Some More News - Even More News: Greenland or Iceland? Who Cares!

Episode Date: January 23, 2026

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Hi, on today's episode, we talk about Iceland or Greenland or some other place. Plus, we go through some of the most recent atrocities and violations of civil liberties committed by ICE. Great. Great stuff. Oh, welcome back to even more news. The first, the only news podcast. My name is Katie Stoll.

Totally. Hi, I'm Cody. End of introduction. End of introduction. Not quite. Not so fast. Hold your horses, Cody. Slow down there.

Because we have got a great guest this week. Journalist and author whose work can be seen in places such as the nation. Welcome to Hellworld, The Hill, and Teen Vogue. Very excited to welcome Zach Budrick. Hello, Zach. Hi. Thank you so much for having me. Prilled to meet you virtually.

Everybody can relax. Jonathan is also here. That's true. Hi. There he is. Got through the hardest part of the show, the intros. How about that? Now we get to talk about the news.

All downhill from here. Zach, what we do to start off shows here at even more news is we celebrate whatever holiday it happens to be. And on Friday, January 23rd, it happens to be National Handwriting Day. Nothing problematic on this one, folks. We love it. It's a chance for all to re-explore the purity and power of handwriting. I've been thinking about that recently. I've been trying to get back into cursive and my signature, but mostly just my signature.

Honestly, while we're on these calls, I'm frequently just writing my name. That's good. That's helpful. People are struggling to write sentences nowadays. Right now I've got, this isn't my handwriting, but I was practicing my bubble letters. That's not, nice. Not quite handwriting, but that kind of, that's. Well, it's the handwriting that I utilized.

in high school. Do you remember that I feel like it was like sort of like an early Obama crank thing, this idea that they had stopped teaching the kids cursive so they couldn't read the founding documents and they wouldn't know that we were, uh, we were all supposed to have A or 15s or whatever. Oh, right. I had forgotten about that. Thank you for the reminder. It's true, though. That's the whole point. We're phasing out handwriting so that that's why we're at where we're at. can read founding fathers. When fourth graders used to be taught cursive, the first thing they would do is pick up the constitution of the United States, go right to the Bill of Rights, number two.

That's the one. That's the one. I was a big Ramona Quimby kid, and I just, I have this distinct memory of the chapter about her learning cursive and her loving to draw cues and seeing that the cursive too is like just a big two. And she was like, what the fuck is this? Did Beverly Cleary write that? My goodness.

Or Judy Blue? Beverly Cleary. Zach, okay, correct me if I'm wrong. Are you in D.C. currently? I am, yeah. How are you preparing for this major storm? This is a way where I can chat with you and also talk about a news item that's imminent, which is this big storm coming for you specifically.

Sure. I mean, as best I can, I guess. I got some food. Like my dad was texting me the other day. It was like, do you have a plan? And I was like, not really. Like, what can you do? But just have enough stockpiled?

I think what they're afraid of is mass power outages along with the freezing cold. So, I mean, you know, hopefully this is overblown, right? Hopefully everyone's mad at the meteorologists next week. Okay. Well, what meteorologists, though? Because, like, this is our first, like, big weather thing since the NWS got gutted by a like bunch of 17-year-old catamites. Yeah, gutting, yeah, weather service and FEMA probably not going to be a great combination. Right.

I get frustrated when the conversation becomes, oh, they're hyping it up. They're hyping it up. as if we aren't all acutely aware of how bad things can be. If it isn't as bad as they're worried about, great. No problem. I would much rather sound the alarms so that people are prepared. It doesn't mean go into hysteria and flee if you can't or whatever or just lose sleep inordinately. But like, I don't know.

It just annoys me when people complain about it. that hysterical media. Yeah, like what are the stakes? You got you got extra food for the week? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I hope that it is being overblown or whatever. Yes.

Stay safe, everyone from Texas to Maine, apparently. Oh, yeah, Texas, because someone already got a picture of Ted Cruz on a plane. So it has begun. Leaving. Yeah. He headed to Laguna Beach, and that's about an hour south of L. You know it's potentially serious when you catch Ted Cruz on a plane leaving down.

Let the rain fall down and wake my dream. Honestly. Let it wash away my sanity. That's where Ted's going. It's really funny too because like allegedly his trip was like pre-planned and had nothing to do with it and he's going to return in time. But also I just think it's funny. Like there's nothing for him to do like legislatively.

Like so it's just like, no, you got to stay where you are. You're in the shit with everybody. That's just like the deal. Yeah. And he just thinks it's not the deal every single time. Like, no, I know you think you can't do anything from home and you kind of can't, but you got to be there. And didn't he lean into the one of the Cancun jokes one time?

