Some More News - Even More News: Trump Doesn’t Know Who He Pardon

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

Hi. On today's episode, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan discuss Trump's wild “60 Minutes” interview where he admits to not knowing who he pardons. They also discuss how the administration will start funding some SNAP benefits again, Joe Rogan’s AI music fandom, and more.As always, we recorded right before that big thing that happened.PATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Oh, I got one too. It's Cody Johnston. Let's dance. Let's dance with Jonathan, who is also here. Hi. I just wanted to shout out real quick, an adorable family that went as the Some More News team for Halloween.

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incredible they saved it they were waiting it's like are you ready you ready for the photo okay now now's the time now's the time other things happened over the weekend besides Halloween and guess what we're here to discuss it president president Trump went on 60 minutes the show he sued and got money from for editing a show. He went on and he had an interview with Nora O'Donnell. Many highlights here. The one I want to start with that I find just so incredibly fascinating is about him and who he pardons and why. I'll let Nora O'Donnell set it up. He pled guilty in 2023 to violating anti-money laundering laws. The government at the time said that CZ had caused significant harm to U.S. national security, essentially by allowing terrorist groups like Hamas to move millions of

dollars around. Why did you pardon him? Okay, are you ready? I don't know who he is. I know he got a four-month sentence or something like that, and I heard it was a Biden witch hunt. In 2025, his crypto exchange, Binance, helped facilitate a $2 billion purchase of World Liberty Financial's staple coin. And then you pardoned CZ. How do you address? the appearance of pay for play. Well, here's the thing. I know nothing about it because I'm too busy doing the other. But he got a part?

But he got a part? No, I can only tell you this. My sons are into it. I'm glad they are because it's probably a great industry crypto. I think it's good. You know, they're running a business. They're not in government. Who amongst us hasn't pardoned a criminal

because our sons are into it? He's just a good dad, y'all. My sweet boys. My sweet boys love it. My sweet boys. This is my last chance to have a relationship. With my adult children, don't you understand? Just the whole thing, every step of the way, he just like, it just says in so many different ways about so many different things.

I don't know. All right. Brace yourself. I don't know about so many things. He makes it clear. He doesn't know what crypto is or like Bitcoin or what his sons are doing or why. He does, though, but he does, right? I mean, we have to hope or assume a little bit, but the way he phrased it, he knows it makes him much.

He doesn't know what it is. Yeah, he's like, I assume it's a good thing, right? It makes him money. Of course it's a good thing. How could he be a criminal? It made me money. He just clearly has not been informed that for months now, he's brought it up here and there, but four months now, Republican politicians and pundits have been all in on Biden was so out of it. He didn't know what pardons he was signing, what executive orders he was signing.

They had an auto pen to it, and we should throw that all out. And now on national television, he's like, well, I don't know, my fail sons, tell me who to pardon with my presidential pardon power. I don't buy that, though. I don't buy it because he himself has pushed the auto pen. He, you know, I've, maybe he doesn't know the extent to which that conversation has gone on. But he's talked about the auto pen. I just think it doesn't matter in his goddamn rotten brain. But I think he thinks since I signed it, like they put a bunch of paper.

in front of me and I signed it. So it's not a scandal. But the line that all of these other guys have is like, well, he was so out of it. He doesn't know anything. Like, I believe that Trump doesn't know who this guy is. Yeah. He views it as, well, there's a tangible thing about this scandal, the auto pen. Because there's a, like, a physical thing or something I can point to, that's the scandal.

And I'm going to say auto pen over and over and over again. it's not like you know Biden dropped out Trump should drop out of like life in public office he's like losing it but to him it's like well there's not a thing I can point to there's not a phrase there's not like oh the act of this signing is the scandal part and so he's viewing anything else like yeah of course I don't really know what's going on that's like why I'm the president I don't have to I can just like it's auto pilot is fine the auto pen is the problem, it seems. Also, I don't buy it that he doesn't know.

