Some More News - Even More News: Trump Throws JD Vance Under The Bus

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

Hi. On today's episode, Parker Molloy joins Katy, Cody, and Jonathan to talk about Trump's astounding admissions at the G7, the Republicans criticizing the deal, JD Vance getting thrown under the bus and Pride Hats in Major League Baseball.Read Parker Molloy's newsletter - https://www.readtpa.com#IranWar #JDVance #EvenMoreNewsPATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comYOUTUBE MEMBERSHIP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/joinEVERYONE who signs up wins a FREE toy or gift card! https://www.bboutique.co/vibe/somemorenews-podcastDripDrop is offering our audience 20% off your first order. Go to https://dripdrop.com and use promo code morenews.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction/Juneteenth05:49 - Trump Surrenders35:38 - No One Likes JD25:12 - Situation Room Leak57:12 - Baseball Enters The Culture WarSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hi, on today's episode, we talk about Donald Trump's remarkable speech at the G7, the Republicans criticizing his deal, and J.D. Vance, taking the fall. Oh, hello and welcome back to Even More News, the first and only news podcast. I'm Katie Stoll. That's right. That's left. And this is Center. Hello folks. Hi, I'm Cody Johnston. How you doing?

Cody Johnston, left of center. Very exciting. Return guest, one of our favorites, journalist and media critic who writes the newsletter at the present age. It's Parker Malloy. Hello.

Hello. Welcome back. It's so good to be back. You guys are my favorites of all the podcasts of all the one news podcast of all one of one of one perfect that's the problem with being the only news podcast we're like a lot of pressure we're either somebody's favorite or their least favorite yeah can be both because yeah yeah when we found out Parker was joining us this week we all breathed we all Jonathan knew Cody and I went great oh speaking of Jonathan he's also here where

Hi. Here he is. Hi. You were so quiet. We weren't sure. Jonathan. I didn't see him in. Oh, I try not to talk until I'm introduced.

And then I forget about that and I just talk mostly the rest of the show. That's what you're here for. Well, normally around 50 minutes. I'm like, I think that episode is just me talking, which is not what the show is. So let me stop. It can be. Today, we are bringing back the holidays. because we got some.

Real ones? Friday, June 19th. It's Juneteenth. It's Juneteenth, everybody. Real holiday. Trump did remove Juneteenth from the National Park Services list of free days, but it is still a federal holiday.

Also, fun little California facts. California is opening up their parks for free, or a bunch of them anyway. I think it's like 30 different parks. and you can registration is open right now through July something or rather but you can just go in there and register for a free parks pass in California and you can use it through the end of 2026 so fuck you Donald Trump yeah each state of California in honor of Juneteenth though I I went back and I looked at how how Trump used to talk about race like right after he first got into office

And I want to just share with everyone just a quick little paragraph from his first joint address to Congress because it wasn't technically a state of the union in February 2017. Tonight, as we mark the conclusion of our celebration of Black History Month, we are reminded of our nation's path towards civil rights and the work that still remains to be done. He goes on to talk about threats targeting Jewish cemetery centers and vandalism. each American generation passes the torch of truth,

liberty, and justice in an unbroken chain all the way to the present. The torch is now in our hands and we will use it to light up the world. I am here tonight to deliver a message of unity and strength and it is a message deeply delivered from my heart. A new chapter

of American greatness is now beginning. What we are witnessing today is the renewal of the American spirit. Our allies will find that America is once again ready to lead. All the nations of the world, friend or foe, will find that America is strong, America is proud, and America is free.

In nine years, the United States will celebrate the 250th anniversary of our founding. 250 years since the day we declared our independence. It will be one of the great milestones in the history of the world. But what will America look like as we reach our 250th year?

What kind of country will we? We leave for our children. And that's where I want to end it. This is chilling, actually, to hear back. Yeah, yeah, it's like he's warning us. But I do love that that was the opening of this speech. He opened the speech by being like, shout out to Black History Month. They really thought they had to pretend for a while.

Yeah. They really did that going into it. It was Trump would kind of try to talk to racism, which was. Well, it just speaks to how much as. changed in a relatively short period of time as well, just culturally and politically what's allowed and what's not. And that's a good reminder for how bad Donald Trump was the first term. All of the wheels have come off the butt. I don't know. Like everything, Pandora's box has been opened. Insert your phrase. He was too woke back then. I mean, just contrast that with like,

like all, talk about it so much. All of the black history. They, they. have erased from like our national monuments and museums and like the websites like it's that this the contrast is a very very stark and upsetting I guess we got to start with Trump at the G7 and the deal what a deal folks boy oh boy oh boy because it's so good oh boy we really are barreling towards putting that on a piece of merch oh boy Trump talking at the G7 yesterday and talking about the deal was remarkable for a lot of reasons, mostly because in so many words, he admitted that Iran won the war and that the only way to end the war would be to give them concessions. And then he talked about the concessions, you know, not being that big a deal

and kind of reasonable. And he really spent an hour hosting an even more news podcast. It sounded Like he's said the things that we largely have been saying for months now. Like there's no military solution here. You can bomb them as much as you want. But this is where we'll be right back in a few months. Hey, it makes no sense that, you know, we have bombs and they don't or whatever, you know. That we can't do this anymore because we're going to run out of oil and it'd be bad. Yeah, we're going to run out of oil in a few weeks.

And that'll be economic catastrophe. They need like enrichment of uranium. It can be used for like nuclear. and other things, not just nukes. Oh, I love this. We should watch some of these clips, though. It's something else. And it's just giving a lot of work to the Republican conservative media. They're, like, really, really trying with this.

