Some More News - Even More News: The GOP May Have Just Taken Away Your Healthcare

Episode Date: May 23, 2025

Hi. On today's episode, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan discuss the House's passage of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (that is its official name), the murder of two Israeli Embassy staff members in ...D.C., Amy Coney Barrett having a hint of integrity, and Trump doing a weird video book report in front of South Africa's president.PATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comYOUTUBE MEMBERSHIP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/joinSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:25 My name is Katie Stoll. Why hello? Because we're starting the show and that's a greeting that we say, hello, I'm Cody Johnston. Hi, good to see you. And that's the end of that part. Jonathan is also here.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Hi. There's a mighty contingency that we're gonna click away if Jonathan was not here, but he is here. Stay put. Stick around folks. Watching news is still happening regardless of my whereabouts. Before we talk about holidays,
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Starting point is 00:02:31 Friday, May 23rd, National Lucky Penny Day. Treasury Department says it will stop minting new pennies after the current blank templates used to create them run out in early 2026. Okay. I mean, we have an entire episode, well, not an entire episode. for the current blank templates used to create them run out in early 2026, okay. I mean, we have an entire episode, well, not an entire episode. There's not like 40 minutes to say about the penny,
Starting point is 00:02:50 but we do have an episode where we talk about how we should get rid of the penny. So you know what? That makes it all worth it. Thanks, Trump, for doing, ugh, yeah. Well, I guess there's nothing left to do but talk about the news, and thank goodness there's so much of it. Beautiful, I guess there's nothing left to do but talk about the news and thank goodness there's so much of it.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Beautiful, big, beautiful news. Big, beautiful bills full of news. Yeah. Big, beautiful. Jonathan, take it away. Yeah, I thought it was so funny yesterday when I saw that it's called the One Big Beautiful Bill Act,
Starting point is 00:03:23 which is a little redundant and stupid. Wait, wait, wait. What, what, what? They, like, like officially, like for real? Officially. Yes, it is officially called the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. Cody has taken off his headphones.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Okay. Cody has left the podcast. I don't like. The OBVBA. Abba, Abba, Abba. Abba, Obba. Abba, Obba. Cody has left the podcast. I don't like the OB VBA ABBA ABBA ABBA ABBA ABBA OOBA ABBA OOBA You guys know you guys know my Dave Letterman at the Oscars 30 years ago thing
Starting point is 00:04:01 Okay, so the thing passed it passed 215 to 214 I hate it. I hate it two Republicans voting no and three Democrats voting not being alive This is I thank you for saying this is remarkable. This is by one fucking vote We have three it is fast you must two in a week this is, and we'll talk about how relevant and important this is, and I brought this up to you guys yesterday, I also think it's just terrible luck that we keep having. You know, there are many old members of the Republican Party in the House, and it just so happened- The evil keeps them young.
Starting point is 00:04:44 The evil keeps their heart preserved. party in the house. And it just so happened that it appears that evil is just like makes your heart pump clean and it does wonders for your liver. Yeah, no, these Sylvester Turner, Jerry Connolly just died this week of cancer and he just happened to die the more like 18 hours before they voted on this bill and his vote could have required them to make more concessions to whomever in their party to get Thomas Massey and who the other guy on board. The second you're diagnosed, why aren't you stepping down and then having an interim person place. Ah, that's not the point of that.
Starting point is 00:05:27 We were gonna talk about the wonderful Bill Act, but I just keep thinking that. Like the level of, it's just so irresponsible. I mean, you know, you're in the position and stuff and that's where you've been building to your entire life and it's hard to let go, hard to let go of the power, hard to let go of all the things about it. Like I'm not saying like good, but like either the like general
Starting point is 00:05:49 reasons. I understand. I just, I get, I understand that. I of course understand that, but this is a very important job. Lives are at stake. Everything's at stake and I'm sorry if you are sick, you should stop. Give the hand the reins over. This was a conversation months and months ago too. Like obviously like AOC should have been in that position, the committee position. All these sort of things are emblematic of it.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And Jonathan, to your point, you're right. Like the Democrats don't have like a monopoly on old as fuck people being in their party. Obviously, if it weren't for Biden, Trump would be an extremely old president. We wouldn't be like, oh, he's younger than Biden. It's just it is unfortunate timing. And it's also frustrating because I see a lot of like, wow, even like every single
Starting point is 00:06:39 chance you get, you blame the Democrats for this and this and this. And it's like we're blaming them for like letting the bill pass. But these are issues that have been brought up time and time again as being problems that will become bigger problems. And as they become bigger problems and we're proven right, it's important to point that out and point out like what led us there.
