Some More News - Even More News: Judge Orders Release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

Hi. It's been an interesting day from the standpoint of news. Katy, Cody, and Jonathan discuss the continuing Kilmar Ábrego García saga, the U.S. seizure of a Venezuelan oil tanker, Paramount's attempted hostile takeover of Warner Bros. Discovery, and Sean Duffy's insistence that you stop wearing pajamas to the airport.We recorded this shortly before Kilmar Ábrego García was released from ICE custody.And as always, we recorded right before that big thing that happened.PATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comYOUTUBE MEMBERSHIP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/joinFor a limited time, save on the perfect gift by visiting http://auraframes.com to get 35 dollars off Aura’s best-selling Carver Mat frames – named #1 by Wirecutter – by using promo code MORENEWS at checkout. #kilmarabregogarcia #Netflix #evenmorenewsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In today's episode, we talk about a judge ruling that Kilmar Abrago-Garcia must be released, the attempted hostile takeover of Warner Brothers and Sean Duffy's demand that you stop wearing jammies at the airport. Hi! Hello! Welcome back to E! Even more news, the first and only news podcast. My name is Katie Stoll. Oh, I was, sorry, I was lip-syncing to you. Hi, I'm Cody Johnston. I need to say the name of me, which I did.

Get this man on Jimmy Fallon. He's so good at lip-sinking. Don't get me on. Oh, yeah, I would do that. Yeah, that's fine. Get them. Yeah, do it, do it. Okay.

Jonathan is also here. Hi. Hi, Jonathan. I do that Fallon Hot Potato game. What's that? plays hot potato with a celebrity you know that's what late night is now you just play kids games you play red rover with emma stone i don't know if you're joking i think maybe they have played red rover i think maybe he's not joking have they played red rover i would not be surprised if

they've played heads up seven up and the like but red rover jonathan yeah and red rover and red rover Sound off in the comments if anybody's watched Jimmy Fallon in the last decade and knows if they've played Red Rover with or without Emma Stone. I watched a clip of Jimmy Fallon with Parent of the Year, Sam Olton. I cannot imagine having gone through figuring out how to raise a newborn without chat. I think clearly people did it for a long time. No problem. Yes. So I know it's clearly it was possible. Yes, it was possible.

I mean, obviously he's lying. and because he just needs to promote his garbage, but incredible thing to say on TV. How did people raise children before last year? Who's to say? I'm already too dumb to figure it out without chat, GBT. Give me billions of dollars, please. Okay, I'm supposed to delve into this book with you right now.

One fish, two fish, redfish in bold, blue fish. It says I should do voices. What voices should I do? do. Well, I like all your voices that you do. Thanks for asking. ChatGPT is so much more supportive than you, Brad. Brad. Brad. Brad. Brad. Brad. I assume, yeah, we have to assume it's Braden Altman. It's been an interesting day from the standpoint of news. So a U.S. District Judge ordered today that Kilmar-Abrego Garcia must be immediately released, finding that he had not been detained with lawful authority. Oh. How about that? How about that?

Judge Paula Zinnis granted his habeas petition, finding that there had never been an order of removal from an immigration judge, despite the administration claiming that there was. Oh. But no lawyer for the Trump administration could ever find one. And so she goes, okay, well, you have no lawful ability to hold him then, release him immediately. And I keep checking, because this happened five or six hours ago. and I still can't find any evidence that he has been released as of when we're recording.

Well, because the story was published with a bunch of photos of him standing, you know, outside a courthouse. But I think that was from when he was released from the previous time before he was red detained by ICE. So I don't think he's been released yet. He was in ICE custody because they wanted to send him to Liberia. Does it seem likely that he will remain released? I guess he could just, they could just issue new deportation orders because they never did before. Or a single one for the first time. A single one for the first time, actual ones. But for what reason? Seems like they can just do it again and get their little political points with the people they care about and face no real consequences other than months later. They'll have to release them again.

It's true that they don't have, like they, it's perfectly legal. for them, you know, if they find that he does not have legal residency in the country to issue a deportation order, but that judge had said he couldn't be removed to El Salvador, but I think it's still an open question of whether they can legally send him somewhere else and presumably they could have an immigration judge, give a new order, go through this whole process again, a new habeas petition, a new round of... What kind of process? Like he's like some sort of process that he's due for like under the law, to make things happen.