But some have just given up. They're like, yeah, I think we lost. I think we're losers now. So I want to play the clip where he talks about, ultimately, like, well, we're going to run out of oils. And I'm going to be Herbert Hoover, if we do that. So it's really kind of a short clip where he talks about it and you'd think there's more, but he just bounces all over the place. So you'll see what I'm talking about here.

If we keep bombing, those ships won't be going. And you're talking about $500, $600, $600 million a day. It's a lot of money, a lot of money. That's why the world is okay. It's liquid. It's fine. Also, we run out of reserves in about four weeks. You know, there are reserves all over the world.

and we would really run out. And there'll be a time when you wouldn't be able to get it and you want to see Bedlam? So for all those so-called geniuses that want to show me how smart they are, ask them, why didn't they blow up General Soleimani? Ask that of the general and a couple of other people

that I like very much, but boy, are they wrong? All right, and then he goes on. What? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What are you talking about, man? So of all the so-called, So if all the so-called geniuses want to ask me, want to say, well, why didn't you blow up Soleimani? What?

All the so-called geniuses told you not to start this war with Iran, sir. I'm blown away. I did save some of these. I started watching some of them, but I was like, well, let's get some genuine reactions on this show. Also, he, the Soleimani has been dead for more than six years. It's not even, like, it's from first, it's from first time. Like, what are you? It's just remarkable because it's like he's arguing with him from the last four months where he's like, well, you want to keep doing this?

We're going to run out of oil. What are you talking about? And he's like arguing with everyone else with the reporter. It's wild because it's like, and because like who is he really arguing with? Because these are things, well, these are, because these are things that they all know and have talked about and have told him for months as well. Like this isn't new information. It's just information that he couldn't avoid by this point. Well, yeah.

Leave a comment, sir, about your favorite episode. Sir, are you listening, sir. We are your trusted advisors now, sir. I do want to highlight that like, because we're, he's being a hypocrite and he's, it's easy to make fun of him. But also, like, thank goodness he's finally doing it. There is no other option. Oh, yeah, the war needed to end.

This has to happen. So I kind of want to separate us from some of the people you might see on cable news who are from the Democratic side being like, this is a horrendous deal. And it's like a gift to Iran. No concessions. They didn't dis this. And the next question needs to be like, well, what would you prefer bombing for another six months and then being in the exact same spot? Like, they're using it fine as an attempt to hammer Donald Trump and make him seem weak and dumb. and that's fine, but also they're putting forth the argument that you wanted the war to continue?

Yeah, there's a very odd pickle they've gotten themselves into. Because also, you know, we talk about a lot of people in mainstream media, they like the war, and they like war with Iran, and they love the big beautiful bombs and the explosions and all that sort of stuff. And they also hate Donald Trump. And it is their job to sort of confront, you know, politicians with their hypocrisy and things to don't quite line up. There's a clip of, I think, Caitlin Collins,

talking somewhere from the GOP about Trump being like, well, of course they need some missiles. Again, completely contradicting everything he said for the past few months. But in response, she's like, wait, so you do think that they should have missiles and weapons? And it's this sort of like you don't want to imply that you think that they shouldn't. Like, it's odd because it seems like she could be arguing,

like, but wait, shouldn't they not have them? but what she's really doing is pointing out, like, but you, your entire party in position is that they shouldn't. Yeah, the entire GOP position, they're kind of split and we'll get to that. But like, the entire GOP position, if you're a Trump ally, is this is great. Well, yeah, like they have to be, Iran has to be able to defend themselves as a wild thing for them specifically. To hear from a GOP senator. Let's hear it from the big guy. So we'll be working on a parallel effort with the Gulf nations to address non-nuclear issues, such as the conventional ballistic missiles, which we'll be talking about, and support them. I mean, they have to have some because other people have some.

You've got to have some. Somebody said, you shouldn't give them one. I mean, I have guys. I like some of these guys. But I don't think they're smart. Sir, you shouldn't let them have them have any missile. I said, well, what am I going to do? Are they going to let Saudi Arabia have missiles, but they can't have them? Yes, sir. Kent doesn't work that way, you know? It doesn't work that way. And missiles aren't the problem.

Missiles, they hurt a little location, but they don't blow up the planet. I mean... I love everything about this. Go off, Parker. Tell us. I mean, it's... Because clearly, like, he's just... That whole thing is a riff. That's not in his...

Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Not prepared. He makes the exact argument that it's just like, well, then why shouldn't they have nuclear weapons? Oh, yeah. I mean, you can extend that argument. Yeah, I mean, my position is that if we have nuclear weapons, like, I really don't understand why Iran or North Korea shouldn't. Because we're pretty reckless when it comes to our use of, you know, we're the only country that's bombed someone with them.

Yeah. So, like, ideally, there'd be no nukes, but I get it if other countries are like, I think we probably need something to protect us. But the great thing here is that Iran probably knows now that it doesn't need nukes because it can bend us to its will by closing the straight-of-harmoos. So see? Easy is that. We taught them a lesson.

We taught them so many lessons with this. this incredible deal. We have raised their profile all over the world. They are a much richer nation. We've proven that there is no regime change coming. And we've destabilized the region and ruined our own relationships. So it's just such a win. It's just such a win for them.

