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Episode Date: May 17, 2024

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Hello and welcome back to Even More News, the first and only news podcast. My name is Still Katie Stoll. Hi, Still Katie Stoll. I'm Cody again. Hello, Cody again. I'm great. Thanks for having me on. Is that sarcastic? Yeah, no. We're thrilled. We've got a first time guest this week, comedian, author, and podcaster who's a new standup special loopholes is available to rent and purchase on prime video and Apple TV.

It's Kate Willett. Hi. Hey, nice to see you guys. I know from Twitter, but yeah, it's nice to talk in real life. Yeah. And I love, you know, we we've got the same hair color and a similar name. Very true. It's all coming together. Are you a Kathleen or Katherine? Katherine, how about yourself? I'm a Kathleen and never do I meet a Kate Katie that is a Kathleen. I guess I'm supposed to be Kathy, although I don't, Catherine also could be a Kathy, you know? I was hanging out with a Katie and a calf and we were just chilling out and like

it took like an hour to realize that our names are all Catherine spelled the same way. It's a very common one. Yeah. Not me, Kathleen. I thought when I turned 40, I'd swap over to Kathleen and now 40 is approaching fast and I don't think it's happening. It's not in the cards. You're not going to do it? No. I'm not going to suddenly rebrand as Kathleen. happening. It's not in the cards for me. I'm not going to suddenly rebrand as Kathleen. Yeah, it also like Kathleen is like a 40 year old from when we are small. There was a lot of Kathleen's at that time, at that time. But now we're up to date. It's Katie all the way down. Yeah. Anyway, fun little detour about names. OK, we have some holidays to celebrate. We do and we love it. May 17th is.

Well, it's not yet. Tomorrow will be May 17th. But the National Graduation Tassel Day. OK. Created by the Tassel Company made the Tassel Depot. Makers of tassels without hassles since 1864. Wow. I keep getting surprised by this sentence. Yeah, you like every step of the way. Like what? And a period at the end. OK, I'm going to read this blurb and then I'm going to share a little story.

Apparently, high school and undergrad graduates start the tassel on the right and move it to the left. And then for graduate students, they start on the left and move it to the left and then for graduate students They start on the left and move it to the right cute. Okay, they take away their degree. They have to go back to school Yeah, it's just like a rewind button. Mm-hmm. I was not Valedictorian by a long shot But I was senior class president because I lost student body president. But the benefit of being senior class president is that you get to lead the whole graduation ceremony in the ceremonial turning of the tassels.

Oh, did it go well? And so I get up there, I get up there, and it was a windy day, and I say whatever thing I have to say, now lead us in the ceremonial turning of the tassels. And I lifted my hand up and I reached and I couldn't find it cause the wind had flopped it over and it's fine. It's not like pre-graduated the most embarrassing thing. But for a little high school student

that's in front of all these people, I was like, Oh boy, I blew it. Anyway, that's my story. That would never happen if you had a tassel depot tassel. That's in front of all these people. I was like, oh boy. I blew it if you had a Tassel Depot tassel Tassel you can actually press a button on your keychain where it'll make a noise exactly I don't know AI. I'll just move it for you these days. Yeah No hassles. It's right there in the name. I don't know.

AI will just move it for you these days. Yeah. It's been a while since we've had a- Or a future, it will. Yeah, one day. Once they perfect it, once they iron out all the millions of wrinkles, I do enjoy every once in a while.

It's been a while, I feel like, since we've had a holiday that is so very clearly just a company paid for a holiday. Like, you know, it's like Apple pie day. All right. Apple pie. We're trying to sell apple pie, but no, literally like it's like apple pie. The company was like, we should make a day for us. So good for them. Good for tassels. Good for the tassel depot. And then May 18th is national no dirty dishes day.

This isn't what you think it is, though. This isn't about washing your dishes. I guess it's it's just about not using your dishes at all. It's for getting takeout or delivery. Oh, I bet this holiday is brought to you by DoorDash. I was going to say, like, don't do your dishes order in. What is this? I would have first heard this.

I thought it was maybe someone super passive aggressive move towards their husband. Just like, Oh, morning sweetheart. It's national no dirty dishes day. So I was thinking it could be awesome if you clean up after yourself. Some very passive aggressive life. I share the load and your your common chores day. Yeah. Eat all meals out. This is a weird holiday. They're all pretty weird. Christmas guy, bearded white man tries to fit down our chimneys. I don't know what are we're I love. They have a section on the National Day calendar, which, you know, more power to them, you're doing a great calendar. National No Dirty Dishes Day history. And so they have the Stone Age.

Eating utensils were primarily rock stones used for cutting meat and fruit. Animal horns were used as drinking utensils, while pieces of wood were used as utensils. That's not Dirty Dishes Day history. That's just a fact about utensils. What does that have to do with no dirty dishes day? Bad website. No good website. We like it. We like it.

We support it. I just I feel bad for them. We're fine. I know there's a person like me who has to sit there and write all that. Like what? I'm supposed to come up with the dirty dishes day history. I did a Google search. I can't find it. All right. Dishes were invented six thousand years ago. All this needs four words. They are paying someone, presumably, to do this. And they get to just like not much, but not much.

You know, I like to imagine this person just gets stoned and is like, fuck it. Let's bring it way back. But pretty soon that person would have a job and A.I. is going to do it. And half of it will be wrong. Yeah, maybe the first the first utensil was made of plastic. All right. Right. OK, well, we did it.

We have celebrated. I feel like I am in the holiday mood. Oh, yeah. Kate. Yeah. Congratulations on your special. Very exciting. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. You talk about incels on your special. Very exciting. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. You talk about incels in your special. I do. I do have some incel stuff in there.

