Some More News - Even More News: Regular People Hate This ICE Sh*t

Episode Date: January 16, 2026

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Hi, I am back. And today on the show, we talk about ICE, writing in Minneapolis, the agency's shoddy recruitment strategy, and what Democrats should do to rein in slash defun slash abolish it. Oh, hello and welcome back to even more news, the first and only news podcast. I'm Katie Stoll. Oh, I was going to lip sync to you saying, hi, I'm Cody. Johnston is the name of me and here we are doing this introduction to the show. Hello. I lip sync to you. It was great. Jonathan is also here. Hi. How is everyone? Everyone's doing great today. Hello. Hi. Perfect. Hi. Hi. How's it going everybody? How are you? Couldn't tell what you were saying until you moved that book but now here we are. Oh yeah. I wasn't sure if it was Jonathan but it was indeed Jonathan. Don't worry, folks. We weren't trying to fool yet.

No masked Jonathan's on this show. Absolutely not. Well, first off, I want to thank you guys for holding down the fort for me on Monday. The fort for us. I apologize for my absence. We love this fort. We wouldn't want anything to happen to the fort. I wouldn't want anything to happen to the fort. I felt bad for not being there, but I had an exciting day. What? What happened? What happened? Why are we gone? How big were they? My two identical baby nephews were born over the weekend, late Sunday night, early Monday.

And so that's why I was not here. Congratulations. Thank you. Welcome to the world. Phoenix and Leon. I think the phrase I used was a happy emergency or something like that. A happy emergency. Which is like, yeah, I guess.

but like that's a weird way to phrase it. So apologies for the confusion. I think that's the perfect. Well, it was. I'm going to take a few minutes right now just to say a quick story because ultimately I find it very heartwarming. It is a, it is and was a happy emergency. The babies were due a month from now. One of the babies has, you know, some complications, a little heart thing.

And they needed to come early. and then the coming early inducing labor turned into a C-section. And, you know, so it was a little bit dramatic. Baby's still in the NICU, but he's doing well, and we're all really positive and hopeful. But here's the cute story. It was all pretty chaotic because this was not how the plan was supposed to go. And my mom had driven down, like in a hurry to try to get things to help out. And it turns out that there's this bankers conference in San Francisco and everything's booked up and surge pricing.

It's really hard to find a place to stay. And this is being drawn out over multiple days. So I come to help out and find my mom a place that's safe. Because also she hasn't been in San Francisco and so long and driving and fatigue. She doesn't know how to call a lift or like order food or any of that stuff. So I found her a hotel, but near the hospital. but it was the second night was going to be really, really, really expensive. And I went up and talked to the manager and I just explained the situation.

And this kind man gave us the best discount, made us feel so welcome and safe. He was like, you're not with J.P. Morgan and Chase, right? And I'm like, no, I swear, definitely not. And anyway, my mom was really, really touched and she really needed that space to stay in the midst of the chaos. while we were really worried about our babies. And I just want to express my extreme gratitude to the Luma Hotel in San Francisco. And specifically to Kevin, shout out to Kevin. I could cry already again.

You have no idea what a gift you gave my family so that my mom didn't have to drive on no sleep an hour outside of the city to find a place to stay. And, you know, anyway, very touched. It's just a little bit of a reminder that there is a lot. of humanity out there and that it feels like there's greed and anger and hatred everywhere, but there are really, really good people. And thank you, Kevin, and Luma Hotel. Also, it's a really nice hotel, so very fun. Did you tell Kevin about this show?

Yeah, I did. Oh, so he's... Well, no, I didn't tell Kevin about this show. I told somebody else about this show. I said, I'm going to say thank you on my show. so Kevin might not hear this heartfelt thank you but he if any if anybody knows Kevin at the Luma hotel please send him this clip I am wearing the same sweater that I wore all weekend actually you recognize your cell? Yeah yeah Kevin so you'll recognize me I do have other clothes okay

anyway now the news but you mentioned the hatred and the vitriol and stuff back to that I think maybe we got a okay well I guess I'll kick it off with all that because ICE, the president's secret police force, those guys, they went on a little bit of a riot in Minneapolis on Wednesday night after another shooting and ICE agent shot another person in Minneapolis. We don't have video of that one. So all that I have to go on is what DHS said. So apparently, they shot someone in the leg who was trying to escape

an agent and then when the agent caught up with that suspect two other men jumped out of the shadows apparently knowing where they would be and started attacking the agent with a snow shovel and broom handle so DHS says the agent feared for his life and shot

the man in the leg and protests continued after that and then federal agents fired tear gas and flashbang grenades and children got maced and tear gassed as their parent was trying to get them out of the area and there's tons of clips footage you can see ice attack protesters and uh it's out of control yeah they it's madness this is creating so much chaos for just local law enforcement

to have to deal with i heard an interview on the daily or whatever with the police chief Minneapolis talking about just this I mean obviously the fact that none of this is going the way it is they aren't following any sort of safety protocols about management of crowds in these operations in these raids how they're dealing with protesters they are not using any training that law enforcement has in order to to safely manage this kind of situation deescalate etc but they are creating chaos cars just police reports of cars of cars being abandoned in the middle of the streets with babies, with dogs inside of them. And so now the law enforcement has to come. And of course, it's Minneapolis. And there's also

a lot of distrust of the law enforcement already. And who's to say it's chaos? And it's not like people are, they are creating so much chaos that it's, it's just impossible for them to stay on top of it. This is deeply unsafe. Katie, I will push back just slightly in that when it is local police managing protesters on the street it tends to look exactly like this

I'm not going to disagree with you I'm not disagree with you at all but I am regurgitating what was said and you know

to this man's point is that they have been trying to implement changes in the years since George Floyd whether or not

they have or have not any training that they've tried to for example not doing chokeholds or You know, is out the window in terms of these ice agents coming in and doing whatever they want.

