Some More News - Even More News: The Trump Administration Can Deport Whomever They Want, Including You

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

Hi. Katy, Cody, and Jonathan dig into the Trump administration's terrifying refusal to comply with the Supreme Court and its implications for everyone. They also discuss how DOGE is sending spam emails to people to self-deport even Americans, Bill Maher's fancy dinner date with Trump, and more. PATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hello, welcome back to Even More News Monday edition, the first, the only Monday edition podcast. My name is Kathleen Rachel Stoll. Whoa, we got the full name today Wowzer yeah, I'm Cody like Cher Just that Cody like Cher yeah Jonathan is Also here, that's not the phrase it is yeah That's it. Hi. Yeah, Jonathan Harris. I'm not giving you my middle name

I like some anonymity amid the hundreds of Jonathan Harris. Jonathan Michael, Jonathan Anthony Jonathan Tony. Perry Peter. It's easy to find out. Please don't. Mary. Like why bother? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well just move on from that How are you guys? How was your weekend? Some of you went to see Bernie speak. It was fine. I've seen him talk before. Yeah. It's, you know, he says the things

that you'd expect him to say. AOC was, I'd never seen her speak. And so it was nice to see. Great shot of that tree you posted. Thank you. I got a great shot of her from behind a tree. Got a very similar shot of Bernie speaking from behind that same tree. And it was neat to see her speak because as we've discussed on the show, whether you like it or not,

she's going to be a president one day. So why not see her now? We're going to have those. We're still going to have those? Yeah. Oh, presumably. Well, we're going to have two countries and one is going to be in our minds and one will be in the real world and we get to hide in our own version of it. And it was a Mammy, mainly it was, I always liked going to those things to see for the vibes. No vibes are good. People see people uplifted and sort of inspired and happy about various things. So things are good, right? It was a good weekend for the news.

Yeah, that's the reaction. Yeah, so the Supreme Court did finally release a ruling, you know, not a signed official ruling, one of those shadow docket rulings saying the federal government must facilitate the release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, but the district court may not have been able to order them to effectuate that return. And so now there's this whole debate about facilitate versus effectuate. Who cares? The district court started asking for daily updates about his whereabouts and the steps

that the government was taking to get him released. And they were like, well, he's alive, but he's in the sovereign nation of El Salvador, and it's not our problem. And we interpret facilitate as like, we'll leave the door open should he arrive here, but we can't get him out. The deals president can't get the guy they mistakenly

sent there out. And now today, El Salvador president Naib Bukele is at the White House and he says, no, I'm not gonna release him. It's up to me and I'm not gonna do it. And okay, so even though the Supreme Court- He doesn't have the power. Yes, because of this like stupid, very narrow

wishy washy Supreme Court ruling that says, yes, you can't send people away without due process. Yes, you should facilitate his return,, you can't send people away without due process. Yes, you should facilitate his return, but you can't control the federal government depending on what they're doing on foreign policy. You don't know what foreign policy is. You don't know about the relationship. Is that actually a part of it though?

That's just the argument that's being made about it. That's what the Supreme Court ruling says is that the district court can't order them to do relations with foreign governments which allows the president to say well I don't really have to. But the president could do that. Right. He doesn't need the Supreme Court to tell him to do this for him to do it is what I like I just want to point out like yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Supreme Court doesn't say this, this, this is he could do it anyway if he recognized that it's actually a horrific thing that happened and we should have that person come back instead

of having the press of El Salvador sit next to him and say, in fact, Mr. President, you have 350 million people to liberate. But to liberate 350 million people, you have to imprison some. That's the way it works, right? You cannot just free the criminals and think crime's going to go down magically. You have to imprison them so you can liberate. Wrongfully? Sure, I guess. Why not? Sorry, Katie, go ahead.

Facilitate says it to me. Facilitate. Legal terms. Also, what is this? This is our great deal making president, right? You're telling me he can't get this person out? He's tired. He had to go to a fight over the weekend. But we have a deal.

