Some More News - Even More News: Trump Strait-Up Screwed This Up

Episode Date: March 13, 2026

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Hi, on today's episode, we talk about the military's investigation into the U.S. bombing of the girls' school in Iran, the Strait of Hormuz, Republican members of Congress being more openly Islamophobic than ever, and... Doge guy depositions. Hey, hello. Welcome back to Even More News. The first, the only news podcast. My name is Katie Stoll. The only news podcast, prove it. Debate me, coward. Just kidding. Hi, Katie. I'm Cody Johnston.

Cody Johnston, ladies and gentlemen. And also... Yes. Jonathan's also here. Hi. Wow. I think we should just get started and dive into the news, shall we? Okay.

I think that's a good idea. I'm trying to. figure out what news we should start with. I suppose we should say, because we've talked about this for the last several weeks, and we've known that this is true, but an ongoing military investigation has determined in their preliminary findings that, yes, the U.S. did indeed blow up that girls' school. Yeah, no. Huge shocker with this one.

But it continues to be absolutely disgusting. One of the worst massacres perpetrated by the United States in a very long time. One part of this news update is that they are saying that it does not appear that Claude was a part of the targeting of this specific location. I wanted to blame Claude. You wanted to blame Claude for it. I fear that this will turn into an example from the government's perspective as to why AI should be allowed to operate without human input. That remains to be seen if that's the way they're going to start spinning it. But I suspect that it might be.

My mind spins at the reality that this was either. purposeful or bad, bad, bad intelligence. This has not been a military, part of the military compound in 10 years. Very clearly has been children's school for a very long time. If we're just rushing into these special military operations, assuming like, you know, the United States, we're going to come in with all our power and all our might. And you've got over 10 year old out-of-date information that you're using. What the fuck?

Yeah, at best it's carelessness and negligence, which is also not good. Again, we've known this ever since it happened. They did it on the first day, which I can't stop thinking about. It's the first thing we did. like the first thing we did was blow up the school. And we have talked about it a lot and probably talk about it more. I just wanted to sort of address something I've seen a little bit of amidst some particularly democratic politicians talking about this because they're kind of, many, not all, are kind

of trying to walk this line of being critical of it, but sort of on like procedural grounds in a lot of ways and not getting to the heart. of like we shouldn't be doing this, but one thing I've seen about this particular attack, by which I mean blowing up that school, is referring to it as like the worst, like the worst military error of, of, in decades, or like this, like, I can't believe we accidentally blew up this school. And I find some of that language to be a little bit unnecessary and not quite the whole picture, because as we've, we've noted and we've seen for weeks and months, the department of the head of the Department of War, which I guess I'll call it for this particular

segment, has repeatedly and proudly, loudly talked about how we're throwing out stupid rules of engagement. We're going to unleash maximum lethality instead of, quote, tepid legality. So they've been signaling for a long time that they're just going to fucking blow up stuff and they don't care about rules of engagement. They don't care about war crimes. They don't care about that stuff because that's PC. So they've been signaling for a long time that we're just going to be kind of careless and like as lethal as we possibly can, no rules of engagement. I've given them full permission to do whatever. So to categorize this as an error isn't really accurately describing the situation or the context of what's going on. It's not really an error when you kind of

said that we're just going to blow stuff up and whatever happens happens. It's like you're in a fight And you were like, I mean, I'm sorry that was never my intention. I'm sorry that your feelings got hurt. Or like, or like you're doing a final. Like, okay, ground rules. There are none. Biting's okay. Like all this stuff is okay.

And then you bite their nose off. And like, but why did you accidentally do that? Well, no, that's part of it. That's also not a great analogy. But the point being, if you're signaling for weeks and months that you're going to be the most lethal military in the world and you're throwing out rules of, of engagement and you don't care about legality of your actions, then you're signaling that you're going to blow up some schools and not care. So it's not really an accident. It's a byproduct of your

approach. And I want more people to talk about it through that lens. I don't know if the military investigation will uncover this answer, but like it may have been an error and they thought this was a valid target. It may not have been. We don't. We don't. We don't. We don't. know right now what the intention right we have no idea we just know that we did it right I well all we know is we did it and I don't want it like like Elizabeth Warren is out there calling it an error and you you'd you'd want to desperately assume so but we really don't know and we need to have not just a military investigation congressional investigations immediately yes also just error enrages me because

that's not the appropriate word for a massacre. A horrific mistake. Something that requires the utmost attention, something that requires our contrition, a real look at our approach, as Cody's already established. So, yeah, thanks, Elizabeth. Great.