Yeah, some incel stuff. We have a we have an episode of our YouTube show coming out next week about the crisis with men. You know, just how disaffected men are and how they could potentially start to get their shit together. And, you know, do you think men are fixable? and R and how they could potentially start to get their shit together. And, you know, do you think men are fixable? Oh, man, you know, that's such a good question.

Nice like question for you. Well, I actually wrote a whole book about it, about that topic. Yeah. Like basically like how we would fix men if we wanted to, how they would fix themselves. It's on Audible, it's called Dirtbag Anthropology. But, you know, the conclusion that I ended up coming to in there was like a lot of, you know, what is like wrong with men, what people talk about is messed up about men is,

it kind of the same things that sort of pervaded the rest of our society, sort of like maybe a lack of empathy, you know, for other people. But it just, it does manifest in a really different way when it comes to like a super horny dude versus, you know, a girl boss, if you will. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we dip into that. It's tough because like, well, how do you fix men? It's like, well, men are it's not like men need to be good men. It's just be a better person. Like what you're saying, like there's like these universal sort of issues that are magnified through this Manosphere lens. But it's not like, oh, they're bad men. It's like, no, you're just being a bad person. And some of them are bad men.

But I know, I know it's complicated because it's not that I say any of this without empathy and obviously not all men are bad. Not all men. Wow. So you can say, wow, not all men. But there is a reckoning that's happening with this idea of what a man should be or how they get their validation from society and the way that society is changing.

And we don't often give them the resources. Actually, that's not true. The resources are there. People just have to be willing to accept that things are changing and be self reflective as well. And that is true about all genders. So but yeah, fucking men. You know, I do feel like there there has been like kind of a an escalation with like the the Manosphere, even in the past few years here. Like it feels like I mean, obviously, you know, like there's like Elliot Rogers and stuff. But I feel like back in the day, it was like not quite as like psychotic as it is right now.

And I also feel like the Sigma male is like is this like a new thing from the time I checked in on a few years ago? Yeah, just like, oh, you know, you can actually be like a nerd who stays in your room all the time, and that doesn't prevent you from being like a man. Yeah, I don't want to. I don't want to know women or men. I am my own island, and that's healthy and good. Yeah, I love further isolation. Yeah, exactly. Oh, like that Simon and Garfunkel song. I'm a rock. I'm an isolation. Yeah, exactly. I love investing. I like that Simon and Garfunkel song.

I'm a rock. I'm an island. OK. I was searching my brain for some sort of. Oh, my God. What's the one word they give investing advice? Open my mouth. I'm like, don't say it. Don't say it. Set it. You said it. And here we are.

Bridge over troubled GameStop stock. All right. Yeah. You also have a joke in your new special about astrology and Mercury and retrograde. And, you know, we talk about it all the time. I don't know. This isn't really a question. We just cannot stop talking about Mercury and retrograde. Anyway, this is a really perfect question. But wouldn't it be nice if if we could just blame all of society's problems,

all this bullshit we're about to talk about in Mercury and retrograde. Sorry, the planets aren't in alignment at the moment. Bad planets. When you meet somebody who talks a lot about that stuff, it's kind of like, you know, they're like, stuff is really messed up because Mercury is retrograde. And in your mind. You're thinking like, I feel like your life is never going that well. There's always a planet that's a little off kilter.

I mean, I do love to say it, but not in sincerity. When things go right. Only sometimes in sincerity. Well, sometimes you're like, wait, it actually isn't retrograde. But I don't believe it. Shit goes wrong when it actually is in retrograde, but I don't believe it. Shit goes wrong when it's not in retrograde, so. That's true, but that's because it's not in retrograde. That's why it's going wrong. No, it's supposed to go wrong when it's- If only Mercury were in retrograde at that time, then it would have gone differently, right?

I don't follow your logic. Uh, sure. Yes. That's right. I agree with you completely, Cody. Hello, my lover. You know, there's an election coming up this year and it's going to be just, just terrible. The pits, as they say, fart in a shoe box, a real horn in the butt.

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I'm gonna go eat my soaps. I guess we should talk about the news. I guess. Funds over, folks. Yeah. Well, if we can find a way to work Sigma males in. Yeah, I'm sure we can. What's the Sigma male reaction to this piece of information? Yeah. I have faith that we can bring it back the Sigma male reaction to this piece of information? I have faith that we can bring it back around. Well, we're going to start off with some Gaza updates, though. So Jonathan, bring us up to speed, I guess.

Yeah. A few more updates this week. So the Biden administration is planning to send another one billion dollar arms package. This comes a week after. Oh, yeah. After saying that they weren't going to. Yeah. Well, a one whole week. Well, there's a shipment was paused. Yeah. Right. But there was a sense like, oh, maybe this is finally the red line has been crossed with with Israel going into Rafa.

But it appears no. To be fair, it's unclear if this was an existing arms sale or one that was part of some sort of previous package. But at any rate, it's $700 million worth of tank ammunition, $500 million in tactical vehicles, $60 million in mortar rounds. That stuff can't be used in RAFA, right? They can't use that, right? So it still works.

I'm being sarcastic. Sorry, go ahead. Go on, John. No, I knew. But thank you for letting me know. I've seen I've seen a lot of people be like, well, that was because of this. Like, this is a separate package that they can't really use. Like, what? Yeah. Yeah. What? And so that's so the Israel is stepping up its incursion into Rafa, which

the US has ostensibly been saying, please don't do that. And then they're doing it anyway. 600,000 people there have been displaced so far. Many more obviously trying to get out. It's about a quarter of Gaza's population. This includes 20 American doctors and medical workers who are trapped there as well. Normally, we wouldn't stand for that, right? Normally we make a big deal about getting American citizens. You say no. Yeah, normally we wouldn't stand for that.

