Some More News - Even More News Ice Murder In Minneapolis

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

Hi. On today's episode, comedy writer Rachel Van Nes (IG: vannes.expressions) joins Katy, Cody, and Jonathan to discuss the murder of Renee Nicole Good by an ICE agent in Minneapolis and the Trump administration's ludicrous attempts to justify it. Plus, they talk about how Elon Musk is bizarrely not in prison for, among other things, allowing (and joking about) his chatbot's ongoing digital abuse against women and children.Also, it's our 400th episode of EMN!Note: Rachel's audio is rough during the intro, but it gets fixed after a few minutes.And as always, we recorded right before that big thing that happened.PATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comYOUTUBE MEMBERSHIP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/join#ICE #JDVance #evenmorenewsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hi, everyone. On today's episode, we go through the ICE murder in Minneapolis, the vice president's disgraceful attempts to justify it, and Grok's ongoing digital abuse of women and children. Okay, it's a good one. Hey, hello, welcome back to Even More News, the first and only news podcast. My name is Katie Stoll. It so is. I'm Cody Johnston. that's my name. I'm saying hello to you, Katie, and everybody listening and all the people here as well, what's going on with you? What's going on with me? What's going on with me is we've got an excellent first-time guest on our show today, comedy writer, including for a little

show called Some More News, who also happens to be a very talented cartoonist. Ladies and gentlemen, we have Rachel Van Ness. The crowd goes wrong. Thanks for having me. Thanks for being here, Rachel. This is a heavy news day. But we'll get through it together. And also, Jonathan is still here.

I messed that up, but people get the idea. Close enough. No, we're good. Hi. Is Annie saying, no, we're good. Hi. The thing he always says, perfect. Yeah.

Well, because she always says, I mess that up and I always go, no, you're good. Hi. Exactly. It's right there in the shirt. And we have some holidays. to celebrate. And boy, is it a doozy on today of all days.

Meaning Friday, the 9th? Friday, January 9th is National Law Enforcement Appreciation Day. No. Crickets. I reject. So let's just move on to a different holiday, shall we? Okay. Saturday, January 10th is something we can all get behind.

National House Plant Appreciation Day. Finally. Guys, I have so many houseplants. How many house plants do you have? And are any of them part of law enforcement? No. This one's fake. Which is why it's hiding behind the drums.

So it's fake. There are other ones. You don't need to hide the fake plant. Rachel's background is a nice foam green, reminiscent of algae. Algae, a little seaweed. I'm a plant step parent. And that my boyfriend Garrett takes care of all of the plants in our house, and I only take care of them when he's gone, and I'm really resentful about it. Oh, interesting.

I love that they're here. I just don't want to take care. That's appreciation. That's plant appreciation. And you keep them alive when he's gone, so. It is a whole thing, the keeping them alive. Alive enough, yeah. I get really tender where, like, usually I don't think about him, but then when they're in my room, I was looking. making eye contact with a giant crazy yellow bear plant. I think that

it's not until he's gone that I'm like, he wouldn't know if I didn't water them maybe, but then I'm like, but they're alive and they're just babies. I know. That's the thing. They are alive. They hear you. They know how you're feeling. Yeah, they listen to my music.

They do listen. They do, I think. Well, in their way. My cousin says, my cousin swear It loves plants. And there was this one time when she was doing something, and a plant fell off of the window sill behind her. And she swears that she heard it scream,

and she turned around and caught it. That's awesome. She appreciates her. Haven't seen her in like 20 years, but it. Well, at least you remember one good thing. Well, that was a fun diversion for a couple minutes. We all love plants. But now it's time to talk about.

things that we do not love. So, yeah, we're going to talk about the shooting of 37-year-old Renee Nicole Good by an ICE agent in Minneapolis on Wednesday morning. Most people out there have probably seen the video or all of the videos by now. So you know she was acting as a legal observer when ICE agents approached her car for an unknown reason. And then one of them shot at her three times when she tried to leave. the shooter identified by the Minnesota Star Tribune as Jonathan Ross fled the scene within two minutes and he remains at large.

He should have fled the scene before he shot the person. That would have been preferable. Just get out of the way. Well, as he could have done, as there was no obstruction in the road, as we know from her waving other cars through. I honestly got plenty of things to say, but it's just there's nothing to debate here. hear about what happened. And yet we are, or they are, people are online debating what happened, but we have multiple videos of this incident, this murder from different angles.

She's trying to back up. She's trying to leave cars pass by. There is no blocking. She didn't hit the man. There's one angle where it seems like she's clearly turning away from him. He, you know, like clearly trying to turn away from him. And it's a hectic scene. There's people yelling at you.

There's people waving you. You're trying to do your best. And then you get shot in the fucking face. I also heard that one officer was like, get out of your car. And the other one was like, keep going. This is what I mean, right? You're like, and in a situation like that. Why didn't she comply with whoever?

