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Episode Date: April 12, 2024

Hi. On today's episode, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan discuss the eclipse, the death of O.J., Trump's view(s) on abortion, Sonia Sotomayor, and Jesse Watters' math skills. Go to https://ground.news/SMN to stay fully informed . Subscribe through our link for as little as $1 a month or get 40% off unlimited access this month only. 0:00 - Intro4:34 - Holidays09:56 - Eclipse15:10 - OJ24:48 - Abortion and Trump47:07 - Sonia Sotomayor54:39 - Jesse Watters1:01:18 - Elon's poker chips Check out our MERCH STORE: https://shop.somemorenews.com   SUBSCRIBE to SOME MORE NEWS: https://tinyurl.com/ybfx89rh   Subscribe to the Even More News and SMN audio podcasts here: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/some-more-news/id1364825229   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ebqegozpFt9hY2WJ7TDiA   Follow us on social media: Twitter:

Hello! Welcome back to Even More News, the first and only news podcast! Wowee! Wowee! Thank you so much for welcoming me. What are you just going gonna copying my words now? I'm supporting your words. I'm encouraging the enthusiasm. Sounds like you said the same thing. Sounds like you said the same thing just a little bit louder and so that, oh, everyone's gonna give Cody the credit for saying wowee.

Sounds like you said the same thing but a little bit louder. A little bit louder now. There we go. Hi. That was a reference to a song. Hi. Thank you thanks so much I'm Cody you're welcome my name we're the news where the news and did you just say the same thing Cody said but a little bit louder but I did it with a laugh and I would always give credit to Cody like look how often I throw myself under the bus by saying,

I didn't write these words. They're Jonathan's words. I'm the opposite of that energy. But I'm not going to pretend like I haven't had people say my same joke just a little bit louder. Neither of you. I don't do that. No, it's when other people do it and I say, I know you're that. You're one of the good ones.

Thanks. You heard it here, folks. Mostly. Wow. Wowee and even. Yeah. People like it when we're spicy, I guess. Holidays! We have them. Nobody's taking those away from us. Jonathan is also here. We love Jonathan. Yeah.

Oh, maybe a We Love Jonathan shirt. I don't know if I... Well, one, it would hurt my ego so much if we made We Love Jonathan shirts and nobody bought them. I'd buy one. That's nice. On the company card. I'd buy one on the company card. You wouldn't pay for it out of your own money.

No. It's not worth it to spend your own money. Well, no, only because I'm not the type to wear a shirt that says, I love Jonathan. Few people are. You have the right to say it, though. Your wife would. My wife would, my mother would.

I mean, look, you have some big fans among people who are married to or gave birth to me, specifically. Yeah. Your child probably would wear one because he has no choice. He can't do anything about it. So has he grown into his warm bow outfit yet? He's grown out of his warm bow outfit. He no longer fits any of the merch. Time for some new merch.

I know I'm stuck buying on my own card. No, no warm bow merch. Well, stop it right now because I met as a gift from the company We should get like we I wonder if there's a way to get like some sort of system We're like we have like there's like a plan like a subscription sort of plan We're like, oh you get this onesie this warm boat onesie But we know it's only gonna last a little while and so you get it like a discount on like the next size That would that's a good idea. I wonder if fourth wall does that. Yeah, I don't know

I really like six months nine months. Well, it just it doesn't stop. It hasn't yet. Yeah, I don't think that that's How it works in any business? Well, you just have to make that each one worse quality than the previous one Right. So like yeah, they get bigger but like they're using the same amount of material So his pretty thin shirt, oh they recycle the newborn onesie into the three-month onesie and thin it out a little bit So you send it back in and then they repurpose it They've repurposed it and brought it back as you know, the 12-month it's he's gonna be staunchly an 18-month Well, you plan ahead you make so you skip 12, right? Okay? Yes, what you gotta get to you stagger them oh This is a good if we ever you know just go into clothes sales specifically this is a real grift

Yeah, but not really cuz the kids need clothes You know and like baby clothes Right there's not as cheap as you'd think considering they're only gonna be worn for a couple of months Yeah, and then slowly thinned out over many months I'm definitely not committing to clothing him and warmbo outfits until he's 18. But we can we can support. Well, again, he has he has no control over that right now. So no, not right now.

Maybe no one ever was. OK, holidays, we have them. That's so true. Friday, April 12th, National Big Wind Day. This is not a holiday. OK, observed each year in the United States on April 12th. National Big Wind Day commemorates the recording of the highest natural wind gust measured on the Earth's surface. On the afternoon of April 12th, 1934, the Mount Washington Observatory recorded winds at 231 miles per hour.

That's a lot of miles per hour. Yeah. You think it's been broken? You think if the climate was, oh, it has. OK, I was going to. Yeah. That means climate change isn't real. In 96, Psycho and Olivia hit Australia. A surface. Astroia. Astroia. Astroia. Astroia. Astroia. Astroia. Australia Stroy Australia Australia Australia Australia Australia

Australia may it sounds like a like a hipster restaurant in Eagle Rock. It does Absolutely what it sounds like I liked my Australia Anyway, they got a 254 mile per hour. Good for them. What a win. What a big win for them. I originally thought it was big win, not big win. Oh, yeah, I see. But no, it was a big win for them. Again, do not think that this needed a holiday.

But here we are talking about it. I mean, every week, right? Yeah, that's part of our contract. That's what they say. Saturday, April 13th. National Make Lunch Count Day. Founded by TGI Fridays. Okay. I guess they feel like if they can convince people to eat lunch out,

then some of them will choose TGI Fridays. That's from Jonathan. There we go. I was waiting for you to... And yet you did not credit the National Day calendar TGI Fridays, that's from Jonathan. There we go. I was waiting for you to. And you did not credit the National Day calendar for writing that bit about National Big Wind Day. No, I guess nobody could see that the National Big Wind Day, their description is put in quotes.

So I knew. But you're putting on your quote voice, but it doesn't always translate. I started talking, imagining it was from the calendar, but then I registered. Okay, so this part's in quotes. According to a recent study commissioned by TGI Fridays, Big Friday industry, the majority of US workers suffer from FOLO, otherwise known as fear of lunching out. Many workers eat lunch at their desk at least twice a week. Sorry, continue.

