Some More News - Even More News: Gerrymandering, Chris Cuomo, and ICE's Recruiting Problems

Episode Date: August 8, 2025

Hi. In today's episode, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan dig into the gerrymandering arms race that could determine the future of American elections. They also obsess over Chris Cuomo falling for a bad AI video of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez that is labeled an AI parody on the video. And then they spend a few minutes on ICE's growing desperation for new recruits before closing out the show by breaking down the latest timeline on... ugh... Big Balls.PATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comYOUTUBE MEMBERSHIP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/join#Gerrymander #ChrisCuomo #EvenMoreNewsPluto TV. Stream Now. Pay Never.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Well, hello, and welcome back to even more news, the first and only news podcast. My name is Katie Stoll. Well, hello to you. Welcome to our listeners. Well, wishes to everyone involved. Hello, I'm Cody Johnston. And of course, Jonathan is also here. Hi.

There it is. There's our guy. All right. That was a spicy one? Yeah. Ooh, we got a little high out of there. It was like a little pause, and I wasn't sure he was going to say it. It's like, will he won't he?

He did, folks. He sure did. You in the word high, you're like Ross and Rachel. Like, oh my God, is this? Yeah, will I won't? They got to. But no, but I was on a break from. that word oh we'll do that for a couple seasons friday august eighth national happiness happens

day smile along on august eighth to share in national happiness happens day on this day each year just let it happen you know happiness because happiness happens was that your synopsis jonathan or is that the website no i took it from them i'm not right you know yeah i'm not going to do anything original for National Happiness Happens Day. This is a weird one. National happiness. They're all weird. We're at the beginning of a gerrymandering arms race.

This started with Trump and the Trump administration calling up Texas and saying, hey, you should do some redistricting in the middle of the decade to give us more seats. You can carve things up so we can get five more seats. And then unexpectedly, Democrats from other states, are saying, well, if you do that, we're going to do it to ours. So Gavin Newsom is going to draw a new map to give Democrats five more seats in the House. Voters are going to have to approve it because of something I guess we'll get into. And so now it's just every state. New York wants to do it.

J.D. Vance is going to Indiana to try to convince them to just throw out the rules because who cares about the rules and do the thing that's kind of ruleless anyway, which is the like gerrymandering. of states to give the party in power an advantage. This is, I would say, overall, the concept of it for democracy and like every, like everyone's vote getting a, everyone's vote counting. It's bad, like mattering. It's terrible. It's so bad for that.

Yeah. We've, I mean, we've talked about this before in other contexts. I mean, A, I find it obviously just so funny and also gross and annoying that all. these Republicans are like, um, you invented gerrymandering, actually. And we're only now discovering it. And we're going to do it because you do it all the time. It's just so a historical and weird. But, uh, it is so anti-democratic. It's absurd that it's been going on for so long. And I mean, the hope is that this turns into a situation where everyone's just like, you know what? Never mind. We're not doing this anymore. We're banning it. Although, uh, that was proposed by the previous Congress.

and it was voted down by every single Republican in Congress. So maybe they actually don't care about this at all. It's interesting. There is a world where this works against the people in question, to people in question, whomever is doing the gerrymandering. It doesn't always work out the way you want it to. You can be putting people against each other, splitting up difference in districts in such a way

where two people are now in competition with each other that used to be, you know, colleagues. It's also interesting because demographics change over time. So, you know, five years down the line, 10 years down the line. If there's a big sweep in the midterms for Democrats, this could. Yeah, it could just work not in their favor. But obviously, on its face, it is very anti-democratic. We're essentially trying to break up voting populations and spread them out so that their vote means less because it's buried in a.

red district or a blue district. It's bad both ways, by the way, you know. And then now we're in a position where, yes, it's an arms race where we have to do this just to try to nullify what they're doing. And it's absurd. But we do have to. We do. We have to. I kind of agree. They're like it's ballgame is the argument. Like they're going to entrench themselves in permanent minority rule. If we are hamstrung by our rules in California and New York, York by these independent commissions, and none of the red states are, that's it. They have a permanent house majority. And by the way, the census stuff that Trump is still trying to do that he announced this morning, trying to make sure that undocumented people aren't counted in the

census, which, again, I'm not sure that would be a huge game changer because Texas and Florida have a lot of undocumented people as well as California. But anyway, it's like pushing things to give yourself every even a minute advantage. Apparently the concept of dummy mandering from what I have read is not as much of a concern anymore. That is like that they could cut the districts so thin that a wave election on the other side could end up, you know, winning some of those marginal districts. I guess they think they're so good. The math is so good now that they're not really worried about it unless it's like a D plus eight election, which maybe. every time we think it's going to be one of those it's not this is the one and then there's the

problem of the supreme court which has we have every reason to believe we'll say that what texas is doing is legal and what california is doing is not yeah it's uh not a great situation because it is uh just a on its face undemocratic uh practice that they're going to do no matter what so either you let them and then you lose and lose and lose or you join the fight. It really does suck. We have tried. We would ban it.

