Some More News - Even More News: Trump's Latest War Crime Threats

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

Hi. On today's episode of Even More News, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan discuss Trump's latest threat to commit war crimes in Iran, the confusing story of the missing U.S. pilot, and why NASA miss...ions to space still have the capacity to inspire awe, despite all the other news.As always, we recorded right before that big thing that happened.PATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comYOUTUBE MEMBERSHIP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/joinSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, hi. Today we talk about Trump's Easter threat, the story of the missing American pilot, and why space is so freaking cool. Hello, welcome back to even more news, the first and only news podcast. Hazaah. Haza. I'm Katie. Stoll. There we go.
Starting point is 00:00:34 That's the name of you and the name of me is Cody Johnston. Hello. It's the name of thee. Jonathan is also here. Hi. Just get that out of the way. Hi. It's now just such a burden for you.
Starting point is 00:00:49 No, but it's not. We just have to mix up the energy every week. I was discussing with my wife this weekend how the three of us should all have like plots next to each other. And your epitaph, Katie, should say, we loved you very much. And then Codies would just say much. And then mine would just say, but my name is. is also here and then the grave. You don't even get a high?
Starting point is 00:01:11 You don't even get you to say hi? I guess I could say hi as well. Jonathan, how did your wife react to that? Because I think it's romantic for us. Oh yeah, very romantic. I was really professing my love for this podcast. No, she found it mildly amusing. Oh, she found it in my notes, in little drawings,
Starting point is 00:01:35 and then she confronted me about it. She's like, what is this? And I was like, okay, but you have to see that it would be cute and get over it. And then, you know, but I'm sure my wife and I will be buried Burns and Smithers style, like compressed together. Well, personally, I feel very comforted by that because I have been racking my brain about where I was going to be buried someday. So now have you solved it. Problem solved. I'd love to just chit chat with my friends.
Starting point is 00:02:02 But I think there's news because there's always, there's always, more of it. The president There's always even more of it. Nope. And oh. Oh, you stopped paying attention on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Oh yeah, I saw some random tweet just say it and I was like, I believe that. And then I just went off and had a bender and here we are. It's going to keep happening until it happens for real, you know. You know, just when it's the beginning of the month
Starting point is 00:02:30 and he needs whatever his little treatment is, you know, it has to be more than like three days because he disappears for three days pretty frequently. And it's just odd because every other second of every day he's on the television. He can't just terrorizing my brain. There wouldn't stop letting us know that he exists. Right. Clinton, it disappears for three days.
Starting point is 00:02:53 No one cares because he will do that. Being a president or whatever, yeah. Or, you know, but. I don't know that the breathless watching where the president is at every moment dynamic happened. well, one, before Twitter, but before Biden in the same way. So they've kind of set the tone for... Yeah, I mean, it helps. Why have we seen them next amount of days?
Starting point is 00:03:16 Because he's, again, needs your attention constantly. Is hated by many. More than most, more than any. More than any person on the planet. I think so. Currently living. And he's all so old as shit and clearly dying. So, you know, we weren't like, oh, my God, Obama is like really losing a step.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Like, he's, you know. He tweeted a Sunday Easter Sunday message. And it was unifying. So we know he is alive. I mean, maybe it was Stephen Miller tweeted it. Yeah, so the Easter Sunday message from the president is another deadline, another threat. It says Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day, all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Open the fucking straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch, praise be to Allah, President Donald J. Trump. I thought this cannot possibly be a real tweet. And it was like, look at all these clowns retweeting a fake tweet. Oh, my God. That was my thought process. Oh, my God. It is real.
Starting point is 00:04:28 The fucking with the apostrophe see it was odd. He's not really done that. So that seemed a little like, well, who's doing this? Praise be to Allah's, I don't even, so it's, it's, it's bizarre and like, it seems, again, it seems like a handler being like, man, they'll get a fucking, they'll get a kick out of this, that kind of thing. Not, and he, I don't know if it's necessarily thinking like that. I mean, it's definitely meant as a taunt, but if you imagine Obama posting Praise Be to Allah
Starting point is 00:04:58 on Easter, I mean, the country would burn to the ground. Yeah, it's crazy. There's also, I saw, there's a clip of Jake Tapper reading it. I don't know if you saw that. And he, like, he's about to read it and he gives a warning. Like, by the way, like, I'm going to read it verbatim. So, you know, parents at home, there's some kids who are. There's some profanity.
