Some More News - Even More News: ICE Is Violent and Incompetent And MAGA Loves it

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

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please contact Connix Ontario at 1866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Oh, wow wee, hello my goodness. Hello, hi. Today, we talk about the continuing fallout from ICE murdering Renee Good, the ongoing violent rhetoric from the administration and just, you know, freaky citizens online, the administration ramping up threats towards Iran and Greenland, and Jerome Powell's looming indictment that's totally legit and for serious, real reasons.

Hello, and welcome back to even more news, the first and only news. podcast. I'm your host Katie Stoll. When second, hold on. No, I'm your host, Cody Johnston. And with me, as always is Katie Stoll. Wait, no, okay, hold on. Jonathan's also here. Uh, hi. What's happening? Hi, I know. Hello, folks. Katie is not with us today. She had an emergency. It's good. It's fine. Everything's fine. It's good news. But she's not here with us today on this beautiful Monday morning slash Tuesday when this posts. So you just got us, today. I'm so sorry. Yeah, sorry. If I do something weird, there's fewer things to cut to. There's one less. It's just, oh, gosh. If you, if you have to adjust your hat or get up for any reason,

I know I'm on camera and I'll just sit here. Like if I go over and like maybe you need to take a sip of coffee, which I'm going to do right now. Oh, oh, me too. And now that's television. I did it on camera. Okay. All right. Okay. So, hey, folks. Welcome back to the news. Here we are and we're going to talk about it. And we're not going to do holidays today because it's Monday. We don't do that kind of stuff today. Who needs that? Katie's going to open this video tomorrow and it's going to be 40 minutes of us crying. Just like, we're not going to talk about the news. What are we doing? No, we are. We are. We got news. We are. We are. Surely something happened over the weekend. Some things, some many frustrating things surely happened over the

weekend. Yeah. No, we'll start with more ice stuff. Um, they've, they've escalated their mission, whatever in, uh, Minnesota in response to that thing last week where they murdered someone and they're, they're quadrupling down on it. Um, there was a shooting as well, an ice shooting in Oregon where they shot it. A married couple, I believe, who was trying to get away in a car and then they like shot at the car and then wandered off and the two people in Oregon had to go to the police and say hey we've been shot so that happened they are harassing people all over Minnesota dragging people out of their jobs really terrorizing neighborhoods ostensibly to keep them safe I guess is their argument oh and it is working yeah well

they safely are terrified of being dragged out of their homes by the secret police, because now they're going door to door. We talked about the door to door thing last week, because J.D. Vance has been bringing that up a lot. Yeah, they keep bringing up the door to door thing, which is normal and good, and we like it. It's a pretty straightforward Fourth Amendment thing, unless I'm mistaken, right? That's search and seizure.

You can't just knock on someone's door and ask them if they're a citizen, and ask them for their papers. They're papers. Oh, you don't think we should go door to door asking people's papers? I mean, it seems obvious. It seems silly to kick off the podcast saying it's illegal in the United States

to just knock on someone's door. If you have no reason to believe that a criminal act has been committed, you have no warrant to just be like, papers, please. I don't even think they're saying please at this point. I would posit they're probably not even saying please. They're just holding up a sign

like in Love Actually that says papers. Papers now. Papers now. To me, you are. detained. Yeah. And we can, once that's made legal, we can call those Alito stops or whatever. Yeah. Once they say that it's actually good that they're doing that. There's a, there's a lot of different kind of facets of this stuff this week. Fashists? There's so many different fascists to this. And the ways that MAGA is trying to continue to justify the murder of Renee Good and also just everything.

Everybody and anybody they love, they can't wait for more murder of citizens. They don't even know what you shouldn't do. They or should do. This is not a national news figure. This is just a Twitter weirdo named Brandon Straca. But this exact belief is being echoed in the news media by like members of the Trump administration. We'll get to that in a second.

So this guy, Brandon Straca, says, This woman lost her life because she was fully gripped by years of media indoctrination that told her that she's living in 1930s Germany and interfering with ice is akin to fighting Hitler's Nazis. Her death is tragic for many reasons, starting with the fact that it was totally avoidable, but mostly because she sacrificed her life for a belief that isn't real. She is yet another casualty of the brainwashed cult of the American media.

