Some More News - Even More News: Elon Musk Is The World's First Trillionaire
Episode Date: June 12, 2026Hi. On today's episode of Even More News, we talk about how Trump escalated and de-escalated AGAIN with Iran, how Elon Musk is going to be the world's first trillionaire, the chaos regarding ...Epstein in the White House, and screwworm.PATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comYOUTUBE MEMBERSHIP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/joinIf you’re 21 or older, go to https://indacloud.co and use code SMN for 30% off the entire month.For a limited time get 40% off your first box PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to https://hungryroot.com/smn and use code: SMNPluto TV. Stream Now. Pay Never.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hi, on today's episode, we talk about the war being on again.
Oh, no, wait, it's off again.
It's off again?
Okay, great.
Plus, we talk about SpaceX's IPO and Elon becoming the world's first trillionaire.
And much more.
Screwworms gross.
Epstein, gross.
Today to you all.
Welcome back to even more news, the first, the only news podcast.
I'm Katie stole that is
Yeah
What a fun rhythm
What a sing-songy introduction
Hello good morrow to you
I am Cody
Top of the day to you codes
Cody I'm so sorry
It's okay
People call you codes
Yeah you never have
But that's okay
I never have but that's not stopping me today
Jonathan
Is also here
Prove it
Hi
There you
tip of the high to you.
We are lost without the holidays up top.
I think you're doing.
I wish I would like to celebrate this week's holiday, which is happy Friday, everyone, at the time of this listening.
Happy Thursday to you both at the time of this recording.
Those counts as holidays.
I'll just put them back in.
It's National Corn on the Cobb Day.
Is it?
Oh, Jonathan.
Jonathan.
Jonathan.
Did I look?
No.
Did I despair?
No, it's say hi day.
Oh my gosh.
It's your big day, Jonathan.
It's your big day, Jonathan.
It's here to get you anything.
Trying to take my thing.
I'm so sorry.
Not everyone knows that.
I coined that word.
I invented that.
I know.
It's a beautiful word.
It's the hottest word.
Not everyone knows it's got an H in it.
Most people just say I.
That they don't know that I.
explained it to them.
Marco,
Marco, did you know it over there?
He didn't know it.
He didn't know.
Small shoes.
He's getting so good at this.
Get them on SNL, folks.
But you still have to do this show.
They've already got a guy who does it way better.
I don't know that he does, to be honest.
I think there's better guys that do it better.
New on SNL this year,
a 43-year-old man.
Jonathan, from Some More News.
People would go crazy for it.
I mean, technically,
it would be plural
a few multiple people
would go nuts over it
Jonathan's mom
Jonathan's wife
yeah we don't go great
Katie and Cody
but part of my problem would be that
you would no longer be here
holding our hand through the news
and that would be difficult and I
might not survive
I mean
it can't be that hard
I mean the hardest part of it would not be
the huge time commitment
and I would still do this,
staying up till 1 a.m.
In New York?
Oh, you think it's only 1 a.m.
In a city where I don't live?
Oh, no, I'm going immediately home.
I'm like in the back when they're thanking the musical guest.
I'm putting on my coat.
Your Irish good-bying during the outro.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Where's G.E. Smith.
Has it been a while since he's here, you know?
Well, while we still have you on payroll,
Do you care to keep us up to date?
What's going on?
Speaking of holding our hand through the news.
Sure.
I mean, I'll do as up to date as we are on Thursday afternoon
because our lead-off story a few hours ago
was the war's back on.
And now I have changed the heading to we're not doing more war,
L-O-L, because he has called it off again.
This morning, prepping for the show, like, okay, we'll see.
We'll see by the time we record what this is looking like and then half hour ago, whatever it was.
We did it, folks.
We solved it.
We've been trading strikes, like going back and forth, lots of bombings.
And I do want to talk about a piece of his interview on Fox and Friends this morning because we dropped, he said, $250 million worth of bombs or billion.
He had some huge number.
of a $250 million worth of bombs that we've dropped on Iran, we've destroyed them.
It's so awful.
We're going to hit them, quote, very hard tonight.
We're going to take Carg Island.
We're going to assume total control of their oil and gas markets, he said.
And then a few hours later, he says, well, based on the fact that we've now got high-level
talks, and there's a deal that's basically been approved that we just got to hammer out the little
details of
I'm going to call off all the bombings
against Iran and the agreement
time and place of the signing will be announced
shortly he said Iran
and Israel have said that no such agreement
exists and they don't know what he's talking about
nobody in fact except Trump seems to know what he
is talking about so
no war for the next few minutes while we record
okay something I'll
I mean, I trust him.
But I did think that we didn't have a war at all ever.
But whatever.
I trust him.
I trust our president.
Did you guys see this floating around?
This is from Marcus Stanley.
Legendary journalist C. Merhersh claims that an administration insider leaked information to him that Trump raised the possibility of using U.S. nuclear weapons in Iran.
And was talked out of it.
Yeah.
It's pretty alarming.
