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Episode Date: October 21, 2025Hi. In today episode of Even More News, Katy, Cody and Jonathan talk about the large protests that took place across the country and Trump and friends' not so measured responses to ...them. They also discuss the continued bombing of boats in the Caribbean and the pardoning of George Santos. As always, we recorded right before that big thing that happened.NOTE: Monday’s AWS outage impacted our ability to record video so today’s episode is audio-only. We’ll be back with video next time, assuming they fix the cloud.Pluto TV. Stream Now. Pay Never.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hi, friends. Today we are talking about the no king's protest and Trump's shitty response to it, pun intended.
The continued bombing of boats in the Caribbean and pardoning of criminals.
Oh, hi. Hello.
Welcome back to even more news, the first and only news podcast.
My name is Kate Stoll.
Wow.
Official.
Hello, Kate.
I'm Cody.
I'm Code.
Hi.
Hello and welcome.
And hi.
and good morning and afternoon
and that's the only
good evening to you as well
Jonathan is also here
hi my name's
solid always the same
John the news yes
it happened it's going on it's ongoing
there were protests on Saturday
no king's protests across the country
estimate of crowds are between
and a half million and potentially
up to 8 million making them
larger than last time
potentially the largest
single day of protests
since Earth Day
1970. Earth Day 1970.
And we know that one worked. That helped. That
saved the earth. Yeah.
We did it, folks. Yeah, before we
talk about some of the reactions
I
because boy, they were plentiful and weird.
so many different angles trying to be different ways
they're trying to frame this as nefarious or lame or fake
but it isn't fake this happened
and we should all take a little bit of
solace in that that there are so many people
that agree with us that recognize the horrors
that are doing everything they can to stop it
even in small communities I'm in L.A. right now
but still my little mountain town showed up
And every time in the face of overwhelming propaganda and bad faith framing of what's happening, people are showing up.
And it's very brave and it's very beautiful.
And we should feel good about that.
And also it's crazy what happened online.
Sure.
The president.
And it's good to get out there.
And I saw, you know, you see a lot of people like, what is this even about?
What are you even trying to do?
What is this is to accomplish and stuff?
And I think, uh, there's some frustration like, well, like, what now? Like, you went out there. Okay. Uh, but I also
saw a lot of people like a lot of, uh, a lot of DSA members and people were like, yeah, I went and I talked to
the libs and they were like, what do we do now? And so we like told them. We like started going out and
like helping them organize and telling them, oh, you can do this. You can join this group and do this.
And I think people are, they're out there because they want to be able to do something, but they don't know
what to do and it was nice to see some people sort of instead of sort of dismissing the whole thing
is like what a waste of your time like going out there and engaging with people and trying to get
them more involved was nice to see yeah it's worthwhile and again I think it's worthwhile
even the fact that you show up or see the pictures however you're participating maybe you can't
physically be there but knowing that so many people are on your side
and that you're not alone is very valuable whether or not this physically like actually changes
something that's happening at the moment it's about strength of the president he was always going to
be the president it's not that i'm expecting oh all of a sudden never mind we've changed your minds
but it's about a show of force it's about saying we don't have an election right this minute but
we're coming and we're paying attention and we're not letting you just i want to acknowledge as well that
there are people who have been out there consistently outside the ice facilities in many cities
across the country. I think this is a different thing because I don't expect most of the No King's
protesters to do that. A lot of these people are older. They are not physically capable
or, you know, personally willing to sacrifice the way some of these people are sacrificing
out there. I don't think that diminishes what the, I don't think it diminishes the value of seeing
millions of people, you know, connecting DSA out there, recruiting people and getting people interested.
I don't think that cheapens the value, but I also want to acknowledge that, you know, the next day
and the day after that and the day after that, people are outside these ice facilities protesting what
they're doing. Of course. I mean, there's a place for everything. I don't love.
virtue signaling or the whole like oh you guys show up for just this one day people are doing
what they can and that's a big deal and um yeah of course you want continued effort and pressure
could do without the brunch signs we got to stop doing that yeah we could do brunch signs like i should
be a brunch type thing i just thought we were like over that i thought it's been like it's been years
people were doing that it's cringe but also who am i to judge cringe um i i don't know i don't take
I get it, I get it, I get it, but I'm here for everybody that's showing up.