Starting point is 00:06:58 And I also just find it gross to, not gross, but just like unhelpful to frame it like any chance you get. You blame Democrats. Well, yeah, they're the defense. You can you can criticize your defense so they get better. That's it's their job right now. And if they're not doing a good job, then you can point out reasons. You know, well, yeah, I mean, to continue this analogy, you might point out things that the other team did well. Like, it was just their day, they beat us and stuff. But like, that's all coaches do. Not that we're coaching the Dumbfats.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Maybe we should. But like, you know, all you can do is say, here's what happened. And like, I don't think just because you're 70 that you should step down or just because you have cancer, you should step down. Sylvester Turner was both and the chips just keep happening to fall in the way where Ruth Bader Ginsburg died at the worst possible time. These three, I think, well, I think it's like six Democratic House members have died in the last 13 months
Starting point is 00:07:57 and three since Trump got inaugurated. Three since Trump, yeah. It's just brutal, and they're taking advantage. You're right. Just because you're a 70, just because you're getting diagnosed with something doesn't inherently mean like, oh, you're not fit. But counterpoint also,
Starting point is 00:08:15 depending on the severity of the diagnosis or whatever you're dealing with, I think you deserve time to focus on your health and this job is stressful and not conducive to healing, not conducive to keeping you healthy in general. You've got to have this bill passed in the middle of the night. You know, you're sacrificing your health
Starting point is 00:08:35 and maybe your last weeks of life to just hold a position of power and ultimately be counterproductive to your own goals. So it's tricky, but. It's a stressful thing to do to your body when it's your body's already under a lot of stress. So I can't let's talk about what's in here. We're not here to talk about the big pile of dog. I don't mind talking about it because I think it's a very important issue.
Starting point is 00:09:02 But more important here's what is the actual effect of it We talked last week about a lot of the bad things that are in here that are still in here So go back and listen to those things right at the it's gonna take Medicaid away from millions of people It's going to save a bunch of money by cutting programs and giving that money Mostly to rich people they're getting the bulk of these tax cuts. I want to point out first that the Medicaid work requirements in here are so rigid and they require states to have their new systems for the work requirements set up by the end of 2026, which experts say is not a thing that's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I know there's an engineer and some programmers that are available now actually. Well, right, but it's gonna take- Grock, is this true? Yeah, at Grock. Can you do this by December 2016? Is your boss free? Does he have more free time?
Starting point is 00:09:55 Sorry, continue Jonathan, I'm sorry. Right, so a lot of people who should be eligible for Medicaid even with the work requirements are going to be thrown off because of how tricky it's going to be to renew and reapply, et cetera, et cetera. So millions of people are going to lose health care. Yeah, it's an example of like waste. Like it's a waste of time and effort. Any work requirement like this is just like, that is unnecessary.
Starting point is 00:10:24 It creates more roadblocks, it creates more steps, and it creates more paperwork and all these things that I thought that they didn't like having to deal with. I thought we were trying to reduce the bureaucracy. And it also bans Medicaid and Obamacare plans from covering gender transitions for everyone. The original text of the bill had the phrase, for minors at the end of the ban on gender transition
Starting point is 00:10:49 treatment, and it removed those two words. There's 120 million people estimated total who are on Medicaid or an Obamacare plan right now who lose that access. So deeply upsetting. Because they're liars. It's always been like the whole. This whole conversation has been about, maybe not the whole, there's plenty of people
Starting point is 00:11:09 that are just fucking outright bigots in every way imaginable. But the line that has been sold, which is already bad enough, is I just have concerns about minors. I just can't they wait till they're 18, et cetera, we all know the reasons why that. I support it after 18, like it's fine, do what you want, we're a free country and so on and so forth.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And that is just right out the window. It's always been clear that that's the lie. I know. I'm not saying you didn't know that. I know, oh I know. But just to point that out, like it's always been clear, it was always a lie. Listen to any of the freaks at the Daily Wire.