We're paying them, which is, although the deal is illegal and unconstitutional and they have to get to that, right? But like, you can't just take people and kidnap them and send them to some other country to live in a dungeon What are we talking about, but? That's the thing like we shouldn't have to be talking about whether or not the Supreme Court says he has to bring back the kidnapped Person or he needs to leave the door open for the kidnapped person to return on their but like on their own volition

Just like I'm back is the door openition, just like, I'm back. Is the door open? You guys, like, you know I'm a super. I'm seeking asylum now in the United States because I escaped from this El Salvador president. You guys know that I am a very, like, in the weeds detail oriented type of person. So it would please me so much if this was a normal situation where I could parse the difference between the words

Facilitate and effectuate but once we get to that point, I'm like, what are we? What are we talking about here? Like even me who would love to do all the legal mumbo-jumbo It's like what are we even doing? We're gonna go back and forth. He's delaying No, this guy is just not gonna come back. They sent him away forever. Oopsie, admitted it was an oopsie, which Trump is probably mad about, and now that's that. And I just don't know what else to talk about. It's like, I've seen people, the chatter,

and like, why wouldn't he want to, why wouldn't he, I don't know, illuminating how horrific this situation has been. You don't want him speaking to the press. You don't, but you just don't want this. You don't want, you want to be able to deport people and ignore the rule of law is really what it is. You don't want to have to be governed by the judicial branch. I want to read this quote from Lawrence Tribe in an NPR

interview, which I think gets to a point that we've been circling and saying for weeks. But I think he said it pretty effectively. He said, well, if he's released, I will be somewhat relieved. But the position the government is

taking is so extreme that his release, unless they pull back and say in the future, we're not going to try this with anyone else. That's not going to be very much solace. It's all voluntary on the part of the government. That doesn't give you any guarantee. The whole point about a police state

isn't that it always acts to silence people, or to imprison them, or to torture them. It's that the sword of Damocles hangs over all of us all the time. Yeah, it's a really good quote. It is, again, what we've talked about for too long. They just decide who and when and what. It doesn't matter. We're all criminals potentially in their eyes. All they have to do is say it and they just have to send you away. And then no matter what, they

can be like, oops, sorry, end of story, moving on. And then eventually that's the end of it and they will move on. And everyone should be more aware. Everyone, everyone listening knows this. Just like it's just that like you're on the list too. It's just where you are in the place you like, you can slip through the cracks very easily. So many people I've seen in the bad news sphere, the particularly bad, sort of talking around this and giving excuses and they're like,

it's gonna have to happen. In order to get, it's kind of what you said, you gotta imprison people in order for this good thing, this good goal to happen, this is just gonna happen. You're gonna miss people. You're going to, uh, people are going to suffer accidentally. And that's just how it is in order for enough of the right people to be the

deported. And it's just, uh, especially with, uh, this doge automation of immigration and deportations. But before we talk about that, I want to update everybody on Mahmoud Khalil, because there has been some developments in that situation as well. An immigration judge ruled that Mahmoud Khalil can be deported. Why? He believes things. He believes that... Like why? still waiting on any

Palestinian information as to what human and you know, but of course, he expressed I'm sure the phrase they use is expressed anti-Semitic viewpoints or anti-Semitic activity. Yeah, I mean, this is all part of this big wrapped up thing, right? The Supreme Court not really pushing back and saying, well, there's these narrow things. Meanwhile, they're deporting hundreds of people

to El Salvador and not doing any due process. We don't know anything about them. They're not proving their case. And then people on student visas, if they are not even out of line, they are just expressing any viewpoint about Israel that they don't like, they're out. Copy the text that was used to argue from the government that Ramesa Ozturk, who wrote

that Tufts op-ed or co-wrote it, should be deported, was the exact same phrasing used on Canary Mission, which is just a website, a Libs of TikToki type website that is just cataloging, here are the people who are engaging in anti-Semitism on college campuses. They just copied and pasted it and are using it to deport her. – So thorough, really solid reasoning. – Real quick that we don't know all the details about this attack yet, but someone broke into the governor's mansion in Pennsylvania and Set fire to it and said they were gonna find governor Josh Shapiro and hit him with a hammer and This was happening on Passover on a pass. So we don't know specifically that

antisemitism was a Motivator, but you would think that if this was such a priority among the administration that there would be a lot of statements of condemnation of it. Yes, so I yeah 100,000%. I would assume they would simply laugh at it. Right, right, and to be clear as Jonathan already stated this is an evolving situation we don't have all the information. It is highly suspect that this attack happened on a Jewish holiday, you know, while they were there celebrating, or in the evening, later in the evening of that. And yeah, for an administration that's so

very worried about anti-Semitism, which actual anti-Semitism is a big problem and should be condemned and yet they don't. Again, every week I'll just say the guy did some Heil Hitler's on the stage so there are actual anti-Semitism. Rampantly all of this underscores the fact that they're obviously, what we've been saying week after week, they don't actually care about actual anti-Semitism. No they don't care. They will be joking about this very very soon. I've already seen people be like, cat turd, I want to say it's not relevant what cat turd says but like Elon and Vance I assume follow him and get all their cues from