I'm flustered by being pulled over, you know. And you've got all this heated thing and you don't know what to do. But the point is, is there's just. There's no justification for it. We'll get to this, but very clearly on their guidelines is not to directly approach a vehicle from the front to come from the left or come from the side. There are specific things that they're trained or supposed to be trained in how to handle situations like this. And they did not do any of that. You know what we got to do.

It'll solve this. Better training for ICE agents. I don't do it. Yeah, we're not going to show the video, as Jonathan said, like, you've seen it probably. If you want to watch it, you know. I guess don't take our word for it. Go and watch. Don't watch it. Yeah. We, I feel comfortable just, because you're going to see, you've seen, we've all seen a lot of people out there, including the vice president. Say, just say outright she was trying to run him over. And I feel comfortable.

just putting up on the screen an image from the video where he is to the left of the car and her tires are turned all the way to the right, indicating that she probably wasn't trying to run him over, and maybe

that's a lie from said vice president. But it is really, really obvious what's going on. I just feel like J.D. Vance just pulled the ultimate, like, well, she was asking for it. That is what they are doing. That is 100%.

It is their method now seems to be like, well, if an officer, ICE agent, whoever, kills somebody, we're just going to find reasons why it's okay. We're just going to look for enough reasons, whether it be a pronoun or other. They will justify anything like this.

He could have shot her from 30 feet away. Yes. And we would have gotten J.D. Vance on TV today trying to explain to us how it was her fault. 100%. They are in the business. of promoting and encouraging and wanting state violence against, and excusing state violence against citizens.

That is what they are in support of right now. It is very, very obvious. And yeah, they'll, oh, the radical leftist who tried to run him over. Do you know anything about her? Did she try to do that? Is any of this true? No, none of it's true. Really, really disgusting people.

Yeah. I spent some time last night reading through specifically what the law says and even what a jury would be looking at if they ever caught this person you don't need to look into the law right and and like all of these things like well well you'd have to determine

if each shot of the gun is justified so even if you think the first one was then the others that came through the driver's side window wouldn't have been and like and that's all very like interesting and I'm not knocking the people who are doing those kind of like

thought experience basically but it made me very like sad because it's tempting for someone like me to try to prove that I'm right through the facts that we all have access to and the reality that we all know it's true and the fact is it does not matter and we're going to get the same song and dance either way and the odds of this person ever being on trial for murder is almost zero and like And I'm not saying like the, the, those laws aren't important and that jury shouldn't be looking at all these different facets and making these decisions. And the fact is it's just like it's, it's a useless exercise for those of us who can recognize reality. Yeah, it's very, it is depressing. And like, you know, I, hopefully, um, the law does what it's there to do. And those sort of, uh, things do matter. But when you have, again, like all government officials, including the vice president. going out there and being like, yeah, she obviously tried to run them over. There's a self-defense at the end.

Like, what about the law? It is very demoralizing to know that they don't care and they don't want any of that process to happen. They're the enemies of due process and justice and the American people, it seems. There is obviously a different way to handle this. And still, whatever, maintain their objectives, but you could be saying, like, this is unacceptable. This is not how we do things in America. an American citizen. But obviously they wouldn't do that.

But it just feels, yeah, it's overwhelming feeling that there's absolutely no recourse that we watch these horrific things from multiple angles. And there's literally nothing anybody can do about it. And I'm thinking about the video footage also of the aftermath. There's one clip that's been circulated of a doctor that was on the scene, begging to have access to her, and they didn't let him. They waited for the paramedics to arrive. Like 10 or 15 minutes?

They couldn't get through. Don't care. We got EMS coming. I get it. Just give us a second. We have medics on feet. We have our own medics. Where are they?

Where are they? Well, they had some standing around to get to. They had some standing around to get to. And her wife, Renee's wife, was in the car with her. And videos of her just screaming on the sidewalk talking about how she doesn't know anybody here. I don't know what to do, you know. Like, it's very terrifying. And unfortunately, it's what we've talked about so much over these past months of what will be happening.

What is the natural result of all this tension, of all this dehumanization that's been happening all over the country. Anyway, I'm depressed. It's chilling to recognize that if you're caught in one of these circumstances, like she had just dropped off her six-year-old son at school, was driving home, sees that there's an ice operation, I'm going to stop here in film, and then within hours, your government is branding you a domestic terrorist, a violent rioter who weaponized her vehicle.

Like the machine does not care, and it goes into overdrive, as it has to, the way, you know, the way everyone felt during January 6th, the way everyone felt when they first saw the George Floyd footage, and that event happened less than a mile from where this one happened, they have to work really, really hard to, make you not believe your eyes and ears.

And of course they've got tens of millions of people ready to say, okay, good, that's the line. We're doing it. Well, and it's the thing where it's like this administration has promised, like, we are going to get the criminals. And they're like, how are we going to do it? Kill innocent people and tell you retroactively that they were criminals. They deserved it. We didn't know at the time, but luckily. And just being a leftist, it's also using that.

Oh, she's a deranged leftist who tried to run him over is the line. Again, from the vice president. Do you have pity for this deranged leftist? They don't care. No, they don't care. It's, yeah, it's terrifying. Normally on social media, the administration and their little Department of War account and all these accounts that represent the United States are a lot more glib.

