Some More News - Even More News: Trump Loses It Over Being Interviewed By The Person Interviewing Him

Episode Date: June 9, 2026

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Hi, on today's show, we talk about Barry Wise, still being very, very bad at her job, how Angelinos won't have to deal with Spencer Pratt for the next five months, and some updates on the war in month four. Hi, hello, and welcome back to even more news, the first, the only news podcast. My name is Katie Eastall. Katie Stoll. I don't know the rest of the song. I'm sorry.

I forgot to practice over the weekend. Katie Stoll. Hi, I'm Cody Johnston. Hi, Cody Johnston. Well done. Well, sung. Thanks. We're doing great.

Jonathan is also here. Hi. Don't worry, folks. Jonathan, what is going on with the news? The news. We're following up today on a few stories. that we already talked about last week. We're going to talk more about 60 minutes first

because Scott Pelley went and blabbed to the New York Times about what went down at the end there or what went down after Barry Weiss took over and started telling them to do stuff. So we're probably not going to be able to include this whole clip, but I want to play some of his interview with the Times about what happened. Barry Weiss sends an email to my boss

Tanya Simon. Two of the things in the email include, can we make the protesters look more violent? Now, I'm paraphrasing. I don't have the quote, but that's what was communicated to me. And the other thing was Renee Good's car.

You need to describe her as driving toward the officer. This is not what you see on the video. On the video, you see the officers standing slightly off the front of the car, and you clearly see Ms. Good's wheels turned completely as far as they will go, away from the officer. Before we really dig into it, great job on wheels. Yeah.

Wheels. Excellent. Wheels. Excellent. Excellent. Excellent appeals. You can get the sense that Pelly was being very soft-spoken there because they really had to crank up the volume to get him.

But it ends it. It lends to it an air of gravitas. Yes, as does his speaking pace. Is that maybe part of why he was on television for so long? Oh, that he's good at it. He's good at it. But for a lot of people, it doesn't matter what he's saying in this interview. Right. But I do think none of us thought it would be that overt, right? Barry Weiss taking over 60 minutes. She's not just going to tell them to give the Trump narrative on everything. But it turns out that is what she did. We thought it was possible, but it's more of a jokey thing. Like it couldn't possibly be that bad, that overt. But it is. And it was and continues to be.

Sort of like those nut, like you think, oh, little nudges here and there or like make sure to include like both sides stuff, not explicitly like, no, make them look scary. It's very, I mean, it's one, it's not one to one. It's very, very close to just Musk's Twitter takeover. Clearly just, well, what do you see with your eyes? What is actually going on? What are the facts? And then this other voice that owns the place just being like, actually. You know how you all hate protesters and you fear them and you think that riot constantly?

We need to present that. We need to present what we know our audience is, what they want to see. But the CBS 60 Minutes audience isn't that. So it doesn't work as well. It creates these conflicts. I mean, it does work because it's ruining everything, which is partly what they want to do. But it works on a place like Twitter because that's just people and stuff. slop and opinions and everybody, but this is a serious news program that it doesn't quite work

the same way. I don't know. It's very weird and unsettling and clear what they're doing. Just the specific detail about some of this pushback happening right before the piece was supposed to air, like coming within 19 minutes apparently of not making it to air, which is wildly unprofessional and unheard of and lots of ways, you know, to have this piece and then all of a sudden have, you know, the Barry Weiss come down right before it's supposed to go and say make these changes, make all these changes. It's just fucking wild. This new producer, Nick Bilton of Hollywood fame, coming in and basically telling them, you know, we're going to have a whole new

crop of correspondence. The writing was on the wall essentially. that this was coming. And despite, you know, these seasoned professionals with the gravitas voice, being professional. I mean, he's speaking to the point that they already were, maybe not in this clip, but throughout this interview, they were showing the realities of the protesters that some of it was aggressive, that they did include Alex Pretti kicking out the taillight of a cop car in all. of this because of course none of that justifies murdering somebody

but they were trying to paint a balanced picture and when David Ellison took over CBS News or Paramount took over CBS News and may soon be taking over CNN he said you know

we're going to stay a fair operation we're not tilting the scales to one side or the other we're doing this show doing the news for the majority of people in the middle, right, like trying to get that balance. But then immediately Barry Weiss starts telling the reporters individual words to change in their copy in individual news reports, which does not appear to be the way to get any reporters on your side, right? If you are, if you're a young, new executive producer or overseer of CBS News and you don't have

experience in broadcast news journalism and have never been an actual journalist yourself and have just been a columnist and there's a lot of speculation and skepticism about your ability to do that, you'd think you'd want to win these people over to try to show like, hey, I can, I know this is a bit unorthodox, but I've built something I really passionate about and here's how I'm going to support you and help you. But no, she's pulling pieces unfriendly to Trump and she's saying, got to put the word toward in here. And that is just not how any of this is supposed to work, which Pelly gets into in this interview.