And they're like kind of admitted. that even if the American government doesn't like the Iranian government, that Iran as an entity is not this, like, this singular evil that everyone has to confront, which is how not just the Republican Party, but to a certain extent, both parties have presented Iran. It goes back to like Axis of Evil's language from decades ago. Yeah, there's, I mean, I've still seen, like, Republicans and Democrats, like, yeah, there are mortal enemy. And this is, that we cannot have this. Look what we've given our mortal enemy. Well, sorry, folks. One of my favorite things from his speech was when he talked about, he's like, we dropped $10 million worth of missiles on them in the past, like, 48 hours

or something like that. And then, you know, it's like part of the deal is that we're paying to rebuild the country. So it's like, please stop destroying things. Please stop making it worse. I mean, do we want to like mention some of the stuff that's actually in this, alleged deal. In talking about this deal, this MOU, um, everyone in the administration was like, that's not true. This is a lie.

You're lying about what's in there. This is so dishonest. The fake news media and they're disgusting lies just like sending out all this. It's exactly what everyone was saying it is. It's exactly what it is. The parts that the United States is promoting as like these are big wins, which are things we already had, was Iran reaffirms it will not procure or develop nuclear weapons. I have to, I'm sorry, I have to pause on this. Yes. It's so funny that they made sure to include the word reaffirms. Like there's some things in this where it's like they really, really wanted to embarrass Trump in the United States by making sure that we know in writing, yeah, we'll say again like we've always said.

Boy, we will do it again. We will reaffirm that for you. Like we always have. I just, I have to. And again, the Iranian media is spinning it very differently. US agrees to allow Iran to have nuclear. Their nuclear program, it's legitimately says maintain the status quo of its nuclear program, which was to use it for enrichment for energy, which Trump yesterday was like, well,

It doesn't make sense to tell him not to do that. Of course, they need it. We all need nuclear energy. Which he either pretended that he had never said the opposite before or learned for the first time why that kind of logically makes sense. Sometimes that is true. I mean, it would be more clear if he said, like, not a lot of people know this, but you can use nuclear power for nuclear, like, not all people know that you can enrich

uranium for you nuclear power, yeah. The status is English. I definitely English. but the quo is Latin and it means the same. It means the same status. No one knows that but me. What else is in this deal? We're going to end sanctions.

We're going to unfreeze their assets, which again, Trump's like, well, what are we going to do? Keep it forever. Good point. It's their money. And then 60 days ceasefire to hammer out. The rest of the details, the straight will be open and mine's cleared. But then after 60 days, are they going to start charging a toll?

I believe the word fee is now being floated instead of toll. So we'll see. So that's something we'll see. But we don't know. They're going to hammer it out as our really great vice president has been talking about. It's more of a gentleman's agreement type of situation that they've said some stuff and they'll figure it out. I would like to see one more at least of Trump's responses, perhaps about the children that were killed. Oh, God.

You should watch that. The worst fucking... This was... In a speech where I agreed with the president a lot, this is not one of those moments. This is an absolute disgrace. Can you now say whether you will hold anyone in your administration accountable for the strike on a school that killed more than 100 children on the first day of the war?

No, if it was a fault, and as you know, that's under investigation, it's such a strange question to be asked at this state. Because you're talking about a long time ago, but nobody did that. that on purpose. I guess you'd have to say about them, what about the thousands of soldiers that they blew up when they opened their car door? What about the thousands of people that were killed by Iran?

No, mistakes are made. The war is nasty. But I know it's under investigation, and I could have a report for you tomorrow. I would ask Pete, I would ask Pete Hickset that question, because they have it under investigation, please. Ah. What an embarrassment. That report will never be released, obviously. It's been under investigation, but a report can be ready tomorrow.

Interesting. He's soft throwing Hegg Seth under the bus for the war crime. It's like, why are you asking that? That was so long ago, but also it's still under investigation. But also, no one did that on purpose. But how do you know that if it's still under investigation? Mistakes are made. How do you know it was a mistake?

Who made the mistake? If it was us that made the mistake, you're saying it wasn't a, determined yet that we did it. Question was not about whether it was like on purpose. On purpose at all. It would be great to know that, but that wasn't even the question. It was, will you admit that it was a mistake, which you don't need an investigation to say it's a mistake to blow up hundreds of children?

You don't need that at all. You just need to say, of course, that was a mistake. We wouldn't do that. Whoever did that, even if you're saying that's still under investigation, but in my mind, of course that's a mistake. That is a horrible thing to have happened. That was a long time ago. Sir, you're the most petty grievance-fueled person who ever lived. You hold everything with you from your entire life.

What are you talking about? That was a long time ago. It was a few months ago. Also, that was a long time ago. So you're saying this war was really long? I thought it was a short little excursion. That was a long time ago. So day one of the war that you started was a long time ago that we can't even talk about now.

Fuck that person. He's so disgusting. The way he talks is something else because you can see the wheels moving a little bit and they move slower than they used to. So instead of saying if it was our, fault. He goes, if there was a fault, which is a bizarre thing to say out loud. And then you can tell that he's wondering, should he attack this guy? He goes, what a strange question to ask. And you can tell he's about to go, like, you're disgusting person. Where are you from? Who are you with? And then he's like, that might be a bad taste on this wonderful day when I ended the war and a hundred plus kids

died. So I should be like, well, no, it's an investigation and there's an investigation. And you know what? What am I answering this question for? I hate this. Ask Pete Hegseth. He's the piece of shit you want. I'm just over here. Every, every, every aspect of this, just, just watching. I don't, I don't love that we bombed a children's school, obviously, but, but I do, I do love that the Trump's just, he's so over all of this. If it's not about the ballroom or the UFC fight, or painting the, you know, the reflecting pool blue, he just doesn't care about any of this. He's just, why are you asking me? If you asked him about, like, the like sconces that are going to go up in the ballroom.