Oh, yeah. He loves it. He's one of those guys who like tries to lean into the, tries to lean into the joke. But like the jokes people make it his expanse are like really mean-spirited and based on like actual hatred of him. so it just ruins it when he does that. Yeah, when he does the Zodiac Killer stuff. Yeah. I don't think he's ever leaned into my hideous wife.

And that's not other people. That's Trump. That's specifically Trump, exactly. I confess I did laugh one time when there's one of those historians who was like, where were you on this day tweets did one for like the JFK assassination? And she says, does anyone remember what that day was like for them? And Ted Cruz quote tweeted in to be like, only through family lore, which, okay, I laugh. That's good.

That's good. That's good. That's pretty funny. Do you think, I wonder if you wrote it or not. It's funny about like Ted Cruz obviously not really having anything to do, but he can't say that. But like, Trump would if there was a natural disaster and he fled, he'd be like, well, what do you want me to do? You want to be? Oh, for sure.

Make sure the power's on, you know, he would be totally. Yeah, no. It's like, what, is that plane crash? He's like, wait, wait, where do you want me to visit the water? Yeah, it's like, dude. Yeah, he's like, go to the water. Can't be talking like that, man. God, it's so funny when you're removed from the moment sometimes and you repeat what he says. It's hilarious. And terrifying. My mom was not aware of the Trump, Elizabeth Warren, beer catastrophe tweet. And she was saying there is nothing funny about Donald Trump under any circumstances. And I had to explain that. that tweet to her to try to make my case that he can be funny. He can be.

Her husband. He's supposed to be there. He's supposed to be there. Yeah. He's like, you're home. He's supposed to be there. Speaking of Trump and the things he says and the hilarious mess that we live in. He's been on a really wild journey this week because he gave multiple lengthy speeches slash press conferences where there were many clips and highlights of horrendous.

ridiculous things he said. In terms of international relations, he announced a, quote, framework of a future deal, which he later called a concept of a deal. He loves concepts of plans and deals with NATO countries, with respect to Greenland. So there will be, so he says now, as of Thursday afternoon when we're recording, no tariffs going on Denmark and other countries, no military action. And then the details of the details of the deal. are pretty vague. Pretty much a concept of a deal. A deal of ownership, a deal?

Well, it's a little bit complex, but we'll explain it down the line. But the Secretary General of NATO and I and some other people were talking, and it's a kind of a deal that I wanted to be able to. Where does Denmark, did they weigh in on what they want, what they would agree to? Well, I assume they did because he very much represents. He's a strong leader, Mark, you know, Mark, Wuta. and he I assume he's been speaking to them he's been speaking to all of them

are mineral rights involved is ownership involved did the Golden Dome I don't want to say I don't want to say yet but mostly stuff that I thought we already had we already had

and I know much has been said about this perhaps there's something to be revealed that's different but it sounds shockingly exactly the same as what already exists

Well, he's, I mean, but he made the deal. His name's on it now. One of those things that I think initially occurred to me as a joke, but I'm starting to believe it, is that somebody talked him down by saying that he could count this as a war he stopped. I can't. I mean, that's so funny. We're up to nine. The thing that's tough about this man. Nine wars plus.

Yeah, all the lies out of his mouth. That's one thing. That's tough. it's really hard to know how to cover the words that come out of his mouth. And it's really hard to know how to talk about it because he's out of his damn mind. It's a joke. It's not a joke. And then if you get upset about something that doesn't happen, he was always joking, except then he's not.

And if somebody hadn't talked him down, if somebody hadn't gotten his ear, who's to say what the next? Who's to say what tomorrow will bring? I know I think, I don't know if it gets cut, but I bring up that John Mullaney bit a lot because it's always in my head from his first term. This is the horse in a hospital. It's just chaos. You never know what's going to happen.

And then he's all of a sudden tweeting with his hooves. That's what it constantly feels like to me. I don't know if he's going to run into the NICU and eat a baby. I don't know. All it takes is him like seeing a poll that says actually like a decent amount of people. people think that you should take Greenland and then he'll change his mind again. Yeah, the idea that this was the happy ending.

It's like, you know, good news, everybody. It may have looked like we were this unstable, uh, dying empire committing hegemonic suicide and lashing out of everybody. But good news. The one guy who determines that changed his mind. About this one thing. We try here on the show to not make it like a, just an orange man badathon because like that's everything and everywhere.

but the list of these things that he has said, not just like lies or being incorrect, but generally, like, there's something seriously wrong and getting worse with this man. Yes. Referring to the entire Somali American community is a very low IQ people who don't even have a country. Very low IQ people, they don't do it.

Other people work it out, and they get them money, and they go out and buy Mercedes-Benzuela. And they come from here. They have no money. They never had money. They never had a life. They never had a government. They never had a country.