While one third have lunch at their desk it's not known as that sorry while one-third have lunch at their desk every day of the week don't fear lunching out any longer fuck you TGI Fridays some people just want to get the food in so they can get their work done some people don't want to spend money have you heard of inflation TGI Fridays some people want to sit

at their desk and eat lunch and watch little videos on their computer until it's time to go back to work. Some people don't want to go to TGI Fridays for lunch every day. None of us do, I would imagine. I wouldn't mind going to TGI Fridays. This is an important point. We should go.

Every day? Do you want to actually go real quick? Can we record the rest of this from... Are there any TGI Fridays in LA? There's one close to the airport. That sounds awful. I want to go to the airport too. So let's do it. Well we got to go to the airport so we can go to Chili's to go at the Terminal 5. Exactly. Yeah and then on the way home we'll stop at the In-N-Out by the airport. I miss Chili's. TGI Fridays. I mean I miss 90s Chili's. Yeah. I don't know if you've been recently.

No I haven't. It's not just you used to be youngs chilies. Yeah, I don't know. You've been recently. No, I haven't. It's not just you used to be young. It's worse. Yeah. The decline of the American empire in a restaurant. Have the awesome blossom anymore. They do. But stuff is just not the same. It's like they don't come out on a big like plate, like a big round plate.

It comes in like a little basket. There's he's gone. It's not lively. I remember getting stoned as a senior in high school and going to DJI, no, Chili's with some friends. And we would order the awesome blossom and we'd get a basket of chips and we'd get the salsa, but also the ranch.

And we'd dip everything in. That's what you can get at Friday's or Chili's or whatever. I don't know what we're talking about anymore. I think this is a really important thing to note and it's jonathan noting it they make a big deal about getting away from your desk you know walk away from work to take lunch out but this is a freaking saturday they should have put this on like the second Friday of every April. And it should not be a holiday. Shouldn't be a date.

It falls on to a weekend. Because you know what? I could tell you what you shouldn't do. Just go to TGI Fridays for lunch on a weekend. Probably do that. It's not even Friday. It's Saturday. I might do that this weekend. Just to prove a point. It's going to be more It's Saturday. I might do that this weekend. Just to prove a point.

It's going to be more crowded than you would find on a Wednesday, Cody. We'll see. You don't like people. We'll see. We'll see if I like Saturday at Friday's people. Maybe maybe maybe there's maybe they're my people. I don't know. I'm going to go to the airport. I honestly, my foundational opinion of you has been rocked a bit damn Cuz I because I because I pretended to go to Fridays on a Saturday. Yeah, I cannot believe you did that

Damn. All right. All right We had an eclipse this week Look at it. Did anybody burn their retinas? Mm hmm. I missed it. That you didn't. We were in a meeting together. So I know you didn't. Yeah. Jonathan, you were not in the meeting. Yeah, but I was working. I stepped outside for like a second and then I was like, I don't have a box or I didn't have the materials.

So I did. I did briefly glance up and then said, what am I doing? I couldn't look at the sun. I. But I started like there was something in me that did the head up and I was like said what am I doing? I couldn't look at the Sun night But I started like there was something in me that did the head up and I was like, what are you doing? No, go back inside to the meeting and it was very bright And so I feel like the Sun could be partially obscured all the time. I wouldn't even know I have no idea I mean if you look at the difference between like like 99% obscured and 100% obscured it is To pardon the phrase. It's like night and day Oh yeah, I mean if you look at the difference between like 99% obscured and 100% obscured it is... pardon the phrase, it's like night and day. Just a little bit of sun light getting through is very powerful. The sun is wild.

It's wild. The sun is wild. It's just so bright. I mean yeah, think about a cloudy day. That's not the same at all, but it's still plenty of brightness. You can't see the sun through the clouds. But you can understand why it's like the stuff of conspiracies and the rapture and stuff, because it's like it's the sun.

It's like the one thing we like. It's so far away. We need it. People thought they were going to get raptured. Some people thought they were going to get raptured. I don't know. I had a hard time finding Legitimate people who were gonna be Raptured. There was like one person on Reddit who said they got

Several hundred dollar tips by a woman In the lead up to the eclipse And then after the eclipse she came to Demand the money back You know, who knows if that's true I suspect that is made up Yeah, it sounded a is made up yeah it sounded a little made up to me there's no footage yeah internet traffic dropped by

40 to 60 percent just as a year is where that's great have that means people know experiencing eight minutes that's great though go like turn you turn your shit off go outside and experience and then a fantastic cosmic event. Connect yourself to the cosmos and the spirit of the universe. Yeah, I haven't actually clicked on any of these links, but a lot of there was a lot of hullabaloo the day after. I know, I know, I know better. Never, never click on links. I live online, but I can't click on anything. Like, did you buy your, where did, like if your eclipse viewing glasses are not of the highest quality, they're like, you might have some problems down the line. It's like, the fuck?

Everybody's sharing that the day after. Yeah, searches for My Eyes Hurt shot up in the hours after. But there's a lot of people that bought the janky ones, and they're saying like, that might not have been a good choice. Sorry if you're one of the people that bought a janky ones and they're saying like that might not have been a good choice. Sorry if you're one of the people that bought a janky. Yeah. But I don't know what's that non janky one they all look like paper. I don't know what janky or not is for you know what janky means. Okay, word me I

know the word means I just don't know like different different glasses. I saw some people being like, is it actually worse or not to no protection look at the eclipse as opposed to looking at the sun? And I it's too late now. But yeah, it's worse. Your eyes are gonna look at the sun or the sun when you look at the sun, your eyes will your your pupils will get smaller because there's so much sun coming in. But if the sun isn't shining shining and you look at the eclipse your eyes will dilate because you're trying to get more light in and you're gonna get more of the sun in and isn't the corona brighter at those moments yeah from pretty sure that the edges will be right the edges are gonna yeah so like you're still you're still getting light in but your eyes are you know, kind of tricks to to expand to bring in more light. But you're getting the dangerous light and more.

