Some More News - Even More News: Trump's Tariff Tantrum

Episode Date: February 24, 2026

Hi. Katy is back, and today she, Cody, and Jonathan talk about Trump’s meltdown after the Supreme Court deemed his tariff policy illegal. They also talk about Kash Patel partying with the U.S. men’s hockey team, and JD Vance’s performative oafishness.PATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comYOUTUBE MEMBERSHIP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/join#EvenMoreNews #tariffs #DonaldTrumpSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hi, hello on today's episode. We talk about the fallout from the Supreme Court's ruling that Trump's tariffs were illegal. Plus, Cash Patel got to party with the U.S. men's Olympic hockey team and J.D. Vance performatively doesn't know how to cook. Hello, hi, and welcome back to Even More News, the first and only news podcast. My name's Katie Stoll. What? What? Hi.

That wasn't surprising, actually. I'm Cody. Jonathan's also here. Hi. What? Okay. That one was a surprise. Blown away.

Blown away. Before we get to the news, just want to thank you guys once again for holding down the fort for me without me last week. Extenuating circumstances. Did you tell people what I was dealing with? We said, happy emergency again. Octopus farm that you were starting your octopus farm and that's what took you away. I was starting my octopus farm. No, I was in the middle of a very, very, very, very intense week long snowstorm in the Sierra Nevada's. Four plus feet of snow, even at my low elevation, no power, no water, no internet. Well, I have water, but the water is now on a boil notice. It's a whole thing. I never got a plow to my street. So anyway, I didn't. have internet or access to work for most of last week and that's why I wasn't there and I currently am not at my house because it's still unlivable but that's not your concern that's my concern

everything will sort itself out yeah everything works out you've been through a lot it's not nothing there's just so many trees down and power lines and uh blocking our drinking water and it's not just my town, it's three neighboring counties just kind of got, kind of got our worlds rocked. It was scary. It was also really beautiful to see the way people come together and help each other. I will say, thank God I bought snow shoes before this storm because it came in very helpful. And my best well wish is to everybody on the East Coast enduring a intense winter storm. It's cold out there, folks. Let's talk about the news.

Well, we got big, we're back in tariff news time. We get to talk about the tariffs. Liberation Day. We've almost been unliberated and maybe liberated again. Who can say what's going on at this point? So on Friday. Can the president? Oh, well, the president is saying things.

Who can say? Who can say? The Supreme Court on Friday ruled six to three that the tariffs, the reciprocal tariffs and the Liberation Day tariffs as part of the IEEPA were illegal. He can't use the IEEPA to initiate tariffs because that would put everything on the phrase regulate imports. And you've got to be really specific when you're writing a law that says, hey, we're giving the president this big authority he's never had before. There are different discussions in the majority as to why this is illegal.

Right, because the conservatives that joined the majority have major questions doctrine. We're not going to get into that today. Anyway, so they didn't even weigh in on the fact that the trade deficits are not a national emergency. They just were like, nope, this law doesn't give you the right to do that. I wish they had. You wish they had weighed in on the emergency thing? Yeah, I do. I do.

Yeah, it would have been nice to know if the president can just say whatever is an emergency. Well, especially since given his reaction to... Yeah. Was he not okay? Well, he's taking it well. He's taking it well, you said? Well, he first attacked all the justices and called them fools and that they're a disgrace to the nation, particularly the two that he nominated. He didn't call them terrorists, though, so he's pretty happy.

He's feeling pretty good. If you're above the threshold of domestic terrorist, then... They're still on the team. His good graces. So what he's doing now is he's saying, okay, well, this is awful and it's the worst thing that's ever happened, but it's also not a big deal because I can just put most of the tariffs back on citing Section 122 of the 1974 Trade Act, which Trump is an expert on, to justify placing tariffs on anyone of up to 15% for up to 150 days, though that is probably illegal

to because it requires a, quote, large and serious balance of payment. deficit, which we don't have, not going to get into it, question for another day. But at any rate, by the time those are struck down, he'll cite, you know, the emancipation proclamation probably and put the tariffs on. Extra freedom. Then we'll have a year of legal wrangling. So we're just going to run out the clock tariffs-wise, it seems. Couldn't he, shouldn't he be making deals?

What kind of, like trade deals? Like trade deals? Shouldn't you just be making trade deals? Isn't he supposed to be doing that? Yeah, but he didn't. So shouldn't he be, couldn't he be doing that? He is the deal man. He's the realization that this whole year of negotiations and negotiating trade deals.