At the end of the day, I don't know who he is. Are you ready for this? I don't know him. I don't buy it. I don't. I actually, you do? See, I just, that's the thing is it. I think that he can, I think left and right, you're seeing, you know,

Mike Johnson, Donald Trump, everybody gets up in front of camera and says, I don't know anything about it. I don't know anything about it. What do you know about? You know, stuff about other stuff, but I think that this is, I mean, the Mike Johnson thing is a phenomenon unique to everybody around Trump, right? If Trump does a thing that's bad or he says something that's bad or anything, they can say, well, I haven't seen that. I don't go on Twitter all day. All right.

That's, that's president's stuff. I don't go on Twitter all day. I can ignore that. But Trump himself can function as the bad president and be incurious and not be super plugged in. and if his sons are like, you've got to pardon this guy because there's money involved. He'll say, okay, and he's not going to look into who that guy is or he's just said so many times already.

They're like, I don't know, finance, what, coin something? Like, I just think he doesn't care. It's not a hill I'm going to die on. But either option, either explanation is absurd and ridiculous from the president of the United States. He's a silly guy. I could see your point of view. I can also, I don't know.

It's, but it is all the time. I don't know. I don't know anything about it. I don't know. You should ask my Aegee. You should ask so-and-so. What do you know then if you don't know anything? Another thing, very important to note about this, which we already did a little bit, note it.

It is this interview was very, very heavily edited. And we know that because there's a transcript that does not match what aired. and maybe I'm losing my mind or something, but didn't he sue CBS specifically for an overly, an edited interview of Kamala Harris? I don't know anything about that. You don't know anything about that. You haven't seen the interview?

I haven't seen it. I feel like he might. Ow, I just hit my tooth with my glass straw. Oh, no. They don't talk about that with the straw situation. They don't talk about the dangers. I think he might sue CBS again. See, they edited Kamala Harris

Because they edited it to make her look better And if he looks bad in this Oh, they cut out all the best stuff So they edited it to make me look bad So they cut out a lot of bad stuff They cut out bad stuff Of course, but he doesn't care It's not like just because Barry Weiss

Runs the place now And he's like, I hear I don't know her I hear she's great, I hear she's a great person I think he might still sue them Do you want to watch him talking about Mom Donnie? Zohan Mandami, 34-year-old Democratic Socialist. He's the front of him. Communist, not socialist, communist.

He's far worse than a socialist. Some people have compared him to a left-wing version of you, charismatic, breaking the old rules. What do you think about that? Well, I think I'm a much better looking person than him, right? She pronounced his name wrong. She said Zorhan. That's not that he pronounced his name, but whatever.

You're just on the news. He, it's so funny to know that all you have to do about a guy to ask to ask the president something. It's like people actually compare him to you

because of your amazing qualities what do you have to say about him and he has to be like well you know I'm more handsome and stuff

but we should move on because he knows like I gotta attack this guy but he just complimented me actually he just made me think that maybe

he's got something to him also just he's not a communist Trump no he's not not a Trump I'm surprised he didn't say Sharia law in that in that section.

I'm surprised. Didn't he also endorse Cuomo in this? He said he said if it has to be between like a bad Democrat and a communist to choose the bad Democrat. Hopefully that works against him because who wants to what Democratic voter wants to do what the president says. Is is Trump being cheeky where he's like, well, I'm better looking than this young. probably charismatic 34 year old right yeah he's he's doing uh it's that um it's that

little glimmer of like oh in a different context you'd be like a charming guy you'd know what to say you'd be like i'm actually much more handsome than him knowing full well like no this is the young good looking guy and you're mr blob man like what are you talking about you've never been more handsome at any point in your life but i this thing is so funny it's like yeah we gotta camp over the communist he's worse than a socialist like Many people say he's charismatic and bucking trends like you, sir. He's like, well, there's much to consider, actually.

He might be a trend bucker. Election is tomorrow. Election is today when you see this. Yeah. A few minutes. I can't imagine that anybody watching this in New York will have not voted or wasn't planning to vote, but if so, here's one little extra bit of encouragement to go ahead and do so.