That would be due to him. Due to him. Okay. Interesting. Yeah, it's kind of wild that they just lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, and then every judge is like, you're lying, you're lying, you're lying, you're lying, you're lying, and then they're like, no or not, no or not, no or not, no or not. And then, yeah, you are. And then they have to, I guess, I don't know, they're not even going to admit it. They're just going to hopefully release him and pretend like this didn't happen.

And like, there aren't going to be more examples like this. and like this isn't a part of their entire like project and goal. Well, also because if anyone like that lawyer did admit to it that, oh, we shouldn't have sent him to El Salvador in court, that person just gets fired. Yes, exactly. And then the next lawyer says, no, that was a mistake to admit that. And then there's also this whole thing about like the presumption that the administration is acting in good faith, right?

You're supposed to as a judge and a lawyer. lawyer on the other side and all this stuff presume that they're acting in good faith. And so judges have to continue over and over saying, I don't think that's the case. But in that recent professionals, they're serious people. Yeah. But in that Supreme Court case last week, Alito is like, well, you failed to believe that they're acting in good faith. And they must be. So you're denied, you know, which I see no reason why they couldn't say the same thing here. Like, oh, these judges are presuming that the administration is not acting in good faith you should presume that and thus everything they're saying is true and thus send them wherever you want like this man once all of this is if and when it's

ever said and done is going to have like 50 lawsuits on his hand like it might not be for 10 years but if he's still in this country and able to do so like he can sue the government of the United States for the rest of his life oh yes fish i thought you meant this man as in Donald Trump is going to be sued by everybody. And I'm like, if he made that that long. I hope people personally sue him. I totally misheard that. Yeah, this is, yeah, this is insane.

To this whole time, this whole thing has been unwarranted. He shouldn't have been, but we all knew. We've known this the whole time. Yeah, they admitted to it at the very beginning. The reason we know about it is because they admitted to it. Yeah, I don't know where they go from here. They have to admit that they messed up. They have to do it again.

face or do they try to they're not going to try to let him go. Or they just don't like they just okay well we have other people we can mass deport now. Oh there's plenty more people to terrorize certainly. Oh for sure. We can deprive more people of their rights and terrorize

them instead. Yeah I mean they're signaling that they well was this DHS spokesperson Trisha McLaughlin saying this is naked judicial activism by an Obama appointed judge. They love saying that. Classic. This order lacks. any valid legal basis. I think that's wrong.

And we will continue to fight this tooth and nail in the courts. Like, is there a world? Yeah, I guess this could make its way up to the Supreme Court. They know who he is. They've had to deal with this one. Where they were like, don't, you got to maybe facilitate the coming back of the man in passive language. But facilitate is very specific.

So we're not actually going to know. Very frustrating, but also very good. for this specific man. Okay, the U.S. military are pirates now. Oh, yeah. So actually, before we get into this, we just talked about certain ways that maybe Trump and his administration

are just lawless, goons and thugs attacking the American people. We also do it abroad, obviously, where we don't discriminate. We want to attack everybody. And so in the context of a lot of stuff we've already talked about and what we will be talking about shortly,

I do think it's important to mention this other story from yesterday about the ICC. This does seem a little important to mention. So Trump and his administration have threatened the ICC with sanctions unless they pledge to not investigate or prosecute Donald Trump specifically. How is that okay? Fascinating tacit admission to all the crimes you're doing, Mr. President. It's wild that this happened, but it is.

And so just in the context of all the things we're talking about, Trump is really, really worried about being prosecuted by the international criminal court and is threatening them. He doesn't need to worry about that because he's not going to be, if we're looking at their track record timeline. I'm just recently getting around to, I mean, it's just going to take forever for them to get to prosecuting anything about him. 2038 or something like that. He will, at least 20 years, he will be dead, he will be dust.

Yeah. But still, he said it. He's asking for it. Just something to note is that the president is aware that he is vulnerable to prosecution by the international criminal court. I don't think he is. I think someone... I'm not sure he's... Oh, no, not him specifically.