But I also I don't know. I'm not I'm just rambling. Remember when Donald Trump looked right up at it? I do. We don't need to actually share this clip, but I do feel the need to mention it. Jim Jim Jimmie Brewer, James Brewer, Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim, Jim Jim Jim Jim Jimmie Brewer, Jim Jim Jimmie Jimmie Jimmie Brewer, the comedian, the really big noise guy. He like goes up and like, oh, that's his like whole bit. He shared a bit about the eclipse yesterday. And I think it seems to be an old bit that he's like resharing now. It's unclear like what the date of the original bit is. But the whole thing is like, they're always telling you, you know, we've all seen eclipses and they're always telling you, don't, you know, don't don't look at the sun. And it's like, who's stupid enough to look directly at the sun?

You go outside and look at the eclipse and you're like looking straight and go. And he does this like the stupid, his stupid guy bit where he's like making really loud noise. I'm so sorry for everybody listening, but like that is Fucking accurate right Unpleasant and really unpleasant and like doing his like cross-eyed dumb guy thing about looking at the eclipse And it's just really funny because this guy really really really loves Donald Trump and Jim the answer to question is him He's the guy. He's the dumb guy that looks directly at the eclipse.

And it's just a beautiful thing that you shared. Another guy that maybe looks directly at the, I'm pivoting. Are we pivoting to? Another news story. OJ is dead, y'all. I kind of thought maybe he was already dead, but now he actually is dead.

Yes, that is you died You know what was fun today logging on to Twitter. I Said Twitter, but I met Twitter, but fuck it. Yeah Twitter you see OJ is trending and at least for me OJ is trending and right beneath it RIP legend and I thought that can't possibly be for OJ Oh, it was it definitely was fuck you guys online Fuck you all don't click on links also, not guilty is a now apparently

Pretty now is that is that for OJ or for? Right what happened to Trump today? I don't know but he's something He's got to be not guilty for something today. No, it's all about OJ. Scrolling through a lot of a lot of. So that's unpleasant. I mean, it's pleasant. Whatever. OJ's the murderer is Jonathan,

you can walk us through this thing that you wrote. I want to walk through. I just it's you know, it's kind of. Y'all know OJ. I won't pretend. Not much to walk through. It's kind of... Y'all know OJ? I was like 11 when the Bronco Chase happened and I was 12 when the acquittal happened. So most people my age remember being like in a classroom and I remember the eighth grade math class I was in

did not have a TV, so we listened on the radio. And it's very hard to, you know, the Chili's was better in the 90s, but a lot of like social and racial politics was not. And I feel like there was a major regression in the 90s in terms of relations between white people and black people because there had been the Rodney King case, and then unrest in Los Angeles. And then a few years later, the OJ case happened and it felt like a very, and you can watch, you know, the documentary OJ made in America, which is fantastic. It's this I think it's on Hulu or something. It's really a fantastic

docu series that goes through what was happening in America at the time, because it feels like it really entrenched people into their sides. White people have a side and black people have a side and they're not going to see eye to eye. And I remember, I grew up in a pretty white suburb in Orange County. There were maybe three or four black kids at my school. And this was just a major dividing line because a bunch of people were very excited that O.J. got acquitted, and a bunch of us white kids were like, I don't get it, he's like a murderer, what's the excitement here?

And it's only when you get older and kind of read about and remember a lot of the things that were going on sociopolitically at the time to kind of understand why people would be rooting for this guy to to be acquitted. Totally. And you know, this was like a it's kind of incalculable, the extent to which the OJ trial permeated popular culture. Like every late night show, every sitcom. It was everywhere. And I think this is the heyday of court TV Maybe the what put it on the map. It was on all the time. The trial was on in my house

it was on if not, that is the People discussing it and people were talking about it at school It was everywhere and it's not the birth of the 24-hour news cycle, but it is a big part of it. Yeah, it's a big part of it. It's crystallization. I've heard people do, I think even on You're Wrong About, they talk about, well, they do a lot on OJ Simpson actually. And Nicole Brown Simpson, who always gets kind of overlooked in this conversation, you

know, the dead woman that is dead because of this. But you know, she gets overshadowed by. The OJ of it all. But the first 24 hour news cycle, I believe, was baby Jessica falling into a well in the 80s, and then there were cameras there 24 hours a day until she was removed. But it's addictive, right? This is what I see the resolution to it.

It preys upon all of our human looky loo tendencies. And of course, adding into it the racial element, the fact that he was a huge star. And, you know, I can't speak to the black community, but I know that it's hard when you've got a. A hero figure. You know, in the midst of especially the climate at the time and the climate to this day, you know. So somebody say like was, uh,

he's criminally in heaven, but civilly in hell. So that's pretty good. I saw someone say, well, at least he now knows that his wife's killer is dead. He got the closure. Yeah. The other killers. It's like. I mean, it also kind of shines a light on our justice system and all that stuff and celebrity and money.

I mean, there's way too much to analyze and talk about now, but then also, you know, yeah, there was this big civil judgment against him. He was known as a murderer. He couldn't go into the spaces he used to be able to go to. And then he was in jail for or prison for eight years after our for armed robbery for stealing a bunch of memorabilia. I mean, in 2007, and you've included this in these notes weird stuff Like when he pretended to stab reporter Ruby wax with a banana in 1998 or the book Remember you the book?

It's you can just lean into the bad shit you've done You can just especially these days. Yeah, lean into murder murder you can't I don't think it worked out for buddy He wrote if I did it and it was published I'm just saying that he didn't have a successful career post-murder Hard to have a successful career when everyone knows you're a murderer They didn't make any more naked-gun movies, but he probably would not have been cast He wouldn't have been in those he's he wouldn't he wasn't gonna get a cameo and Liam Neeson's Naked gun movie that they're making he can publish a book about the murder Die in jail so

No, he got sentenced to 33 years and then paroled after nine. Yeah. So, you know, now he's gone. The juice is goose is cooked. All right, well, we're going to take our advertisement break slightly early, just slightly by minutes. Prove it. Hi, kiddo.

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And I've proven that we went to our break slightly early. The reason I did that is because I didn't want to interrupt an important conversation. And that is abortion in Arizona. The hits keep coming and they don't stop coming. Yeah, we really front loaded this with silly stuff. Well, we didn't have somebody to interview, and then we just got silly. I'm not complaining.

