Some More News - Even More News: Hegseth Memes About War Crimes, Trump Uses R-Word, and Even More Thanksgiving News

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

Hi. On today's episode, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan do their best to catch you up on some of the biggest stories from the holiday week, including Pete Hegseth possibly definitely committing war ...crimes, Marjorie Taylor Greene resigning, Trump's Thanksgiving social media post, and more.As always, we recorded right before that big thing that happened.PATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comYOUTUBE MEMBERSHIP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/join#hegseth #venezuela #evenmorenews If you’re 21 or older, grab 25% off your first INDACLOUD order plus free shipping with code SMN at http://indacloud.co! Sign up for your $1/month trial and start selling today at https://shopify.com/morenewsOver 2 Million Butts Love TUSHY. Get 10% off TUSHY with the code SMN at https://hellotushy.com/SMNSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:43 Yes, it is. Hi, Katie. We're falling back into the news hole. Welcome to that is not the name of the show. Even more news. I'm Cody. Hi. Good job, Cody.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Hi. Jonathan. also is here. Yes, hi, made it. Made it back. Yes. It's happened into this. We've arrived.
Starting point is 00:02:07 We've arrived. We took a week off and the amount of news is absolutely crushing because now we got to catch up. We got to catch up. We got to play catch up.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Okay. I think we should reference Venezuela right now For, and we can still talk about some of this stuff, but for our some more news viewing audience, we've got an episode coming out this Wednesday about Venezuela and all of Trump's threatening to invade them. And of course, we shot this two weeks ago knowing it was not going to come out until after the Thanksgiving break and that there would be a lot of stuff that is happening. Likely related. The idea would be if that episode wasn't coming out, we'd probably dedicate this entire episode to Venezuela's stuff. But since it is and we'll continue talking about it, I think we just want to reference this very interesting disconnect between Defense Secretary Pete Hegsef and President Trump about whether Hegseth ordered the U.S. military to go back and murder a couple of people who survived. an initial strike in the ocean, which would of course be a war crime. Reporting suggests that
Starting point is 00:03:31 he did in fact do that. And then his social media posts have indicated that he's fine with that. And then Trump, when asked about it, says, well, I don't know anything about that. He says he didn't do it. That like, I don't know if that happened. And Pete said he did not, but we didn't even though what people were talking about. So we'll look into it. But no, I wouldn't have wanted to have a second strike. The first strike was very lethal, it was fine. And if there were two people around,
Starting point is 00:04:05 when Pete said that didn't happen. Yeah, it's messed up. It's so what an obvious war crime this is to have done if they did it, which they probably did, because they talk about how they like to do war crimes all the time. time. Hagset's whole thing is that we need to like fire all the lawyers who tell us when our actions are war crimes so that we can do war crimes. His whole vibe, his whole deal is to be able to do this kind of thing and get away with it and say yeah, we're America. We do what we
Starting point is 00:04:42 want and we're strong and this is how we get things done. So to be like, no, I mean, I didn't do that maybe. But also, yes, I did. Here's my weird meme. about how we just blow up whoever we want it's messed up and expected and he should be tried for crimes
Starting point is 00:05:01 but we don't do that and maybe someday is it is there when was the last time a secretary of defense got court-martialed I feel like we've kind of
Starting point is 00:05:09 abdicated our our responsibilities here long enough where we just we're not allowed we just can't do it who are we what yeah what mechanism
Starting point is 00:05:18 is there to hold these people accountable especially if they get the expected presidential pardon on the last day. Everything about this is illegal. This is a war crime. We shouldn't be at a war. He's trying to create a war.
Starting point is 00:05:33 But even if, even if all of these boats are exactly what they say that they are, which we're supposed to just to accept without evidence, even at that, these are just people. They aren't the people in charge of, you know, the trafficking. These are people on boats. Do they, is that a reason to, it's murder, it's murder, it's murder. There isn't a way to frame this as anything other than murder and a war crime. There just is it.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Yeah, we're not at war. We're doing war crimes. And the thing about that is it's not exactly like Trump has broken down barriers and changed things in America a lot. This part's not new. They've been doing war crimes for decades. They're not going to be held accountable. Yeah, exactly. That's the thing, like we've, we've sort of shirked our responsibility so much and sort of accept like, yeah, we just do, we do war crimes.