So she's a victim of something. for sure. She's the victim of some, it seems like her belief that we're living in a papers, please, 1930s, Germany secret police type society is proven, she, she sacrificed herself for the belief that isn't real after the secret police, uh, execution style murdered her. Shot her in the face. Um, so that's the kind of argument we're dealing with. And that's just, some guy, but I really would like to compare it to what we saw on

the television this weekend on Meet the Press from Bordersar Not a Real Job, Tom Homan. We need to let this play out, but while we're doing that, we've got to stop the hyperedic. Saying this officer's a murderer is dangerous. It's just ridiculous. It's just going to

it's going to infuriate people more, which means it's going to be more incidents like this, Because the hateful rhetoric's not only continuing, now it's tripled down and doubled down. That's the same argument, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's shootings will cease when morale improves. Yeah.

Like, it's, first of all, maybe we needed a different border czar. He's a little better on camera. I struggled a little bit. Some of his... The hateful reddick is very dangerous. It's going to infreariate people. It's going to infreariate everybody. It's fine.

Petty stuff. But yeah, it's this whole attitude. We saw an example on Twitter. There's so many of them basically just sort of like, yeah, you're supposed to be, you're supposed to be fearful of law enforcement in America. And if you have no fear, then you should die so that other people do fear them. And that is what they all are saying. That is the implication of any J.D. Vance tweet talking about how we're being gasoline or whatever. And he's saying, oh, yeah, these deranged left.

need to sort of learn their lesson is what they're all implying. But it's not bad and it's not authoritarian. There's no fascist state going on. But we will shoot you dead. If you question our authority. If you get in front of a car, you deserve to be shot. Although, or no, wait, wait, what is it? We don't know. So there's this tweet, again, just like the slop of Twitter, which is just everything now. There's a account showing a video of these ice agents in a car and then protesters are in front of the car, stopping the car and the caption is,

are these people suicidal referring to the people in front of the car? But I thought you're actually, it's okay if you're in front of the car, but if you're in the car and you run into the person that's in front of your car, then the person in front of your car can shoot the person driving the car because it's out of self-diform. defense, they're hitting the people with the car.

So that was a lawful law enforcement car blocking. Exactly. Or is the situation actually, well, the state can do whatever they want. They have a monopoly on violence, obviously, and they're going to strike you down with all of their power and resentment that they have for, again, you'll see all these tweets like, this is the face of all the condescending teachers I ever had growing up. They are just mad at their mean mom. Yeah, they're trying to get back at the school marms in their heads.

Meanwhile, they elected a fucking school marm as their vice president. Like, that's all he does is this scoldy school marmery. So I don't know what they want. Oh, just they want that, but a man doing it. Yeah, if I'm in a meeting and I'm talking, I expect JD Vance to just stare at me until I stop. And it'll be like, oh, okay. fine, whatever. We saw, and we're not going to play any of them because there's too many and they all show

the same thing. Ice agents like threatening people in the same way that Renee Good was shot, saying things like didn't you people learn your lesson? Like you're going to get your, you're going to get people hurt. You're going to get yourself hurt. Ice agents, some of whom aren't even wearing masks, which is good because they can be identified, but it's threatening people. They, like, had Jonathan Ross not been wearing a mask, like, he was identified as the shooter

within a day or two, but, like, why you even need to wear a mask, man? Nothing's going to happen to you. Yeah, you're fine, actually. Everyone knows what Kyle Rittenhouse looks like. He's just living his life. Yeah, he's living his life suggesting that he goes and shoots more people at these protests, incidentally, because that's what we do today. that's all we do now.

And then joking about like food being poison or whatever because now he's trying to find out what he... Yeah, he was doing some like Maha stuff this weekend just to be like, is this an angle for me? That'll do it. Actually like me. You got to find something, buddy.

Yeah, what's the thing? Oh, oh, that's what another thing we wanted to talk about is the confusion as to why Renee Good's wife, Becca, hasn't been all over TV, explaining her side of the story. She must know she's culpable because she isn't out there sharing her side of the story. But not everyone's Erica Kirk. Not everyone is desperate to make themselves some sort of a culture war figurehead to come out on stage with sparks and everything. Some people, and look, mourning can take a lot of different, you know, you're being very generous now.

It's no one, grieving is a process for everybody. how to mourn, but some people kind of want to be by themselves and sit with that because of how devastating it is. Yeah, I think it's reasonable to not demand that the partner of this woman shot in the face by the state isn't going out there and defending herself or defending Renee or defending anything and making it about herself because not everybody needs to create a body. brand off of a horrible tragedy. But, you know, takes all kinds. Obviously, there's a certain way of thinking on the right with a lot of these things.