Starting point is 00:11:47 They've made it clear the actual position of the entire movement. Eradication. Matt Walsh in many ways is the most honest one because he will come out and say, actually, I don't think anybody. He'll say that on Joe Rogan, right? I don't think anybody should do it. Yeah. He says on Joe Rogan, Nolz says it about the eradication of the entire ideology
Starting point is 00:12:05 or whatever, however he likes to phrase it. It's just always sort of been an obvious thing. Even like Matt Walsh, Matt Walsh after the election was like, yeah, by the way, obviously we're gonna do project 2025. Obviously that was a lie, ha ha ha ha. Surely at least this bill doesn't add to our national debt. Well, we can't do that.
Starting point is 00:12:23 We wanna, we're trying to doge everything and get rid of the waste and the fraud and the spending. Too much spending. There were so concerned with our debt, right? But so surely this reduces our debt. Yeah, Elon's a $2 trillion savings didn't come to fruition, but this bill will add 2.4 trillion to the national debt over the next 10 years.
Starting point is 00:12:42 And look, we don't typically complain about the debt on the show, the money is fake, et cetera, et cetera. I have started reading some troubling things about when the level of spending on the interest of that debt is, exceeds how much you spend on Medicare or defense on Medicaid, and in the next 15 years, social security. I can't say what happens then.
Starting point is 00:13:09 So I definitely don't wanna weigh in on like, now I care about the debt. But like, seems bad and hypocritical. Well, and they're cutting stuff that we need and adding shit to the military and doing all this. Like it's also bad spending, you know? The crux of this is there's so many people that I have talked to that support cuts
Starting point is 00:13:32 that support Trump in some capacity, primarily because of the national debt. They're very concerned about it, you know, and they support cutting things because you don't want to add to the debt. After all of this, we still are. Well, right.
Starting point is 00:13:50 They've never actually cared. Once they get in office, they never actually care. They always add to it. They want to raise the debt ceiling. It's just an issue for them that they can say, the spendocrats. Always. It's always how it's been. So it's not like I've changed my position personally. I agree.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Like that's never been a huge concern of mine for the things that you're pointing out are potentially things that we should be concerned about and be aware of. But at the core of what I'm trying to say is just point blank. That was the whole justification and they're not doing it. They're hurting the country and not even saving the fucking money. This is kind of a side thing about their obsession with cutting. And they're not doing it. They're hurting the country and not even saving the fucking money. This is kind of a side thing about their obsession with cutting. But did you see Elon get asked that question where someone's like, hey, you only cut 160 billion.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Are you ever going to get to that two trillion? The number currently on doge.gov is $170 billion. That's a big change. What happened to the $2 trillion? What do you expect it to happen immediately? Well, is it going to happen? Because Doge is supposed to run until next July. Your question is absurd in its fundamental premise.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Are you assuming that within a few months, there's an instant $2 trillion saved? No, not at all. I'm just asking you, is that still your'm just asking, is that still your aim? Is that your aim to get to the amount of time that we don't make good progress given the amount of time? Yeah, he responds poorly because he seems very defeated, actually, in that conversation.
Starting point is 00:15:19 But yeah, it's like that's what I reject your premise. And then she's like, OK, but like if're, what is it, like two billion a day or whatever, they're averaging, although that is also, you know, points of contention there. But let's say, let's say two billion a day, she pointed out like, okay, but if you keep that pace, you're still not gonna make that two trillion by your deadline.
Starting point is 00:15:42 And he said, I believe this is like, you're just, this is like NPC dialogue tree stuff. You're just doing NPC dialogue. NPC dialogue tree. Like literally that was his response. You're talking to like a serious reporter. What the hell are you talking about, dude? He doesn't know, he doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:15:56 You're using your like little video game language. You're talking to a reporter who's asking you a serious question about something you said you were gonna do. With concrete numbers and like dates and information again from him, it's absurd. If anything, obviously he's doing the NPC dialogue tree by saying, use an NPC dialogue tree. Oh, you mean that thing you always fucking say? God. Okay, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Anyway, the big, the one big beautiful bill. Oh, and another way this is gonna really help rich people is that they did agree to raise the salt deduction cap To forty thousand dollars up from ten thousand dollars This will not exclusively but primarily help people in the top twenty percent because of course they have They pay more local taxes that they then don't have to pay federal taxes on you know They they were able to do that and get Mike Lawler's vote, right? Got him, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Man, it must be so great to have leverage. These guys get leverage for like a few days and then get something out of it. And then there's nothing to be learned from that. Then the Republicans do that. They do it. They do it over and over. Just don't think too hard about that.