If it was any other situation in any other country, we would be concerned about those, at least concerned about those 20 American doctors and medical workers, if not also the hundreds of thousands of other people. Yeah, those people as well. But just in terms of like, the way America operates, we would be very vocally concerned about those 20 doctors. Yeah, I agree. I'm still unfortunately, thinking through the lens of a Sigma male reaction to this news. And I would have to say that Joe Biden is being cucked. Yes.

Yes, he is. Oh, you did it. And then Yahoo going his own way. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Kate, I'm like pretty thoroughly impressed at how quickly you did it. You brought it back.

You're right, he is being cucked. This man is so ill-equ equipped for this moment in time, from my perspective. Or he's the most equipped. Yeah, I don't know. This like fake positing of the bomb shipment. I mean, he really did do it. He really did posite, but it's like,

I read this piece that I think Ken Clippinsay wrote about how, you know, like you were saying, Cody, it like wasn't even really the type of weapons that they needed anyway. Well, not needed. I feel like they don't need any of this shit, but, like, you know, that they wanted for that part of their invasion. And it's just, I don't know, it's so disgusting.

It just... And, right, and, like, you know, I guess you can't use tank ammunition in on the ground. Like, it's just like this absurd sort of song and dance of like, well, performatively, we're going to hold this for not even a week, maybe a week so that it can be signaled that there is a red line, but there actually is not one. There has been two and a half, two and three quarters. There never has been. Yeah, it has very like two and a half, two and three quarters. Yeah.

Just... I wonder, like, because I feel like they've even said, like, at one point, like, at one point he was asked point blank, like, is there a red line here? And he either shuffled off without answering or said no, I forget which. Dropped his ice cream cone. One of those two things, yeah. Changed the subject. Maybe changed the subject.

Well, because you would think, you know, we just briefly mentioned this, that in any other situation, if there were 20 American medical workers that were trapped in a spot and an ally of ours could allow them to leave or even help them get away, it would be assumed that that is something they would have to do. And since they're not doing that, it's almost like they're being held hostage there along with everyone else.

If they're not allowed to cross the Rafa border crossing into Egypt or, you know, go to Israel, our ally, which is a couple miles away from where they are. Did you guys read that, like the intercept piece about how they were going to try to get those doctors out? Did you see that? I have the passage right here because I was like, what is going on? I'll read this. This is from the...

Read the passage. Monica Johnston, a nurse volunteering at the hospital said that a primary concern of those who will be leaving is that new humanitarian workers be allowed in otherwise the hospital campus is more likely to Get overrun by the Israel Defense Forces The plan she said is for the UN to do a test run from the hospital to the border Tuesday Only carrying UN staff if those staff are not killed by the idea as one international employee was on Monday Then on Wednesday two medical staff will be taken to the border and two new volunteers will be allowed in to replace them and so on in the coming days.

So the good news is I didn't hear about the idea of killing those UN workers on Tuesday. Although, what a although who's talking? Impossible disaster like these people that are volunteering. Did you do a test run to get, like, god that's so fucked up. Yeah, to see if you get killed, that they have to volunteer to just be like... I'll tell you what, I wouldn't feel comfortable after that test run. It wouldn't make me feel comfortable even if nobody got killed.

Yeah, if the test run goes well, maybe still not super confident. Because if a test run has to be made in order to detect if you're going to get blown up or shot purposefully, that seems bad. I did not see that. That is harrowing is the right word. You're right. It was right there. What a quagmire.

What a complex situation. Yeah, it's so complicated. What a nuance. situation. Yeah, it's so complicated. I don't feel qualified to opine on this without reading 1000 years of history. I'm not allowed to weigh in. I'm not allowed to care. Yeah, I'm going to pursue my PhD in Middle East studies and then get back to you. But we should like lock it up. Yeah. Once you move that tassel back from left to right, then you'll be able to sit down.

Finally. Do we do that in any other situation where we're like, oh, this is bad, this thing that's happening. We're like, oh, they shouldn't be slaughtering these children. And then someone's like, have you heard of the Peloponnesian War? And you're like, but I don't see how that connects. It's not the Peloponnesian War would explain why we have to blow up these children. Sorry. Oh, I think that such as do that a lot.

I think I mean, it's the most egregious and longstanding in this example. But I think that that's like a very common tactic for why bad things have to continue to happen. Absolutely. Yeah. Like Madaglacius is empire is his built on that kind of logic. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. Like is the ending. And this is this situation. This fucking disaster is like the most obvious, I think. And it really brings it all out because it's such a, it should, it is a very clear cut situation. And so the absurdity of a lot of the common sort of reactions

to things like this is way more apparent now because of the situation and being so, so absurd. And yeah, they really- Also, you have to reference history, but not this history over here that there was just the 76th anniversary. Oh, yeah. Can't talk about that. Well, they alternate tactics for why you can't talk about it, because it's so like morally egregious that any regular person,

given the information is like, wow, that's pretty bad. So, you know, either you can't talk about it because you don't know enough history or you can't talk about it because it's anti-Semitic to talk about what's happening or, um, yeah, I guess, you know, those are the two main reasons or, you know, Hamas lies. This is all fake information. You know, yeah, the death toll is not real. Yeah. Still haven't gotten an answer on what's the number that will make people concerned. Um, still don't know what that number is going to be. Yeah. Still haven't gotten an answer on what's the number that will make people concerned. Still don't know what that number is going to be.