He would go on for like 15 minutes, you know. But with this, he's just like, why are we, why are we so hung up on like, who did what? You know, one legacy. He's all, he wants to bowl right past all of that. He's, well, look, I don't know. I guess he could get much richer. There's a trillionaire that exists now, but he's profited very well. He's old.

He's tired. You know, maybe he's, yeah. I think he's just focused on legacy. He's like, I want the ballroom to exist after I'm dead. I want this, my name to be on things. And I want people to look at, I ended the war. I want people to, don't look behind the curtain anymore. Yeah, I want people to love my reflecting pool that's like turning into like Boba T slowly with like little fucking blue shit floating around in it.

Look, real quick on the, on the fucking pool, because we haven't done it. It was already upon. And scummy needed to be clean. So let's, it's not, that's not new. But the hilarious and frustrating part is quite simply a $2 million contract ballooning to $14 million because it only went to one contractor and it was his friend. And immediately a day lighter, it was back to what it was before. Now they're pouring hydrogen peroxide in or something.

I don't know. In those little gallon jugs too. Like what? This is just, it's so, it's just like a, if this was, this was, this. the TV show would be a funny sea plot that cousin Greg would be handling the fucking pool and they're like already

Craig's like oh no it's just yeah no it's like and and it only matters to me because I don't give a shit I've never been there like it only matters to me because you made such a big deal out of it of how you're the best at running stuff I've got the best coy ponds everywhere

and then the fish are all floating upside down you know like that's the thing everything you say you're really good at, it turns to shit. Yeah, it's just a really convenient metaphor that's the, like, the least offensive, like, of all the metaphors that are out there for what's going on. When it comes to the question about the kids' school blown up, they're such an easy answer. I can't say anything because we're still working, we're still investigating. Of course, If someone did something wrong, they'll be held accountable.

Next question. Like, the loss of those children's lives is a tragedy. Is a tragedy that, you know, a horrific offset of war, whatever, anything. You've heard him say, it's a horrible thing. Well, it's, you know, like, his war is nasty stuff. He's like, this war I started. It's really, like, whoever did this is a real piece of shit. Like, war is awful.

You know, I mean, Jonathan, there was an episode of this very show that I watched. where you at the very start of the war where you talked about how Trump just doesn't have it in him to pretend to care and that that's going to be his undoing in this. And it's true. I mean, you see it with this where he's just like, I don't really. Well, you know, oh, we're going to, we're going to like harp on all the way back to two months ago. You know, like. This is what I. He's already, yeah, his heart's never been in it.

The only reason he's ever wanted to be the fucking president is to get rid of his crimes and to make some money, et cetera. And he's over that now. He's through that part. And you're right. It's just he doesn't give a shit. And it's like funny when it's not about something so horrible. When people are asking him, oh, well, what do you say to all these Americans who are struggling who can't go to game five of the NBA finals? And he's like, what do you want me to say?

That's how life is for some people. Like, that's a very funny thing that he says. He's like, what do you want me to do about that? I guess with distance, you know, when the planes crashed and he's like, what do you want me to do? Look at the water. Like, he, like, he can't care. He can't. And he doesn't want to.

Does anybody think that this embarrassing disaster of an end to the war that he started will in any way influence him away from his, like, Cuba plans or these other things that he's been talking about for a long time? And he's like, that kind of fucking sucked. shouldn't do that maybe you know i guess we'll see how the next few weeks play out but less signaling of what's about to happen i i just think this has been such a disaster that there's not the will goodwill that he was hoping for like he they were trying to steamroll let's just boom boom boom let's do this let's take greenland too right like he's riding high for maduro but now it's like oh shit right but it's

not as simple as that, sir. And I do have a feeling. I don't know if it'll have stopped it. It'll stop it forever. But I do think that it has slowed the roll a bit. Like maybe November 5th once it doesn't matter anymore. Like that is what I am worried about backed into a corner. Nothing matters anymore, Trump to an extent.

And there will be like the highs of like, oh, he's like toast and he's running low on fumes. and he doesn't have any power anymore. But, like, backed into a corner, he's going to have to actually leave for good soon. He's capable of messing things up. He can always throw Marco under the bus about the Cuba stuff. And we don't need to show this clip because we're going to watch Ben Shapiro talk about it.

But Trump also soft-launched throwing JD under the bus for this disaster. One of my little conspiracy theories is that, because you would think, that, you know, as a president nears the end of his second term, he wants to help the next person get elected. You know, Obama wanted Hillary to get elected. Bill Clinton wanted Al Gore to get elected. You know, that's that's kind of, kind of how it goes. I don't think that Donald Trump really, like, I think that he is so self-centered that the idea of his movement moving on without him

makes him angry. It's the biggest heartbreak of his life. And so he's going to keep trying to undermine Marco Rubio and J.D. Vance so that the only possible thing to do for Republicans is, well, I guess we got to try to put Trump out there again. Like I really feel like that's what's happening. And I think it's great.

You're right. It's about he wants the attention. He wants it to be about him. and he will make it about him in any way that he possibly can. He is getting now a power trip out of which candidates he supports and, you know, playing people off of each other like that. Like, well, you pissed me off. You didn't do this thing for me.