Starting point is 00:05:19 And so he reads it, but he stops before praise beats Allah, which I think is like really, really funny and extremely, an extremely Jake Tapper thing to do. Sure is. Open the fucking straight, you crazy bastards. Or you'll be living in hell. Just watch. We should note that destroying civilian power infrastructure is generally considered to constitute a war crime under international law. Though, the president could argue that the infrastructure has dual use and also is utilized by Iran's military.
Starting point is 00:05:48 But yeah, the president's fine and he's doing more threats. He did more this morning. I mean, a lot of stuff. I don't even know what we should. We could play the obliterating their country bit. Sure. of what, well, this one's very muddled because, of course, we're having the same issue we have every Monday now, where there's a official thing that comes out usually from Axios now about like ceasefire imminent, like right before the market's open. That is, we just ignore that at that point, this point. That's not a thing we pay attention to. But then the president comes out and says the contrary things, the things that immediately contradict each other. We're going to do this. And I'm going to. And I'm going to. And I. And I. And, I want to do this and these. But this one is kind of him laying out the plan. And there's some odd music in the background because it's like the Easter celebration. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:06:38 We killed Soleimani. Without Salimani, if they had Salimani, it would be a whole different thing. Maybe. Would still be winning, but it would have been harder. Because we are obliterating that country. And I hate to do it, but we're oblitering. And they just don't want to say uncle. They don't want to cry as the expression goes, uncle, but they will.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And if they don't, they'll have no bridges. they'll have no power plants they'll have no anything I won't go further because there are other things that are worse than those two and we might have well the thing if I had my choice
Starting point is 00:07:13 what would I like to do take the oil because it's there's there for the taking there's not a thing they can do about it unfortunately the American people would like to see us come home if we're up to me I'd take the oil I'd keep the oil and would make plenty of money
Starting point is 00:07:27 he does go on to be like I'll take care of the people but okay What band is scatting in the background? This is like the band in New Orleans Square at Disneyland while you're getting your julep and about to get in line for pirates. Oh, wild. Clean audio.
Starting point is 00:07:45 We love it. On autopilot a little bit. Yeah. Unfortunately, the American people want us to come home. Unfortunately, I told everybody that I wasn't going to do any wars and I said I was the peace president and I keep talking about how I need prizes for being the peace president. There's another clip where he calls them. fools people who want to come home
Starting point is 00:08:02 yeah it is good that he is suggesting he does not want to use nukes that's a suggestion but also there's some language he used there where it's like he kind of seems like he wants to still I know that's why I'm struggling with my words
Starting point is 00:08:18 yeah but then he stopped himself right like before we started recording we were talking about this briefly the dynamic of certain actors certain people on Twitter saying it's happening we're going to use nukes we're going to use nukes and it's like stop stop putting that into the ether i guess it's good that he said that he wanted to take the oil and keep the oil
Starting point is 00:08:41 because then that like lays it out a little bit for people to understand what's actually going on he doesn't really ever try to hide it um and he he's like if it were up to me i could do it but i guess the american people they don't get it they probably wouldn't like that he says it over and over again like this continues there's other interviews he's already done several of these kind of clips walking around doing easter stuff and then just like threatening war crimes yeah by the way we all know this but blowing up civilian infrastructure like bridges and power plants are war crimes it is attacks on civilians because you don't like what their government is doing uh collective punishment all the stuff we all know is war crimes that we would certainly see as war crimes if they were done
Starting point is 00:09:27 to us. Like if the Golden Gate Bridge was blown up and they're like, well, America's not doing what we want, we wouldn't think that was an appropriate way to handle politics or war at all. And yet he said he wouldn't go further. Right. And right then you have to speculate what would be further than that, which of course brings us to nuclear, which is something I would love to stop saying immediately. I mean, even without using nuclear.
Starting point is 00:09:57 nuclear weapons, so to speak. We know that at least Israel, United States and Israel, have been targeting Isfahan, their nuclear site. And there are all sorts of warnings about the ecological damage that can cause the radiation that could seep out. Blowing up a nuclear plant. It's a nightmare. It's bad. It's not okay. So, yeah, scary stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:23 There is another clip of him I'd like to play a dress. that. And it might be a little bit tougher to hear because, you know, they're following him around in Easter egg hunt, I believe. But the question that he gets here is how would it not be a war crime to strike Iran's bridges and power plants? Good question. Mr. President, how would it not be a war crime to strike Iran's bridges and power plants? Because they killed 45,000 people in the last month, more than that. It could be as much as 60. They killed. protesters, they're animals. And we have to stop them and we can't let them have a nuclear weapon.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Very simple. That number seems to keep climbing, doesn't it? And I mean, yeah, going from, yeah, a number that was questionable, 30 to a new number, brand new number that he didn't, like no one said, 45 and then saying, oh, so 60. Like, he's going to say 100,000 in a week, right? If he's ever asked about this again. Murdering 3,000 protesters is really fucking bad. I don't like any any amount of protesters murdered is a nightmare none of is a justification for us to do all the things that we're doing especially if killing more people innocent civilians in the name of that what are we talking about punishing them even more for being it is highly unknown the number of innocent civilians in Iran that we have slaughtered in the last month and will continue to slaughter depending on where this goes unknown
Starting point is 00:11:56 probably higher than we think right now, as with the number of U.S. soldiers higher. Every number we have about, yeah. Everything. Do you remember, I forget who it was? I feel like a week ago or two weeks ago, one of them, one of the, one of them, said that, like, well, we don't do collective punishment.