According to this, you know, these.
sources, reports in the room, people being absolutely stunned that a United States president
would actually bring up the idea of using it. Why would they be stunned? He's done that about
hurricanes before. Right, but they mean in a serious way, right, point well taken, but in the
context of what to do with Iran seem to seriously, seriously suggest it. And people, yes,
talked out of it. It is always funny when we get these leaked stories.
though because it always says like AIDS were alarmed that he would bring it up and I guess the people leaking are like seriously I had no idea he was going to do this like okay I'm sure he brings it up all the time I'm sure we would be alarmed at how often he brings it up like why don't we just drop a bunch of nukes on them and then we win the war and then they say second order effects are a thing and I mean thank goodness even the freaks in there are talking him out of this
You kind of don't even want to think about it.
But I bet he brings it up all the time.
Yeah, of course it brings it up all the time.
We've heard reports of him bringing it up privately more than zero times.
So he does it all the time.
I'm sure he said we have the best nuclear or whatever, however he talks about it.
Yeah, it's all about nuclear.
He doesn't seem to mind that the deal doesn't actually ever happen.
He can say we're going to bomb you.
Actually, we got a deal almost done we're not going to,
and that enables him to not really talk about the war
other than how much we destroyed Iran for like two, three weeks.
And so he can get to other stuff, right?
We go through these phases where it's war, war, war, then that goes away,
and then it's like reflecting pool, other renovations he's making around Washington, D.C.
And I prefer to be in those phases, to be honest.
In the talking about what he's doing around Washington, D.C. phases.
Oh, yeah.
That's way nicer when he's comparing the high.
of things to the length of other things.
That's a much more enjoyable experience to make fun of that versus live in existential terror.
But yeah, this is still happening even if they're not talking about it.
And that is a very unsettling reality that we've all become accustomed to.
Like, when he's not making noise, what's going on?
And when he makes noise, it's obviously, I mean, it's either like in conjunction with the markets or it's,
it's, you know, something that all other parties involved are like, I don't know what he's talking about.
He just says stuff. It's not like none of it is, it's all, none of it's real, but obviously it is because
it's real, but he just talks about it in a way that it just doesn't seem like he's involved.
Obviously he is, but it's just, we'll update on screen by tomorrow if this is all.
all different but the same as it always has been.
The problem is he has these dual goals.
There's the one goal of like ending the war and getting a deal,
a deal that Iran will accept that won't make him look bad.
And then regardless of what that deal is,
there's the other goal where people say that he's good on TV.
And that has to be part of it.
And we have reporting from CNN today,
like Trump is furious this week after.
After ordering news strikes, believing that both Tehran and the media did not view the U.S. military action as powerful enough.
He is probably ranting around the White House about, like, why haven't I seen the explosions on TV?
Why aren't you getting the shots of the explosions out there?
That's the goal.
Let's not forget that within the past however many months of this, it has been revealed that actually we did not destroy their military targets.
we barely reduced their military operations at all.
He has to backpedal from that and say,
yeah, yeah, yeah, we did that on purpose.
So we could do it later.
So we could do it later.
No, the point is, is that they lied to him the whole time.
They gave him his little pew, pew, pew, pew, blow him up images
to feed him while it was happening and keep him happy
and obfuscated the reality of the situation, most likely.
And so he is ranting that we didn't do more problem.
like ah. And it's I mean it's also a different time and a yeah prolonged
quagmire operation because he's also used to I think in like 2017 or 2018 there's that
one clip of Brian Williams talking about like the beautiful missiles and the beautiful explosions
and stuff I want to say it was maybe when we were bombing Syria and it's just the
there there was a time when like these brief operations
which were like, which again, he's used to.
Like, oh, we go in, we get, we get mature, we get out of there, like that kind of stuff.
And there's reporting like, oh, my God, the military, we did it.
Mission accomplished.
Look at the beautiful explosions.
But this has been going on for a very, very, very long time.
And we also know that one of the first bombs that blew up, blew up a school.
So there's just not the feverish, like Americanism.
And lust for war is just not.
quite there and not in this not what he's used to and what he's expected from the media and from
the nation generally about conflicts like this and so he's probably like but i'm supposed to be
every night our great war president is what they're supposed to be saying but they're not doing that
what happened what's going on and he would have preferred a nine 11 to happen to allow him to do that
because had a nine 11 happened there would be much more of a rah raw let's blow all these people up
type thing and he would be getting the response that he wants.
We don't have to watch the clip, but he did this Fox and Friends interview this morning.
And he spent like a not insignificant amount of the interview talking about how good the press is
that Iran gets and he gets terrible press no matter what he does.
And he says he talked to Iran and they said, we can't believe.
It's amazing how well we're doing in the papers is something he said.
And the reporter, the Fox and Friends.
The celebrity rags are all over them.
Kilmead and the other hosts are trying to interrupt him going, sir, sir, and then when he's talking about the bad press he gets, they say, don't worry about it. The exact quote is, uh, Kilmead says don't worry about it. And then someone else says, our viewers are watching Fox. So they see this coverage. They're not reading the New York Times. They're trying to convince him like, everyone is talking very nicely about you. Just watch us. Ignore all that stuff. Just watch us. And then you'll hear what you want to hear so you can stop the thing. Look over here, baby. Yeah.
over here, it's okay.
So, we're happy.
It is.
He's just like, he's running around the dog park, and he's the dog failing out of the obedience
course.
It's just like you don't, do you not know?
Like, his brain has been cooked by Fox News for decades and decades.
He was a Fox News slush-brained man talking about Obama's birth certificate on his vlog years
and years ago.