And there are people that agreed to things in exchange for a lower rate. And then they're like, wait a minute, what, what, why did we just jump through all these hoops to try to make you happy, you dear Lord? And then there's Canada, which all of a sudden has a significantly lower tariff rate. And it does not seem well thought out. Oh, by the Supreme Court or by Donald J. Trump? By Donald J. Trump. By anybody. Well, right.

Like this in, I guess in fairness to the Supreme Court, I guess in fairness to the Supreme Court, they're supposed to look at this and be like, is this legal or not? legal. And what Brett Kavanaugh said in his dissent to this partially was, well, what are you going to do? Do all these refunds and who do you give refunds to the importers who paid the tariff or the consumers who had the tariffs passed on to them? This would be a real messy thing to untangle. So what? We shouldn't say it's illegal. Like, yeah. Once you've done enough illegal stuff, it would be really tough to make something right. So I guess it's like it doesn't make any sense that way. But you're right. Right. It's a huge mess now because what do you do? There's between $150 and $200 billion in tariff revenue. Who do you give that to? I mean, if he's smart and could force it through Congress, give everyone a check for $1,500.

It's midterm year. We're getting the checks. This is the year that the checks would happen if there is a year. And you've got the excuse now. Oh, we can't keep the money, even though I said I was going to give you the money anyway in the tariff. checks. I say it like once every two months and then just never do it. Well, also, I mean, it gives him, it gives him this weird kind of cover, which is weird, weird to say and frustrating too, because he can just be like, well, the tariffs were working, but they said I couldn't do them. So the reason that things are bad is because they said I couldn't do them. Like, he's just going to use any of any of this to, like, excuse anything. Right. And then we have the issue you brought up, Katie, with the trade deals, the European Union just said like, well, we're going to hit pause on this trade deal.

We negotiated this 15% rate. Right. But your new 15% rate might be illegal and the old one was thrown out. So maybe we don't need this deal at all. Now's the time to do the deals. Now's the time to trust him that he'll do a good deal and get what you want out of it because he's going to commit to it. And nothing can be done to change his mind. I think it's also while we're here on this topic.

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I don't get it I'll explain it off camera Jonathan okay okay he's in Paris and Jonathan Donald Trump's furious this Supreme Court yeah he's unfair this Supreme Court he's a mad guy Donald Trump

the Supreme Court the Supreme Court that he has so heavily influenced that almost always rules in his favor. It's just wild. I just need to point out that while, yeah, it's good that they made this ruling. That's because of the money, folks. It's not because of the Supreme Court

is all of a sudden turning woke on you. Oh, you're not allowed to touch the money? It's not about... You're not supposed to touch the money? He wasn't told that. Nobody told him. That's fine. But...

The money. Don't fuck with the money, man. Yeah, I don't think we should expect the Supreme Court to just be like, oh, in a nine, nothing ruling, they take back the immunity thing. And they, they like Netflix, diverse shows now or whatever.

That's not happening. The president has been like, kind of freaking out on truth social this morning yesterday. He's been referring to the Supreme Court in lowercase, which he says he's doing, he says we'll be using lowercase letters for a while based on a complete lack of respect. Dude, why has he got to be like that? He's doing these wild rants. He's saying, as president, I do not have to go back to Congress to get approval of tariffs. It has already been gotten in many forms a long time ago. They were also just reaffirmed by the ridiculous and poorly crafted Supreme Court decision. So it's very

confusing from him what the argument is whatsoever. Why he's mad and what he's mad about and what's making him mad and what he should be mad about and what actually happened and what he wants to do. Also, if he would, this is like another um notch in the belt, notch on the chart. What I'm so sorry. This is another example of why Donald Trump. Notch in the wall. Is not a not a particularly good politician because if he was better at this, he would just stop the tariffs and kind of pretend they never happened, and then he might not be quite so unpopular. Well, then you blame them.

For anything that goes wrong, it's like, well, it'd be good if I could do the tariffs, but I couldn't. Right. Let me the end. Exactly. It's kind of like a gift. You can give people checks that they'll like, and you can say, look how bad things are. Well, if I could have done the thing that's the magic bullet that we didn't give time

to work enough, that would, then it would have been. They said the magic bullet was illegal, so we got to go get them. Go get them. Peacefully. Peacefully, go get them. But also, don't talk about them as much because he's very unpopular. He's like minus 27 or something. But the tariffs are minus 30 or more.