But they wouldn't. They don't want to. And so what can you do? They also have this weird thing. They keep posting. I keep seeing people post, like, specifically, like, conservative pundits post, like, you know, the bizarre districts that stretch from, like, fucking El Paso to Austin, like, all the, like, absurd things.

And they're like, look what Democrats did to this district or whatever. And every time, it's like, no, Republicans specifically did that. They gerrymandered that district that you are using as an example. And they seem to want, they seem to frame it like, look at this district that Democrats gerrymandered to give themselves like a plus 14 advantage or something. It's like, that's not the point of gerrymandering. It's not to give yourself yourself plus 14. It's to like whittle away everything so that you have more, you have more seats.

It's not like, well, we have one really, really strong seat. That's not the point to make one really, really strong seat. It's to get a bunch of them. So it's just like this absurd sort of thing. So many, it seems like also so many, again, specifically conservative pundits and Republican governors are just finding out about gerrymandering for the first time ever, as if it is a new practice that we just found out about that also, I assume, was invented by. Barack Hussein Obama, and so we're going to do it back to them. And it's just, it's bizarre. But it's happening. Because every time I think there's no way they can make a logical argument out of this. They just want to try to bend the rules to help themselves. The argument is that Democrats have done it so much first. They point to Illinois, which is a gerrymandered state. But they say since they've been so overrepresenting themselves for years, we have to do this to balance out the scale. scales, right? Because they have the majority in every branch of Congress, but they're, of course, the victims still being outvoted by the woke left. So, uh, Texas lieutenant governor Dan Patrick says on Fox News, we're a red state. We deserve more representation. And like, yep, that's what they believe.

Can't be talking like that. You can't be saying that. Because we're conservative. We should get more than the people who aren't. Like, what are you talking? That's not what it's about. I think maybe every elected official should have just like a basic crash course class, American politics and how the government works and all of these things before taking office. Maybe they wouldn't be so surprised by our system once they are in office.

Yeah. Some of these districts are absolutely. absurd. I think, Jonathan, did you share a map with us the other day? This is a district that runs from San Antonio to Austin, which is like 80 miles or something. It's like a 90-minute drive to get from one end of the district to the other. And this map was presented on Twitter as if like the Democrats drew it to try to give themselves an advantage. But of course, Republicans drew it to cram all of the people from Austin and San Antonio in one place. Like the new map would take Dallas and carve it up into like five or six different areas and then just

pie chart it out into where all the rural people live again exactly it's like they're not like what do you like republicans specifically did this so that you pack all the democrats into the one district and that's an existing district um and this is just again this is one example of so many being passed around like oh my god look what democrats did to get this one seat like that's not what happened so as of now a bunch of in the Texas state legislature have fled the state to attempt to deny quorum to that legislature. They're hiding out in various places around the country being funded by Illinois governor J.B. Pritzker. Greg Abbott has sent state troopers after them, and I think the FBI, Trump's FBI, has now agreed to, like, track them down and bring them back.

You don't run away from the vote just when it's not going to go your way. But it is, again, like the ballgame. Yeah, you'd never, you'd never not be in session for Congress. if you're trying to release like some sort of files about like like like if you had like the president had like a best friend through his life who was a convicted for example sex trafficker hypothetically you know i'm obviously like that's absurd but like if that were to be true then uh there would be like all these like collection of files sort of implicating him in uh those activities and then maybe congress would be like we're not going to we're not going to help

release those we're not going to vote on anything we're out of here about you know Just as a as a as a as a as a instance as like a hypothetical if the president had ever had a friend Imagine you know that can't have been possible. Yeah and in theory if that had happened and if you know the entire GOP had decided to avoid that issue by just going to summer break early for example It would be like that but it's interesting because I it hadn't in that hypothetical I don't hear anybody threatening federal prosecution interesting

anyway that's an ongoing thing that could determine the future of everything over the next not that many months right 15 months yeah there's more elections keep an eye on it there's always more elections allegedly

allegedly allegedly speaking of Congress being out of session AOC took a break from being out of session in Congress to talk about this Sidney-Sweeney controversy and she had some strong language to share about this on the floor of Congress. Let's watch some of this.