So even I'm going to back this petapide, this actual pedophile or what have you. And that's all it's going to be about. Well, yeah, because it's not just like, because yes, he's, I'm MAGA and whatever. I say goes and I'm the king of the fucking world or whatever and he doesn't want anybody to steal spotlight but also I think he specifically

doesn't really like JD it seems like he does think he's kind he's not a likable person but he seems like he's kind of embarrassed by him and doesn't think he's so great so I think especially because it's J.D I think he's resistant to it

there's a story from this fucking book that we'll probably have to read about the the from haverman and uh and swan uh i think it's from that about basically like rubio and vance being at like a dinner like together and trump just like talking to people like who do you like who do you think who do you think is better marco or jd bore on the floor dinner and like it's just it's wild who's my error yeah i think 2028 is going to be so i mean 2027 when the primaries kick off because there's going to be like 30 Democrats running because they know this is the best opportunity maybe ever to become the president.

And it might just be J.D. running on the report. Like they know this is the sacrificial lamb. Someone is likely going to get trounced. Yep. But J.D. has to run. Like this is, you know. It'd be very weird if he didn't. Well, that's why he started floating the idea that maybe he wouldn't run in 2028 and save it for the time after.

but yeah maybe I don't buy it but like I do think they know that it's like gonna be a real tough hand to play I mean unless you know economy's fine like that's all anyone cares about right so the economy bounces back people don't hate all the stuff this administration did as much maybe they're not as behind the eight ball

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music video. You know, we gotta do more belabored music, like, where you're like, ugh, I smell a seed and spark. Can I play Ben Shapiro throwing JD under the bus? I've said many times, the president deciding to go into Iran and to hit nuclear facilities in Operation Midnight Hammer, and then to go after

Iran's ballistic missile facilities, nuclear facilities, Army, Navy, and Air Force in this current operation was the signal act of political bravery, perhaps of my lifetime. With that said, this MOU appears to be, just from the text, a disaster that does not achieve any of the actual signal goals that were set by the administration at the beginning. There were effectively five goals that were set by the administration at the beginning. One was ending the nuclear program, not just nuclear weapons, no nuclear enrichment, zero enrichment. That is not in the deal. Folicic missiles ended. That is not in the deal. And the

President today suggested that ballistic missiles should actually continue to be held by the Iranians, because the Saudis, our allies, also hold ballistic missiles. Then you have the support of terrorism. That is not part of the deal, anything that looks like an attempt to end terrorism. A permanent opening of the Strait of Hormuz toll-free. Not only is that not in the deal, the deal appears to have a provision allowing Iran and Oman to attempt to toll the straits after 60 days.

And then finally, the idea that Iran would receive some sort of sanctions relief after all of those things happen, we are already seeing from day one relief in their ability to ship oil out of Iran. In my opinion, the vice president of the United States, the chief negotiator on this particular project has not well served the president. I mean, he's right. He went through a lot of things. Could have just shown that. He's wrong about what he would prefer to happen.

But he's right about the outcome of the war. And wolf, it's not good. The goals in this whole war, obviously was like a bad idea. And it's just, it's such an interesting, like, position to be in. now. It was like, yeah, all that shit you're saying that you think is awesome sucks. And they fucked it up. Like, they didn't get the things that, yeah, it's, what a, what a guy. They're showing Trump holding the paper. Trump doing this, Trump doing that. He's talking about, this is an awful deal. This is a disaster. And then he's like, and I think the vice president,

J.D. Vance, really screwed this thing up. He said in that clip, even today, sorry, that's too low, Even today, President Trump was out there saying that they should have ballistic missiles. He said that, like, yeah, Trump's out there saying the things that I'm saying are bad. And you know whose fault it is? J.D. Vance. Yeah. What do you talk? Like, what do you, who do you think the president is?

Do you think he, just, just such a slimy little guy, very funny to watch him triangulate. Because also Matt Walsh today is like, man, Jadie's out there. He's doing such a great job. be so smart and articulate. What a great communicator. I love them. And it's just, again, that rift of like, either you're just Trump's sycophant forever and you just want Iran to be destroyed completely, which is clearly what Ben wants.

Or you know that, like, it's pivot time. We've got to pick a softer, a softer Trump. We should talk about J.D. Vance on TV. So Vance is both, like, defending this deal now and also saying some pretty. remarkable things to hear from anyone in the U.S. government ever telling like Bibi's cabinet basically not to bite the hand that feeds them. Like I would say like don't abandon your only ally when they're trying to help you. He told he was on, I always screw up his name. Ross, Ross, Ross, Duthat. How do we pronounce that? I'll redo it. Douth it. I thought it was,

thank you for saying it, Parker, because I was, I thought that. I think that's it. I don't He's the, he's the, he's the chunky, the, what's it, Chunky Reese Witherspoon guy, right? So, yeah, Vance was on, uh, Rouse, Rouse. One more time, here we go. Rous at. Ronda. Okay. Don't help. Vance was on Ross Douthat's New York Times podcast.

Yeah, you've seen people in their system, Ben Gavir and Smotrich, who've attacked the deal. And I guess my response to them would be, what is your exact proposal? And, you know, you're a country of of nine million people. You can't just kill your way out of solving every single national security problem that you have. Astounding to hear a U.S. President or vice president talk like that. Good point, but that's not who you've been for the last decade. They've, like, had people deported for saying things less than that. Not as bad as that.