And it should be obvious. Well, you're all saying that they deserved it. You're all saying that they asked for it and should have been shot and killed. And you're looking for a public enemy. So maybe she doesn't want to go out there and give you a target. which you are clearly looking for more of. Well, yeah, I mean, she would reasonably be afraid of becoming a target for a mob of violent maniacs.

Some include ice, some don't include ice. Right, some are members of the state threatening you with violence and some are randos on the internet threatening you with violence, but I would find it uncomfortable to be threatened with violence by anyone in any capacity. Reasonable. And that is what, I mean, It's what we are seeing everywhere all the time, but it's just this conflation, this merging of like, yeah, like online people who want engagement and then also like true believers who are like Nazis.

And then there's like, you know, there's the spectrum of grifter to really means it to just, you know, the cat turds of the world. I don't even know how you categorize them in the bad category, probably. But they all talk about the same thing. And this goes all the way up to JD fans, which is just justifying. the deaths of their perceived enemies. And many times that perceived enemy is just like liberal white woman who makes me mad about my feelings from my childhood or whatever it is. And they just keep justifying it.

Like you said, there are all these videos we don't need to show them of ICE agents being like, yeah, like, what are you doing? I'm going to shoot you. And we're not going to play this video either. I alluded last Thursday to the fact that we're probably never going to see the video that that guy is filming in one hand while shooting with the other. We got to see the video. And it is another example of just like if you if you had a if you had a belief beforehand, that's what you still

believe the other way around. Like that is no one saw it was like, wow, he shouldn't have shot that woman. They just were like, everyone doubled down on it. I feel like watching that video because I watched it so many times to try to see again granularly like could I see what they're seeing yeah and they seemed so confident that this was like the ultimate vindication video

and it seems like there was a direct by the book murder yeah it seems like there was a directive this is the vindication so that you have to say that no matter what and I mean, I happen to agree with the sentiment that they don't actually think it did that and it was more to create

enemies out of these women. Yes. Like, oh, people will be on board once they see these, you know, mean, how the lesbians were being mean to the cops. That's what they wanted. Like, see, they're not on your side. They're the, this is part of the culture war. This is not a thing we have to worry about in terms of murder. You don't have to worry about it.

It's just the state doing culture war stuff. And you know all those people that make you mad online or like at Starbucks. Well, guess what? You can watch more justification for it. It is like, it's so frustrating because you do see like Vance quote tweeted the video. Everyone when that came out was like, see, we were right. It's like, did you watch the video? It's just.

To the end? To the end, exactly. Where he, uh, I don't want to say it. I mean, no, so that's the thing. Like, yeah, like, that's sort of what I'm getting to where, like, you have this video and it gives everybody the thing that they want, not everybody, but everybody who wants these people to die. Uh, it gives them those moments of, wait a second.

And it's, it's first person perspective, too. So when J.D. Vance quote tweets, it's like, this and this shit and this, all he's seeing is this liberal white woman who. who makes him think of all the people that make him mad. He's seeing them in the camera belittle an authority figure casually. Like, they're mocking the person in the camera. And one thing fascist hates so much is being mocked. They hate the sound of laughter, especially from a woman.

They cannot handle it. And it makes them so mad that they are glad that the woman got shot. And so when he watches it, he's just thinking. thinking like, well, that could be me. That's me. I'm being mocked, actually. And it's gratifying. There's another clip of him back when he co-hosted one of Charlie Kirk's podcasts. And he is talking about how when he was at Disneyland with his kids, like there are all these people yelling and being like, you should, your dad sucks and all this sort of stuff. And it's just all of this resentment for the position that he has put himself in by aligning with.

his words, America's Hitler. And so when he's out at Disneyland, he's... Possibly America's Hitler. Maybe. Maybe. He could have been the other... Useful idiot or whatever he said.

He could have been a useful asshole like Nixon. Maybe he decided us both. I don't know. One or the other for sure. And so when he's at Disneyland and these people are shouting like, your dad sucks. Whatever.

All he's thinking is like, just try it. I want... He wants the Secret Service to shoot them. He wants those people to suffer as well. And as you alluded to, then you watch the video to the end. And after he shoots the woman dead, he calls her a fucking bitch. That's who they are.

That's why when we see all these other videos of Ice Age just being like, what are you going to do? I'm going to, you're going to, you shouldn't be acting like this because you're going to get shot. Do you see what, have you checked the news? All of these guys are itching for it. They all want an excuse. and they're warning you that they all want an excuse when JD says, yeah, we're gonna get people online to go door to door.

