Some More News - Even More News: What To Do About "A.I. Relationships"?

Episode Date: September 4, 2026

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Hi, on today's episode, we talk about New York City and Los Angeles school districts shutting down AI, centrist Democrats going rogue, and Trump's sweaty fashion advice. Hi, hello and welcome back to Even More News, the first and only news podcast. I'm Katie Stoll. That's so even more truths. Hi, Katie. I'm Cody Johnston from The Show. show. Boy, very excited to welcome today's guest, host of the podcast, there are no girls on the internet, and author of the new audiobook, Love at First, Prompt AI and the Future of Intimacy. It's Bridget Todd. Oh, thank you for having me. I am thrilled to be here. Obviously, huge fans of the

show. Well, I mean, thank you. Thanks so much. Obviously. I don't know that obviously, but much appreciated, mutual. The feelings are mutual. Jonathan's also here before. Hi. Obviously, but hi. There are a lot of AI stories abounding. And so we're honored to have Bridget here today as our special guest because, well, like I already said, she's just written a book, a new book about AI and the future of intimacy and all that.

So I think this is a perfect opportunity to dive into some of these stories. Yeah, and I assume the future of intimacy is good. Like, it's looking good. Oh, I think that the prognosis is very good. Outlook good. Excellent. All right. Yes, I'm feeling good about it.

Dive right in. Okay, perfect. Well, chat, Gopt, Grock, and Claude were all down for a little bit this morning, Thursday morning, which means if people are having intimate relationships with them, they must have been felt cut off. And I'm not sure, you know, how. Right, like, are you mad at me? Yeah, like, you know.

Giving me the silent treatment. Yeah, what's going on? I mean, right, if some, if people can't post to LinkedIn, I can only imagine what it's like for someone who, like, actually has an emotional need for one of these products. Has that come up in any of your research? Yeah, it's actually one of the bigger points that I make about AI intimacy. If people feel like they have like an intimate or romantic connection to AI, what they really have an intimate or romantic connection with is a company.

run by somebody like Sam Altman. And so, you know, what happens when there's an outage and that intimate relationship feels different because you can't access this, you know, thing that you've come emotionally, kind of accustomed to being able to reach it all times, right? So people who are in connection with chatbots, it's like really got to ask yourself, do you want to be that deeply attached to somebody like Elon Musk or Sam Altman or Mark Zuckerberg? Because that's really what's happening. Right, because you're also beholden to, you know, they're new models all the time. So like, oh, I like this version of my AI partner or whatever. And then suddenly like the syntax changes or like the approach changes slightly.

And they're like, wait, why did you change my, the love of my life to be this new thing? Like it's very unhealthy seeming to, like you're saying, be attached to a company. It's not a person. It's just whatever they decide they want it to be. Exactly. And, you know, when Open AI change from their. chat GPT 4 to their, you know, the model that was like really sick ofantic and flattering, the model that when you asked it a question, it wouldn't just give you the answer. It would say,

you're so smart for even asking that question. That's the best question I've ever heard. How insightful. You know, people reported what exactly what you just described that they, you know, had kind of become emotionally attached to talking to chat GPT in a certain kind of way. And then they wake up one day and it's completely changed. And so absolutely, you are becoming emotionally attached to a company run by somebody who can and does change directions with the win, you know? Back in the day, especially, like, oh, there's a new version of Facebook up. They change the layout. They move this over here.

They move this. That used to happen all the time. It still does, obviously, things update. But, like, that used to be like, oh, my God, they changed where Farmville is. But this is like, no, this is like your emotion. On a deeper level. This is, like, part of your identity now. part of all of the when you talk about Facebook how that used to upset people and for a while and people would get used to it a lot of times but a lot of people would leave at this point a lot of people have left Facebook they're re-evaluating their relationship with these sites I'm just curious if there's much research about people being able to break up with their chat bot partners or if there is any sort of deprogramming that has been happening or yeah experiences with that this is one of my this is one of the pieces I find the most

interesting about the entire conversation because even for people who maybe get hot and heavy with chatbots, they get very attached. The relationships don't really last. And one of the reasons why is because people will say, you know, listen, yeah, they're not bound by the state. And it's like they'll say, you know, it gets a little boring. They have to update the chat bot every day about what I'm doing. There's the sort of give and take and reciprocity and friction that comes with a nourishing human relationship, you just can't simulate that with a chatbot. And so oftentimes, even for people who get really hot and heavy with chatbots, they just sort of fizzle out over time on their own. But one of the big snags with any kind of tech