Yeah. It is astounding. That is the right word to see the president or vice president saying something like that. It does show such. This week is just an about face, a total about face and everything that we have been doing for Israel for decades. Some of this is very interesting hearing say because they, yeah, they don't, they have to now. Like, what do you say? What do you do? Just lie. So I want to, I say that because amidst all these. kind of weird things that J.D.'s saying out loud. He's also lying a whole lot and being a slimy little scum worm. Um, and it is so frustrating to see him try to pretend to be any person. He's just not a person at this point. He's such a little, uh, fucking lying little freak. Even the day earlier, he's like, yeah, uh, the Obama nuclear deal allowed enrichment, but ours won't. The Obama deal gave them a billion dollars of American money.

Ours doesn't. That's not true. It's literally not true. Like, it's just like basic facts. You made the fucking deal. You're supposed to be the vice president. Obviously, you're lying. Obviously, also him saying that Trump has one of the highest IQs of any president in history.

That's absurd. Well, because this is all going on at the same time as J.D.'s book tour, because his book Communion came out this week. And he went on The View. He's been all over the place talking about. it and he tries to sell it on the view as like look 95% of this book isn't about politics like you don't like trump you could still like me and learn a lot about my faith and what a good person i am no one likes you even the president doesn't like you i'm sorry should you be doing a book tour right now no

that's okay so we'll we'll watch the clip this is so distaste like i find this really really gross every day every little interview he's there he's like buy my book and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah also like wherever books are sold it's really really gross i don't think this has ever happened during like an actual term where you're like maybe i don't know i'll look into it but like it's something that's happened during it while someone was actively in office there's a fucking war going on and you know there's there's that al gore book that sold one copy yeah it's just like Like this so transparent, like, example, like, here's who I am. I just need to please like me.

Please buy my book. I just, I want to be like a book podcast guy. I want to do this. I want to do the shows. I want to be a guy who does the shows. I don't want to be the president or the vice president. That's bullshit. I want to co-host Charlie Kirk's podcast for a living.

Like, I just hate it. Well, this is tough because he, he gets challenged here. And Whoopi Goldberg asks him. basically why is the administration so racist? What did black people do to this administration that has allowed it to really stigmatize folks of color? I'm talking about black history getting erased from public spaces. Black voter districts are being dismantled.

Black leaders are being sidelined from our ranks. Where do Americans of color fit in this vision? Because it doesn't seem like we fit. I think, Sonny, my view... And if I may, since October of last year, there's been something like 6,668 refugees allowed into the country. All but three were white South Africans. So, first of all, I'm very skeptical of that number

because we have a lot of different immigration pathways in the United States of America. But let me just address Whippie's point. Look at Washington, D.C. One of the most democratic and one of the blackest, by a share of population, blackest cities in the United States of America, has seen a radical decrease in violent crimes in sexual assaults and in murders.

We have tried to take the crime issue seriously in part because we believe everybody, whether you're black or white or rich or poor, deserves to live in a safe neighborhood. Why is the crime, where is the crime step in? This is not about crime. This is about... This is about human rights.

This is about human rights. Scumbag! Fuck that guy. Because there's so many people around the table asking questions, he kind of gets bailed out a little bit on really having to answer all of those questions because he's like, I dispute the refugee number. Okay, so you're just lying and saying that that's not true. And then he does the thing that Republicans do so much where he's like, hey, we're crime, black people, crime. And Whoopi Goldberg's like, what are you talking about? We never asked you about crime. You pivoted to talking about crime when posed with a question.

about black people. Oh, also in that, there was the moment where he was saying, look, like, whether you support us or whether you don't, no matter whether you believe or what your race is, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, there's a place for you in this country. And, you know, which is really interesting because just earlier this week, there was this Texas Tribune article. I'm not sure if you I saw it, but it was about conservative Muslims in Texas who went to the state GOP convention. And we're just repeatedly by multiple people told to leave the country, which is awful. But at the same time, it's like, I'm sorry that the hate club you tried to join also hates you. Yeah, they're like lepers in your face party kind of stuff.

Yeah, I mean, they can't even pretend to actually mean that sort of stuff. Like, of course everyone belongs. Yes, black history is being erased. There's so much reporting on that. You brag about it. You brag about it all the time. The president brags about it. There was a very explicit initiative at the start of your administration to get rid of that.

So he's lying, obviously. But also, later that day, he was on, I believe, Gutfeld or Fox and Friends. And he took the time to just talk about how Democrats are horrible people, That's the phrase he used. Democrats are, sure, they're horrible people. And then he said that Whoopi called him racist, which she explicitly made a point to say, I didn't call you racist. I'm asking about the specific thing.

He's just a liar. And he can't, like, contend with this stuff. Performing to different audiences. Exactly. He's a fake person. He's not a real guy. And he's got to go. he's got to get out of there.

Also, like, the follow-up has to be like, oh, so you think everyone belongs in this coalition? Do you agree with the president that Somali people are garbage and should leave? Do you agree with him that people who come from X, Y, and Z country, because he's listed a bunch, are garbage and they're horrible people, and they contribute nothing, and they come here and complain,

like Trump goes on these rants regularly, and he would sit there and be like, well, I think the president was just, He called for a complete and total shutdown of Muslims coming into this country. Yeah, until we can figure out what's going on. Oh, sure, yeah. I would like to play a clip of Vance on Gutfelds so we can see. Yes, please.