Starting point is 00:06:28 We're the war crime country. We're one of, we're one of many. Okay, we're not the only one. But to this point, it's just now they know all the things that they're allowed to say and brag about. So they're going to do it more blatantly. They're going to do it more aggressively. They're going to tweet, yeah, these like little memes. And then if you get, it's just, it's so, such a gross deploying.
Starting point is 00:06:51 of, like, meme culture, like, is like, I don't know if he was drunk last night or sober doing war crimes, but tweeting like, yeah, here's like with some, some, like, Christian turtle or something, like, blowing up a bunch of boats. Franklin. Franklin, thank you. Oh, yeah, Franklin.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Oh, is the, a fake children's story. And then if you get, if you're like, well, that's kind of fucked up, actually. You're sort of bragging about war crimes using this like, like beloved, like moral turtle character. But if you get like,
Starting point is 00:07:23 if you like point like, that's actually fucked up, well, you're just whining about a meme. It's just a meme is what they say. But the meme is referencing the war crime. So the actions they do. But because everything's online,
Starting point is 00:07:36 it's all memes now and this is the podcasting government, they are allowed to make that sort of barrier between reality and, like any criticism because like it wants this a meme you're mad at a meme no I'm mad about the war crime you posted a meme about the war crime um it's just very messed up and I don't
Starting point is 00:07:58 like them I agree with you completely and I think we need to move forward because again the onslaught this is the tip of the iceberg Cody's got a question so yeah I guess in relation to this um so in our Venezuela episode
Starting point is 00:08:14 we talk about former president Juan Hernandez who is a narco terrorist of Honduras thank you who was a narco terrorist like if you're going to use that word that's what he did a lot of corruption
Starting point is 00:08:28 a lot of smuggling a lot of a lot of what they what this administration would describe as narco terrorism but he got a pardon from the president very shortly after we filmed the episode where we mentioned Hernandez
Starting point is 00:08:44 in this context is very, very weird. And Trump asked about it. At first, he's like, I don't know who that guy is. And then was like, well, I heard it was a Biden setup job or something. Like, it's clear his grasp of any details about this are gone. It's so, they're all just, every day he's just saying something where it's like, okay, that's related to like another news story that I guess you kind of heard from somebody else, but you're relating it to this.
Starting point is 00:09:13 You don't really know what's going on. You don't know who you're pardoning. You don't know why. You're being told what to do. You're kind of being cucked, sir. You are kind of being cut, sir. And whether he actually is or isn't or that is the, just the, the line that he uses to, that all of them use to wiggle out. Oh, I don't know anything about that.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I've been told this. I've been told that, XYZ. people in the right sure seem to accept that answer from him but it's stunning I mean it is just at face value it's so maddening but especially along with this whole auto pen declaration of how everything that Joe Biden signed with an auto pen is now invalidated first off can you do that but second I just need to make this point and it's an obvious one but the rationale behind this is that Joe Biden just signed what people gave him and that's why it should be considered illegal.
Starting point is 00:10:17 What are you doing then? If you're saying, I don't know, this is just what was given to me. Isn't that the same fucking logic? And by your logic about Joe Biden, shouldn't we all be alarmed at your obvious declining health and the lies, lies, lies around it? Shouldn't we be alarmed? He took that, he took that test. decided to take the cognitive test and he took it or as he calls it an IQ test and he did a really
Starting point is 00:10:43 good job I did perfectly which you could never do exactly exactly because you're all stupid his MRI he doesn't know what part of the body he was MRIing who knows his ideas kind of details you're playing 18 dimensional chess around the world you don't ask what they're MRIing in your body whatever it was it was perfect it was perfect and that was a sleepy time, nap time, and why would he be awake to know what they are imaging? You don't want your president to rest? Come on. Is it legal to just declare everything he's signed with auto pen invalidated? Is that possible? Well, right. Like, I do want to read a little bit of this post because he did one of his I am
Starting point is 00:11:30 hereby canceling. Okay, you can't just truth social that. But I don't like, could a president just do an executive order saying all the previous guys executive orders are void. Truth social is now a branch of our government so maybe he can't. So that counts. What did you ask? You were making an actual point. Well, yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:51 it's just like maybe he can. Maybe he can sit down and sign an executive order saying all Biden's executive orders are null and void and it's like all executive orders are directions to federal agency. I was going to say executive orders are pretty loosey-goosey. You could just do that. Who cares about auto pen?