And it errors very, also, like, very, like, kind of robotic. And it implies, like, well, there's, like, this well, like, this well-old machine and like Claude was involved, all this stuff like, error, error. No, no, no. It's like a horrible tragic mistake. Again, at best. Right.

And we'll talk about what the president said. But in general, again, I'm just going to be saying this every week till I die, I guess, this ecosystem, this media landscape. The obvious clamping down on information that we have access to as opposed to where other people in the world have access to. We should not trust anything that they're telling us, obviously. If you go to, I'm not even saying like right wing Twitter, but just like Normie Instagram, Normie Facebook, you can very quickly find comments under stories about this saying, wait, I thought it was Iran. I thought we determined that Iran did this. Right. You know, the information is so clouded.

It's working. Like, while they've done the cloud, the information has worked. I find very interesting the different. conservative reactions to this because, you know, Laura Ingram is out there saying, this is bad. We should like make sure this doesn't happen again and admit that it's a mistake. And then there's like Scott Jennings who doesn't, I don't think has acknowledged that it happened. No. And is just like our brave heroes were winning, fighting for victory, all that stuff, just ignoring it. And then there's the president saying, I don't know about.

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Why are you saying that when nobody else in your administration is saying that? And his response was, like, I don't know enough about it. Okay. Right. So, like, then why did you suggest this random thing if you don't know enough about it? And he's asked again the next day. And he once again, it's like, well, I don't know anything about it. Well, then stop talking about it.

Stop just making up these lies that people are repeating or whatever. Well, no, he's doing about it. I'm too busy to learn about the children we slaughtered. I'm too busy. endorsing Jake Paul for whatever shit he's running for, who cares? No, it's like completely absurd, offensive. And yeah, he's just going to be like, I don't know what you're talking about and walk away

as if anyone buys it. Like, even his supporters don't buy it. They know what he's doing. Lots of stuff, other things developing in this ongoing special military operation. Excursion. Excursion, thank you. We're not Russia.

Do you think, do you think they told him to say incursion? They told him incursion, and he said excursion, and now he's only saying excursion. Excursion. We're on as like Gilligan and the crew. Oh, yeah, a little adventure. Well, it's supposed to be just a three-hour war. Yeah. Three-hour war.

Should we talk about the straight? Yeah, let's talk about the straight of Luz. Sorry, you might have. I could have been talking bearing. but I'm talking to our moves. We talk about these days. I was following your lead. Yeah, let's talk about the street.

We're going to talk about canals. Like, what do you want to talk about? We don't, there's a lot going on. It's a, you know, a war. A wide, yeah, body of water between the UAE, Oman, and Iran. Iran has attacked at least six vessels in the strait. So obviously, oil tankers, shipping containers, a little bit nervous about going through there. We're going to escort them.

Right. So, Energy Secretary Chris Wright said that a U.S. Navy ship escorted an oil tanker through the Strait of Hormuz. Then Fox News reporter Jennifer Griffin said that that was not true. She's legit. I know I said Fox News, but she's like

the foreign reporter. She's like the foreign reporter. There. Like, she, that's reliable. And then the tweet got deleted. And then they blamed it on a staffer.

Some staffer tweeted out of nowhere. The Iranian government got to screenshot that tweet and have a field day making fun of this clown show. Did they fire the staffer? Or did they just mention that it was a staffer and then move on? Yeah, they just invented a staffer and then moved on. Okay. A lot of talk about how this was probably or possibly

an attempt to manipulate the market because this came right on the heels of a huge tanking of the market. Yeah, there's a lot, there's so much confusion going on that Senator Chris Murphy, after a briefing, tweeted, here's what I can say, I can't reveal classified information. He writes, and on the Strait of Hormuz, they had no plan. I can't get into more detail about how Iran gums up the street,

but suffice it to say right now, they don't know how to get it safely back open. So Iran is doing something. Attacking vessels, one thing, but maybe something else we don't know about. And the Pentagon at the moment's like, yeah, yeah, we didn't, we don't know what to do. 20% of oil comes from there. Well, so then you just say that oil is going to go up and that's good. Yes, it is good now.