And like doing the memes and they're like laughing and they're like the like the la ha we're evil do something about it cucks. But when this happened, they all were like serious tone time. Here's what happened actually. And here's the like they know that it looks really, really, really bad. And they had to go into this mode. Vance is tweeting like these five like his five point reasoning of why this is actually gaslighting. And it's like first of all, shut up. But like they they like they know it's bad.

they sent him out to do a press conference about it because who we're going to get? The Smarmy Liar who said that Trump was Hitler four years ago. Let's get him out there to lie and whine the whole time, which he did successfully, I guess, because they know it looks really, really bad. New York Times interviewed Trump, and this is fascinating look into the machine that we're talking about. A quote from Trump, she behaved horribly. And then she ran him over.

She didn't try to run him over. she ran him over. First of all, that didn't happen at all. Like, at all. Run him over. Are you sure? Because Trump was there.

Oh, I didn't know. He's there. He's got eyes everywhere. Well, they did. New York Times never gives me the information I need. It's a miracle he's alive. Are you fucking kidding me? It's hard to believe he is alive is such an insane thing.

It's like they keep saying like she ran him over. What? It's like when they say that Trump got shot in the head. Oh, then I don't think you got. that shot in the head. And so clearly Trump has been told by his vice president and his little worm tongue, Stephen Miller, that she tried to run him over and she ran him over. He almost died.

And he's like, okay, well, that's the line. And that's what I'm told. And that's what I believe. To continue in this New York Times piece, as a slow motion surveillance video of the shooting played on the laptop, we told him that this angle did not appear. to show an ICE officer had been run over. Quote from Trump, well, I the way I look at it, I think

it's horrible to watch. No, I hate to see it. He didn't know. He didn't see it. He was told that she tried to run him over and that she successfully ran him over. And then they showed him the video and he's like, uh, I guess. Oh, no. All Trump had

seen before that was the far away video where it kind of looks like he jumps into. It doesn't matter. There's the one far. It was literally... Yeah, or... It was like grassy null footage. With a little car and a little Lego figure

and they were like, it was like this. And he's like, whoa, that's terrible. There's no time to get Brock to make something. Yeah, the animations that happen when you get a strike. Stephen, go to your room and get the micromachines. Yeah. No, it's, it's absurd. He didn't see the thing.

They're continuing to say, like they've kind of backed off because Christy Noem clearly when she first gave her statement in the hours afterwards. She hadn't seen the videos that indisputably dispute what she said because she's going on this domestic terrorism. She ran him over. He's got dogs to shoot. Did she not see it or she does not care?

There's just a talking point. Well, right. But now they're just doing well. She accelerated into him. And J.D. Vance in his, right, he gave his bullet points on Twitter. And then he said a bunch of lies on TV, one of which was, well, they, they keep doing this thing of like she was obstructing a reasonable legal law enforcement operation.

One, no, she was trying to leave and letting cars pass, which you can see from the waving. Also, J.D. Vance on that press conference said they were going door to door looking for illegal criminal aliens, which I don't think is the best way to go about it, even if it's something you want to happen. but also if they're going door to door on foot and knocking on doors how is being in your car in the street obstructing them you liar you you twerpey

awful liar that's so interesting he's really into this door to door idea he was on Fox News recently for an interview with Jesse Waters so you know it was good my favorite guy who sadly has not been thrown up on yet

but The day will come. I'm feeling a little nauseous. Where is he? Oh, here comes a throw up, Jesse. So Jay's talking about deportations will ramp up. What we've done is actually getting two and a half million illegal aliens out without any of the really big marquee things that we've been working on. That was just simple willpower and the President of United States coming in and saying this is done.

I think we're to see those deportation numbers ramp up as we get more and more people online. working for ice, going door to door, and making sure that if you're an illegal alien, you've got to get out of this country, and if you want to come back, apply through the proper channel. Is that how you want to do it, J.D? You want to get people online to join ICE? He wants to, like, is what he wants.

It was his little Nazi followers, and people he follows also, to join ICE and go door to door. And I guess shoot people in the face. To be fair, they would have just as much training as ice. So it is kind of the same day. It's perfect. Oh yeah, he's got his little like dark tumbler crowd that he wants to mobilize like all of his little fans.

His little soy Nazis. That's something I've been thinking a lot about lately, but especially since this news broke is just. And as we've talked about on the show, yeah, you get anybody who signs up the best of the best. No, just give them the signing bonus. Whomever is desperate enough for a job or who's desperate enough to shoot some fucking leftist in the face. Like, that's what they want, right? The most generous way you can interpret this would be that it's a chaotic situation, blah, blah, blah. And he fired off his firearm and was scared.

It's not okay. They're not trained for this. They're not prepared to handle situations like this. They are putting people's lives at risk. And they want to shoot people in the face. I mean, to be clear, that's the most generous interpretation. I read that apparently this same officer was in a situation prior where he had punched through a window and then was dragged by a car, like 50 feet or something. But I'm also sort of like, okay, if that's your trauma or whatever, you're going to process that?