I want to see the code switching that he does. I don't know. The different, like, looking for a right phrase, but I think that might be it. Well, it's the same bit he does. So this isn't the one where he's saying, like, I'm surprised it was Sonny, who called me racist instead of. of whoopee. This is the one where he calls Democrats terrible people and does his little gratitude schick. It doesn't bother me when congressional Democrats disagree with our policies. It bothers me that they're just terrible people so many of them. But what really does bother me is that they

don't show gratitude for the United States of America. Disagree with our policies. But if you don't feel grateful to live here and for the people who made it possible, then what are you even doing being in public service, too many Democrats don't show appreciation for the country. Well, first of all, this like, this like dorky, like school marmary of like, do you need to show gratitude? You didn't say thank you, sir. Like that stuff is so obnoxious. And like they're the most ungrateful people in the world. On the point about gratitude, that just reminded me of the thing in the Oval Office with Zelensky, with the suit stuff.

Have you, have you said thank you once? It's like, yeah, you, you come off like a horrible dude, man. Like, who is just like, you. And he kind of does that same, did that same thing when he was talking about Israel, where he's like, don't bite the hand that feeds you. He does it all the time. It's exactly right. Everyone should always be showing gratitude to J.D. Vance.

That's what he wants. And he does it like, he's talking about the country and stuff. But really, he, like, he's an avatar for it. He wants, it's for him and his movement. and like his positions. Also, I would say that maybe if the president, the current president of your boss has been out there for a decade talking about how everything's fucking horrible in this country and we'd make it great again

because it's shit now. Is that grateful in the country? Also, if you do think that there are problems with the nation and you are in public service, it's probably to like fix those problems. And also, I don't think that, going out there and saying Democrats are horrible people and they're not grateful is a Republican vice president

trying to be bipartisan. I think that's actually not what happened. Absolutely. It's interesting. Interesting to see those clips back to back. And presumably this was the same day. Oh yeah.

Literally that night he went on. They called me racist and they're all fucking pieces of shit. He didn't like, he didn't get a But you're right. Everything you guys are saying about the gratitude about him and this attitude. And of course the hypocrisy, because as soon as he's not in office, he's going to be complaining about the Democrats rooting this country. And I'm embarrassed to be a part of this. Blah, blah, blah. And this like behavior policing that he's doing is like, here's how you should act. Here's how you should appropriately act. Is the very thing that I thought like the left was doing

that bothered everyone so much for a decade. Also, and to that, to that, point in that do that Rossi the Roussat interview um Ross brought up how you're like this is a Christian book and you're talking about Christianity and like you're nice now or whatever but the tone of the administration is pretty aggressive and cruel and in response he's like I really kind of this sort of like tone policing stuff like tone that's just a way to like he's doing the opposite of it he yeah loves to tone police people but as soon as someone talks about that in relation to him or the administration. He's like, total arguments are ways of frankly, policing working class ways of communication and covering them in elite preferences.

Dance. That's what you're like, it's just so frustrating. Um, fake cosplaying guy. Uh, also he says fundamentally too much in these interviews. I've really noticed that. It's really, really frustrating. Um, there's so many things. We're not even going to get to all of them. He was asked about how long will it take Iran to reconstitute its nuclear program? And he's like, well, that's a hard question, you know. They need a little classified. But fundamentally, you know,

it's going to cost a lot of money without referencing the fact that they're going to get hundreds of billions of dollars for a reconstruction. So maybe that's where they're going to get the fucking money. But then he's like, you know, and I, you know, could be years and years, years, but I, you know, I can say

that it won't be during this administration. We're kicking that. So you don't care about two years from now? it's absurd. And there's like every every interview. There's like nine things he does like that where it's like, dude, you're so full of shit and we're not going to say

all of them. We should move on before Cody has a heart attack. I, this guy, he... No, it's wildly frustrating. And it is also one of those things where we can spend all day pointing out the hypocrisies and the bullshit and comparing to this to that. And it doesn't change. One day it'll matter. And like, it won't happen in this administration

Well, that works with that audience because what they care about is what happens that they under Trump's admit it. As soon as he's out and something happens with Iran, it's the Democrats' fault, not the situation that they created. Of course not. They're trying to blame Obama for the reflecting pool. I don't understand that. I just keep seeing it. I'm just like, I don't know what you're talking about. Blaming Biden doesn't play well because people like Hunter Biden now on Twitter, you see.

They should have let Hunter loose during the campaign. They really should have. Hunter and Waltz. Another error. Go out there. Another error on the Dems part. Hunter, who knew? It was locked and loaded.

I wonder if things could have been different if Kamala Harris said half the things that Trump and Vance have said in the last 24 hours. If she said them, maybe this is a very different. I mean, I know. That's a really important point because, yeah, would have. Made some amount of difference. I don't know if it would have gotten you fully over the finish line,

but it definitely would have made a difference. And not to come across as thinking Donald Trump and J.D. Vance are doing the right thing. They've been backed into a corner. But the things that have been said in the last 24 hours are the right things to say, are the right things to do, to tell Israel to stop, to acknowledge that, to reaffirm their right to have X amount of nuclear enrichment Yeah, war was bad

We should end the war It's good that war's over Like, you know Cody, you should prepare yourself And your constitution For the prospect of J.D. Vance Briefly being the president Sometime between now and early 2029.

That is what I was thinking as well. Okay. I mean, you know what? It'll be a real bittersweet day. As soon as you remember, like, oh, but then that guy? Right. And maybe on Kalshi, we can bet on how long it is after it happens that until you recognize that J.D. Vance will immediately become the president.