We like that it's going up. We like the gas up. Trump posted on Thursday morning, the United States is the largest oil producer in the world by far. So when oil prices go up, we make a lot of money. But, and then he goes on to talk about how Iran can't get a nuclear weapon. But it's just like a little treat about like. I'm so annoyed by that.

Yeah, a little treat. Sounds like the same kind of treat that we were given when we were told tariffs would make us a lot of money. Sounds like that same kind of treat. Did you not get your check? We bring in more money. Not yet. That would be a treat.

Money for who, for what? Exactly. That's my point is it's like that means nothing to just Americans trying to get to work. Well, because with the tariffs, which we pay whatever, but like with the tariffs, they could at least pretend we're going to give you tariff checks. We're going to pay for stuff. But the money that comes in from the oil is for the oil. companies, they're not giving us

checks. They're about to get richer. He's going to nationalize the oil company. When the oil prices go up, you pay the oil companies more money. Don't you love that? They're American companies, don't you know? What a moron. As for the straight

of Hormuz, it is laughable to say we don't have a plan. I mean, I believe that they don't have a plan, but how do you enter this excursion without a plan. This is not some surprise.

With the understanding that they don't have nuclear weapons, so their leverage is we can play with the world economy, we can mess things up more than you might anticipate, and then the lack of being able to foresee that, knowing what Trump's pressure points probably are, knowing that he chickens out every time the numbers don't go the right way, well, this is their best leverage to hit that stuff. And the argument is that the Iranian regime is prepared to hold out a hell of a lot longer than the U.S. government probably is when it comes to energy, fertilizer, gas prices, all those things. Especially during the midterm election year. Like they're all just thinking about that and like how things are going to look for that.

So if things go poorly and get stretched out, then it's going to look worse and worse and worse for them. They're going to end it. Whereas to your point, like, no, they'll just keep going. They'll just keep doing this. And we'll hold out. Shocking because we all know that Donald Trump is really good at 5D chess. So it really. Five diaper chess.

Five diaper chess. Yeah, this is real bad. And now the Department of Energy coming out and saying, oh, you can't expect prices to come down below pre-war levels until 2027 at the earliest. Sure. So let's just absorb that information. And that's provided if it stops like now. but it seems that the only way that they're now I mean we've talked a lot about the idea they're floating whether or not they're floating ground troops but it seems that that might be the only way to secure the straight of Hormuz is with ground troops.

Potentially for how long what troops there are I guess the word would be forever. Forever. Indefinitely. Are you are either? review nervous about the escalated terror threat in California, supposedly? I mean, I saw the headline first. We were, I believe we were filming our next episode of Some More News. And I kind of went, oh, look, I don't know. I can't predict what's going to happen. I don't know all the ins and outs.

I don't know who is planning what. But I do remember what it was like after 9-11 during the Iraq War. I remember all the claims and all the fear mongering and all this all the stuff we're seeing now and going to see. And I was like, oh, that sounds like probably an overblown report that the media is gobbling up for their purposes. Is that what was going on, Jonathan? Is that what it was or is that something else?

Oh, this is a, I mean, the headline had me, the headline had me like, uh, and then the news story itself had me like, ah. Right. The headline says, FBI warns Iran aspired to attack California with drones in retaliation for war. Alert. And it has the word aspired there. But it's easy to interpret.

That's true. Yes. So what happened is there was a memo that the FBI sent to California police departments in February before we started the war. War? Before the war started. And it said, hey, Iran's probably exploring a lot of different things they could do in the event that the United States attacks them. They'd probably really love to drone attack California, right? Who wouldn't? But you have to kind of go deeper into the story to find that there was no real evidence that anything was planned, that there was anything credible, that they would have the capabilities. right you'd have to have a boat off the coasts about this story

the capabilities and the intentions and publications to their credit jumped on the ABC News headline seemed a bit sensationalist to get attention and it got my attention living in California as I and my family do

but also you're kind of hit with this like every not every many many many other countries in the world live with the threat of being attacked on their home soil. And we live with that technically, as there are many warheads pointed at us and have been as long as we've been alive. But other than 9-11, there has been no foreign, you know, memorable foreign excursion