Starting point is 00:12:17 That's what Iran. Like, they literally, like, tried to frame it. Like, we don't do that kind of thing. And now we're just talking about it openly. But whatever. I don't know. Everybody says everything. I mean, their argument goes back and forth from we don't do it to we do, but it's different when we do it.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Or it's necessary when we do it or we're allowed to do it because inherently we're the good guys. No, it's complete gibberish. I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah. Also, in the Hague. Even, yeah, right now, actually. He's getting worse and worse. We'll talk about him in the coming weeks.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I feel like the most recent episode that we did, like last Thursday, we talked about like how Trump was. saying like, well, we're not going to do anything by the straight of our moves. Good luck. If everybody else deal with it and Godspeed. And then like four days later after being, I assume, in the hospital, he's like, open it up. Come on, guys. Like what, I don't know what, I don't know what is going on.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Because that was all, it's all bullshit. That was just his attempt to pressure other countries to join in. That was just, no, none of it's working. It's not going to work. Let's talk about these airmen that were. shot down and rescued. This is a very confusing story just because I don't know if we're getting the facts from official channels from the Pentagon and then let alone when Trump comes in and just starts ranting. So the official story seems to be that on Friday, two planes were shot down
Starting point is 00:13:49 over Iranian airspace and two separate incidents, one of them an A10 whart hog, which is something we've decided to call a plane, cool, flew back to Kuwait and was rescued there, and the other an F-15-E fighter jet crashed in Iran and the pilot, a colonel who may have been somewhat injured, it's unclear, climbed up a, like a hill, like climbed up a two-kilometer mountain, and then the United States rescued him. We don't know, I believe still now, we don't know his name. There have been no photos of the rescue. There is an AI slop image that Governor Greg Abbott of Texas and Representative Mike Lawler of New York are sharing that purports to be the rescue that is clearly an AI slop photo. Like even in a movie, you'd be like, this is too well lit to be a rescue that just,
Starting point is 00:14:42 like watch the end of Rescue Dawn. It doesn't look like this. And he's got an American flag. If this was a movie, the cinematographer should be fired. Also, just the faces on everybody. Yeah. But like, The photos you get that come with your picture frames don't tend to look, have guys dirty in, like, army uniforms clutching American flags because that seems unrealistic. Anyway, these dupes believed it. Embarrassing. But right. So there's a lot of speculation based on some of this stuff doesn't really seem to add up.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Nothing's been released. Was this a botched attempt to get the uranium or tease out the. uranium thing. That's pure speculation. I'm just like there's a lot of speculation weekend. That's fine. Right. Like what is this? Like what happened? Is this proof that they do have the anti-aircraft missiles, which Trump previously said had been obliterated? Or is this proof that like, oh, we have ground troops in there and can get them out easily? So let's go, you know, like what lesson will they learn from this depending on what happened, if any? Yeah, it's very clear that, um, We're not getting good information and we're getting a lot of conflicting information and they're lying to us and which, you know, every war, obviously, but really sloppy.