This is real footage of real AOC, somehow talking to the house when the house is not in session. I kind of can't believe this, but it is something. Yeah, no, this is wild. And there's like some text on screen here, so like just ignore, like ignore the... Ignore whatever. Don't read. Sidney-Sweeney looks like an Aryan goddess.

And the American Eagle Jeans campaign is blatant Nazi propaganda. I mean, fuck. Watching that sultry little temptress squeeze into a Canadian tuxedo three sizes too small with her bouncy little fun bags on the screen staring at you

piercing through the core of your soul with those ocean blue eyes that could resurrect a furor from his great. in Argentina. Oh, my God. How did she get away with saying these words in front of Congress? I mean, fuck. Why would she talk like that?

I mean, that's, uh... Yeah, why does her voice seem a little disconnected from her mouth? I didn't even notice. I wasn't even looking... No, because the words you're hearing are, like, so startling. You're not even looking at how her mouth is kind of moving freeform around her... It's AI. Now I think about it.

Oh. Oh, is that? I was going to say artificial. It sounds like something she would say. It's artificial intelligence. Okay, but like that's, that's like obvious, right? So no one would fall. Okay, okay.

No one would fall for that. No one would fall for that. No one would fall for it. National TV. Oh, wait. I think national TV is being a little generous for News Nation. Okay, fine. Well, first just on, first just on X the everything. Yeah.

Okay, fine. On a program of some sort. Okay. So, disgraced newsman, Chris Cuomo, brother of disgraced governor Andrew Cuomo saw this video we assume on his Instagram feed so I'm very curious what the rest of his feed looks like and he was I'll just say it furious because I can't believe that this real thing that happened in real life really was said and done by AOC the far left Kami who's going to destroy us in favor of

Hamas so yeah he He posted this fucking video, like a dumb idiot. And I'm going to read what he posted with the video. By the way, when he posted the video on Twitter, like, captions pop up. And, like, the source of the video pops up as well when you post it. And that reads, chat GPT memes plus AI art at meme runner GPT. So, pretty clear. A hint.

If you miss the clonos. dot a.io parody 100% made with AI watermark right above her fucking face then there were other clues as well this is like the most transparent AI

video I've ever seen like up front right it's not even trying to trick you Till can't believe that this happened so he posted this video and he wrote nothing about Hamas or people burning Jews cars but

sweet but Sweeney jeans ad deserve time on floor of Congress what happed to this party fight for small business not for small culture wars I so you first see this and you're like well maybe

maybe he's joking or like maybe he will say that he's joking at least maybe he'd at least like oh this is embarrassing it was a joke I'm just doing satire I think the typo indicates that maybe he was really really mad actually

and it's not a joke He brought up Hamas for some reason. What time a day was it? This was in the evening time. He'd had a glass of a wine or two. Probably a glass of angry wine. But it was before his show. So he's like four hours.

He had time. He had time to go back and forth, realize the mistake, and then write about it. Yeah. This is him prepping for the show. Yes. I also, I'm sorry. Like, he does this all the time. He just takes these.

It's very Bill Mahery in this way. He sort of takes whatever and talks about Hamas. Or like he takes, like, whatever, whatever happens. It's like, the woke is the problem. He just sort of, like, takes words and puts them together to say his, the thing that he really is mad about. You're saying nothing about Hamas or people burning Jews cars is the beginning of the tweet. Then later, fight for small business, not for small culture wars. What small business?

You said Hamas. What are you talking about? Well, there's things you're allowed to talk about on the floor of the house. One, Hamas, two small business. businesses, and Sydney Sweeney is something that no politician should be weighing into. So, like, you know, his heart's in the right place. Except for Donald Trump. He wants to criticize politicians who would get dragged into culture war nonsense, such

as, um, I'm trying to think of Democratic ones specifically. I can't come up with any. Okay. That's okay. There's another party. There's a second party. You can pick the other party. Just talk about the other party.

Yeah. Oh, like, well, that's easy because J.D. Vance has talked about this in the White House, has tweeted about this. It's been on Fox News every day for like a week now. The president. I think media matters did an analysis that they've mentioned, uh, Sydney Sweeney some hundred,

like 700, 800 times in the last week and Epstein 53 or something like that. That's a much easier for them to talk about Sydney Sweeney than Epstein. Um, and then what happens next, however, um, did someone correct him? Did AOC specifically correct him? Yeah.

Oh yeah. Publicly. Just, how, I'm sorry. Just how fucking. embarrassing. Like already this is so shameful that this happened. You're on TV man, you do the news. You didn't

even, we'll get to his excuses. I just, I'm still thinking about it. What did AOC say? AOC replied to him, said, this is a deep fake dude. Please use your critical thinking skills. At this point, you're just reposting Facebook memes and calling it journalism.