here. And I don't even know how, like, if something happened if Iran was able to drone strike Camp Pendleton, which is near San Diego. I don't know if it would make all of America like rah, rah, let's go blow them all up, support for 90% or bottom crash out. How dare you encourage an attack on us here? The people who have nothing to do with your little game. I have no, like, I guess the former is more likely because probably the former, I think. It's, I mean, just that thing, that kind of, even just the imagery and the idea of doing like, like, it would just be like, oh, it's Pearl Harbor, but like on the continent,

like, I think it would be pretty instantly like, oh, yeah, we got to go, we got to go, we got to go. But it's kind of like, we did that. We're like blowing up their place. I don't want it to happen. We challenge them to do it. Like, we're pushing them. No, I mean, it's just like the images from Tehran night after night after night, you know, it's a huge city, it's a huge country.

There's so many different places to hit. As long as we have bombs, we can keep blowing up different towns, villages, cities for months, and they want that. They're promoting it. This is so fishy feeling for sure. It's hard. It's hard to wrap your mind around. And it speaks to the distrust that we have in our government, the lack of reporting. this was a warning that came a long time ago

and is being presented as if it happened recently. It's very clearly being presented as a result of the war, even though it was from before. It's really, really dishonest. You know, you're saying, okay, well, if you strike, then California might get hit. If you took that seriously, you'd think that there would have been steps

to prepare prior to the excursion. And so there's that. It's hard to not wonder and worry if this administration is desperate enough to do a false flag attack on California. Curious. Or is this? I'm not even need to go there. I'm just saying that that's the natural byproduct of this information ecosystem that we're living in. And that's how people feel.

And it should speak volumes as to this, what we're dealing with right now. Because also there's just this disconnect between, and this is true with like the war stuff too, just like, here's why we're doing it. Well, here's why we're doing it. Here's why we were tricked into doing it. All the sort of crossed lines there. Even this, so you have this report. It came out and it was from before the war and it released after the war for those fear-mongering stuff.

Cash Patel gutted the FBI counterintelligence team. for like tracking Iranian threats like days before this excursion started. After having this information. So this report comes out and then he guts the team and then the war starts and then they're reporting on this previous report as if it's like a current thing. And then you have the president being asked. So like what about like Iranian sleeper cells? Which first of all, stop asking the president anything.

Just don't ask him stuff about. You're just letting the idea. You're just letting him know that you want to know about it, and then he'll talk about it all the fucking time. And his answer was like, uh, yeah, we're, uh, we're tracking them. We, we've tracked. We know pretty much where all the Iranian sleeper cells are in the country, which is also bizarre, because what do you mean you know where they are? You're like deporting, like, random citizens and residents of America, but you know where the Iranian sleeper cells are after the war you started and you're just like casually talking about it. It's also absurd.

And it's just, it's creating, again, the slop and the, the questioning and the anxiety, all the kind of stuff. I don't know. I don't think we have to play the, because you summarize the sleeper cell Trump clip. So we don't have to play it. But like, and I say this as someone who has played hundreds of Trump clips on a podcast, it is over the last few weeks more than ever abundantly clear that you, there's no point in listening. to this man speak. I know some people would say like it's always been that way, but he is now contradicting himself within the same breath at an alarming rate. Like not just over, the war is the war and we're going to do it till the end, but it's also just a little excursion.

And I'm going to go watch the war and I'll, yeah, yeah, to from like very serious things like that to, I guess not to spoil next week's episode, but what his comments about aliens of like in the same breath, oh, Obama shouldn't have shared classified information that I'm also sharing by saying I haven't seen anything about it. Like, there's no point in listening to this guy anymore, ever. And yes, next week's episode is about aliens. Especially now, I mean, it's gotten so much worse. And, I mean, the only accurate stuff he ever says, I don't even know what it would be

about the ballroom, maybe. It's the only thing he cares about. but maybe probably not Grab him by the pussy That was the most honest He used to be more consistent like that I know yeah Telling that 12 year old girl

He'd date her in a few years or whatever And there's no point in saying Of course the reporters are going to go out there When he's walking to the helicopter And screaming questions and Trump's always going to stop And say stuff That's why they love him And he's going to create new cycles doing that