And this is not me saying, the police are your friends here because obviously they're not. What I'm trying to say is that there is valid distrust of the police. So that's not necessarily, or that isn't de-escalating anything because people don't trust the police anymore than they trust fucking ice. Yeah. Yeah, they don't trust ice. They don't trust the police. But that is a good pushback, Jonathan. and good for clarification.

Yeah, there's, these people feel like they've been abandoned by their city and their state, right? Tim Walz goes out there, Jacob Frey, the mayor gets out there and says we want ICE out of here. We can't, you know, keep people safe and do our jobs. Ice is creating chaos. But they're definitely feeling the constraints of what they can do. And clearly they're afraid of the feds. gangs that have been sent to Minneapolis, right? It's not like the police are trying to arrest the ICE agents that are rioting in the streets. So people, you know, correctly feel like they're

on their own. They've been left to try and protect themselves as best they can as ICE is going door to door and pulling people out of cars. And I will say trying to make a show of it, right? We know what Trump and Miller want to do here. They want to make a big show of it. Trump. has threatened to use or invoke the Insurrection Act again they clearly want to do that whether or not it's actually a good idea politically for them to do this is clearly what they want to do the ostensible goal of what ICE is doing there is a smokescreen you know it's very hard to not see that escalation happening because people are under attack and you can't expect a

and Minnesota Minneapolis has remained remarkably civil in the face of all this in the face of babies getting tear gassed the worst I've seen even some of the chirons

the most they can say is the protesters set off fireworks in the street through some snowballs at ice agents and then once agents abandoned their cars there the people went through the cars

and took their vests and notebooks and stuff in 2020 they burned down a police station which I think the majority of people approved of at the time at the time that's true they did um yeah it's it's chaotic and then they lie and then that deteriorates trust even more and then it's just a i kind of wanted to because you there's that incident that you described based on the dhs uh statement Yeah.

And I kind of wanted to contrast that with what DHS originally said about what happened to Renee Good. Because there was a tweet from the DHS account before there was any video of it. And I think it's enlightening a little bit. They decided to not do a meme because maybe they thought this was more serious than... No racist Nazi meme. No racist Nazi meme. Unless, I mean, maybe we count like the number of letters. and yeah, whatever. Today, ice officers in Minneapolis were conducting targeted operations

already. I thought you're going to door, I thought you're going to door to door, going door to door, asking for people. That's not targeted operations. Sorry, right off the bat, not doing great. Today, ice officers in Minneapolis were conducting targeted operations when rioters began blocking ice officers. Well, just waving people along. Just wave the ice officers along. and one of these violent rioters weaponized her vehicle backed up pulled away attempting to run over

our law enforcement officers wasn't attempting to run him over in an attempt to kill them wasn't attempting to kill them an act of domestic terrorism that's not what that is an ice officer fearing for his life I don't think he did

the lives of his fellow law enforcement the safety of the public fired defensive shots into a car in the middle of the street for the safety of the public apparently he used his training and saved his own life and that of his fellow officers. The alleged perpetrator was hit and is deceased.

The ICE officers who were hurt are expected to make full recoveries. Yeah, this is the direct consequences, direct consequence of constant attacks and demonization of our officers by sanctuary politicians who fuel and encouraged rampant and stalls, etc., and so forth, et cetera, and so forth. My point being, that every part of that beginning of the tweet is wrong, was a lie, was a blatant lie about what happened, even if you think, even if you think that the shooting was justified, which it was not,

it still lie after lie, after lie, after lie, after lie of what happened. Except for the part where the ICE officers are expected to make full recoveries, because that's true. Jonathan Ross made a full recovery, apparently from his, quote, internal bleeding.

He's doing great after the internal bleeding. Did you guys on Monday talk about the officer's point of view video of how her last words were I'm not mad at you man what were his final words to her after fucking bitch yeah it's very apparent what was going on

feared for his life apparently and then kept filming while he shot her and called her fucking bitch classic training by the book fearing for your life behavior the training that very clearly was wrong out of the gate as this is continuing

this is still going on six federal prosecutors quit this week after the Department of Justice started an investigation into Renee Good and her wife instead of starting a civil rights investigation into the murder of her. They obviously are career prosecutors there. They still need to like make the system work

and these people refuse to go along with it and resigned. Most notably, Joseph H. Thompson, who was second in command in that local U.S. Attorney's Office, and he's one of the people who led the huge Minnesota fraud probe that they're all pretending to care so much about. So now they're putting someone else in charge of rooting out that fraud because the guy who was actually in charge of that of doing the work left because he wouldn't investigate Becca good. Well, they're insurrectionists for not doing the investigation into the widow of somebody

murdered by the state. Well, you've got to try to tie them to, you know, domestic terror groups. And the best they've come up with is that Renee Good volunteered or was on the board of her son's school in the area. And that school had given people information about like know your rights, what to do if ICE is in the neighborhood, which itself is like, I mean, they're really trying to get people on board with like huge jumps. Yeah, I mean, it's terrifying. Well, that's what this presidential memorandum, what is it?