Oh, yeah, you know.
You know.
But yeah.
Let's retire that one, at least.
So before we talk about the president's reaction, I do want to read this tweet from
Megan McCain that I think is indicative of the way a lot of conservatives felt.
Megan McCain tweeted, I don't understand how Trump is a king when he won every single swing
state, the electoral college, and popular vote in a Democratic election.
Shut up, Megan.
Okay. It's not it's not that people can't win an election and then attempt to become a dictator. It's not the election that's making him the dictator. It's the fact that he's levying tariffs without consent of Congress, not following the laws that Congress has sent, blowing up boats in the middle of the ocean.
Without the consent of Congress.
Ignoring federal judges, ignoring rule of law, shutting down the government.
refusing to come to the table
to negotiate with Democrats.
We could continue,
but you guys all know.
Yeah, it's a very,
it's,
there's like a few,
there's a few types of reaction
and that was a big one is
pretending.
They're pretending to not understand.
Like, of course,
they understand like,
well, yeah,
you like think he's like
acting like a dictator.
So you have like a short phrase.
Like there's no like,
this is the protest.
against the duly elected Donald Trump, who we disagree with and his authoritarian actions.
Like, no, just call it no kings.
And the end.
They understand, but they need to pretend like it doesn't make sense.
Like, these people, like, you're just, like, overreacting.
He was elected.
Yeah, you can get elected and you can do authoritarian things.
You called Obama a king when he was the president.
So you know.
No matter what these protests were named.
or how they were framed you're going they're going to find some talking point to
delegitimize it that's all this is uh yeah they shared uh there's a there's a this one
video in particular i think it might be from boston huge huge huge crowd and then everyone was like
this is fake and then everyone else is like no it's not and then they're like i can't believe
you're sharing this fake video but it's not or this thing from 2017 but it's not and like not
that that doesn't happen during these
sort of protests, but like that
specifically is not, and you can, like, every
single Republican, like, Congressperson
is like, you're, like, the
Ted Cruzes of the world, like, I can't believe you're dishonestly
sharing this video. It's real, man.
It's okay. Also,
what about the fact that they would
dishonestly share
videos of, I mean,
whatever, who fucking cares? But
they share shit all the time
that's supposed to be deceptive about
Trump's rally sizes or his inauguration at it's just like come on you don't give a shit you're just
doing your best to de legitimize it delegitimize this also like you said it wasn't fake but they
were throwing everything at the wall again it also feels like deja vu it feels as though it doesn't
feel it is as though every time there's a protest they like to pick a picture of a bunch of old white women
or older white women and say, oh, so is there nobody under the age of 50 at these things?
Yeah, dude, you took one picture.
But also, where is that place from?
So what?
This is a group of people that are together.
This is a community.
What are the demographics of that town?
My town in the mountains?
Yeah, it's a lot of older people.
There are a lot of older people at those rallies.
But you look at downtown L.A.
And it's a completely different demographic.
So shut the fuck up, you dummies.
Oh, yeah.
And there's so, I mean, there's so many examples.
of people like oh look at like all these like old white people here and you're like you're in a
town of like 1500 people you're this is a picture of half the town like what do you what do you mean
it's so dismissive but like proving that like there are a lot of people out at the same time
it's just dismissive because they're like who cares what a bunch of old white people think
that's your base man you should care what a bunch of i mean most old white people still vote
Republican. These are the group of old white people who don't. All people vote. All people vote.
Old people vote. Okay. Are we radical violent extremists? Are we old housewives, old white women?
Are we retired white people that look just like you? Who is the threat here? What is it? What is the
narrative? Then of course there is that paid protesters. This Eric Schmidt tweet. Senator Eric
Schmidt. The No Kings Day protests are an incredible example of how AstroTurf the left is.
Nothing about this was grassroots or organic. It's funded by billionaires, promoted by million
dollar ad buys, and organized by some of the most powerful left-wing groups in America.
And it's just a bunch of like old people with nothing to do. And it's a bunch of young
antifa types who are there to like kill us all. If you want to talk about astroturfing by billionaires,
about we start with Elon Musk, who wasn't even hiding his attempts to pay for people to show up,
paying people to vote for Donald Trump.