I want to read another quote from him. He says, and the bigger problem, frankly, is not any kind of political influence. The problem was the incompetence. You don't break a deadline. That episode came within 19 minutes of not making it to air. The entire hour of 60 minutes, it was the night of the Grammys. 60 minutes was the lead into the Grammys, and we almost didn't have a broadcast. It feels like you should be a little bit humble going in there and saying,

I know I haven't done this before. And so let me learn the ropes before you almost screw up the entire. That's also just 101 in terms of being a good boss, learning the ropes. But that's not a consideration for her. It's just lets me strong arm my way through this and make people obey me or whatever. This is how it happens in other countries. This is how you really, really lose the freedom of the press when, and you think that we're, well, we don't think this anymore, but I used to have this idea that we're untouched by that, that, you know, America's institutions will hold strong. And we value our freedom of the press too much to allow this to stand. But it is happening every day and more and more blatantly as evidenced by this. Yeah, it's very blatant what's going on.

It is just, I mean, as both you were just sort of describing, like, all these different steps of her coming in and so on and so forth, it is just Twitter takeover. It is just a person who has a chip on their shoulder about the left specifically and is presenting themselves as like, well, I'm actually bringing even-handedness to the platform. I'm going to, we're going to lift both sides up. It's not going to be left or right. It's framing it like you're a centrist. And also, you're very antagonistic to everybody there right away, even though you have no idea what you're doing and you've never been in that business before and you're telling everybody what to do.

And then Grock post something and you're like, oh, last minute, I got to change it. Actually, we got to get in there and change it. It's all, it's the same energy. It's just on something much more, like, like, more serious. It's a real serious, like, program that people do it for decades. not social media. You can switch things up, but it is the same, like,

philosophy behind it and the same moves that have been happening. And it's the same, uh, Weiss thinks she's doing what Elon also thinks she's doing, where, uh, she's thinking,

well, these are all just a bunch of communists here. They're so far to the left that me doing what I'm doing is just pulling them to the center that we're all doing. She doesn't see it as I'm making everything right wing. It's the stupid meme that Elon always posts. I was going to bring up the meme. It's,

yeah, so far left. I didn't change. I'm actually a centrist now. And to prove that, I'm going to just spew right-wing talking points and do work for the right-wing president. And that is, it's just, there are two peas in a pod. They should hang out. Oliver Darcy, its status also reported that company leaders from elsewhere are worried about the brand CBS suffering. Right? You, you, you developed the Paramount Plus show Dutton Ranch,

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gentleman gentleman john nothing now we can talk election stuff can we now we can really dig into it yeah last week we weren't enraged enough the vein you couldn't see the vein in my forehead so much so now

but at any rate this weekend was the weekend where nithiaraman passed Spencer pratt in the LA mayoral race it makes sense people don't want a Spencer Pratt in the general It makes so much sense, in fact, that this concept of the votes slowly coming in after the election day and Pratt getting lower in the race and other people gaining on him was explained to him and he acknowledged it in May. He knows. He's pretending. Most of them are pretending. He is pretending. He is pretending. He is pretending. It was explained, and he quote tweeted a tweet explaining that, yeah, like, he's going to, like, get first or second, and he's going to slowly get lower.

And he quote tweeted it with, like, it was dumb and dumber. So you're telling me there's a chance. So he knows. He's fully aware of it. He's pretending he's lying to you. Well, not to our wonderful listeners and viewers. That's part of the brand. This is going to make a great episode of his reality TV show that he's making out of the election.

I mean, it is, though. This is going to be a part of it. But of course he has to lean into what's happening. Of course he has to. I'm being sarcastic, but he will. Of course he has to. He's going to milk it. He's going to milk this.

Yeah. So, you know, now it's tough because they can't all get their story straight. The number of theories, because I really was not trying to be like combative or dunk on people. I was just like if they were engaging with me, you know, calling me an idiot, I was called an R word a lot this weekend, a lot. Congrats. You know, you know, yeah, write a passage. on Elon's website. But I was just like, what's your theory?