I always forget the letters. D.S. P.S.m. 7. Whatever it is, you know what I'm. It's not the D.S. The last two are presidential memorandum, whatever. Yeah. The point of that thing is to create the designation of terrorists and make it really broad and really vague.

You can apply it in any number of ways. not having traditional values or whatever the fuck that means. It's crazy. And what's happening is that they've given themselves a broad license to investigate people in any way and to make it seem. You can skew it. You can skew that board meeting that says, oh, we're just trying to get our parents together to understand how we can protect students at our schools and make sure no child is. abducted on school grounds, which is a really noble, wonderful thing to do. And they're going to try

to spin that as terrorist activity. Yeah, no, she's a member of the French 75. That is what they are implying. It's a lot of dumb scum is trying to perpetuate. It's what it's obviously absurd. And it's hard to tell how much of it actually works with the general public, because you know, you'll see it online. We can talk about polling. But it's terrifying to see. how they just double down, double down on the lies until those lies start to take hold. Yeah, the polls, there have been some encouraging polls this week. The majority of people are not buying this stuff. So there's a new UGov Economist poll, which is the first poll, I think, that's ever shown net

positive support for abolishing ICE 46 to 43. Which is interesting because it's abolish. Oh, yeah. Abolish is playing right now as much as there are some. groups who say you can't say abolished that's poison to Democrats. But I think in general people don't like seeing masked thugs on their street beating up people and tear gassing kids. Yeah. It's becoming very clear that ICE is functionally Donald Trump's army slash police and that is what they are going to be doing. That's how their, why their recruitment is so lax. Yeah. And there's just good polling

results is Zateo survey says a majority of Americans or a majority of likely voters do not think the murder was justified among independence. It's 58 to 30. So it's not like, you know, it's not everyone. The number of people who think it is justified is still way too high. But you've got MAGA and not much else. And the way that they're all talking about her and, uh, and, uh, and, uh, is just like really disgusting. And I think that that, just that slimy way that all these like right wing blue check people, the way they talk, uh, is really off putting, especially when you see a video of somebody like representing the state shoots a woman in the face.

Um, and they're like, well, this, this reminds me of every teacher I didn't like or like anything that justifies it. Everything sounds gross to people. Um, and then, yeah, you ramp up the violence, which they want to do. That's why ICE is doing this. They want people to give them a reason is what they're searching for. They just want a reason.

They openly say it. There's that video, I think, of Greg Bovino and his, like, crew outside of the target, you know, where all the fentanyl is or whatever. And someone, I think a nice agent, like, puts his finger in someone's face and the person swats it away and they say, that's assault, right? Like, they're letting you know we're going to take any. provocation whatsoever. If you're standing in front of a nice detention facility, that's obstructing our work,

and thus we can use extreme violence against you. We can shoot you with pepper balls or rubber bullets or makes you shoot your eye out, as happened to someone in a 21-year-old in Santa Ana this week. Yeah, and that's what that's how the vice president is talking about it. while she was obstructing lawful, lawful measures and whatever he says at any given day, they're framing it like, yeah, she was obstructing their business.

So she deserves to die? Which means that she is a domestic terrorist, which means she deserves to die. Or, well, she's a far lefty who is disrespecting and wasn't complying, whatever, therefore she should be shot in the face. They're just laying out as many justifications for this as possible. All while being like, but you,

but you're mad at Charlie. Kirk, like, it's just completely out of left field, like comparisons that don't have any bearing on what's actually going on. I do appreciate that those guys who are saying, oh, she reminds me of all these teachers who annoyed me. At least they're being honest about what this is really about. Yes. Like, as we talked about the other day, like the liberal women who annoy me is really what this is about instead of anyone obstructing. Like, if you take out what we know Trump and Miller want to do. and you're just looking at like, here's the operation,

like supposedly what the operation is? What is the goal of this? Is going door to door going to be really useful in rooting out people hiding in attics, for example? Targeted operations, Jonathan, okay? They said targeted operations is going door to door. Is there a thing I'm missing that's like, oh, this is the thing they're supposedly doing?

Because it seems like they're being open about we're just trying to provoke the town. I've seen people on the right either, either they're like, yeah, this is a fucking awesome and we love the violence and we love how everybody hates it. Or I have seen a few people be like, they're not doing a good job, actually. Like, if we really want, if we even wanted like the things that we say we want, like, or we want them to go and get rid of like a lot, they're not doing a good job at the thing that they're saying that they're doing. They're not. It is chaotic. It is causing more problems.

for everybody, for even the ice agents. Yes. And I think some, even some people in the writer sort of seeing like, oh, they're fucking it up too. Like, although obviously there are the very vocal ghouls who are like, yeah, this is awesome. Finally, our elementary school teachers can be shot in the face. And then that'll fill the hole. That'll fill the hole that is left by whatever. Obviously, this stuff has been happening.