Very kind. I will say. She could have gone so much harder on the most embarrassing thing this man's ever done. Like, restraint, congratulations AOC on the restraint you showed, but with this reply. And so Chris Cuomo deletes the original tweet and then posts a new tweet that doesn't like tag AOC and it doesn't quote tweet AOC, but it's definitely like a reply to AOS. This is like how, it's like she posts like a Facebook like status, but it should have been an email or something. And it's like fine for not everyone to know how Twitter works at this point. But you are not that old.

And this is your, this is what you do. That's a fucking job, man. It's your job. So he deletes it, and it's just a standalone tweet saying, you are correct. That was a deep fake, but it really does sound like you. Thank you for correcting. But now to the central claim, show me you calling on Hamas to surrender or addressing the bombing of a car in St. Louis belonging to the IDF American soldier. Dude. It's blowing me away how some people are so, you're so out of touch with how people feel about Israel.

so out of touch with the reality this doesn't land this doesn't land for any of us you are in the the toilet tanking in terms of approval ratings around our involvement in Israel and you're sitting here saying why hasn't she condemned Hamas still what the fuck I looked into this because thank you and he might be doing like a semantic thing because obviously she's condemned Hamas many many times I guess his thing is well you haven't called on Hamas to unilaterally surrender to Israel and I'm you know her position is probably like no we need a ceasefire right like that's just that's not her position but he's like why haven't you done this obvious thing that everyone's doing but I think there's a difference if that's what he's doing if he's just saying why have you not condemned Hamas she's definitely done that you're an idiot yes right I mean I know I'm being flippant with my phrase But it's so weird to me. It's such a bizarre, fabricated outrage.

It's obviously a fake video. You're like, why are you talking about this? Instead of calling for the ceasefire, releasing of the hostages, it's like, what are you talking about, man? This is fucking fake. Because also, like, now to the central claim. Why aren't you doing this? The central claim was that she's talking about Sidney-Sweeney ads in Congress instead of Hamas. So what are you talking about?

Yeah. No, everyone, like, if that, if your tweet was on the SATs and it said, what's the central claim of this tweet, be like, oh, Cuom was upset that she said fun bags on the house floor. I'm talking about instead of what he wants her to talk about. But it's probably the first time that's ever happened. Fun bags on the. And fuck. No, I'm sure. Okay. Let's watch. Real quick, sorry. Before we even start watching, I just, I have to address the text on screen. Developing story. Chris responds to AOC. developing story

you invented this whole cloth this is because of your stupid fucking tweet where you believed a deep fake that had AI on her face developing story I like how the show and news nation are in brackets

like stylistically that's how Sikh yeah all right yeah sick seek okay you're listening I was wrong I was tweeting today and saw a clip

of AOC saying that Sidney-Sweeney ad was racist and so I replied to it and I said, why do you care about this and ignore what matters most? Sorry, pause it. So I saw a fake clip. So I was watching this clip, he says.

And then so I replied to it. No, you didn't. You posted it on your Twitter feed to everybody and asked AOC it's not replying to the Instagram.

Like you didn't like leave a comment. And it's nitpicky. but language is important he's just like trying to weasel out of this anyway AOC tweeted back and said dude that's a deep fake that Sidney Sweeney had

you suck in so many words and she was right they got me AI it was really good and it did seem like something she would say but it wasn't no it wasn't stop it stop it stop it pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause

pause pause pause pause it was bad it was a bad job it didn't look like she was speaking, it didn't sound like her if you listened to it for about five seconds. It said AI parody 100% a centimeter above her face. And she talked like when Howard Stern used to cut up audio books. He's like, I mean, fuck? Like that's not how people talk. Not how people talk. And also like his claim is also like, well, it sounded like something she would say. No, it doesn't. It doesn't at all. You're just, you just have this weird like everything. woke is bad and everything I don't like is woke and it's all the same stuff and it's just like this so out of touch skewed way of looking at anything um everything some random leftist account on twitter says is representative of what everyone in the democratic party does say so they have to be accountable for it and of course that does not apply to the republicans so i thanked aOC for correcting me but i then reminded her she ignored the part of the tweet that mattered okay

Not Sweeney, which really should have never been a thing. Let's be honest. And it wasn't a thing. It wasn't. Popular Democrat in the country, powerful, reportedly ignore what I asked about calling on Hamas to surrender to end the war they started. She has never said that that I could find. Think about that. She also ignored my question about saying nothing about the American IDF soldier who returned home only to have his car firebombed in America by anti-Santis.

semites because you shared a fake clip of her as AI you stupid asshole well it's also not in her district i mean you know it's a lot of times members of congress feel compelled to speak out about acts of violence or acts of violence that you know hate crimes and stuff but i don't think every member of congress releases a statement for every hate crime it's a manufactured outrage in my opinion it i think is the point of like this is this way in to uh put a target on aOC and talk about what he wants to talk about. Well, ask that about anybody, in general, ask that about the media. Why aren't you covering this?