What are you talking about, my man?
He did do that.
Everything, I mean, everything, every accusation is confession.
They don't understand and they can't comprehend the idea that like, no, people wanted to go out and, like,
express their anger and frustration because they believe in stuff and they wanted to do that.
They don't need to be paid.
I saw people like, oh, they're paying, they're like spending millions of dollars on this.
Like, how much do you think they're paying these people?
Like, 20 bucks?
50 bucks.
Okay.
What?
And then it's like, it's, I also saw like people like, oh, they've nothing to do.
All these like old retirees.
They don't have, they don't have grandkids.
to spend on the weekend it's Saturday it's two hours it was two hours what do you mean they they did
that for two hours of their time no a protest and the numbers that it draws only matters if you don't
advertise it at all if you don't tell anyone about it happened organically what so people just kind of
meet up and go to a place like it's the stand like no you're going to let people know that this
thing is happening but no that means it's fake yeah the only other time like i'm thinking of the
the Muslim ban
impromptu
go to the airport
protests like that was that kind of thing
but also it's okay
you can plan protests for now
I guess
yeah for now
should we look at the president's reaction
yeah real quick before we
before we do
because we don't need to talk about
the specific guy
there's a just all these like
right wing influences are just so like
they just post whatever it doesn't matter
it's all contradictory
you show you uh share a bit of big video of like thousands of people and you're like this is fake
but then like 20 minutes later they share another one and it's like so there are all these people
uh here i'm here to read this out loud you know it's the strangest thing i don't remember seeing
the same crowd of liberals rushing down to help us during the months after hurricane helene why is
that so like first of all so like is there a lot of people or is there not a lot of people are
you mad that there are a lot of people or do you think it's fake that there's a lot of people
what do you want them to do also if thousands and thousands of people went down there
after the hurricane that would be very dangerous young man I don't think you understand like
how these things work you're not supposed to do that there were people who like volunteered to
help but like did you want a huge crowd of people to go down and just like be there and like
suck up resources and crowd the streets this is it's just silly that's all silly it's
It's, we shouldn't even be talking about this.
We should talk about the president, the president, what he posted and said.
This is one of the wildest things an American president has ever publicly done in terms of messaging.
This is also amidst the White House and Vance and Trump also just sharing a bunch of photos of themselves as Kings, by the way.
So there's that.
There's the all day just being like, actually, yes, kings.
we are, uh, gotcha. Are you triggered? Um, and then this, of course.
I'm a little triggered.
He did it.
It works.
What a, what the fuck?
What a disgusting old man?
You're the president.
You can't be doing that.
Obviously you can because you're the king or whatever.
And I'm not like triggered, but like, man, it makes me mad actually.
And I'm okay.
I'm okay saying that it makes me mad.
Yeah, it's fine for you to own that emotion.
It works.
It's so fucking frustrating.
I feel like I walk around.
trying to be so self-protective of my little sensitive heart and trying to pick what things
to be incensed about and the president's social media platform I mean just the stuff that they
post is so fucking frustrating and this one got me it's like you clown you childish buffoon you
what are you 12 the person making your AI videos are big balls it is the everyone's 12 this isn't
funny this isn't anything interesting it is a disgrace and i don't think it works i think it works for
some subset of people online but this is the shit that's like i mean it does work for some people
but just your average person you're like he did what uh if you're listening and you don't know
what we're talking about somehow he's flying uh like a jet like top gun in a jet uh and
donald trump the president is flying the jet and then he unleashes a torrent of uh liquid
excrement onto the No King's protesters in some sort of weird AI slop in New York City.
Yeah. And one of them is like a person, like a person, like a huge, a real person. A real person.
Harry Sisson, he's like a Democratic influencer debate type guy. He's out there doing doing his thing.
And he's a real guy. And he's like front and center getting shit piled on him by
the president? Literally he posted, can a reporter please ask Trump why he posted an AI video of
himself dropping poop on me from a fighter jet? That would be great thanks. And so vice president
J.D. Vance responded, I'll ask him for you, Harry, because he too is 12 and he has this
just like intense desire to be liked by the crowd that is going to like that. I
It's just, it's the most consistent double standard in American politics that Trump supporters must be revered and respected and understood and you can't say anything bad about them as a group or a subset of a group, but it is totally fine for the president of the United States to say I'd really like to unleash my or our collective shit all over anyone who doesn't like me. That's definitely fine. Nothing's coming out normal of his body.