Hakeem Jeffries over the weekend when asked by a reporter said that Mamdani was not the future of the Democrat Party and I think this is our opportunity to prove them wrong. Do you see Mom Dani is the future

of the Democratic Party? No, I think the future of the Democratic Party is going to fall as far as we're concerned relative to the House Democratic caucus and members who are doing a great work all across the country as it relates to our need to both take back control

of the house but in doing so make sure that we're communicating to the american people like we understand you deserve better just endorse stand behind the the overwhelmingly popular young populist that is gaining traction that has captured the imagination in the hearts of the minds of this country No, he's not the future of the Democrat Party. Well, he's scary. I mean, you know, maybe the future of the Democratic Party can be many things. It can be many things. It's one of those things.

It's like, okay, I get it because you're like, oh, he's like, the far lefty. We don't want to do this. We don't do anything. We don't want to take a stand. Maybe the future of the Democratic Party can be simply accepting that there is a wing of the Democratic Party that is that. That's right, Cody. within the Democratic Party. They're always

this talk of like, big tent, big tent, big ten. Okay, but like, ideologically, like, you can have a left wing of this party and not denigrate it constantly and dismiss them constantly and try to kick them out constantly. He's the mayor. It is a signal that there is an aspect

of the Democratic Party that does lean that way and they should be accepted instead of rejected. Even if you're not saying, well, actually, we're going to do all we're going to do all mom donnie things now just accept them does it need to be the future of the democratic party in terms of who's our presidential candidate because he can't run for president

which is actually a very beautiful thing that means that this is the person that is going to try to be mayor of this city and that is awesome and it's not consider all the president's stone but but to your point yes the future of the democratic party should be embracing and respect expecting the significant part of your coalition that is just about fed up and we're only voting for them because they're not Donald Trump. We need more than that. And this country needs more than that. We need this so that hopefully the Democrats can start to understand where their power actually lies. Yeah.

It shows a weakness of, I think, leadership and coalition building in Jeffrey's debt. He had to be so emphatically, no, he's not the future of the Democratic Party. Simply say he is part of the future of the Democratic Party. Exactly. He clearly is. Exactly. So if you're going to reject reality, then you're just going to come off as out of touch and not fit for leadership of the Democratic Party. Which is shocking from Hakeem Jeffries to come off as out of touch.

I know. It's true. Like, Hakeem Jeffrey's brand of bland aloofness might be the future of the Democratic Party. I hope not, but he might be right. He might be. Yeah, exactly. Speaking of Zorhan, Zorhan Mamdami, as Cuomo might say, brief quote from fan favorite Bill Marr about mom Donnie.

I think it's so interesting how his mind works about Mamdani, because obviously he's too far left and he's like a creepy, like, wild socialist and so on. We can't have that. Quote, he definitely has the power and influence. to elect J.D. Vance or whoever is the Republican candidate next time. It is a walking commercial for the Republican Party nationally. Trump's the president. He already won. He already won. What are you talking about? Trump is the president. J.D. Vance is the vice president. You can't make them be more the president. Well, now that mom donnie's mayor, now they're going to elect somebody

crazy like Donald Trump. What are you talking about? It already happened, Bill. Get with the program. And in the new CNN poll Donald Trump has more disapproval higher disapproval than he did after January 6th. What? Yeah, new CNN poll has a 37% approval,

63% disapproval highest of either term at any point like That's hot and spicy Oh gosh Run for a third term, I guess But no one likes

Your shit speaks very poorly about her 37% of people do by which I know one I mean it's gonna get to that 32%

it's that cult number he definitely has a a floor and it's in the 30s I don't think he would ever get to Bush to 2008 numbers I mean we'll see

when this bubble this AI bubble I was gonna say there's a lot of stuff it's one of those things where like it's bursting you hope it does not

happen for people's livelihoods but that's the kind of thing That's the kind of thing that gives you those numbers. Right. It's already, I mean, he's already, if he's already so disapproved of purely on character following through and the tariffs, obviously, and the ice raids and sending the National Guard, all the lawlessness, all the things we could say. And he's out there being like, actually grocery prices are, they're low now, they're lowering, the prices are going down. The prices are going down. She's like, no, they're not.