Starting point is 00:16:05 The lack of transparency is a real fucking problem in trying to talk about this in a productive way because everything is guesswork. Like, yes, we see the story. We see the story that they want us to believe. It very well could be at least somewhat true. Obviously there are some glaring holes in this and more information needed, but it very easily could not be true at all. It very easily could be some sort of big diversion. The whole thing could have been about getting the fuel, but we have no fucking clue and we do not have media that we can trust. We do not have access to information through the Pentagon. We have a crackdown on journalism.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Not that the journalists are really rising to the occasion anyway, but it's just impossible. And related, Hegset fired a bunch of generals who I believe he wants us to think resigned instead, willingly, because they, I don't know, but that's a pretty harrowing sign as well. even if they resigned willingly That's not a good look dude If all of your top generals are resigning
Starting point is 00:17:25 Because they are in protest for your war Yeah Both scenarios are to do in that war What you plan to do is what this is about seemingly Again speculation weekend Speculation weekend speculation month man I how many times have I sat here Have we sat here saying
Starting point is 00:17:44 Over the past few weeks There's rumblings of this I don't know. And then three weeks later, it's looking more and more real likely that that was true. Same thing with this casualty number. Same thing with the rumblings of people being fired. The story about General Randy George, the Army Chief of Staff, the New York Times reported that part of this was because Hegseth blocked the promotion of four officers, two of whom were black and two were women, which is what we know Hegeseth wants to do. Like it's just a white nationalist hierarchy plan from him.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Yeah, he wants his whole, he wants his Christian white holy war army to go to the Crusades is what he wants. Didn't they raise the level of just, I don't know if it's just people or men specifically, that you can enlist up until you're 42 now. They did. They did, in fact, raise the age you enlist. And I think it's okay to smoke weed.
Starting point is 00:18:45 That's just fine. Never been so happy to be 43. Oh no. You got a big birthday coming up to. I got another 10 years. No, Cody. You got like six months. I always forget that you guys just got out of your toy.
Starting point is 00:19:02 You just got over indie sleeves. I know. I get no sleep and I feel great. Yeah, let's go ahead and fire people that have made their career and are in line for promotion because they're black or they're women. But we'll, you know what? Any 42-year-olds out there? It doesn't matter if you're a pothead.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Come on. We got room for you. It's the Dumber Crusades. It's so stupid. There is a comedy movie in the next few years where it's like grown-ups with Sandler and crew, but it's just Seth Rogan and that crew, and they're like 41-year-old stoners. They got nothing going on in life.
Starting point is 00:19:42 They're like, let's join the Army, dude. And then, of course, they, they don't anticipate the war crimes they'll be asked to do so they have to start like a rebellion from inside. Got it. Just writes itself doesn't it? Stripes. Stripes too. You can't take that idea. That idea is mine. I don't want to write it that much but I will if you take it. I'll be mad if you take it
Starting point is 00:20:01 but I don't have the time to write. Who has the time to sit around and write the movie? Unless you want to give me the time in which case I'll write it really quick. What I worry about is that Hegsef wants the story to be oh no, it's just because they wanted to promote black people and women, which is a story. I'm fine getting out. Don't print the story where he resigned instead of do the war crime I'm asking him to do. Yeah, he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah. Which also seems likely with some of these moves, given what they're doing, given that even if you were upset about the promotion thing and all this stuff and you didn't agree on personnel, we're in the middle of a war that's not going well. even though you're pretending it's going well. Do you really want to let go of the most experienced people you've got? The Army Chief of Staff. The Army Chief of Staff. I think maybe he's not prepared. That is an important role, I guess.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I could have thought a... I'm not a military gal. Speculation weekend. I speculate. It's probably an important role. Yeah. The Army Chief of Staff, it is certainly a military gal. an important role, yes, in the middle of a war.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Yeah, maybe you should have thought of this before starting the war. That's not a war, even though it is. Yeah, no scenario is good for this, and it is very clear. I mean, just, again, we've talked about it since it started. The way he talks about this conflict is just fire and ash. And it's very clear what he wants to do. We're getting rid of all the rules of engagement. not going to follow all your woke rules of war.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Like, he's been very, very clear. And it seems like maybe there were some people who were trying to hold the line and maybe be able to push back on this new ethos, but didn't work out. Let's talk about Artemis and aliens. Yeah, well, so we didn't get to talk about Artemis last week. And I think that is a really cool, positive, neat thing that is happening. that we don't really get to talk about that kind of stuff. It happens not as often as we would like.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And outer space is super cool. And I do resent people like Trump and all the little right-wing blue checks who were like, oh, my God, space. And they're like, well, you cut these programs. You don't want this to happen, actually. You support people who want this to not exist at all. But super, super really, really cool and inspiring, some amazing photos coming out.
Starting point is 00:22:43 We're going to be, I think, today or very soon, the farthest humans have ever been. Obviously, we have craft and things farther out. Voyager. Who knows where Voyager is. But in terms of human beings, we will be
Starting point is 00:22:58 the farthest we have ever been from Earth. And that is just incredible. Incredible. We are able to do that. It is a shame that this got so lost in the weeds I think for a lot of people
Starting point is 00:23:15 because of all the cacophony happening everywhere all the day all the time every day and it is so astounding to think about how far we've come and these images that are coming in
Starting point is 00:23:30 the information that can be gathered and I'm so impressed by people who have spent their whole lives training and working towards achieving this goal and it truly should be the kind of thing that America is so very proud of and it represents
Starting point is 00:23:47 what America could be when we're not gutting programs when we're not yeah what humanity could be what humanity could be you know what that's a much better I accept what I said but
Starting point is 00:24:02 Cote's is much better because ultimately I've always hated the space race concept of like Isn't this all of our frontier? You know, the first people, the first country to go there, that's such bullshit. We should be working together. This should be all of our common cause. No borders on that planet.