Like, we're going to do some sort of like work to make sure that maybe you're not literally easily triggered when you're. and as a killer situation by a car again. Punching a window into a car is... It feels like he felt he was Captain America. Right. But then he's like, oh, I'm not. Now I got to be Captain America with guns. I would submit it's more traumatic

to have your window punched in, after which I feel like anyone would be understood if they hit the gas and tried to get out of there than being being dragged by the car that you've punched. Where in the ICE manual does it say you might need to punch through a window to one

prove you're a big strong tough guy and two get the you know get that criminal illegal who's going to work or whatever chapter two big strong tough guy there's another there's many

facets to this I wrote this whole like stupid I'm not going to read it like bullet pointed list of like questions for the officers. Things like why did you get in front of this person's car? Why were you filming with the phone? Et cetera, et cetera. Filming with the phone while shooting. Yeah, you got your phone.

It's tough this day and age. You got to have your tablet. You got to have your phone, your gun that you're dancing around with. Also, like, what do you, why do you, every time something like this happens, like, if they're running away, if they're driving away, why are you shooting them? Why are you trying to kill that person? like are they Osama bin Laden? I don't think they are.

Don't shoot this person. This was a liberal white woman who is the reason that we have a male loneliness epidemic, right? Like the whole weight of these pathetic freaks lives are, you know, they don't like the criminal illegals and they blame the liberal white women for ignoring them. But in those videos, I saw them yelling orders. I didn't see themselves like showing ID or identifying themselves as law enforcement. Not that ICE has the legal authority to tell you to get out of your car if you're just minding your own business.

However, all she sees is a bunch of like masked thugs coming at her. I think there's a lot of states in the country where you have every right to just run them over. If we're going with the thing that, oh, she intentionally tried to run them over, yeah, this was a masked thug. coming at her. I mean, if we're asking questions, I think they're really the important one. We're just asking questions here. Well, I think the important question

was asked by J.D. Vance earlier today on Twitter, which is every congressional Democrat, every Democrat who's running for president, everybody needs to be asked the following question. Do you think this officer was wrong in defending his life against a deranged leftist who tried to run him over? No, everything he said in his little tweet rant

is either directly contradicted by the video that everyone saw and anyone can see or is like whiny and twerpy. It's just the white twirp shit. Like it's... I can't even find it. The gaslighting is off the charts and I'm having none of it.

You know what? You BuzzFeed ass vice president. Like what the... Oh, God. Yeah, the more offended he acts at the press conference, the more you know you're right. He's like, I can't believe the media's.

Like, this is a... I've never seen anything like this before. She tried to run him over. question. Did she? It kind of reminds me of like an improv note which is like if you don't know what you're doing, just start crying and that'll make it about something. He's like he's doing the exact same thing. He's like, I can't win the argument so I'll basically throw a tantrum and maybe that will win it. Yeah, someone will come on. Yeah. J.D. Vance doesn't care about the truth or anything else. He's just like, I'm going to whine to win this fake argument that he knows. He knows. He knows. He knows.

That's what makes it even worse. We're not having a legitimate debate. Yeah. Yeah. All the response to another improv rule, which is don't just pull a gun out when you don't know what to do. Yeah. On stage. No, but it's the same rule book we see play out over and over again with these ghouls.

They love it. Just make the narrative whatever they want. Just keep, yeah, adding to it. Just add more. Just double down, double down, triple down. Put out whatever bullshit. going to be a portion of people that eat up their bullshit and will carry water for them. I don't know how this is playing out offline, though, because it's hard.

I always have to remind myself that when you look at people's reactions on Twitter, that is not real life. This is fucking gruesome. So I guess we'll see, but nothing, it's just so much chaos all the time. to know and then we move on to the next story and the next crisis and there's no time to recalibrate or see what's happening but

but I don't know that my point is that I don't know that these lies are working as well as they think but I also don't know if that matters or not. I can't like the video it doesn't matter if the lies are working they're just going to keep saying it well and also if you know the administration's proven anything with Minnesota it's that even if senators and their husbands

are killed, the White House just won't react and we'll sweep it under the rug. So like, we've already been taught that this stuff, at least to the administration, doesn't matter. Oh, yeah. It doesn't matter. The vice president

praised a guy and said he deserved a fucking, like, Pulitzer Prize. They don't care about any of this stuff. They just are obsessed with maintaining the power that they have managed to claw. they're weighing too. Like he,

the way, some of this reaction to, like, and also with the Venezuela's stuff, it's like, you don't, you don't think you're gonna ever not be in power,

do you? And like, some of it is, like, they just don't care and they know that that's like the method to continue,

but some of it is like, you really just think you're there and like you want and you're going to stay. Some of them are like, uh, or Elon Musk isn't even in the administration anymore, but he frequently brings up going to jail.