Because there's basically no country. Somalia is not even a country. Like just straight up gutter racism, disparaging an entire ethnic group. And to be clear, he's saying this at the World Economic Forum in Davos. Well, he's, I'm pretty sure he said that one at the White House. Oh, he said that one at the White House.

I'm sorry. In the comfort of his own at home, Katie. Okay, never mind. He felt safe. It's still bad. They've apparently officially arrived in Maine, too. So, like, we have breezed past the pretext that was, uh, whatever, like, 20-year-old dipshit, uh, proving that there was mass criminality in Minnesota.

And now it's just like, we will send ice if you have a large Somali population. That's just, that, that's all we need now. And then, uh, I would love to talk. briefly about this Greenland-Icelan mix-up, because in his Davos speech, he referred to Greenland specifically as Iceland. I don't know that they'd be there for us. They're not there for us on Iceland, that I can tell you. I mean, our stock market took the first dip yesterday because of Iceland.

So Iceland's already cost us a lot of money. But that dip is peanuts compared to what it's gone up. And then, obviously, everyone said, hey, you refer to. to Greenland as Iceland, and in a previous administration, maybe even the first Trump administration, the press secretary would have said, oh, he misspoke. The president misspoke. He meant to say Greenland and he said Iceland, big deal. But press secretary Carolyn Levitt did not do that. She said he didn't do that and that he referred to Greenland as a piece of ice, which is... That would have been bad too. That's also stupid. It would have been bad to.

You have to talk about it. You have to call it out. But it's just, yeah, we're all losing our minds. Being gaslit every day, lied to every day when we could see proof. Why lie about it? Why bother? It's a flex. There's a Chinese expression calling a horse a stag. I think it is. Maybe it's calling a stag a horse. But the point is, like supposedly there was a eunuch who was trying to consolidate. power within the court and he brought in he brought in a horse as a gift to the emperor and he said hey I got this a cool new stag for you and

he like took note of everybody he refused to pretend it was a stag and ended up having them arrested yeah power move I can say whatever and then have that be bad by itself

but then lie about it and get away with both you're right like you can't You certainly wouldn't admit a lie, but you can't even admit a mistake or a flub. We're on a podcast and we say the wrong word or the wrong thing all the time. Stephen A. Smith said Charlie Kirk instead of wide receiver Christian Kirk a few weeks ago. And he's like, oh, sorry, obviously I meant Christian Kirk. It's just we live in the Tim Robinson sketch with him trying to open the door the wrong way and just literally wrenching it. off its hinges rather than admit that it doesn't open both ways.

Oops. Just say oops. What are the things as Trump said? He said, we're building steel plants all over the country, which were not, and that China has no wind farms, which they do. Which it does, yeah. Sorry, he said, like, you know, they build the wind farms and they sell them to stupid people. They don't have wind farms of their own.

And then, like, later in the paragraph, he's like, and if they have them, they're just for show. They're not actually using them. So he's such a... So he's covering his bases. Okay. Yeah, he needs to be wrong in all kinds of ways. The fool's wind farm.

Exactly. But also, like, he's, it's one of the things, like, if you really believe that, wouldn't you be trying to push everybody to make a bunch of, like, wind farms and wind turbines to sell them to suckers? Like, you think that they're useless and bad, but also, like, China's really, like, screwing everybody by selling this garbage. You love selling garbage. You should do that. You should get into the wind farm business.

You would make it killing. Sometimes his hyper fixation, one hyper fixation wins out over another, and it's sort of hard to determine how that works. Like, obviously he's like slashed and burned all the renewable energy incentives that Biden put in place. But he's also like very preoccupied with the rare earth and critical minerals, which are predominantly for electric vehicle. batteries and I think it's just because he hears rare earths and thinks they're like diamonds or something. Absolutely. He's like, yeah, there's gold in there. It's got to be shiny, right?

He thinks it's gold. Yeah. Yeah. But then he says like he's like rare earths, but they're not particularly rare. Like he wants to specify there's a lot of them and we, there are. We can't get anything past me. We're drilling through the ice for them. I particularly like this wild story about the mental institution next to the base.

ball darn. Yeah, he, I don't think we're going to play it because it's a little bit lengthy, but essentially he reminisced about when he played Little League in Queens at a park, there was a big mental institution next to the park, and it was big and foreboding, but then he remembers he likes them. And so he was like, oh, but that's good, actually. And the Democrats tore all of them down, and that's why, you know, you're all being terrorized.

So not even to get into the disparaging of anyone with mental illness. Like that's so far like, yes, but that's so far from how he's wandered off to off this is because right, he was just like having a real rosebud moment.

And when he got home from the and when you got home from the game there on the car door handle was a hook. Yeah. And then his mom said he could be a professional baseball player. This goes on and on and on. He said he was quite the little league player.