him. He's like so just like last week Tim Walz was joking about Tesla stock going down, but now he's upset about this fire. Violent attack. The little hypocrite is like, yeah, what? All right, good stuff, good point. You know, and a lot of people comparing it, just like this, I saw a lot of, like this is what you get

when you let people vandalize Teslas. And look, I don't know where I land on that. I don't, it doesn't particularly bother me vandalizing Tesla's, to be honest. But there's just such a clear demarcation between that and letting the governor's mansion that people are currently living in on fire. Did you guys get emails about your need to leave the United States? But to be honest, John, and then I also haven't checked my spam folder,

which is where the majority of emails asking me to leave the country go to. And I just, I don't know. From what? Automated at cbp.dhs.gov. Oh yeah, that's definitely getting swept up in my spam folder. A lot of people received these emails that apparently Doge and AI helped automate to

let people know it's time to leave the United States. People who got these include US citizens, a Canadian citizen living in Canada, immigrants who have no reason to think that they would be deported. It's unclear if they're following up on these. It's just like, I think it's a big let's blast it out and see if people quote unquote self-deport. It's like the most amateurish. It's like someone sent, oh, you meant to send it to this part of the list and you sent it to everyone or you clicked reply all when you meant to just click reply.

It's that kind of stuff on a huge scale with terrifying implications. Every step of the way. It's just like, well, that's a bad, usually evil idea. And then they execute it poorly. Like, it's bad for so many reasons, and it's's so stupid and like, it's all funneling into, yeah, I don't want Doge to be in charge of anything technology based. They seem to be making things worse.

Even updating like code in like various like social security administration systems where it's like, don't rewrite this because you're gonna make it worse yeah it's old but like you're gonna make it more complicated and they're also sorry I'm just all over the place I understand I know I'm just sort of I'm doing great thank you so much they're also moving all of social social security communication to X. Oh no way. Maybe we can force the seniors to get accounts on my platform.

Everything's there. Everything's already there. It's so stupid. It's so... Also, you're just shoveling business to Elon Musk again as another example of that. So much of this comes back to this conversation we keep having, the governor as a business, and efficiency over, it's not a business, this is a vital aspect of our lives, people rely on the government,

it is not here to make money off of us, X, Y, Z. Not a business. We're not supposed to be, but this is just, it's not like a business doing a mass email to people and some people are going to see it and some people aren't. This is your government. This is the United States fucking government. This is sloppy and embarrassing and I know I'm preaching to the choir, but you have to

just state the obvious every day it seems that this is madness. They're running the government like a business. They're running the government like a business. They're running the government like one of Elon's businesses. This is how he runs his companies. This is a huge look into a 350 million person look into how he runs his companies. Inefficiently, poorly, based on his whims. And now you've got a government that's being run

based on the whims of like now you've got a government that's being run based on the whims of like multiple megalomaniacs. You know, I mean, we're not even talking about tariffs today because they flipped on and off six times over the week and no one knows, no one knows. Like Apple doesn't know if they're bringing a phone and how much it's gonna cost them to do that. This is madness.

This is not how you run a business, a small business business a large business CEOs are freaking out because they're like they're making us look like assholes and finally they voted for this so obviously yeah must swims and impulses and his ideology infecting Trump who doesn't really believe in anything but himself and power and so he's got his ideas that get funneled into the inefficient businessman, because like it's also like,

yeah, they're run by like must businesses, which, as you said, poorly inefficiently, not and ineffectively, racists, racists, oh, yeah, all of them, all the all the adjectives.

And then you also have the way that Trump runs businesses, which is going bankrupt a bunch of times. So like, they're both bad businessmen and they're both trying to run the country, which is not a business, like they're many bad businesses. Yep. It doesn't seem like a good idea. But maybe it is. We'll give them time. Maybe they'll reverse, reverse, reverse the tariffs

and then everything's just going to skyrocket. So you know how Elon promises things, oh, we're going to be on Mars in the next five years. It's going to be full driving for real this time. Yeah, it is. So wait, is it not those things? No, those things are not happening. Oh, I gotta go outside.

