Some More News - Even More News: Was Trump Previously Being "Mr. Nice Guy"?

Episode Date: April 21, 2026

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Hi, hello. Today we talk about the State of the Straight, Trump's ominous musical truth social posts, and Cash Patel's big party lifestyle as head of the FBI. Very cool. Good morning. Welcome back to Even More News. The First and Only News podcast. Ew. Okay. Welcome back to Even More News, the First and Only News podcast. I'm Katie. Stole. that is. Yeah. Hi, I'm Cody. How's it going? Welcome to it. Are you hearing no evil? No. I mean, yes, because you're not, you're no evil and I'm hearing you. Okay. Jonathan's also here. Are you sure? Hi. Oh, gosh, there he is. Yeah, I'm hearing the news, so I'm hearing exclusively evil. I was having fun for 20 seconds as we started this show, but now it feels like it's time to talk about the evil. Oh, did I ruin your immediate fun?

What happened this weekend, Jonathan? Well, the state of the straight is, were the same as it ever was, really. So on Friday, Donald Trump and the foreign minister of Iran announced that the Hormoz Strait is completely open. Okay, great. We're done here. Fantastic. Something, I mean, Honestly, that's something that like no one thought could happen.

It's been like 30, 40 years and no president has gotten them to open the straight. So good for Trump, the dealmaker, finally. You know what? I think I've changed all my opinions about him. Though there is more. So Trump later was like, oh, but our blockade is going to stay in effect until we have a permanent deal. And Iran said, that wasn't part. of this little arrangement we had, the blockade, the whole thing was going to be open. Remember the

announcement we just made? You know, 19 ships, I believe, went through in a few hours there. It was not open for any meaningful length of time. Now it is closed again. The Marines seized an Iranian ship. Iran fired on some ships, and there might be talks happening again this week, but we are back to where we were. And Trump has gone back to his threats to destroy the power. plants and bridges in Iran. He says no more Mr. Nice guy because he's been really nice up to this point. Yeah, that's one thing that I've thought. I was like, you know what?

It's weird that Trump's been so nice lately. Didn't he share that my way by Frank Sinatra over the weekend? Which begins with The End is near. That's a little foreboding. He's just a, he's the slop-brained man. Just can't help himself. And it is genuinely, unless someone's asked him about it while we're talking and he's rambling about it. It's unclear whether he was saying, the end is near for you, Iran, I'm going to blow you up my way.

Or if he's just like, great tune, man. We got to bug him that. He's like, I've never heard this song before. Yeah. I need to share it to the people. Hey, have you guys heard this song My Way by Frankie Sanitra? Frankie Sanitra. Yeah, just to, you know, again,

And this little slop-brained man just got to get his little truths out and change his mind every day about what is going on and why it's going on. And I don't think they're competent enough, honestly, to plan it the way they do. But they do kind of plan this stuff for things are good when the market's about to open, but then things are bad over the weekend when the markets aren't open. And then they just failed this morning to do a things are good again. They are saying like, oh, peace talks are back on. We're doing it.

But like, I don't think it's really taking. The pattern is kind of falling apart a little bit. Definitely try to do this on purpose. Well, you're right. It is kind of tanking. But it still feels it's so hard to get an accurate pulse just looking at the media in general. Because at the same time, there's reporting or, you know, it seems as though it's going to continue, you know. all the security that is gathering in Islamabad.

So to signal that things are proceeding as normal, which they very well may be or they very well may not be impossible to get an actual gauge on what's happening. It's hard to, in fact, I think it's getting worse. I feel as though it's even harder to get an accurate sense of the realities and of what's, what is or what is not true than it was a few weeks ago. Personally, I find that to be true. I think the media is doing, I mean, they're making some mistakes in framing and stuff, but in terms of just the raw information that's coming out,

I do feel like we're getting a picture of what it is, and the reality itself is so muddled and back and forth, and they're making deals with they think who's in charge. And it does seem that on Iran's side as well, that Araghi, the foreign minister, had a deal that maybe some of the hardliners went back on. Again, like, we know what we know, like all the information is out there, but the reality is so muddled and Trump is going back and forth and he's got. Yeah, the narrative. That's fair. All the communication is the more muddied sort of thing.

Yeah. No, I think it's fair because there's only so much people can do with the information that they're given. But I guess what I'm saying is I don't know what gets reported that the administration wants reported versus. what is being reported that people have dug up and found for themselves. And so it's not fair to only place the blame on media because it's probably, it seems insurmountable. 100% they get to set the narrative. Whatever Trump says, like, this is what's next. We're going to, we're doing new talks and this will be great.