Yes. I mean, like... Because they all have immunity. Yeah. No, it's clear that the administration, the administration is fully aware, not Trump the man, but Trump, Trump the idea. Trump the organization, fully aware of their crimes. There's not much more to say at this point, but just the sheer fact that the president of the

United States or someone on his team is issuing demands like that. Well, so here's the quote from the Trump administration official, not Donald Trump, Trump administration official, quote, there is growing concern that in 2029, the ICC will turn its attention to the president, to the vice president, to the secretary of war and others, and pursue prosecution against them. Related, one of the things, one of the things that they do not. want the ICC to investigate in 2029 would be, yeah, we're pirates now. Ar, matees, we want that noils. So yesterday at a White House round table with a bunch of business leaders,

Trump made an announcement seemingly unrelated to that meeting. And he said, he started with, It's been an interesting day from the standpoint of news, which is now our slogan. Well, thank you very much. It's been an interesting day from the standpoint of news. As you probably know, we've just seized a tanker on the coast of Venezuela, a large tanker, very large.

Largest one ever seized, actually. And other things are happening. So you'll be seeing that later, and you'll be talking about that later with some other people. Later in the during a Q&A he was asked what are we what happens with the oil and he said we keep it I guess and it was very unclear for several hours what actually happened so what happened was the U.S. seized an oil tanker called the skipper 10 Marines and 10 Coast Guard troops propelled out of a helicopter to take over and seize a military vessel there were no casualties. in the operation. The administration is very proud of this. Pam Bondi tweeted a video of it so you can see the repelling happening. The nuance I'm going to mention before opening this up is that this vessel itself was apparently sanctioned several years ago by the Biden administration when it was registered to Panama for conducting illegal oil trade with Iran. So it's unclear if the vessel would have

still been seized under normal circumstances, but the administration is clearly trying to incorporate it into its pressure campaign on Venezuela. It might be in our terms legal and so on, but in the larger context, it is the next step. And it does seem like Trump is alluding to the fact that we're going to do it more. And maybe not in this context, but this is one of those examples of like, oh you were you were you overreacted to this and it was perfectly fine therefore we're just going to do whatever now that's how they operate with this kind of escalation and we've talked about this before Trump obviously he's just about that oil and he's talked about all using you know back in the day he's like yeah we'll go we'll help Olivia with their humanitarian aid and

then we'll take their oil as payment that's not what humanitarian aid is you don't take payment that's just not what the words mean whatever but he's always been a very much like oh we'll just take it was take their oil or we'll do this and then they'll pay us with oil and that's his goal um another one seems to be like you said some sort of regime change um some sort of escalating tension and violence between nations for a lot of reasons a president like him might want to do that it's so frustrating it's weird that he's not like a free trade capitalist that he like he likes that other countries have nationalized industries and he's like I want that I let's I will take the oil and it'll be like

Trump's US oil he's not gonna give it to the the company I mean I'm sure of course that's the idea but like he wants to have a national oil he wants Trump oil he wants Trump oil he wants Trump all the stuff he wants all the companies to be his Trump companies don't Republicans dislike that not anymore okay great So Jonathan, so in 2016, right? Okay. Actually, so go back. So in 2015, okay, in late 2015, there's this escalator.

Okay, I, okay. So, okay, so actually before that. So, okay, there's a show on NBC, right? And it starred this guy. Okay, wait. So in the 80s, in the 80s, in 70s, there was this other, there's this guy, okay? And it's, um, okay, sorry, Katie, you go. I, you clearly want me to stop.

But you're right. Well, there's just so much to get to. I know. There was this guy drumpf back in. Okay, I was like, how far, how far back do I have to go? Oh, God, I got to start Google. One thing that I was thinking about, not that I would expect them to have this kind of logic, but I went so angry about immigrants and migration. And they're like, we have to check them out.

They're invading our country. And no one stops, at least nobody that you want to stop and have these thoughts ever does. Why are people leaving their countries? Why do they come to America for opportunity? What is America done throughout our history to destabilize regions, to make them, you know, dependent on us to cause chaos, to rape their natural resources? And how can you trace that line to today as to why so many people want to come to America for economic opportunity? You're just doing it again. You're just doing it again, creating more.

It's just going to destabilize this country. take their oils so economically they're devastated and they need to come to the table and make a deal with us. Well, in the meantime, there's people starving, that chaos and juice violence. More people are going to want to come to America. I don't think they think things through, is I guess. I think they, I think maybe there. No, you don't understand. By taking the oil, we won't burn the oil, which will slow down the climate change, which will allow people in Central and South America to

stay in their countries because the climate change is what has, and will continue to encourage a lot of migration. So maybe this is 90 climate change chess. We, we, America, we take,

we do. That's how America. That's how America the beautiful goes, right? In this context, I also wanted to just, you know, we're fair and balanced here. I want to talk about Chuck Schumer real quick. He was interviewed by Jake Tapper Do you disagree with President Trump's ultimate goal of regime change in Venezuela? Look, the bottom line is President Trump throws out so many different things in so many different ways.