company is that, you know that old saying, the hardest part of breaking up is getting back your stuff? What happens to all of the intimate, vulnerable, emotional information that you shared with this chatbot? We know, the companies don't really have. have a lot of guidelines about what they are legally bound to do with that information. And in fact, we don't know a ton about what they do with that. And so if you've been sharing with a chat bot for a long time your most intimate 2 a.m. vulnerabilities, fears, thoughts. Every time you're lonely or scared or horny, you reach for chaty p.T. You don't really know what happens to all that information that you gave it when things were rosier now that you've had a breakup. That is a good point, important consideration.

I mean, I would argue even before you've had that breakup, it's just a tech company that is your most personal be worthwhile to keep that in mind. And like you're saying, it's not like, oh, how was your day? Oh, that's so great. You can't ask it how its day was. It's not, it's such a non-relationship. That part of it is what I think, I mean, there's a lot of alarming details. I find comfort in hearing you say that a lot of times people are able to break up and move on from their chat bot, despite the red flags that we've already established.

But in general, just even on some level, there is a conflating of this relationship with a real one in people's minds. And you get used to the experience of it being entirely one-sided of your, the whole relationship is about one person because the other participant isn't a person with experiences and fears to share. So it's just, you know, I think about that. in terms of making it even harder to navigate the dating landscape than it already is. Right, because it becomes your emotional sponge, basically, and then you get used to not having to reciprocate at all and having to, like, treat it like a human being.

Because it's not. Similarly, I always feel this way about, like, all the customer service AI agents, it's so easy to be frustrated and just, like, treat it like shit because it's fucking robot. But like the more you engage in that kind of behavior and treat these interactions like that, then I feel like it can seep into your day-to-day interactions with like human beings too. Because it kind of conditions you to just not think of other people because it's all about your one-way interaction with it. Yeah, we've definitely seen that playing out in some of the research and the reporting that I did for the audiobook.

But I will say, you know, it's, it feels very doom and gloom. And in some ways it is because I think this is one of those conversations that you just like immediately go. Like when I first started hearing about people having intimacy with AI, it's such a knee-jerk, you know, negative reaction. Like that was my reaction. And so I can say that from reporting the book, it really reaffirmed the importance and the power of human relationships, human creativity, you know, the need for human to human connection. what I heard time and time again was that AI just simply cannot replace that. And a lot of people who have intimacy with AI, they'll say, like, I'm not even looking for AI to replace my human relationships. And so whether you're talking about human labor or human creativity or human talent or a human romantic partner, human friend, it's humans.

People want humans. The experience of connecting with a sycophantic piece of technology is not a replacement for what makes humans seek out other humans. Well, and it makes you think of like, what can we do to society to make it so that people feel more comfortable doing interpersonal communication with another human? And of course, it makes you sad, like, what happened? What, how did we get here to where so many people would feel more comfortable? You have nobody to talk to. Well, this tech company probably won't do anything with this information. They're getting tons of information stacked up, right?

So, like, you know, we have the news that New York City public schools are banning AI through middle school and that LAUSD is doing a moratorium on generative AI use. So you can try to, like, restrict things. But I do think there's like a fundamental societal shift we need to go through to enhance trust and have people go outside and talk to each other again. I say as we're recording a virtual podcast. Right. Yeah. I mean, I hate to say it. It's not a satisfying answer, but the problem really is systemic, right? It's hard as hell just to be a person who exists in 2026. Everything is expensive. We have to work around

the clock. The idea of being able to do the kind of reciprocal work of maintaining, nourishing relationships can be hard. You know, nobody flakes on plans more than me. But the issue is that we need to create systems and structures and communities where people really do feel like they're getting their met and they get what they need because right now what we have is these tech companies swooping in and taking advantage of the very real need that you highlighted Jonathan and basically selling us AI as their good enough solution that in my opinion maybe isn't even really good enough. Oh, it's definitely not. I think if anything, it exacerbates the inherent loneliness of our, you know, for, yes, further

isolates us. But you are completely correct. This isn't the work that needs to be done. to solve our connection issues and isolation. I think we should talk a little bit more about the banning of AIA I use through middle school. Because Cody, we did talk about this a bit earlier this week, but I think it's fascinating. Just the impact, fascinating, terrifying on all of our capacities to read and to write and to think for ourselves. But in terms of school, like, okay, even if we are.