And here he is, and he's like, they're not talking.
Like, do they need to sit him down and be like, sir, this is propaganda.
This is your propaganda network.
This is what you wanted.
This is what we're here for.
Don't worry about it anymore.
Yeah, they're trying to say, like, we've got your back.
In the live interview while he's on the phone ranting and they're fine.
These fucking morons love you.
We're making them love you.
You're on in every nursing home and airport and jiffy lube in the country.
We got you.
Like, you want to do the war?
That's great.
You want to stop the war?
That's also great.
Just pick one.
Just pick one.
Whatever.
We'll do whatever you want.
There's always a reason for the flip-flopping of the rhetoric.
There is a world where maybe they are getting close to a deal.
And maybe this is a whole bunch of last minute exchanging of violence to hammer at home.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Or maybe other things changed his mind.
Other considerations, perhaps.
Perhaps market consideration.
forced him to recant, dial it down just a little bit.
Jonathan, is there any possibility?
Is there what else is going on?
It may not seem that there's a direct connection,
but tomorrow is a big day for Elon and the markets
because SpaceX is having its IPO,
in which it claims to have a valuation of $1.77 trillion
dollars and seeks to raise $75 billion in what would very easily be the largest IPO of all time.
They typically IPOs like this have, so the reporting says, I don't know.
I just repeating what the business people say.
They typically have like 5 to 10 percent retail investors, not like institutional investors.
And they are, SpaceX is seeking 30 percent.
So this is very much like.
This is a big deal.
That is wild.
Hey, my fan boys, you should buy this thing.
And you might say, space X is rockets, right?
And like, yeah, but it's satellites and star length.
And more and more it is AI because SpaceX owns XAI, which owns the website X.
So this is like the Twitter X IPO and Grox IPO and the building data centers in space and putting factories on the moon and people on Mars IPO.
Yeah, it's a Globo Corp.
It's that kind of, yeah.
But it's like a Globo Corp tech that doesn't have a, that isn't profitable yet.
It doesn't do anything.
It doesn't do anything yet.
It blows stuff up and spreads misinformation.
From what I understand, sitting the IPO price at $135 a share, that in and in of itself is pretty wild.
My theory is this is all Elon Musk dropping.
little like tidbits in there to get everybody in a flurry to raise the conversation around the
SpaceX IPO to make it a whole event because all of this is literally just about his ego it is
literally just about how quickly can I become the first trillionaire and that's my theory that's my
theory it was just to create a buzz to create all of us talking about this leading up to this event
that's his entire method of doing things this is an entire operation is just hyping things up and then
getting people, tricking people into giving him money, or tricking people into saying that he's worth
a lot of money.
By the time people see and hear this, he may be the world's first trillionaire, which again
feels ridiculous considering most of his companies don't really do all that much.
Like Tesla does sell cars, but a lot of companies sell cars.
It isn't doing any of the things it's supposed to be doing to justify Tesla being one of the
biggest companies in the world.
It's supposed to everyone to have the robots.
ruined its reputation with its recent product and nobody seems to like them anymore.
I would love for electric vehicles to be more practical for me for my commuting purposes from here to
Los Angeles, but they're not. But Tesla is still the one that people turn to the most for various
reasons. But that's because we don't have access to EVs being made in like, let's say China.
He doesn't even consider them cars, really. He always talks about like it's really more of a
software company because it's all about.
like the little screen, all the stuff going on in the screen.
Oh, like, so the stuff that doesn't work?
Why would you want to convince us it's the software company?
They got Tetris on there, man.
Yeah, you could play Tetris.
Their car makes fart sounds if I wanted to.
But not anymore because that was against the regulation, but whatever.
I guess they're just going to keep doing it and giving Elon money for whatever he does
until there is some sort of crash or huge market correction.
And there just hasn't been yet, even though he hasn't followed.
through on any of the things he's really promised over the last 10 or 15 years, they're like,
well, maybe this time.
I want to read a couple of quotes from actual Johnny Bloomberg's who know what they're talking about.
Morningstar analyst Nicholas Owens says the company, there's no way it's worth $1.77 trillion.
It should probably be worth closer to $780 billion.
And that's assuming that XAI is ultimately worth anything like any of these other AI companies.
So huge assumption.
Right, that's the thing.
Like, so many things that are like, okay, the rockets will explode and maybe eventually they won't explode.
Grock's the worst one of all of them, of all of all the AI out there.
There's is the worst.
GROC seems to know that there hasn't been election fraud at least.
So at least they're all in agreement.
Well, Grog, unfortunately, GROC is woke now.
So it's, of course, going to say that.
I mean, I'd rather, yeah, woke GROC is better than Mecca Hitler.
I'll take whatever I can get.
Got it. Analyst Ed Elson said the company's S-1 filing, which any company wanting to go public have an IPO has to file. The S-1 filing is a train wreck and, quote, unsurious, empty, hallucinatory, and borderline dishonest. I think you could have gotten rid of that borderline. Just say it's honest. And then this was in the New York Times today. Quote, SpaceX has promised that its total addressable market, which is its revenue opportunity if it captured all the demand across its various industries, is the largest
in human history at $28.5 trillion, the figure which depends on SpaceX proving that it can put
AI data centers in space and develop factories on the moon dwarfs China's annual gross domestic
product by more than $8 trillion. So this is just like high fantasy shit. He's like, well,
if ultimately we run the world and we're one of the corporations from alien Earth, then yes,
we will be worth $28.5 trillion. So you should buy, like it's nonsense. We like those companies, yes. We like
companies. We like the sort of global, the dystopian
global companies in our favorite movies.