You don't even know what the heck he's talking about. You know, obviously if Maduro would just flee on his own, everyone would like that. But we don't know what the heck he's up to when he talks about that. So it's very, very, you cannot say, I endorse this, I endorse that. When Trump is all over the lot, not very specific and very worrisome at how far. far he might escalate. You're supposed to know. You're supposed to be the person that knows what he's doing.

You're supposed to be the one that's creating a plan to just say, I don't know. I don't know what he's doing. You know what he's doing. We know what he's doing. Just being like, do you disagree with President Trump's ultimate goal of regime change in Venezuela? I mean, we'd all love Maduro to just leave on his own is such a funny thing to say in response to that question. So, you know, I'm just to sort of maybe point out that perhaps some of the Democratic leadership will not push back against what is escalating as much as one might hope.

But maybe. It's like war seems like a good idea only ever right before you started. And then at every other point on the timeline seems bad during, after forever. But then right before the next one, like this one, I think we can do this one. No friction, liberators easily. Everyone likes when the United States comes bearing gifts of tanks. And the gift of less oil. Because it's ours.

We'll take it and they'll be like dead. Yeah. Oh, he does talk like that, doesn't he? He did say that. Okay, look, if you're anything like me, you're a pink. panicking because it's almost Christmas and you haven't done your gift shopping yet because you were busy wondering whether water is the wettest thing. Spoiler alert, I'm like 80% sure that it is, it is indeed the wettest thing. Well, fortunately, if you are still looking for the right

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you got to just follow through katie you got to see it through the only way we're in the middle of a hostile call well you don't start over you got oh okay you're right because I did the first part It was the second part that I didn't land. Paramount Netflix. They're trying to get Warner Brothers Discovery. It's a fucking mess. Either way you slice it. I'm not happy about it.

Jonathan, walk us through this terrible story. How will our movies get better? I feel like there's a great chance of movies on the big screen still being a thing in the future. You don't think that Netflix is going to kill the movie. industry? I mean, movie theater industry. They are tempting.

It might be a niche thing for folks like us. It'll be very niche. It'll be all art house screenings and limited runs of things. So Netflix won the bidding war for Warner Brothers Discovery. They said we'll spend $72 billion. We're going to buy the TV and film studios, HBO, HBO Max, but not CNN, TBS, Turner Classic movies. none of the cable networks.

Those will be spun off into a different company called Discovery Global. But Paramount is coming out and saying, look, look, look, look, look, you guys are only pretending that Netflix's offer is the best, but our offer was for everything and came in at 77.9 billion. And if you take into account that Netflix was overvaluing the TV part of this, the CNN of it, it when you when you really recognize that those are piles of crap and are worth nothing our offer is the better offer and is better for the shareholders and you have a duty to go with the best

offer for the shareholders thus paramount david ellison sky dance etc we should take over and then now we're in a dot dot dot situation because no matter who takes over it's a regulatory year long at least process of doing this, which the government has to approve as not creating a monopoly, but that's not really what it's about. It's about who kisses Trump's ass the most, which they're all trying to do. So a few, let me backtrack, a few days before the Netflix announcement, apparently Ted Sarandos, the CEO of Netflix, went to the White House, kissed Trump's ass a little bit, and Trump said, whoever is the highest bidder gets it. We're, you know, we're not going to really interfere with this.