Yeah. Been asking for months. What's the limit? What else do we have? We've got some high profile resignations this week. Yeah. US Army Major Harrison Mann, who was working at the Defense Intelligence Agency, resigned. He posted an open letter to LinkedIn talking about the shame and guilt

he felt since he supported quote, the killing and starvation of tens of thousands of Palestinians. Lily Greenberg-Call, who was a special assistant to the Interior Department Chief of Staff, resigned Wednesday, accusing President Biden of using Jews to justify his support for Israel. She became the first Biden appointee who was Jewish to publicly resign over this conflict. So Biden is in a spot. Disarray. And he must be feeling the heat though, right, Jonathan? He must be feeling like, uh-oh, whoops, yikes.

What if I gotta think about. Yeah, not according to the Biden campaign, which says it doesn't really buy that his poll numbers aren't great and that he's currently losing to Trump in five of six swing states. I don't believe that person. That's spin as hell, right? Like, what are you going to say? You're not going to be like, oh, a message from the campaign.

We're fucking, we don't know what to do. Oh, everybody hates it. Like, you're gonna be confident. You're gonna say that, you know, we don't believe the polls, we're doing great. But internally, they have to be freaking out. Like, they know, right? Surely, surely they have to be freaking out.

Or they're just doubling down. I mean, you know, there's- Being optimistic, I know. It's hard down. I mean, yeah, you know, there's being optimistic. I know it's hard to it's hard to gauge polls. Polls are famously wrong, especially the last couple of years. So their argument, I guess, if you're the Biden campaign, here's what they're saying. I'm not believing. Yeah. But here's what they would say. They're saying all that stuff about like young people bailing. That's based on just registered voters and not likely voters. If you pull likely voters, it's the

same as 2020. 18 to 29 year olds are going hardcore for Biden. Oh, even when it was close in 2020? And then there's the overcorrection argument that the polls really undercounted Trump voters in 2016 and 2020. So they've overcorrected for that. And now it's showing Trump doing way better than he actually is in the very states that Biden needs to win. I think you overcorrect. I'm curious. I don't understand this enough to because it seems to me that our takeaway with some of the past polling was that perhaps people that are voting for

Trump are less likely to participate in polls or aren't being reached. I understand the overcorrection theory, but I don't know. No one seems happy with the man. No, I think they're depending, they're imagining that there will be this phenomena where everyone decides, you know, at the last minute, like, actually, Trump is a fucking insane maniac and we can't let this happen. And well, I do agree that Trump is a fucking insane maniac. I think it's erroneous to assume that people do not know that, you know, like, I think that people, like, I think that we all lived through him for four years. It was insane. I think that people are aware and making their choices in light of a pretty good amount of information.

One would hope I do feel like there is an element of like, forgetting about it, in the sense of like, he's not posting as much and when he does, it's on truth social. He's not doing his rallies as much and he does, he's not as prominent. And I do feel like as things ramp up and like, you know, if they're going to debate, we'll talk about that or whatever. Apparently they are. And this is not this is nothing to do with Joe Biden at all, just in the sense of Trump, like, Joe Biden at all, just in the sense of Trump, like he will be worse. He gets worse all the time.

He learns like, oh, a new, oh, I gotta say the woke mind virus now, whatever. Like he'll ramp it up to whatever, and he will be vocally worse as we get close to the election, and I think some people might be like, oh, right, I can't do this anymore. Um, or again, but who knows? Maybe listen to the people who are saying that your genocide is bad. I definitely have had that same thought that he's been a little out of sight, out of mind,

not on people's timelines and the same visceral way. However, you hear is like, oh, he's asleep in his trial or whatever. However, Joe Biden's very unpopular, and I think that people don't like either, and. Oh, no, the bet is simply people hate Trump more than they hate Joe Biden, and that's not a safe bet. I don't know the answer to that. I don't know that that's true. I mean, I think they don't like him.

But in an election with two incredibly unpopular candidates, it's basically like, like who do you hate the least right? Who do you hate the least? But he's less fresh and yes as he's out there Running his trap more Perhaps he's gonna talk about those imprisoning Whatever yeah, I think that there's such a level of dissatisfaction in general that people are like fuck it Gaslit by this guy or gas lit by that one the one that's supposed to be on our side. I don't know Yeah I mean people just keep saying to you that like the war on Gaza is not affecting things that much and bullshit

I I really doubt that like I don't I don't, I don't even, I don't think that they're capturing in the polls how mad people are about this. Obviously it's by its nature, not a database point, but my sense is that people are pretty pissed off about this and it could be the people I know, but I think a lot of people are, yeah. I think they are too.

So much of the Biden camp bet seems to just be like, well, as we get closer, people will weigh their options and think like, well, Trump's gonna be worse on this, Trump's gonna be worse on this. And like, I'm not even gonna argue against that point because Trump's awful on all these issues. And I think the bet is simply like,

oh, they'll come around and they'll realize like, well, it would be worse, So we got to do this. And I just don't know if that's like safe bet to make your you want to be the president again. You've got like the you got to you got to like work hard. You can't just hope that people remember that the other guy sucks. Yeah. But maybe you can. We certainly can hope. Yeah, I feel like when it comes to Trump, like and this is partially the way I'm curating my life because I don't really care to hear Donald Trump or see what

he's talking about because he says very violent and frightening things and I don't want to be scared all the time. So the stuff I do see is just the funny stuff and I do worry about how I'm curating that because like I've watched him talk about the late great Hannibal Lecter a bunch of times now, because I find it's like the funniest thing I've seen. But I know, but then I was like, should I pitch it for this episode or try to include it? And I was like, I think the last like five times we played anything from Trump, it was just something funny. Like it was just like him going like grapefruit in

my eye or whatever. Like it's always just some nonsense. But like Gettysburg. Wow. Wow. We talked about Gettysburg. We did. Yeah. Right. Like it's hard to avoid. So like, OK, but look, not that I'm in danger of thinking that Trump maybe Trump's just funny and we can go with it. Like obviously that's not the case.