He is banking on
there being such a one-day frenzy that it will
make him the world's first trillionaire and
potentially enable him to cash out of this shit that's going to
fail. Because every analyst is like, that stock price is coming
down. So even if you want to buy SpaceX stock, just wait until
it crashes and then you can buy it for
way cheaper even if you think he's going to do all that stuff there's not going to be which is not
but even if you think he is so yeah we got a we got a trillionaire no we don't yet no no we're not
doing it we're not doing it we're not doing it just you guys somebody else anybody else everybody
listening to this on friday look i know you have been clamoring clamoring to get your fingers on
some space x stock
Don't do it.
Just wait a bit.
Just wait a bit.
Wait a bit.
Or whatever.
Or just don't ever do it.
Or do what you want.
Do what you want.
I'm not your boss.
I'm not your financial manager.
He's such an obvious like grifter and fraud.
Like this is just Lyle Landley shit.
And he gets away with it all the time and doesn't deliver anything except dank memes, of course.
I don't mean.
I'm sorry.
I will not let this money change me.
I'm still the same down to earth.
I'm just like a 200.
billionaire. I'm not going to change.
I'll still do the dank memes and I will
encourage the riots
the anti-immigrant riots
in other countries. I am still the same racist
you knew growing up.
I would also game. We're gaming.
We're gamers.
Do you even understand how it
works? Just because someone
says it doesn't mean that he's got a trillion
dollars of cash. I'm like, I fucking
know that, you dumb ass.
This is like Mr. Beast going out
there and being like, actually, I have a
I have less money than you do in your bank account.
That's not how money works.
We know that's not how money works.
You're a fucking billionaire.
Shut up, Mr. Beast.
Yeah, you're so rich that you don't need to see the money in the account to buy the stuff.
You're constantly borrow other people's money and use it.
That's, you have it.
And that this is literally just for his ego.
It's literally just so he gets to say that first trillionaire.
And also, he probably thinks it's going to make him happy for any length of time.
Like, that's the fun.
part of this for me is that
tomorrow night he'll be sitting there
alone with a bottle of champagne
should I even pop it I feel
empty I thought I'd finally be happy
but I'm not and then he'll be
online
ranting about the racism and the
he won't be ranting about racism he will be
right right he won't suddenly be like you know I've been
a real racist for the
he's going to be ranting about
the reverse racism
yeah the the white racism
reverse racism what the fuck is that bullshit
of a term.
Also, he's not going to be
waiting with a bottle of champagne, Jonathan,
because, I mean, he doesn't like the taste
or effects of most alcohol,
but there is something quite beautiful
about red wine in a fine glass,
which reminds me of a time
when I remember pour,
I remember some other guy was pouring a glass,
pouring a glass of wine at a friend's house,
and after another mutual friend's wedding,
it was in 2017,
and he's decanting another,
And then he didn't wait.
He didn't want to wait.
So he said, Honey Badger drinks what he wants.
And then the friend made the clutch move ordering pizza at 1 a.m.
I'm so sorry.
I tried so hard to remember that fucking tweet.
No, I'm Googling, find Clutch Move to Order Pizza slash Honey Badger tweet.
So we can shut it on screen.
I'm like just like there's a combination of words there that'll get me there.
It's fine.
It is very funny that he tweeted something very like cringing and embarrassing.
There is something nice about red wine
In a fine glass or whatever
And then this other guy had to be like
That was very embarrassing Elon so but let me
Let me one up you let's take it up a notch
And do the I made the clutch move at one day and he's like quoting things from that night
So that Elon will remember him he knows the honey badger line he remembers it from from years ago
Which was itself back then probably a whole line from yeah
The Honey Badger thing is old
At least five years
The news is intense and it doesn't take a break just because it's June.
Things are so relentless.
How relentless are there?
They're so relentless I'm getting alerts about the president from the Wingstop app.
They're so relentless that my number one most streamed song this year is a podcast with Chuck Todd
and ABC News is Jonathan Carl. One more?
One more.
They're so relentless that I replied to a James Talleyico fundraising text and they unsubscribe from me.
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For example, the news is so sad.
How sad is it?
It's so sad that 60 Minutes is now called 10 minutes and it's just the beginning of Pixar's up.
The news is so sad that RFK Jr. is trying to force it to quit antidepressants and eat raw possum bones. One more?
One more!
The news is so sad that Nate Silver just predicted it would be happy.
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that...
All right, gentlemen, I think
we should move this conversation
right along and
perhaps talk about this
Epstein Files report.
Another report, eh?
Maggie Heyerman, Jonathan Swan
drop.
Good old Maggie. Haven't heard about her in a minute.
New book.
New book.
Of course, she pokes her head up with a new book.
I think it must be that in Trump, too,
he doesn't trust her anymore
because he used to just talk to her and give her all the...
Yeah.
She was a regular character.
But now she's like Maggie Gooberman
or whatever he calls it.
So Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan
have a book coming out.
It is called Regime Change
Inside the Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump.
and a modified excerpt of it appears in the New York Times magazine.