And then he was mad at Paramount Skydance because CBS News aired on 60 Minutes, a Marjorie Taylor Green segment that he didn't like. And he said, oh, this is even worse than the last management team was. So I thought, okay, maybe he's on board with Netflix. But then yesterday at that meeting, he said it was imperative that CNN is sold and come under new management and that at any deal quote it should be guaranteed and certain that CNN is part of it or sold separately but I don't think the people that are running that company right now and running CNN which is a very dishonest group of people I don't think that should be allowed

to continue so it seems like whatever happens here is contingent on CNN becoming a fox news which is not but that's not a part of the Netflix deal no it would be discovery Very global would potentially keep the same CNN leadership team in there, and he doesn't like that. It is, I do agree with you, Jonathan. Theaters are not going to go away entirely, but it is very, very depressing to see some of the quotes from Ted Sarandos about movie theaters and about people and about movies and art in general, because he has talked a lot about how people, you know, I keep talking to, like, directors and filmmakers and how you need to put, like, think about the consumer when you're making these things. And he keeps using the word consumer. And it's so depressing to talk to an artist and tell them to think about the consumer

because that means you don't actually like art. You don't really want to make it. You just want people to have it on in the background. It's that rule that Netflix, the alleged rule that Netflix has for a lot of its shows where you have to write knowing that someone will have their phone in their hand. scrolling while Netflix is on so you have to describe in more detail

like what's going on remind people of the plot like treat the person exposition more expositional dialogue for like second screen viewing oh they might be in the kitchen they might not be paying attention so you have to do a worse job

and water down your art that you're trying to make your film or your show for that purpose and it's just really really depressing to see I even you know we're not going to talk about stranger things, but you see there are a few lines in this season where I'm like

that is Netflix writing. And Netflix speaking. Meanwhile, you're still turning to the person next to you going like, wait, what are the rules of the underground? I thought they got sick if they were down there, but now there's helicopters down there. You just breathe that dust all day. Was Vecna there before last season? Don't they know it's that guy? What's... Why isn't, it's clear? This guy is clearly

the guy from the other thing? It's, we're all after, yeah. Yeah, it's fine. I mean, I guess I do agree with you that because we're so nostalgic culturally, that alone should prevent all the total demise of movie theaters across the board. But I do believe that it becomes eventually over time more of a niche, more of far fewer art house special screenings, et cetera. very limited runs of movies. And, I mean, you can talk about our cultural movement in a certain direction and why people do end up staying home and watching things, how expensive movies are, et cetera.

But we're not talking about what we lose culturally. And I'm saying this is somebody that hasn't been to the movie theaters very much recently. I deeply miss the cultural phenomenon of we all go and see a movie. I guess Barbie got a lot of it, but it's going, it's harder and harder to find this whole, the zeitgeistiness of, you know, and how else do we create cultural classics that people go and see, the Casablanca's, the, you know. Well, that's impossible these days with our political climate, honestly, like, it's so hard to have any sort of cohesive culture. but it just it's like I don't even know it I'm not building to a bigger point except that it makes me sad to think about how far away we're moving it's it's in being able to learn from art and share it with each other and it's so difficult to find what you want to watch there's an abundance of things to watch on Netflix on all of these streaming services and overwhelming because you could start anyone. where I have no idea what other people are talking about anymore.

Yeah, it's why TV was, you know, what's on TV? Okay, this is on the theater experience. Hearing him talk about, like, what an archaic model it is and just sort of, like, it's very clear he doesn't want people to watch movies and theaters. It's about people and connections. And, like, we even allude to this in our part one Bush episode that aired on Wednesday, like, seeing like, Lord of the Rings in theaters. That's an experience.

And, like, also, not every movie. But so many movies. Yeah. We all saw Lord of the Rings in the theaters. But like seeing a movie on a big screen, it is a different kind of experience than on your phone or on your computer or on a TV, even if it's a slightly larger TV. And it's just clear he just doesn't want any part of that to exist and just once you stuck in front of the TV with Netflix on at all times. I will say, I agree with you. Netflix, it is against their business.

business, they want people, it's competing with them sitting in front of Netflix having it on and paying your subscription fee every month. From the beginning was don't leave your house. But I will say you can still get a theatrical experience by just going to the movies, especially if you go opening night to something or if something is in limited release if you live in a place where they put out those kind of movies. I'm very fortunate to live in L.A. where those things still happen. Like you can go and even if it's not something that everyone you know is talking about, you can still go and have that experience.

And, you know, you could go see Avatar Fire and Ash in a few weeks and people will talk about that for five days until we go back to the Avatar had no cultural footprint thing. But you can still like do that and it's still like rewarding and it's similar to the experience.