But that's kind of what people are at at the moment is like, he's hilarious. And we're laughing at him, not with him. But. And in between that stuff, he's saying like, he's going to be a dictator on day one. He's going to lock up the fucking, you know, everybody's going to, uh, sent. Yeah. Like when I watch, I can't even talk, I just get angry because I'm like, you idiot. Like, what are you doing? But when I watch Trump, I get like very frightened. So I don't want to do that. So you would hope that Joe Biden would start making like

the positive case of like, here's why you shouldn't like hate me so much. He seems very blase about the fact that everyone under 45 thinks he's genocide Joe. Yeah, he really doesn't seem to. Yeah, it isn't too breaking through yeah, he doesn't seem to be breaking through. And he won't make the positive case because then the positive case, especially to young people, involves him going to locations like college campuses where he's going to be heavily protested.

And it's just like, I don't see there being a way for him to really like make this case like while it's still going on, like if it stops, like if he decides, like all of a sudden, you know, I've had it with this Netanyahu motherfucker and I'm putting an end to this and you know, like kind of get really serious and cutting them off. And like, yeah, I do think that, you know, he could do the liberal tour of mistakes were made, you know?

It doesn't, there's absolutely no reason to believe that that's on his dance card. No, no, no, no, no. It's like to the point earlier of like, I guess it was you, Kate, someone they don't think that it's that big of a deal to everybody or they don't think that the vast majority of voters are that swayed by it. Well, first off, I don't believe that that's true, but let's just say that there's, you know, pockets of people that don't have strong opinions one way or the other. Those are probably people that are kind of apolitical, maybe. Or, you know,

but the people that really bring it home for Joe Biden and the people that you're going to want in this obviously incredibly close race. Modern Republicans. My. Oh, seriously. But it's like the moderate Republican. Yeah. Anyway. Sorry. All right.

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your next month while your subscription is active. Get it, get it, get it. And we're back from ads. Yeah, we are. There is the, I would say, centrist argument. I think I've seen people like Maddie Glaciers talk about this, where if Biden did, if Biden gave us everything we wanted and did this about face and it's like, I'm pulling all the support that there would be because there are many Zionist Democrats or at the very

least pro-Israel Democrats in general who would not be happy about that. I think they're always making the gamble with young people who are angry instead of the moderates because I don't like, like when I read that opinion, I was thinking, wait, do you think someone's going to flip from Biden to Trump because Biden's pulling some support from Israel? Because I don't think a moderate Democrat, like they hate Trump more than anything. They're mad at anyone who would be mad at Biden about something in an election year. So I don't understand that argument that they'll bail from him if he switches. It's a trick. You know, like, I mean, they can.

Because I remember even when the pause was announced of that shipment and so many people came out like so, Biden loves Hamas now, the terrorist Joe Biden loving Hamas. And like, I think that just the threat of like moderate Democrats or whatever not voting is like to the it's just seen as more reasonable and thought out because they fucking hate young people and leftists. That's like so where so much of it comes from. They hate them. And so if they're protesting something, then they're protesting badly or the wrong way or they're like pushing people away, whatever.

If they're saying that they're going to withhold their vote unless this happens, then that's because they're being childish and they don't understand democracy or this or this or this. But if reasonable Democrats say like, well, if Joe Biden does this, I might I might not vote for him. Then that is something to be concerned about. Just because it's just tribe stuff. It's camp stuff. It seems to me, I don't know if Maddie Glasey is listening, please like, correct me.

He definitely listens. Yep. Yeah, it just seems so much of just like, it depends. It just depends on who is saying it. And if, you know, moderate Democrats like Joe Hamas love and Joe, then that's like, oh, we got to maybe we should rethink this because they're going to withhold their vote strategically. There's such smart democracy enjoyers, but I don't know, maybe I'm just being cynical and dismissive of

centrist enlightenment. I don't know. I think you're correct. I think that like, you know, the way this like centrist, like the, the moderate the moderate voter, the white suburban voter, that stereotype gets deployed is just always in favor of what corporations in the State Department want to do. It's way easier to say, oh, we have to appeal to the moderate voters versus we need to appeal to the weapons manufacturers and the insurance companies like this kind of like moderate Nikki Haley type voter. That's like the ideal demographic where coincidentally their interests just all happen to align with

exactly what the state department and these companies want to do. So it's like, but I think that it is real to some extent and, you know, in the sense that like, I have, you know, seen and heard of real people who have decided, you know, to like switch to voting for Trump, honestly, and not even just because Joe Biden has been too hard on Israel. He hasn't. But also because the protests and just the general mood of the Democratic Party at this point, of the base is- And the far left Democrats, yeah. Yeah, well, just even regular kind of liberal progressives

at this point have pretty much had it with all of the kid killing. They don't think it's good. They're not willing to withhold their vote over it, but they're uncomfortable with it. And I think the people who are like real enthusiastic about it are reconsidering if the Democratic Party is right for them.

Is as bloodthirsty as they hoped. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, it might not be in like 10 years, maybe even five years. Right, well, exactly, yeah. Like it's not moving in that direction, I don't think. I don't know. No, I mean like it's not it's not moving in that direction. I don't think, you know, I don't know. No, I mean, it's it's very clear that,

you know, Joe Biden's kind of holding onto that party for dear life. It's like he's got this grip on it. And once he's dead, however that happens, that grip will loosen and somebody else will be seen as the leader of the party or at least some sort of movement forward. But I mean, no one's gonna like this answer, but probably AOC if she's still around, right?