It's called Inside the White House Freak Out Over the Epstein Files.
And it details what a big deal this was inside the White House four months.
They basically turned the situation room into a makeshift headquarters for discussing what to release how when Trump's thing the entire time apparently was don't release anything.
I don't want anything out.
This is awful.
This is a Democrat hoax, though.
Yeah, well, that became later.
He was just like, let's ignore it.
Yeah, don't release it, yeah.
And he did not really understand how much, how important this was in Maga World.
Like, so Cash Patel and Dan Bongino really wanted to release stuff and be strategic and think about how we can do it.
J.D. Vance said, we've got to just get ahead of it.
Complete transparency, put everything out there.
We'll have Tucker Carlson interview Galane Maxwell on his show.
that'll help.
That is
I'm
that is
yeah I know
what a
just like
disgusting group of people
like just
like Vance being like
we'll just have like
a soft little fun
little interview
with we'll have our Nazi friend
interview the sex trafficker
and it'll be that'll solve our prop
what a little freak
yeah
it's like a very
it's very bizarre
that that would be his idea
and it might have just been a
tossed off idea
but someone remembered it enough to like...
Well, you know, that's the kind of thing that really sticks in the mall.
Yeah.
Is that the phrase?
It can be.
It is now.
It is now.
It is now.
Really.
This piece kind of tracks like most of last year and summer and how they dealt with it.
So the whole releasing the binders to Chia Rachech and D.C. Drano and stuff, that was a whole, that was like a Bondi production specifically.
And like, I've got it on my desk.
Here you go.
We're doing this.
But while that was happening, no one else in the White House or.
in Trump's inner circle knew what was in there,
knew what she was doing, apparently.
And then, of course, it came out that all that stuff
was just what people...
Already released stuff.
Yeah.
And was nonsense.
But that was like...
It's the prop administration.
It has been since the beginning.
And it was like the definitely the first big strike
against Pam Bondi.
And another huge thing in here is that before the birthday card
was published in the Wall Street Journal,
you know, they reached out of them for...
comment. Trump knew this was coming out and he called Rupert Murdoch. He called the editor-in-chief of the Wall Street Journal and like yelled at them not to do it.
Wild. He's going to sue, which seems worse than the Biden campaign reaching out to Facebook about the Hunter Biden laptop story, but whatever. Who cares?
I guess who cares? I mean, I do care, but who cares? I mean, why wouldn't he want that fake birthday card to be released? It's just some some fake bullshit.
gun by him. Just put it out there. Um, I really, I, I keep coming back to that birthday card because
it's everything. It's all, it's all, it's everything. It's all we need to see. That's it. That's,
that's it. This seems to confirm maybe it was more real than he let on. Oh, it definitely
confirms that. I just want people to confront the fact that that card is real and explain it.
Explain it. If it's a real thing that he sent him, explain it. It's interesting that J.D. Vance argued
for the complete release
of the files and everything.
Interesting enough.
I don't know how much to read into it
except that I do think he's constantly
trying to position himself and not
sure how to do it
to come out differently, come out
looking differently than Donald Trump.
And it keeps blowing up
in his face and it's not
you're just a clown.
You're his errand boy. But these reports
I'm like, yeah. But this is
interesting. He's the one that argued for the
complete release the files and yet Susie Wiles believes him to be a major conspiracy theorist.
I think those are both interesting things to read between the lines on. I believe that he is a
conspiracy theorist. Susie Wiles at times have been people have tried to portray her as like a
reasonable voice in the room. I don't think she is. I don't think she is a reasonable voice
in any room. Not this room. I mean more maybe of all the people in that particular room.
Yeah, I guess of all the people.
But he's not a conspiracy theorist for wanting to release the files.
No.
I mean, those, yeah, I think those are, those can be, those can be two different, two different
thoughts.
Because, I mean, he definitely is.
And he also, I mean, his brain, he's been cooked by the internet too.
I do.
He's been, he's been groomed by Groyper's online, basically.
And he is in that world.
But he also, like you're saying, he knows that, he knows that, like, people want
to see this sort of stuff.
He probably also knows that some stuff can be sort of.
of sloughed off and not really stick to these people of him and Trump. That's his whole power.
But also to your point, I think there is this sort of constant attempt to not to be like
contrarian and like make himself stand out like in the room, but also create a slight distance
between him and Trump, right? Sure. Like he's like I'm I'm the sin eater, but some of the sins
taste icky, you know, like it's that sort of thing. And also maybe there's a little hope in
his mind where it's like, oh, if he released the files, then he's fucked. Yeah, it'll be so bad he'll
have to resign and then I'm the president. It'll be really bad and then I'm the president, right?
This is kind of what I'm getting at. And so multiple things can be true. Yeah, he is
conspiracy theorist. There is a conspiracy here that we all complainly see. Another fun detail
with Bongino lamenting the fact that he makes so much less money not doing a podcast.
Yeah. I had such a great life as a podcast. I had. I have.
to do this shit.
Laugh out loud.
There's a lot of funny Bonjino stuff in here.
Susie Wiles confronted him about him maybe being the leak of a story about Epstein and
Trump to ABC News.
And he denied this and told Susie Wiles, I'll tell you what.
I'll give you $100,000 cash right now.
I'm not kidding.
