Some More News - Even More News: San Diego Shooting, Thomas Massie Out, Trump Immune From Tax Audits

Episode Date: May 22, 2026

Hi. Francesca Fiorentini joins Katy, Cody, and Jonathan to talk about the shooting at the San Diego Islamic Center, Thomas Massie's loss in Kentucky, Trump's supposed immunity from ever having his taxes investigated ever again, and Ashley St. Clair's revelations about Elon Musk's electoral dealings.EVERYONE who signs up wins a FREE toy or gift card! https://www.bboutique.co/vibe/somemorenews-podcastPATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comYOUTUBE MEMBERSHIP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/joinSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Visit edc.ca to learn more. On today's episode, we talk about the shooting at the San Diego Islamic Center, the ousting of Thomas Massey in Kentucky, the ongoing controversy around Trump's slush fun, and Ashley St. Clair's revelations about Elon Musk. Hello, welcome back to Even More News, the first and only news podcast. I'm Katie Stoll. Hi, I'm Cody. Johnston. Everybody, you are in for a treat today because this week we have a fan favorite returning guests, stand-up comedian, political commentator, and host of the Bituation Room podcast, it's Francesca Fjornini. Hi, thank you so much for having me back.

Thanks for having us back. Thanks for not throwing me, discarding me like everybody else. Oh, who? Name names. I don't want to talk about it. Say them all. Say them all the names. I don't want to talk about it.

Tag them. We'll tag them. We'll tag them. We're going to get tagged folks. We're coming for them in the comments. Everybody in the comments guess who she's talking about. Don't worry. Jonathan is also here.

Hi. Hi. What a relief. Does everyone hear the motorcycles outside my window? I just want to make sure everyone has that on, and we've recorded it, because I am hoping that the gas prices in L.A. gets so high that these motherfuckers cannot buzz around in their dumbass mopeds. Unfortunately, I think it's the opposite.

I think that has better fuel economy. Yeah, there's going to be more mopeds. They're going to be the last to go. This is like the rise of the moped. Will the rise in diesel prevent the construction going on next door, like the construction vehicles, the ex-execkels, the excavators and what have been going on? I think what it might do is delay the end of the project.

I was going to say it's just going to make it as longer. I think that it might mean that this goes on longer. Mm-hmm. I'm just trying to find silver linings here for $8 gas, $9 gas. Is it that bad in L.A. right now? Because I need to come to L.A. soon, and I'm dreading it. The best part is, like, the headlines are like, gas is about to get expensive in L.A.

And everyone's like about because the final tanker arrived, I think, like, two weeks ago from, I guess we're the lucky ones to rely on gas from the Strait of Hormuz. And the final tanker arrived. And it's just like, that's it. We're just watching the tanker go down, down, down. Make it last. I did go to the cheap gas station today. Like, you know how there's the cheap one. And I guess the gas is worse.

But who knows? It was 570 a gallon. for me today. Yo, I waited in a Costco line for like 20 minutes. Yeah. Forget my Costco gas because, you know, people want to make fun of people with the Costco card, but jokes on you because 520. I saved 50 cents a gallon, which is almost worth driving 20 minutes out of my way,

burning the gas to get to the Costco, waiting in line while burning gas to then fill up. I had to go to Mar Vista, but I got that. $1.50 hot dog and yeah. Okay, so there are places you can get gas under six, but be prepared to wait in line for drive across town. And in general, we're looking at six to seven range right now. It's 6.15 at a lot of the regular places. I saw it 7.50 the other day.

Oh, boy. Anyway, I think before we get into some of the most recent breaking news, we wanted to talk about something that happened earlier this week right after we finished recording, because it feels like with all of the crushing news, this is just passed by everyone's radar, and that is the San Diego Islamic Center shooting. Jonathan, why don't you set up some of the specifics of what happened? A couple of accelerationist neo-Nazi teenagers attempted a mass shooting at the Islamic Center of San Diego, the largest mosque in the city.

They killed three people inside, including a security guard, and then they killed themselves in a car a few minutes later. Reportedly, all three of the victims, their actions likely saved many, many more lives. The security guard is, you know, the kids, these murderers ran in, did his best to stop them. But first, he called ahead and put the whole facility on lockdown because they're really, lot of very young children there. It's all very depressing. Jonathan's going to give some more specifics about the manifesto, but I, that point jumped out at me. I don't know, just the fact that every place with children has lockdown protocols and needs to, and I'm glad that this brave man was able to avert further crisis. It's just, I don't want to be desensitized to how horrific it is

gun violence while I was at school in San Diego and these children. children have lockdown protocols and that's true all over this country. I think one of the big stories here, other than the manifesto, which is the most like expected routine kind of teenage Nazi manifesto you can read at this point. Which itself is like kind of like depressing as well where it's like so it's just like another fucking Nazi stupid idiot manifesto about all the stuff. Soon we're going to have a chat GPT like Nazi manifesto because there's so many of them it can learn on.

Only is AI like actually aiding and abetting mass shooters, as we've now learned from a case, I believe, about like how best or when best to target a certain spot. But that, yeah, we totally are headed down like where it's like, I'm too lazy to write a manifesto. I'm just going to throw this to chat, GBT, by, you know, reading it a bunch of David Duke, you know, speeches and whatnot. This is kind of already moved on in the news cycle, and I have a couple of ideas about why one the victims are Muslim to the body count is not high enough for like us to go on mass

shooting media blitz like we tend to do and the shooters motivations of course are very uncomfortable for the GOP to talk about because the things that they write in their Nazi manifesto are essentially mainstream GOP talking points it's like they just tend to say great replacement theory stuff and put a nice little sheen on it when very. Vance says it, but it's basically the same thing. Less and less these days, they feel more and more comfortable just saying the words at this point. Yeah, I think just to echo the point.