Starting point is 00:17:00 That's not- I'm thinking so hard about it though. Forget about it, ignore it. It's not relevant to the games of politics, sorry. Do you know if they left in raising the child tax credit? Yeah, they are. That part is still in there. They're raising it $500. They're also the, they're not calling it baby bonds, whatever, the $and dollar baby check a thing. Is that still in there? Yeah, I think so
Starting point is 00:17:29 But I think well, I'm pretty sure last night checked it was still in there But the only change was instead of calling it a MAGA account Which is what it was called like your your money goes into your MAGA account They did a find and replace ostensibly and changed it to a Trump account, is what it's called. Oh, very good. I was about to say, I guess I should go have a baby, but never mind. Sign the checks, man.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Yeah. I think it's still in there, and that was the only change. Trump could legitimately get Medicare for All done if it was like, everyone will love me forever and do this, and the Republicans will do whatever they said and though the Republicans if you wanted to Believe people enough. Yeah. Yeah, and I don't even know that it would be worth all the horrible stuff He's doing right who can say the cost benefit of giving hundred billion dollars to ice but then also Medicare for all but like he He could he probably could but it was still like this thing. It would still be exclusionary. It would still
Starting point is 00:18:22 Have horrible implications in some ways. They'd find a way. They're evil. It'll keep them alive forever. OK, shall we move on to some more news or even more news? Even more news. So two people, Yaron Leshinsky and Sarah Milgram, they were staffers at the Israeli embassy. They were shot and killed on Wednesday night in Washington, D.C. as they were leaving an event at the Capitol
Starting point is 00:18:49 Jewish Museum held by the American Jewish Committee, which is a pro-Israel advocacy group. Local authorities said the suspect shouted, free, free Palestine after the shooting. Another witness said that he said, I did it for Gaza. So that's bad for everyone. It's horrific. Before we talk about this, because it's obviously incredibly nuanced and tricky, it's awful. This is, it's horrific.
Starting point is 00:19:17 And I do feel sad for these people, for their families. It's heartbreaking and also immediately the chorus is just shouting out from the rooftops that this is because of people protesting against the genocide, against what's happening in Gaza. And it's so unfair, you know, and infuriating. This whole thing, nobody's denying the rise of anti-Semitism and it's disgusting and it's horrific.
Starting point is 00:19:53 And again, you're conflating two different things together, which just makes it even worse. And to say that this is because of people speaking out and protesting instead of the actual horrific war crimes that are occurring is just really demoralizing. And I also want to create space and acknowledge that this is horrific and it's a terrible thing that happened, you know, multiple things can be true.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Yeah. Yeah, the response to this is gonna be very dangerous and bad probably. I'm already seeing people say that like, if you called this a genocide, then it's your fault as well. Or even using the phrase free Palestine, which allegedly the shooter used.
Starting point is 00:20:46 We're already seeing what Congressman, who was it, Randy Fine saying that the Palestinian cause is an evil one. And he weirdly brought up nuking Japan twice? Well, I think it speaks to the importance of the only end of the conflict is complete and total surrender by those who support Muslim terror. In World War II, we did not negotiate a surrender with the Nazis. We did not negotiate a surrender with the Japanese. We nuked the Japanese twice in order to get unconditional surrender.
Starting point is 00:21:21 That needs to be the same here. There is something deeply, deeply wrong with this culture, and it needs to be the same here. There is something deeply, deeply wrong with this culture and it needs to be defeated. What? He didn't directly say we should nuke Gaza, but the implications pretty terrifying, again, as a result of one person's politically motivated actions. You know, I don't want to be the Jewish person who says on the show, you know, we don't know that this was an anti-Semitic attack. It was a politically motivated attack, but just because you're anti-Israel doesn't mean
Starting point is 00:22:00 you're anti-Semitic, right? I don't want to like have to do that. And that should be your responsibility. I'll say it if you want. No, but like to say, to hear Trump and Netanyahu, and then we'll talk about the Jonathan Greenblatt quote, to hear it be weaponized so quickly against a movement and against a people is pretty terrifying.
