people's heads with details. Can I just say I'm canceling Harvard? Is that the thing I can say? Sure, man. All right, let's talk about Palantir. Earlier this week, we got reporting that expanded on something we talked about in our Doge episode of Somewhere News a few weeks ago.

Elon and Trump, I still have Elon and Trump in my notes here. So they were attempting to merge many of the disconnected government information databases on Americans into kind of one master database. That's the news that came out this week that the Trump administration has asked Palantir, which is the software company run by Alex Karp and Peter Thiel is like the main investor, to create a master database

of all of our personal information. And a lot of this is information the government already has, but it's kind of been by design that the IRS does not have your medical information, or that the person who approves a disability claim doesn't have your bank account number, et cetera, et cetera. This is to protect us. That's by design to protect.

Did I hear that Alex Jones was all for this? I saw something about that. I don't know. I think privacy stuff, I think it's just we're going to slowly slide into oblivion with this stuff because I don't think people have cared for a while now. I think we're the last generation that cares about the concept of privacy, digital privacy and stuff like that and it's just gonna be like whatever after this. I just remember I remember like when we were writing for cracked where we learned that anytime we would do a something about like this company is owes all your data or something like

that no one cared. Everybody just assumes it. They're just like, yeah, I assume the government has every, because we watch so many movies, like you watch Enemy of the State, and it's like, they know everything about you, and they can zoom in on the satellites. I think a lot of people just thought, this is how it worked anyway, and now we're slowly sliding into that stuff.

I think that's true, but I also think there's an element of, it feels too big to tackle. It feels bigger than what I'm, I don't have the capability in my mind to scrub everything from everywhere, and we just jumped willy nilly into this whole internet thing when we were growing up.

So I have been posting since I was a child, essentially, you know, a teen, a young adult just in college. And it feels so far gone. It feels out of my control. So there's a little disassociation that happens, I think, where it's like, I don't have room to worry about that. And I'm not a terrorist, so I guess it doesn't bother me.

I don't have anything to hide. Right. And it's always this uneasy comfort of, well, I'm not the person they're going after. They're going after other people. And well, if they have everyone's information, then it's like they don't have mine specifically. It's like when you see there was a big hack of Capital One or something. Oh, they got a hundred million people's Social Security numbers. It's like, okay, then the chances that they'll pick mine are very low.

And that's all you can do at this point. What do they need me for? What do they need my credit card for? I don't know. Why would they want my debt? You know, like, it's just that feeling. But but it is insidious and it is terrifying. And the implications of what they can do with this information,

we all should care about and what they are doing in other countries. And it's all very vague and murky, and you're never quite sure exactly what they're doing working with governments, you know? But it's not good. Well, right, they have the ability to make the Dark Knight wall that they had to destroy after they used it for good the one time,

or the enemy of the state thing or the Machine in a hundred movies to your point Dave about Alex Jones He seems to care not care be on board with this. I don't know if that's true for everybody though Because there seems to be some backlash even within MAGA Trump supporters. Good. Maybe it's overblown. I don't know. We'll see how this shakes out. But at the moment, there's definitely a lot of people being upset about this online.

Yeah, there's some, I don't want to call it a MAGA revolt because that has not been what it is, but it's been surprising to me that this has rubbed some major MAGA accounts the wrong way. You know, Nick Fuentes is seriously of Palantir is in the deep state than what is. Hodge twins say, hope this ain't true, y'all. And then Ashley Cox, I'm starting to think Trump did not flip and this is who he's been all along. I was just blind to it, like so many still are. Hey!

Love it. Love it. I mean, yum, yum, yum. This is weird to, I don't wanna defend them. It's more to say that like, I do get that it's not like any politician isn't like susceptible to this, right? Like I think it's like when Elon bought Twitter and he was like, look at Twitter working with the FBI and stuff like that.

And it was, people were like trying to choose, it's like a choice of the lesser of two evils, right? Where it's like, who do I want to have all my data? But someone's gonna have it. But yeah, it's so funny because it's like Trump was so obviously just opening the door to this shit. He just wants money, that's it. That's all he wants, he's so easy to manipulate.

Like. That's all he wants. He's so easy to manipulate. Absolutely. He's so clearly not the lesser of two evils with this stuff where it's like- Well, if they were worried about Palantir, why didn't they care with Peter Thiel's relationship with Vance and all of, you know? Like, it's a little confusing. Never occurred to them that maybe the guy being funded

by Peter Thiel shouldn't be vice president. What did you think was going to happen? Or maybe they didn't know anything about Palantir at the time? Yeah, I mean, they don't know, I mean, I'd say the majority of American voters don't know who Peter Thiel or Curtis Yarvin is or any of these weirdos.