But to pretend like you, like AOC should have, like she really dropped the ball when she didn't mention a story amongst a lot of terrible stories happening is weird framing. It's so embarrassing for him. And he hasn't really admitted to that. And he's pivoted to this weird. thing of like, why aren't you talking about the thing that I want you to talk about? He even says in that clip that, uh, you know, she doesn't, uh, she doesn't condemn him. She doesn't talk about Hamas, at least not all the time.

Okay. That's what do you want her to talk about all the time? He talks about like the number of bills she's introduced. Well, are you going to do that for every member of Congress because she's co-sponsored more bills than a lot of other people in Congress? So what is your point? Um, and his point is, I'm so embarrassed. I shared this obvious AI video, but I'm a journalist.

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Okay, let's talk about ice some more. Yeah, that was fun. Now it's not. Yeah. We just go back and forth. Exactly. And if you keep, you stick out through the fun stuff. I know.

It wasn't even that fun, to be honest. Just annoying. Every time. This podcast sucks. Eh, fucking I hate the shit. Did you enjoy that? God, why are you listening to it? That fun bit was boring as hell.

Oh, my God. It wasn't boring. It's just so frustrating. I know. We had fun. I know. I know what you mean. I know.

I know. Let's talk about ICE. We released an episode about all the lies, ice tells a couple days ago. And they've told a bunch more or. Oh, really? At least they've done a bunch of stuff that's looking not great just this week. It looks like they might be having trouble recruiting people, even with all. this money they've brought in through the OBBBA.

Why are they posting about it constantly? Are they constantly posting begging people to sign up for ICE? Yeah, and offering a lot of different kinds of perks. First of all, the Department of Homeland Security says it is removing its age limits for ICE agents, which Tom Homan didn't seem to know about on Wednesday when he was asked about it. Very strange. Well, he's got a fake job, so why would he know a real answer to a real question?

probationary FEMA employees this week got an email saying they either can join ICE or be fired. So people who signed up to, you know, help people recover from disasters now have to... That's absurd. Yeah. What's...

Yeah, I want to just highlight that for a little later this idea that like, oh yeah, you work at FEMA. Well, surely you can just work at ICE now too. That relationship I think is really, really interesting. How they're trying to frame ice. The CBP is asking retired border patrol agents to come out of retirement.

They're asking former federal attorneys to come back and defend ICE in court. They all received a return to mission letter. All of these people, by the way, if they come back, are eligible for bonuses of at least $10,000 and up to $50,000, depending when a lot of, I think the lawyers got an email on August 3rd or 4th That said, if you sign up again by August 6th, you can get another $10,000. So just like, it's just spinning the wheel on a game show now. And also, no college degree required, which they are promoting heavily on the internet. Just so everyone out there knows you don't have to have a college degree to work for ice.

Yeah, they even respond to you if you ask them on Twitter. They're like, you're like, well, can I join? And if I want to like bust down doors and like fucking get things. get them and they'll respond on their official account like yep no no degree required and then they'll that person will respond back and be like awesome i can't wait to kick down the doors and get them um it's bleak do you need to have graduated high school yeah sorry pretty sure pretty sure you need to have graduated high school but they might make check in in a week you know yeah for the right right person well they also they announced and then they quickly took back an offer of cash

bonuses for ICE agents who are able to secure swift deportations. That is so chilling. Yeah, they sent, it was like added to the list of things that they'd get cash bonuses if you're able to get, like, to deport people really fast. And then after a few hours, they said, no, we're not doing that. And we never were. But it came out like four hours later, the agency, like sent an email following up on the previous email that said, please disregard.

Are we becoming desensitized? how clownish this administration is I mean just the amount of rollbacks walkbacks it's like now oh we're going to rehire all the people we fired ignore that email I sent full of typos they just fucking say whatever they want and then walk it back it's constant

it's every day oh this tariff's happening this is not whatever the mad men sent something that counteracts our stance so now we're changing our stance it's just impossible no disaster relief if you support BDS and then... Oh, wait, never mind.