They're going to report that and that'll be the headline story, right? The New York Times top story right now. Iran and U.S. plan for new talks after weekend of trading threats. That's true, right? But it's not obviously what's going on where things have crumbled from where they were on Friday when the markets at least believed that, okay, this is all wrapping up soon. And even now, the markets are only a little bit down from those all-time highs on Friday. They still think this is all going to work itself out soon. And it would seem to me that the best time for the Trump administration to make a deal would be right now because you're going to have to give Iran more once, if and when, the resource

scarcity hits us as people keep. Like, I know it's been weeks of this catastrophe is about to hit. It's already hit Asia. There's going to be real resource scarcity. The prices you think they're up now are going to really shock people. And maybe that won't happen, and Trump will get away with it again. But it seems like if that does happen, then Iran is holding many more cards. Yeah, and then he's even more desperate. So it's just another debacle again. They're trading threats back and forth.

Maybe there's talks that Vance will be part of, but not. I think that's unclear still. who the head negotiator is. I think he was not even given a shot. They're just like, you do this round. You do the failure this round.

Not that he has any experience as a negotiator or anything like that. But there's a reason like Marco Rubio didn't go. That makes no sense at all. Why would the Secretary of State not go? Because, well, fancy you go.

You do it all. You fuck it up and embarrass yourself. because it's not going to happen, and we know that. They should put him under a literal bus, like symbolically. They should pull a bus out on the White House lawn and literally throw J.D. under it. But don't start the bus and don't do it. Just put him there. Don't start the bus.

I was like, oh, John. Just put him there. No, I'm certainly not saying that the bus should move. I'm saying that they should symbolically have a bus and throw him under it. Then he can crawl out and say, that was actually great. I enjoyed that. I like this White House filth. Here's the problem with the mainstream media and how they're reporting about me being literally thrown under a bus for symbolic purposes.

I climbed under there. No one threw me under any bus. I crawled under the bus of my own will. Here's why people don't trust you because I voluntarily crawled under that bus. They didn't throw me under the bus. And then people don't know the common phrase, you crawl under the bus and it's good, which is a phrase that, you know, people where I come from in Appalachian. I think. Real America. They used the phrase, I crawled under the bus and it was good, in fact. Middletown, Ohio, but sure. Middletown, Ohio.

Speaking about taking naps under a bus to sleep off your hangover. Yeah. Alleged hangover. Alleged hangover. Cash Patel. You've got to say alleged because I don't want to get sued for $250 million. Cash Patel apparently thought getting hired to be the director of the FBI was in fact getting hired to be in the Rolling Stones because Cash Patel, according to reporting in the Atlantic, is drunk a lot, spends much of his time at Ned's in D.C. or the poodle room in Vegas drinking a lot. Did he have poodles in there?

I don't know. I'm not invited to the PR in Vegas. and that things have gotten so bad that that swat, that like breaching equipment was used to break down a door because he wasn't answering his door, that they've had a hard time waking him up because he is so... I'm sorry, they do have poodles. Oh, really?

Well, we should do this show from there, live show at the poodle room. Absolutely. They've got a live mascot poodle named Fifi. Aw, that's cute. Breaking news. Sorry, Jonathan, I had to Google that. No, and so now, because of...

this, Cash Patel is suing the Atlantic for $250 million for what he says are false and defamatory statements. And it's really helpful because the lawsuit has a list of what those false and defamatory statements are. So if you don't want to read the whole Atlantic article, you can just read here, is known to drink to the point of obvious intoxication. Meetings and briefings had to be rescheduled for later in the day as a result of his alcohol-fueled nights. Thank you for compiling these. This article, you know, it opens up with this story of how Cash logged on, tried to log on to his work computer and all of his credentials. Like he couldn't log in.

And instead of doing, I mean, allegedly, but instead of doing a rational, normal thing of calling IT or, you know, trying to get to the bottom of what happened, he immediately jumped to, I've been fired. I've been fired. apparently tells everybody and starts freaking out, has a total meltdown telling everybody he's been fired and panicking and panicking. And it turns out it was just a tech glitch. I want to speak to this specific anecdote. Because it's funny to laugh at like, huh, ha, I get a laugh out of it.