Starting point is 00:22:26 This is one disturbed individual who should absolutely not have done what he did. He killed two people, one who was 30 and the other who was 26. Apparently he was going to propose to her next week and their lives are over now. And that's disgusting and awful and it does not help his cause at all. Now it makes it worse. But I really wish we could take a step back and see it for what it is, which is you can call it an act of political terrorism if you want, but to immediately say,
Starting point is 00:23:06 this is a hate crime because he said, free Palestine. And look, he was outside the cultural Jewish museum. Like it very well may have been motivated by antisemitism. I haven't looked at his socials, we'll see. But this is what the Anti-Defamation League does, and this is what the government of Israel does, is they weaponize any crime against a Jewish person as an example of anti-Semitism and thus an example of why the free Palestine movement or showing sympathy for Palestinians at all is conflated with antisemitism.
Starting point is 00:23:47 That's why they're saying Miss Rachel is an antisemite and is aligned with Hamas because she meets with a little girl from Gaza who has prosthetic legs now because hers were blown off by the IDF. Which we don't have this kind of reaction about when that happens. Right, not to both sides this, but like, or other side this, but Libs of TikTok never has to take accountability.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Tucker Carlson never has to take accountability when a fan of theirs does something horrible. I don't know who this person was a fan of. Yeah, real quick. No, that's- I'm just feeling really emotional about it today. It just hit me talking about it. Jonathan, thank you for saying all that.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I mean, it's just... everything's so fucked up. And, you know, we've talked about this before, like, and this conflation. And, like, if you are saying that any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism, then you're conflating these things that aren't the same thing, and then you arrive at where we are now. It's very, very dangerous. And even the Randy Fine in his quote said, we need to condemn and call out Muslim terrorism.
Starting point is 00:25:00 That came out of left field. What are you talking about? That's, there's, it's just a very again, like this weird double standard. Like imagine imagine somebody being like we need to condemn Jewish terrorism. Like that's just you wouldn't say that. And because of course you wouldn't. And so it's just like it's just an impossible conversation to have. Yeah, we haven't been talking about Islamophobic attacks
Starting point is 00:25:25 by Israel over the last year and a half. I'm sure there's a lot of Islamophobia at the top of the Israeli government. Yeah, they say it all the time. Right, but we don't talk about it as that kind of hate crime. We talk about it in political terms. We should play this clip of Jonathan Greenblatt. He's the head of the ADL, and he blames Hassan Piker.
Starting point is 00:25:49 All of us need to call it out. I'm thinking about the New York Times doing a gauzy profile a few weeks ago of this gamer, Hassan Piker, who regularly employs awful genocidal rhetoric against Jewish people in the Jewish state. Like, extremists should not be empowered. People who spout prejudice should not be platformed. This is a moment when we need to look ourselves in the mirror and say, we've got to stop this because the consequences are deadly.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Hassan does not share genocidal language toward the Jewish people. No, he doesn't. He added the Jewish state afterwards, which is, again, he criticizes the nation of Israel for doing lots of bombings and killings. That's what it is. And proudly doing it and talking about it all the time and how we need to level and destroy all the monsters or whatever it is that day. That's just a grotesque misinterpretation,
Starting point is 00:26:49 an outright lie of what Hassan has been saying this whole time and also failing to mention that, in this clip at least, that Hassan was detained at the border trying to enter the United States because of his social media and his work and questioned for hours about his posts and all of this, which is horrific and scary in its own right. But no, of course, that's not going to be a topic of importance to them in this conversation. Well, yeah, because right now it's like we we don't, this kind of happened on October 7th
Starting point is 00:27:26 as well. We don't get to talk about the tragedy at all because immediately we know the implications, how it will be weaponized, the reign of death that comes after this, the disproportionate reign of death. And I think, you know, and we've said this before that weaponization is anti-semitic the the forced conflation of uh me and my secular Jewish identity with the state of Israel is um anti-semitic and also just wrong you know it makes people less safe it's as we talked about. As we've seen, as we're seeing. Exactly. Yeah, it's escalatory. So I'm very sad that this happened
Starting point is 00:28:08 and I feel awful for these people and their families and whatever comes next. And whatever comes next, yeah. I feel so sad for them. I feel so sad for everyone in Gaza. I feel sad for everyone in Gaza. I feel sad for people being targeted. I feel deep anger at the misrepresentation of what is actually a call for peace,
Starting point is 00:28:34 which is actually a call for humanity. And that's, and I feel like upside down all the time. I will say, speaking of Ms. Rachel, everybody, if you do wanna have a little bit of hope in your life there's a this Wonderful video of her singing with this young girl From Gaza it I know it's it's and I think that girl It's like very brave of that girl's mother
Starting point is 00:29:00 I mean like her and her mother are on this video if that gets gets, if Trump sees that, you know, get them out. They're refugees here who escaped Gaza after their home was destroyed. But it is really, it's, you know, it's bitter sweet. It's not, it's- It's worth watching. It's worth watching though. It's very powerful.