I mean, this is a mass shooter's president. Like this president, this entire regime, he is long inspired mass shootings. From what I know, these shooters were inspired by the Buffalo shooter, right? who murdered black American shopping in a Tops grocery store. I believe that mass shooter was inspired by like the El Paso mass shooter. I mean, it on and on and on. And all of it also did, you know, it goes, you know, everyone sort of worships the Christchurch. Everyone, meaning all the Psycho-Nazis, worship the Christchurch shooter who was talking about,

you know, Donald Trump. And like, you know, a lot of these, I believe I think it was the. Tree of Life Synagogue massacre, that guy was a Trump voter who felt like Trump wasn't moving fast enough. So when we, you know, sort of like flippantly say, you know, Maga has mass shooter energy or that like these boys have like mass shooter energy. No, they literally do. Like that's who they inspire, you know, like I do feel like Stephen Miller is a failed mass shooter. Let's be real. He's just like a mass shooter that made it. He would probably have met that otherwise demise otherwise, because that is who is running our country

and that is who they're inspiring. It's one and the same. And of course, they're not going to fucking talk about it. We were three Christians and of course three Jewish Americans or in a synagogue, we would be having a very different conversation, you know, not five days later.

There's a lot of people carrying water for these, you know, bad faith actors saying the ghoulish shit that I guess we've come to expect, Laura Lumer, don't fall for the hate crime hoax today. this mosque is evil, it needs to be shut down by the feds, terrorists among us, when there is an assassination attempt or an actual assassination, whether or not it is a left wing shooter, they are banging the drum, talking about how the left wing, our rhetoric is causing this, blah, blah, blah, but zero, zero reflection upon something that is so blatantly, obviously a byproduct of their own words and the last. last 10 years longer, but especially the last 10 years with Donald Trump in office. And I'm so fucking tired of it. I'm so fucking tired of calling out the hypocrisy. And you got to keep doing it. And them like pretending to not understand and pretending it's not happening right after this to

say like, no, they're evil there actually. They need, they're terrorists need to be shut down. So you're just, you want it to happen again. You want this thing to happen again. You're the president's mistress and you like are just saying this. sort of stuff. It's just really... Mysteries is a strong word. I mean, look, it was... I think it was a two-star blow job.

It lasted, you know, about three minutes. Got the job done. He's a busy guy. He sent her a birthday letter this week, didn't he? I think... A personalized birthday letter with a sketch? A signed...

Is she a Gemini? With like a poem and a little drawing of a... Let me verify this before. I thought that was... I thought the same thing. Cody, but I think it's a real, it's not a bit. Yeah, May 21st, 2026. Dear Laura, I'm so pleased to join your incredible family and many friends in wishing you a

wonderful birthday, your steadfast loyalty and unwavering support over the years. Mean a great deal to me and I hope to see you soon. Melania joins me and sending our best wishes for your health and happiness over the coming year. Got to have Melania there with the side chick. Yeah, reminder, you know, Melania also is on board with me sending you this message because she knows she's not fucking me. so someone's got to

she with this week is saying that like Islam is not compatible with America and this this mosque was all connected to 9-11 they're all terrorists they all have to go and the president's sending her a birthday card I know we got a lot

of scandals that we'll get to but like that's a scandal what are you doing and and interestingly the only Republican official that I saw have a normal response to this was J.D. Vance because Usha grew up right there and they've been very close

to this mosque and she may know people who still go there. Interesting. It is. Mostly normal. Mostly normal. He says, horrible,

I encourage every American to pray for everybody who was involved and affected by it, which is a weird way to put it. Involved, pray for the families of the shooters. I mean, that's the other thing. 17 and 19 took their own goddamn lives.

Like, can we, finally talk about like actually de-radicalizing white supremacists online, these, the young folks. I mean, this, we have our Christian white ISIS, like that we've had that. We've had that for a long time, you know, under, I think it was under outgoing under Obama. For sure. But Christopher Ray was basically like the former head of the, you know, FBI was like the fastest growing group of extremists in this country are, you know, anti-government white. nationalists, militias, white supremacists, this is the biggest threat. I mean, it has been to this country ever since, you know, Oklahoma City bombing.

And I think the biggest, you know, the standout is obviously like these teens, what the fuck, we're failing them in every single way, not only obviously gun access, because how the hell, right? Like they're 17 and 19, whatever. But then on top of that, the way they were clearly radicalized. And finally, you see these, you know, wishy-washy, um, leaders like Mayor Todd Gloria of San Diego, who's rightfully being called out for having, you know, an incredibly steadfast support of Israel. He, for example, last year was basically like, I'm not going to attend Pride because one of the singers and performers is Kalani, who has spoken out in favor of Palestinian human rights. So no, we're boycotting pride, me and all these other, let's be real, Zionist groups.

And the fact that this mayor, this is the biggest fucking mosque in your fucking city and you cannot and have not said shit about protecting it is a massive failure on you. So he gets called out in his press conference by a woman who's like, you know, we've been asking you for months, Todd, which is just so fun to dress down a man named Todd.

We do it all the time. We're going to do it later in this episode. But I mean, this is the thing we never call people on. Like, it's okay to be an Islamophob. You don't call unless there's a shooting, right? Unless people are actually getting killed. And they're like, oh, I guess we do have other religious minorities in my city. Hmm, yeah, about that.

Like, it is so fucking tragic. I mean, all the lives that were lost. And also just the fact that these two kids wasted their fucking lives. Like, you hate so much that you need to kill them and then kill yourself, your children. that's really tragic. I don't like them what their choices and how they've been radicalized, but they're fucking kids and they just committed suicide. Their brains got completely turned into slush.