I say, no, they're not. The prices are down. So, like, if he's that low in all of that, then just like the economy just needs to get, shouldn't get. But it would have to get slightly worse for it to be terrible for him. I love seeing when MAGA people

reply to his grocery prices are down, truth socials. And they go, sir, I don't know who's giving you this information, but it's not true. you're you are omniscient you know everything you're like a god but people are telling you lies about the grocery prices and i guess you're believing them in this one instance you're wrong uh in everything else uh you can do no wrong but please uh sir like we're struggling grocery prices are up gas prices are up everything's up you said you would do it on day one i still love you i still love you

i still love you i still love you it's embarrassing is that tough business of the government taking away people's stuff? Is that a thing? Yeah, it is, apparently a thing. Well, the administration in court filings on Monday morning, the Trump administration is agreeing to fund some SNAT benefits during the shutdown. They say they are going to tap one contingency fund, but they're not going to follow what district court judge Jack McConnell said,

which was that they should use money from the child, nutrition programs and dip into the tariff revenue to pay out SNAP benefits. And so it's definitely good. I thought that revenue is supposed to come back to us. Well, what's unclear, because this news just came out, it's unclear to me because there were two judges last week that said, you got to release the SNAP thing. And this one, the one in Rhode Island, Jack McConnell, at first was like, you got to do it immediately and it's got to be all of the benefits. And then they said, well, it's tough because there's the tubes where we send the money. and so they said, okay, you have until Monday to give me an answer on this. But he did say the full funds. So it's unclear to me right now if the Trump administration is still in open violation of this order or if they'll have to give some other response on Wednesday, which is like the next day of these deadlines. Like the judges are like, okay, okay, you can't do stuff immediately. Let's give you these deadlines. People got to eat. So it's definitely good that people are going to get some of their benefits. But this is one in eight, this is 42 million people.

It's significantly impacting so many communities, especially, I mean, everywhere, but rural communities, red state communities, my community that I live in. I said this last week. Everyone is organizing right now and doing food drives to try to mitigate the damage from this. I am confused. Yes, like you laid out, there were two rulings happening really in short, a little bit of, almost consecutively. And there's this five and a quarter billion contingency fund. But then there's this other one that has about $23 billion. And I believe that's earmarked under agriculture or something.

Do you have any idea which fund that they're pulling partial benefits out of? One of these funds has enough money to cover it for sure. It's about $6 to $8 billion a month to do these benefits. I think they are agreeing to pull from that original contingency. fund that everyone's been saying to do so. But since it hasn't been fully funded for a while and they want to take it away and the big beautiful bill strips a bunch of it away, the judge was like, hey, here's a bunch of other sources of money.

Also, to quote Trump a decade ago, you can't rent out of money. We print the money. So I hate to tell you, which is what he said back then. All a game. It's all a fucking game with people's actual lives. Why wouldn't he want to fund this be the hero? why wouldn't he democrats get a win democrats get a win uh and they they're also proven correct yes that they don't need to uh reopen the government in order for these benefits to be paid out

um starve the base to own the libs right the whole thing for like two weeks has been like well it's there it's democrat's fault that you're not going to snap like there's nothing we can do about it and there are literally people on like CNN and then they're saying like no that's not the situation they have this emergency fund they could fund it right now they should be that's what it's for. And if they do it, then Democrats are right. Their argument was it's actually not legal for us to release these funds. So we'd love to, but the president doesn't want to break the law by doing it. And then the judges say, not only is it not illegal, you must do it legally. And then they have to huddle and be like, do we want to appeal the ruling and say, actually it is

illegal for us to feed American citizens? Usually Republicans are used to kind of like putting the screws on Democrats where it's a lose-lose. And this one feels like a lose-lose for them if they see it as a loss to give Democrats a win to feed people. Like that's how brutally awful they are. Short, very simple government lesson, Congress made the loss and they know what it is and what the money's for because they're in charge of deciding what the money's for historically, maybe not so much recently and then the president and his executive branch will execute on those laws and then the judge will interpret the laws and that's what happened here and the interpretation was no you're executing the law incorrectly so you got to do that you got to go do that and we'll see we'll see

what we'll see what happens we'll see if civics we'll see if civics holds okay so scott Adams is the Dilbert cartoonist Far right guy. Dilbert's Dad. I have to get the timeline right on this because there's a bunch of tweets. But essentially he was saying that he has metastasized prostate cancer, was having trouble getting the treatment that he wanted from Kaiser of Northern California and started asking powerful people in the administration

for help. Because that's how American health care works now, as you just tweet the president. Or no, a guy who knows the president. And so Don Jr., I think, pretty quickly said, like, I'm on it. We're going to get to this. But a whole bunch of them. We're like, we're going to get this in front of... RFK, Hopton.