And there's no way out of it And I think it would be better if those things just didn't push the news. If we saw it, you know, you'd see it as a clip, someone would text you a clip. Oh, did you see the thing the idiot said today? Let's look at what his evil minions are doing. Right? Like, that's the, like, the stuff that Hegseth says, I think it's worth, I think most

Americans should tune in to watch the way their Secretary of Defense is acting on TV a couple times a week, ranting about raining fire from above. I'm sure he's asking like chat GPT to tell him like mean sounding war speech. Yeah, yeah. We should, before we move on from the overall subject, we haven't talked much about Lebanon in the last few weeks and Israel has been bombarding Beirut and surrounding areas since this this war started there's a humanitarian crisis going on a reported 760,000 people have fled maybe up to a million yeah they think it could be once we know all the numbers up towards a million 200,000 children at least 600 people have been killed in Lebanon and it's just based on relentless Israeli attacks in there

obviously, you know, they are going after ostensibly Hezbollah, which is supported by Iran. That's why Lebanon is roped into all this. But the Lebanese government is also telling Israel, hey, we don't like Hezbollah either. But let's come up with a peace thing and stop blowing up apartment buildings where you say they were. Right. It's just kind of seemingly indiscriminate. Yeah. And like we're not doing, it's not even. like in your little human shield like narrative that's not that it's not even that like you

just stop yeah when do these people learn that this doesn't work what how many lives are worth one Hezbollah fighter's life do you think you're not radicalizing

people I also you know it's you're never you're never going to eradicate it not like this you just aren't You're going to make it worse. And then I keep thinking about, I know you bought something, Cody. I just, all around the world, not just in America, you see people having, you know, xenophobia, furious about immigrants. Why do you think people need to flee their countries?

This is a refugee crisis. Instead of making places stable, you're destroying people's countries. And then they have to go somewhere. To the question of like, when will they learn? It doesn't work. I think that maybe it does work for what their purposes are. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

Like to your point, like, yeah, it doesn't work for what you want, which is not all this death and destruction. But it does work if you kind of want to perpetuate that and want to eradicate certain types of people. or, you know, all the things that people do, these wars over, aren't really in service of what you would like, the peaceful version of the world, which is frustrating and depressing. It's just what they say. I mean, you're right about the actual justification, what their actual goals are.

But, you know, it gets packaged as, we're just going to save the people from Hezbollah. We're going to save the people from the regime, the Iranian regime. We're going to save Palestine from Hamas. By raining down fire. By raining down fire and murdering people and making them hate you and radicalizing people. You're just perpetuating. It doesn't matter.

Everybody ever knows what I'm saying. I think we should try to convince Republicans in this country, not convinced it's the truth. there is a sizable Christian population in Lebanon, as cynical as it may be, because, and we'll get to members of the GOP, not seeing Muslim people as human shortly, but like a third of Lebanon is Christian, and they're getting blown up too. If, you know, if the Trump administration cares so much about the persecution and the slaughtering of Christians around the world, you'd think that would pique some interest. I don't anticipate

that happening. It's a stretch to think... How white are those Christians? Yeah, I mean, exactly. The unfortunate question. Just teased this. We should talk about what Andy Ogles and Tommy Tuberville and some of the others are saying.

They're all fucking going out there now. It's like they got a memo. Stop talking about mass deportations, but do talk about how Muslims aren't people. Yeah. It's... Yeah, that stuff's not popular, but you know what a different kind of ethnic cleansing

might be popular. Andy Ogles is a Republican member of Congress from Tennessee. He tweeted, Muslims don't belong in American society. Pluralism is a lie. And then after that one, he wrote, paperwork doesn't magically make you American. Muslims are unable to assimilate. They all have to go back. I mean, not disqualifying.

He hasn't had to step down and apologize and been cast out of society. No, he's their golden boy now. He's one of their guys, right? because he's saying all the stuff that they wanted me to say. It is a really, really not a good sign that they are not, it's not even pivoting to this. They're just sort of like refocusing on this. And amidst the conflicts we've talked about, the excursion we've discussed, it's really, really, really bad that they're doing this right now. Yeah, it's disgusting.

It does feel very early 2000s. Everything feels a little deja vuy. This does come on the heels of this attack at Mayor Mom Dhani's house or outside the residence. Well, he did, according to Tuberville, he did 9-11. I would say that there's also so much happening all at once, that it is hard for anyone's story to take hold or. make it to in front of people. So there is that, but it is extremely depressing.