It always was, even though there's not the cigarette marks to change the real like there used to be. And even Netflix and this might go away once they stop caring about trying to win Oscars but Netflix does make a few really good movies

almost every year like art movies like Power of the Dog was a Netflix movie The Lost Daughter was a Netflix movie Train Dreams is on Netflix right now I watched it Red Notice The Grey Man

You're right You're totally right But there are movies that look good And I'm like oh man I wish I could see this on big screen and weirdly the Netflix algorithm doesn't think I want to watch good movies

because when they make good movies I go and see them in the theater so according to Netflix I've never seen the Irishman because I went to see it in the movie theater and I didn't need to watch it on Netflix but like that experience is still there and the best way to preserve it is to do it because then you reward yourself

and you're giving it money so that is the ultimate I think the best conclusion of this conversation because you're right it certainly is there for you especially depending on where you live it hasn't gone away enjoy it now and show that there still

is an interest in an industry there and when I say this I don't expect it to happen overnight I'm just looking at the way things are trending you just listed a bunch of movies that are apparently really good that I don't know anything

they don't advertise them also no They don't want you to know about them out. You have to read year-end lists. I would rather get targeted ads about that than Cheech and Chong's flavor bongs or whatever. I get a lot of those. I could probably put together a list of like 10 legitimately great films that are Netflix films

that are now only available on Netflix and like turn off the lights and watch it on the best picture you can with decent sound. And it's like not the same as going to the movie theaters, but you can like tell them. in their algorithm that you want more of that stuff. Good movies, yeah. Yeah, that's true. I also

just go see a movie because if you see a movie in the theater, then when the movie ends, you don't have a little countdown immediately start in the corner of the screen as the credits roll telling you that you have to watch another fucking movie. It is so, it's so insulting. It's so insulting to the art that they're trying to get you to watch that every single

time, like, fuck the credit. is terrible about this because Apple has good stuff and then like Killers of the Flower Moon after three and a half hours will end and then as soon as directed by Martin Scorsese comes up it's in the top right corner and it's like you got four seconds to hit disgusting to everybody that

worked on that movie. Also just one thing to add about this I also think there are so many there are a lot of filmmakers out there because like the industry and like the artistry are like you know there's crossover but they're also separate in a lot of ways and I

I wanted to read this, of all people, this James Gunn quote, I think is interesting, because amidst all of this, some interview, whatever, he's talking about, the Supergirl trailer or whatever, because he's the head of these, like, these, like, big movies that are going to be coming out. And his quote is, he wants DC movies, quote, that are cool and different from each other to continue playing in theaters. This is a story-based medium. We want stories to be in theaters that are cool and different from each other. And it's just that kind of thing.

Like, so, like, they all know that there is this attempt to shift away from theaters. So even when he's not talking about this issue, he, like, like, there are people who, like, just slip in, like, in theaters, in theaters, in theaters, in theaters, in theaters, just trying to, like, get you to, like, lock into, like, what they're actually trying to do. Tom Cruise is standing behind me with a gun to my head right now. I don't, I haven't meant any of this. He's eating popcorn, pointing a gun at my head. Get out of there, Tom.

I want to, I don't want to end this conversation. I feel like we've blown through this conversation without mentioning one element of this corporate takeover that is important is from an industry's perspective, from a job perspective, people and entertainment have had a really, really rough go of it for a long time now. And it's getting worse and it's getting worse and people are desperate. And I think, no, I know that this will have a lot of fallout for people. around the industry in terms of jobs and employment, consolidation of departments, et cetera. So I will add that there is that extra element in my mind because all of my friends are freaked out about this,

not just in terms of what it means big picture or entertainment in the movie industry, but literally it's like you're kicking a dog while it's down over and over again. Is the energy that I think a lot of just working professionals, not just actors, writers, costume designers, yeah, executives,

people that work in different departments, marketing. Yeah, crew, like everybody. Everybody, your trailer department. Lighting, costuming. This is huge, and it has a lot of fallout. So before we moved on, I wanted to say that. Absolutely.