Starting point is 00:29:29 It's a beautiful little video. I can't recommend enough We have to do this for all kids because they all deserve that Lighten up everybody we're gonna talk about the dumb guy broken record here, but something that would have been a remarkable scandal for any other president, if they did this, is the third, fourth, whatever story this is. Shocking, honestly. South African president Cyril Ramaphosa
Starting point is 00:29:59 was in Washington, D.C. He met with Trump yesterday. They had their little Oval Office meeting cameras reporters were there. Elon got to glare at him. Yeah, Elon was there. Everyone loved it. And at one point in the meeting, Trump is like, you know, dim the lights and then shows
Starting point is 00:30:18 this long video sequence. And there's a lot of stuff in this video and at one part he shows footage of white crosses lining a country road and filmed from above. Now this is very bad. These are burial sites right here. Burial sites. Over a thousand of white farmers and those cars are lined up to pay love on a Sunday morning. Each one of those white things you see is a cross and there's approximately a thousand of them. They're all white farmers, the family of white farmers. This is so absurd. Wonderful narration. It's true, right?
Starting point is 00:31:05 Surely, surely he's being accurate. That is footage in South Africa. It is a memorial for white farmers, not every cross. It is a memorial for two white farmers who were killed in an apparent armed robbery. Again, a horrendous tragedy, but not an example of white genocide. People who were killed in an armed robbery for which people were arrested.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Terms like genocide have definitions and like sort of requirements, and it's not just like an armed robbery? So yeah, so like, you know, typically the UN historians, genocide experts, international bodies weigh in on what is and is not genocide. They tend to like base it on historical trends and definitions. So he lied or didn't know if he thought each of those crosses represented.
Starting point is 00:31:55 He probably just repeated what Musk told him. Because I assume Musk cut this thing together, right? He also held up a printed out article, like someone printed out an article for him of a grave site and he showed the photo and said, look, here's burial sites all over the place. These are all white farmers. But the photo was of burial sites of women in the Democratic Republic of Congo. And the South African president, to his credit, you know, pushed back and said, I don't know
Starting point is 00:32:20 what this is or, you know, Trump could learn from listening to the South African people, et cetera. He's- Well, was it there, I don't know the guy's name, that South African billionaire was in the room and saying, you know, because there were other parts of this video of people talking in clips and basically saying like, that doesn't represent what's actually happening,
Starting point is 00:32:44 that's one small group and Yeah, there were there of the EFF Which is a political party in South Africa that holds fewer than 10% of seats in the National Assembly and There is footage of them doing the kill the boar Chance which you can ask rock about South African courts have ruled that it is not or chants, which you can ask Grok about. South African courts have ruled that it is not designated as hate speech on the basis that it is a historical liberation chant.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Activist courts. Not an incitement to violence, but I'll concede that it says kill the something. So fine, like whatever, it's a political party that is not in control in South Africa. None of us live there, have ever lived there. This isn't the country that we know all the ins and outs of everything, but by all reports and all understand,
Starting point is 00:33:37 this is a- All grokings. All grokings, there is violence, there is upheaval, but it's not targeted at one group over another. And this is, if you're to listen to the people, the president, this is a manipulation of the facts and the reality there, being politicized by Americans. Yeah, it's disgusting, it's weird. Genocide is again, a definable thing.
Starting point is 00:34:06 It clearly has the genocide going on. This is just like the David Sachs is and Elon Musk, the world are like, we got to do something about this fake thing. They if they're getting rid of the entire like refugee relocation program, but they're doing it for these people, for this fake problem. It's just I don't know, it's just really gross. Even the reporter asked him, like, does he think it's a genocide?
Starting point is 00:34:29 He's like, I haven't made up my mind. Then what, then what's, then what? Then what did you do? Then what? Why did you do this? Why? So you're the president. Like, when can the president get out there and be like, I don't know how I feel about this thing yet, but we're talking about it very heavily here.