I was just, I had it marked in my calendar and everything. So speaking of promising that something's gonna be solved in a matter of months, that's not a thing. Here's RFK Jr. Oh, God. At a cabinet meeting talking about vaccines and autism, which I don't know if you guys know, that's kind of his thing. And we have, as you, we have now, the autism rates have gone from now most recent numbers

we think are going to be about one in 31, one in 20, so they're going up again. From one in 10,000 when I was a kid, and we are going at your direction, we are gonna know by September. We've launched a massive testing and research effort that's gonna involve hundreds of scientists from around the world. By September, we will know what has caused the autism epidemic and we'll be able to eliminate those exposures. That's so big. Think of that.

So there was one in 10,000 children had autism and now it's one in 31. Not 31,000, 31. That is a horrible statistic, isn't it? Yeah, we got them. We're gonna find it out. This is Yahoo News. Head of new RFK junior vaccine study, practiced unlicensed medicine on autistic kids.

It's bad, folks. Well, we're gonna figure it out. Yeah, it's very bad. This is kind of thing that, I mean, that whole cabinet meeting was wild. But this particular moment should stand out to people because it is a very clear signal amongst all the noise because they're not going to find out. There's tons of research on this topic. So to frame it like this is odd.

Like, we're going to find out if you're calling it in April. That's a weird thing. That's weird. Scientists don't do that. Doctors don't do that. They don't say we're going to find out the cause of this by five months from now or whatever it is. This is not how science works. You're not you're not Babe Ruth out there calling your shot like that. Although, yes, Biden said he would cure cancer by the end of his term, whatever.

The goal of this isn't that they're going to do a bunch of studies and have evidence by September. We know what causes this. The point of him saying that is that they are currently, they're not currently doing studies that isn't going to prove anything. They're currently getting together the material to release in September

to justify their already deeply held beliefs about the cause of autism. These debunked beliefs, they are simply putting together the report now that they plan on releasing in September. And it'll be presented as like, look, all this new information, it'll probably be cobbled together by a bunch of debunked studies, maybe some new studies that will be debunked, but it's going to be a cobbled together mess to present to the American people this conclusion that they've already arrived at. I want to point out a few things about what he says here, RFK.

First of all, autism is not an epidemic. This idea that there was an autism before there is now, that's not true, right? Diagnostics change. And to suggest that it is this scourge that is afflicting people and we're going to remove it is not only untrue, but like deeply offensive to people with autism. I also want to point out that he is pretending like, well, we're going to, we're going to do the science and figure it out. And then he says, and we will be able to eliminate those exposures. What if it's not caused by an exposure to something? Right. That seems like what you believe already.

And I'm pretty sure I know what this September report is going to say. Oh, look, it's exposure to the thing I've been saying for decades. That's not true. And listen, doctors are going to ignore this stupid report. They're still going to recommend vaccines, but people are going to be even less likely to want to take them. The vaccine uptake is going to go down. Children are going to have fewer vaccines and we're going to see more infectious diseases. We're going to see more measles outbreaks, certainly.

Outbreaks, yes. Who knows what else? Because the president reported that we shouldn't be doing them. And then you're going to have these moments where like every few months after constant badgering, RFK is going to go out with a statement or something or like a piece in Fox News being like, you should get this particular vaccine. Like this is the one vaccine you should get quietly because people will start to die. It's terrifying. Um, I also just keep just in general, not that we, uh, succeeded with COVID,

but, uh, just the erosion and public trust with medicine and science and all of it, and just the next time something happens in general, the inability to contain the next infectious, you know, it's so terrifying. I mean, I can't put it out of my brain. Oh, it's not happening. I mean, yeah, keep it in your brain. But at least the R word's back, so there's that. Yeah, we love it.

Robert. Robert, it's just a good word. Robert, Robert. Yeah, this whole,. Robert. Robert, it's such a good word. Robert, Robert. Yeah, this whole, I mean, the whole cabinet meeting was, we can move on from it, but there were two other moments I thought were very interesting. One is speaking of all the lies and all the predictions

and of, for example, Elon Musk in it, I believe he announced that by the end of twenty twenty six they will have found and gotten rid of an amount of fraud and waste and abuse that is equal to. Can I have a guess? I mean, I know the answer, so I'm not going to. Why don't you guess your answer that you know, Jonathan? I believe he said 150 billion 150 billion dollars a lot of money Well, thanks to your fantastic leadership this amazing cabinet the very talented doge team