Quite the little league player. Anyway, these speeches brought up some 25th Amendment talk, but like, whatever. Yeah, we just move on. Yeah, we love to float that around. Sometimes you need a dictator. That was a hit. Yeah, so just a Global's international embarrassment.

It's so like, I'm glad we didn't play some of these clips because it is really, really, really, he's not doing great. And he's ever been doing great, but it's really, really bad. And he just rambles and rants. And we're all supposed to be like, yeah, you got so many clothes, man. This is awesome. We're normal now.

He really doesn't seem well. The Bruce is on his other hand now. That's interesting. He's got gray scales. Yeah. He's got gray scale. I was pulling up a old clip of him talking about Greenland. I was like, when did this whole thing start?

And it turns out there was a. a brief thing in 2019 where it got reported that there was some brief conversation of like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe we could buy Greenland. And then he was asked about it. And he was like, yeah, I'm going to Denmark. We're going to, like, that's not top of the list. I'm not, it's not a big deal. But then it got reported that when the prime minister of Denmark said, Greenland is not for sale, like Greenland belongs to Greenland. That upset him. And then he canceled the trip to Denmark. and then it became a thing. Like, until he was told he couldn't have it, he didn't care about having it.

And it's not like we should stop telling, we should keep telling him he can't have things, but I do wish reporters would stop putting things in his head because that was, I mean, this era is still going on where reporters will be like, are you planning to do the insurrection act? Are you planning to shoot a bunch of protesters, right? Did he bring up seeking a third term unprompted or was that one of those? That's a good question. They do that a lot. That keeps getting asked.

And he will even say, you guys keep asking this question. He like, according to all the reporting, he seems to understand that that's very unlikely to happen, that there really is no easy mechanism for it. In January 2029, his second term will end and he will cease being president. and I think he'll be like, all right, I can just, I can pretend to be the president at Maralago for the until I die, you know. And also I can still, I can like still just whip votes and get death threats sent to congressional Republicans and shit. Oh yeah, he'll still be doing rallies probably. Like, he's still going to do all the stuff.

Post-presidential power is probably enticing to him if he's alive. No, he's too much he focused on getting into heaven to, think about a third term right now. I will say 18 months from now, his tune may very, very well change. And he'll be like, actually, I'm going to be a president. We're going to do everything. Oh, as he gets closer for sure. I mean, I still think that even like as we close to the midterms, he'll start saying some

things that are, you know. I think a diligence and a responsibility that the media needs to assume about being very cautious on what they ask because they want the headline. They want the clip. They want something that makes its way around online and brings traffic to their site or whatever. And it's incredibly irresponsible. Because they also do know that he's a last person in the room guy. Where it's like, oh, I just heard that.

And that's my state of mind right now. And they know that that's how he operates. So the fact that they kind of do it to him is pretty irresponsible. Speaking of irresponsible. The ice siege of Minneapolis continues as you brought up, Zach. They're headed to Maine now to try and make that a big surge. They, I tried tracking them and we don't have to read them all. I made a bullet list of about 15 different ways they're violating people's civil liberties

and breaking the law in ways that they continue to say that they're not. Interestingly, real quickly bringing it back to Trump, Trump this week acknowledged, ICE will make mistakes, ICE is going to be rough with some people because they're dealing with rough people. he says things that officially Vance and Christy Knoem and like the only only just like an hour ago

Vance said something similar at his little PR junket in probably not Minneapolis probably some the excerpt of it but it's yeah so that they that they really have made him

the sin eater of this whole thing if they've got him acknowledging that too I saw one story about this and one local police officer who said this and look certainly is a concern absolutely the first thing we have to figure out is whether it happened or not and then if it happened whether there is a good explanation or a bad explanation of course if somebody violated the law if somebody racially profiled if somebody violated the rights of one of our fellow citizens that is something we will take very

seriously what what I also would say is that many of the most viral stories of the past couple of weeks have turned out to be at best partially true so we want to try people based on reality, based on the truth, based on context. We're not going to prejudge people just because of viral social media story that turned out to be half false. He denied the story that the police chief said that their own officers were being racially profiled. He said any U.S. citizens detained by ICE were probably assaulting the agents. He's trying to put a real nice face on things. And it's just terrible timing because yesterday, I think we all saw the photo of the five-year-old who was taken and that just kind of took my breath away.

I don't know how we come back from that of kidnapping a five-year-old and then using them as bait to arrest their family. And saying it's normal and good and fine. And saying it's normal and good. There's so many stories. I mean, you could spend an hour talking about all the different stories that are trickling out now about what's happening, which is only a fraction of what's actually happening. When you talk to people on the ground in Minneapolis, especially, it's chaos.

It sounds like absolute chaos. It's interesting because when you hear the details of the story, obviously not from ICE or DHS, just from a bunch of witnesses and the people who are detained when they get released. There's no way they can argue that they're not racially profiling. They stop what looks like an 11-year-old Latino kid walking down the street. Where were you born? Do you have ID? He says, I'm a U.S. citizen. Can I just go home?

