Some More News - Even More News: They Started Lying About Alex Pretti Within Minutes

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

Hi. On today's episode, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan talk about the murder of Alex Pretti by Border Patrol agents, the administration's immediate attempts to smear him, and the move by Trump to throw his subordinates under the bus.And as always, we recorded right before that big thing that happened.PATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comYOUTUBE MEMBERSHIP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/join#AlexPretti #DHS #evenmorenews Pluto TV. Stream Now. Pay Never.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today we will be focusing on the absolute tragedy that occurred over the weekend, the murder of Alex Preddy and all that has occurred since. Hey, hello. Welcome back to Even More News, the first and only news podcast. My name is Katie Stoll. Did it. Hey, yeah, you did. What's up? I'm Cody. These are props. These headphones are fake. So are mine. I'm wearing earbuds. I saw you guys wearing headphones. Wait, you. You doing the double bud? Yeah, I got good guys in here And these are I mean these work But they're not plugged in

Jonathan's also here Okay, calm down And he's got headphones on too Yep As if we were going to do the show Without Jonathan I mean we did We have

For a long time It worked totally fine I think When you became a father We had a period of time Where you weren't here And we almost fell apart Oh I felt great about that

Good thing Fraternity leave ended at some point That's what you want to see right Well, yeah, you want things to go well, but not so well where you're like, we could do this without him. That's how I feel. So. That's why you, I'm very hard pressed to miss a show because I can't let you guys learn the truth. No, come on.

Everyone was heartbroken. Oh, yeah. If your absence isn't felt, and that's, that's when we got a, we got to like really, really, you know. We got to. Yes. We got to feel bad. Okay. Well, we've started this off nice and light.

We have started speaking. A terrible fucking weekend. Just absolutely gruesome chain of events that we're about to get into. Another protester, Alex Preti, was murdered by ICE in Minneapolis over the weekend. And heartbreaking, infuriating. but people were normal about it when it happened people were so normal about it and at least there's that Jonathan I'm just going to hand it over to you to get us started

one quick correction it was border patrol I was going to say yeah not ice I apologize we're we're putting I think when we say abolish ice and when we talk about ice we are largely talking about DHS operations as a whole right these days so CBP as part of that and plus who can tell the difference when they're roving around in plain clothes and masks as these guys were. So Alex Pretti was killed on Saturday morning.

And it's, you know, another video that's pretty open and shut. I feel like they, you know, they pepper. He intervenes to try to help a woman who'd been pepper sprayed. Then they pepper spray him. Then they throw him to the ground. Then some agent removes. A mob of them. A mob of agents start beating him.

One agent removes the gun he was legally allowed to carry and then they shot him. Ten times? This should go without saying, but it's such a messy soup of misinformation and opinions that just feels important to clarify that and boldly state it. He was not holding the gun in his hand.

He was legally allowed. to carry that gun. What happened is so very clear. A person trying to save somebody, trying to help somebody. He was an ICU nurse. I just wanted to point out that they're like about the misinformation because it's misinformation. It's also it's disinformation.

Like it's not like, oh, I'm misinterpreting the videos. Like, no, you're lying. You're lying. There's so many lies, all the lies out there. It's really, really just so they're getting so much bolder. and is really, really disgusting. You know, we have a whole bunch of stuff to talk about their initial reaction, right?

Because within 30 minutes, Christine Ome and Stephen Miller are calling him a domestic terrorist and doing their whole thing. An assassin. An assassin, yes. They was there to massacre them, is the claim. We'll talk about how the administration's tone

has softened as of Monday morning. Like, we'll get to that, but there was full court press immediately. Stephen Miller even quote tweeted the video that shows he wasn't doing anything he wasn't obstructing anything he wasn't assaulting anyone and he still called him a domestic terrorist and that intended to massacre the agents

trying to impugn his masculinity somehow because he was a nurse you know like I've seen a lot of that too I mean I see so many but like what is it is he erratic terrorist or is he a you know

a live all the right wingers out there tweeting about this and talking about it and trying to you know denigrate him and all the things he showed

like hundreds time more courage than they would ever show have ever shown absolute bravery they're they're like

just like and look what he would was brave enough to do. And it's just like, it's pathetic and it's obvious what they're trying to do. They don't know how to talk about it. And I agree with you.