Yeah, so. It's going to be back loaded with silly stuff as well. Oh, yeah. I can talk us. Stay tuned. There's more silly stuff. Yeah, Jonathan, set us up, and then we'll interrupt. Yeah, like the podcast. You know the score.

Arizona's Supreme Court this week said that an 1864 law banning nearly all abortions in the state could take effect in a matter of weeks, which would supersede the state's 15-week abortion ban. That law, which was made before Arizona was a state, says that doctors who perform an abortion could get two to five years in prison. This has changed the complexion of this year's election there in a number of ways.

For one, abortion is on the ballot. Voters in Arizona can enshrine reproductive rights into law there, so this is a major motivating factor for Democrats, one would think, as it has been. Now we got Arizona and Florida this year, many elections in the last few years. The Attorney General of the state said she would not enforce the law. Carrie Lake, who you'll remember unsuccessfully ran for governor.

She's a Republican. She's flip flopped on this. She now says the law is out of step with Arizon governor. She's a Republican. She's flip-flopped on this. She now says the law is out of step with Arizonans. She's called on Governor Katie Hobbs to come up with an immediate solution before voters weigh in in November. So it is likely, in fact, even Trump, and we're gonna get to Trump in a minute

of his position on abortion. He was asked about this. He said that the Arizona Supreme Court went too far. And he believes that this law will be walked back, that a solution, a legislative solution will be put into place. By either the voters or by legislation or whatever. I will get to that quote. Yeah, it is obviously. Well, from my perspective, out of step, more morally abhorrent, but out of step with Arizona at a step with the whole fucking country, you dumb dumbs, you

absolute dumb dumbs, and they are freaking out about it, too. Apparently, like completely. But this is like so patently trying to, you know, lure evangelicals, you know, a strict part of their demographic. They already have them like, well, they can't. These are voting for navigate this space effectively because they spent decades and decades chasing this car. And they got rid of overweight and

it's very unpopular. And the solution that they have in mind ebbs and flows so much because they don't really know what to do or how to actually like stick the landing here to mix some metaphors up a little bit. They like, they're just, they're, yeah, they're, they're scrambling. They don't have any sort of consistent messaging on this, because they know that it's an unpopular position that they've staked out with, like, you know, maybe 20% of the of the country. And now they're like, well, we'll do this one's this one's too, this one's too much, and it's bad. But we got to do something

that's also bad to appease these people. And I just don't know if it's tenable position or if they're going to be able to navigate successfully. Yeah, I'm not a democratic politician strategist but I would advise them to talk about nothing else but this stuff. Like hey, you see these weird freaks and see what they were trying to do for 50 years and now they're trying to be like whoa whoa whoa maybe we did that. That seems a little bit... this is not what Americans want. I don't know. Like all that stuff we always said your entire life. It's just so wild to me because, I mean, it just keeps happening.

In these states, which shouldn't be swing states, but you do these wildly unpopular moves and people come out and vote. Now I don't consider Florida will be a swing state in 2024 election, but they also have this on the ballot and it's going to be motivating, you know, to get people out. It's not gonna work in their favor.

Well, it's gonna be interesting to see, because there are a few issues I think that specifically are really out of line with what most people generally agree and depending on the language that's used to explain it, but that's out of step with most people, but like very much like the Republican Party. But like there are a lot of Republicans who are like Trump fans or whatever is like, yeah, I disagree with this. I think this is bad. But Trump's my

guy because this this this or whatever is like, yeah, I disagree with this. I think it's bad. But Trump's my guy because this, this, this or whatever. So it's always just going to be very interesting to see, like, are people going to go out and split that to, you know, that ballot? Like, oh, I'm going to like, obviously, this is my issue that I'm voting like more left leaning or liberal or whatever. But I'm still going to vote for Trump or whomever and how that split will happen in various places or, you know, it will get people to go out and vote for, you know, for abortion rights. And while they're there, they're like, Oh, I also realized that maybe like I should be supporting the party who actually will want to do this because you can vote a certain way. But if you're supporting a party that's completely against that thing you're trying to enact, then that is a conflict that you might think,

oh, maybe they'll still try to take it away. It's hard to know how this is going to shake out. But I don't think that people I don't I think that people care enough about abortion that they will show up for that. I do not know how it'll affect the presidential race. Right, at least that. I mean, I had a big conversation. I've referenced this person.

There's a lovely man up here who's conservative, owns a coffee shop, and he likes to talk to me. He has seen our show and gives his compliments. He is... But he hates Donald Trump. He just also doesn't like Joe Biden. Sure. He hates what they're doing He's Christian, but he hates how they're weaponizing abortion, you know, he's a very reasonable person and

Just flummoxed about like I don't know what to do I don't know who to vote for and I was like you just don't have to vote for either of them But vote for the things that you care about. Yeah, I would be interested to talk to him about the reasons he hates X and doesn't like Y because like that, you know, there is I definitely understand like this sort of conflict there like the like this. I got this, but I got this, but I got this.

But like those are there are ways to reason through that. Like there is a reasonable he voted for Biden. So exactly. That's what I that's sort of what I'm getting at. I was like, well, again. Yeah. Well, what's what's conservative about him? I mean, he's he led with that. Yeah, but he says I'm conservative, but I believe in reproductive rights. Different things.

Like there's lots of stuff. He is pro life for himself, but he doesn't believe that that means that he would ever take that from somebody else So he's a good choice then that would be the pro-choice, but he would never label himself that but well exactly There's a reasonable line through that did not mean to Digress this into a situation where I'm talking about the lovely man that lives up here and has been very I digress this into a situation where I'm talking about the lovely man that lives up here and has been very kind to me. Totally. This is very personal and like I can't, Jonathan and I can't debate this man right now.

No. And you, I, please don't. When you come to visit, I think he's wonderful. He would- No, I don't want to. I'm not, there's this consumption. But wait, I'm just gonna- I don't want to debate people in real life.