They say no and they take him. The fact that they're targeting Hmong people now, too. Like, it's none of these fucking people know what Hmong are. And none of them even. So they're just going to grab, like, any East Asian person. And like, indeed, like these, the two, suppose the two fugitives that they claim to have, like, drag that old man out in the snow over are Laotian rather than Hmong. So there's, shockingly, these fucking Nissan cube-shaped spousal abusers are failing to understand the diversity of East Asian ethnic groups. It's not racial profiling, though. Don't worry.

The cops there, off-duty cops in Minneapolis are talking about how they're getting harassed by ICE as well when they're not in uniform being asked to show their papers. And I'm not bringing that up. We talked about this in her shoot yesterday briefly, this element of even the police chief speaking out. I talked about it last week. It's not to say like the poor cops. It's to say even the cops are saying this is chaos. I wonder what as this progresses, if that helps bring clarity to some people that are on the fence to see that their law enforcement are even raising the alarm here. I do think that a lot of.

conservatives, the ones who are like so terrified of like any big city, uh, just think that all the, all the cops and heavily Democratic cities are liberals too. So yeah, then there's that. Maybe they're just like, oh, they would say that. The woke cops are saying. Yeah. So yeah, exactly. I think it's going to happen more and more. The more this keeps up, the more people will know people in their lives. Normal people will know people who've maybe not had their doors busted down, although that is happening more and more, but have been stopped and pull over or have someone

who works for them accosted by ice, it's going to become more and more stifling for people to live. Especially as they go to more and more places too. Like there's everywhere. You can tell that the government is just really grasping

for an angle by which they can go on the offensive on this too. Like it was the the sex offenders in the old man's house that turned out to be a lie. But for a while, they're like, well, oh, so you love sex offenders? Really? Really?

That's where we are now. And now it's this, like, doomed prosecution of this woman who, uh, loved the protest at the church, uh, which is like, already, uh, like turning, uh, fairly farcical because that they apparently couldn't, uh, get the magistrate. straight to church Don Lemon too. Yeah, Don Lemon was in this church, documenting it as a journalist. There was a protest happening in the church because a volunteer vocational pastor is, I believe, also the director of the local ice field office.

Yeah. Is that correct? And so they arrested the ringleaders of this church riot. If you're listening, I'm doing all the – He's got a lot of quotes in this. Yeah. And then they arrested one of these people and then the White House altered the image that was taken of her arrest using AI to make it look like she's crying. Yeah, yeah.

Blurring the agent's face and then making her look like she's trying. Because she looks too dignified in the real picture, I assume. They want that they want people to think that she was scared when she had to face sexual consequences. Yeah, they, they, she, everyone needs to feel humiliated, um, and they need to feel strong. Um, they've done this before, uh, post, it was more when during the like studio jibbley sort of like era where, like, they were doing that kind of thing. But again, making people look like they're like crying and so on, um, because, yeah, they, it's just, because they can get away with it, too. They can just lie. They can do their AI. There's already a community note on it. It doesn't matter. Nobody cares. They, they, so much of their.

project is based on their enemies crying. And it always has been. And this is just their opportunity to do it even more. You know, you can drive yourself not psychoanalyzing these people, but I just, I think that that's part of this idea that the only valid emotion to express is anger. So like, of course you, you to depict someone at their apotheosis, you show them as crying instead. And they're charging them under 18 U.S. Code 241, which is a federal civil rights violation of conspiracy to disrupt someone's First Amendment rights. So they're saying by protesting within the church,

they were preventing people from exercising their freedom of religion rights. And so they could go to jail for 10 years. So Don Lemon's, the judge already said we're not charging Don Lemon. I can't imagine. imagine this gets to a trial. I can't imagine a federal jury in Minnesota. I mean, what what these women are going through is terrifying. Don't get me wrong to have to be perp walked by these blurred face. What's what's the movie not waking life? A scanner darkly freaks. It's hard to imagine it going that far. You're correct. But it is a terrifying moment because we know that this administration wants to make examples of people. We know that. We know that. that this administration is preparing all sorts of ways that you can investigate protesters.