Walk out to West Exec, put that reporter on speaker and get him to admit I leaked it, $100,000.
dollars. So he's really
trying to
prove that he's
on board and willing to put
his money where his mouth is put that
on call show. But then he ran out of money
and had to go back to podcasting because it's
so much more lucrative. Yeah.
No, I mean, Patel and Bongino
were in the like, this is super
important to MAGA.
You got yourselves into this mess.
Bondi needs to go because of this.
And it seemed like
they might be right for a few months.
And now it seems like Susie Wiles and Trump were right of just like, say this is a fraud, say this is nothing, and it'll eventually go away.
It'll slowly, yeah.
Kind of did.
It's been almost a year since all this stuff.
Kind of did.
There's just been so much all the time.
But then there was that birthday card, folks.
What about that fucking birthday card, everybody?
I don't know what else you're going to get.
I mean, I know there's a lot of allegations against Trump that are truly disgusting in here, but I don't think we're ever going to get a,
any kind of substantiation of those that's going to match what we know he did in our minds.
Yeah, we know their, like, wonderful secret wherever he said.
When Charlie Kirk was talking about Epstein stuff last summer, they called him and told him to
stop. And then on the show the next day, he goes, I'm tired of talking about this Epstein stuff.
I'm going to trust my friends to handle it. And that was part of their...
Yeah, I do remember that.
That is an interesting little tidbit.
Oh, wait, so he was a propagandist for the government?
Yeah, and Trump called him personally to say, knock it off.
And then he goes, I trust my friends in the government.
And we talked about it, and now it's over.
Okay.
Another little tidbit related to Epstein to transition us into another little story.
Jay Clayton is being nominated to replace Tulsi G.
Gabbard as D&I.
And, you know, this comes after lots of conversation how it's going to be Bill Pulte, who is
going to be the interim DNI.
Part of the reason this switch happened is because everyone was upset about how Bill Pulte
has no experience.
Well, Jay also doesn't have experience, but he did have experience in helping with the Epstein
files, in that he was tasked with going through it and preparing.
what is to be released
and doing the redactions.
So that's fun.
The really well done redactions?
The really well done redactions.
I will point out a few,
because you can still go through those Epstein files,
a lot of stuff is still redacted
that makes no sense to be redacted.
People's names are hidden,
and the only thing that could come of that
is embarrassment for them,
which is specifically in the law.
You can't redact names
just because it might be embarrassing for someone.
And also, a lot of the cases
like the reported, I don't know what they are,
like the court documents have been removed.
So if you search for, say, Nipple in the Epstein files,
and I will clarify why I searched,
I will clarify why I searched the word Nipple in the Epstein files.
A lot of the court cases, the documents that are in there,
you can still search for them and find them,
and then when you click them, you get a 404 page not found.
And I have not seen that widely reported,
and I think they're just taken down.
I think they're just taken down.
You're right.
Now, Jonathan, why did you search the word nipple?
We're all waiting to hear.
Sorry, I didn't want to mean to bring us back to this report.
And this kind of stuff had been out there,
but I guess one of the major things that they discussed, again,
in the situation room, which was not really about, you know what?
Let me back up one second, actually.
When you read this whole thing, the major message you get is,
and we all know this, but the major message you get,
is that there was no real discussion about what would be best in terms of transparency,
what would be best for the victims, what would be best for the Jeffrey Epstein case.
Yeah.
From a just, a criminal justice.
Justice.
What's justice?
These were people from the FBI and from the Department of Justice discussing how to protect
Trump, period.
And we all know that and we knew that.
But that really comes through that like Todd Blanche, his personal attorney who is now now the agent.
interim AG and then the deputy AG.
All these interims.
Yeah.
Like this is all they were talking about.
And one of the main things was someone brought up, well, we can't release everything.
What about that thing with the nipples?
And that is one of the Epstein victims named Sarah Ransom said she knew a girl in Epstein's orbit
named Jen.
And Jen had told Sarah Ransom that she had had sex with Trump and that Trump had a quote
predilection for nipples and had been quite a.
aggressive with hers and that Sarah Ransom apparently looked at them and said they looked
incredibly painful and red and swollen. And someone in the situation room was like, what do we do
about something like this? And apparently a bunch of people in the room did not know about that
story. They were like, what? And they're like, yeah, there's this nipple story in there.
We can't, like, as a, like, we can't just release everything type of thing. And I could no longer
refine some of those reports from Sarah Ransom in the, they might still be there and I was just
not thorough enough, but I think a lot of that stuff has now been taken down. That makes sense.
I mean, that they would do that. I've also, there have been stories over the years of that
predilection as well, with various other people making similar claim, but it does seem like
they are just, yeah, slowly, slowly taking them down. And to your, I mean, to your point of just
sort of like the whole operation was how do we protect Donald Trump specifically and how you
can't redact things just for embarrassment. There's so many quotes over the past like year,
year and a half of him talking about how like it's going to embarrass people. Like we shouldn't,
we don't need to do that either for like so long it was either it's a hoax. So it's whatever.
Or well, I don't want to embarrass my friends. That was like his problem.
with it vocally.
That's what he told Marjorie Taylor Green.
Friends of mine could be hurt by this.
So fucking disgusting all the way.
Yeah, yes.