Terrifying. There are more concrete things going on. They're more specific, like, even, you know, stories in Congress of, like, legislation and obviously the war and all these things. And then this is just a tweet. It's just a tweet, but it's still emblematic of what's going on and important to discuss. But you're right. It's like, well, yeah, this isn't like news, but it is.

it should be. I think Republican members of Congress openly advocating for ethnic cleansing is is notable. It's new. And these people should be called out even more so that other Republicans who know it's wrong, who don't agree with it and are trying to keep quiet, have to go on the record and condemn it. Obviously, he should have been censured since he's not. And there's no consequences. Senator Tommy Tuberville goes out there. and he quote tweets an end-wokeness post that shows like 9-11 on one side and Zoran Mamdani hosting an Iftar during Ramadan, breaking a fast during Ramadan and he and Tuberville writes, the enemy is inside the gates. He's a fascist. He's a racist, fascist piece of shit. Um, Mumdani did 9-11. Fuck that guy. And this, like, you laid out like, yeah, he said this. Then Tuberville came out and did this. Now another. guy is going to do it. Like, these aren't...

Randy fine. This is his game. Exactly. And now he's got some competition. And now some other guys who may have been keeping a lid on this part of their party or who they are are like, oh, I can take the lid off now. Everything's fine, actually. It's... And also, if you're asking, reporters aren't watching this, whatever. But if you do ask a Republican congressperson or... senator uh they're going to say they didn't see it so have it printed out with you have the

tweet printed out and read it out loud to them that won't work either but you know whatever but right now why don't we end on some doge updates something a little light shall we slightly lighter a little light and depressing and infuriating at the same time yeah well the uh some doge bros meaning just like white guys in their 20s who Elon grabbed from SpaceX internships or wherever they were. They were deposed at the end

of January as part of a lawsuit of people of grants that were canceled saying that was illegal for you to randomly come in and say we don't get the money that was allocated. So there are a few clips that have been making the rounds

and there are two guys specifically who were working on grants for the national endowments for the humanities. And their job was to look at the 1400 or so grants and identify which ones were DEI as targets for cutting the funding. And the first clip is a guy named Justin Fox, and this is him being asked about his understanding of what DEI is. How do you interpret DEI?

There was the EO explicitly laid out. the details. I don't remember it off the top of my head. It's okay. I'm asking for your understanding of it. Yeah. My understanding was exactly what was written in the EO. Okay. So can you... I don't remember what was in the EO. EO is executive order.

Yeah, and real quick, sorry, and this continues for way too long. But if your understanding is what the EO said, but you don't know what the EO said, then you don't have an understanding. And you understand it at all. Which the guy tries to get at here. Let's keep going. So can you...

I don't remember what was in the EO. So right now, do you have an understanding of what DEI is? Yeah. Okay. So what's your understanding as you sit here today in this deposition? Well, it was exactly what was written in the EEO. And so any time that we would look at a grant through the lens of complying with an executive order, we would just refer back to the EO and assess if this grant had relation to it.

Okay. But I guess I'm stepping back from your methodology strictly in terminating the grants. Do you have an understanding as you sit here today of what DEI means? Yeah. Okay. So what's your understanding of what it means? Well, it is exactly what was written in the EO. Again, something that we've known all along, that it became almost like a search, control search for the words equity.

or inclusion. Oh yeah. They rock. They cropped it. You just looked for any words and then that's it. That's all. I mean, it wasn't even looking for words. They put these things into ChatGPT.

They admitted this and said, which of these are DEI? And ChatGPT says $349,000 grant to replace an aging HVAC system at the High Point Museum in North Carolina. That was a grant that got cut. ChatGPT argued. Improving HVAC systems enhances preservation conditions for collections, aligning with the goal of

providing greater access to diverse audiences. It doesn't make any sense. And again, it's meaningless. It's nonsense. It's nonsense. But it's also

as if people forget that words have different meanings and different contexts that equity and diversity sure can be a part of your classic DEI.

But they mean different things in different contexts. Yeah. Wild. Also, I went to that executive order, and that executive order does not define DEI. It doesn't say, I mean, it has a bunch of things, and you can get a very clear idea of what they think should be cut. I can guess. But it doesn't say, here's what DEI is.