Starting point is 00:24:22 But I just specify the America part because we used to be a country that invested in research and wanted to cultivate the best minds and invite people to this country to help us. over the years we've gotten so very far away from that and this is just such a beautiful reminder of what's possible and the good elements of technology and progress um the flip side of that which we're probably not going to talk to the space conversation is everyone now seeming to go on cable news talking about aliens or demons and we're not just talking about random people we're talking about, you know, Jady Vance. We're talking about Matt Gates.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Yeah. So, we're probably going to do a larger thing about this. Who has the time? I thought it was April Fool's jokes, but it wasn't. It is and it isn't. You might notice a sort of uptick in a lot of people claiming that there's aliens and stuff, a lot of specifically Republican senators and congresspeople or former Congress people Again, the vice president saying that he thinks that all these UFOs are demons.
Starting point is 00:25:40 He said that. That's what he is positing that he believes, even though I don't think he does. He does believe that. I don't think he believes that. We've discussed the Tucker Carlson story about how one of his large dogs on his bed scratched him and he woke up and thought it was a demon and still claims it was a demon. And I just sort of wanted to highlight the fact that most of the clips that I've seen, recently. Most of the clips being posted, most of the people making these claims and most of the discourse seems to revolve around people going on specifically Benny Johnson's show. And I think that
Starting point is 00:26:18 might be a little telling as to why this is now the story. And maybe there are reasons that certain people and the powers that be would like people to be focused on this. instead of what's going on and believe in demons. Maybe they want people to believe in demons. It's just very, really absurd to watch everybody just sort of be like, yeah, finally. What are you talking about? The vice president's like, yeah, I'm so interested in aliens. I'm obsessed with this stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I'm more obsessed with this stuff than anybody. But also, I haven't looked into it, even though I said it was going to 12 months ago. But I'm now, this is the year. This is the year, folks. Trotting out these ideas. You're going to have to show me some information, dear sirs. I want to be clear. Aliens exist.
Starting point is 00:27:15 That is my general thought and opinion. If there's a human alien hybrid, shall me. That's where I get a little questionable. How cool. Yeah, alien hybrids, people going out there. You're only so absurd. Saying you would be shocked to your core if you saw what I've seen. Okay, show me.
Starting point is 00:27:33 So yeah, so okay, so here's my last, here's my last thought about this. So this guy, I forget which congressperson it is, is out there being like, oh my God, you would, if you, if you, if you saw what I, if people, if the people saw what I saw, they would burn down the world. Oh my God, everyone be so unglued. Are you? Are you acting like that? Because you seem fine, actually. You seem like you're just kind of going on Benny Johnson's show and trying to rile people up, but you're fine. You're not acting like the way that you think everyone else will act. So I question the validity of your concerns, I guess, is my point about that particular person. But Artemis is super cool. Check it out. Check out all those beautiful photos. Every single human being that's ever, ever
Starting point is 00:28:27 lived except for four are in that photo because the four they're in the ship. Every being that's ever lived. They're all there. They're all in that photo. Everyone. All their little dust, all their stuff. Oh, all their star dust. All their star dust. It's all there. Okay. That's pretty, I love that. I like thinking of it like that. It is. That's everybody. It's a family photo.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Minus the four people are in the ship. Family phone. We should all frame it. Put it on the mantle. I would. But then Donald Trump's in my family photo on my mantle, so maybe not.
Starting point is 00:29:02 All right, everybody, we did it. We're at the end of the show. Oh, folks at home. I just want to say,
Starting point is 00:29:10 if you got some time and you're hanging out, you want to watch something fun, watch pizza movie on Hulu. It's written
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Starting point is 00:29:26 It's a tight 90. It's really, really, really funny. Cody saw a screening last week. Apparently is fantastic. Really does encapsulate the sketch comedy nature of their group, but on a feature film level, which is exciting, and we're stoked for our friends. And why wouldn't you want to watch something fun and light?
Starting point is 00:29:45 It's hilarious. Yeah. Delightful. Have fun. Okay. Like and subscribe. He's going to take a nap. Also, we love you.
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