What a waste. Completely turned into slush. Absolutely. Groups that are at odds are actually natural allies. Like in the manifesto, it probably talks about Jews, more than it talks about Muslims, you know, it's like it repeats, it's the Jews over and over there,

the ones responsible for all this stuff. Well, they're doing it. Yeah, exactly. And it's like, yeah, these people hate all of us. Like, they're not separating Jews and Muslims and this, like, way that American Jews and American Muslims are being torn apart. And I understand that many American Jews feel very, very different about this issue than I do.

it's a very tough bridge to bring together. But like the Nazis who are now being ignored by our FBI, who are not being investigated at all, they don't care. They don't, you know, it's like the Muslims are the terrorists and the Jews are the puppeteers or whatever. Yeah, the puppeteers doing all the machinations. Yeah, that's always been,

and like that's the final thing is, is, you know, why I can't fully throw down, fuck, if I ever could, but like give, you know, my flowers to Tucker Carlson for talking about, you know, Israel and all this. And like, he never really then pretends to care about Muslims or Palestinians. He doesn't. He, like, interviewed, like, the pastor from Bethlehem in the West Bank, you know, the Christian pastor.

These are the people that grease the wheels. Marjorie Green, fucking Tucker Carlson. This is the same thing. If Laura Luma tomorrow were like, you know what? I have seen the light on Israel. And I do think it's wrong. No, no, no. And she won't and wouldn't.

These are not our allies. These are the people who've been greasing the wheels about anti-Muslim, you know, bigotry for decades. And on top of that, the whole great replacement theory is the idea that Jews are the ones facilitating the entrance of immigrants, include Muslims in the broader immigrant, you know, category. And they're the one to, like, undermine the Republican vote with more Democrats or whatever the fuck, right? Israel loves the white supremacists in this country. They fund them. They support them in office.

They love the insurrectionists And they rely on that fear to say Yeah, Israel is the only place that is safe for Jews We're going to be the greatest allies of Donald Trump And all of his white supremacist's minions Didn't Trump say he could be like king of Israel Like the other day? He would, I could probably run.

Prime minister. And you know what? Please take him. At least he said prime minister instead of king. Yeah, no, it's a good... I assumed he would say king. He's going to be so upset when he realized there's like a parliamentarian system.

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Let's talk about some election stuff, specifically Thomas Massey losing his primary. Jonathan, set us up with the facts before I go into conspiracy land. Oh, sure. Thomas Massey, who if you don't know, is like a Republican congressman from Kentucky, but also kind of like libertarian streak guy. He's also like a raw milk guy. Not a believer in climate change. There's some clip before this era, there's a bunch of clips of him being like, what are you talking about? It's sunny out or whatever.

Like, it's just, he's so silly. Lots of Republican stuff. Don't get me wrong. But he is, he doesn't think we should go to war like Rand Paul, the way, kind of like that, and partnered with Rokana to get the Epstein files released. That's him. He's been a breadth of fresh air in this ecosystem. For one or two things.

For what it's worse. It's not saying that much, but he has been strongly speaking out against the president. So at least there's that. In that, yeah. So because of that, Trump is like, I don't like this guy anymore called him the worst congressman ever. Which is like, you ranking them all? That's a lot. Because some of them owned people.

I'd put Dennis Hasterd up there. Oh, the child rapist. Republican Speaker of the House who's a child molester. I think he's probably a little worse than Thomas Massey. Well, anyway, Massey, pretty bad. So a lot of money went into this race, a lot of A-PAC money. Trump really wanted this guy to lose. And so his challenger, Ed Galrain, a dairy farmer and former Navy SEAL that nobody knows anything about.

So to set Katie up, there were a lot of votes in this race. There were about double the votes in this primary as were in the same primary two years ago. Double sounds like a lot. Doubles a lot. And like no one's ever heard of this guy and there was no one really at his victory. party, but they all voted against him. And little old me is always like, well, there's a lot of money in there and Trump came out heavily against him. But you got to admit it's a little weird, Katie, go ahead. It's more than a little weird. It's very weird. It's very weird. I went on a rant before we

started recording today. I'm so fucking tired of things seeming weird and me watching my words on here because I don't want to spread conspiracy theories. And I don't have a specific theory. but there's a lot of weird shit that keeps fucking happening and this race is fascinating because if you look into the demographics

every demographic age range went for Massey overwhelmingly except for 63 plus and now all of these people coming out of the woodwork for a very unpopular president

a very very unpopular president and I know that there are his stalwart staunch supporters and it's very hard to pick them off you know the laura lumer isn't going to change her mind about him but where were they before you know like so so they're coming out of the woodwork for this unknown um animated corpse and and massey is been popular in his state i don't know but they vote they vote they do vote and again i am not going so far as to say i have a specific theory but it is fucking weird and we also know there's so much money being spent in this race from foreign influence trying to affect our even that is fucking wild but i i just

i have to say it i have to say that this doesn't it doesn't quite add up to me and it doesn't quite make sense and this keeps happening except oh except that it's not also other elections all over the country there's like a resounding rejection of donald trump in his party and everybody that um uh is in line with him. Although this is, this is a primary. So it's not, you know,

it's not like a lot of the people who are like, this guy's horrible. It's a good point. Also, so much money, the most expensive primary in history. Does that amount of money convert to doubling the turnout

or affecting the results of the race? Right. Is it like, oh, all this money was put into this race for this one candidate and so they got more votes or all this money was put in for this candidate. and therefore like double the people voted. But so I don't know.

And I do understand this sort of like, it's a little weird. And as I was saying beforehand, we have in power right now a party that is the party of projection. They accuse everybody in the world of doing everything they do, whether it's, oh, you've paid protesters, paid influence. Well, no, you do that. Oh, they're like ringing the election. They always do the thing that they accuse their opponents of, and they're also incompetent and pretty stupid, and now they are in power. And so we've already seen, like, you know, the fraud, everything. They clearly think that they have this boogeyman in their brain of their opponents and the Democratic Party, and here's what they do.

Here's what they do behind the scenes, and we got to stop them from doing that so that we can do it. So there's a world that makes sense to me where they're just now that they're finally in power and it's kind of they're like well this is it, it's now or never they're doing all the things or attempting to do all the things that they have been accusing

everybody else of doing. So to your point Katie, I understand the sort of seeing these sort of things like oh that's weird, that's weird for a party that obviously is doing so many corrupt things and so many crimes and so many elements that, you know.