Yeah. I don't mean nobody's gonna like the answer. I think I have a lot of listeners who like her and I'm sure they have criticism of her. But like, yeah, probably her. She's very popular broadly, even though you'll see like, yeah, probably her. She's very popular, broadly, even though you'll see like, again, this sort of like, centrist sort of like poking at her and dismissive of like, far left idiots or

whatever. But she's likable and articulate and generally for at least surface level, the things that the future of the party has purported to say they are moving towards in the past. Yeah, but I don't know. If they want to win elections, then yeah, that'll be the way it goes. But you know, the other way it could go, like where almost where I see it going like more realistically is just like the Republican Party keeps getting more and more fascistic. You know, and they're just threatening like, well, do you really want this? You really want them to drone strike people who tried to cross the border? Well, then you better vote for somebody who just wants to life in prison the people who tried to cross the border, you know? Exactly. Like there are these two like two paths, basically, like the moderating Democratic Party that Joe Biden clearly wants to be and then the actual future

that could actually like combat the GOP in an effective way by offering something good. Well, one thing's for sure. We're all about to have lots of fun with our two debates coming up. Oh, they're doing it. Now they are doing it. Now they are doing it. They're not doing it. They're tradition. They're not letting them be produced by the commission on presidential debates.

Both the R.N.C. and Biden were like, no, I'm good. And there's not going to be any audience. Mm hmm. They're going to use the candidates when they're not speaking. Is that correct? That's going to be the most uncomfortable debate ever. Like just silence while these two old goats just like say like stream a stream of consciousness.

Like God, that's miserable. I mean, it'll be fun. Like a team, like a team debate. They should have like Donald Trump and like destiny, you know? Yeah. Well, yeah, you're allowed to bring one hype man mm-hmm I think that should be okay and like maybe you know uh Joe Biden and like oh man who do we want as Joe Biden's Joe Scarborough. We could present his favorite Joe in the world.

That would work. That would work. And then destiny on the other side, kid rock or whoever. Norfolk will see you. Yeah. Right now, the first debates on CNN June 27th. That's a Thursday. So it's happening after we record. So unless I don't know, we're going to live stream it. Talk about that. Cause it feels like a, I know Jonathan included in the notes is like, well, lucky for us, we'll have already recorded. I'm like,

I feel like we're going to have to do something special that week. I don't think we can not talk about whatever the fuck that's going to be. Cause it's going to be like, I mean, I'm thinking back to the 20, just the 2020 debates were so horrific. And like, if you take away, like they can't, it's just like silence from the other one. And then like, I, I just, their brains are melting more. What is that going to be? What are they going to yell about at each other?

The entire thing is going to be sponsored by whatever cocktail. Right. Like this is like who's going to get pumped full of what? Like how will that interact with the other guy getting pumped full of something else? And I don't want to assume, but they're both pumped full of stuff to speak. Right. Yeah, absolutely. Neither of them are human anymore. They're they're. Like, I mean, I got full of chemicals and preservatives and probably metal rods.

Yeah, I don't want to get too much into this because it's, you know, it's just like depressing and like maybe they're more capable than some clips seem to indicate. But I just like I saw like Biden did some posts, some video and he was like, ah, I'll take you down Trump in the debates. I'm the strong guy. And it was just like tough guy sort of commercial.

Before he falls over. But there were like, there was like a cut every like two seconds. And it's like, part of it is like, you're trying to be like active and the way clips, like clips are clipped and edited together and stuff. A part of it is like, how many sentences could he get through without needing to cut to the thing? Every like state of the union now, you just see all these people like, oh, he got through it. Look at, oh, look at the capable president.

He really got through it. It's like, what are we where the bar is that he got through the written speech? That's like the most important one of the year. And like now, like it's just, I don't even know what this is gonna be. He only said one slur. Like it's like congratulations to the, yeah exactly. Yeah.

Yeah. And then he, I privately apologize for the slur later. Like. Are you upset Cody that you don't get such accolades after the six hours of talking or whatever it is that you do every once every. Nobody praises me. He really read from that teleprompter. They really read from it for a few minutes.

I listen to warbo talk. It's a whole thing. Yeah. People are impressed by. Praise me, Mr. Biden. He's got feisty grandpa vibes and nobody, I mean, like that whole, like, I'm sorry to Trump. Yeah, he kind of has no, you're right. He does have feisty grandpa vibes, but I feel like that's a show. It's almost like he's got he used to be a feisty grandpa. Oh, yeah. No, he's like, you know, I'm like, like leading into that. I want to project that, but he's tired. Yeah. I mean,

he challenged that guy to push up contest. Like he used to be fiery and mean and weird, but now he's just weird and I guess fiery mean, I don't know. He sucks, but whatever. We'll see how they talk to each other. Speaking of feisty grandpa, I don't know if Bill Maher's grandpa. I don't I was just grasping at straws here. We're going to talk about Bill Burr and Bill Maher. So you may have seen some clips of this.

Bill Burr was on Bill Maher's Club Random podcast. So random. So stupid name. So random. You guys, they had a wide-ranging conversation. The Bacon Podcast. Sorry. And they started talking about Gaza, and it is very amusing to hear Bill Burr talk to Bill Maher. It's very funny. I'll preface this with, by mentioning another clip

that happened another time Bill Burr was on a Bill Maher show. And he just seemed, Bill Maher seems to just have this, like, need to have Bill Burr was on a Bill Maher show. And he just seemed, Bill Maher seems to just have this like need to have Bill Burr agree with him on stuff. He was on real time once and basically Bill Maher was like as an aside, like, and the college campuses these days, isn't like the woke stuff and like the the cancel culture, isn't that like, isn't it wild now? And Bill Mar is just like, what? No, what are you talking about? No, it's a comedy show.

Like people get mad. What are you talking about? Like you just like people get mad. They're mad for a couple of days. They move on. You go and have a good time at a comedy show. It's fine. And just like shutting it down. And you can tell Mars is like, but I thought we were going to be friends.