And then, yeah, no. Three hours later or something like that. But they said later, three hours later, no, no, no, we're not doing that, but we reserve the right to, maybe. Exactly. That's these weird, like, little trial balloon errors. Anything bad might happen to you,

even if it's not actively happening. It's like we're in this, it's like a panopticon, really, where they could get you at any minute for something, but probably not. But we can. They're stretched really thin. They're even recruiting.

Dean Kane, a former Superman actor from the 90s, to be in ICE. This is actually kind of funny because I just saw headlines. Oh, Dean Kane joining ICE. He put a video on X, no, age limits. Where he's like, hey, you guys should know that I'm like a deputy sheriff, volunteer, law enforcement officer and you need to join up with ICE to help blah, blah, blah. He was just trying to encourage people to join ICE, but he wasn't saying that he himself was a part of ICE

but then Fox News saw that video and started reporting Dean Cain's all over ICE and is joining ICE so then he did call them up called up Tom Homan I'm sure they had a really great conversation and then

Dean Kane was on Jesse Waters on Wednesday night saying this is your fault but I'm joining up you know I'm uh I don't think they'll put me in the field or anything but I'll do whatever they need me to do to get the job done Are you in publicity? You'll do anything

they need you to do? It's kind of embarrassing. Can we watch the first, like, 15 seconds of this clip on Jesse Waters? Just to see, like, I do think Waters might be having fun with him a little bit. Man himself. Dean Kane joins me now. All right, so this is kind of a big deal for you in your career. What are you going to be doing at ICE?

Oh, man. Well, let me go back a minute here, Jesse. This is all your fault, by the way. I'll explain why. Because I put out a recruitment video yesterday. I'm actually a deputy sheriff, a sworn deputy sheriff, and a reserve police officer. I wasn't part of ICE. But once I put that out there and you put a little blurb on your show, it went crazy.

So now I've spoken with some officials over at ICE. And I will be sworn in as an ICE agent, ASAP. And just the first part of that clip kind of startled me when Jesse, he may have just not known how he was going to introduce the segment. but he says well this is a big deal for you in your career fascinating that's not nice no it's insulting he's just so smarmy all the time right maybe this is just who he is and he's trying to be nice i mean i think he because of his relationship with certain people on television like jessica tarlov and the uh rapport i guess they have i think he thinks that if he's a piece of shit to anybody it's fun in games and his just mode

He's like, I'm going to kind of insult you and, like, point out that I think you're a stupid idiot or whatever. But, like, it's fun when we do it on our show so I can do it to anybody or something. It's just like his mode, it seems. Yeah. I just found that very, very interesting. Also, that Fox News did that annoying red and blue text on their video that they put online. I didn't like that either. I just, I mentioned the FEMA thing.

And I wanted to highlight something that Dean Kane said on his social. media post, which was not him joining ICE, but him saying that you should join Ice. Hey, everybody. Dean Kane here. And for those who don't know, I am a sworn law enforcement officer as well as being a filmmaker. I felt it was important to join with our first responders to help secure the safety of all Americans, not just talk about it. So I joined up. And referring to ICE as first responders, I think, is really, really disgusting and wrongheaded. And does conflate this sort of like, yeah, if you're a female employer, somebody who's like there to help people, that's what we view as first responders when there's like a disaster or a crisis and people are there to help people right away. You don't, that's not ice.

That's not like people rounding others up and tossing people into vans and deporting them. That's not first responders. And I just found that very interesting and gross. yeah i mean it's a lie well it's just it's yeah it's how they need to frame themselves to justify what they're doing because that would make it so that they're responding to a crisis a disaster emergency a disaster a natural disaster yeah even uh no a FEMA couldn't be further from what ice is and it is bizarre but That's, again, it's semantics.

It's a language game to try. It just seeps into our collective consciousness. You say a talking point enough, then that's what people start to say. And then all of a sudden it becomes true. Invasion, military aged men, all that kind of stuff. But I would say, I would urge people to think about, does it go both ways? Like, okay, so if your FEMA can be taken over ice, can your ICE agents go over to FEMA? Are those ICE agents trained in any sort of an emergency response situation?

You can't tell us a hurricane. That's not who I want to come and help me during a national disaster. Well, it's going to be hard for them to do that from the Hague, you know, we'd have to let them out of the Hague to go. And we're not doing that. I mean, this is what everyone said was going to happen when you gave ice billions more dollars. It's scary because they can get a lot more people and widen their operations. but it's also very, very difficult to increase the staffing of a law enforcement agency and try to uphold any kinds of standards.

So I will imagine that the age and the education is only going to be the first kind of standards to go away. I mean, we're going to have, you know, then it's going to be convictions are okay and gun convictions are okay and drug convictions are okay. Maybe preferred. Oh, yeah. No background checks. No training.