But it's actually so fucked up in lots of ways. Because what that illustrates is a man who was so unwell, so unhinged. I'll be gracious and say disregulated, maybe the stresses of your job. paranoia, fear that you're losing your job, a spiral situation, podcast withdrawal, but immediately jumps to a conclusion and does not do anything to confirm that conclusion and then spreads it, which I would argue is literally what he does every time he's got a job to do. He jumps to a conclusion and tweets it. It's unhinged, but it also is deeply sad. Whether or not these claims are true. I think they're true. We saw him chugging beers with the Olympic team. He's been flying around to

see his girlfriend perform shows like 15% of the time. Regardless of all of them, some of them are true. That indicates severe issues mentally and emotionally that absolutely could be exacerbated by addiction. And if it wasn't such a gruesome person, I would have maybe a little bit of empathy for you need help. You need serious help. You are in over your head and you certainly shouldn't be working in an administration that will exacerbate, you know, your mental health issues. Okay, that's it. That's what I wanted to say. That's very nice of you. I agree with you. I think it's a problem. I need to highlight the fact that I said he was gruesome and I don't have empathy, but if it was a different person, I would. Yeah, I mean, he's clearly struggling. I also think it's interesting,

It's an interesting reaction from him because I think it also really highlights and illustrates the dynamic between every employee of Donald Trump and Donald Trump. Because to him, how you get fired from the FBI is you just get locked out. You're not told you don't get a memo. You don't get a phone call. You don't get anything. You just get locked out and you have to figure it out yourself. And his assumption was like, oh, he's treating me like shit like he treats everybody like shit. He just fucking lock me out.

I guess I'm fired. And I think that's very telling, too, that he, like, knows that that's the case and is just operating in that world and fine with it. Yeah, and it makes sense why he'd want to hang out with a poodle at the poodle room. Fee-fi. Who wouldn't? One time I got logged out of my work email, Gmail account, and I was like, that's it. They finally pulled the plug. They finally pulled the plug on old Jonathan.

And I went and, oh, I was like, I went and ripped the arms off of Warmbaugh, and I was already writing my. my tell all book, they're very nice. And then you had to pay back all that damage you did a Wormbo. $30,000. His bones are hard to mend. And you know what? You guys have been really nice about only docking like 20% of my pay each week to pay. We're going to make it last forever.

We're good people. Why is Wormbo all jewel encrusted these days, though? Isn't that like not his real character? That's what the doctor said he needed. That's how his bones heal with jewels. You know, he's not at the office that much. He's flying around. He really is like speed running a rock star crash out where they're like tapping him on the face

and saying like, it used to be about the weaponization of the federal law enforcement man. And now you've just like gone off and you're just partying and drinking all the time. Maybe he'll get fired soon. He's a huge embarrassment to what the FBI is supposed to be. That is interesting because this behavior would lead to him being fired. and the reaction to it, the lawsuit, like, the more attention to it, he's clearly trying to save his job because now he's going on TV saying, we're arresting people for the 2020 election any minute now.

You know, he had like, that would be why he gets fired, not the drinking. He'd get fired for he hasn't arrested Obama yet. That's why he's there. Trump is like, what else do I have to do to arrest my political enemies? And of course, Cash Patel does kind of understand, well, it's not that easy. Well, yeah, the answer is like, well, you need to compelial. evidence and like a case and still in our sister

on your side. Why he's drinking. Well, cash, quit. Quit. Yeah, bravely returned to podcasting like Bongino. That's the best way to avoid getting fired

is to quit. It's so funny to think that this is the lifestyle that you are now allowed to lead when you're the heavy FBI. Like it's not, Like, it's, it's not like, oh, yeah, I'm like, I got a job here, like, in this office and like, I can, you know, I'm in the club, but I'm, but like, it's such a huge responsibility. It's just like wild to think that now's the time. But, you know, that's who these people are. So I'm, I'm just, I'm honestly surprised that that has been reported so heavily. But Heggseth is keeping a cap on it for now.

We haven't had a big report yet. He's not on video. chugging with the Olympic team there hasn't been a huge news magazine that's reported that he's passed out on the job certainly. His behavior is like erratic and he's saying a bunch of like fucked up like religious zealot stuff

to everybody. He's doing a lot of things that are... He's a more high functioning alcoholic is the answer. Also I think he's living on the bunkers. He's one of the guys living in the bunkers. I know positive but he might be. Not literal bunker, military housing, but, you know. Well, the literal bunkers aren't finished yet under the new...

No, no, not yet. Under the ballroom. In the most amazing ballroom. We totally, like, did not have time to dig into that, but is it legitimately that he's like, this ballroom has to be finished because it's going to be like a military installation almost? That's the implication. Yeah.