That's not my goal in life. I just want to bring this back to the point of like, it's so complicated for people this election that there's so many different variables. Is there something on the ballot that you specifically care enough about that you're going to go out to vote? Maybe that will help Biden. I don't know, but people don't like him. This gentleman's reasons for disliking Biden are almost certainly profoundly different from mine. Right? Yes. Yeah

But he's not pissed about Israel. I don't think yeah if he is if he is does care about fiscal responsibility He should look into The deficits created under Republican president he we spent this morning talking about how he can't stand out people think Donald Trump's a good business. I know I'm being a piece of shit It's fine. Anyway, so speaking on the ballot Donald Trump This is how he is trying to position himself because for months everyone's like what's Trump's position on abortion as if he wasn't president One put a bunch of Supreme Court justices on there to do this one thing. But anyway Yeah, everyone's been he hasn't also paid for plenty of abortions. Obviously.

So we're right. Lifetime member of the- yeah. All right. Yeah. So he's like, he was weighing a 16 week thing. He's like, I like 16 weeks. It's four months. It feels nice and round to me.

But anyway, he puts out this four and a half minute video on Truth Social this week. Feels nice and round like a pregnant lady's belly. Oh, wow. He did. He loves it. So he took credit for ending Roe v Wade. He's like this is you know from a legal standpoint everyone thought the the legality of this was all muddled so we had to get rid of this. And so here's what he and we can only interpret based on what he said. So this is the critical part of what he said in

this video. He said my view is now that we have abortion where everybody wanted it from a legal standpoint. The states will determine by vote or legislation or perhaps both and whatever they decide must be the law of the land, in this case, the law of the state. So some word salad. Yeah. And a bunch of news outlets reported that Trump thinks this should be left to the state than other people pointed out. Well, he didn't say should. He said will and then whatever they will decide must be the law of the land. That doesn't really.

It's describing the situation. It's not describing what he wants to do or what he thinks should happen, really. He did not say he will or will not support, say, a national abortion ban at six or 12 or 15 or 16 weeks if it comes across his desk as president. And so, obviously, his trying to appease everyone did not do that because pro-choice people are clearly not happy with Donald Trump. Wow, you know, big surprise there. And conservatives are very upset with Donald Trump because they're like, why wouldn't you support the thing that we all support?

We thought we were all supporting this. We thought this was the goal. We thought we were doing this. What happened? It's very funny. I mean, it's not funny. It's like a fucking disaster, but it's interesting to see like again, just like that, yeah, Trump just says whatever he's like, I was weighing this, I was weighing

this, you weren't weighing anything. You weren't thinking about this. It's that like, right, he's the only one even like remotely capable of like, doing that dance that toeing the line of like, well, we obviously can't do the thing that we've said, because people hate it, but we need to do something. And so he's just sort of stepping away from it a little bit. And Trump just says things.

He's not particularly shrewd, but he does seem to understand that like this is the thing that could cost him the election, right? If he's the front runner, this issue could sink him, which seems miraculous with all the other stuff. Well, that's why he's like a gift to Republicans and a curse, because he can read that better than them. Or like he doesn't really believe in anything, right? So like he can read that and go like, oh, well, clearly if I want to win, I got to say this. Or like, clearly the people this isn't biting, but he's a wrecking ball.

So he goes and like goes and does the things that they do want Like getting all these fucking justices on the court But when you get down to it, he will try to like maneuver around because he doesn't really have and believes one of his Drinks in hindsight. Hmm strengths said with a huge eye roll is that he Almost always spouts gibberish. That's hard to unpack. And it's actually brilliant in some kind of a way. Brilliant is the wrong word.

I don't believe that this is like you can say, try drinking bleach. And everyone argues whether or not he said bleach. Right. And he'll say the thing, but say it in such a way. And I don't know if that's on purpose or not, just the way he fucking talks. But we now are used to it. And we accept that he will give an answer that's very much up to the individual's interpretation. So one side of people will be like, he said this neither side.

Be like, you're being sensational. He didn't say that at all. And then we can spend months arguing about what he did or didn't say. And meanwhile, he's off being a wrecking ball for something. So he just wiggles around with his word salad. Right. Also, like reads the tea leaves. And so, yeah, and like, you know, also, he's also like, there's a sense there's this idea, like conservatives end up falling in line with like whatever Trump will say and do. Like that's just how it's gonna be.

But also there is this sort of weird, like half, like codependent hostage situation because they're paying for all of his legal fees. Like he needs them in a, to stay out of prison. Trump needs the party, like, the Republican party, to stay out of prison. They need him to, like, win elections, and even though they lost last time.

So it's this sort of weird thing of, like, who's gonna, like, fall in line? Is he gonna, you know, when they get to the convention, is he gonna be like, actually, we're banning it all? Or are they going to be like, OK, do the mealy mouth thing, but we need to make clear our goal is this? You know, it's just a... I think that Donald Trump has a very good chance of winning.

And I think that I've said that before, and nobody will be surprised by that. But I do feel like they can... Both of them have a good chance. It's one or the other. Yeah, it's one or the other. Yeah, it's one of the other very good point. But like, if they just had a reasonable candidate, man, they probably would win. You it's impossible for them to have a reasonable candidate because there's so many contradictions in the party. We've spent so many years talking about this. I know

that. But I'm just like people people But people want a slightly less old person that isn't you know And like in some ways Donald Trump is a gift quote-unquote Because you see says the quiet part out loud and we know what they're yeah, I get it like Mitt Romney would bludgeon Joe Biden and Gavin Newsom would destroy Donald Trump just in terms of like, okay Let's turn all down the temperature and vote for this normal weirdo. We hate them all, but these are the normal versions of the guys we hate. They would just win.

Yeah. I mean, because Trump really has that excitable thing for a quarter of the country, and it is really hard to win over moderates to one side or another, if they're not extremely compelling or have these great ideas. Did you, like, and sometimes you're just like, did you see the clip of Trump at Chick-fil-A yesterday? So he goes, I mean, we could play it, but like, he goes to Chick-fil-A and he orders 30 milkshakes and some chicken for people.

And, you know, all the workers are just standing there, but like he goes to Chick-fil-A and he orders 30 milkshakes and some chicken for people. And, you know, all the workers are just standing there like kind of in stunned silence. Some are smiling, some are not. And they're like, oh, see everyone there loves Donald Trump. It's like, no, you kind of smile because if Donald Trump walked in, you'd be like, what the hell?