No training. You don't need training anymore. It's scary in terms of like who's going to be joining ICE these days, but it's also going to lead to a ton of corruption because there's a ton of money there and who's doing the vetting, who's bringing everyone in. We talked about this segment they did on the majority report yesterday where Sam Cedar brought up that the cash bonuses are going to entice people in who maybe aren't totally sold on the mission and are either

going to get quickly disillusioned or might start leaking to the press. Not that they're going to go in intending to bring it down from the inside, just that they're unemployed as many more people will be over the next year. They're going to be enticed by the really good pay. You can make a lot of money as an ICE

agent. And it's like three weeks on one off and all you have to do is kind of sell your soul and do some pretty horrible things. We're going to hear some stories about people who are not prepared for what kind of shit. they're expected to do. Yeah, I do agree with you on that.

And Sam, yeah, whether or not someone does, yeah, it's hard to imagine somebody joining just to trying to expose because, yeah, you're going to have to do something pretty horrific and against your values, but I do think you are going to entice people that are just showing up for a job and then be confronted with the reality of what that job is. yeah it's just depressing related I guess to lowering the age for being an ice agent

other folks out there including Janine Piro are calling to lower the age of responsibility to 14 in various cases which I find interesting given that hypothetical relationship we talked about

president of his friend totally hypothetical where he might have had relationships with yeah with people 15 16 year old not 12 though he said not 12 no 12 that's still a child but 14 I think is pretty adult um and this is you know uh I don't know if where it's leading but I have seen more people in Trump's orbit talk about that um which I find a little odd terrifying yes also but that was all uh in relation specifically to this big ball story that I guess we can talk about um my wife is very well read up on the news she knows what's going on she knows

all the cases all the constitutional violations but as i've talked about on the show before occasionally i go up to her and i say would you like to hear me say some words and she goes what what words what are you talking about and i said well it looks like uh big balls was beaten up by a couple of 15 year olds in dc and now the city's going to be federalized by Trump and she's like what and I say you know big balls the doge worker whose grandfather was a murdered KGB agent do I do I have these details right so let me try and go through this really quickly because it's the end of the show did she then go oh yes big balls of doge fame I was going to say did she then walk out of the room

she was just like oh honey and left she's she's like what are you saying to me I don't want to hear these things. I can't hear these things. And I said, I respect that greatly. You want to know the news. You don't want to know this. Shit. This started on Tuesday. Well, it started before this. But the first we heard about it was on Tuesday when Donald Trump sent out this huge truth social post talking about how crime in D.C. is out of control. 14, 15, and 16 year olds are randomly attacking, mugging, maiming, and shooting innocent citizens. He says, if this continues, I'm going to exert my powers and federalize this city, which is obviously the big head. But within this post were a couple of sections where he seemed to be talking about something

else specifically. He says, the most recent victim was beaten mercilessly by local thugs and he says this incredible young man would not have had to go through the horrors of violent crime. But he doesn't specify any, like it's, he shares a photo of a kid who does look beat up sitting on the ground with his shirt off with blood on him. Who is this? What's going on? Nobody seems to know.

within an hour, Elon Musk posts an image of Trump's post and says, a few days ago, a gang of about a dozen young men tried to assault a woman in her car at night in D.C. A Doge team member saw what was happening, ran to defend her, and was severely beaten to the point of concussion, but he saved her. It is time to federalize D.C. Elon and Trump are talking again because they're the only two people who were talking about this thing that happened. I looked while this was going on for local news stories. there was nothing. And you'd think, like, something like that,

the D.C. local news is all over that. Yeah. All over that, right? So within a few hours, we do finally get the details. There's a police report confirming that one of the victims in the event was a 19-year-old former doge worker, Edward Big Balls, Corristine. And what the police report says is that... I didn't realize Big Balls was his official middle name.

Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Well, his official middle name is in quotes as well. So Elon got some details wrong. as he is want to do. According to the police report, Coristine and his girlfriend were standing by a car, their car, they're approached by approximately 10 juveniles

who surround them and say, we're going to take the car. And Corristine apparently pushes his girlfriend into the car to shield her, and then all the suspects come and start beating him up. Okay. So it wasn't him jumping into a random woman's defense about to be assaulted or whatever? No. He

no, that was not happening. Ever He still, according to this, tried to protect her and effectively did, but he did not, he was not a good Samaritan running out of nowhere to stop a woman from being assaulted. While this is happening, cops show up because there are already cops in D.C. And they are already driving around

in the middle of the night stumbling upon things like this that might happen. They intervene. All the kids run away. They get two suspects, a 15-year-old boy and a 15-year-old girl.