I was going to say, on the bright side, Disney is investing $1 billion in open AI and licensing all its characters to Sora. So. Stab myself in the face. Okay, well, we've got a few more minutes so let's end on something fun let's call it cody's corner is that what we're calling it no that was that we were going to call it quomo's corner but we're not doing

quomo the inaugural edition of cody's quomo corner can be about someone else that's fine yes fine can be about someone well because this this whole segment's going to be about rage bait right which this is definitely an example of so this is annoying is what this is Um, yeah, it's really, uh, annoying, funny. Uh, maybe, I mean, maybe Sean Duffy's one of my new favorite guys. I don't know. Um, I don't know if he's in charge of NASA still or anymore or what's going on there. But he is the secretary of transportation and he has been on one just like really trying to get people to step up and act right. And, uh, recently yesterday, two days ago for those listening, he, uh, he was taught, he's been talking about making the, travel experience more fun and engaging I guess at airports specifically

airport specifically and thrown about out a bunch of ideas and one of the main things he's been talking about and he did an example of we can watch a video of it if you want to go find it is that we're going to have workout zones in airports where you can do pull-ups or step-ups he says

and he does some pull-ups and incidentally he's better at them than our Secretary of Defense and head of the HHS who love doing pull-ups on camera but they're bad at them. Whatever. Duffy, you're my favorite guy. Katie?

Who's working out at the airport? I don't want to sit next to someone who's really stinky especially uncomfortably close. You're going to go work out in your business clothes. Well, it's just one of the many activities. Well, so this is the thing. This is, I saw him say this and I actually couldn't stop laughing for a minute.

What a funny, stupid thing for Sean Duffy to suggest for a few reasons. The main one is that about a week ago, you said people need to start dressing better and should stop wearing sweatpants at the airport. So what you're suggesting is that people dress up in suits to go to the airport and then do a bunch of pull-ups and then wait to get on a plane full of people in suits who just did a bunch of pull-ups. It's so silly. I love this. It's just like such an obvious contradiction to what he wants to do and what he's like presenting himself as doing.

I love it. He's bending over backwards to throw out these ideas when at the poor, you know, like, yeah, people are unhappy. People are miserable at the airport. and it's not because they need to get their pull-ups in. It's because it's because it's miserable at the airport. It's miserable to fly. You aren't dressing up because you're basically sitting in your roommate's lap. If you want to go to the bathroom, your butts in their face as you cross on it.

It's a nightmare to travel. Plus it's leg day. Exactly. Well, that's for step-ups. So you're just throwing out every, just ideas outside. any idea other than make planes better. Make the experience of flying better. And one more thing, and then I'll throw it back to you.

I am not inherently opposed to making airports more pleasant or more entertaining. Maybe there are people out there that could really use that they've got a two-hour layover and want to, you know, work out the kinks because you've been flying all day. Actually, maybe. Not going to be me. Maybe. Beside the point. Beside the point of the issue you're trying to address. The idea of like we want to make your airport experience better by giving you more stuff to do to distract you from how miserable it is to travel.

Make airplanes more comfortable. Like do something about like cancellations and layovers and delays and all the things that actually make traveling unpleasant. Or if it has to be like... Or the planes that are better now... Freak up a coffee for people. I don't know. Obviously, they're not going to do that. But just like the idea, like, you need like video games and like make it a party.

No. Make it comfortable and pleasant and quick. Do that and no one would have complaints about it. No, he's trying to return us to the golden age of travel. You remember like the episode where Don Draper's flying to California, but first he does a bunch of butterfly curls in the terminal. Yeah, in his suits. Yeah, in his suits.

And then, like, some, like, attractive woman looks at him on the plane and says, like, oh, you have pit stains on your suit. You stink, sir. I can smell your much. You stink, sir. Your pheromones. And then he's like, well, stinking is just an idea, right? But there is no way to ultimate, like, yes, airports could be better and feel better

and be less stressful. But there's no way it's ever going to be not stressful. You're flying 3,000 miles and bringing a bunch of bags and your family and all this stuff and you've got to be there on time and then once you're there,

it's uncomfortable. Like, there's no way to make it a... I guess if everyone got to sit in first class because it looks nice up there. Or like the diamond club or whatever. As I trudge by, like, carrying a car seat on my head. It looks nice. But I think that's not your job, man.

That's also not your job yet. That's that individual airport's job. Certainly not your job to scold people and tell them to dress up at the airport. Go do your job. I have some breaking news to announce. Ooh. The Indiana Republican Party has rejected the redistricting plan to do more gerrymandering and pick up another two house seats. So breaking news in 10 minutes, an angry 500 word truth social post is about to come out The worst state in the union Indiana is denounced Yeah

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Lusiers. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Because when it's green turns to brown, it's bad, right? He tried that again. It's incredible. He tried to say many people, some people say Marjorie Taylor Brown because green turns brown sometimes. Who? He forgot that he said it.

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