No, you're gonna get people online who want to go door to door to start problems so that they can have an excuse to fulfill their fucked up little fantasies about going to door to door and shooting people. It's so clear from that video that um, uh, Beka Good was mocking him

So you should go get some lunch or something. And then Renee Good says, I'm not even mad at you. And he feels condescended to and he's clearly angry about it. And they want us to believe that he went from just doing my job,

cool as a cucumber, to fearing for his life, to being angry enough to say what he said immediately after murdering her. And I don't think that's reasonable to believe. I think he was just angry

and he decided to shoot the person he was angry at. And he felt good about it to the point where after he shot her dead, he called her a fucking bitch like he meant to do that. Yeah, it's very, very obvious what's going on there.

But that first half when they're mocking the person in the camera, which could be you. Have you thought about that? That could be you being mocked. It's really, really gross. Also, I've seen like, fucking fans again, just being like, and this officer was already traumatized

from an incident on the job earlier. Well, then he shouldn't be on the job. If he's traumatized and clearly, easily, for lack of a better word, triggered, then he shouldn't be on the job. No, that's what they're saying. They're trying to be like, wokeness is still cool as long as we can be woke. Actually, like, he was so traumatized. It was this emotional trauma from the time he punched through the guy's window that he,

oh, so you're saying he's too emotional to do this? They're all too emotional for the job. They just can't see it. All right. Should we move? To transition us? Should we each take a sip of coffee? I would love to take a sip of coffee right now.

Let's do that. All right. Let's talk about war. Oh, God. Let's talk about maybe going to. Can I have one more sip of coffee? So listen, there's a chance we won't go to war with any of these people, but we could go to war with Iran. We could go to war with Greenland, Greenland that doesn't have an army, or we might just bomb Mexico somewhat.

Oh, and to qualify, I want to clarify and something elseify, I want to make clear that we might not go to war with any of these. countries. Oh, right. I should have specified. It's not war. But we will be doing acts of war. Definitely, I would say. I think that if we don't go to war with these countries, it's because of their response, which would be like, well, I don't want to go to war with the United States because they know and we know, Trump knows, well, we're the United States. Well, we're the United States. And we're the United States. We can do whatever we want. We've been bombing boats of fishermen. We kidnapped a president. We are going to do acts of war across the globe and who's going to stop us is the position. And he's been right so far. He has been right so far. Nobody has stopped him. He's been able to

get in and get out with all of these things. And the approval, at least from his base for doing those things shoots up as soon as he does them and they start justifying it all that he'll keep Kamala's going to send your sons to war and Trump won't they never cared at all it's so embarrassing for them and they're pretending that it was always about like no we like quick strikes those are good quick war is great we just didn't want to get mired down for decades so as long as that doesn't happen it's so pathetic it's like yeah the obviously the forever part of forever war is is one of the bad parts. It's not the only bad part of it.

It's not like, well, if we did all this in Iraq, then it would have been fine if it lasted like only a month or two. Like regime change, all these things are good, the extraction of other nations resources and wealth. And that's all good and fine, as long as we do it quickly. Which, again, he's talked about before. Yeah, so the most recent ones are he,

suggested we might take some sort of military action against Iran because Iran is killing peaceful protesters in the streets during their days of surging protest. Yes, Cody. Is he just jealous? This is something he's certainly wanted to do for years. He really wants to do that. Why would he want to stop? He has suggested regularly that they should be run over, beat the hell out of them, many you know he he thinks he he does not see himself as the president of 340 million Americans he sees himself as the president of like a hundred and twenty million people generously yeah yeah generously and any of the rest of the other two-thirds of the country that decides to speak out he's like why can't the what was it uh in 2020 why can't they just

shoot the protesters in the leg oh yeah should be a leg uh sure the leg take them out of the equation uh obviously with looting starts the shooting starts. That's not that's not protesters. That's looters. Um, yeah, shooting in the leg, um, uh, more lethal. Uh, he wants to, he just like wants to rough people up more. And, um, the, they're making it more legal to just like they've, they've, like, everyone's always like, I wish we could run over protesters. Like, that's their thing. So, but he can't, he wants to, he wants to attack Iran again and he can't come up with any other reason to do so. So right now, it's like, well they're being so mean to the