It's really, really gross to see them. Like, hey, he's like this, like, soy boy. What are you talking about? He, you would never, you would never, you wouldn't think. He's doing the thing that you talk about all the time. This like, oh, well, you know, that's why we, like, that's why we have our rights. That's why we have the Second Amendment.

all these sort of things that they talk about and the virtues that they stole and all these sort of things. But when somebody shows that, they call them a would be assassin and a fascinating. I mean, horrifying, but a fascinating moment in time, if you can take a breath and step back and watch the gymnastics that people are jumping through. To denigrate this man based on their own logic of, of being able to carry a gun. They're like, why would you bring a gun? Well, look what happened. What do you mean?

Why would you bring a gun to this environment when people are getting murdered in the streets? What do you mean? Aside from like all that, you guys take your guns to McDonald's. This is what I mean. To, like, bother people. To, like, make a point and buy.

author people. But you wouldn't bring it to a place where you thought that there's a chance that your life might be endangered. You would think that the natural logical conclusion is that you would bring the weapon with you if you're fearing for your safety. And that's a separate conversation, but by your own fucking logic. And by our laws, by our laws, he was doing everything legally. You know, it's cliche.

It's like it's pointless because they don't care by their logic. Of course. He's a hero to them, right? Like, by their logic, he's standing up to, to the federal government and all this sort of stuff that they fantasize about all the time. But as soon as it's this situation, tread on all of us. Please tread. Treads. Keep treading.

Right. It started with, like, the Second Amendment doesn't apply to people of color. You know, that's not, what are we talking about? Like, Philando Castile, what are you doing? And now it's like, now the Second Amendment doesn't apply to. anyone we disagree with, which should be a real eye-opener for people that, like, your identity won't protect you if you're on the wrong side. If you're on the side that they don't like, you're like the NRA is not going to come to your defense. It all comes back around. I'm really

fascinated with this, like, friction in the gun rights community this weekend because the one thing they have pushed back on is when, uh, the U.S. Attorney Bill Assaley, said like, well, you know, this is the kind of thing that happens or you should know what's going to happen when you bring a gun to a protest type thing. And of course, all of the gun rights groups have fought for a long time to promote that. Right. Yeah. They say that should be allowed. And so they're doing this balancing act where they don't want to defend Alex Preddy. In fact, the original NRA statement was being dragged by some of the same people that are usually. on their side. Like the NRA's statement begins with four months radical progressive politicians like Tim Walls have incited violence against law enforcement officers who are simply trying to do their jobs.

Unsurprisingly, these calls to dangerously interject oneself into legitimate law enforcement activities have ended in violence, tragically resulting in injuries and fatalities. And then they are like, let's wait for the investigation. Like, excuse me, NRA? Even Dana Losh popped in to be like, I don't know about this guy.

not that specific tweet, but she has popped out to make some of these points. I think is missing from this conversation. I mean, purposefully, on their end, the other on right wings, conservatives end.

Yeah, he had a gun with him, but that's not why he was being attacked. He had a gun holstered and, you know, but he was filming. He wasn't attacked because he was holding a gun at all. That doesn't play into this. No, that's the justification that they're using.

That's the justification. But I would doubt maybe one of them knew that he had a weapon on his person, maybe. But that was a gang of men attacking him while he was trying to help somebody on the ground. And they were beating him. And then they kicked, remove the guy. They had nothing to do with it. That is not why he was attacked. They want to claim that it is.

even because you know them out there being like it's all it's a you know you can't have a concealed carry without an ID on you they didn't ask for his ID they didn't there's no what you're talking about like yeah I know they like beat him out of a audio is hard to hear and it's unclear if he maybe once they start tackling him does the thing you're supposed to do where you're saying like I am carrying a concealed weapon or whatever so they know and like and then one because it does seem like that one agent knew where the gun was saw it like like like like that one agent knew where the gun was saw it like like like like like like went in targeted, removed it while the other guys were beating on him. And then reacted accordingly when for some reason they shot him. There was also Greg Bovino, who I can't believe they're sending around this weekend because he's terrible at this.