The reaction to that clip is wild to me. Like, I've had same reaction. Like I saw all these people like, he really is just like, yo, say what you want But he's so personable and charming He said let's get some milkshakes and chicken and they're not gonna like he like pointed somebody back like you're having a good time That's not like normal conversation. No, not at all charming and then he doesn't know how to talk to people He's like, all right, we're gonna make a lot of money. Are we gonna get rich and right?

No, we're fast food workers. They at food workers like Chick-fil-a do you think they have they get a cut of this you you and your party fight for us to get a lower wage yeah you don't want to raise our minimum like what are you talking about but there are people reacting to this clip like oh they love Trump so much the man of people just because they're not gonna risk getting fired by being like you monster thank you for bringing this up it blew my mind seeing so many people like you gotta hand it to him He's such a because there are also better examples of him being like a schmoozer, you know, yeah odd odd guy I also saw this like and I know we're gonna jump into some weird twitter stuff in a bit

But like the the clip that shared this is from this guy matt wall Wallace, and it says CEO of Twitter. And the post right under that is this guy going alert, Michelle Obama is about to jump in the race against Trump. Take a look at this. What are we doing here? In order to see a clip of the former president talking to a few people, I got to go to who is this? What's going on? He, he, he, he, like, that Matt Wallace guy is so funny because I know who you're talking about. He's just an Elon fanboy who did like a show that was basically dedicated to like, all Elon all the time. I worry we're like losing, like losing sight of the circus that this is. Can you imagine if this election, like the 2016 election was wild enough, can you imagine if this election was happening then? With these same circumstances?

You would think you were in a bizarro world. It's gotten so yeah We were so I think about this a lot like yeah, we are you right remember like seven 2017 or so on A phrase perhaps too often used but like this is not normal Talking about the normalization of like this weird stuff. That was true then. It wasn't normal and it was weird. It was bad to normalize. And now it's all fucking normal.

And it's bad that we think that. It's bad. This is all sort of like washing over us. And we're like, yeah, that old guy. I think that we are desensitized to it to a degree, but I don't know if it's just washing over us because I don't think that anybody's, I don't, the vast majority of people are not,

but I mean, like, I don't think that the vast majority are happy about it. We all acknowledge that it's happening and we are desensitized to a degree. Like, I don't have it in me to react to everything. And like I said earlier, there are elements of like, the way people speak and talk now where it's like. Is that actually what they meant?

They're going to toe the line and we don't know. We just don't know. But everyone's mad and scared all the time and you have to be self-protective and tone it down. I mean, I can't react in the same way to every murder, every mass shooting. I'm heartbroken by it. I'll. But but yeah, it has been normalized to a degree, but it still doesn't feel normal is I guess my point. And I don't think that people want it to stay that way.

But the longer we live entrenched in this, the more normal it is. And the harder it is to extricate ourselves from it. The harder it is for us to go back to some sense of like, it's the way I really value my conversations with the reasonable people up here and why I don't want to throw my coffee shop owner friend under the bus in any capacity. I want to come meet Moka Joe or whatever his name is. I'm sure I would like the guy. Yeah, you would.

But I just mean like I very much appreciate when I get that energy from back and I want to give it in return, like, hey, let's see each other as human beings and talk about this like adults. So we all know it's still a circus. It's just we live here now. Like it's not like 2017 is more like, oh wow, the circus is escaping into the real world. But now it's like, no, we all just sort of like moved in.

We sleep on the floor in the circus and we all know it's weird. It's weird that we live here and it's a weird place and there are all these like clowns everywhere And we know that we have different opinions on how to treat the animals, right? But we think it's normal that we live there like it's become normal that we live in the circus that it is that way but every aspect of it is still fucking weird and um Bad. Yeah, I think if trump has an advantage that he maybe didn't have eight years ago, the advantage he has this go around

is that the clips don't really permeate. It's it's not surprising anymore. So the stuff he's saying at these rallies is worse than what he was saying. Yes, it is years ago. It is worse. It is more violent, more heightened and terrifying. And, you know, maybe CNN is sensitized to that. It really is. It's just not CNN's not covering it because it's not a circus anymore. It's reality. And so, you know, it's just like, okay, poison the blood of our country is like

the tip of the iceberg of like what he's saying. And like, I can't imagine him talking about like, I mean, I guess I can. But like that explicit of like, yeah, immigrants are coming and poisoning the blood of our nation is like. Not something that I don't think. Yeah, I just don't think it would have. Been the same, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, he said some pretty fucked up shit back then. Yep.

I don't know that I just don't think that we, it doesn't take our breath away in the same way that it did before. And you're very well could be correct. I'm not dismissing that it's worse. You are correct. It's definitely worse. But he could have said, you know, he could have said stuff like it was. He just says shit. Yeah. The can of worms is already open. Yeah. seeing that it's worse. You are definitely worse. But you know, he could have said stuff like he was.

He just says shit. Yeah, the can of worms is already open. Yeah, we're like digging in the bottom of the can and it's like all this worm guts. And OK, so bringing this background a little bit. This is a bit of a stretch pivot transition. But speaking of Supreme Court courts and abortions, there's a big conversation happening right now about whether or not Sonia Sotomayor should retire so that we try to avoid an RBG, Ruth Bader Ginsburg situation. I am curious what your guys, what both of your thoughts are on this. I honestly,

it took me a back seeing this conversation and I've heard people say like she definitely should retire. I mean, if she's, if her health is deteriorating, deteriorating in such a capacity where it seems like she might die or have to retire while during a potential Trump presidency, obviously that's awful at this point in time. I think it's probably too late to retire and try to nominate somebody else. But I guess I was taken a back by her health because she's always had diabetes. Like she was nominated to the court with diabetes and clearly does a lot to maintain that she hasn't been on the... I mean, has it been that long compared to other people?

She hasn't been there that long. I don't know. I think she should definitely retire. She should have retired a couple years ago. She's 69 years old. That's around the time when people are expected to retire. If things go south, then Trump is the president. She's going to have to hold on for a lot longer. You know, once you get to 73, 70. But is she struggling right now? I don't think her health matters, really. I think she's a 69 year old Democrat. She could be replaced with a 49 year old Democrat to give us some runway and ensure a 6-3 court for at least a couple more years. To me, there's basically no downside to her doing it.