Starting point is 00:12:07 stuff. But I want to say he did this. I am hereby canceling all executive orders and anything else that was not directly signed by crooked Joe Biden, blah, blah, blah. The people who operated the auto pen did so illegally. Joe Biden was not involved in the auto pen process. And if he says he was, he will be brought up on charges of perjury, is just saying, even if Biden does say that and is lying, you don't get brought up on perjury if you're not under oath someone. Like, Like, you can't say like what's... Just saying a lie is not a... You can't go to jail for perjury for that.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Otherwise, Donald Trump would be in jail for perjury. I mean, he'd be dead. Because he hasn't... Joe Biden hasn't previously said in court that he wasn't involved. Right. So if he comes out and says, yes, I was, that's not proving that he perjured himself earlier, nor is it saying it. How would they prove beyond a reasonable doubt that?
Starting point is 00:13:06 he was lying. He's like, oh, yeah. Yes, there was auto pen, but yeah, like, I approved all this. I was the president. What are they going to say? Like, you were, you were legally dead or something? They're going to say, no-uh, you didn't know what you were doing, probably, right? This is a gibberish truth, social post. This one is gibberish. The first, the first gibberish truth from the president, who we finally got there. Who knew he was even capable of this kind of gibberish. What's the one thing you're not allowed to talk about at the Christmas dinner table? That's right. Wolf Parade's second album at Mount Zumer. Uncle Travis hates that album,
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Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah. On a long screen. So this is happy Thanksgiving. Yeah, it's all the losers and the people who are just plain stupid. And in this, he refers to Tim Walls as seriously R-worded. Which is... We're getting closer. Which makes me think that this is a Stephen Chung original.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Like, he knows that there's a thing where he has to see if this is okay to start saying. I don't think... Like, Trump will be asked about this and it'll be like, I don't know anything about that. I know, Cody, you've been thinking for a while that he is going to say it. verbally? By the time he, by the time he his term is over or he is dead. He'll say it on camera. He will. Yeah. Not this year probably. It's too close to Christmas. But I think probably next year. Yeah. This is soft launch. He doesn't know. Trump is not aware of the culture war
Starting point is 00:16:22 R word stuff like, oh, we're saying the R word again. Right? Like he's not aware of that, but Stephen Chung is. And who writes this stuff. Maybe, maybe it won't be Trump. Maybe it we Vance, but one of them will. Vance. Vance does know about it and would want to do that. Yes. You don't think he knows about it? Trump might, it doesn't care about
Starting point is 00:16:42 any of this stuff. Trump doesn't know that the culture war thing, one of the culture war things of the moment is we're saying that word specifically again. As soon as he does know, he will say it. But Vance is aware of it and it might be him instead,
Starting point is 00:16:59 but one or the other by the end of next year, I would say. But great, it's in a tweet now, so that's awesome. Yeah, easier. It is easier to grab to put on the screen here than going to Truth Social, Xing out all the slop ads that they have there. Like, I hate to credit Elon with a cleaner interface. Some of the ads on Twitter are way are better than Truth Social somehow. They managed to do that, but gosh.