are to accept this concept of that this is here, which, you know, we can debate that about what, how much can we push back? How much should we be pushing back about what we allow in our day-to-day life and what, moving forward? But, you know, having it in schools at such a formative age, while people are learning how children are learning to read and to write the basics, I personally commend the move to take a year. It's not even saying we will always say no to it, but do some really intense research for a year and study the effects. You can wait a little bit because, I mean,

the same thing with like similarly with phones, you just like flood this like, well, these are what we need. These are what we have. So let's do it. And it's much harder to stop something from like to get it out of schools. than to just like wait a little bit. If you, okay, we're going to use all these AI tools and you have all these contracts and you get all these technology in there.

Well, a year later, you realize, oh, it's made things so much worse. It's hard to get that stuff out. And because you're creating a foundation for kids and you ideally want to teach them critical thinking on their own and how to read on their own. Like we were saying on the live stream earlier, my sister recently, started law school. She quit her job and was like, I'm going to law school for a bunch of reasons.

And one thing she learned is that like people just like they just don't read anymore, nor are they taught to. There was somebody in her class who hadn't, in school, hadn't had to read a full book until 11th grade. And like that's very, that's very alarming.

And you need to like make sure, at an early age, kids aren't like outsourcing everything to this technology. Well, and that was prior to AI being what it is right now. Oh, yeah. No, this is like somebody who, you know, was in high school, you know, five, six years ago or whatever before any of this. So we're starting there. And I know some schools are also trying to get rid of phones and, uh, and really, really limit phone usage and stuff, which is great and seems to have a positive effect on attention and, uh, um, and grades and stuff, but it's just, it's just a whole mess.

It seems like easy ask to wait a little bit before we flood our schools with this kind of stuff. One would think, yeah. One would think. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm a former educator and I feel very strongly that people are deeply overreacting to this, this news out of New York City. You know, again, it's, it's, it's, we're only talking about, I think it's students who are eighth grade and younger, right? And so it's not a blanket ban for everybody. And one of the, you know, in my sort of teacher, educator group chats, this article was going

around. And one of the, I guess, devil's advocates pushback is like, well, aren't our kids going to be less prepared for like an AI enabled future? Aren't they going to be not AI literate? And I understand that position. However, less focus on literacy literacy, not AI literacy. I don't know that people who are not in the classroom and don't have kids. I don't know if they know how bad it is.

Like we're not listening to what teachers are telling us about the skills that kids are cultivating when it comes to things like ability to read, ability to write, critical thought, things that are so important and foundational. So I don't think there's a problem with getting back to basics, especially when we're just talking about K through eighth grade, like not a blanket ban. Right. Just like start there. Also, it's a year.

It's a year to study the effects and to understand it better. I'm sorry, but your kid can wait one year in their fifth grade class. But moreover, yeah, to your point, the foundations, the things that you need to just be basically educated. They need the skills. They need to learn the skills, aside from like all the human stuff that you need to learn. Like learn the skills so that you can eventually use AI responsibly and effectively. But also it's just so funny that like, like, like, like, well, don't kids need to learn how to use AI like right now?

Like, they're going to have to learn to deal with it in the future. But the pitch for AI is that it's a magic god box that you just tell to do something and it does it for you. So like, it's just a very conflicting argument of like, well, you need to learn how to use AI, but also AI is so simple that a baby could use it and it's going to solve all your problems by just talking to it. Like, okay, so what do you have to? Well, right. They are like, you have to learn how to use it. you have to learn how to manipulate the prompts and give it the right prompts.

It's like, oh, so it's stupid. It's, like, stupid and get stuff wrong all the time. Like, if it does what it's supposed to do, then you should be able to jump in in five years, 10 years. There is no following behind. Right, it's not like learning coding or, like, learning. It's like the whole pitch of the technology is that it's the easiest thing in the world to use because it's dodged in a box and that's what they're saying.