There's only upside as we get someone who's entrenched in there who agrees with us for a little while longer. I think the only reason she wouldn't do it is, you know, vanity. She wants to stay on there. I respect Sonia Sotomayor. She's one of the best Supreme Court justices we've ever had. I mean, Thomas and Alito are both in their 70s. Roberts is 69. Kagan is 63. Then we've got Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Jackson are in their 50s. got Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Jackson are in their 50s. I guess I just don't find it. I don't know. I find it not super helpful to bring this up in April of 2024. When there's an election going on. It seems like the kind of thing that would take this process and be stretched out. And I know like

there's like, you know, the chance of like, oh, we've got like, there's like, there's a version of the Senate now that like we could, it could be fine. But it know like there's like, you know, the chance of like, oh, we've got like, there's like, there's a version of the Senate now that like we could, it could be fine. But it seems like the kind of thing that like in an election year, it's just going to be stretched out and they'll like the they'll find a way to delay it until after the election. This conversation should have happened in 2020 moving into 2021. It's like the kind of thing that like these kind of conversations

should start way ahead of time. It's like when when like Roe v. Wade was over overturned and like we knew that was going to happen. And then like the month actually happened. It was like, hey, help us out here with the election stuff. It's like there's no like forethought. I mean, with a lot of the strategy, it seems in fairness, the conversation has always been just among

people saying she should retire. There's not a conversation with her or the Supreme Court. I haven't seen much. I but I'm not, so recently in an election year when we know that it can't happen. I don't know if this is supposed to be more incentive for people to vote for Joe Biden to protect the court moving forward, because that feels always true that that we could lose a Supreme Court justice at any time. They're all pretty old. I mean, you know, the problem is, if we are, is it if it's used as a motivator to vote for Joe Biden, the Democrats are not going to or are very unlikely to have the Senate in 2025. So it'll be too late. Even if Joe Biden wins. We don't have time to get a new justice through. I think you could. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what's in the Republicans bag of tricks in the Senate. I think if you get 50 in Kamala, that's it. So I don't

think it's necessarily too late. I agree. I think, you know, it's like you probably should have done it a year or two ago thing where it's like if this is going to happen, do it last year. Talk about it last year. Try to make it happen last year as opposed to this. When like you're saying, like maybe it could like we get somebody squeaking through, but it seems like very, very close. No, right. I agree. It's probably too late right now and

Or if it was going to happen, it probably would have happened It should have it already exactly and I you know for people who are like, well, it's not fair to her I kind of get that like it's not fair. It's not fair that most jobs are not like lifetime appointments Yeah, but this is the system we're working with We saw how we got screwed with Ruth Bader Ginsburg sticking around. Yeah, I don't think I understand. I sympathize with that sort of viewpoint of like, oh, it's not fair.

But also like, who cares? It doesn't matter. Like her job is to protect, you know, like... And she's writing books, she's making money, she'll making money. She'll be OK. I don't think the conversation is unfair at all. I just again was a little bit surprised by the timing of the conversation bubbling up.

And also then I started just looking into why now? OK, so she's she's 69. I thought she was younger than that. I did. But again, she is the health part of it. You know, she's had diabetes her whole life. And there is something to be said about that when you manage it the way that she has. I just did a little bit of digging and I'm not going to speak eloquently on this because I don't know what it's like to live with diabetes, but there are less chances for it to have the, I don't know. I'm not not gonna go through that.

I'm saying that she has managed it her whole life and she had it when she was appointed and we haven't talked about it like this until now. Maybe some people have in circles and I don't think it's unfair. I'm just not sure why, like, because it feels too late. If this had been a conversation two years ago, three years ago, I would be more supportive of it, I guess. I would argue that it was.

Like, I know it's having a little moment this week, but like... I just didn't notice it or it didn't break through my... Yeah, it was always like a possibility. It's just like it seemed like, I don't know. Again, like this is not necessarily even like discourse I'm seeing a whole lot of. So like to me, I'm like, I don't know why we're talking about this that much right now. There's no... it's not gonna happen. Clearly. So like to me, I'm like, I don't know why we're talking about this that much right now. It's not going to happen. Clearly. So like,

but I do have a real problem with our lifetime appointments and that we're constantly having this conversation. To me, part of it is, is that the way we've structured this court, the way we just assume people should have a lifetime appointment to the most influential institution, one of the most if not the most in our country. So that I'm very much here for. And I'm not not here for this. If somebody was to tell me some significant information. But I don't know how we get it through at this point. Maybe one more topic. Yeah, let's end the Supreme Court. How about I play this clip from Jesse Waters on the P.B.D. podcast? Yeah, this is a part of our new segment called I'm going to throw up on Jesse Waters. So let's listen to him talk and find out why.

After he said that. Yeah. If you're making $20 an hour to work at a fast food restaurant Alright, is that is that six figures? Are you making snow? No 50 is just to exit to an out a few zeros. Okay, so 40k year, okay 40k years So and then if your husband or wife is also there you're making a hundred thousand dollars as a fan sure both working at McDonald's That is okay. That 80 grand. That is, OK, that's crazy. That is crazy because that job really doesn't require much.

So it's inflating the entire, you know, labor sector. And the happy meal. And the happy meal. Unhappy, very unhappy. Which I'm very unhappy about. OK, so I will be throwing up on Jesse Waters someday. That is now a new goal of mine. I think everybody should have that goal.

I'd like everybody to start tweeting and hashtagging I'm going to throw up on Jesse Waters. I think that it should be everybody's like on top of your bucket list. If you ever interact with him or you go to his show, if you're in line waiting for something, try to throw up on him. I will be doing the same if I ever do that.

And I will force myself to throw up on him if I can. What a fucking dumb piece of shit. Here's the thing about this guy specifically, but these guys generally, they are millionaires. They are millionaires who do nothing. This guy- Sitting there in front of their microphones. Yeah, I'll be the first.

I don't do. Yeah, we we talk for a living. Our fucking podcast. You do more than that. I know. Thank you very much. We do like a lot of research and I try to know about the topics. I'll just but I don't believe that for him. But like this guy doesn't fucking know anything. And he's promoting this book called Get It Together.