Yeah. He's a real lockjaw type. Yeah. He's this wormy little freak. He's locked jaw from one battle after another. He's got the haircut and the Nazi coat. And he's like, whoa, what Nazi coat? What are you talking about?

He was out there. I love my belt. Yeah. It's absurd. He was saying that there only wasn't a massacre because the agents, like, prevented it. And he's like, that's how well-trained these guys are. They saw what he was about to do. Oh, my God.

Minority Report style and, like, ended his life before he could do that. It's a legitimate thing he said on television. Like, get this guy out of it. The suspect also had two loaded magazines and no accessible ID. This looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement. All of this is just such a clown show. Nobody handling anything the way that they're supposed to. This is not the way a law enforcement professional handles or should handle a situation like this by a long shot.

This is another example of random thugs being placed into a job, into an incredibly heightened situation and handling it completely wrong on all regards. And having no accountability from their employers to behave any other way. And knowing that they can get away with whatever and also kind of joining up for this exact reason. I'm not going to say they're all glad that they shot this guy, but like they know what they're signing up for and the reaction to all of these events that keep happening from them is very telling. There's so many videos out there of just like ICE agents, the Border Patrol, being like, yeah, you can't film me.

We've got a database for you. We're going to shoot you. Like they're very, very threatening. They are itching to do this kind of thing. It's not illegal to record. Exactly. Yeah. That's what we're doing.

Yeah, why are you taking my information down? Because we have a nice little database. Oh, good. And now you're considered domestic terrorists. We're videotaping you? Are you crazy? They want to ratchet it up so that they can crack down even more and Trump can send in even more people and so on.

But I did want to circle back to just sort of, Jonathan, your point earlier about your identity won't save you. If you wear a MAGA hat, that'll save you a little bit of time, but ultimately it doesn't matter. As soon as something like this happens, you will be completely sacrificed by this administration and everybody involved, and they will just smear you and call you a terrorist, an assassin. It happened with Renee Good. Obviously, we talked about that, and it was a sign of what was to come, no matter what happened. The very first thing is going to happen is that J.D. Vance and Stephen Miller and Christine Noem are going to go out and they're going to say, this person was there so that they could kill ICE agents. They were there because they wanted to murder them and assassinate them. Stephen Miller used the word assassin. He was like, yeah, they were going to assassinate them. And then four days later, the president is going to actually see what happened and he's going to start to soften his language. It happened with Renee Good. As soon as he saw the video, he was like, oh, that doesn't look so. good. And then two days later, they were like, also her father is a big fan of yours and you're calling

her a terrorist. And he's like, oh, well, you know, it's a little rough. And in this case, they go out and they say, he's a terrorist. He was there to shoot these people because that's what, that's why you have a gun, right, is apparently the position. So they're very anti-second amendment now. But they go out there and then Trump does his little statement again. But when he's asked about it. He was asked about it either this morning or last night. And in this interview, he's asked a couple of times if he thinks that the shooting was justified and he doesn't answer. And he says they're going to review what happened because he knows, because he saw it, because he's not, he's not the same kind of liar that they are. The one thing about the phrase

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being like this 37-year-old white man was inherently a terrorist, but like, no, only only non-white people can just be like terrorists by blood, right? And so this man was brainwashed and radicalized by the mayor and the governor instead of the thing we all understand where you have like a conscience and a soul and you see humanity and other people. And it's like not even to make this, you know, the ICU nurse at a veteran. hospital, all this stuff. He doesn't need to be a saint, though. He was just there trying to do what so many people in Minneapolis are doing. Filming what they're doing, record what these people are doing, so there's a record, and then some woman just standing there got attacked, and he was trying to help. It's as simple as that. It's extremely simple, and framing, you know, even framing the filming as an active terrorism or illegal. So many videos of ICE agents claiming that. And also people out there being like, yeah, like, it's, it's, they're, like, just framing the filming of them like it is interrupting, like, law enforcement activity and that it is illegal and they shouldn't be doing it. And like, well, they have body cams, so it's fine.