seething jealousy and they are like to be clear Iran has slaughtered hundreds of protesters thus far and Trump has not done that there's a difference yeah I don't

yeah I don't want to force this through the lens of just like how does America feel about Iran's protests you know but it's because Trump does not he's not yet confident enough that he has the authority to do that

he knows that they probably won't yet maybe but they've done everything he's asked so far so are we getting closer I think he's I think he's jealous and obviously you know all the support in the world to the people in Iran have been in the streets since late December demanding the end of the authoritarian regime it's a dangerous thing to do I hope the killing there stops but I don't think Trump bombing them is going to help much. Oh, it seems like you would

probably kill more people and cause and even worse conflict and more people would die. Well, maybe, maybe, maybe we'll just invade Greenland instead. Can we just like buy it instead? Yeah. Like, we have to like, I'll compromise, just buy it.

Yeah, I think he's going to make it seem so much like we're going to invade them that everyone will just be like, just buy it and we'll be okay with it. I think that is definitely in the cars. It really does seem like that they're just like, just like leaves alone. Anyway, based on a daily mail story this weekend,

which is daily mail, but also daily mail, because of the success they feel of the Maduro operation, he has asked the military to prepare an invasion plan for Greenland, which the Joint Chiefs of Staff have pushed back against because, Buh. And the quote from the story is they have tried to distract Trump by talking about less controversial measures such as intercepting Russian ghost ships, a clandestine network of hundreds of vessels operated by Moscow to evade Western sanctions or launching a strike on Iran. So when war with Iran is the helpful distraction from invading Greenland, you know you're in

deeper waters than we've ever been before. Oh, I thought you were going to stay in good hands. Dang. Oh, no, we're not in good hands. It's all Trump. You're in good hands. Oh, gosh. Speaking of the Daily Mail, just a side note to button up a previous conversation,

the Daily Mail also had a piece recently about ICE recruits and how truly incompetent they all are. Yes. And how many of them, unfortunately, can't read or write. and a lot of them have tattoos associated with gangs and Nazis and they're all just ready to shoot folks. Who else would show up? Who else would show up?

I know it's tough out there. I know the economy's rough, but there's only one kind of person showing up to get that $30,000 signing bonus with ice. We already have troops. We can already have. troops in Greenland, by the way. Like, it's unclear. Oh, yeah, no. Yeah. Like, we, there's, there's, we can have, we can have, we can have, we can have, we can have our military, basically

anywhere. Like, we're like, there's about, there's about, uh, uh, 56,000 people who live in Greenland. And according to reports, we're either going to invade them and trample on the, the towns where they live, or give them each $100,000. to get them on board, which would be, let me do this real quick. Yeah. $56 billion is what that would cost to give everyone in Greenland $100,000. Well, we can find that money. We just need a month more a doge and we can find that money.

According to President Trump, you can't run out of money, if I'm being honest. We print the money, so you can't ever run out of it. Oh, our honest. I know he said it 10 years ago once, but I didn't. Yeah, but we know it's still down. It's still deep down there. Early proponent of modern monetary theory, Donald Trump. Okay, should we talk about Jerome Powell?

Yeah, I was going to say, speaking of the economy, I'm thirsty for another sip of coffee. Oh, that helped. It did. That was great. It always does. All right, news. Are we good? Is the economy going well?

Is the president handling it well? Is he handling it normally? Is anything, is there a normal, is normal story? Normal story. We're going to end with a normal story, yes? Yes, yes. Yeah. So over the weekend, the New York Times reported that federal prosecutors have opened an investigation into federal reserve chair Jerome Powell because of this, the building expansion.

And they're arguing they're going to investigate if he lied to Congress about the scope of the renovation of the central banks Washington headquarters. and oh, it's costing so much more than we thought, and you, Jerome Powell, we're intimately involved in it, and we're going to get you on this. Clearly a ridiculous political attempt to pressure him into lowering interest rates. I mean, the president hates when people lie to Congress.