Starting point is 00:34:42 You're the president. He's waiting to see how all of this plays. But there's a thing, you're showing footage of what you claim is a thing. You say you've never seen anything like it. But you haven't made up your mind. Has he looked at Gaza? But like the very act of this. Yeah, he can't wait.
Starting point is 00:34:58 The idea of like dim the lights, we're going to show this video. Like you're presenting that it's real. The entire event, the entire point, everybody like on the right tweeting about it, is like, look, this is what I voted for, to do something about the white genocide. Everybody is saying that it's a real thing around you, and you're asked, and you're like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Then go away, leave, stop it. Yeah, maybe I shouldn't weigh in on this. I'm not an expert, so maybe I should turn this over to someone who knows a, stop it. Yeah, maybe I shouldn't weigh in on this. I'm not an expert. So maybe I should turn this over to someone who knows a lot about it. Elon Musk? Elon, maybe I'll toss it to the most charismatic man in the room, Elon Musk, who can definitely explain this.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Also, he doesn't really seem to be stepping down, does he? He's always around still, Mr. Musk is. He's a lingerer. He is a lingerer. He's like the guy that you invite him over. There's like a dinner party at your house and everyone leaves at a reasonable hour, but he's the person that's still there.
Starting point is 00:35:52 And you're like, oh, it's getting real late, isn't it? And he's like, watch me twirl these plates on my finger. But then he makes the clutch decision to order pizza at 2 a.m., so. Oh my God. It was the other guy who did that. But I can't I can't I can never not. I can't I can't not. One of the funniest tweets ever.
Starting point is 00:36:13 OK, should we do a little good news? The Supreme Court is was deadlocked four to four in a case involving the creation of a faith-based charter school in Oklahoma. It would have been the first Religious school in America to be completely funded by taxpayer money It was an unsigned order first of all It's four to four cuz Barrett recused herself because she was involved with one of the schools that was working on this school and so she a person who I guess has some dignity. It's wild, it's wild.
Starting point is 00:36:47 And integrity. Some of the Barrett stuff, like everyone's like, what the, all right. I mean, yeah, she would have been the deciding vote on this and she's like, no, you know, I'm not supposed to weigh in on this and I have integrity, unlike two schmucks here I could think of.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I'm not saying that I love her or agree with everything, but I have been pleasantly surprised. It is interesting to see all the cat turds of the world be like, we gotta impeach Barrett. Look at all the women on the court ruining it for us. So pathetic. Yeah, so. Fuck off. We don't know specifically because it was unsigned,
Starting point is 00:37:20 we don't know who joined the liberals, probably Roberts. Although Roberts has wanted to have Christianity and religion have a bigger role in public life, but at any rate, it was four to four, they can't do this school, and so it goes back to how it's been, which is that public money can be used for vouchers, et cetera, et cetera, but like, we're not gonna, it's not gonna destroy
Starting point is 00:37:44 public education in America. Good news. Good news. That is great news. Excellent stuff. A judge also blocked the dismantling of the Department of Education for now. Yeah, it's all for now.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Every time like a judge blocks it, okay, well, what are they gonna do about it? But yeah, we'll see for now judge has ruled that Trump can't bulldoze Disney World for now it's still idling out in the parking lot they're waiting they're revving it up he's in there he's doing his little pose do you think I could take this bulldozer and just drive the hell out of here get the hell out of here. Get the hell out of here. I had a great life. I could end it all. No, it's good news.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Thank you, Amy Coney Barrett, for doing the thing that the code of ethics in the Supreme Court says you're supposed to do, but there's nothing holding you to do. Imagine that. The way Alito has never recused himself. He's like, I want this thing. Why would he?
Starting point is 00:38:41 He doesn't have to. All right, so there's this guy named Casper Erickson We're going from good news to bad news again. Yeah, no, sorry I only had two to three minutes to do the good news now We're back back to bad Casper Erickson was born in Denmark, but he has lived in the United States for more than 15 years He lives in Mississippi with his wife and four children and he went into a naturalization and four children and he went into a naturalization meeting at the immigration office and ICE, it was a trap. ICE was there to detain him because in 2015 he neglected to submit Form I-751 and even though his immigration process continued for years and no one ever told him that this would be a problem,
Starting point is 00:39:22 because of that he's been in ICE detention for more than a month and he lives in a geo group private facility where he says he's lost 25 pounds in the last month, though otherwise he has not been mistreated and the food is okay. Some immigration researchers told the Mississippi Free Press who reported this story that a lot of people who are keeping their immigration meetings are getting detained because it's just easier to get them than do these ICE operations that we don't have the money or manpower for. Yeah, it's much cheaper, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:39:58 And optics-wise, you can do it like, usually like indoors and things like that instead of, yeah, the raid version. How do you expect people to show up for the meetings that you say that they need to have if they're afraid of getting disappeared the second they step into their meeting? Also, not for nothing, it's just all so fucking sad.