Who cheated? How and why? Because as we said before, Karen Bass wanted to go up against Spencer Pratt. Way easier to be. Also, if she's going to cheat, why not just do it in November? Doesn't matter. Now Spencer Pratt is hinting with a tweet yesterday that it's all homeless people's ballots who are allowed to vote as well, by the way. but it's because the last few batches had 43,000 votes for Nithiaraman,

and then he shared a screenshot of something that's like, on any given night, there are 43,000 such and such homeless people in L.A. And he's doing like, wink, wink, what's happening here? And like, I just, like, even if you were able to pull that off and, like, get a bunch of ballots from homeless people who don't know that they're registered to vote, fill them out for someone else, why not drop them off a few days earlier? Like, it doesn't make sense to go through all the trouble and then make it look so bad.

The idea, like, we're going to do, we're going to do massive, massive voter fraud. For the socialist mayor, like the progressive mayor, not, I don't want to say she's a socialist, but, like, the person that the current mayor doesn't want to run against is who is going to, but first we need to like make the republican feel good or like feel confident for a little bit and then we're going to like take that away also and we all know this what's the implication where so in this current batch nithia got 43,000 votes and on any given night there are around to 43,000 homeless people in the city.

So one night they got the there was all the homeless people but then another night there are different homeless people on any given night there are around 40,

it's not like here are the 43,000 registered homeless people and the majority I don't have a percentage but many many many of those people are like not what Spencer Pratt is trying

to indicate our homeless people. There are people who have to temporarily live in the car or they got evicted and they're couch surfing, which is also like bad and we should try to prevent that. But he wants everyone to think that there are 43,000 like drug addled zombies going around and they're either going to stab you with a syringe or they're going to vote. That's what they would like you to think. It's just such a misrepresentation. And of course, just trying to feed into the narrative that he has been working once to build about what LA is like, which is so divorced from the reality of LA, a lovely city, a lovely place to be. I think there's probably some people, you know,

listening from Ohio that have heard lots of podcasts talking about this and perhaps you're over it and I understand that. I think what's really important to note about this and why this matters for all of us is because this is the playbook and they are now going to be using this to talk about election fraud as if they weren't but now ramping up leading into the midterms

they need to create as much chaos in the narrative around this election so it can fuel them with whatever the fuck comes next in their playbook and that is why it's really important to some to fucking pay attention

to this goddamn Spencer a crap bullshit. I apologize, but it's true. Yeah, I'm so sorry to everyone. It is, I mean, it is, you know, it's a big city in America and it's a mess. Everybody's paying attention to it. But it is a case study that is interesting. And I mean, even leading up to this election, all the sort of, and we talked about like,

all the astro-turfed support for him and everybody like sort of living in their weird Twitter bubble like, oh my God, this guy's got it in the bag. Everybody just like gassing him up for money. a lot of the time, and creating this illusion so that then when he loses, now there's all this. But I was told on the only website that matters that he was the most popular guy in the world and he was going to win. And now he's not. And he's slowly winning even less, even though we were told that this was going to happen.

And so now they can spread whatever lie. Like, I don't think we got to this because it hadn't happened yet. but at one point a vote drop was published, but it was only the first half. They didn't publish Spencer's votes yet. It was like within like, I think like within an hour, like they like updated it. It was, I think even sooner than that.

It was very, very quick. But people got screenshots of Karen Bass got all these votes. Nithyrama got all these votes zero for Spencer Pratt. So the narrative was that, oh my God, he didn't get any votes this drop. That's proof of the voter fraud, which is like, A, why would they do that? Like, they're so competent and, like, efficient that they can steal the election, but they didn't think to not give him a few votes for every drop.

It's very, very stupid. They're also incompetent boobs and can't run a city, can't do anything, don't even want, you know. The evil communists can't do anything, but they can do this kind of in a way that we all know about or whatever. But that was obviously not true, and they ran with it because they had the one screenshot. And all day, people posted about it. And I'm not just like, not randoms, but like, not even, not even serious people, but like,

you know, the fucking blue, all the blue, all the people on the shitty website were posting about it. And every single person would respond with this is a lie. This isn't true. This isn't true. This isn't true. And they're all still up. The, like, the registrar came out. And it's like replying to like every five minutes they're replying to somebody.