He frequently is like, if the GOP is ever not in power, I'm definitely going to jail. Probably because of all those crimes he's committed. I disagree. I don't think he's ever going to jail. No. I think if, you know, I think if Hassan Piker became president, he's not going to jail. But he certainly seems to talk about it a lot and it's a fear of his. It's probably why he's going to put.

A hypothetical that he can handle talking about. Because of all the crimes, again, that he is continually committing will get to. Yeah, we'll get to some of those. An ongoing crime that is being committed. Yeah, that he is laughing about that he loves, that he thinks is great. The DOJ says that the FBI is solely leading this investigation. Oh, good. What I understand, state investigators are kind of getting iced out.

They're going to have to request materials. So in, you know, transparency. I mean, they can request material from the video online that you can see. That is pretty much all you need. But, yes, they're getting frozen out. Bongino's on the scene. They're getting them back in. They're pulling them back.

Yeah, Bovino's on the scene. That's his name, right? Greg Bovino. That DHS dude who's everywhere at all of these things. He wore the Nazi coat. Oh, God, that guy. Nick, put him on the thing. Yeah, put a fucking Povino.

I think, like, one of the tough things about this is we're, uh, everyone has to come out there with all of their, like, points right away. And, um, we, like, there's an impulse to do. do that and I have like five pages of notes about this incident and you just want to like stop so you can like have a shred of humanity and realize that a human being um within a span of seconds like this happens so fast she's like already planning to leave and then this thing happens and within seconds someone who she maybe didn't even see because someone is yelling at her from here so someone she maybe doesn't even see kills her and like the human

of this human being is just completely lost. Yeah, because it just becomes this disgusting circus. Yeah, and everyone's like she deserved it, all this retroactive sort of demonization. Yeah, I genuinely feel sick about it. I wish I had something positive. There's nothing positive to say here. Hey, Ontario.

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stuff, it can feel good to watch someone insult the bad guys and then walk away. That probably didn't help, Katie. You probably were expecting something better. Sorry. I was, but I'll take it. That's true. It's nice to see people. You know what?

I feel catharted. Catherded. You totally. Who catharded? How did the show go today? Whoever smelted. You just totally catharted on there. Whoever felt it.

Felt it. All right. That's nice. People are mad. That's good. Be safe out there. Be nice. Don't be nice.

Be safe and responsible in your protesting. Be mean to them. But in a safe way. This is, you know, it's another just like moment of pure anger. I know you're trying to like wrap this up on a positive note. But it is sad to me mentally. Even hear you saying like, be safe, be nice. And I'm like, I can try, but it might not matter.

Yeah, I know. That's the thing. This was somebody trying to comply from what we understand, trying to back up, trying to get out of the way, trying to move her vehicle. And... Do you think we'll ever see that video? The one that the police officer was...

The one that he was filming when he fucking shot her. I would love to... I mean, I wouldn't love to see that video. Do you think the fuck were you filming? Why was he filming it? I don't know. I guess they just don't have body pants. You got a post.

You never see. Stop posting. You got to get that content, you know? The video begins with another ice car going around her and leaving. Well. It opens with the thing happening that they said couldn't happen. But have you considered that she tried to run him over and did, and he's lucky to be alive? He is so lucky to be alive.

And also have you considered that the tank top she was wearing was a little revealing? Yeah. Think about that? Maybe if she were also a lucky, she would still be alive. Had she ever considered being a man, like even once, like just not being a woman in that situation? They really like shooting women in their cars. It's interesting to be in the hot seat for once. They, but they really do, like, it's all connected to part of their whole America isn't the way it should be.

and one of the reasons is that, like, liberal white women betrayed their white men. Like, they betrayed the social hierarchy. Feminism gave them too much power by being able to vote, and they voted with their emotions, and that's why we're in this mess is their position. And they seem to be of the mind that demonizing them's going to work in that, like, because they're not terribly popular

with women right now. The Trump administration, I mean. What? The GOP, not... But they're so disgusting. Not doing well. So maybe they're like, we're going to win women back by shooting them and then saying they're terrorists for being politically engaged at all.

So tell me, Jonathan. Why has there been such a huge presence of ice in Minnesota? is there some other ridiculous news story to shed light onto why they're really focused on? Yeah, you might remember. You get my point. No, keep it. Transition to you, Jonathan, if you could.

You may recall that they don't just hate white women or women in general, but they hate Somali Americans as well, especially in Minnesota because of the fraud that they exclusively commit in Minnesota because while we were on break this 23-year-old he calls himself an independent YouTube

journalist named Nick Shirley pranktuber a pranktuber a pranktuber posted a 40-plus minute expose about how all the daycares in Minnesota are doing fraud. They're like pretending to be daycares and getting federal funding, but they're not

really taking care of kids, and it's the Somalians who are doing it. And of course, this thing was debunked basically immediately. Like, he would either go when a daycare center was closed and be like, see, there's no kids in there, or go before the kids showed up, or see kids there, but then say that there was fraud going on because the workers wouldn't let him inside to film the little kids. Everyone's so fucking stupid. And they also know,

like, J.D. Vance says this guy's done more useful journalism than any of the winners of the 2024 Pulitzer Prizes. And he also knows, as everyone does, that this is nonsense. Doesn't matter. And so they surge ice in Minneapolis. J.D., do you think that Tim Walts?

got senators assassinated. Do you think he ordered the assassination? Do you think that, J.D.? Because that's what this Pulitzer Prize winning fucking pranktuber thinks, apparently. They're just so, it's so pathetic.