Actually, many of them don't for a couple of reasons. Got to give them more money so they didn't have them. Yeah, exactly. But also, I don't think that the body cams for a situation like this would have actually been helpful. helpful. Because it's so chaotic. Yeah, like, I don't need to see the like of some guy like beating the shit out of somebody.

No, ideally you want someone standing about 15 feet away holding a phone, getting a good shot. To that point, I did get into a conversation with somebody up here recently about the filming and, you know, getting involved. And I said, well, do you understand that having the camera up is about literally documenting doing so that we understand.

Someone can shout out their name, where they're from, anything, so that there is a record because at this point people are getting lost in the system. That's the best, the nicest way you can phrase it is that people are getting swept up and there's no accountability. And this person is like, well, that I have no problem with. I have no problem with that. I'm like, so that's what's happening. You understand that they're getting targeted for filming.

And this person said, yeah, that's not okay. They should be allowed to film. So I only bring up that anecdote. to say that this isn't working. This is really fucking bad for the administration. People aren't okay with us. It looks differently online and whatever polling that feels so frustrating.

I do think that most Americans are appalled by what's happening. They might want better immigration control, but this is not it. Yeah, I mean, again, like I, I'll harp on this until they're no longer doing this and in power. But like, people see it. They're, they, again, Donald Trump sees it.

He watches the videos and he's reacting like a person who sees the videos. Most people aren't steeped into their disgusting little online blue check, like violent fantasy world. And they're just normal and they see stuff like this. and it looks really, really, really bad, and there's no way to make it look good. And when you have the administration going out there and being like, we're an assassin, that makes it look even worse

because that just shows how craven they are. And look, we've said this before. I remember saying this after Parkland and after George Floyd, in various things, you go, this one feels different type thing, and you hope there's never another one or that it doesn't take something like this

to feel different. But clearly people can see what they're, seeing and so that's why the Tim Pools aren't really trying to defend it although Tim Poole's doing other stuff that I would love to talk about at some point yeah but yeah like there's a lot of normal people in the same vein as the normal guy who went viral a week or two ago people being very eloquent given the circumstances that they're on the street in negative 20 degree weather and afraid for their lives potentially, you never know. And coming out and saying how bad this is, ICE is extremely unpopular.

It's like minus 27 or something. I just looked it up before the show. I think they're less popular than the IRS now, which is very unpopular. This can't continue, and that's why it's kind of leading to the softening of language. So instead of Pam Bondi over the weekend, trying to extort Tim Wall, saying, well, maybe we'll back down if you give us the voter rolls and let us do the election stealing. Wild, wild, wild. Now we're getting a bit of a different tone.

He's sending in Tom Homan to like be the regular guy. It's bizarre, but that is a signal that they are softening. They intended to do this. There's a purpose to what's been happening. And it's Stephen Miller's plan, and it's what they like. And Christy Nome, obviously, the cosplay. and the reality THS

secretary and but Tom Homan doesn't want to do that he just wants to go out and like be a piece of shit in a different way in a more covert way

and sending him in is a very it's a very weird sign that that is softening we'll see how that plays out I mean I hope hopefully

hopefully you're right what we also see our Senate Democrats committed to blocking the passage of the ICE spending bill, potentially creating a situation where the government gets shut down again. But, you know, there's, hopefully we continue this momentum and don't get spooked into compromising because now is the time. now is the time to use this energy to actually make some sort of slight dent in this? This is also clearly, and you know, they're going to be,