Bunkers underneath and there's going to be like military grade. Military stuff, all kinds of, yeah, secret business. That is what he heavily implied. Um, which that's, that's weird. It's the White House. It's not that. Um, it's very weird in that it's the White House and it's not that. And also the whole, I mean, this whole thing has been like, well, why do you care about

the new ballroom? It's being funded privately by other people. Okay. But now it's apparently like this military, uh, facility and bunker that is also being paid by private entities. That's actually really fun. up. It is the people's house. It should not be funded by Meta or whoever. No. No. No. Regardless. Yes. There's a, there was reporting recently I have to dig it up about how all the money that Meta and X were giving to the Trump's presidential library has been like, we don't know where that money is and it's not going toward anything. I think Elizabeth Warren is trying to like have hearings about like where's what did you actually pay for?

Right. scum and it's just like kind of in the wind and it's like you know these are 10 20 million like not the billions that they're spending on the bombs and stuff but like lots of money even if there are like massive investigations when this is all over there's like so much money that this will not be accounted for and I mean even like he's suing he's suing his own IRS and demanding hundreds of millions of dollars from them like it's absurd and then commenting on it to himself wouldn't that be weird if I pay myself well okay so I think it's good to have a really secure, safe spot for the president and vice president, et cetera, to go to if needed. But it seems to turning the White House into an underground military bunker with shadowy, God knows what activities. I thought they already had tunnels out of there. Right. Like surely that exists. But I don't know. This sounds bad. This doesn't sound like the purpose of the White House personally. That's.

seems like a different location should be. I want to correct something from a few minutes ago back in the Iran story because I said we didn't really know if J.D. Vance was going. And Trump did say that Vance is leading the U.S. delegation. So Vance is going back to Pakistan by Tuesday night, which means things probably aren't going to go well because why would you send him? Well, it cuts into his checking out Area 51 time, which is, I think, a real problem. I'm still waiting for the human.

He was going to go. He was going to go to Area 51, but now he's got to do this failure. He's got this other failure to address. He said that on a podcast like three months ago that he's going to Area 51. I'm going to check it out. Yeah, well, he said about a year ago, and then he said it about a year later. He still hasn't found time. You're the vice president.

Just go. Show up. He can't. He's got to fail. He's got to fail this week at other stuff. First he's got to fail. He can't fail at that. Area 51.

Before we go today, gentlemen, should we check in with the Pope? Yeah, this is a Popecast now. We have to check in. We've been following the cinematic Pope-averse. Pope Leo wanted to kind of put all this whole feud with the Trump White House to bed, I think. So let's listen to the Pope. then we'll take a look at J.D. Vance's response.

There's been a certain narrative that has not been accurate in all of its aspects, but because of the political situation created when on the first day of the trip, President of the United States made some comments about myself. Much of what has been written since then has been more commentary on commentary, trying to interpret what has been said. Just one little example, the talk that I gave, at the prayer meeting for peace a couple days ago, was prepared two weeks ago,

well before the president had ever commented on myself and on the message of peace that I am promoting. And yet, as it happens, it was looked at as if I was trying to debate again the president, which is not my interest at all. What an asshole. It's not the first time I mentioned this. this is very telling that like literally he's just like, I just talked about peace and the president thought I was fighting with him and the vice president thought we were fighting with each other.

I just said peace was good actually. You know, it doesn't help anyone to have a feud with Trump and Vance, right? So you can see why he wants to just end this. And he's like, I just talk about peace. And it's up to other people how to interpret that. And if people are offended by that. Was that something you examined for them? Analyzed that.

I had a pre-scheduled talk about peace because he's the Pope, and he probably has many pre-scheduled talks about peace coming up over the next rest of his life, right? So that's what the Pope said. This is a clip from Fox News that J.D. Vance quote tweets, quote X's, and says, I am grateful to Pope Leo for saying this. While the media narrative constantly gins up conflict, And yes, real disagreements have happened and will happen. The reality is often much more complicated.

Oh, no, that's enough. What a funny response from a guy who wanted to fight the Pope and has been. I'm so grateful, finally, an adult in the room to really put this to rest. Thank you, Vice President. Your Vice President, J.D. Vance. Also, thank you to a streamer, who I'm only familiar with, from his. his replies to J.D. Vance, Connary's plans for saying that he's the worst Catholic since Martin Luther and ratioing the hell out of him immediately. Nicely done. He consistently does that. It's so funny. He's the reason seemingly that J.D. Vance doesn't tweet as often as he would like, because every single time they are there.

Yeah, just a little funny little attempt for advanced. I just don't think he's very good at this. No, he did it his way. All right. We're done here. Like and subscribe. Hit the little button for the algorithm. Have a good Tuesday. I'm assuming you're listening to this on Tuesday.

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