If it helps J.D.'s point of view, he'll believe it. Or whatever, he's trying to shove down people's throats. This whole thing is so fucking absurd. And it's such an obvious doubling down on the racism on the president's new favorite drum to bang on. Like, let me get out there. I'm a pranktuber.

I can expose these daycare facilities. And look, there has been fraud found post-COVID from, you know, in a lot of it. But they have been dealing with this. Minnesota has been actively investigating the different instances of fraud for a while now. this is a show to create a big spectacle and can't stress enough how this fucking kid doesn't have any evidence about anything

Yeah, he doesn't know It's like people They don't know what they're They don't like know things But they know that attention is what is the important part And so as long as they can get attention Like there's parts of his video where he's like going through this hallway He's like look at what's his health care company doing

And then there's another healthcare company in the next office. And he's like, yeah, you're in like a healthcare plaza. Like there are different companies in there. What are you talking about? Like, what are you confused about? And it's just as long as you get the attention and act like you don't know what's going on and you're fine with it and you're confident, then the vice president will say you did a great job and deserve a Pulitzer. And we're talking about it. So it worked.

He's being interviewed and embarrassing himself like that. like the Oklahoma University essayist. It's like, okay, we got the attention. You do your little culture point. You make a big deal out of it. Everyone's like, oh, we got to get everybody out of academia. And then you listen to her talk. And she's like, yeah, I did it at the last minute.

I didn't read the thing. And they just admit on camera that they deserve. Like, and they don't know. And it literally doesn't matter when you're, when you fail and you're humiliated. It's the same as like. Doge. Like, doge did nothing except, like, cancel programs that killed hundreds of thousands of people overseas. And then you don't cut anything from the budget.

You don't actually uncover any fraud. And then you leave the government. And then months later, you're on a podcast. And Elon Musk's like, oh, I think there's probably 12 squillion dollars with a fraud. And yet you didn't find a single example. Right. You couldn't find one. It doesn't matter.

It was a joke. You embarrassed yourself. You failed, Elon. your entire government program ended humiliatingly. You left said the president was in the Epstein files that you forgot about that. And now you're hanging out with them on New Year's. I'm burning my bridge with him. He's a pedophile actually.

Nope. I no longer believe that. Yeah, it's just like the nothing matters government. It's so they're so it's just like this mix of explicit white nationalists and just like nihilists. They just do like it doesn't fucking matter. They do not care. They just it's maddening. It's maddening. It's also really weird like just this like continued like weird conservative like myth of genius. Like they think they're like discovering all of these like up and coming trailblazers who are going to change absolutely everything. Like they're kind of like it's their

way of like still being very much like no we want our old toxic guard to be in control of things but also we're advocating for the super racist youth youth oh yeah yeah a leg up you know like and it's i think that part is weird where they kind of like they're kind of trying to position these like prank tubers as if they just discovered the next bill gates you know what i mean it's so weird like we're the reasonable adults and we know and like it's the like we're we're the we're in charge and now like we're going to set things right and and put things back in order. Also, have you seen Aidan Ross? He's amazing.

It's like, what do you? It's, that disconnect is so, it's so bizarre. But it fuels it fuels it because those guys are popular. Yeah, it's helpful. They like being praised and they like the attention. So they're going to lean into it. Yeah. Reach that demographic of younger dumdums that just want to watch their pranks.

tuber give them the news. Yeah. I also just love calling yourself. Oh. Sorry, but what you love calling yourself? I'm like, prank stress me out. Yeah. I'm delicate like that.

I'm a rule follower. But I think it's so funny, too, to call yourself like a serious journalist, but not to understand why maybe a child care wouldn't just let any random guy walk in. like especially did he film this he filmed this over the break right i'm not sure the timeline i'm not sure the timing but just in general daycare centers are not always open they aren't i was talking to somebody is like i don't know why isn't aren't daycare is always open i'm like no they aren't what are you talking about it's not an orphanage you drop off your children in the morning you pick them up in the afternoon i have a child in daycare i'm not allowed to just like walk

to a day kid as other kids like of course of course think and this is just like some smug dude who's like what well we're all the kids why can't I see the kids with their kids absolutely suspicious they won't let me sit in on story time yeah I'm just some guy I can't tell the kids that it was hungry caterpillar like what it's also just like the discovery like this is the discovery of all this stuff like this has been a case since like 2022 I think. Like this is like the fraud in Minnesota has been discovered. And they're like as soon as they get a whiff of like, oh my God, we could pretend that like this is our discovery and like we're going to take them down and we can link it to the Somalians in Minnesota. We can do all this sort of

stuff that is in service of just lying and racism. That's all they want to do. Let's be real. Yeah. I'm glad you brought it back around to the Somali aspect of this because this is literally what they're trying to create a stink and stir up xenophobia and paint a picture as if all of these Somali Americans in Minnesota are criminals, which is so obviously not true. But it's also because who's the governor of Minnesota who was up until last week running for re-elected. It's obviously retribution. There's like there's so many reasons why this checks are. all of Donald Trump's boxes. You get,

uh, you get to go after Elon Omar as well. Um, you shift over from, uh, the Haitians are eating the pets to this. Uh, again, uh,