Like the tariffs are more unpopular than he is, and he's very unpopular. Shouldn't have voted for him. So unpopular, everybody fucking voted for it. And so I guess I don't know what happens from here other than the, administration probably abides by the Supreme Court ruling, and Trump just pretends he's not. Because he's going out there saying, I can do whatever I want.

I can put on more chance we have other options, whatever. He's definitely going to keep going for it. Like, he's not going to back off. That's not what he does. I wonder if he will, like, talk a lot about this at this State of the Union. I bet he will. Like, he'll mention how he's going to keep doing it. I don't know how long it takes.

for these changes. It's chaos. But as of last night, I was seeing from CNBC, US importers are still paying Trump's illegal tariffs, even after the Supreme Court ruling. I don't know what the timeline is. But yes, you're right. There will be a lot of talk about this tomorrow night.

Also, like, I mean, they're, you know, and it's just like, is it a good idea? Is it a bad idea? It depends if they do it or not. I've seen Elizabeth Warren and some Democrats, like, basically point out, give it back. That was that's our money. You give it back. Do the checks. Return. You got to give the money back. Which either he won't and he'll do something else or he will and that'll help him. Right. I know.

So it's like yeah, he should, but that's politically beneficial to him and his party. So I don't know. But that's why I think it's smart for Democrats to talk about it because the Democrats are like, we're ready to do a bill come to Congress we'll get this done and he can like they can be like it's the Democrats who are giving you back your money yeah but until until he's on board and he says it was his idea and then he does it and he's like I signed the check it's the Donald Trump check that you got um he'll put put in the memo like no Democrat helped with this no Democrat these are Trump tariffs this is why the tariffs are important so we give you the money he'll say Trump tariff return check you're welcome all Democrats hated this and didn't want you to do it want you to get this

as much as I would like a tariff return check. I'm still waiting on that Doge check. We've got like eight checks coming. I'm still waiting on my COVID payments. The decade of checks. We'll get them all. Remember the days of yelling at Biden that he owes us another $600? Nine checks lined up.

We got the Doge check. We got the tariff check. I'm sure there's like an embassy check. Oh, we're shutting down all the embassies. You're going to get a check for that, right? Yeah. USAID check probably. Which I guess is technically the Doge check.

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Patel, the head of the FBI who's doing head of the FBI stuff, he was taking a business trip to Italy. To his girlfriend's show? talk with Italian law enforcement counterparts talking about security

talking about all the stuff that the head of the FBI does. He's allowed to do this. But then the U.S. men's hockey team won the gold over Canada in overtime. Huge moment in what, first time since 1980, Miracle on Ice that U.S. has won the gold.

And then in the locker room, we got this guy shows up in the locker room who's not on the U.S. men's hockey team. And it's FBI director, Cash Patel. We'll watch a little bit of this. Oh, give me a break. Why does he have the medal? Why don't they give

the metal? I mean, what's the metal for? So obviously, this leaked to ProPublica in like a half a second. Yeah. Kind of embarrassing. That is so embarrassing. Oh, what it's our, it's everyone's 12. Everyone's 12.

Everyone's... It's our frat-boy government for you. That's just... I want to see the clips of Cash and Bongino talking about this being done by literally anybody else. Oh, like on a podcast had Christopher Ray. Their angry podcast monologue about how no one should be behaving like this, and we got to go in and get the...

We got to get the lists or whatever. Right, right. We shouldn't be wasting our time with booze and getting fake medals. You know, all these Democrats and their fake medals and their... Oh, yeah, participation trophies. They're wild lifestyles. They need to be serious and responsible and do their job instead of this clown shit. Yeah.

Do we have those clips? Are those ready to get queued up and ready to play? Yeah, no, what is our FBI director doing? the Olympics. Partying. Getting a medal. Partying. Getting a medal.

Do you think he brought his girlfriend with him? Yeah, I do. Or is he going to go to a show of hers a little later? Was he getting pumped for her show that he's going to fly to? If he brought his girlfriend there, that would probably ran on his parade a little bit. Hard to say. To be fair, to Cash Patel, he's only gone into the locker rooms of 15% of the U.S. winning teams. If he were abusing his power, he'd be in like 20% of the locker rooms partying.