He's like, I thought this was gonna be a slam dunk. Yeah. And it's funny to watch it happen again, but about something even more like actually serious other than college kids getting mad at a comedy show. You don't realize that college campuses erupted with the kids demonstrating for Hamas? Stop it. Stop the clip. OK. Bill Maher, what the fuck are you talking about? It is actually kind of it's bizarre to see in like May of 2024, him still saying like, if you have anything to say about this issue

that isn't 100% pro-Israel, then you are for Hamas and a terrorist. Like this is a guy who was a lot, not only was he alive during and after 9-11, he was already an adult. Like it's wild to me to see like, there are like kids on college campuses and kids in high school who recognize this like,

oh, so you support the terrorist bullshit that they were babies during and they understand that this is an absurd claim to me. And just look at the every reporting of it. I mean, maybe not every reporting, but it's very demonstrably false. And you are just ignoring it couldn't be more clear it couldn't be more clear you are an incurious moron Bill Maher or basically if you still think this you know very bad faith obviously both of those things sorry Kate you had something I just wanted to remind you guys of something that I feel like is very relevant here, which is that he actually got his show politically correct before it became the ABC show, before it became the HBO show.

He got, he had his show. Got canceled. He got canceled because he actually didn't tow the line on, you know, the position. He called them brave. He called the terrorists brave. Yeah, he said that they're not cowards. He's like, you can call them a lot of things, but you can't call them cowards.

And people decided that that was a pro-terrorist, disrespectful opinion. And he paid the price for it. Sounds like he learned his lesson. Maybe he learned his lesson. Exactly. Yeah, it's very embarrassing for him. I did actually forget about that in this context. I did too.

Especially because like it is like, you were an adult when it happened, you saw it going on, you experienced it firsthand. And you're like, these college kids, they're pro-Hamas and they're terrorists. It's absurd. What a damn fool, I guess. We can continue, but what a damn fool.

They are in with the terrorists. They were for the Palestinians. Well, it's sort of the same cause. Why are you? Um, I'm on the side of the kids. Wait, pause it. Sorry. So like, for listeners, so Bill Burr said, you know, well, they're not for Hamas, they're for the Palestinians. And Bill Maher said, well, it's kind of the same thing. And Bill Burr stared at him in silence.

While we obviously said, no, that's not true. But like, it just. You can tell what a fucking moron Burr thinks he is, and we also can also see that. And it's very funny. We talked over his response slightly. But Bill Burr says, I'm for the kids. Yeah, I did. He did say that. I'm with the kids. I think I'm with the kids, I think he said. I'm with the kids.

Yeah. Which kids? I think he means the protesters. He means the protesters, and Mar takes it to mean like, oh, you're worried about the dead kids, because he's a fucking dipshit. Yeah, those too. Yeah.

All right. Play. Why, are you? I'm on the side of the kids. Yeah, that's easy to say. No one wants to see kids dead. This is a war. That was very brave of you to say this. This is a war.

No, I'm the one who was actually brave on this. Pat yourself on the back. It's easy to say I'm for the kids. Who's not for the kids? Well, I don't understand to rate you. You aren't. You, Bill. You.

Stop talking like you're a general. A country got attacked. Israel got attacked. I'm not. Stop talking like you're a general. A country got attacked. Israel got attacked. I'm not saying that they didn't have a right to go back. I'm just sitting there going like, how do I look at. The only country in the world that they get attacked. And then as soon as they counterattack, it's like, well, we got to stop this shit now. Don't attack them is a very simple solution to all this.

I get really irritated by that, too, when it's like as soon as soon as they counterattack, everyone's like, because that's not true. Everybody was like very supportive of Israel in the wake of the attack. A lot of us were horrified and saw the writing of the war, what was about to happen. But like, it's such, yeah, go ahead. Well, because also like that really pinged me too, because, well, hey, again, Mar, you're a coward and a damn fool. Oh, he's brave.

Saying that, oh, it's easy to say, you know, the kids, but like as soon as they're attacked, it's May, Bill. These protests are going on now. What are you talking about? It's like, nobody is able to have this conversation in the present. It's always like, oh, immediately this happens. Like, well, that was months ago, or like, well,

a decade ago. But also it didn't immediately happen. I was like, no, no, no, what about now? No, I know, exactly. It didn't immediately happen because I, not to bring fucking social media, but in the wake of it, cause like some of us and those of us that this show have been, you know, concerned with Gaza

and this Palestine and Israel for a long time. We've made episodes about this years prior to it that are a shockingly topical. And, you know, but everybody was in support of Israel. And I don't know. It just was a really that's just such a dishonest framing of what happened. And it really frustrates me. But a lot of people say immediately there's backlash. But it's just not true.

Immediately there were people who knew what was going to happen. That is the case. Well, they also said what was going to happen. I mean, the minister Yoav Gawant comes out and said, you know, we've got to cut off the electricity. We've got to cut off the food and the water. We're fighting human animals. Even if you didn't have a deep historical understanding

of the situation, they said what they were going to do. And they proceeded to do it. And again, like what he's talking about is the protests. Right. What he's like, what he's like evoking is like, well, that was seven months ago. It's still going on. Why are you talking? Why are you complaining, why are you complaining about what somebody said like immediately after?

We're talking about right now. Also, I have to, I have to just say, like, it's just so pathetic for Bill Maher, who is on HBO and has been for years and years and years, claimed to be the brave one when he is saying the things that both parties in the country are saying. Like, what is brave about being pro-Israel in this moment right now when both parties are 100% behind it? The woke mob will come for him, Cody. Like, that is not brave, Bill. You are on HBO and you're saying what the State Department wants you to say.