Starting point is 00:17:24 There were other horrific things in that tweet, though, outside of the R word. Yeah, Ilhan Omar. I mean, he talked about Ilhan Omar and ranted about Somalian refugees living in Minnesota, and they've ruined Minnesota. Somalian gangs are roving the streets looking for prey as our wonderful people stay locked in their apartments and houses, hoping against hope that they will be left alone. It's the new eating the dogs eating the cats. Yes. He's watched, he's seen the AI slop and he's like, yeah, I've seen the videos. And he's been making.
Starting point is 00:18:01 This it's not even really a connection he's been talking about Somalia more and he brings it up when he's asked about the National Guard shooting that the alleged shooter is not a Somalian was a person from Afghanistan who had worked with us for years against the Taliban. But when that comes up, he jumps to Somalian refugees because I guess Brown is the it's proud. It's a few reasons. It's Brown. He wants to go after Ilhan Omar, obviously, and referring to her swaddling hijab because he's so, well, we can talk more about that if you want, Katie. But it's because also there's that fraud thing. We'll be talking about this a little later in the week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:48 But it's because he conflates everything. He's been hearing about, oh, the Somalian fraud thing. Oh, roving gangs. Oh, immigrant. and influx of immigration. Oh, the Haitians eating the pets and the dogs. He's conflating everything and he wants to bring everything up. It's what works for him.
Starting point is 00:19:03 If any immigrant does anything bad, any crime, he will pick any nationality. And just it doesn't matter to him. He's flailing. As we have talked about for weeks now, things are out of his control. He's flailing. People are unhappy. But in times of stress, You go back to the basics.
Starting point is 00:19:27 You go back to your roots. And his roots were dividing the country with sensationalist racism, bogeyman's, something to point a finger at to make people riled up and afraid, whatever. Suck up all the oxygems in the room. Put insults on the internet. Distract, distract, distract. And it works for him. So, yeah, now as Cody said, there's. There's the whole scandal over fraud and Minnesota, and, you know, they're painting it as all of these Somali refugees doing the fraud.
Starting point is 00:20:08 But we will dig into that later this week. Yeah. We're not even done with his really, really, really good tweet. You know, I just wanted to say that about the tweet. It's really good. And it's obviously horrible that he used that word, the R word in this post. but they're so the whole thing
Starting point is 00:20:29 is absolutely wild what he posted and no one I didn't hear that many people talking about all the other stuff the fact that what he's saying
Starting point is 00:20:38 about Elon Omar and how deeply disrespectful disgusting what he does but yeah it's all just nasty business happy Thanksgiving folks
Starting point is 00:20:48 and like just turning it all into like especially like on Thanksgiving it's you know so many things you can say about that but just like being like and I'm going to make Thanksgiving about how we're going to do remigration
Starting point is 00:21:00 which is just like ethnic cleansing remigration on the holiday that's about all of us coming together and coming to America and I mean it's all bullshit of course the Thanksgiving story but the idea that we're supposed to be celebrating is that the natives welcomed us I when it comes to like lame duck Trump which I think we're in that territory we're in lame duck territory and we're going to talk about like the fracturing of MAGA here in a minute
Starting point is 00:21:34 I'm wondering if he is so insulated and fed these polls you know how he says like I have the best numbers I ever have when it's so like staggeringly untrue and he has the worst numbers that he ever had even in his first term if that is because he's literally being fed false
Starting point is 00:21:50 information or he just doesn't care and is just going to keep going after his enemies, keep doing the corruption stuff. Like, he doesn't really care about trying to, like, write the ship governing-wise. Oh, yeah. But he might legitimately not know
Starting point is 00:22:06 how bad things are going for him in public, and he might not understand why Maga is fracturing, why people like Marjorie Taylor Green are straight up quitting. Marjorie Taylor Green has announced that she will resign. Marjorie Taylor Brown. Marjorie Taylor.
Starting point is 00:22:24 yellow because she's a coward right because she's a coward running for the hills brown because grass rots apparently yellow because coward blue because she's sad red because she's angry too rainbow because she's now indigo violet blue
Starting point is 00:22:42 indigo yellow green anyway she's resigning she needs to go away green because she's so envious of Donald Trump let's keep interrupting she's resigning what other In January. She's resigning.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And apparently this is the tip of the iceberg. Guys, I love your banter. That's fun. I just thought we were moving forward, and I had to stick to my guns. We're moving forward because the light is green. Fush off. Fush off. Or fuse with the MAGA movement.