And what kind of buffer do you get? What's scary about J.D. Vance is how little backbone he has at all, of course. But right now he's Trump's lackey. but President J.D. Vance is like the tech boys lackey, you know. There's no low that's too low for him to snivel through or whatever. Like Donald Trump. Yeah, he's a little worm. He's a little wormy guy. He's the warmiest guy. He's already out there, you know, doing defense for AI, although also calling AI a fundamentally

communist technology because he's stupid and says whatever he wants. Wait, what? Yeah, he did say that. He says it's a fundamentally communist technology because it can surveil you, which is exclusively communist sort of thing. His surveillance is his friend Peter Thiel communist. Absurd. Although I do want to like briefly, I've been really down on JD and you're right.

He's probably going to be the president very briefly. So I do want to like give him credit where it's due. Apparently, J.D. has apologized for his. his childless cat lady comments in his book that he's trying to sell that those people won't read because he's a coward and a little cynical worm. Oh, I didn't give him credit. Oh, well. No. Fuck him. You tried. You really did try. You gave it the old college try. Before we go, Parker, you should definitely plug your stuff. But what have you been working on lately? Is there anything interesting that, you know, even hyper-focused on or what have you?

Yeah. So, well, this isn't something I'm working on, but just something that I saw today that I haven't stopped being able to think about. It's a financial Times article written by Hillary Rodham Clinton. The headline is the world may not like Trump's Gaza plan, but there is no alternative. And I haven't read it yet because I know it's going to make me mad. So there's that. But what I've been working on, I've been paying a lot of attention to this sort of weird right-wing backlash to Pride Nights at baseball games.

And like how quickly, like Major League Baseball was like, hey, guys, if you're going to protest Pride Nights at games, like just wear your normal hat. Don't wear the rainbow hat. It's totally cool. And you have like Josh Hawley writing letters. to the league being like, we will drag you in front of Congress because you are religiously, you're discriminating against players for writing Bible verses on their hats. And I've just been thinking about how their whole,

like, everything that they've always said about cancel culture, you know, stuff like that. It's like, it just doesn't really exist in the way that they've said that it does. And obviously that's been true for a long time. But I saw a clip of, the office actor, Rain Wilson, on Fox News talking about how you couldn't make the office today because it's a, because of political correctness and stuff like that. And I was like,

thinking of myself, like, when was the last big, like, instance of someone getting like fired for their conservative views? And it's like not really not much in the past five years. And even then, And even that was not what it seemed. Yeah. Someone getting canceled means that they find a whole other audience. You know, like you get another job. Louis C.K.'s back, baby. You know, like.

Yeah, it was like, yeah, like, I was like, okay, well, like, what's the community? Shane Gillis. It was like, yeah, he got fired from SNL because of old podcast clips. And I was like, that was pretty good. That was seven years ago. Yeah. It was a long time ago. It's a lot.

had a very successful career. He's hosted SNL since then. And like shows don't get canceled for that sort of stuff. No, no. What show has been canceled because Netflix's algorithm says. Right, exactly. Also, maybe there's some like sketchy, not even sketchy stuff, just sort of like some uncomfortable stuff in the first season of the office.

But the point is that everyone around the guy thinks it's uncomfortable and bad. So it's just an absurd claim to make. It's surprising for Rayne Wilson, actually. The funny thing is he's not even the first person from the. office to say you couldn't make the office today. Mindy Kaling said that like four years ago. You really could though. You really could. You absolutely could. People this is the show that people watch to fall asleep to. It is not. And it's also it's lifted up as like pretty like corny millennial stuff like at this point. And also I just like the phrase is so funny. Like if this office was on

today and it was brand new and it was the way it was, there would be people who wouldn't get the fact that like, oh, they're like lifting up Michael Scott as this like really great boss. Like, well, no, they're not. You just don't understand TV. There would be people who don't get it, but it would still be made. It might be criticized and eventually canceled for ratings, but it would get made. But also the office was on like NBC. It wasn't on HBO.

So you could have said, oh, you can't make the office in America with their rules on broadcast TV because the office UK has a bunch of stuff. that they couldn't put in the office US because they had different like broadcast rules for television. So you were fine with that censorship. You were fine with not doing with Michael Scott not doing some of the stuff that David Brent did, right? But like that didn't bother you.

But now it wasn't a talking point at that moment in time. It wasn't a political theater. Well, also Rain Wilson wasn't going to like say like actually, you know, he's going to make a big deal and cost himself his career. Yeah. I mean, you can't put. staplers and jello anymore because of woke. No. Can't do it.

But yeah, so I've been thinking about that. I don't know. Maybe I'll write something about it. But if I do write something about it, it'll probably be at my newsletter, the present age, which you can find by going to readtpa.com. Before we go, you did bring up the giants and the hats and stuff. I would be remiss if I didn't relay this from our editor. Nick, who had this to say about the situation. The Giants have been dog shit all season, and the pitchers doing the anti-pride protest have

been mediocre at best. Stop riding on your goddamn hats and try to win some fucking games. Yeah. Was his position. Shut up and play. Is Nick's doing it? Shut up and play. Shut up and play as Nick's.

Thank you, Nick. I mean, Clayton Kirshaw on the Dodgers, like, a year or two ago, did the same thing with his hat, but he's Clayton Kirschaw. and very good. And so no one gave him a hard time about it. That's the thing. You can't be that bad and also like this. Try to get attention and distract people.

It's pretty wild. Also, San Francisco, like, it's not really the place to pull this shit. Three more things on Vance real quick. Nope. All right. Thank you so much for joining us Parker. It's always a delight to have you. Check us out.

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