What? It was brave of you to say that the thing about fucking 9-11 when you got fired. But like, like, God, what are you doing? Just a sad little display of of hit specifically Bill Maher's in curiosity. He is so uninterested in finding anything out. He's only interested in being right. Before we finish this clip, and this is gonna be a visual thing,

apologies to the listeners, should we get this set up? These chairs and a little table with some booze on it. It looks very cool. The polka dot cushions and the- When we start doing our filmed podcast for sure, let's just get this set exactly. A little purple light back here. Those are so ugly. When we start doing our filmed podcast for sure, let's just get this set exactly.

A little purple light back here. Those are so ugly. These chairs are so ugly. Well, they're random. They are random! That's where the random comes in. Problem in the Middle East. Stop attacking Israel. Hey, you just solved it. I actually did.

That's fantastic. This is why this is not your thing. Make some hard notes. Hey, you just solved it. Stop attacking Israel. I did. I actually did. There you go. That's fantastic. This is why this is not your thing. Make some hard notes. This is my thing. It's not your thing. It's my thing.

It isn't your thing. You're like that guy that has a fantasy football team and thinks he's a fucking GM. No. No. That's exactly what it is. Like, why am I fucking listening to you like you've done something? What have you done in Washington? Nothing. Okay. That's right. What have you done in Washington? Nothing. OK.

That's right. It's good. It's so funny. The entire episode is just you can just feel the contempt that Burr has for Mar the entire time is very, very funny. But like also, like, yeah, like more, you're not making any point really beyond like the broad idea that like, you're right. It's a very telling to see that interaction and it's not brave of you, Bill,

to agree with both guys who want to be the president. Yeah. Absurd. We're kind of at the end of our time here. Do you want to, what do you want to finish things up with, Cody, you want to talk about? Oh, I think we briefly talk about so. I don't know. Hey, listeners, warm bows on Twitter, Rex. He has an account as we revealed in the episode that aired this week,

and he has a Twitch account, too. And maybe we're going to be streaming from that Twitch account at some point. Who knows? Who knows? Who knows? But if you want to follow Warmbow. Sure, and in doing that, so in, I was like, oh yeah, people are following the account now, so maybe I'll be more active. So I logged into his account and

watchers of that particular episode about Elon's Nazi fucking bullshit, Warmbow, the account, only follows Joe Biden and NASA. And I checked in with his feed and it is worse than it was before. It is literally just like racist, racist, racist meme, racist meme, racist meme, stuff about the Jews. A lot of stuff about how everybody's an evil Jew. There every five tweets was Nick Fuentes. Like, I'm not exaggerating, just like they want you to see Nick Fuentes. Like I'm not exaggerating,

just like they want you to see Nick Fuentes' tweets now. It is worse and I was actually kind of blown away. I was like scrolling like, oh, warmbo stuff. Like what's going on? Let's see what ads we're seeing. But it's just racists and Nazis like Nick Fuentes who just got reinstated on the site. And I was just very alarmed and it's gross. And but I guess follow warmbo. He's fun. And I just wanted

to sort of give an update on the state of the front page of X, which is not available to anybody to actually see. You have to make an account and pay a dollar a year or whatever. That's a terrible update. But thank you. I'm sorry. The real warmbo on Twitter. Yeah. Because there's another warmbo. That's not the real warmbo. There are a few fakes out there, but you want the real shit.

Warmbo's our puppet. He's run away from home at the moment. He is on his own. He's just a little guy. He's in the show. Oh, I love him. He's cute. I don't appreciate his racism, I guess.

Oh, no, he's not racist. It's just his defeat. Yeah. So like the accounts that like the the algorithm wants to show. OK, what I thought happened is somebody like made like a sock puppet account of him. Oh, no, that makes so much more sense. No, this is a fake account I made for this fake character for our show. And it's like a sort follows Joe Biden and NASA. He doesn't follow Warmbow, I do.

He follows Joe Biden and NASA. And so the feed you'd think the algorithm would show you science stuff or politics. No, it's just Nick Fuentes sweeps and Nazis and stuff. Yeah, no, it doesn't. It shows Nick Fuentes. It does not do that. So that's fun. That's a fun development for all of us.

That's a fun development. Just a little update there. You can't avoid it. We could do a fun... for all of us. Just a little update there. You can't avoid it. We could do a fun, these comments are funny, instead of the depressing warm bow update that Jonathan you put in there. Oh sure, so our recent episode on Summer News is about bots and scams and how the internet's

just turning into bots talking to each other, so immediately I took some screenshots of some of the bots that commented on YouTube. On the video. I don't know how they do it, they just see anything new that comes up and they just comment. Boy, both of these pictures are but no one's a boob and one's boobs, one's but and the first one says, I watch your channel with pleasure.

Your videos feature interesting content and professional execution, which is certainly something that any human being would say. Some emojis. That's how people talk. That's how people talk. Some random emojis. Wind tunnel, somebody surfing and the German one. Yeah, then there's a German one. The second one is the leadership. The dishes, Gasprak, Antrieb is spur bar and in fact, Flamma,

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That's bots, baby. OK, well. Thank you for sharing. I just didn't want to end on Twitter's Nazis now. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And and boobs and butts. No, we did it. We we talked about stuff. We had fun. We you immediately worked in the Sigma male stuff,

so I'm still blown away by that. Oh, yeah. He's in the Nazis, too. The Sigma male. Yeah, big time. Big time. No question. Kate, please tell our listeners where they can find you, plug the things, all the things. So I am on Instagram at Kate.Willett with two L's and two T's. That's where I post a lot of my tour dates and my show schedules and stuff. I tour all around, so I'm probably coming to your city soon. And I have this new, brand new special out on Amazon, Apple TV, YouTube.

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