Like, this isn't true. This isn't true. This isn't true. They don't care. They're just, we needed the lie. And they moved on to another lie the next day. I want to send a gift to the LA County Registrar slash County Clerk for trying their best. To reply to people like Tim Poole being like, actually this has been explained and here's the thing.

And I'm like, don't bother. This person is a shameless propagandist. They do not care about anything. Benny Johnson does not care. This is just good for him to whip up. It's just good for them. That's running their social media. There are so many tweets.

I know, but like this person is trying their. best. Yeah, they're doing a great job. But there's so many, because also there's so many people out there who know they're lying. And again, even the, they picked a different one yesterday. They said, oh, Nithia Raman conceded on election night.

And now, and now she's like back in the race. First of all, who cares? The votes be counted. But also, she didn't concede. She cried. See, Spanner, like there's one website that hosted and posted the video and it says her concession speech. She doesn't

concede in the speech, but they happen to label it that way, even though that's not what it was. And so they got the screenshot. They could pass it around. But they also, most of them, always include at the very top of their tweet. Genuine question. No, it's not. I really want an answer to this. No, you don't.

No, you don't. In good faith, me, the propagandist and liar. I don't believe this, but like, for people who did, like, let me just ask you this. Please, help me out in the comp. You don't care. You're not reading these. You it's so infuriating because they all start they all say genuine question The dumbest thing in the world? Explain it to me I got accused by a bunch of people on the right of gaslighting them

Oh did you? Which is an interesting word the kind of like the language of me too and social justice That they really wanted to move on from 10 years ago that was so woke they're now accusing Anyone who's just like oh here's a link that says what they're doing like you're gas you're gas gas lighting is desperate. Did you send them a link to the definition of gas lighting? I've done that before. We should wrap this up by seeing Trump's storm out of an interview. You know that these elections are rigged.

Your network knows that they're rigged. You know that I won an election in a landslide and I got 94% bad press. But Mr. President, he's never presented. because you have no credibility. But you've never presented evidence that it was rigged. Let's keep talking about. I want to talk about Todd Lynch. You have more evidence.

There's more evidence than ever presented. Let's talk about. Your elections in this country, we're like a third world country. Your elections are crooked and you're crooked and meet the press is crooked. And so is ABC and CBS and CNN. But Mr. President. Your one-sided crooked networks. So let's call it quits because I've had enough.

Thank you, darling. Have a good time. Mr. President, let's please. I traveled all the way to Wisconsin. I've traveled all the way to Wisconsin. On and off in the rain and I've given you enough time. You ought to straighten out your press because you know what? A country can never be great with a dishonestress.

Listen, we traveled all the way to Wisconsin for the interview. You know what? I've never seen him so angry. Yeah. You know, I don't, you know, this gives a real insight to, I mean, just somebody talking back to him at all? Yeah, when he's wrong about something and he's being cold and he's asked for evidence of the thing that he's claiming, he gets the most mad. I think a reporter, probably a woman of color because we know that really upsets him, could rile him up enough to where he might not survive.

He could have. He might. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying it. But there was a moment like, oh, is he going to have a stroke? Is he going to stroke out right now? I do think you could make him so upset in an interview that his organs might explode. It's certainly possible.

That's the first time I thought that. Obviously. That's just wild. He can't. I mean, he's so mad. He's like, he can't even. It gets so loud and red and, oh, vainy. Which would be horrible.

We don't want that to happen to our president. But he needs to breathe. I'm trying to think of like what's the funniest question that would be like to make a mad like challenging him on like, sir, you're not actually supposed to look directly at the sun like during the eclipse. And he's like, no, you are supposed to look at the sun. I was told and it didn't give me the glasses and I looked right there.

That was a very like fucked up little moment from the president of the United States. and I don't want to I want to sort of highlight the weight of that and how that was he shouldn't be that's a bad

he's a bad dying man what a piece of shit fuck off sir but also in that same interview and this is the real segue he said that he never said

he would not start new wars he said he never said no new wars I do want to be fair don't be fair I must be fair

and bounds to the president he said I never guaranteed it. And if you go back and watch some of his no war bits, where he goes, he's like, with me, you're not going to have wars. But, you know, stuff happens. You got to have a strong military.

So he would segue into being like strong military just in case. Because I knew that he was lying and that there would be more wars. But the people didn't hear him say that. Whatever, anyway. No. Anyway. I agree with the president completely that he never said that and you. Good.