Yeah, it is a big part of it. It's a primary, right? So, like, the other thing to know is that I think low information voters and including Republicans, you know, and especially young people, they're not necessarily going to come out. So when you drop $32 million through APAC and various Israel adjacent groups because Massey has the audacity to speak out against, you know, our foreign policy on Israel, that's insane money. place like fucking Kentucky to overcome in a fucking primary where a lot of people aren't even

coming out to vote anyway. To not defeat a Democrat just to defeat one Republican member of Congress. Another Republican. And it shows how shook, I think, A PAC and pro-Israel groups are that they cannot stand for one Republican with the gall to call them on their shit and to work with, you know, a Democrat on it. Put aside the, I feel like the Epstein. stuff very much, you know, triggers a spidey sense around conspiracy. But, you know, there's a few things to take away. Number one, obviously, it's tons of money. So we can't discredit that. You know, you saw, you know, Jamal Bowman and Corey Bush be out. Exactly. Also by, I think, in the Democratic primary by APEC and, you know, adjacent lobbying groups. It's not as reflective of the voting

base as I wanted to be. For me, I think, because for me, I'm like, see, you, you're Republicans love Israel. They love where we're going. Like stop trying to parse out, you know, which Republicans are actually turning on the president on this because you hear a lot of people are like, Republicans are turning on him. But the reality is, they fucking love him.

They love this policy, but especially older voters who are reliably going to vote in the primary. And I think the generational gap is both interesting and terrifying because you've got groipers and white nationalists like Nick Fuentes, who the, you know, Republican Party, by their own admission says is about 40% of like young Republicans right now. Nick Fuentes is deeply, you know, America first, which is, you know, isolationist Naziism

against supporting or sending any money to Israel, but not for the reasons like I believe in Palestinian human rights. It's I hate all Jews and I think Jews run everything and da-da-da-da. And it's like that is a, I think I see some centrist and some others even dabble into the language of like, free us from Israel. Fuck that, man. The United States calls the shots. Don't ever think that the U.S. needs to be freed from fucking anything.

Trump loves it. Chuck Schumer loves it. We love the military industrial complex loves it. We love our support of this genocidal ethno state known as Israel. So it's us calling the shots. And so I think there's also this generational divide that on someone who wants to see less money going to that country. I'm like, yay.

But as someone who doesn't want to see the rise of neo-Nazism in this country, I'm like, boo, this is all very scary. Francesca, it's so complicated to unpack, but you're right. That is exactly it. It's like, I do agree with you to a degree in, like, I don't want my money to be going there. But also, I am not like you in any way, shape, or form. Nick Fuentes, I saw a clip of him saying, like, I'm a moderate Democrat. Fuck all the way off. No, you are not.

Well, he's just a lying little. twirp who wants to rile people up by saying stuff like that. But look, you know, say what you about Massey, but like at least he went down swinging. You know, Marjorie Green fucking cut and run before she could even, you know, actually That's an interesting choice. Yeah, it's like good for you, Massey.

You actually did some shit. Like stop with the like, we have to support Marjorie Green or wow, isn't she good on one issue? Shut up. Like she didn't do shit, right? She really didn't, hasn't gotten anything across the finish line. And Massey, to his credit, did quite a lot.

before he was then iced out with $32 million. Marjorie Taylor Creen left. That's what I mean. What a wild Twitter. She's fighting for, no, she's not. She's podcasting now. She's like, she's just hanging out. She's going on.

I'm expecting her to clear that she's running for something. Wait, no, no, no. I heard she moved to Costa Rica. What? I'm not even joking. I think she moved to Costa Rica. What the heck are you talking about? Well, I guess I,

might have to, at the beginning of this year, or at the last year, we made predictions for this year, and one of mine was that she's, she's running, but maybe not. Apparently, it's, it's, it's, it's, unconfirmed, a little bit of snopes. Selling her home, taking some trips, seems like, okay. You know, Trump, he doesn't care that he's like playing a dangerous game politically, because the, his entire project has to be about, like, loyalties. trying to like insulate himself and keep himself as powerful as he can. But he's kind of torching, again, maybe he doesn't care, but he's torching his Senate majority for now because now Cassidy lost and has no reason to try and curry Trump's favor anymore. Corny didn't get the endorsement.

So maybe he'll try to play both sides until the primary. But then whether he wins or loses, it feels like he can either try to distance himself from Trump to win. Or, oh, I lost and it's Ken Paxton, I can do whatever I want. There's like, his majority in the Senate is not really that strong to get anything across the finish line. And we're seeing it now where they're kind of stepping away from this slush fund. They're not going to put through the reconciliation package that they were going to to do the ICE funding and all that stuff because they're trying to get this, like, ridiculous deal involved where Trump can settle a lawsuit against the IRS by doing something. thing completely different. Like when you settle a case, isn't it usually that like you get money from it?

But he's like, well, that's bad optics. So you know it's better optics? Creating a big pile of money to give to the seditionists, he thinks will be better. It's a very, very, very, very weird settlement. Also, the don't investigate us ever again. That's where we obviously talked about this on Monday, but that was the development after we stopped recording this idea, this forever protection for him and his family. nothing says innocent more than a blanket pardon for your entire family preemptively.

What? He's doing just like no backsees. But like what about pre-crime? But that's exactly what this additionist said. They were. So the best part about the Trump pardon of the 1500 insurrectionists is that some of them went on to, many of them, in fact, went on to do more crime, six of them child sex crime. and in court arguing against the other crimes they had committed brought up the pardon for January 6 because they thought it worked like a Super Mario Star where you could just like be invincible and then do a bunch of crime.