But it's ramping up in a way that we haven't seen. It's getting more and more aggressive, more and more unhinged. There's no pretending that what's happening, as if you could before, is any way justified. They are creating chaos for the cities, for themselves. They are grabbing anybody. They're grabbing anybody brown. They're shooting obvious. They're just shooting whoever.

They're not looking for anything. They're rounding them up. If they're beating them up, they're dropping them off blocks. away, other places injured. I feel like there should be some lawsuits able, although they've got full immunity. It is a nightmare, and I do think more and more people will realize that none of this is justified. I don't know how they're, if they haven't yet, I don't know what to tell you, but but the sustained nature of it, more people having this happen to more reports of American citizens.

We should watch that clip, Jonathan, that we were talking about earlier of that guy. of the guy yeah because i think it represents something here of a shift of we're we're talking about just this average person who's like i never do this shit i don't fucking protest this is absurd they're pulling up anybody you know this is nuts this is fucking yeah and you're right in the middle of this shit what the fuck is going on dude this is insane have you ever gone out to these sort of things before ever never i've never protested in my life my brother my brother's here He does it all the time. I've never.

I got, dude, like I said, I'm far enough away, but close enough. And I'm sitting in my cushy house and look at shit and get mad. And I, yeah. They're just trying to fucking scare people and, you know, but, but why shoot people? My, no, you know what really pisses me off is the fact that they detain people, cuff them and then still beat the shit out of them. They tell you it's immigrants, only immigrants. It's fucking anybody.

I have friends that got detained and all they were doing was fucking driving home from work. what the fuck sounds like you don't fit the definition of the I'm not fucking paid to be here like everybody fucking says what the fuck is that I gotta work in the goddamn morning just like everybody else I'm just here trying to stand up for community

dude we're all human beings here I don't give a shit who you are where you came from what color you are it doesn't fucking matter this is wrong it is fucking wrong and anybody with any sort of a moral compass can see that and I think that this also speaks to the reality of what people

Minneapolis are experiencing right now in other major cities of how terrifying it is and how much worse it is than even we know. We sit here and talk about it, but this is like a war zone. I want to quickly credit

the journalist Zach Roberts who got that interview. Oh, yeah. This is, I think, and I don't want to always bring it back to the political nature of this because this is real people's lives, but like things break through

and you can tell something broke through with this man. because like most people, he's got to go to work in the morning like everyone else. Like that kind of hits you in a way that listening to an activist kid doesn't. And I appreciate all the activist kids out there doing stuff. Don't get me wrong. But like, this guy is going to speak to people in a way. It's like, yeah.

What the hell? Yeah. There's no prep there. It's not he's not going through like what language I use or like what do I say. just like, no, this is how I feel because I'm here and I see it. And if you were here and you saw it, you would think the same thing. Um, because that is a decent human reaction to fucking secret police going and bagging people up, detaining people, beating them up anyway, all the stuff that's going on. Um, it's what, you know, we talked about it months ago before, even before the election. Like,

they do this thing. Mass deportations now. What does it mean? It means you either build, uh, you build a bunch of fucking concentration camps, people, people aren't going to want to see or you're going to, have to round up thousands of people and beat the shit out of the like do all the things we're seeing now um or both and no no scenario will a decent human being be able to look at and go this is what i voted for uh a jo rogan type uh for example might be like wait what was i fucking stupid for months and months and months and now suddenly they're doing the thing that everybody said they're going to do he might but he won't he didn't he did he does he does pretty regularly um without the other part.

With a clip that was circulating, Jonathan posted it. I don't have to do the whole thing now, but there's a 14-second clip of Joe Rogan that got posted where he's like, we don't really want the Gestapo running around, like, do we? You don't want militarized people in the streets just roaming around, snatching people up, many of which turn out to actually be U.S. citizens that just don't have their papers on them? Are we really going to be that the Gestapo? Where's your papers? Is that what we've come to?

He did say that, but it's part of this like 10 minute segment where he's all over the place and he likes a lot of stuff. And he's like, well, ICE has to wear masks or they'll get docks or whatever. And he repeats great replacement theory stuff in there. And he calls Renee Good like she was out of her mind and she moved there to get involved in this stuff. Like he's so wrong and bad about things. But I could, again, I could do an hour on this shock. You already have. But, no, no, no.

No, no, no, I mean, you wrote our Joe Rogan episode. You already have and did, and so we don't have to. You already did that. Can we watch this clip of Trump talking with CBS News is Tony DeCopal at the Ford factory where someone called him a pedophile protector and he mouthed fuck you and gave them the finger? Yeah, this is, I wanted to share this, I want to watch this especially because this isn't the only example of this. I think we talked about it. maybe last Friday, where Trump was in an interview talking about what happened, uh, Renee getting shot in the face.

Trump was talking about the incident. And he was talking about it in a way that made it very clear he had been told what happened. He was sort of like read the DHS tweet basically. Like, oh, yeah, this like violent terrorist was there. And she like tried to run him over and, and kill the guy. And so he was defending himself. And so he had to shoot her while also filming it and so on, whatever. And in the interview, he talks about that.