But Powell, he's not your standard member of Congress or president of Harvard or someone who just rolls over. He released a two-minute, minute video statement straight out saying that this is a political investigation because we that we at the Federal Reserve are doing what we think is best for the economy and the American people, not doing what the president wants. This new threat is not about my testimony last June or about the renovation of the Federal Reserve buildings. It is not about Congress's oversight role. The Fed, through testimony and other public disclosures, made every effort to keep Congress informed about the

renovation project. Those are pretexts. The threat of criminal charges is a consequence of the Federal Reserve setting interest rates based on our best assessment of what will serve the public, rather than following the preferences of the president. This is about whether the Fed will be able to continue to set interest rates based on evidence and economic conditions, or whether instead monetary policy will be directed by political pressure or intimidation. I have served at the Federal Reserve under four administrations, Republicans and Democrats alike. In every case, I have carried out my duties without political fear or favor, focused solely on our mandate of price stability and maximum employment. Public service sometimes requires standing firm

in the face of threats. I will continue to do the job the Senate confirmed me to do, with integrity and a commitment to serving the American people. Thank you. it's pretty good yeah I mean for like I didn't expect to get kind of hyped by the 72 year old chair of the Federal Reserve like not typically where I go to sure get juiced up yeah you got to get it where you can get it though it works and pretty pretty good statement pretty good pushback yeah very very clear about how this is obviously a political, this is political, obviously, and there's no merit here, and he's mad that I'm not doing the thing that he wants, which he's not allowed to tell me what to do, actually. And he makes it

very clear, like, just, it's also, I mean, it's not useful for many people, obviously, in the MAGA world, but just making it clear, like, this is, we point this out all the time, I'm just a serious guy with a serious job. I've done this serious guy job under repubes. Republicans and under Democrats. I've, I've, I'm a serious man with a serious job for decades. This isn't about like, oh, I, I'm, I got my blue hair and my, my, I'm a, I'm a barista at heart. No, it's just, he's just a guy doing his job. And Donald Trump doesn't want serious people to do their serious jobs. He wants them to do whatever he says, because he only rewards loyalty to one person. And finally, Powell was like, ah, we're not going to do this actually. I mean, maybe they will. We'll see how it goes. But at least he came out and very directly said, what is going on? And like it really crumbles the entire, because what they're trying to say is that this is actually, you know, very pro-democratic giving all the power to Trump because the people elected him. And so he's just doing what the people want. I don't think. And this is not, you know, to take shots at the intelligence and the.

understanding the American people I should also have no reason to know what the Federal Reserve does or why I'm not an economist I'm not in that field whatever but I don't think they elected him to pressure this guy to lower interest rates

because reasons some might have yeah sure a few people I think the basic like the vague umbrella of like well I elected Donald I voted for Donald Trump because I wanted to tell everybody what to do Yeah. Yeah.

But it really makes it crumble because what if that singular person stops or never had the best interests of the American people in mind? That's why it might help to have independent agencies staffed with career civil servants of every political affiliation to simply do the job of boring-ass job as we always talk about of keeping the government working. And sometimes, you know, they get a little bogged down. sometimes they stray. You might have to say, okay, like, what's the, what are we really trying to do here at the, you know, Department of Agriculture? Okay, you know, bureaucracy. We've all seen Brazil. Like, you need to have that kind of independence.

And we will see if the Supreme Court sticks to its guns on the Federal Reserve is different. And Trump can't just do whatever he wants there because of the long history of independence of the central bank. bank will make up a way for him to not touch the money. But it's coming, it's almost, it's going to be hard to avoid Trump touching the money. Oh yeah. I mean, this is the one of the, I mean, there's so many versions of this, but this is one of the showdowns, right? Where like, we're slowly inching towards he clearly wants to do this. And Powell's like, well, no, you can't threaten me with like some fucking like other thing. I'm not, that's not how this works. And, And they're, they are slowly inching towards like, okay, but what does Alito have to say about this?

What are we going to, like, let's like, let's get down to business, actually. We got to take care. We got to take care of this, please. Yeah, maybe Alito doesn't care as much about the S&P 500 as the rest of you. He's good. He's got all of his investments in Gadsden flags or whatever the hell. Right. They have.

They're flying. Yeah, like how locked in are they of like, yeah, just do whatever. We got, we got ours. We're done. We don't, yeah. Yeah. We're old. What am I going to be poor? No, I'm the Chief Justice or the Associate Justice. Maybe he's upset that Roberts gets the top gig. Who knows what goes on in these freaks minds? The law and only the law. Yeah. Well, all right. Shall we take one extremely long sip of coffee? I don't think we can call it a sip anymore and close out here.

I think we should chug this coffee real quick. Okay. It's real hot, but I'll know. Mine's pretty lukewarm, so. Okay. It's too hot. It's too hot for me to, I have a mug heater here, so. I understand.

Mine was too. I said lukewarm. It was cold. No. It's okay. The episode's over. Yep. Thanks everybody so much for joining us today.

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