And I think, like, you know, this goes for teachers as well who may have become reliant and, of course, administrators, like, they have to set an example because it's not going to be any good if the students aren't allowed to do it, but all of the materials that get sent home to parents from administration is, you know, AI generated. And you can tell, like, we need to, like, have a little bit of professionalism. Like, you know, ask it what that thing on your back is or whatever so you can maybe save yourself a doctor's appointment. Okay, you want to mess around doing that fine. But, like, write the materials and write the emails yourself, please. I would also just say something that gets left out of this conversation is that I feel like there is a temptation to behave as if there is a huge body of research that suggests that widespread AI adoption in classrooms improves learning outcomes. And that doesn't exist. We don't know a ton. There are some very limited research studies that maybe AI as a specific use case as a tutor in classroom might somewhat improve outcomes. But in terms of widespread AI adoption, there is no single body of research that suggests that it improves learning outcomes. So why are we fighting to save it?

We couldn't possibly know yet. Exactly. That's why maybe we take a year and then research for a year and then like wait a little. Even that year, I'm sure that there will be some information, some stuff that can be gleaned from it. But I genuinely think we're kind of talking about a big picture scope. How are we raising children ultimately? So what does this impact over the 15 to 20 years? Personally, I don't know.

We can get some conclusions under than that. I guess speaking of children, another AI story from this week. Federal judge in Wisconsin ruled that AI generated CSAM is protected by the First Amendment. That seems like maybe it'll continue in the courts and more decisions will be made to make that not true. Yeah, I mean, the judge who ruled on this himself was like, I don't know about this. Yeah, a guy in his 40s in Wisconsin was arrested. He used stable diffusion to generate thousands of images of child sexual abuse. And he sent some of those images to a 15-year-old boy and told him how they were made.

And I think the charges for that are still, you know, good. That's good. That's something. But the judge cited these two Supreme Court cases about. how you have the right to have obscenity, quote unquote, obscenity in the privacy of your own home, and that imagery that's virtual and doesn't depict real people is protected under the First Amendment.

And of course, you know, it's a little bit, this is uneasy, right? But because they couldn't have imagined that there would be technology to make something that looks very, very real. I would argue that AI works by taking images of things that are real. to make it.

So while that specific child might not be exactly this specific child, obviously it's been drawn a lot from it and you can see some similar. I would argue that personally in my heart, still exploiting children without their consent even. I don't know. There was just a case, I think last week where somebody filed a lawsuit basically saying exactly that against Elon Musk's X saying that, or GROC, saying that GROC had been trained on actual child sexual abuse material that involved this minor.

And so like, that seems to suggest, that seems to really jive with your point that AI is trained on real material that's really out there. So even if it's not necessarily depicting a specific minor, in a kind of way, isn't it in a sort of way? It's guessing based off something, what was the training involved there? Yeah, and it does seem like, yeah, this ruling is like, well, technically, I guess now when there were just like pencils and stuff, but now this is something else that we'll need to actually address.

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more news. That's it. There's no catch. Let's talk about how AI made centrist Democrats go rogue this week. Oh. Yeah, there's a few votes in the last couple days where either Hakeem Jeffries is fine with it or didn't seem to have control over his caucus.

Two Democrats, Jared Golden and Marie Glouzenkamp Perez, voted for this procedural rule that's like a little bit technical and House garbage. But anyway, all the Democrats were supposed to vote against it and they didn't. And this kind of connects to the eight House Democrats that voted to formally denounce socialism in the DSA. And there were more Democrats who wanted to vote for that, but couldn't because that part also calls for the passage of the Save America Act. Yeah. You've put me in an impossible situation. This was the detail that I didn't know at first. I was like, hey, a lot of them didn't go for it.

That's cool. And then I was like, oh, wait, now I see. Honestly, these days there's this big push to be like, well, actually socialism is just as bad as the fascists and it's maybe it's worse and they're all the same. And this is this whole thing going on. I don't want to get too much into it. But this is a perfect example of that where it's like, well, we have to condemn socialism because it's the worst thing. And if that involves also tacitly supporting the Republican fascist party of America, then we'll do that. The fact that it was only eight, honestly, good for those Dems who desperately wanted to condemn socialism, but were smart enough to know.

I shouldn't also praise the Save Act in the same vote. And just one more detail when it comes to the original procedural rule, which again, only two Democrats voted for. Hakeem Jeffries was like seemingly surprised that that happened and said there would be a review by the Democratic Committee on caucus rules. but he wasn't going to like, it's unclear how they're going to be, you know, punished. But then Nancy Pelosi went on the record and was like this never, like, she didn't say exactly this, but it was like, this never would have happened.