Starting point is 00:23:15 What were you going to say, Katie? Marjorie Taylor, orange you glad you quit? yes got her got her we got it got her so good take that scene goodbye everybody we're done now
Starting point is 00:23:31 have a great it's been so long since I've done improv or anything like it you guys are good oh she quit no no it comes back to you it's like she quit it's like riding an exercise bike
Starting point is 00:23:43 she's yellow yeah so so she posted this big thing about how she's quitting leaving Congress after her I guess five year there's a five year Congress' pension
Starting point is 00:23:55 vesting period. So she'll get some money. She'll get the retirement money. It's like a few thousand dollars in 12 years or something like that. So she's going to leave on January 5th. Who doesn't want a few thousand dollars in a few years? She's just done so.
Starting point is 00:24:08 She ain't done so. I mean, she is. That does check any day. Any day. Any day. Her explanation was very much like using language to indicate that like QAnon on stuff was never true.
Starting point is 00:24:22 There is no. 4D chess nothing that they want is going to happen and it seems like she realized Trump's a con man it took this long but she recognized it
Starting point is 00:24:35 and now she's just out I think she's always known he's a con man she's just seeing the winds change and is looking out for her own future but regardless she has publicly I'm sure you believe that as well
Starting point is 00:24:49 I don't see how she could have believed that he was anything other than what he was. It just doesn't suit her ambitions anymore to go down with a sinking ship. That's what I think. I think she's going to run for something else. She might. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:04 It's still unclear because she is like a grifty fraudster weirdo. Again, she started her career by harassing Parkland shooting victims and like in public and then posting the videos of it proudly. So she's definitely a character. one thing because one thing she also mentions in her statement is like all the stuff that she like you're saying like well Trump didn't do anything we said we didn't we're not doing all the
Starting point is 00:25:32 things I want and she's list off all the bills and it's like I don't know it's all it's just a list of like yeah we haven't kicked out enough immigrants we haven't like demonized trans people enough we haven't done all my evil shit enough and Trump doesn't want to do my evil shit so I'm quitting and I just wanted to point that out because I I've seen I I it's framed like oh the far left is welcoming Marjorie Taylor Green with open arms no that's not happening um I have seen a little bit of more like moderate uh Dems kind of be like welcome to the party pal kind of stuff right yeah um which is gross and weird but I just wanted to highlight like no she she wants to do the bad stuff still yeah it's because he didn't do
Starting point is 00:26:15 enough of the bad stuff that she feels betrayed um and all the other stuff we've talked about with her and like, you know, the grift and just, yeah, all that kind of stuff. Big tent, but not that big. Yeah, we don't need, we don't need that. We don't need to do that. Strong, strong floor, no ceiling. What is it?
Starting point is 00:26:34 That, the phrase that they're going, trying to go with is, uh, strong floor, no ceiling. But it should be like, maybe there's a ceiling. When I say they, I mean Keem Jeffries and. Literally like two people, yeah. Like, it's just Hakeem Jeffries and Mattie Glacius. And Mattie Glacius, yeah. That's it.
Starting point is 00:26:51 So, but Marjorie Taylor Green says, like, this is the tip of the iceberg. Essentially, MAGA is fracturing. There will be more to come. Representative Troy Nels says he won't run for re-election. He's a prominent, semi-prominent MAGA Republican in Congress. I mean, that's kind of like he was, I'll point this out earlier. He, during Trump's, no, during Biden's last state of the union address, he wore a Trump mugshot shirt.