Yeah, no.
You don't get that consistency from a healthy diet.
Must be the Vax.
Must be the Vax.
Which he gets.
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We talked about this a little bit late last week.
The U.S. is blowing up more boats.
We're still blowing up boats in the Caribbean.
There are seven now that we have done that too.
For one of the earlier ones, we blew up the boat, we meaning they,
and there were a few survivors
and we took those survivors
and instead of executing them on the spot
because that's legal
and they're narco-terrorists, right?
Apparently that is, yeah.
Right, we repatriated them
to their home countries of Colombia and Ecuador
instead of trying them for a crime
because again, the administration's justifications
is these people are terrorists
and it is okay for the U.S. military
to kill them on site.
Yet they want them to go back and do it again.
and have we seen any evidence thus far
of any of these boats
one of them seems to have contained
some amount of drugs
from what I understand but I haven't seen
they have presented zero evidence
to the American people or to Congress
which is you know rankling some of them
blah blah blah blah blah
they presented some evidence
occasionally that they did blow them up
they love sharing the videos
Pete Hague Seth over there
sharing his uh his little videos he loves he loves being the war guy um but we're very anti-war
but he loves being the war guy they keep saying this jd said it as well um that he doesn't care
what happens to them because they're narco terrorists uh first of all wait you don't care again
you're going to send them back so they do it more what do you there it doesn't make any sense
no it's there there's it's evidence in court that they are not what you say if there was
a court case of this, which there should be.
Like, letting them go is, I'm surprised that they did.
I'm surprised that they didn't grab them and make some shit up.
I know.
Like they two with Kilmara, Breggo Garcia and other people.
The boat that we, meaning they, blew up yesterday, the administration says that those were
people connected to the Colombian rebel group known as the ELN, which I did not know we
were in an armed conflict with until Hegsef announced it.
It's whoever.
It's whoever, actually.
Because also, they keep using the, they keep using the term narco-terrorists to describe any
of these people.
That's a really specific term that is usually reserved for, like, narco-terrorists and, like,
drug cartels who, like, do terrorism.
But they seem to be using the term to mean, like, any drugs, potential drug smuggler or, like,
drug dealer, which is not how the term is used. Again, it's what we always talk about. We're like,
they just label terrorists, uh, military aged men, whatever it is to justify this thing that they're
doing. One of these boats turned out to be Colombian, but did they intend it to be, uh, that
target? To me, it feels a little bit like, oh, we got a wrong boat, but now we're going to create a
world where now the focus is also Colombia. But then the other, which one of them was actually
putting out a distress signal? One of the boats in the last couple of
That was the Colombian.
It was the Colombian one.
Thank you.
In the middle of September.
The one that they said was a Venezuelan narco terrorist was Colombian fishermen who had, yeah, were asking for help.
Sending up a distress signal.
And I know that we mentioned this last week, but let's be clear, and I'm not speaking for all of these boats.
Go for it.
Because I don't know.
It's a big soup of misinformation and lack of proof.
But at least some amount of these seem to be very.
clearly just fishermen, just people doing their jobs. And now people are afraid to do
their jobs because the United States is a terrorist organization. And I just need to
restate that. We, the president, vice president, are like, yeah, don't go, don't go fishing
for a while. And to be honest, I know that this is becoming more and more of a mainstream
news story and more people are paying attention to it. But it's been happening in
the wings kind of off stage, so to speak. There's so much happening that I do believe that
there is a sizable portion of the American population that does not understand that this is even
happening. Yeah, and it's very clearly just sort of inching or, I don't know, footing, yarding
closer and closer to what they really seem to want, which is some sort of reason to, I don't
know if they want to do regime change or just like invade or they're looking. I know they're looking at
the land, uh, according to, uh, Trump. I is so, it's, you know, they're, they're itching for
something and. But this is all also part of project 2025. There is, uh, you know, a section. And
they talk about going into South America and, and doing stuff like this. So it's not out of
left field if you're paying attention. But anywho, what else we got? Uh, so George Santos had
served former congressman, George Santos. You remember him. It's not his name. I can't remember his real
name. It is his name, but it wasn't his name. Anyway, he served 84 days in prison, and then President
Trump commuted his 87-month sentence. What did he do? Fraud and wire fraud and he was a con man.