And I think she this morning said it like trying to cover this up and avoid it just for
avoiding people's personal embarrassment was treasonous.
She used to call Nancy Pelosi treasonous and now she's like, yes, the president.
So as long as someone's doing treasonnently, she's pointing the finger at the right.
Yeah, treason's going on.
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Shall we end with one more disgusting story?
Oh, what?
Screwworm.
Oh.
It's not disgusting.
One, the worms and flies and burrowing.
Yeah, it's gross.
I learned a lot researching this.
Jonathan, set us up, then we'll dig in.
We'll dig in the way the screw worm digs into the flesh of cows.
So it's actually not a worm.
Burrowing.
It's not a worm, it's a fly.
It's like a fly.
Okay, so the screw worm is the larva of the fly, and they're like maggots.
And they burrow into the skin of a mammal, and they cause wounds and infect.
and sometimes death.
And it's very, very bad if this gets into your livestock, which is what has happened.
We haven't had screw worm in this country since like the early 60s.
I think we went through a huge process in the 50s of getting rid of them and then pushed
them further south, south, south, south of Panama even.
And then a few years ago they started creeping back up for various reasons.
You could either believe that it's illegal cattle trafficking and stuff that has
made it come up or Cody, as you may be alluding to, Joe Biden, who did it.
To be clear, that is the claim that the Trump administration is making.
This is all on Biden's shoulders because of illegal immigration and cattle smuggling.
Cattle smuggling is a thing bringing cattle livestock into America, but open borders, I don't.
Yeah, that's silly.
But anyway, now it's coming back.
We've had a few cases in Texas.
some goat, some cows, one in a dog in New Mexico.
And this could be really rough for America's beef industry, which is already going through
some trouble because of drought.
The number of cattle have been lower because of drought.
Beef prices are at an all-time high.
We know that if anything is going to bring down an American president, it is high beef prices.
It is what's for dinner if I'm allowed legally to say that.
I think so.
Where is the beef?
Are we allowed to say that?
Oh, where is it?
Yeah.
No, I think those are both
We're only
We should get paid for saying them, to be honest.
I would say so as well.
It's not like the screw worm coming back
is Trump's fault.
However, there were cuts in Doge
and as part of the dismantling of U.S. aid,
funding was cut for a detection program
that monitored screwworms movement
through Central America.
That was extra.
Those cuts occurred
shortly, quote,
shortly before the United States
lifted restrictions on Mexican cattle imports
that had been imposed
following the November
2024 detection.
So the Biden administration
at the tail end of it
did see this thing kind of happening
and cut off Mexican cattle imports
and then Trump reversed that
and got rid of some of the funding
for detecting it.
There are so many things that you can point to that this administration has done that has absolutely exacerbated the problem and has taken away protections that were in place to try to prevent this, not to say that it would be protected forever.
There is, it is also true that towards the end of the Biden administration, some of the,
the, this program was facing a little bit of a hurdle in that the sterilization program wasn't
quite as effective that there had been some mutations. And so not all of the sterilized flies were,
you know, impregnating the other female flies properly. And so there was some flaws in that. But you know what
you don't do when you're starting to see a problem with the program is cut it. You don't, you don't cut it. You, you don't cut it.
you you double down on the program that has protected us for 70 years or whatever it is 60
years and you fix it. What's interesting is that the screw worm problem used to be more ubiquitous
before we found this solve. And so ranchers were more accustomed to being able to spot it and
treat it. But we have now generations of people that that information is lost. They haven't had to
think about it. So that is a major problem for ranchers right now facing this is how to mitigate it,
how to diagnose it, how to protect the rest of their herds. And I don't know if this is true or not.
It could be just something that people are saying. But if there's one infection, there's a thousand,
apparently.
I don't mean to instill fear in people
about their meat that they are consuming.
Those cattle will not be processed to be sold.
One would presume.
But it...
It's RFK's America.
Yeah, it's just worse.
Everything is slower.
Everything's worse.
It just highlights their entire movement
and ideology and how incredibly flawed it is
because in their minds, you talk to like, I mean, it's like a Dave Rubin type just sort of like, well, yeah, like a regulation is bad.
Once you like unconstrained, then everything will thrive.
You don't need protections for anything.
You don't need regulations for anything.
Well, no, you do because like that's.
This is the point.
It's just like just this whole slash and burn approach to just everything.
Like, oh, that's a regulation.
Well, we're going to get rid of that because that's.
word is bad to us. Oh, that slows down this process. Well, you need to be maximum efficiency,
so we get rid of that process. But then you have all these problems that arise and people die.
Like, it's just so stupid. It's just a stark, a stark example of why this whole approach is
like really, really detrimental to everybody and society.
time with people doging the doja of it all talking about like did you know we've got a program
it's all about like breeding flies yeah why are they making flies sterile that's stupid the sterile fly
thing is kind of cool like the way they do it's really cool it's um marvel of science it's just a precursor
to them making all of us sterile because they want to put the stuff in our water like it's just
that kind of shit it's like no that's a cool method to do that to like
solve this problem that was working
mostly. Using science.
It's really cool.
Same thing with the, like, again,
we've talked about like the Ozempic discovery.
Like all these sort of things like, yeah, you don't
know what you're looking for necessarily.
Sometimes you're like cutting into
a beetle and you're like, oh, cool.