I mean, I wonder where they get that idea from. Jiji. Todd, I hinted at second Todd. Todd Blanche, the acting attorney general, former defense attorney for Trump, was asked. Second Todd. in front of the Senate this week about Andrew Paul Johnson, who is a January 6er, got pardoned, sexually abused two middle school age children, and then tried to buy their silence by saying, hey, I'm going to get some money at some point for what happened to me,

and I'll give you some of that money. Which is on its face, like, it's awful and really terrifying, but on its face, just kind of very funny for, like, someone you just molested to be like, hey, do you want some money? Like, I don't want anything to do with you. I get away from life. I'm going to come into a lot of money. Don't worry. The president's got my back.

He'll write the president will write you a check. I always feel like child molester. People are always upset that they're not like, you know, touched by richer people. Yeah, that is the main problem. It's always the number one compensation is that, you know, like, are you going to be able to pay for it? Yeah.

God. He's dark. He's dark. Can't afford this, can you? And Todd's response to this was Senator Van Hollen. you're obviously lying because the slush fund wasn't created yet when he tried to bribe the people he'd molested. And they said, okay, and Van Hollen got upset at this and was like, okay, he clearly thought

he was due something, that he was promised. They think they're getting millions of dollars each, and it's $1.8 billion, so there's plenty to go around. That's a lot of millions. Yeah, like Jay Johnson's going to get way better than Mr. Show residuals, right, if this thing goes out. If I was the biggest pedophile in the country who was covering up for all of my sex crimes and of course crimes against, you know, the Constitution and the people, the American people,

and I had sold myself as someone who was going to stop pedophilia, but then I actually was the greatest pedophile and all of these people tried to overturn an election because they believe that I was going to stop the pedophilia, but I was the pedophile, I would want to buy them off as well. Like, it would be my first point of business is to be like, okay, so here's what we do. We need to get them whatever the fuck they want because as soon as they turn on me, these psychos have proven they will be violent and I will be the first person in their cross-hares. And you want them on your side still. I don't know. I don't know what happens next, but those are your loyal army. If you're eventually going to want to hang J.D. Vance, then you're going to need

those people to help you out, right? Well, he's acknowledged that the optics were bad. about like, well, I'm suing myself. That would look bad if I take all this money. So he recognized the optics are bad and then decided I'm going to give all the money to the January 6 people who are still unpopular. They haven't pulled this specific thing yet, but unpopular, I would say.

But maybe he thinks personal army of millionaires. Maybe he's thinking that will help him. And just like introducing the idea, like, two people, like, by the way, if you do crimes for me, if you do try to do violent crimes for me, I'll pardon you and I'll give you cash. Like it's just broadcasting to people who aren't even involved in this yet,

that they're safe. I mean, that's sort of why, I mean, I think that the word that Senator Chris Van Hollen used was telegraphed was so brilliantly applied because that's what Trump does, telegraphing to his audience and his base, whatever it might be.

It's okay to kill people of color if you don't like them. I'm not saying, I'm not putting on the white hood, I'm just telegraphing it. It's okay if you are violently, you know, trying to overturn an election. I didn't say go do it, but I'm telegraphing all of it. And he's been doing that ever since he fucking came down that escalator. And so, again, of course, it is never the words coming out of his mouth. It's just sort of the like weird fucking white nationalist Jedi mind games that he's like, you know, like, it's not even what he does.

It's just like, it's all implied. That's how he's learned to talk for his whole career too, right? Like he's like a mob guy who like is a casino developer. He talks in that way already. And so now he's just sort of transferred the Nazism to that instead of just like general crimes. I mean, it is, it is scary. Like the Republican Party, I think, is making this big swing that the more loyalty that they demand, the better it's going to be for them. Obviously, they're acting like the midterms aren't going to happen.

They're gerrymandering like the midterms aren't going to happen. The biggest problem Trump has is that he's always positive himself as anti-establishment, as outside the system. He is so very much the system. He is so very much the swamp. Everyone can see that. If you're in the castle, you get the jewels. If you're not, you can fucking eat shit and die. So I think there is, he's running out a runway with this outsider,

Yeah, he had to sue himself to get $10 billion from us. Like it's, yeah. It's also a way of saying he's gotten everything he wanted and there's not much more to get. So whichever way you want. You're right. It all comes back down to people. A lot of people voted for him because they thought he was outside of the system. And I keep focusing on my hope for this period of time is more people waking up to the reality of what

system actually is that this is beyond just our government which is so ineffective it's about the billionaire class that rules everything and how little power we actually have that is what needs to happen from this moment in time in my opinion uh i would no and to to that point though i was going to say picking up on like the discussion about senators it leaves this lane open for someone like a grand platinum in main who can be like okay so you've got between a fucking total maga loyalist who's never said boo to this power or this president, and me who's like speaking to your everyday needs of just being a normal-ass human being trying to survive

who isn't a billionaire. Which one are you going to pick? So I think that, you know, I think to Jonathan's point, like, you know, you assume, okay, well, the Republican Party just needs loyalty and, you know, people are going to vote red, no matter what. But I don't know if someone comes in

in a more independent streak, who is speaking to the needs of the people. I mean, we all know. Like, I interviewed voters in swing states in fucking 2015, 2016. It was like, we love Trump. And I was like, okay, if you couldn't vote for Trump, who would you vote for? We love Bernie. Bernie.

It's always that. Make it make sense. I talk to so many people that Bernie was their first choice. Bernie was their choice in 2016. And they were so fucking mad at the Democrats for what happened that they went for Trump. They didn't like, they'd fucking consider Democrats in. and Republicans the same. And I have some issue with that. I can point to some sizable differences. But at the end of the day, in terms of people's, you know, what's happening on my day to day life,

I understand. But that was it. They were, you know, literally the sentence of Donald Trump is outside the system. And I don't know, that's the best shot we have. And then there's something that's happened in this, this whatever the fuck has happened. There's a million things that have happened over the last 10 years and people get so ingrained in and they really, really put everything on the line to vote for Donald Trump and it's hard to peel them away, but I see it happening. Anyway, I get worked up about this. Like you mentioned, now we got fucking Ken Paxton, Texas against Tala Rico. Like, that's a perfect open door. God, Ken Paxson is such an unmitigated douchebag. Like, he is so easy to run against. Like, I hope Tala Rico goes fucking negative as fuck because

Ken Paxton, man who tracked the periods of undocumented girls on the border? Okay. Who was like, what is? He's like openly corrupt. He had like multiple- So many scandals. I hadn't really dug into Paxton's crimes until I was putting together research for this yesterday. And he's just like openly corrupt whistleblowers from his own staff are like, oh yeah, this guy took bribes.