And then they show him a video of the incident. And he, like, gets a little tripped up and is basically like, oh, well, that, you know, that doesn't look too good, you know, but, you know, we got to, things happen or whatever. And it's very clear he saw the video. It's like, oh, oh, that is not what I was told happened. It's a different situation. And we see it with Vance talking about it, with everybody talking about it. You can kind of tell that they know how bad it looks and that it shouldn't have happened the way it happened.

And it is their fault and there should be accountability. And this is another example of that happening. And it's really, really interesting to see this piece of shit be asked about this. I've got an important question about the situation in Minnesota, the death of Renee Nicole Good. I've been speaking to her father, who is a big supporter of yours, like many Americans are, but he's heartbroken right now. I can understand it. He's heartbroken because his daughter is dead, that's obvious.

He's also heartbroken because your administration so quickly has come out and said she's a domestic terrorist. What do you want to say to her father right now? Well, I want to say to the father that I love all of our people. They can be on the other side. As you say, he might be on my side. He is on your side. And I think that's great. And I do.

I think it's great. And I would bet you that she, under normal circumstances, who was a very solid, wonderful person. But, you know, her actions were pretty tough. I've seen it many ways and many different shapes and forms. But the bottom line is, look, we have hundreds of thousands of murderers in our countries, killers. ISIS trying to get them out. They were let in through an open border policy of Sleepy Joe Biden.

ICE is working very hard to get them out. Their job is being made very, very very. difficult. And, you know, when you look at that tape, it can be viewed two ways, I guess. But when you look at the way that was, that car was pulled away, there are a couple of versions of that are very, very bad. Yeah, I read that. I didn't watch it. It's interesting. Because there are a couple versions, he was implying, that don't look very bad. A couple versions look different, actually. The version that he saw when he was lied to about what happened and then was shown the video of what actually happened. That version didn't even look very bad. That's the truth. There's no version that I've seen that looks very, very bad. I'm sitting there watching this man and he's being confronted and like, no, no, I think it's great that he supports me, blah, blah, blah. The only way that he changes his tune is when people start getting upset. The only way that he changes his tune is when he sees that it's breaking through to Maga and Maga isn't taking the

bullshit the way that he intended. That's the only time that they start to change their tune slightly. Now I want to go create a, let's all go make fake MAGA Twitter accounts. I'm not going to do that. I can't contribute. I'm not going to do it. I don't actually suggest you to do it, but I'm like. It's interesting when Trump, he's just so obvious.

He in this instance has a harder time lying than Vance or Christy Noam because they aren't saying it was pretty tough. I guess there's more than one way to look at that. I'm sure she was great other days. No, Vance is like, she was a domestic terrorist. She tried to run him over. This is ridiculous. Christy Noam is, you know, like they are holding the line.

They're doing what they're being paid to do. That's so interesting, isn't it? Well, I guess maybe. Do you think because he knows? Do you think it's because he knows? I mean, Maga is fracturing as we've talked about. They're pissed at him. Whatever.

Some people aren't. because he's a pedophile protector. Because he's a pedophile protector. But he also knows, like, it's different to say that, you know, people are upset versus, like, Maga's upset at you. Like, there's something about him. People be angry with him. And I don't know. I don't know if that's what it is, maybe.

Or he's just losing his juice. It's also, I mean, it is what is the true thing, which is that, well, it looks really bad. it looks like he literally says when the car pulled away he's not saying what vance says which is that she tried to ram him and murder him with her car he's saying the way the car pulled away oh so she pulled away actually in his mind there's like well some interpretations you can make and he knows what happened and he knows that they are trying to push people in this other direction. And he's, but he's also Trump. So he says whatever. And sometimes he wears his like dark soul on his sleeve. And Vance, um, has no soul. So he is able to go out there and do the lines and

say the thing and call her a domestic terrorist because he's a piece of shit. Um, but there's something, there's something about Trump that, uh, like does know and, uh, lets that seep through because he's being complimented also. He's being told like, well, her dad's a fan of yours. And so that takes his guard down a little bit more. And I think there is something about like that tension of like, yeah, every day he goes out there and he says, at least half the country are domestic terrorists who I think are evil and should be imprisoned or killed. Who are related to the people who like you. Exactly. And like and he's the optics president.

But he doesn't know that. Yeah. But he knows he can clearly tell it looks bad. He can tell it looks bad to have a masked. arm of the state shoot a woman driving a Honda pilot in the face. There's no, you know, even if he thinks like, well, her actions were pretty tough because he was saying a lot harsher things before he seen these videos. Before he saw it.

Exactly. When just the ghouls were telling him what happened. So he knows. And the thing that he does all the time, which is like, yeah, I'm going to shit on half the country and they're related to the other half the country. But he doesn't see that. like from any perspective other than yeah I go out and I say whatever and I like shit on the people and I'm the present I can do whatever this is one of the few times he's ever been confronted with

that reality that everybody deals with every day yeah I have people in my life who think this and that's like completely antithetical to what I think is as a good human being and like my oh my parents are disowning me all this sort of stuff that everybody's dealing with personally he this is like one of the first times he's ever been sort of directly like confronted with that information like by the way you called this woman a domestic terrorist who you actually secretly know like shouldn't have been shot in the face because you saw the video you called her that her dad's a fan of yours he loves you and he's hurting because you called his daughter a domestic terrorist which you know you shouldn't have done and I'm not saying that's like oh what a what a great human being Trump is or like oh it's really breaking through it's just one of those. His brain can't quite handle it, and it kind of broke in the moment, and he didn't know how to address it. I do hope he thinks about this, though, because if there's Insurrection Act, if he floods more cities with ice and tries to get troops in there, like Miller wants the military to shoot protesters. Yes. Okay.