I'm excited to announce that we anticipate savings in FY26 from reduction of waste and fraud by $150 billion. But wait, but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but Billion is about two trillion, right? I mean they're the same number essentially. Yeah. Yeah, it's about Two trillion about two trillion by the end of 2025 is 50 billion by the end of 2026 this cabinet meeting was so wild They just like set up there like we're putting it on TV That's weird. Like this is this is yeah, and then everyone had to be like sorry under your leadership We are going to facilitate I mean we're going to make happen the the largest influx of goodness

into America in 600 years at least since the founding of the country Your strong leadership healthy your six foot three 224 pounds and look I don't want a body shame. But that dude is not. Is he not? Is he not? But anyway, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, but he is obviously,

according to that cabinet meeting, a very handsome, sweet, smart young man. And there's obviously the lies. the whole dear leader aspect was very disturbing and entertaining in various mixture of parts. Just like comedy, tragedy. It's all mixed up. Constantly back and forth. There's one moment where somebody said, and I thought this was really interesting, that she said, like we've been working together so much and it's more than a government,

like we're a family. She said we're a family. Sir, first, we are, I would say more than friends, we've all become family. And I think that what you have assembled in your vision is a turning point and an inflection point in American history. And so just being a part of that is the greatest honor. So thank you for that. And again, just the relationships here and the honor and respect we have for each other.

And obviously, again, dear leader, all that kind of stuff. An abusive, dysfunctional family. Yeah. But I thought it was so interesting because imagining like, if you take away the whole like cult stuff and the authoritarian government and like, yes, sir, thank you, sir. We're such a family. Like that thing. If this was a democratic administration and a woman at a cabinet meeting said, we're all family here, the right would flip out and talk about how we need to get women out of the workplace and how that's we're not a family. No, this is your job.

You go in and you do your job. Stop trying to, like, feminize the workplace and make everybody seem like it's a family. Like they would flip out. And it doesn't matter. It's just one of those little things, one of those little things you see. And you're like, oh, that's they'd flip out, but it certainly doesn't matter. It's just one of those little things, one of those little things you see and you're like, oh, that's. I don't know if they'd flip out, but it certainly wouldn't play. I think they would flip out.

I think they would flip out. Well, we should wrap this up pretty soon, but Cody, I know you've been chomping at the bit to talk about Bill Maher and his just lovely romantic dinner with our dear leader. Yeah, I've been chomping, I've been champing, I've been chomping and- Schlumping, I don't know.

Schlumping. Bill Maher presented this idea that he was going to have dinner with Donald Trump. Kid Rock set it up. Because Kid Rock set it up. And I think we've mentioned this before. To start, nobody really cared. I didn't see people react to this announcement

like this is disgusting and you're like, you're not woken up or whatever. You're canceled. Like no one's canceling Bill Maher for this. He started the announcement by like, and I know people say this and this and this. He started the announcement by like, and I know people say this and this and this. It's like you're pre-cancelling yourself to get attention and to make it seem like this bigger thing than it actually is. So that was just sort of like, nobody really cares. Like, yeah, we can,

like people are saying like, don't do that. That's stupid. But it's not like a big scandal that you're doing this. But he wanted it to be, couldn't shut up about it. But he went and he did a 12 minute long monologue about how it went. And it's very stupid that he did this. And in the monologue, he basically talks about how nice Trump was to him personally during this interaction and how the tour was really nice. And I could make my little comments. I made jokes and like he laughs. I've never seen him laugh on camera before in public, but he's like a normal guy.

And he sort of gushed over him for a good 10 minutes and sort of like, yeah, I could say whatever. And like, he was a real person. Like I voted for Obama and Clinton and like I would never Think to talk to them like this and it was just refreshing It's like first of all probably because you know that like they're smarter than you and you can't like do your little comments

At one point we were walking through his amazing It is an amazing tour of the whole house and I don't remember exactly what we were talking about But it must have been something with the 2020 election because I know he used the word lost. And I distinctly remember saying, wow, I never thought I'd hear you say that. He didn't get mad. He's much more self-aware than he lets on in public.

Look, I get it. It doesn't matter who he is at a private dinner with a comedian. It matters who he is at a private dinner with a comedian. It matters who he is on the world stage. I'm just taking as a positive that this person exists because everything I've ever not liked about him was, I swear to God, absent, at least on this night with this guy. What an embarrassing display from Bill Maher, a rube and a mark that has been used for publicity for Donald Trump, who he allegedly hates.