Look for this stuff. The closest it has is, and this is what these guys were going off of. this is what the EO was to them. Terminate to the maximum extent allowed by law, all DEI, DEIA, and Environmental Justice offices and positions, including but not limited to chief diversity officer positions, all equity action plans, equity actions, initiatives or programs, equity related grants or contracts.

And then it goes on. So really, it was just anything related to equity. Yep. which I'm sure he can explain what that means well right it doesn't even really make sense because we're not going to watch this part of it but this guy gets challenged a bit further hey you canceled funding I think we should watch it actually you think we should I think so I think it's really really instructive do not to like jump on your point but like I think like it is exactly what we need to see production of my underground mother a feature

length documentary that explores the untold story of Jewish women's slave labor during the Holocaust through a daughter's search for her late mother's past, a collective camp diary in which she wrote and interviews with dozens of women survivors who reveal the gender-based violence they suffered and hid from their own families. You say yes, DEI. Why is a documentary about Holocaust survivors, DEI. Infection. It's the gender-based story that's inherently discriminatory

to focus on this specific group. It's inherently discriminatory to focus on what specific group? The gender-based, so females during the Holocaust. Yeah, it's really, really absurd. I don't want to focus too much on him as a person, but he really just seems like a dead-eyed psycho who I don't. Absolutely.

I don't care for his fake little faces that he's doing. But it's really, really fascinating and frustrating to see because what he's saying is that doing a documentary about a woman in the Holocaust is inherently discriminatory. And so, well, what would you want instead? Well, I guess if that's inherently discriminatory to focus on women in the Holocaust, then what you'd want to do is not focus on one particular group, but rather broaden your scope and talk about everybody. So you'd want to be more inclusive to other groups, right? Is that really what?

It is. Such circular. It's so wild. Their thing about DEI is that it's like, what about the white men? What about me? I, listen, I have a feeling that straight white men are included as part of that story. And I don't think, I don't think it would help his case to show who they were and what they were doing. I have a feeling they might not come off so well. Maybe that's not equity. But right, you want DEI to show the Nazis more in the Jewish women being sexually abused during.

the Holocaust? Both sides. All sides. Yeah, it's really, really disgusting and absurd. They don't know what they're talking about. They don't know what they're doing. He couldn't even explain the summary of the EEO that he was allegedly using because they just used AI the whole time and didn't care. And it was obviously, we've talked about this so much before. It's just like really, really, it's frustrating to see, but a little bit satisfying. We've talked about this before. There's so many examples of this. We've talked about in a roast recent Laura Louber episode. There's a great reenactment starring Katie's Laura Lumer in the episode of just these people who, like, publicly will say all this stuff and like be very inflammatory and derogatory or whatever. And then as soon as they're put in front of a serious person in a serious setting, like a deposition, they crumble.

Lauren Bobert being like, I'm so, I'll take the photo down. I'm so sorry. I didn't mean it. Laura Lumer trying to lie about the Arby's situation. Marjorie Taylor Green being like, yeah, I guess I did tweet that. Sorry. like all these things and they just they just can't discuss these issues with somebody who's serious and knows what they're talking about and this guy is just so smug and doesn't give a shit he's a piece of shit it does seem like they specifically chose people for these positions with zero critical thinking skills well yeah no critical thinking skills or empathy those are the two that are required for this i i know this is just like a little word thing but the words that were being used when the documentary

was being described was women and he says females I think he does it a couple times yeah yeah that feels that feels that feels in Sally oh yeah no yeah no that's that's 100% what's going on there I was looking at him I'm like you've never been in love

no one never loved you a movie about women is DEI another example of this very frustrating slash satisfying funny awful thing. Another Doge child is asked about this. He also can't explain what DEI is or what their methodology was

and he's asked basically like do you think that somebody with no experience in like grant writing or grant like all this stuff you think is irresponsible to put somebody like that in charge of this and he says no and it's like well why and his answer is well I think that

you know you can read books and have life experiences that give you the skills to do this and then the person responds, I'm only saying books because you said books. What books did you read? And the response was, well, there were no books. No books. No books. So what do you mean? I just listen to a podcast about how to do it. Yeah. I like your summary better. Yeah. That's all you need. All right. Well, we did it, folks. We've done did it. Uh, yeah, like, subscribe, share if you feel like it. Um, yeah, we.

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