Vans on Jesse Waters. So, exactly. It took care of it, um, by joking about it and then never talking about it again. The, uh,

his advances on, uh, Jesse Waters and he's saying, yeah, America has a bit of a Somali problem and then they laugh it up. That's all they, that's all they want to do. You know,

it's a little funny about this. Uh, a little, I read up on this and I was like, oh, like, let me just look into the child care fraud that did happen. I'm curious. And unfortunately, I hate to say it, one of my own was responsible. It was a white woman who led a lot of the child care fraud. Oh, the ringleader.

Yeah. She was there. Amy Bach was actually the ringleader. She did incorporate, unfortunately. a lot of Somalians into the fraud, but she was the ringleader. So this isn't even like, I don't know, I just think it's interesting.

Oh, yeah. That this is becoming a Somalian issue that was completely manufactured. Like, that child care fraud is already being dealt with. But they're like referring to it as if it was Somalian led, which it was not. It was led by this. Very explicitly.

White lady. Yeah, like a syndicate overseas is running this thing. You actually don't need to talk about the race of anybody involved, to be honest. It's irrelevant. Well, it was a white woman who did it. Rachel, for bringing up the white women. Not all white women. They're right to be suspicious.

My boss queen. She's like the fentanyl stuff. Like, oh, yeah, all these are they bringing in fentanyl. And then the fucking, the head of that police union was like running fentanyl. like it's just yeah in San Jose she was a white lady I believe hey I think we're I think we're on to something here you guys we're breaking it all open maybe we should hate white women yeah maybe they're onto something oh speaking speaking of misogyny I think we got to talk about these last few minutes to talk about GROC because we've been trying for several

now. Grock has been peppered with prompts all for weeks now of users who are asking to undress women and girls based on pictures on X so if you are a woman and you post a photo of yourself

on X people are asking Grock, hey put this woman in a bikini, take off her clothes and they are doing it to other people who have not posted their photos on X, including the 14 year old girl who plays Holly Wheeler on stranger things.

So, real gross. Including younger photos of Ashley St. Clair, who is the mother of one of Elon's children. It's awful. According to a third-party analysis that was conducted a few days ago, Grock,

at least as of a few days ago, was pumping out 6,700 sexually suggestive or nudifying images every hour. It is still going on. It is It is vastly illegal. Like, it's straight up illegal to do this. It's based on a bill called the Take It Down Act that was unanimously passed in the Senate and almost unanimously in the House.

It was put forward by Ted Cruz, signed by Donald Trump, that this is a criminal offense to publish non-consensual intimate imagery, including digitally fabricated imagery. I have not seen Ted Cruz say anything about this. I just in recent memory and thank you for giving actual hard facts to back up what I was thinking, which is we cared about this. We collectively were like, no, this is bad. This is a bad thing and revenge porn and all this shit is bad. And it's shocking how quickly that is erased from people's brains. No, actually, it's good. Troll them. We care about children unless they're 14 and super hot. Like Jeffrey Epstein is a pedophile, but also, you know, some of these 14-year-olds, it's close to age of consent and whatever. They're never going to look better than they do now.

Whatever. Yeah, that's a lot of... It's not funny. I thought it was funny to reading like the guidelines that they, that brought, has been given and apparently it's been instructed to assume good intent from queries, which I'm having trouble thinking of like, if I'm an AI chatbot sitting there being like, I'm sure this user just requested a picture of a naked kid because it reminds them of childhood.

Like they said that like computationally. This means nothing. Yeah. It's like what is the good intention of that? Yeah. One of the most predatory websites out there now. Just trust the users. The users that pay to get engagement so they get paid.

Just trust that they're. It's obviously absurd. It's like those people who are always like they're caught with it. And it's like, oh, I was just doing research on how to stop this kind of thing. That's what Grock's excuse is going to be. Like, well, I just have. to create 6,700 images an hour to do research on how bad it is. Oh, I do love that, like, they're kind of taking the same approach to this as they do to gun control,

which is sort of the, like, you know, guns aren't evil. People kill people. Yeah. And it's like, don't blame grok. Like, people are making images of other naked people. Like, where it's just like, if this was just regulated at all, it would not be a problem. Like, to expect users to do that is so fucking dumb. And just like letting it happen and not do like oh, Grock apologized. It's not a thing. It can't.

It's not something that it's empty. It's fake. Also, because it started it started out with like like sex workers and like only fans, people doing it as like a bit like part of a promotion. Like Grock, remove this, remove this. Which I think is obviously like fine because it's consensual. But it obviously also opens the door up to. to every single thing that happened after that.