Starting point is 00:27:20 that said like we're never going away or come and take it give me the business I forget what it said something stupid the point is we have not seen
Starting point is 00:27:31 this kind of fracturing in the decade that it started this is also by the way a prominent theme in the new Knives Out film Wake Up Dead Man interestingly enough
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Starting point is 00:31:23 Apparently the mom-dani meeting happened the day after we last recorded when Trump gushed over her mom, Donnie. Love it for sake. I did have some fun with that. I don't think we need to rehash it, but being asked if he's a fascist, then him saying it's okay, go ahead, you can say it. It's easier. Just so fucking good.
Starting point is 00:31:46 It's beautiful. It's truly so beautiful. the beaming up at him. I'm clarifying your answer to Stephen Nelson. He asked about your comment called the president a fascist. And your answer was, with President Trump and I have been clear about our positions and our views. Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist? I've spoken about.
Starting point is 00:32:07 That's okay. You can just say yes. Okay. It's easier. It's easier than explaining it. I don't mind. He can recognize when someone's popular and charming and that he is. well, it's obviously a wildly different platform than Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It's the same thing we've been saying. Cody, you've been saying. I eventually started saying is that a significant chunk of people that voted for Donald Trump would have voted for Bernie Sanders, the affordability issue, the feeling of frustration, the overwhelming dissatisfaction with the status quo, wanting something different. And so there is that cross-section. And those people are seeing Trump. for the bullshitter that he is he wants to make nice with it
Starting point is 00:32:52 he wants to be he wants to ride those coattails but mom donnie I think you know this he's not to be trusted he's not your new best friend obviously mom donnie knows that yeah it's very it's very funny
Starting point is 00:33:06 obvious sort of thing where well yeah he's a right wing demagogue so he's going to channel people's in many cases genuine frustrations about the economy or whatever and he's going to funnel them and channel
Starting point is 00:33:22 them into his own personal grievance targets or whatever his racism, whatever it is, he's going to funnel him there but you know they can potentially be redirected probably not from just that one meeting but it is interesting that I mean A it's it's the last person in the
Starting point is 00:33:41 room phenomenon with Trump where it's just like whatever the last person said he's just like on board with it but also Obviously, Mom Dani is a very charismatic and talented politician and speaker and likable. And just like, if you see him in interviews, he's just like kind of a chill, like, pleasant guy to talk to, which I don't think Donald Trump is getting a whole lot of these days. So he probably was relieved that you didn't have to talk to freak Stephen Miller about who he hates that day. I thought the reaction to the fascist thing was really interesting and funny for, I mean, obviously it is. but part of me is like like I interpreted it as somewhat don't answer that you're charismatic and you're a good communicator I don't want you to explain why you use that word to the American people like this guy who could articulate why Donald Trump was a fascist pretty well was asked next to him and it felt a lot like no just say yes it's easier like
Starting point is 00:34:45 Because the phrase, it's easier that way, indicated to me that either Mamdani, like, told him, like, here's what you're doing and here's why. Or he knows that, like, if it's explained, it's not going to be good for him. So it wasn't just sort of, like, a funny thing. It was like, no, just say yes. Because if you explain it. I just, well, there were several moments within that interview. Some of it got glossed over or an interview moment that got glossed over. I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I just also, yeah, I don't think that he wanted to give space for the explanation of what that meant. But he backed him up a couple times. There was the reporter trying to catch him about how he got to the White House. Well, why didn't you take public transportation? He goes, oh, I take all forms of public transportation. And I don't know what Trump said, but he's like, it's fine. It'll take longer. Let it go.