He abused his office to help a Texas real estate development. The guy like redid, renovated his house for free so that, you know, he could, you know, get out of some stuff or whatever. I need to know that whole story. But okay, I'm going to let it go for now. There was. Okay. What happened is that he then demanded taxpayer funds to reimburse him for legal fees for the previous thing. And then that triggered his impeachment.

And it's remarkably similar to what Trump is doing now. He's like, I need you to reimburse me or give me money. for my crimes that I so anyway it'll be 50.5 to 49.5 razor thin margin of course of course it will probably be like pretty swampy blexas is going to happen and then uh you know I'm confident I'm confident this is the this is the year this is the year it's happening should we not talk about Ashley St. Clair and Elon slash elections we so should I was on a panel with her oh I was on a panel with her, and the eve of the election, a peers Morgan panel in person of all things in New York, and it was so upsetting. And Ashley was just like next to me kind of like, that da-da-ba-ba-ba-ba-

like she didn't make a point. She just sort of interjected. You know those people who like don't actually have a point to make? They just sort of like, yeah, you would. Like a wing woman, but like without a actual wing, like a person they're winning. And like on peers, which is like that's the arena for it. like he loves that stuff he's just like oh yeah just like yeah it's like talk and you don't need to do that peers will just let you sit in silence for several minutes he'll let be dead air you want to flip through your bible for multiple minutes you can do that oh i have to i wish i we need to dissect that in another moment because i don't think peers was actually doing it on purpose but um i afterwards there was like a little baby outside it was like a one and a half year old kind of like clambering

around with her mom out there and i was like it was like the one was like the one nice thing I said to her. It was like, oh, he's so cute. You know, and I was like, later, later, I realize that's Elon's baby. That's, you know, pie to infinity or whatever the fuck it's called. That's stuck on you now. That's stuck on. You complimented his baby.

I call, oh. But I think it was because she had another one. I wasn't, she's had a few very close. The timing's unclear. She's an interesting case because she's, these days she is no longer a right-wing influencer. She's like, I left that and I'm exposing everything about that world. And she does these long TikToks while she's doing makeup is like the bit.

I don't think that's just her. I think a lot of people do that. Guilty. TikToks, yeah. Maybe it would improve my style here on the show. Yes, get ready with me. Digress. So she's been doing a lot of these like tell-alls.

Like, oh, yeah, they have these like text threads where they send out the talking points for what the right-wing influencers need to say every day. It's like very well coordinated. This is why we need a ballroom. This is why we need a ballroom. This is why. Sorry.

Yeah, it's like both sophisticated in its coordination and not sophisticated in its messaging because it's just like yell. Yell a lot. Obviously in its execution. We all knew it. Nice to have confirmation. But it's very clear what's going on.

This was really interesting to me because, you know, I'm sort of in the like influencer sphere on the left and on the progressive left, which makes me want to gag and throw up in my mouth a little bit. And there's money going around on this side as well. I don't take it because I'm a journalist slash broke. But no, I've always been coming out my work from a journalistic lens and I don't think it's ethical to take money from, especially a candidate or a person. If it's a cause or like a thing, like a campaign, I'm like that I have done, like very little of. But so I was like, of course it

happens on the right and beyond just like, you know, Israel funding money, funneling money to one person or like Russia or like foreign stuff, you know, like, yeah, what happens on the day to day? And it seems like Ashley's talking about how people get like anywhere between $100 to multiple thousands of dollars to like tweet a thing or say a thing. And here's my one piece. And granted, I have not watched her whole interview with Medi Hassan, which I'm sure he asks this question. but like the reason she's speaking out is because Elon fucking cut off the money train. Elon was basically like, yeah, cut her off, don't give her any more opportunities, you know, she shall be shunned.

And so her light flying was cut off. Obviously, Elon's not giving her any child support. She can't get in with the right wing gravy train. And so when the spigots turn off, hey, guess what? Maybe you're kind of a decent person. Yeah, I reject all the things I said. all the things that I recognized was going on and everything that I participated in.

Surely I was like, I was wanted to know like, did you know, like, you knew at the time. Or you have to kind of admit like what you're saying. It was like, yeah, the money dried up and I came to the light. This is not something you would have done of your own volition had your relationship with this man not soured. Of course. That feels.

And it's wrong. You know what? I think the most sympathetic angle for. Ashley is, is the feminist angle. I think the angle of if you fall out of good graces with your powerful maga baby daddy, he will make your life a living hell. And isn't that a double standard for a party and a movement that wants to like allegedly support mothers and blah, blah, blah, that to me is actually kind of an interesting angle. But yeah, the, like, she's talking about this shit because, again, she doesn't get any of these opportunities. And I love how she's like, is there,

And so Zateo, can I get like a check? Is there money for this? Is there money on this side? Right, right, right, right. There's no money on this side. Yeah, no. Very money on the side. It's very little.

These things are the same. It's also, there's that, I mean, that disconnect. I mean, I guess it's just all, Elon is a great lens for that because I, when they went to China, he brought his, the, the, the, his son is named after his website. Or his website after this kid, yeah.

The ex-A-E. The ex-K-E. The ex-kid. Yeah, ex-kid. And I saw this like, man, he is living. He is living his values. Pro-family, pro-children. He's just like, I can't believe he's taking this kid around.

It's like, first of all, what are you talking about? Second of all, what he did to Ashley. Third of all, when he bought Twitter, he slashed maternity leave by like 12 weeks or something like that and reduced it to like, I think two weeks. I don't think he actually does. I know, exactly. I don't think he actually does care about this. problem with the female body, you know.