I also think like if for whatever reason the FBI director was seen at a court side at a New York Knicks basketball game, it would be an interesting aside like, oh, we never see this. The head of the FBI is doing this thing. But Cash seems to go to almost every major American sporting event. that there is to he's constantly going to see shows he's seeing uh the he's seeing the gold medal game at the olympics he's at like major nascar event then he's at the like he you shouldn't be doing it this much right we know you're an elite and you're you're really reveling in the fact that you run the show now and you don't really do anything all day so you get to fly around and loves it the jet we pay for and go do stuff but be a little bit

subtle about it. Be a little classy about it. Those days are gone, long gone. You don't have to do any of that anymore. You can just do this. Yeah, it's really, really off-putting. They're not even trying to pretend like they care about how this looks at all. Yeah, here's his tweet about it. For the very concerned media, yes, I love America and was extremely humbled when my friends, the newly minted gold medal winners on Team USA invited me into the locker room to celebrate this historic moment with the boys greatest country on earth and greatest sport on earth.

You know what? Vance tweet. I think he's right. There is nothing more humble than that clip we just watched. I was humbled to be surrounded by all these people and handed a beer that I had to drug. I was humbled that I was able to chug that beer. I was humbled wearing the gold medal

around my neck. I was humbled knowing I could never, ever be worthy of this. I feel like it's a little bit of like when all the like jocks very meanly vote for like the nerd to be homecoming king or something. Yeah, for sure. I feel like the portion of that team was like let's get this guy all riled up and spray beer and put the metal on him and he'll act as if like he's one of us and we the actual athletes know that he's not. I feel like maybe not all of them. Maybe some of them are like big

Yeah, maybe the fans of the show. Big fans of the Katie Miller podcast and they know him from there and stuff. Exactly. Some of them were probably making fun of him. I saw you on Katie Miller, bro. Yeah. It's like, as I'm well acquainted

with jocks in my life and they don't always have the best interests of the humble nerd at heart. There's this former special agent, former FBI special agent on Blue Sky and he writes one of the first

things we were taught at Quantico was that there is never a moment in which you are not representing the Bureau. This man obviously has a lot more reverence for the FBI than I do but like there are very significant standards that we all kind of have internalized and understand

that need to be a held, you don't expect there to be a scene where Clarice Starling and her boss go to the Olympics and are chugging beers with the U.S. hockey team, though she deserves that after where she put in to capture

Buffalo Bill. Buffalo Bill, I mean, come on. You're going to disrespect her? You're going to take that away from her? You're going to take away for her celebration? I hope she got a nice ki-ante over there. Okay, good. I say we were just chugging something different. Before we wrap things up this morning,

shall we react? No. Before we wrap things up this morning, shall we react to some clips? We have clips we can look at of people that we think are good. Are good? I don't know.

Oh, it's about Vance. No, we don't. Oh, no. So we'll watch this quick J.D. Vance clip. Before we do, I feel like we should circle back to the tariff Supreme Court situation and read this Vance tweet.

There was instantly community Noted because he's lying and he's just dishonest guy who tweets whatever. I'm going to read his tweet. Today the Supreme Court decided that Congress, despite giving the president the ability to regulate imports, didn't actually mean it. This is lawlessness from the court, plain and simple, and its only effect will be to make it harder for the president to protect America, and then he continues on and on. Community note, the 6-3 ruling upholds the Constitution, which reserves the power to tax exclusively for Congress. The court determined tariffs are taxes, and the 1977 IEEPA's power to regulate imports does not explicitly delegate this taxing authority to the president.

But it doesn't matter. You can community note all day and it doesn't matter. So let's watch JD and Usha Vance on My View with Laura Trump. Laura Trump, the president's daughter-in-law interviewing the vice president. Okay, this is got to be good. Is it a play on The View? She's like, no, this is my view. It's got to be, right? There isn't The View. This is my, I did it my view. Okay. I did it. Why? J.D., I have to ask you, Usha once said that you did not know how to cook much before you met her. So what is the best and worst dish that you ever cooked for your wife? I mean, the worst is very easy. It's so easy. So, okay, so I, if she's a vegetarian, I am not. So, so, Jaydy didn't believe in recipes.

Yeah. So I'm like thinking to myself, what does a vegetarian eat? Okay, vegetables, dairy, and bread. So I went to the grocery store. I got those crescent rolls that you can get that are very good. I rolled them out like into a pizza shape and put vegetables and rinse dressing on top and stuck it in the oven for 30 minutes. It was disgusting. Like it was actually an edible.