Very broad blanket justifications like family values or whatever bullshit. It's just terrifying. Yes, it's Minneapolis. Yes, I have faith that they will ultimately be okay. But now they're the poster child for it. And, you know, that people like other people that they have tried and that they have like face planted trying to. to target Letitia James or James Comey. Like those people have like a fight a nuisance,

nuisance prosecution money. I can't imagine these people do necessarily. That's such a good point. These are just average people trying to do what's right. And also, okay, you interrupted a church service for a little bit. Another day, ICE raided a church and pulled out people to deport, to so it's just yeah like go fund me is about to go from funding people's health care to funding people's defense attorneys to get out of these bogus prosecutions and i'm sure that there's

going to be some illegal as hell like a investigatory dig into the people contributing to those too oh sure yeah if you contribute to the go fund me of uh of a domestic terrorist or a church writer You're on the list. Yeah, you're on the list. It's a long list. There's other stuff to talk about here, but I do want to acknowledge that the Wilk autopsy report for Renee Good's murder came out,

and the shot that killed her entered through the left side of her head and out the right, which means that the shot that killed her is that third shot when he was on the side out of the way of the vehicle, his life was not in danger that's when he was the most scared when he was out of the way and that's when he said

fucking bitch yeah there's a a great post if you're into like legal stuff on lawfare I can't remember the writer will put it up

he wrote like regardless of what you think of the legality of the killing itself here's all of the ways that this situation shouldn't have been there to begin with. All of the internal guidelines of DHS that requires them to do things differently. The approaching of the car, the, you know, the guy going, get out of the fucking car at her

when she's waving people on to go around. Successfully. I want to read a quote from the ICE Code of Conduct just to paint the picture. of what they're supposed to be versus what we've all seen happening. ICE employees must be professional, polite, respectful, and patient in all official activities that involve

contact with members of the public, even in the face of considerable provocation. So that doesn't exactly to me seem like... They're not living up to that fully. I would say the Buckingham Palace Guards over here. Yeah. Stoic. That's what I describe them as.

No, obviously, that's not happening anywhere. Proudly. They also are, like we're talking about Vance and all these people coming out and defending all this behavior. They are defending the behavior that is not in line with that. They're like, yeah, obviously it's chaotic. So they're going to act like this. And if you do this, then this is what going to happen to you. So they don't even. I mean, I think that's part of why they released the POV video like it was exculpatory. Like, not just to like whip people up by showing that her wife was visibly queer, but like also like when he says fucking bitch there's this the intended audience is like, oh, there you go

she was a fucking bitch, case closed. Exactly. They were disrespecting the officers to their faces laughing at them and he called her a bitch. There there it is. We all saw it. Half people who agreed that didn't even watch the video, I'm sure.

We kind of skimmed past this but there was an ICE memo this week that leaked to the Associated Press, giving the guidance that agents can enter a private residence with only an administrative warrant, not a judicial warrant. They can't. That's a Fourth Amendment violation on its face. But then they kept this memo secret and told the officials who received it only to verbally brief other officers so that they didn't have the memo itself spreading around. Do they not?

They think it's maybe illegal? Are they worried about it? Are they worried about the memo? That's behavior that maybe indicates that they know how bad it is. They all know it's so transparent. Yeah, did you, it's not ICE. It's the FBI, but did you see that piece in the New York Times about the people who've been driven out under the Patel regime? And they quote someone who was basically told, you know, you can get fired now or you can get fired when we're being prosecuted in four years.

Yeah. You can get fired when they start. doing constitutional violation investigations. Yeah, when they realize what's going on. Yeah, I was going to bring that up, too, in the context of, like, Katie, what you're talking about with the, you know, cops saying that we're being, like, profiled when we're not in uniform. And, like, hopefully that'll move the needle.

Similarly, all these, like, very, very serious FBI agents just sort of, like, plainly describing what a disaster, Cash Patel is. Yeah. And hoping, like, will that move the needle? But then to them, again, it's just sort of like this, the woke deep state part of the FBI. Surely those are the ones that don't, that, uh, that are saying that are speaking out. It's tough, man, because no one trusts anybody in the media and getting rumors and they, it's really hard to change your opinion. You're trying to, like, is that one of the good guys or the bad guys?

Are they just trying to tell me so they can protect the deep state? Anyone who thinks that all of the people who've been pushed out of the FBI were super woke should read this thing because they're all like, I'm not super woke. I thought the January sixth investigations went too far. And then they're like, oh, these people are usually incompetent. But also, like, he keeps trying to do like these like jet ski like trips. Can I bring that up?

Please. I like all the whole, the whole article is so. This whole thing is a lot. They interviewed 45 different current and former FBI officials and agents, some of who are on the record with their names, some of whom are not and may still work there. Apparently last May Cash Patel was going to what's called a Five Eyes conference where you meet with the heads of other intelligence agencies. Yeah, Five Guys, Burgers, and Eyes. Going to Five Guys.

And there was going to be this big meeting, like in a conference room where you do meetings. And Cash Patel was like, I don't like that. I want to do it at social events. Can we maybe do this at a premier soccer game or on a jet skiing trip or on a helicopter tour? And the people under him, yeah, were like, what and all he cared about according to his staff was what his meals were when his workouts would be and what his entertainment would be could he bring his girlfriend

and had no kind of plan for how he wanted to run or operate the FBI just kind of saw it as I'm here now I go on TV it's a party he's see this is that this is the promise of America because you got the child of immigrants acting exactly like a European pictures, an ugly American acting. Yeah. He's nailing it.