Starting point is 00:35:41 It would take longer. He was smart. Yeah, leave my new son alone. But I think that mostly what I guess what I'm trying to say is for him having this be a pleasant experience works better for Trump than letting it get derailed into some sort of aggressive or contentious sidebar, which obviously he's not afraid of doing all the time whenever he wants. He loves to make things contentious. he was just trying to create this atmosphere of we got along great exactly yeah and he's not
Starting point is 00:36:18 he's not going to be like he's not going to say we're going to deport you to his face he'll truth social about that later but also you know it seems like at least for now that pleasant meeting that they had has stopped Trump from wanting to send the national guard to New York City and it's smart down or whatever I haven't seen people talk about this that much
Starting point is 00:36:40 I thought it was really funny and it speaks a lot to Trump being stupid. There's so there's a portrait of FDR that they took
Starting point is 00:36:53 photos in front of and they talk about it in the interview. FDR is I believe Mom Dani's favorite president or at least one of them because of the New Deal, things like that.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And they bring it up and Mom Dani talks about yeah, I noticed when we were in the meeting, I noticed that there was this portrait of FDN. And Trump, of course, like, jumps in. He's like, yeah, I found that.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I was in the archives, and I was like, that's the one. I found it. One thing I also appreciated is in our meeting to appreciate a portrait of FDR. And the incredible work that was done with the New Deal and also in thinking about what it can look like when the federal government and New York City government work together, deliver on affordability, it can be transformative. You know, we have a great portrait of FDR that I found in the vaults. that was missing for years I found it and I put it up
Starting point is 00:37:45 he's a Democrat to the best of my nose he's a Democrat and when the mayor saw that portrait he said sir do you mind if I have a picture taken by that point it's an amazing portrait I hope the picture comes out
Starting point is 00:37:56 good but it's an amazing portrait in the cabinet room so he's a big fan of the new deal I guess and of FTIES he was Christopher walking in severance yes exactly he's like you know
Starting point is 00:38:07 I found a great portrait of Kiev I told her to bring it up And now are you enjoying it, too? You guys both did a pretty good job. Mine's not so good. Hey, no, I think we can do a whole episode like this. I think that's the one.
Starting point is 00:38:23 But so he did that, and I thought that was funny. Obviously, he's like taking credit because he needs to make, like, you saw the portrait because I'm the brilliant portrait fighter. But then he starts talking about FDR and he says, I forget the exact quote, but Trump says, like, yeah, and I found out, you know, we're talking about FDR, apparently he's mom done. He's Zoran's favorite, favorite president, a Democrat, I believe so, I think. And there's a moment, he's like, I think he's a Democrat.
Starting point is 00:38:49 And then he's like, and I apparently likes things he did, like the New Deal and things like that. And the way he talked about it, the way he described it, communicated to me that Trump didn't know what the New Deal was or that it was a thing. Like, it seems to me. think that he would? It seems to me like, in that meeting, Zoron was like, oh, is that FDR? He's like, yeah, I found it. And then Zoran explained why he likes FDR to Trump
Starting point is 00:39:22 and explained like, oh, yeah, he did this for workers and did this and like these programs, the New Deal. He talked with the New Deal. And Trump was nodding along like, wow. Cool. That sounds really cool. He sounds like a really likable, like a well-liked president. And a guy who was like, was, like, he,
Starting point is 00:39:40 did considerable stuff right he made he made he got things done made his mark and that's what trump wants to be so he's like I like I like where you're getting with this like FDR did a lot of my favorite president too 100% well like did all these programs for people and like
Starting point is 00:39:56 really like like worked it to like get it to get it to happen and just like this idea of like oh I could do that I could be the new deal huh of a beloved president and it was just there's a part of me that thinks
Starting point is 00:40:12 that like when he was calling the Green New Deal the Green New Scam I don't think he knew that it was referencing the New Deal I think he was a new phrase to him like just the way he talked about like about FDR in that moment seemed like so
Starting point is 00:40:27 Mamdani taught you about FDR in that meeting it seems like well and the word deal is big for him as well like he wants to do his great exactly he'll be like I'm introducing the great deal, which is just all the stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Yeah, the brand, the brand new deal. You know, whatever it is. Right. You can, you could see, you could see a different version of Trump, uh, that sees FDR and goes like, I should do that. I should do stuff like that. Yeah. Instead of the evil stuff that, I'm not doing enough for, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Um, anyway, that's that I was, I was, I, those are the two things for me from the Monty thing. I just thought, like, the way he talked with the new deal was a really, really, really funny. Okay, well, I think that's enough for today. We're all easing back into things. We covered a lot of territory. Don't worry. Don't worry.
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