And I don't think that they're dumb for not knowing it. Like, they don't have to live in this world, and I envy them. Like, why would you need to know who Peter Thiel is, if you're not? Well, it sucks because we do need to obviously know, but it's, people are living their lives. They don't want to be doing deep dive research

on all these characters. No, they're steeped in their propaganda. This goes to a bigger thing that always kind of bothers me with this stuff, which is that like, things would be a lot better if people admitted that's the fact. Because that's the thing is like not everybody is like reading about fucking politics every day researching, seeing these connections. And it would just be so like, but it like people are are Willing to listen to the people who are saying this who would say like no Trump will make this worse Because of this this and this and this where it's like, okay, we don't know what needs to be plugged in

But some people will be and should be and those people we should simply listen to about this stuff then Like it's one or the other because it feels like people were so gung-ho. These people are like, yeah, Trump, he's the best. And then they're like, well, I didn't know this. And it's like, well, you acted like you did. You acted like you knew fucking everything before the election. And now you're suddenly like caught off guard. It's Marjorie Taylor Greene being like, I didn't know this was in this bill.

And I'm like, it's your job to know that. Was it the AI thing she was upset about? Yeah. Yeah. And she's not wrong. She's not wrong. But she's also extremely wrong. She should have known.

Well, she should have known. When it's the pundits and stuff, when it's people like, who do you say, Nick Fuentes, where it's like, I can't believe this. And it's like, aren't believe this and it's like aren't you like a Pundit aren't you like oh you have like a little Nazi show where you tell people your opinion and you're not plugged in You're not paying attention. Then why should anybody listen to you get a new job? Go work at Burger King, man, although they shouldn't have Nazis either there I know I mean we we come onto this show and we're always like we were right

We predicted this would happen and it happened our insight is great and and MAGA always goes on their shows and they're like I'm Flabbergasted by what he's doing. That's the thing is like we're not oracles It's just literally going like hmm. Well, I'm a little clear. Yeah JD Vance, so maybe not that. You know, it's interesting. You just mentioned something, David, that reminded me of this, of like, Elon and Trump just want what the other has. Like, Trump has got his meme coin, so he wants to have Elon type money, and Elon's-

Oh, Elon wants us to be liked. Yes. Well, he wants to be a comedian and be liked and all that stuff. Elon would probably, I don't know, probably not, but Elon would probably be happier with his money doing what we do than doing what he does, which is like rage posting all day

and playing video games and having people at his companies, his six companies not respect him. What if Trump streamed Elden Ring and was really good at it? Oh, that would be amazing. He's like, this is really easy. I don't know. This is extremely easy. Trump streamed Elden Ring and was really good at it This is really easy Things I've heard some people aren't so good. Some people can't do it. I can do it I was very easy for me to do it. Yeah I'm a major level four. I don't know the game

Well folks, I think we've arrived at the end of our program. One last check, is there any more updates on our Twitter feud? Oh yeah, let me do one more thing. Since this, I've gotten multiple texts from my family being like, is Elon and Trump fighting? Yeah, it's gotta be confounding to people who aren't up on this every day and they're not on X,

all of a sudden, like, wait, what happened? They don't like each other? All right. Let's see, Elon tweeted, the Trump tariffs will cause a recession in the second half of this year. You know. Sure.

Should've said that sooner too. And Trump, nope, nothing. I think Trump had like a round table to go to that he cut short so he wasn't taking questions or something. He's working. Like that. He's got a Don Draper this. He's got a, I don't think about you at all. Like he's just got a. Oh yeah. I don't think about you at all. Like he's just got a, I don't want to give Trump tips,

but like he could easily, he can leverage this very easily. It was Ben Collins today who tweeted that today was just the, it was like two photos of the heartbreaking, the worst person you know just made a great point, man. Yeah. Cause like they've both been saying stuff like, yeah, Trump's tariffs will cause a recession. is gonna be horrible. Yeah you're right Elon is like a dimwit scum. Everything is upside down and isn't Elizabeth

Moran and Donald Trump are agreeing with each other on things? I don't know man. I mean Trump has the broken clock thing he always has I think where he'll every now and then I'll go like yeah he's not wrong there you know like he he's just we all know his well he's like, yeah, he's not wrong there. You know, like He he's just we all know his well, he's an asshole because he's no, you know his problem He doesn't actually care. So sometimes He'll look at a problem and just be like well that doesn't really matter because the United States prints the money, right? So like we can't default and then they have to say oh, no, no, no, no no no they they there's loopholes tax loopholes He wants to close and then Republicans are like no sir our whole thing is keeping those and he's okay, whatever like he does

He's got this beautiful child's mind where he like some things that he's never heard of he'll accidentally be right until yeah Someone goes like no no sir our side believes this and then okay that speech where he's like you guys didn't care about trans People until now I guess we care about trans people, But it's just two garbage people hating each other. So naturally, they're going to get garbage on each other. And we're going to like that, that the garbage is on them. Well, folks, we did it. I agree with everything that's been said. I'm so glad I got to spend this hour with the both of you and Cody briefly. And with all of you at home, thanks for watching. Like and subscribe. Ah, what else do I always say?

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