as we saw in the House, there are people who, you know, Democrats want to be tough on crime and tough on immigration. They want to be tough on all the stuff that they think they need to be tough on. But this is the issue. This is people, like you said, they're extremely,

unpopular to make this an actual issue that you're going to take a stand on would obviously it's the right thing to do. But it's also the right thing to do politically, morally in every sense. Like there's obviously the ethical and moral case of this is what you should be taking a stand about because they're shooting people in the streets. But it is politically an obvious win for. them as well. It's like the most minor, it's such a small part. It doesn't fix the problem. It is something and it would be a big win for Democrats and it would instill a lot of confidence in the voters

or at least would go a long way to making up the lack of trust in our elected leaders. This is the most egregious visible display. But the horrors continue outside of what we are seeing what's going on inside of these detention centers, something that is getting super lost at all this conversation. Like, obviously, we were watching the murder of civilians in broad daylight of Americans. But that's just, that's that. There's six migrants have died in detention this year. A Cuban immigrant in Texas was just ruled as a homicide, a death at a nice facility.

apparently this person was without bipolar was without their medication and was agitated and was screaming for help and then got murdered and these stories are coming out so when we talk about this yeah we need to deal with this fucking disaster but it's so much worse well yeah there's no video of the people dying in iced detention so when they put out a statement that the a person was, you know, quote, discovered unresponsive in their holding cell. That's all the information we ever get. And there's not the kind of investigation that people expect when they see something filmed on the street, which is, of course, much more in your face and jarring.

Yeah, there's a visceral spectacle going on that is horrible. But at the same time, there's just, I mean, even, you know, all the detainees missing from the database. We're at Alligator Alcatraz and all these places because they know they can more easily get away with disappearing or ignoring or not caring about these people. I basically am saying yes, be outraged by these murders, but there's so much more and it takes a lot of diligence to keep trying to find that information. It takes a lot of diligence to keep reminding yourself just because you haven't heard a story doesn't mean that these atrocities

aren't happening every day to people that aren't white, you know? Yeah, they don't have to be would-be assassins to, you know. The language that they use, it's very boilerplate, even though every situation's got to be a little bit different, right?

At the end of October, they shot a man who survived, but they shot a guy named Carlos Jimenez who saw, ice pulling someone over, accosting someone, he pulled over to shout something at them. The ice guys said you need to leave. And here's what it says. Federal officials said that Jimenez did not initially comply with commands to leave the scene and that after he pulled forward, he backed up and accelerated toward the officers in the other vehicle. That's when one of the officers fired their

weapons striking Jimenez in the shoulder. Oh, really? So he was there yelling at you and then decided to back up and drive right at you. Interesting. How that's seems to happen so much but never gets caught on. Similar story. Interesting. The other stuff gets caught on video. That's the thing.

20 minutes after anything like this happens, it's just like, well, whatever the DHS says, it's the opposite. The opposite happened. They have their plan and they do it. And then again, like three days later, the president's like, I saw it. It looks pretty bad, actually.

Well, he's like, I don't know. We're going to look into it. We're going to look at this from all the angles. Oh, luckily there's seven. So. A couple of. other things. Well, first I saw a video of a woman either yesterday or today who was shot with a rubber bullet and it took off part of her hand. So that happened. I also wanted to-

somebody chomped down with their teeth and took off part of an ice agent's hand. Oh, yeah. But I'm just highlighting that is another thing that I saw before we started recording. but I want to just address this other line of reasoning that he was resisting arrest because he wasn't. He wasn't under arrest. He was helping someone and then he got attacked. And he was sprayed in the face with pepper spray and surrounded by people beating him from all sides.

I don't know how to reach get through to people that if you're being attacked, you're trying to get some space. You're trying to get your eyes to see. You're trying to get clarity in the moment. You have adrenaline and you're panicking. He wasn't resisting arrest. He was being attacked. He wasn't under arrest.