Yeah. And that's why we fund science.
A decade of amazing pop music.
Why, we fund research.
It was in there. That's how America
becomes, I know you're doing a bit.
But seriously, this is,
America is the pinnacle of like the cutting edge of science and technology, this idea that.
Yeah, it's cool.
That that's what we should be proud of as Americans.
That is, that is something to be the hardest country in the world.
That's part of it.
Wanting to be a place where students and other doctors, people with degrees want to come to research and work and live and study.
And you're ruining it left and right.
Again, this contrast between like just like less what?
why do we have like a
a, we're making sterile
flies, we're like studying snails
for no reason? And the guy
who cut it all is like
space is amazing. The future is science.
I'm going to solve all over problems
with my science labs, but
not yours, not the
things that you're doing. It doesn't
make any sense. And then the president's like,
well, we dropped $250 million
worth of bombs over here. And it's like, you know how many
sterile flies we could have released in
Texas for that? There's
There's also, and I have a little bit of mini breaking news before we go, an update on a previous story.
It's so exciting.
But for the screw worm thing, I do.
The war is back on.
Yeah, no, it's bad.
Everything we've said is irrelevant now.
Keep it in.
He's a quadrillionaire, not a trillionaire.
That's like silly.
Oh, okay.
No, so there's this little, not a feud, but there's a disagreement between some local Texas agriculture officials and the federal government, the USDA.
because the USDA wants to release a bunch of sterile flies
to try to get rid of the screw worm population
and put in a bunch of quarantine measures
to try to shut down the spread of it.
And the outgoing Texas Agriculture Commissioner, Sid Miller,
is like, that's a really bad idea
because ranchers are going to be more likely
to not report a screw worm case
and try to get rid of it on their own
if they're going to be quarantined, then they would be to report it.
And I don't know if he's right or wrong in that,
but I do think it's interesting
that these the Texas officials and the federal government officials,
it's all working in synergy.
It's all like, yeah, we're going to own the libs,
and that's what we're all about,
until they actually have to do something
and work together to do government stuff,
and then they, like, hate each other and it falls apart.
Yeah, I do think there is a real potential
that this affects the election coming up, you know?
Maybe, maybe not, but Texas, you got Talafico right there,
baby.
Talafrico, even if he's a vegan, he's not going to want you to be paying $23 for your
burger.
If he promises cheaper burgers, I feel like that's just 90% of the vote right there.
Just because he's a vegan doesn't mean he wants you paying.
Oh, that's good.
Doesn't mean just because I got a better one.
Just because he's a vegan doesn't mean he wants you bagan for me.
Just because he's a vegan doesn't mean he's like Elena Kagan, liberal Supreme
court justice. But they probably align on some stuff.
Tala Frico. All of this is free.
Free, it's all this free go. Just win. Just win.
Tala Rico Suave. And lean into the telephrico. So the real quick, uh, mini breaking news.
Oh, that wasn't the. No, that wasn't it. That was me talking and this is. I was like,
I feel like I read that and you knew the document that you made. Yeah. Yeah. That's not new.
A little bit earlier in the SpaceX IPO story, I said that their goal is a very unusual 30% of, uh, the,
the stock shares going out would be retail investors.
And Elon has already lowered expectations on that and lowered it down to the low 20s range
because of a less than expected enthusiasm potentially about how many people were willing to spend so much money.
It is interesting to come into this expecting enthusiasm at this point in time where even people that do drive your cars feel embarrassed.
about it. Half the Teslas you see have like anti-elon bumper stickers to let you know.
But also just everything that's happening, the state of the economy of people's finances to actually
think that your Twitter population, your little fan boys that follow you on Twitter is enough to pull this off.
And maybe I'll be eating these words in a few days. Maybe. But I mean, it probably gets away with it.
He's lies. He the beef flakes and stuff. But it is funny that like, it's like, so you think
now is the time when like the nation is like looking to like crown the king of money like what do you like
this is not the state of things right now it feels like yeah he's misreading the room and i mean look
yeah even cnbc says the reduced allocation suggests institutional demand for the shares has been
strong as investors compete for access to the hottest IPO in recent years so you know i was like
oh maybe it's because people don't want to buy it and it's embarrassing but cnbc says actually it's good
Black Rock wants more.
They're getting $5 billion at least and maybe more.
So do I trust any of it?
Black Rock wants more.
Elon said, please, Black Rock, buy more.
Oh, yeah, he's just making his calls to his thoughts.
I need reading, whatever.
Reporting, reshmorting.
Purporting, purporting, purg.
Smar, shm, shmars, blah, blah.
I hope he chews and swallows lots of money.
I hope it makes him happy to swallow some money.
I kind of hope he doesn't chew it.
I don't think he needs.
do.
He's got a powerful job.
He doesn't need to chew.
What, just like Garfield eating lasagna where he tosses it in without chewing?
I think he should take a wad of $100 bills and shove it in his mouth and just like
try to take a deep breath through his mouth.
Anything could happen.
He's mastered science.
I think he could do it.
I think I'm saying you should do it because I think it would be cool and he should do it.
And it would be cool.
For lack of a better phrase, choke down.
tens of thousands of dollars worth of cash in one gulp it would be him he could choke on those
down yeah he doesn't have a gag reflex so it's possible I hate okay everybody I neglected to say
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