And it's maybe not something that you want to feed into and help, like, normalize. We shouldn't be normalizing that kind of use for AI. But then instantly, everyone was like, oh, so we can just do that. And then they started doing it to people and their photos and then obviously got to children. And it's just so the, just the, just the scum of the earth on this website. And it's so predatory and abusive and comes from, like I saw somebody point this out that, I mean, obviously it's not about like,

oh, I want to see the naked photo. It's just about exercising power over women. And because they hate women and want to exercise power over them. I saw one only fans model point out that apparently, if you advertise your photos as leak, like leaked photos, those are so much more popular than the ones that are regularly released because of that that power that these people like imagine they have now.

Like, oh, it's leaked, therefore, like, I'm not supposed to have it. Therefore, I should do it. And that's like being transferred over to using GROC for that function. And it's just, it should stop right now. And Elon, isn't that so depressing? It made me too. It's really fucked up.

but it's something that people should know. And like that is that is what's going on here. And all while this was happening, Elon was being like, Gruck, put me in a bikini. Ha, ha, ha, ha. And all these jokes about putting like Mr. Beast in a bikini and laugh emoji responses. He knows what's going on. He knows that it's being used for these other horrific things.

But he's laughing about it as like, it's a joke for memes. And he's such a disgusting human being. And Jonathan, you mentioned that Ted Cruz has not spoken out, but don't worry, he has. One tweet from his senator's account, not his personal account, by the way, many of the recent AI generated, sorry, many of the recent AI generated posts are unacceptable and a clear violation of my legislation. Now law, the Take It Down Act, as well as X's terms and conditions. These unlawful images pose a serious threat to victims' privacy and dignity. They should be taken down and guardrails should be put in place. so far so good Ted.

This incident is a good reminder that we will face privacy and safety challenges as AI develops and we should be aggressive in addressing those threats so far so good Ted. I'm encouraged that X has announced that they're taking these violations

seriously and wanting to remove any unlawful images and defending users from their platform. Oh Ted, you were doing so well. A coward. What a fucking... Bad job, buddy. Why would you feel encouraged

by X doing anything? They're not going to do it. They're not doing it. They're not doing it. It's still happening right now. Grock, the chat bot apologizing for the behavior. It's programmed to do by actual human beings is maybe not enough. There's also something so fucking lame about Elon not apologizing.

He's making his robot do it. Yeah. He didn't make his robot to it. Somebody else. Somebody else did. It's like, I mean, that's just it, right? He's like, I'm going to say the thing that saves face. Like what we were saying, like you.

wrote this act. You got this legislation passed. So he's like, all right, and he knows it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's going to happen. And he wants Elon to be on his side. So this is the perfect tight rope walk. Or his podcast.

From what I understand, they're going to take care of this. And so problem solved, nothing to see here. Don't worry about it, folks. I bet he doesn't comment on it again. The acceptable thing for Ted Cruz to do would be to invite Elon Musk to come on his podcast verdict with Ted Cruz as a guest. to talk about what a genius he is in space and so forth, and then arrest him for the crimes he's continuing to commit.

If you have no control over your robot that you can't say don't create the child porn, because for what it's worth, I don't like open AI, I don't like Google's AI, I don't like any of it. Apparently, those companies are acting in good faith to try to make sure this stuff doesn't happen because you could be held criminally liable. And it's wrong. The memes, have you thought about the memes, actually? But I guess they X also laid off like half of its privacy staff in November.

So it's like, yeah, there's like one guy who has to go through like all these claims or probably one poor woman, let's be honest. Whose brain is now mush forever. Yeah. Because they have to look at this all day. And I'm sure they're not giving her support for that emotionally or psychologically because they've got to have years. think that that's for babies or whatever. I don't even think she got a holiday bonus. I got to sleep in a sleeping bag on a couch in the office for the holidays.

Yeah, Christmas. But I do think that like it is, I think about toxic masculinity and the patriarchy a lot. And I do think it's interesting that we're like, there's like a man problem, toxic masculinity abounds, which like absolutely all that's real. But I can think of like one person specifically who if we did something about them, it would have pretty positive ramifications for everybody else. Like it's just like crazy how much power Elon has in perpetuating this stuff. Like there's maybe a top down sort of situation. Maybe he's encouraging it. And maybe if he literally just he went away a lot of this.

I do believe in trickle down misogyny. I guess is what I'm saying. Well, it's true. I mean, that's what he wanted, right? To be someone that is at the center of culture that affects culture, creates culture. Cultures, I'm using that word. He wants to be an influencer. He wants to stream video games that he's bad at.

He wants to do what we do. He wants to like talk. Good luck, Elon. Have friends. Get a couple times an hour, like three. laughs an hour is all you ask for really and then that's all that would that would fulfill him that he can't have it because he's somebody get this guy a podcast because he is the way that he is a terrible idea i mean we listen to him on podcast he's terrible he can't do it yeah it would be a terrible

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