I keep thinking that clip of him on Katie Miller's podcast where he has his girlfriend. And he's like, well, I'm not abusing my power to use the plane to go to my girlfriend's shows. Because I've only been to like 15% of her shows. I think it was I think it was Chapo that was speculating that he is leaking all of these items himself so that Cash Patel's girlfriend's

keeps showing up in headlines Yeah It's good PR, it's helping out This whole thing is like the most recent season of Slow Horses on Apple TV Where one of the guys is being Honeypotted Yeah

I mean the The like most annoying Asocial one Yeah There's so many details in this thing. We can't talk about them all. Apparently after a mass shooting, Dan Bongino just

was calling a bunch of people on the scene asking, what can I tweet about this? They were very, very focused on what... What can I tweet? Yeah. It's really embarrassing. This is very embarrassing. That's so fucked up. Doesn't you know that they're not called tweets anymore? Not that it's ex-steady.

Right? They're just cold posts. Yeah. They're just offensive. Quote, the field office has to be careful. This is their boss, but the body was still there. said, we'll get back to you. But Bongino kept calling back asking, what can I tweet?

Oh, God. I don't care about the details of the thing. What can I post? Do you remember the Ryan Murphy Clinton impeachment miniseries for a few years ago? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. There's this one scene with a reaction image. I immediately knew that I was going to use a lot where Billy Eichner as Matt Dredge, his DSL line has gone out and he's on the phone screaming,

I need to post. I need to post. That's exactly this. Unbelievable how much this is the posting administration. You think of Vance primarily, but the entire apparatus, the DHS, the Nazi stuff that the White House and these accounts post.

The memes will flow shit. Right. To extend it to Patel and Bongino, and we know they're part of this crowd here, but apparently all of the FBI people who were taken off what they were working on to help immigration enforcement. That was just forwarded to them from the DOJ.

And Patel and Bonjino had no choice over what this. They said, yep, give them whatever they need. They weren't pushing back. They worked for Stephen Miller. He gets to decide what to do with FBI agents who were working on counterterrorism or whatever. Wild. We should talk about,

this ICE bill and the funding that is being voted on today. Already voted on? Supposedly it's today. It's likely to pass their vote. The House is voting on a funding bill that's going to prevent a government shut down in a week. And it is going to fund ICE, which is why most Democrats are voting against it. Though Hakeem Jeffrey said his office would not whip votes to try and make it fail, reduce. The one thing you can do with folks.

Like what's your fucking job, man? Just roll over and show them your belly, bud. It's also like with this specific issue, like it's so clear cut. It's so obvious that people have a problem with it and to shut down the government because you don't want to fund this specific like behavior that you can show clips of. We all know what's going on is such an obvious thing to at least try to do. It's really, really shameful that there's not even an attempt to pretend. Like, they're so terrified of going against ICE or going against law enforcement in any way,

even though this is a very, very obviously potentially winning issue. It's another case where Zorae Mamdani is sort of the gallant to their goofos, because, like, pretty sure it was this week that he was getting, like, rapturous applause from the view audience who are just unambiguously saying, I should be abolished, which, you know, on the one hand, you can say that that's easier for him to say since he's not in the position of making a decision on that. But you have to have to have the political will first. It's still a brave thing to say as a politician. You know that people are going to react to that. But all they're saying is, well, ICE is minus five and affordability is minus 30 for Trump. So just talk about

that. But there's a connection between these things. Yeah, that other soundbite. Alexandria Acacia Cortez had the other day when she was saying you, the services that you rely on to survive are being cut because all the money is going to toddler kidnapping. Exactly. Even my mom said me that one. It's like that is what people want our politicians to be saying. This is what we need to hear. They don't understand.

Obviously, they should understand. understand how angry we are. Look at what's happening. They're polling isn't Republican polling, Trump polling isn't doing so hot, but neither are Democrats. They're rolling over. They're not doing anything. They're not taking any sort of position. They're not giving anybody any sort of hope. They're not trying. And they're about to pass what another $10 billion on top of the 75 billion that ICE already has. And at least pretend. Like I know I see a lot of people like, well, now is not the time because the election's over. Like you're, you're too late.

You should have voted and so on. It's like, okay. But like a lot of people did vote. And what else? At least pretend. If you pretend, people might vote you in later on. Now is the time and maybe you will actually be able to accomplish something. But if you just pre-decide that you're not going to do anything, then they won.