Yeah, RFK. To be like, what a great guy Trump is, he'll get you individually health care if you reach out to him. But it's not certainly systemic. If you're famous right-wing figure. There you go. And successful cartoonist, perhaps one of the most successful in American history. Okay, don't go too far. I mean, in terms of the popularity of Dilbert, the comics, sure, sure, sure.

You got Garfield, you got Dilbert, you got Peanuts. Like, it's, you know, I'm not saying. He didn't write, did he write Garfield and peanuts? I'm joking. I'm sorry. But, you know, like, if you're not guy, if you got a pool shape like Dilbert's head, then you can tweet at Chamath. RFK and then they'll connect you with the president.

I want people to get the health care that they need. I'm not saying it's been pleasant to deal with Kaiser of Northern California. That said, what are we talking about here? You can just, if you're his buddy, you can go on Twitter and tweet and get life-saving intervention. But the rest of us, what happens next? Are we all just going to tweet at the president, what we need, our medications like this? This is how we tweet. That's how it used to work.

And now we got it. We got, if you know the king. In the future, all of our hands will fuse back into penguin flippers. And that's what we'll just. Yeah, and we'll just. Speaking of Chamoth, I have to bring this up real quick. Do you have to? I do have to, actually.

Okay. Yeah, I have to bring up. I have to mention something about Chamath real quick. So, Chimoth, he hopped in and he's like, hey, Scott Adams, famous cartoonist, in reply to RFK Jr. Hey, RFK Jr., I've connected Scott with Trump, and we got it. So there's

this position he has. He was also recently he recently had, I believe, was it Boudidijedge was on the All In podcast? He was on the all-in podcast, and apparently he was such a dick. Bada Judge was? No. Oh, Chamath. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you know. I didn't catch it.

That's the all-in. I saw one clip, I saw a couple of cups. And one of them, he's talking about immigration and like anti-immigrant sentiment and racism in America and stuff. And I find this so fascinating because he's saying that like, well, you know, after 9-11, I, you know, I was more, I was more worried about my safety after 9-11 in the political climate than, then I am now, right? Okay. And so after 9-11, you were, like, in your early 20s and not, like, a billionaire. So, like, it's just, like, one of the things, like, I, like, the day before he's tweeting at RFK and the president to, like, get some famous guy healthcare, he's like, I'm just not worried about my,

safety these days. I was back I wonder why. Before like all of my incredible success and fortune and I don't know why that is. I don't know. That's so interesting that I feel so much more safe now that I'm a billionaire as opposed to

right after 9-11 when I wasn't. I mean also right after 9-11, sure that's... Yeah, right for 9-11 was bad. Maybe it's bad that now during a mayoral campaign we have all these people being like they're going to do 9-11 at us again because the mayor is going to be Muslim.

Maybe like that's like maybe that's part of the bad part of you would think I'm like like obviously yeah very bad to be brown after 9-11 but you would think that would give you empathy for people having fear in this moment of time instead you just say no it's not nearly as bad now because I'm a billionaire. Duh. Here is Elon Musk on the Joe Rogan experience. No, it looks amazing. The music's disturbing because it's my favorite

music now. Like AI music is your favorite. Oh, there's AI covers. Have you ever heard any of the AI covers of 50 cent songs in Seoul? No. I'm going to blow your mind. Okay. This is my favorite thing to do to people. Play what-up gangsta. Now, this guy, if this is a real person, would be the number one music artist in the world. Everybody would be like, Holy shit, have you heard of this guy? It's like, they took all of the sounds

that all the artists have generated and created the most soulful, potent voice, and it's sung in a way that I don't even know if you could do because you would have to breathe in and out of reps. Here, put the headphones on, put the headphones on real quick. You gotta listen to this. It's gonna blow you away. It's the listeners, we gotta cut it out.