It takes so long to recover. Oh, boy, oh boy. He loves an Elon impression. Essentially, like, once you get pregnant, it's best to just retire from your career and go into essentially motherhood mode. It's actually seemed to be much better for motherhood mode for a long-trip baby to your robot.

Will your humanoid robots fix this? Are they going to be able to have birth? Will their gestational period be a lot shorter? I mean, I've already attempted to impregnate several of my robots. And I would be shocked if in six months from now I have not impregnated a morpious robot. Just like Johnny Galactica on Battlestar Galactica, right?

I would love to play with the Elon, but I have to keep the show on track. So the reason we brought up Ashley, just to bring it back to her latest supposed revelations in this long TikTok video, was like she's getting a lot of questions. Like, hey, did Elon, you know, steal the election? We heard Trump say all that stuff.

Oh, he knows those computers. We also heard his son during an interview go, they'll never know and just sort of repeat the phrase. They'll never know as Elon was talking about the election. Wait, what? Yeah. Right after the election. Did you miss this?

His son was repeating what he had heard is what was going on. We're parents of three-year-olds, like when they know something, they cannot keep a seat. No, they will fucking talk. When they hear something over and over and over again, and then they repeat it afterwards. They do make. Is this a safe space for the 2024 election was stolen?

Well, wait. Yeah. But let's see that what is, what is, what else did Ashley? Jonathan, you can't leave if you want. Is this a Starlink vote flipping safe space? You guys can say whatever you want and I'll just be like over there. We might make Jonathan uncomfortable, but I think I've already established that I'm fucking sick of this shit.

and things are weird and I don't have to make a conclusion to point out the weird things. I'm trying to responsibly and fairly place myself firmly in the middle between Jonathan's, don't talk about it, and Katie's like, what the hell's going on? I agree with both of you completely.

I'm the loose cannon wild card. I will report what Ashley said and you can decide. That seems to be me report, you decide seems to be the way to go with this. So Ashley says in October 2024, Elon told her he was ready to release his quote anomaly in the Matrix. Loser! Loser! Sorry, I hate the way he talks.

Right. You also have to translate all of this through what would Elon say to seem cool to a woman. That's, so like, right. Let him finish. Let me finish. Just like all the implications of this like comes back to like, well, he definitely said that. Like regardless of what you believe, whatever, he definitely said that. 100%. Also, it's glitch in the matrix is the quote. I know. Right? I know. It doesn't matter. So he says, I'm ready to release my anomaly in the Matrix. She says, what?

And he goes, you know, I have 10,000 lasers in space, ostensibly his Starlink satellites. What does that mean? And he goes, this is not a piece they'll see on the chessboard. And she says, you know what? I don't want to. She makes a Jewish space lasers joke. And then she says, you know what? I don't want to know more in case I get deposed.

And he goes, very wise. I hate the way tire I mean he's such a douche back She's in a video She's in a TikTok video Saying here's what Elon said to me And but this is like this week She said this

Dude she better get some fucking protection That's all I have to say She also says like I'm not suicidal I'm not you know She like does that whole bit In the video So then she says that sometime later He sent her like close to the election

Sent her what she says Are real time Delta vote metrics from his America pack and that she was shocked at how like detailed this data was and she says this is not something you'd get from door knocking which I've done this is like very granular data which is what the America pack claimed to be doing right and it's unclear what that means like satellites seeing people coming and like clear like to what extent okay let's just be real I've door knocked it is actually pretty granular like you know you know who lives there how many people live in that house

and whether they have a history of voting and what party they have historically voted for. You get a fair amount, like the tools are pretty robust when you doork these days, and it's great. It's a great tool. So whatever the fuck he developed, I think is way beyond that. Yeah, it has to be.

And so in what direction? What more would you need? What they ate for breakfast? No, you don't care. And what would you do with that? Like, he might be so full of shit that it's like, we've got all the granular. you're done. It's like, well, okay, that there's 78 or whatever.

You know, without seeing that, that's hard to really know. And what his intention was what he's, like, using it for, what he's actually saying, because he is also, as we've discussed many times, he's pretty stupid and annoying. And the way he talks is kind of stupid and annoying. When he says anomaly in the matrix, he means glitch in the matrix. So, like, he's not, you know, he's not using his words super clearly or responsibly. That's a very nerdy thing to, like, correct him on, Cody. I just want to throw that out there.

That's what it is. For somebody who, like, he's always talking about Dave Matrix from the Matrix, and I'm just trying to correct him on his movie knowledge. I took a pill, one of the pills. I put one of the pills. Very pill. It's very pill. A pill today. But another thing, he says, it's not a piece they'll see on the chess board.

And if it's just having data about voters and having, like, that information, that's not like a piece on the chess board. That's not how chess works, which we've also discussed in the past. He doesn't really know how a chess works. but but uh but uh like a piece on the chess board implies that you're like making moves and actually like influencing something right not like i'm observing that's not a piece a piece on the chess board is active of chess viewer is like a is a different thing with this analogies too much i think it's that's that's ultimate point is he just talks and says this sort of stuff and we can't really maybe maybe it was a piece on a chess board

board and he really wanted her to ask the right questions, but is happy enough to, I don't know, they were openly offering people, what was it? It was a million dollars. A million fucking dollars? They did a million dollar. Yeah, that's like the secret. I bribed people to vote for Trump. But also, they didn't do a lottery because apparently they picked the people beforehand.

So it was all a fraud and got away with it. No update on that. And then the final thing that she reveals in this video is, is that they're at Mara Lago on election night. And they didn't really announce that Trump won until 2, 3 a.m., something like that. And then Elon's like heading out early. And she's like, oh, it seems like he won. And he says to her something like, oh, yeah, I knew he won hours ago.

My people have the best data. Which is so hard to interpret as anything other than he's a tool. Like he's just trying to seem cool. He wants to seem impressive and he wants to seem cool. The same story was told by, I think, Rogan, or was it Dana White? So one of, like, somebody was talking about the night of the election. Yeah, he had his little app and he brought out like a special app that only he had. And he's like, oh, yeah, we won.