but if that happens they're not all going to be the people who you the archetype that you think you'll be able to get away with shooting there's go like not that you should shoot those people but he's going to have to explain why they shot people who were there

because they're this guy they're passionate about it or they're Renee Good and they want to help their neighbors or their bystanders he should really think about the optics of dead bodies of citizens of major cities on his hands Hope he thinks about that He's a leg of a guy

Hope he thinks about it Also The other thing The ticking time bomb That's waiting to explode That is exploding I mean You know

They're not going to investigate Jonathan Ross Apparently that's another part of this You know the ICE officer But Well he's already been through so much He's been through so much He's been through so much.

The internal bleeding, the punching that car before. That rogue and I was talking about like, oh, that officer also, you know, been through so much just weeks prior he was seriously injured. He was seriously injured doing something insane, smashing through a window to pull somebody out of the car and then being dragged by the car. What are you out of your goddamn eye? Again, I think we may. Then take him off of his beat. Like, he's too traumatized. Yes.

When I'm trying to get to. I'm trying to pivot to another story slightly by acknowledging they don't got the best of the best here. They are just taking the slops from the barrel. Anybody that applies gets a job, it seems like. And this is just such a fucking disaster waiting to happen. I mean, it's already happening. Who are these people? What training do they have?

Why are they being put on the streets? Why are they being given guns? It's madness. Jonathan set up this story because it's fucking wild man. Yeah, this one's wild. So journalist Laura Jadid, who has bylines in the nation and the New Republic, I believe. Easily Googlable. Yeah, you can Google this person.

On social media, you can see what she thinks about Trump and ICE. She went to a ICE hiring expo in Texas in August. She told the truth that she went into the military outside of high school, that she had never been in law enforcement, that she'd done gig economy work over. over the last decade, she within a few days, gets a tentative offer asking to consent to a background check and driver's license information, but she misses that email and so she's like, eh, whatever, and doesn't do it. And then three weeks later, she gets another email

pretending that she did that stuff or acting as if she had done it. Unbelievable. Make an appointment to do a drug test. And she's like, well, I'm gonna fail this drug test because I smoked weed six days ago, but whatever, let's do this. And then a week later, she logs into USA jobs. She has been offered a job as a deportation officer with ICE. The portal listed her background check as having been done.

She can accept the offer at any time. And so she writes a post on a slate about this experience because she's like, if I could get in and look, they could have Googled me after I showed up for training or whatever and kicked me out. Maybe, but they accepted her. But like the portal is accepting people without the background check being done. So there might be domestic abusers in ICE, believe it or not. In fact, they probably prefer that.

They probably prefer those people to be joining. I mean, it's wild. And even in her interview, like when she went to the expo, which does seem to be pathetic and not a huge turnout, the more than you would want, which is over 100 or something. but still not like an big huge event. But they, she tried to say, you know, I might be better suited for a desk job. And she notes that the person's demeanor changes visibly. And they're like, well, we're looking for officers on the street.

Yeah, guns and badges. No, but this is like a lot. I mean, I guess not, again, not a liability since IAS officers have full immunity or whatever. But who are you getting out there? You don't give a shit. And they're just untrained people with guns trying to manage situations that they have no business managing and targeting brown people on the street. And DHS immediately puts out this thing like this person was not hired. This is just a lazy lie.

This is such a lazy lie. To which Laura Judit immediately quote tweets it with footage or, you know, the screen recording of the portal that says, You've been offered a job as a deportation officer. So, like, the best case scenario for them is they could say this is a glitch. But they didn't say that. They said, this is a lie. She made up this story. But, come on.

Like, the lazy lie thing is so funny, given that they are the laziest liars. Absolutely. But it doesn't matter. It's shameless. It's a world of shamelessness. They can just say this is a lazy lie. And enough people are like, yeah, see? They said so.

When, yeah, you can look at her reply and it says, here's your offer for the fucking job. $30,000 bonus, $50,000 bonus or whatever. She also talks about the cross section of who was there to sign up. It wasn't thousands of people. It was like 150 total over the four hours she was there. And she's like, well, there's law enforcement types. And there's like, you know, guys who seem like they want to craft. heads together and then dorks.

Probably some online Nazi dorks. Oh, yeah. They're just itching to do the thing that they're slowly finding out they can do and get away with. They can get their revenge on a particular female elementary school teacher that made them sit quietly one day when they didn't want to sit quietly one day. What else we got, boys? What do we want to talk about?

Can we talk about Richie Torres real quick? Oh my God. Yeah. So what are we going to do about ICE? There are a wide range of possibilities and options that senators and congresspeople are putting forth. This is so dumb. Obviously lowering funding and trying to decrease funding on the path to abolishment. Abolition.