It's just making my head spinning around. I want to, like, it's going to fall my body soon because I'm so fucking mad. Because also they're not cops. And they're not cops. Anyway, I just needed to say that. It's bothering me so much. Yes, correct. Also, and people might disagree out there.

If you are resisting arrest, that doesn't mean you should be executed in the street. And then there's that. I like I just I just keep like all these reasons everybody's like well this this this he got executed they're they judge jury execution I like what are you talking about you can't be doing that apparently you can be but the good news good news the good news is that there isn't a cohesive strategy so they're just like oh let's stop doing this it's making me unpopular, let's get out of here. Miller's against that, but no one else is. Like, everyone

else in the White House is like, can we stop doing this stuff that makes everyone hate us quite so much? And so if one wonders what the strategy might be if the goal was like consolidate authoritarian power, like this isn't

the way to do it to act as if you've already had the authoritarian power for a decade, right? Like, you're trying to consolidate it. You need to some people on board and now everyone's got phones out and are filming things that just look like they're from a Nazi movie like where people are just shot in the street. It's definitely a strategy.

I don't know if it's going to, you know, and there's the world where, right, like it keeps ratcheting up and ratcheting up and then they just are sending in more and more people. And but I don't think, again, like you're saying, like, I think only Stephen Miller wants that. some other people too but so much of the administration is like kind of cosplaying and messing around we talked about that FBI

piece about Cash Patel like he's just he just wants to party he wants to be like a guy who's posting and the true believers are at the moment getting some of what they want but we'll see I don't know

I can't imagine you know Vance is on board with a lot of this stuff too He's been cooked in his little brain by the internet and his bubble for a long time. And I think that he's getting to that point. But I imagine sometimes he's like, I got to go, I got to go figure out a lie for this. I got to go, I got to be the sin eater again. I'm tired of being the sin eater all the time. He doesn't seem tired of it to me.

He doesn't. He's doing it. But I wonder if there's like a point where he's like, I'm so full. I got so many sins in here. Is Donald Trump the most reasonable one in his administration? Sometimes. It's because of this. What's the word?

Alzheimer's. I don't have that. The thing that you don't have. What a clip. Well, we can save that for our live stream. We'll talk about it later. Hey, guys, we're doing a live stream Tuesday night. Oh, gosh.

On our channel. Might as well declare that. Yeah, the night of the day that this comes out. Oh, yeah. So later today, after you see this, tune in at 6 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. That's what we decided. That's what we decided. I guess so, yeah.

Literally, I hope nothing else. Please let nothing else happen between now and then so we can just enjoy ourselves and talk about fun stuff. We can talk about fun. We can talk about the news. Please let no news happen in the next. Yeah. We're going to try to have a little fun. Yeah.

But yeah, just teasing that, we're going to see how it goes. I think it'll be fun. I think it'll be great. I think it'll be depressed. I think I might have tech issues. I think you'll like it. I think there'll be music. I think there'll be clips.

I think pets will make appearances. I think Warmbo makes an appearance. We all hope. We all hope. Where's that guy been? I know. He ran away and then he came back, but it seems like he still run away.

Still on the payroll, too. Cody's having a little trouble. coming to terms with Warmba's independence. He... Look, it takes a well. He's flexing, he's spreading his wings. He's, yeah, you know, experiencing independence for the first time in his life.

He'll come around. He'll start calling on weekends again. Okay. Don't worry, Dad. I'm worried. I know. He's your boy. I'm not trying to, like, you know, keep him in a cage or whatever.

I'm just worried and he could check in more. I mean, there is an argument to keeping him in a cage. I know. He's very, like, I'm worried about his safety, but also the universe is safety. So it's... Just a text once in a while. At the third way, third way conference, almonds are great. That's it. That would be it. Warmbal, baby, if you're listening, just check in every so often. But we'll see him tomorrow night. Okay. Thank you guys for going on this journey. Not you, our listeners and viewers. dark weekend. It's always this silver lining is that we've got a community of people

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