And like this, that piece isn't. It, whatever it is, it warrants more investigation. Like, for real, though. Some scrutiny is necessary. And weird. I don't know what it is. Even him having access, if his fucking satellites or whatever, are picking up information about our vote tallying.

That's so beyond fucked. Yeah. And now, thanks to Doge and all of the data collection and mining that happened in the first, whatever six months of last year, you know, all bets are off. He's got it all. Yeah. He's got it all. And so I think we're right to be skeptical.

It sucks that like, I mean, Katie, to your point, like, I feel you, dude. It's like, why the fuck do we have to have scruples over here and be like, well? I don't know when everything about this administration is like the definition of playing in our faces, the definition of acting like there will never be consequences. And the corruption is here. And then so what do you think we aren't seeing? What do you think that is? It's fucking more corruption.

Like it's more and worse corruption. So it's like, but because we're, you know, we're trying to do news. We're trying to be honest. There's people who listen to us. I get it. But like, it warrants a lot of. investigation and scrutiny. And so when the midterms come down, no matter how they come down. And I am someone who actually doesn't think they're going to be great for Democrats precisely because of

this fuck shit that is happening not only in the gerrymandering in the South, but sort of behind the scenes. Who knows, right? Yep. It's like we cannot keep moving on. And yes, everyone in the comments, people in my comments too, it's like, what do you think about the Elon? It's like, I don't know how to think about that. It's like how I don't know how to think about whether, you know, Dick Cheney did 9-11. It's like, what would I do with that information? How do I I proceed. How do I live my life knowing that information? Like me and Alex Jones and that's it, you know? It is just a difficult position because, yeah, you want to be responsible, but like they're the most, it's the like the most corrupt administration in history. He's the most corrupt president

in history. It's so out in the open. Every tip of every iceberg is so obviously corrupt and involves crimes that what is underneath is a valid question, especially when, yeah, they project so much about like what their enemies are doing but you are doing all of it. But you do it. Everything that you claim other people are doing, you do. You're importing white South Africans

right now. You're literally doing great replacement theory. Reverest. And whether or not how deep shit goes, whether or not Elon's satellites

manipulated voting machines or affected this A-PAC bot Well, they did. Thomas Massey's election. All of this shit, it's like, we're watching her words and trying to be responsible, but meanwhile it keeps happening, it keeps happening, it keeps happening,

and at what point do we do a January 6th? Thank you, Cody. See, this is where my mind was going. Well, then I can apply to the slush fund. But as long as you do it on a January 6th. It's January 6th somewhere. Wear a red hat, you're good. I think if the midterms happen,

because are they going to happen, Jonathan? No, no, no. Okay. The midterm is going to happen. They're going to try some shenanigans, certainly. Some voter intimidation. They're going to try to confuse people.

They'll send out mailers. Go to the polls on December 1st or whatever. You know, they're going to try all their things. And then if there's some extra level to that, something we can't see, some satellite Elon thing, they won't be able to, like, We will see some areas where the wave happens, right, where Democrats overperform by like 20 points as they are in some of these districts.

And then there will be somewhere, oddly, that didn't happen with no explanation whatsoever. If that happens, then I will be, like, pretty into this discussion. Yeah. Yes. We're going to get you. You're a data guy. And like that. I would be disappointed if it turns out to only be a D plus three election instead of a D plus 10 or whatever some of the polls are said.

Like, that would be another polling miss by everyone and a huge disappointment, but it would be tougher for me to get on board. But if some districts are like biggest blue wave since whatever and others are just like, huh, these Republicans won just enough for them to keep the house, I'll be like, all right, guys, I'm in. Yes, yes. Not that I want that to happen, but. No, I hope it does not. And I continue to believe that Musk is an incompetent boob. It's a valid position to have. I guess with this whole polling thing, I do think it is, you know, I stopped believing in polling after 2016.

So I'm, you know, and I've just one more reason for someone who's not good at numbers to not pay attention to them, which I'm like, cool, great. I've been looking for, you know, more of those excuses. But, you know, what point do when polls show one thing and the turnout shows the other? Like, are we like, one of these things is wrong, right? Right. One of either polling doesn't matter, which I don't believe I do think, I mean, sincerely I do think polling does matter and it does reflect voters versus, you know, the fucking reality. I mean, and I don't know. Maybe the people who are also in the cult like don't want to project or talk about how they're still in the cult.

Who knows? It's possible. That's possible depending on who's polling in the person. But at this point, 10 years deep. and it's become so many people's identity. It's like why, if you're for him, why are you hiding? There's plenty of, I don't know about plenty of people, but you get rewarded for it by this president.

You can do a crime and he'll pardon you because you love him so much. Something's going to happen. I had a wonderful astrologer, Channing Nicholas, on my show recently, and she's seeing something going down in August when it comes to Mr. Trump, leaders well that's both Cody and mine's birthday so something's going down

in August yeah we have the same birthday essentially are you guys twins well a psychic once told me that we are and that's not a joke but um

really yeah we were born within like 12 hours of each other oh oh damn oh you were born in true so you yeah you are twins when that face swap app was real popular

did it and it was basically a picture of color. I mean, remember, Cody? Yeah, no, I remember. It literally, like, I went, this is disgusting. Get this out of here. You guys are also different in critical ways. Oh, yeah, many, many, many ways.

We're different in critical ways, but we are very similar. Well, anyway, Trump's going to die in August, so, okay. Hell yeah. Hussein birthday to us. Birthday present. That feels like a good place to wrap this up. Francesca. Thank you so much.

It's so fun having you here. You just, we just need to have a standing booking with you, I think. Dude, any time, every time I'm like, oh, wait a minute, we're like all on the same level. I love this. We're like, I get you, you get me, you know, we come in here. We come to this place to... We come to this place. Heartbreak feels good.

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