Starting point is 00:40:18 But this form that they didn't submit, they apparently, his wife had just had a severed as from a stillbirth. So they were grieving and going through an immense tragedy for their personal lives. And there is a form that gets missed. One of the things that Americans love to do is rail against the bureaucracy and say how hard it is to get anything done.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Do you think it's any fucking different in terms of the immigration process? I mean, come on. I heard some clip of fucking interviewed JD Vance talking about this stuff, trying to whitewash everything by saying like, we don't wanna be, we wanna be humane. We wanna be inhumane. Like, I'm not gonna waive all rights, just a lot of them because for immigrants
Starting point is 00:41:08 or whatever. I just screamed and turned it off. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? This is beyond the pale. This is beyond inhumane. Scum. Vile scum. There's a quote from an immigration attorney in this article and she's talking about who's
Starting point is 00:41:28 getting detained and why and why it's a little bit chaotic because they're doing what's easiest to do. Yeah, whatever they can get away with, whoever they can grab, right? Yeah. Quote, it's totally random. This is the stupidity of it. There's no way for you to determine who's going to be picked up and who's not. You may show up for a scheduled hearing and get picked up. You may be driving
Starting point is 00:41:47 and get pulled over. It's really, really crazy right now. You know, they signed the House bill gives a ton more money to ICE for these operations. So it's now going to be these people showing up for their naturalization meetings, plus a bunch more people getting ripped off the street. But this is just another example, just the latest story we've heard about where reporters were able to speak to him and his family and detail it. And not that it matters.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Not that maybe anyone on the right will care, but he's a white guy from Denmark, who lives in Mississippi. I was gonna say, it's a bummer that that was one of my thoughts reading this story, where it's like, well maybe they'll care about this one, because he happens to be white, and he's from Denmark. Maybe this is the one, where it's like, well he did all this stuff and this stuff and this stuff, and he went through the proper channels,
Starting point is 00:42:43 he missed a form, sorry, but he's white. So maybe. But they'll just care about, they'll be like, oh, that's not right, right? If there's a big fear over it, they'll get him out. But everyone else where the circumstances are identical, but the person, you know, came from Guatemala instead of Denmark, they won't get that benefit doubt.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I hope they all get out. I hope they all get out. I hope they all get out. Is Caspar Ericsson a gang member? Does he have any tattoos? Maybe, yeah. Maybe he'll get sent to El Salvador, Venezuela. South Africa? Not South Africa, other parts of Africa.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Yeah, South Sudan. They're sending people to South Sudan now. Well, we did it. Is there other good news? Twitter's kind of down right now. That's good news. We like when Twitter's down. The Tush Push isn't banned.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Anyone in football care about that? Tush Push? No? You don't know what I'm talking about? Okay. The new season of Hacks is kind of fun. I started watching the real Mormon Wives or whatever that show is about the Mormon wives. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:48 That's interesting. Any thoughts on that? It's fine, it's interesting. It's one of those things where it's like, you watch a reality show and you're like, oh wow. But you're like, it's a reality show. They're like, in a way being told what to do and say. But there's some interesting tensions between Mormonism and the lives these young women would like to lead.
Starting point is 00:44:06 But that's not news and I wouldn't even call it good. So I don't know what to say. I'm seeing Mission Impossible on Saturday. A little disappointing, but I will sit through. I will sit through however many flashbacks of the previous movies you want to so I can see that weird dude hang from a plane and hold his breath for eight minutes. I'm going through the entire series now. Are you?
Starting point is 00:44:31 Yeah. Most of it is great. Fun, good news. Housekeeping, we will not be doing a show on Monday cause it is a holiday. One of them is Memorial Day. It is in a real way. It's a real one. It's a real one.
Starting point is 00:44:46 So we won't do a show Monday, but we will have the other shows next week. And that'll be good. Oops, just knocked over my drinks. No, you didn't, you caught them. But I caught them. But I did knock over two drinks and caught them. That's some good news to end on.
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