Yeah, we'll cut it out for the listeners, but... Amazing, right? Amazing. And they do like every one of his hits all through this AI-generated soulful artist. artist. It's fucking incredible. I played in the green room. It's just people that are like, I don't want to hear AI music. I'm like, just listen

this. And they're like, God damn it. It's fucking incredible. I mean, I only going to get better from here. Hey, hey, play What Up Gangsta. Pretty cool, right? Him saying what up gangsta made me cringe inside. Like, ugh. I think this is so funny.

I love that they're talking about AI and like Joe Rogan brings this up and he loves AI music. and even Elon's like, you love AI music? You do? Like, all right, let's talk about it. All right, I'm, I'm here to sell my, my bullshit,

so I will talk about how AI music's good. This is a grift. You know this is a grift, right? Okay, you've wanted to do that. Okay, you're going to be the guy who pretends to love AI music. Oh, no, you really do love AI. Okay, all right, let's talk about AI music. Have you guys heard some of it yet?

I've heard, like, little covers and things. I'm sure they're, like, good quality. but I mean we've talked about AI so much in AI art and how it's fake and not art and I mean even him describing it is like so you took all the artists and what they've generated right and put them together so you took all the artists like the artist like the soulful people with souls who make art and you like jammed them together to make this like the most soulful actually if you combine all the voices it make that's how art math works actually you take all of them you jammed it together and then you also uh he doesn't have to breathe like it's inhuman it's inhuman how he like they don't even have to breathe this thing yeah it's in and yet it's so soulful but that's what's so interesting is to say like it's the most soulful the thing that has literally no soul it is impressive or shocking or terrifying is another word to see uh what can be done um but singing its praises with no concept or acknowledgement of why those things that you just said, those things

that he listed are bad, actually. It's bad. You're stealing other people's intellectual property and making, and, you know, it's, the implications are terrifying. But yeah, he's really all in on this. He's talked about it a lot lately with many different guests, apparently. That's really funny. Because also, like, he's like, you know, if this artist, like, he's doing a sole version of 50s, sense songs. You can find that. Humans do that too. Um, and just like, oh, you know, if this guy was real, I also, I love that he's talking about him like a guy. If this guy was real. It's not a guy. Stop saying if this guy was real. He'd be so, he'd like the most famous guy in the world right now. That's not how music works anymore, actually. Sorry. Like, what are you talking about? Have you, like,

been interested in a real artist in the past several years? Like, you, you can find people doing covers that are amazing of all kinds of songs. This isn't really novel. The novelty is the fact that AI generated it. It's not like, oh my God, this brand new thing. Soul cover of 50 cent? And if it gets to a point where that's popular and that's all there is, like sooner or later, you're going to run out of other people's art to steal because there's going to be no art. You need artists to keep doing art so that it has something to steal and replicate. Exactly. it's very bizarre watching this obviously other things we've said

the funny it's just very funny to me still where he's like I love AI music wait are you serious like I'm I'm horrible but I think it's shit I really like this this kind of like indie electronic

artist grimes have you heard of her like she's actually like really good I mean well recently she's been kind of mean to me so I don't really like her call me if she hears that I really into mostly her early work But, you know, she's one of my many mothers. Have you heard?

I have many mothers. Anyway, I love, like, aside from all that stuff, Joe Rogan, what a fascinating specimen, because he's saying all this stuff. And it's like, Joe, you are, I'm going to be generous here. You're an artist, aren't you? Like, don't you view yourself as that? Don't you view yourself as, like, a creator? We're the truth tellers.

We're, like, the last stand. We're, like, comedy is like, there's, like, only 50 of, of us that are like amazing. So you're an artist. So you know the value of like human beings making art. And you're sitting here like, eventually all music's going to be AI art. And there's all they talk about is what it's going to be. They talk about, oh, yeah, here's the state of AI art.