Yes. Is a part of it. But there are some other outside the box ideas that maybe we could try. No, I want to credit the Progressive Caucus and obviously it's not like legislation is going anywhere, but they're putting forward legislation to remove $175 billion from ICE and put it to affordable housing. And there's another one to take $75 billion and put it towards the health care subsidies, right? The stuff the people want. And then there's Richie Torres's suggestion. where he's introducing the

Quick Recognition Act, QR, which requires ICE and CBP officers to wear uniforms featuring QR codes. When scanned, the code would generate a digital ID displaying the officer's name, badge number, and law enforcement agency. So...

It's so wild. So, yeah, that we can't demask them. I like the last line. Ice should be unmasked both physically and digitally. Oh, yeah. Well, while you're being... I mean, yeah, they shouldn't be wearing masks. While you're being shot in the face with a pepper ball get your phone out and scan that QR

code and smash that subscriber you know that thing we all hate that we all loved I was going to say exactly just like you hate this on menus but maybe maybe during high stress situations the care the care instructions for my new pair of pants

was a fucking QR code and it took so long to get it right and then I had to do it again when it was wet to see the drying And it was so annoying. It's like logging in Netflix. Now imagine that in a high stakes, very tense situation, when an officer's gun is pointed at my face, let me get your QR code.

Yeah, here's the thing when you're trying to log into Paramount Plus on a new TV and it's bugging the shit out of you. Do this with the ice guy who if you pull out your phone at it might shoot you. Make sure you update first so that everything functions properly. They're just going to cover up the QR code. they're just going to cover it up they're going to cover up the thing that wouldn't have helped anyway better than a name tag

speaking of hotel Netflix streaming services I was at a hotel recently and I tried to log into my Netflix and I tried to play a video and they were like sorry this TV doesn't play ads because I have Netflix with ads

because I'm not going to pay for that shit and they're like we can't play this ad you have to upgrade play it here I think it's a scam I think they're trying to scam people into like up up in their their subscription so that they don't do ads. Typically people just leave their Netflix logged in. They shouldn't be doing that. Well, let's call Kevin and ask why that's a thing at hotels.

What's up with that? Yeah, Kevin, now that we have a line into the hotel industry. Seriously. Good luck to everybody who wants to, you know, not fund them and get rid of their immunity and all the things that could. help but I guess I have another thing related to protests slightly there's not much to say specifically but we weren't sure this morning if we were going to wake up to news that we've bombed Iran and and that is an evolving story obviously we don't know what's going to happen It's hard to not think of the irony of our administration willfully shooting protesters in the face, needing to come in and save.

You know, coming in with the justification of human rights as if our president suddenly cares about human rights. And I do not mean to suggest that what's happening in Iran is anything other than fucking horrific, you know. But I do feel it's important to note that we are watching that story as well. And it could become a very big one in the next few hours. There were days or what happened before you see this. Who knows? Let's hope not. Because yesterday on Wednesday, everyone thought, I'm like, oh, my God, are we about to strike Iran now?

And then Trump's like, well, I got it on good authority that the killing has stopped. We've been told that the killing in Iran is stopping. It's stopped. It's stopping. And there's no plan for executions and execution or executions. So I've been told that a good authority. We'll find out about it. I'm sure if happens, we'll be very upset.

Which I guess is his attempt to say, like, my coercion worked. Right. But, again, he just says things that maybe he's not supposed to say. Oh, all the time. That said, you know, we're evacuating. He's the great revealer. That said, we're evacuating non-essential personnel in the region and in Qatar and, you know, Greenland is terrified of what we might do. We're just this belligerent actor where nobody knows what the United States is going to do next, including the president.

So fun, fun times for all. I just didn't want to do the whole show without noting that being developing, the irony of the situation and that we will be talking about it if we need to. For sure. To wrap up the what should Democrats do conversation, I think their calculus is that they don't have the stomach for another shutdown fight. And so if they don't want to shut down the government, they have to put forward an appropriations bill, which will include funding ICE because Republicans are not going to fold on funding ICE. So they're going to have to come up with some kind of concession because people like us will obviously be very upset if they're like, well, we couldn't shut down the government. So we're funding ICE another $100 billion or whatever. And so far, the only Republican. and counter offer I've seen is to give ICE even more money to install body cameras on them. But we don't take that out of the money, the insane amount of money we're already giving them. We'd have to give them more money to put body cameras on them. Because as we all know, if you films a murder from all these different angles, everyone will

agree that it's a murder and the agent will be held accountable. But like, I guess let's add another camera each to this situation. Yeah, I mean, this wouldn't have happened if he didn't have to multitask and have his camera. That's true. Have his camera and his gun. Yeah, when you, there, we wouldn't have that moment where he visibly switch his hands with the phone so that his gun hand is free. So you know he's like in control, right? Yeah.

Because he made the decision to do that. Hmm. I don't think that'll work. I want to close out with a funny thing. the present quote, I guess, to kind of lighten the of it all, if that's okay, about Barry Weiss's journey that is going well. I just wanted to check in because it seems like she's trying to speed run my prediction that she's not going to last too long, or she'll just stay there forever, and she's doing exactly what she's asked to do. But I,

I'm sure people have seen this Whiskey Fridays set that may or may not be a thing that they're planning on doing. They claim that it's actually just a mock up for like a private event, which is weird. What private event has like a big stage and says like Whiskey Fridays with the host. But whatever. I wanted to read this quote though from Miss Weiss. This is her message to the CBS Evening News Team. Let's make sure every single night has something with viral potential. The goal for this road show is not to deliver the news so much as it is to drive the news.