He even says in the monologue, it doesn't matter how Trump acts in private at dinner with a comedian. It matters how he acts on the national stage. I agree. Why did you bother telling us? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

I mean, I just wanna say, yeah, people can be charming and monsters, a lot of them are. A lot of them are really good at- Famously charming. Famously charming. And you know, I agree with everything you said. We talked about this beforehand. There's some amount of this that has been framed

or that he's trying to frame it as, you know, we need to be able to talk to people. We need to be able to, and I am gonna say that I do still believe that. I will also acknowledge that it's become harder and harder for me as a lot of you predicted, you know, but that doesn't mean that I still maintain that there's a lot of people that, you know,

it's worthwhile and I think it's important that at some point, but it goes both ways. It's not, the onus of that is not just on the left to be like the bigger person or what have you. But I do want that. However, that's not what this is. That's not what he's doing and what he's presenting as Cody has already articulated, is worthless.

It's like, yeah, we get it. He's nice to you. What matters is what he does on the public stage. And so, yes, it does some amount of PR. It is some amount of, you know, like, I know people are going to be mad at me about this. And no one actually is because no one really gives a shit about Bill Maher. Yeah. I don't know what to take away from that. Is he saying don't you should you should settle down because he is a person and he has empathy so he's just doing everything for TV and you the liberals out there should just like chill out? Is that what he's saying? Like what am

I supposed to take away that you had a dinner with the president? Something about this also reminds me of our conversation last week about Chamath being like, well I donated all this money to Obama and I never got to have a dinner or have a conversations about this. So okay, so these rich powerful people are like, well actually he's not that bad because he gave me the time of day. So that's all that matters to you is that you've been invited and you got the tour, the very good tour of the White House that he gives. It's just, it's illuminating. Well, it's the same thing. It's what he's, it's what, like you're saying,

like, yeah, he's even said in the monologue, like I've never, I wasn't invited to speak to Obama or anything like that. I was invited here. And it's sort of like that, like, yeah, yeah. And it's all stuff that Bill Maher I'm sure has said in the past in other like monologues about Trump like yeah, he personally Like does these has he connections with people and he treats individuals personally well in private, but that doesn't matter if

He's this way or this way or this way and if it's this sort of like weird Like personal favor avenue, is he gonna be on your show now? Because that's the thing. Real time with Bill Maher or his podcast Club Random. I would love to see Club Random actually. So random you guys. But like in the monologue,

and he's, again, it's these sort of pre defenses of criticisms that no one was really making. But like he says in the monologue, this wasn't a summit, right? Like it's not like a summit, like it's not making a big deal out of it. It's just a dinner. It's not like some like, I'm not making deals.

I'm not like, there's no, it's like whatever. But then also he makes this big like passionate free speech like sort of speech about how, you know, we need to have these conversations. Like, it's important to like reach across the aisle, have these conversations. Like, what's the use of, you know, hurling insults at each other 3,000 miles away? So like, we need to like we need to be able to have these conversations. But I thought it didn't matter. It was like it's not a summit.

It's not where I'm gonna be doing anything. But it's important that I'm there and that like we have these conversations that I make my points and he listens to me. He listened to me to make these points. Okay, but you said it wasn't that, but it does really matter, but it doesn't matter. It's just, again, this sort of like presenting a false,

like this weird illusion and being like look but I got to go I don't know and I'm not trying to cancel Bill Maher or cancel Gretchen Whitmer that's not what this is about but like the dude is flagrantly violating the first the fifth the 14th Amendment take your pick once a guy is doing that you don't go and visit him. You don't try to say, well, we're going to make a deal on this thing. You know, because he talked about the Great Lakes and I don't want him to pollute the Great Lakes or whatever the case may be. Yeah, it's it's embarrassing. One, I want to button this up because I think that's like

that's the main point is that you went and you did this and you got your little dinner and you made the news about yourself for a couple of weeks. Congratulations. You know who he is, whether or not he was nice to you and charming, because he's again, he's an entertainer. He was a, he's a businessman. His whole fucking thing is being a con man. He's two faced. He was conning you, you Rube. I've seen so many people be like, but like, what did they get out of it? What they like? It's like you don't lose anything from like just talking to him. And then you give this monologue gassing him up. Benny Johnson, a fan of the show, this dumb piece of shit.

At this fight over the weekend. Here's a tweet from Benny Johnson. Backstage was insane. At 2 a.m. I can report that Trump was brimming with energy, dancing, joking, roasting people, beaming about the future, especially after the new Bill Maher Maga monologue. What a moment. What a fighter. That's what you did. The what you accomplished with this was giving fuel and ammo for the right to say, look, even Bill Maher thinks he's nice and great.

It was free publicity, you dumbass. We've got to wrap up. We get to wrap it up. Thanks guys. We'll be back soon in just a few days. Pew, pew, pew, pew, pow, pow, pow. We love you very much. Much.

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