Thank you. What's happened, Jonathan? What's the latest? Oh, I mean, like, so Iran fired missiles at Israel. Trump said he's like, I'm going to tell BB not to shoot back. We got to stop this. Israel fires missiles back. He's like, they're going to stop this.

We're going to have a ceasefire. I've got my ceasefire with Iran. But separately, Israel and Iran are going to have a great ceasefire really shortly. And they have stopped at the moment. The market loves it. apparently. Like, I have nothing new to say about it. Well, the market did not love anything on Friday, from what I understand.

No, the market was bad. The market was bad, but then it's good. See? Same thing, same playbook. Yeah, I do love Trump calling Netanyahu fucking crazy. He went on, that's getting a headline of making its way around. He did say other things that means that, to suggest that he respects the man. but he says that in terms of what he's doing in Lebanon, I suppose.

He didn't say that in an interview, though. He called him crazy, like, allegedly in, like, a phone call, right? Yes, a U.S. official leaped to Axios. This is very similar to what happened with Biden. Like, Trump is so mad at BB Netanyahu. He really, he wants this to stop so much. It's the exact same thing. Now, maybe he did say it.

But he confirmed it. It says, I mean, the Jerusalem Post says that U.S. President. Donald Trump confirmed that he called Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu fucking crazy and told him that Trump kept him out of jail during a column money

but he also goes on to say no I respect him and blah blah I mean I have a lot of crazy people around me that I respect with constantly fighting with Lebanon but he's just trying to you know leak the idea like well I don't like this he's still going rogue over there in Lebanon but he's a good dude

missiles fired. We don't know what's happening. Will they? I mean, it's the same thing. We are in month, you know, March, April, we're in month four of this excursion or whatever. Israel spying us. That's a dirty big story. I mean.

Yeah, obviously. But also, yeah. So there's spying us, obviously. But we're not allegedly spying on them. Yeah, okay, okay. This is a New York Times article, Pentagon. growing espionage threat from israel they acknowledge that there's a history that there is a history of spying but the level of spying is unprecedented but yeah i mean they're all up in our business

so i believe this feels very cold war of like you have to spy on your allies sometimes more than your enemies and these people like british guys and hats talking by the blake speaking of the cold war so we're going to wrap things up so i just started watching the Americans. Oh, good. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. It's because you liked Widows Bay.

Well, so here's the problem is that because of Widows Bay, everyone, a lot of people are starting to watch the Americans. And therefore, a lot of people are starting to tweet about the Americans. And now I know too much about the end of the Americans. No, no. You'll forget it. No, you don't. You'll forget it.

There's so many seasons. It's a great show. Just don't look at tweets. It's okay. But they told me, okay. Don't say it in here. I'm not going to. But I will say, look out for Carrie Russell in the brown curly wig costume, particularly

from a profile because it looks like me. I'm just saying. Okay. That's a really good Halloween costume. It is if anybody watched it. It is if anybody watched it. It's just kind of a deep cut. It's a few episodes.

It's phenomenal. It's really, really, really great. But the internet, it's just like, oh, everyone's watching the Americans. Let's show some final scenes from it. It's infuriating. This is the way we're going to end the show? Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah. Watch the Americans. Watch Widows Bay. I'm working my way through it. Here's a little piece of fun news. The Sagrada Familia in Barcelona is finally going to be completed this year. I thought that was fun to know. It's been, if you're not familiar, incredible architecture,

by Gaudi in Spain, tons of it, and the Sagrada Familia was not able to be completed before he passed away, so it's been in the state of construction. It's a masterpiece, but it will finally be finished, apparently. I don't know, I just wanted to say something

other than the United States, other than the dumpster fire, something that is very beautiful and inspiring. Look at the pictures online, or go visit it, but you can look at them online and be like, Wow, that's a masterpiece.

It would be nice to go. It was nice. We should all go. We should all go live, even more news live from Barcelona. Maybe that'll bump our numbers up. Barcelona. Does it sound better to say it right or wrong? I don't know.

I think it sounds better to say it wrong. I think that it sounds like I'm trying too hard and that maybe I'm mocking something to say it right. So that's why I'm not. Yeah. No, that's what I was worried about. Will this sound mocking? So that's just remove it. Yeah.

Just don't have a wry smile on your face when you say it. I can't. That's how I say everything. Oh, well. That's true. Look. Okay, that's it for us here today. Folks, we have done it.

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