And I'm like, it's amazing that the relationship lasted because it was the first time that I ever cooked for. I got a couple things I need to. What do vegetarians eat? First of all. So to be first of all. fair to JD. When I first saw this, I was like, notice he doesn't like say, but I like

realized how stupid and terrible that was and I learned how to make something real. He does. He follows up and he's like, I make bread or whatever. I have to point out that JD, you're making this bizarre little pizza thing with ranch dressing and vegetables and stuff on it. You can make pizza vegetarian by not

putting meat on it. You don't replace the pizza sauce with ranch dressing because pizza sauce is edible by vegetarians. You can just get a, you don't put a goat in that? You just make a pizza. You know, there's no, no, no goat, no goat. You just put pizza sauce and cheese and bread and don't put meat on it. And then it's vegetarian. I also, I just find this so distasteful, not because of the disgusting meal that he describes, but he's,

just doing this bizarre identity politics pandering of like, oh, I'm just a fucking idiot, aren't I? Aren't we all terrible, lazy husbands? Don't we all just fucking suck shit? We're so o-fish.

Also, I'm the vice president, by the way. By the way, I'm the vice president. But I'm so stupid. And don't we fucking hate cooking guys? I'm a meat eater.

I'm one of those meat-eating kind of guys, you know, but these vegetarians, they just like to suck down the ranch or whatever. It's just really obvious. It also perpetuates this idea of like, well, what am I supposed to do? I'm just a guy. I don't know how to cook.

But I was trying. Isn't it sweet? It's actually not sweet. And in general, just so problematic, this idea that men don't have to know how to do basic things in the kitchen or how to cook. And it's a charming anecdote instead of it being like, what are you 12? Again, what are you 12? That sounds like something a kid would decide to me. make for their mom

Mother's Day. It doesn't make any sense. It is like you said Cody. It is performative oafishness. It is this trying to hold both things at the same time like you know men are clearly the smartest and most sensible and logical and we should run

everything but also we're like clueless sitcom dads from the 80s. Like we can't possibly do anything and isn't that charming and then he laughs like Philip Seymour Hoffman and the Big Lobowski. This like big big. fake

pointless laugh as if such a good Philip Seymour Hoffman in the big Lebowski RIP

You literally transformed I know God what a good movie But Vance like I don't know

what it would be like to see him laugh genuinely He doesn't I'm sure it exists He was a person He was a real person

And he had friends And he did He was a real guy And joked around I'm sure As we've talked

about. He's not like some freaky weird kid rock fan. He's just a guy who like went to college and liked music and like was a guy went to parties and stuff and was probably normal. I would like, I would love it if our editor could show one more time. We don't need to watch it unless we want to right now. It's so funny. The funniest thing in the world to me. No one's talking about it. But the big, he laughs throughout very performatively and the fake laugh. It's very funny. But I'd love at the beginning when she says, J.D., I have to ask you, and he laughs at that. It's so funny and weird. And, like, obviously, he knows what's coming.

They've planned this ahead of time. But, like, to laugh at, just play it, please, thank you. J.D., I have to ask you. What are you laughing at, man? What's the, what are you reacting to? It's just an interviewer saying they got to ask you a question. Oh, it's so good. An interview, a question?

Now I've seen everything. I'm we laugh I'm such a laughing kind of guy and I offer you a laugh ma'am to you saying that you're going to ask me a question it's so good

what a weirdo do your Philip Seymour Hoffman Vance laugh again that's marvelous now do him yelling in punk trunk love

yeah yeah you want me yell shut up yeah yeah yeah shut up shut up Shut, shut, shut, shut, shut, shut up. Excellent, thank you so much. That's good.

I don't have much from Capote. Okay. In there. Okay, that's okay. I got the... Save that for next week. From Capote. Boogie Knights.

Guy. Mention Impossible 2. Do Mission Impossible 2. 3, my friend. 3. Fuck. Piss ass. Ah, much. I meant this. Whichever way is the one that shows you know how to do the thing.

Not the way that Nazis did. Okay, that's it. That's it. We're done. We're done for today. But not for long. Because tomorrow night. No, tonight. At the time of this release, when you see this, we will be live streaming tonight at 6 p.m. Pacific Standard time. You may be saying, wait a minute, wait a minute. That's the same time as the State of the Union. And I'm desperate to watch the State of the Union. Well, you should tune into us. We're not going to watch it. But we will react. to the clips. Or we'll watch it, who knows? Maybe we'll watch it. Maybe we'll watch Lord of the Rings during it. Who knows? It sounds difficult to watch it and make fun of it.

We could watch Lord of the Rings while we watch the State of the Union and then comment on whatever else we're reading. We're like the State of the Union designated survivors where we're the ones not doing. Exactly. So if that sounds fun to you, well then I've got your Tuesday night plans, folks. We love you very much. That's all I have to say. Much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much.

Thank you.