Yeah, he like conned a bunch of like old people and like with dementia and like just like scammed a bunch of
He spent his campaign contributions on personal stuff.
He set up a fake, what, pet nonprofit and spent all that money.
No, wired fraud and identity theft.
He's a con man.
But President Trump said he always voted Republican, so got to let him out for him.
He did say that was the reason, didn't he?
He's a loyal, he's a loyal guy.
That's all that matters.
and he says he's devoting his future to prison reform
because did you know that prison's real bad
George I'm sorry I don't believe you
I would like to have a conversation with that man at some point
not like online I just am so curious
how deep does the grift go how deep are you he'll come on the show
he wants to be everywhere he was on TV this weekend
thanking the president he went on Fox and Friends weekend
Santa's on the show. I'm no interest in providing him. I'm joking. I know. That's why I said it doesn't
have to be on camera or as an actual show. I mean, he'd probably still be the same way too. It'd be
frustrating because he's like such a he's one of those like, oh, you're like a liar. Like it's not
like, oh, you're like a congressperson and you do your little lies. Like no, you are like it's in
your bones. Like you can't not lie. You have your. I guess one of the reasons Trump likes him and
the Republican thing, but he would probably just keep going, keep lying, keep lying.
And, you know, I alluded to it, and we're going to keep saying it until it happens, which
it will, but it really does seem like he's just like, eventually, you're going to be okay
with me pardoning my good friend, Galane, for her very, very horrible crimes.
It'll be an official, I wish her well declaration letting her out.
We wish lots of people well.
I don't know if that would go over so well.
I mean, no, it wouldn't, but you're right.
I feel like that's what we're inching towards, but I don't know.
I mean, she's already in a much cushier setup than she was before and getting special treatment reportedly in club.
Is that the one they call club fed?
Yeah.
It's cute.
Cute little man.
It's still prison.
And then she had this meeting, like, she got to have a meeting with an unknown person.
Do you guys read about this?
No.
He's from the Independent.
Mystery visitors plunged Gielaine Maxwell's Texas prison camp into lockdown as inmates
complaint of preferential treatment report says.
So yeah, she just gets visitors and it disrupt, like they have to shut down the rest of the
prison for her visitors.
Very strange.
That's absurd.
I mean, it's what Trump said.
It's just all about loyalty.
If you're loyal, if you kiss the ring of the, well, I guess the right word for
that.
So I kissed the
what could
what's like a good like a quick
short term
for it's like not a
king I'm looking for king
I was doing a bit
I was like what we're doing I know
but I didn't know where you're going with a bit
and I kept wanting to offer something
but I was like he's got it.
It's fine.
I'm tired.
It's yeah it's just if you kiss the ring
and you say thank you sir
then he will
provide
he'll provide
it's uh it's mob rules
it's uh you know she follows the rules
never rat on your friends always keep your mouth shut
right uh unfortunately
he probably didn't watch the end of good fellows
which will hopefully
who has the time
um also um
uh speaking of uh this I guess
um still waiting on that congresswoman
to be sworn in
uh
yeah my
Mike Johnson was asked about it earlier today, and he said, well, instead of doing TikTok videos, she should be serving her constituents.
Well, she's not sworn in yet, Mike, so maybe you should do that.
And he's so, it's just so transparently full of shit constantly.
Oh, speaking of shit, he was asked about the video, the Trump video, about pooping on all the Americans in the country.
He said, you can.
argue he's probably the most effective person who has ever used social media he's using satire
to make a point he's not calling for the murder of his political opponents well that's not really
what's satirical about that yeah so this is something they don't understand what satire
i want to see we've talked about more of we've talked about this but just like this they say this
all the time like he's making a point he's doing satire explain it what what's the point explain the
point he can't say it he needs to he needs to obfuscate like well he's just making a point moving
on well what's the point that he wants the shit on everybody people well you know what i think we've done
it i think i think we thought we waited through some of the the shits do we've been triggered
we've talked about the news also what we love you very much triggered i mean much