No, you get it together, Jesse. You fucking idiot He wants to make this point about how like actually the McDonald's employees They're asking for too much and he wants to say that they make six figures a year because money is meaningless to him He's a multimillionaire. So he's like well what 20 point works now. That's like six figures. No, it's not actually It's significantly less than that. It's like 40 grand a year. If you work five days a week, every single week, you are working every day, you don't have a day off,

you're not getting any holidays off, it's every single day. Before taxes. Before taxes. And also your shifts are probably getting fucked up. Like, get a job, Jesse, get any real job ever. And you'll know that that is a miserable time. And you're going to have to always be switching shifts. And it's going to be weird.

You have weird sleeping hours. But also he got to that 20k that like, oh, it's actually it's like 40k. So he had to invent a second person for his scenario. He was forced to create a second person so he could get up to that six figure number that he didn't even get to because he can't double 40K and get 80. He had to say a hundred.

And even then he's like, well, they just don't deserve it. They're not, it's like inflates it. You don't do anything, Jesse. You can't- That's not what's inflating anything. It's just he I just have a really it really fucking bothers me when Multi-millionaires are like these people don't deserve fucking anything actually Jesse You millions of dollars you like well, I'm curious what makes him more deserving

Day like you have the easiest job in the world, man. You read a teleprompter, you make up things, you lie for a living. Your job qualification is having no shame, so you can just lie and be stupid all day on camera and not feel bad about it. That's your job. And you're paid too much, Is, I guess, my point. I agree with you completely. So while you've been talking, and I was listening,

but I decided to look up more about Jesse Waters' book that he was promoting. It's called Get It Together, Troubling Tales from the Liberal Fringe, published by HarperCollins. Here's what they say. In Get It Together, the number one New York Times bestselling author and Fox News primetime host takes on woke-ism in a way no one else has. Ah, yeah. Through a series of sometimes very personal interviews with some of the most radical activists in the country,

Waters discovers that these activists may be overlooking the most important change they need to make within themselves. From activists working for climate change salvation, black supremacy, and social justice to a professional cuddler and a trans woman who identifies as a wolf, Waters shows how many well-intentioned Americans

have bought into causes invented and run by people who are illogical, emotional, and ill-informed. It says on the book jacket, their political positions were not primarily from books, teachers, or other activists. They originated in personal drama. Most of these people didn't need legislation. They needed a therapist.

I am going to throw up on Jesse Waters. Maybe we should read that book. Yeah, I think we should read this book. Just like the fucking audacity to be corrected so many times about very simple math and be like, it's easy job. Go get that job, Jesse, go do that job for a day. How do you feel?

How are you gonna feel? He doesn't have the math skills to survive in this job market. Also, he's a fucking sociopath. We'll do an episode about this fucking turd someday, I'm sure. He only has this job and is famous because he made fun of Chinese people

in a segment for Fox News like 10 years ago. He left his wife, I don't know if she's pregnant at the time, at kids, left his wife for his, I believe, assistant or like a like assistant producer or something on his show. And he started that courtship by pretending he fucked up her car. He put something in her car to fuck it up so he could help her with her car and go up to him like, Hey, you got car trouble? I'll take care of that. I forget exactly what he did. That's just literally a thing that...

Manipulation. Yeah, but it's literally a plot from Resident Development where Job, the dumb idiot, does that to manipulate women. I fucking... I'm gonna throw up on this guy so hard. We thought we were ending on a light note

and we are not. We will. No, this is... I can keep this very brief. Okay. There's a lot up top, it's fine. We're having a fun time. This is a good show. It's a good show, we love it. There's a lot of stupid things I saw on the internet yesterday, and we're not going to talk about all of them.

It was just a big day for people who don't understand anything, and I don't know what it was about. I don't know why that day in particular. There's this fascinating story that I just have to share. Thank you so much. I was going to read this to the boot. OK, sorry, go ahead. Is an anecdote from Elon Musk biography. Max Leption was at a friend's bachelor pad hanging out with Musk.

Some people were playing a high stakes game of Texas Holdem. Although Musk was not a card player, he pulled up to the table. There were all these nerds and sharpsters who were good at memorizing cards and calculating odds, Lefshin said. Elon just proceeded to go all in on every hand and lose. Then he would buy more chips and double down. Eventually, after losing many hands, he went all in and won. Then he said, right, fine, I'm done. It would be a themanist's life, avoiding taking chips off the table, keep risking them.

This is so fucking funny and fascinating. And what, again, just to tell us people in the world, aside from the fact that this is a fascinating window into like his mode of operation, like his method of like dealing with life, like just fucking go all into the risk. And then, but it's not actually a risk because you have billions and billions of dollars. So you're going to buy more chips. It's not it's a fake risk. But like lying about, yeah, we're actually

doing a robot taxis. We're going to go to Mars by 2010 or whatever. Just these big swings that always fail. And then he just buys more money. And then he gets himself out of it. But also, I find this so fascinating because what a bad time that he made those people have. They're playing poker. Like I you're playing poker with your friends. And this guy comes in and goes all in on every hand and you know he's going all in on every hand despite what handy has and that if he loses he's just going to buy more chips. That is a miserable gaming experience.

It is no longer a game. It's a little play that he's putting on for you to watch. That means that everybody's babysitting him. And he's only lost a lot of money, but he needed the ego win of went all in and won big. Exactly. I went all in, then I won, and I walked away. It's like this child's idea of a cool guy at a poker game.

And what it actually is is if you are at a casino and this happens to you, either it's a gift to you because you understand this person doesn't know how to fucking play cards and you can get all of his money. Or this guy's ruining your fun time with your friends. I guess a lot of people probably walked away a little richer that night. Probably. Yeah. It's just like maybe that was philanthropy. A professional ruiner of people's good times.

It is just it is 1000% just his MO. Like I don't need to have any sort of like personal like he doesn't do anything well he just keeps throwing money at it yeah it's big and take right what are we gonna say jonathan uh it says eventually after losing many hands he went all in and won did people call or did they all fold because they didn't have anything and he won like the ante. Right. That's probably almost certainly thousands of dollars. Yeah, slightly less dumb. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. All right. I think we've done it.

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