Here's the state of AI music. I listen to it all the time. Here's what AI art is going to do and going to be and going to do to everybody. And there's not a single moment where Joe's like, like good like they don't ever they don't ever get to the point of saying like and it's actually bad that that's going to happen like that it's bad that it's doing that to art it's bad that like i'm obsessed with AI art this bullshit it's bad that they're going to be these devices that only that generate constant video for us to consume to be fair i don't know i haven't listened to this

episode there might be more conversation that goes along with this but i doubt it i i choose to not be fair i i i will i'm just saying somebody It might be, but he's very ideologically and consistent in all over the place. He might say, well, no, he might say like, oh, yeah, it's crazy what's happened. It's a shame. Everyone's losing their jobs. AI's going to fuck us all up. But man, I fucking love this music.

He might waffle around it like that, but ultimately is ignoring the point that you said, totally. That's the secret sauce of this show. Like on the rest of that 60 Minutes interview, Trump seemed really smart, made a lot of sense. Elon and Joe, the rest of that six hours are. however long it is they were like really get into it intellectually yeah yeah that's what hey no you haven't seen the content mill and so we take everything out of context yeah it's very embarrassing for them and there's this other clip just the AI of it all the pushing it and not questioning it is very weird because again Joe you're an artist there's other moment where

they talk about the future of phones and AI and Elon's like oh yeah well you know pretty soon in a couple years. We want to have phones. We'll have other devices and there will be no apps or websites. It'll just be an AI interacting with another AI on a server and like it'll just be sort of AI's communicating with each other. And then Joe's like, okay, so they're not going to be any apps. So like, how are we going to email each other and are we like, is X still going to exist? And Elon's just like, yeah, we're going to, you know, there'll be no more apps. And that'll be that. And then like, so he kind of answers it. And then Joe's like, but what's, the benefit of that and Elon's answer to what is the benefit of that is well you know it's just

like it's your device will just be able to generate any sort of content you want to see it will always be recommending things that you that you don't know you want to see and it'll be generating the content for you okay but what's the benefit of that what's the benefit of that what's the benefit of your predicted future that we're all going to have these devices and it's just going to generate whatever you want to see all the time what's the benefit of that jobs you two dimwits

like some people have shit to do you're trying to sell to us it well you can just anything you want to see it'll just generate it for you it'll tell you what you want to see but what's the benefit of that what's the benefit of a device that tells me what I want to see and generates anything I want to see at any moment tech companies get to make more money

that's the benefit you could watch this podcast and it'll be like like I'll be Batman and Cody will be Luke Skywalker and Katie will be who do you want to be Katie Who do you want to be? Chewbacca Chubaca

Right so it'll be Batman chatting with Skywalker and Chewbacca talking about the news You might want that Maybe It's just like I'm watching this clip from me Actually I kind of want to be Joe March Can I go in a different direction entirely

From little women That is a really different direction from Chewbac Yeah yeah Yeah, yeah, but I just wanted to mix it up. Not to Star Wars characters. And why would Skywalker and Chewy, I don't know. Oh, I'll be Chewy dressed as Batman. That'd be great.

We'll wrap this up. They're just having these conversations and every moment I'm like, Joe, he's telling you to your face that your whole career is going away. He's telling you, well, actually, in like, two to five years, we'll have devices that you can just say, I want to listen to a Joe Rogan episode where Joe Rogan interview. use Albert Einstein and they'll do that and then that'll exist and you don't have a thing to do anymore. You're going to be in your mansion listening to AI music because it's your favorite thing now. Did Jay Robert Oppenheimer really walk by you like that? Did you like remember that walking by sequence? Oh yes. It was very. Pull that up. Jamie. Jamie pull up. Jamie pull up. Jamie pull up Oppenheimer.

Jamie, pull up Oppenheimer, but like Muppets doing Oppenheimer. Sorry. We like to end the show with Elon News so that these two boys

can make each other laugh with their Elon voices. But unfortunately, we have to get this off to our editor to edit. So we're wrapping it up. We're wrapping it up. Rogan.

And we love you very much. Much.