We need to be the news for these 10 days. And that is obviously a disgusting thing for like journalism. And like if you're trying to do the news, that's not what you do. but I think it's so funny and telling and that's what we've seen so far, obviously. All the Erica Kirk stuff, all of this, like, we're going to do a series of live debates on CBS with all these YouTubers doing live debates for you.

And this Whiskey Friday's alleged debacle, it's all just like trying to take the internet and put it on TV, but nobody wants that. we want to watch the internet on the internet. You can't port it over to television and have it work because people tune into, for example, CBS evening news for the news. They want to hear the news read to them and have it be accurate as accurate as possible. They don't want you to drive the news or try to create viral moments. That's what the internet is for.

And the Whiskey Friday thing is just you're doing the daily wire guys talking in front of a fireplace with your fake little glass. of cognac or whatever. She's revolutionizing the place. It's so funny how transparently she is being like, this works on the internet. I'll do Jubilee. I'll do a little bit of this Daily Wire stuff. Oh, Erica Kirk wants to be on TV again.

Let's do that. It's all this just very funny, transparent thing that's not going to work. I don't think because people don't like that. We should do tequila Tuesdays. Ooh, we can do that. We can do that. Tuesdays happen semi-regular.

Every so often. They, Ellison should have given Barry Weiss instead of CBS News, which is a thing that reports the news, should have created like a separate channel to do her shit. If he likes the shit so much, the viral moments and interviews with the widow of the guy. Did you see the AI slop that they've made of Renee Good hugging Charlie Kirk? And they'd like, we would have understood each other bullshit that in rate that that that is for. zero people because no one whether you're a fan of Charlie Kirk or not like fans of Charlie Kirk

would not like that either because they think she's a domestic terrorist. Yeah. Yeah, it's really disgusting and disrespectful to both of them honestly it's so weird AI slop of dead people is so fucking weird and stop doing it. Stop doing it it's really gross and

I saw some like centrist libs be like this is actually one of the more wholesome uses of AI. No, it's not. You can't have wholesome AI slop. I I'm sorry, especially not this, and especially because Charlie Kirk would be out there right now saying this fucking woman deserve to die. She should have been shot in the face. And maybe she would have been saying the same thing about him. I don't know what her posts were.

We haven't looked at the post. We haven't looked at the post. But like he definitely would be out there on his show. Maybe he have the vice president guest on it to talk about how she deserved to be shot in the face by the state. So no, it's not wholesome. I mean, I guess this person is trying to say all this violence is bad, but whatever. I know. But I agree with what you're saying.

Like, I get it. I get it. I agree with what you're saying. But like to use two dead people. Oh, yeah. It's wild. To murdered people who obviously would not have found any kind of understanding. 100%.

I'm agreeing. I'm just acknowledging that the intention is such, which in a way, you, do want people to say, hey, now, let's not shoot each other in the face, okay? We would like that. That would be nice. Yes, this is AI slop and it's disgusting and it's a scourge in our culture and so very tacky and very weird. It's also the kind of thing that within four to five months we're going to see on CBS News.

Like, it's that kind of stuff that like they're just going to start doing more and more slop stuff. They're going to do more and more like viral. Like I would be I would not be surprised if they didn't at some point decide to have this fucking Tony guy do like streaming

like do a fake set like it's like his desk and it's like casual, casual stream with Tony. Yeah. Like they're just trying to do as much internet on TV as possible. Tequila Tuesdays with Tony. Regardless of how you feel about this politically, there are things.

and we can all agree things and peace and their understanding there are things, politics. You're barely paraphrasing. That's my sign off and we can all agree Barry Weiss. No mistaking, this is the thing I've said and let's check the news, which is us

who are driving the news, which is our goal. You're right, Cody, this was a good palate cleanser. Journalism. Thank you. It's like absurd that she like aside from like all the like don't try to do viral stuff That's not how it works but just Oh we learn that

Like we're not trying to deliver the news We're trying to be the news Yeah maybe Do you're trying to do viral stuff Never works unless you're planning to do something very very very purposely rage baby You know the only person that like plans to do viral stuff and it works out a lot of the time is fucking Mr. Beast. That's it.

That's it. Because he's got a bunch of an army of children who will watch whatever he puts out there. I mean, CBS News could have 100 people in a pit fighting over $300,000 or whatever. Six months from that.

Give it time. I'm surprised because HBO renewed real time with Bill Maher again for another several years. So he's there until like 2030 and you know Barry Wise was like,

ah, we offer. Well, maybe I can get Club Random his podcast where he drinks whiskey and smokes stogie. Yeah. It's so random. It's so random.

Oh my God. That guy, that's one thing I always say about Bill Mars and he's just like so random. All right. Okay, we did it, folks. We're at the end of our show. Randomly.

We did it, folks. We're at the end of our show. Glad you're back, Katie. I'm glad I'm back. I love newborn babies. I don't love. of hospitals. I enjoyed San Francisco.

I like my house better. I'm happy to be home. I'm happy to be with you guys. And I'm happy to be sharing space with all of you, our dear listeners, who, I don't think I've told you lately. But we love you very much.

Much. Me this time. Take that, Jonathan. You guys said it? You guys said it. I got to say much.