And there's this, there's this attitude of inevitability about the midterms, which like, obviously the obviously with the way things are going I would expect the Democrats to clean up but like it's a motivational to people if you give them the sense that

you're not going to be a meaningful opposition party. In a lot of these races Democrats maybe are pulling a little bit ahead but only by like four or five points in a lot of these races that's that's not okay for how bad this is. It really should be a little. Yeah.

Something is wrong and they're letting it remain wrong. They're not doing a damn thing. It's actually very scary because there's something in me that's like there is a hopelessness that's about to set in. There is people tuning out or, you know, insulating. I don't know what it'll happen. But if we can't perform in these midterms, that's a big deal. Yeah. I would hammer this.

I'm not a Democratic consultant. No one listens to me. However, I would hammer this and just connect it to the good things that you can prove are possible. Like, we basically ended child poverty five years ago, and then they decided we don't want to do that anymore. And you can say, you can show a picture of the five-year-old and say, Democrats want to lift this child out of poverty. Republicans want to send him by himself to a concentration camp in Texas. And you probably don't want to go as far as that. if you're Eric's Wallwell or whatever.

But like, you just have to say the AOC thing over and over again. They're defunding your health care so they can fund. Refraise it to fit your, you know, constituents or whatever. But like, it's so, yeah, very obvious. Although, I mean, I can see a situation where they just, like, get confused and copy a wholesale and Chuck Schumer's like, when I was a young Puerto Rican girl growing up in the Bronx. Yeah

Schumers getting better They're getting better at social media I keep refreshing this to be like Let's just have it pass now So I can announce it here Because we're going to pass Or five minutes after we're done recording Yeah

Up the house just passed it We stopped recording but we've put this in This is now in The House voted to pass the thing Let's see we got a few minutes left we could listen to this joke from Elon Musk, who made a joke. I mean, I heard about the formation of the Peace Summit. And I was like, is that P-I-E-C?

You know, a little piece of Greenland, the little piece of Venezuela. We got one. All we want is peace. Yeah, A, he stole a Mel Brooks joke. B, he explains the joke before he got to the punchline. You're watching a master at work. A master. I can't.

I want him to be, he should, he should make all, he should just make all movies. He then recognized that just spelling the word the different way isn't the joke. Like, he recognizes it. And then he's like, let me, let me keep doing it. Actually explain, right. It's like I'm, I guess I have to explain it, but in explaining it, I'm technically doing the punchline and how it should be. Yeah, I had, it's, yeah, he's the fucking dad from finding Nemo except for the, for the, for the evil. Yeah, except for the making any effort to find where your child is.

Yeah. Yeah, he would never. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think we should just give them. You're being too hard. he's ready for an hour long special.

Just give him the keys to Netflix. Let him at it. Let him do it. God, seriously. Just like, stop inviting him to speak anywhere. It's excruciating. I do find this is why. This is actually why I wanted to read this quote.

Because he's obviously, it's painful to watch him speak. But if you read what he says, it's even worse in a way because he can't, he just doesn't know what he's saying. And by the time he's done, you're like, I guess. man. So here he's at Davos. He's talking about robots and AI and the future. So with the robotics and AI, this is really the path to abundance for all. If you say people often talk about solving global poverty or essentially how do we make give everyone a very high standard of living, I think the only way to do this is AI and robotics. So, but if you if you have billions of humanoid robots, And I think there will be, I think, I think everyone on earth is going to have one and going to want one.

Because you would, who wouldn't want a robot to, you know, assuming it's very safe, watch over your kids, take care of your pet. If you have elderly parents, a lot of friends of mine said they have elderly parents. It's very difficult to take care of them. It's expensive and it's expensive. And there just aren't enough people to take care of the, there aren't enough young people to take care of the old people. So if you had a robot that could take care of and and protect and and elderly parents, I think that would be great. Like this says a lot of my friends say they have elderly parents. Like I'm taking them at their word on that.

Yeah. Look, look, don't call me on this. I have heard that some people have parents. I'm not going to ask my friends about their parents or know any details about them, but they say that they have them. Also, listen, I'm not going to pretend. that parenthood is not difficult and that parents don't need breaks. But when he says, who wouldn't want a robot to take care of your child, period. Do you want to qualify that at all or just always?

His pitch is take care of your child. But yeah, Musk's entire pitch for these robots is they'll do everything for you, especially take care of your kids, which I don't want to do myself. and everyone will have one, at least one, and I'll make them, and you'll buy them from me. And that's... No problem here. But notice I said that really, really, really quickly

and didn't need to do all that other nonsense. Well, have you had ketamine today? No, that's a good point. Have you had your ketamine today? Have you had your ketamine today? Well, because... Ten years from now. It's almost...

A big campaign. It's almost ketamine Friday with Tony de Coupil. He's like, we're switching it up. Whiskey's not popular enough. We got the sponsor. We'll do a different drug every week until people start watching.

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