What is this gang of kids? Well, listen, and I'm not saying this isn't true or that Koresstein was lying. We really don't know all the details. But it is odd

that 10, teenagers would go up to one car and say, we're carjacking this one car, the 10 of us. Yeah. That's weird. Go with this joyride all 10 of us. Yeah. That's strange. But at any rate, there's some information missing here.

He obviously got beat up. Is that cause for federalizing a city? Well, no, because, as we all know, crime is down. Crime in D.C. is specifically down this year from last year. year and was down last year from the year before. So obviously, this is another situation where one incident is being used to do a whole awful illegal thing. I would say similar to the Lake and Riley Act.

One horrible thing was used to demonize an entire group, and now those people can be a horrible thing that was stopped by the cops. Yes, this is like, right. This incident, it's unclear how a federalized National Guard in the streets kind of force would have broken this up any sooner than the two officers that were going by. But it's their excuse. Judge Janine is in there and she's going to clean up D.C. She just said that about 20 minutes ago. She also was on the news recently, I guess, on her interviewed by. her old boss or whatever um talking about how she when she started her job she's like all the prosecutors are gone there's like this this this office is in disarray uh i'm down like 90 prosecutors or something well doge fired them and you praised them for that you praised them when they fired

all the prosecutors working on the january 6th stuff that's where they went ma'am it's just a whole uh i don't i hate all these people i don't trust them at all they're so far frustrating yeah she said on fox news like if you want a job in the u.s. attorney's office for dc call me it's so it's so you don't need to have a college degree $50,000 signing bonuses if you're retired come on back baby yeah if you're Edward big balls can probably start prosecuting cases pretty soon or join ice which everyone he wants. The world is so

it's so funny that like well we fired everybody in the first six months and so the second six months we'll just beg everybody to come work for us I mean this is and you won't be fired we won't do that again like it is again what I was saying the utter chaos of this administration across

the board oh no we're going to hire back people oh no turns out we need people at the National Weather Service yes man you thought that dude all right guys i think we've done it oh can we show can we show this chart where even though crime has been consistently going down for three decades americans consistently think that crime is on the rise yeah 60% of americans for the last 25 years have thought crime is going up

yeah well facts don't care about your feelings or feelings don't care about your facts how about that i feel based on what people have told me people i don't know and shouldn't dress have told me that I should be very afraid. So I'm going to go with that, and I don't give a fuck about your chart, gentlemen, then. Oh, jeez. I'm afraid of all big cities because the TV told me to be. So mad about my chart. And the president told me to be.

So, and the vice president told me to even be, be afraid of small towns because they're going to eat your pets, folks. Oh, for sure. Oh, we got to crack that open. No one else is talking about that right now. They should bring that back to get away from. Yeah, it's right there. They really should.

Speaking of Epstein, we're done with the show. But like a week ago, Vance was on doing an interview and he was like, yeah, during like break, when I'm not, you know, getting the Army Corps of Engineers to raise the water level of a river so I can have a little big boy birthday party. So I can float down it. When I'm not doing that, I'm really going to look into this alien stuff because that's what I'm really, really interested in. And then yesterday Tulsi Gabbard was also asked about aliens.

She's like, well, we're going to look into it. It's all just stupid distraction stuff. It's so funny. It's so transparent how much they're like, you know what actually is the most important thing? Is the alien question? What do you mean look into it? Like, just type it on the computer that has all the files. I mean, I guess the deep state could have destroyed or hidden all the files.

I guess is that what we're saying? Well, they have another secret room with burn bags with all the alien stuff in. Honestly, you need to find all the secret rooms. Come on. Add it to whatever you're going to charge Obama with. It's got to be his fault, right? Yeah, exactly. This stinks of an Obama cover-up.

Aliens and pet eating. Thanks a lot, Barack Hussein Obama. That secret room burn bag thing didn't really stick, did it? No. But the information that we got from those many burn bags with like one sentence hidden in there that, like, is the smoking gun. They're still trying. They're still trying. We're going to dig into it in the future.

I'd like to on my time off dig into that Great, yeah Okay, whatever you want to do with your time off That aliens, whatever it is you want Taking a vacation, look into the Look into the aliens in the burn bags Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they're still working

They're still working the Obama treason angle And they're so close, they're so close Watch this space Watch this space. All right, speaking of time off This show is over We've arrived at the end of the show.

Now we're going to, someone else is going to go work on it. Nick is going to go work on it. We're going to be done. We're done for now. And you're going to listen to it tomorrow. Which is today. Check it out for you. And lots of like hand movements to make sure it's clear.

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