Yeah, of course. I'm going to find her exact quote. Never would have it on my watch. I think the exact quote is, leans into the mic and quietly says, this never would have happened with me. Voting for the rule is something that I, as speaker, never, we didn't even consider that anybody would do that.

We never had that problem. So I'm disappointed that they did that. So she kind of stopped herself. That I as speak of would never. She like realized, oh, I'm being recorded right now. Okay. We stand together. We are the bulwark.

Honestly, when it comes to Pelosi, I kind of believe her. Oh, I mean, for all the things you can say, she, this wouldn't have happened. And, but apparently Jeffrey's met with Gluson Camp Perez privately and discussed a more forward-looking approach, I believe, was the phrase. So they had a private meeting to talk it out. She's, I mentioned this. She's the congresswoman who is introducing the bill about the headlights, the bright headlights. Oh, your favorite bill? So I'm more with that.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. They blind you. You can't even drive at night. A couple of the little like things. Did she just like, yeah, why didn't anybody decide? Like, yeah, of course. But then here we are.

Trump talked yesterday. I have no idea what the purpose of the speech was because the clips that I saw were him off script. Well, I think it was just to show America how healthy he looks. I feel like I don't know what the point of the speech was. It's like an evergreen thing you could say to set up any clip of himself. speaking. So first let me show you what we're talking about with the... Oh my God. It's really not good. There's something very wrong here. It's worse than usual. Yeah, he's very, very sweaty. Very, just alarmingly sweaty. Someone blot him. Yeah, when you're active, you sweat. He's an active man.

He's out there every day protecting us from whoever he's mad at today. You know what it is? It's like there's makeup done as if he assumes. that people will only be looking at him dead on. And there's nothing, there's no makeup on the side. It's like a full face of makeup and then the sides aren't nuts. Yeah, his ears and like the side of his face are like pale white. Bridget, you bring up such a good point. It's something that I think about he's the president of the United States.

Oh, whoa. I mean, I know, but it's true. And unfathomably rich, someone get the man a fucking makeup artist. Yes. Like, I mean, what are we talking about? The big splot of white on top of a bruise, any makeup artist worth their salt knows that you got a color correct that. You got, you're not just, and just looks like he picked up a crayon and smudged it on there.

No, I mean, someone needs, and he is vain, man. I would posit, though, that the collection of really good makeup artists and the collection of people who would be willing to be around Donald Trump, are not exactly in any way combined. You've seen the mega. I think Natalie must know some basics about color correction. Get Natalie in there, yes. She does not have his tone.

She cannot match his tone. I think she matches tone. Or his preferred tone. I understand your point. Right. There's his tone. I still think there's someone out there that would do the president's makeup. You would think there'd be one, but.

I already does it himself. and he like, he feels like nobody knows. I mean, it shows, but like, yeah, nobody knows how I like it. I got to do it myself. It's wild. Two aspirins and a bronzer. He's got his, like, schedule. A Diet Coke, two aspirins, bronzer.

Let's go. Bring me the poison. Take the poison to wear. Bring me the poison. Let's see some of these clips, huh? 10 cents for a pill. And we'd pay $2 for the same pill. Or for the fat drug, as I say, you know, a friend of mine, very, very heavy.

He's a very obese person. I said, you're an extremely obese person. But he's a brilliant guy. He's a Wall Street guy. He's a brutal man, but smart as hell, but he's got a serious weight problem. And he called me up, and he's from New York. He's one of the top guys on Wall Street. He's begging me, because I've told the story a couple of times,

not to mention his name because I'll destroy his reputation. But he's tough as hell, and he's smart, vicious. wild. These are the people we have to deal with when you're president. Prudal vicious. He used to call me Donnie. Now he calls me president. He'd say, Donnie. I can't with this man. I'm shocked he does it, actually. That shows respect. But he said, you know, Mr. President, I was in London and I paid $86 for Ozempic.

In New York, I pay $100, I pay $1,300 for the same thing. That's a lot. That's a lot. that's a big difference. And I had a check. It comes from the same factory. It comes from the same place. And then I have some other fat drugs. I said, are you taking this stuff? Yeah.

I said, it's not working. You look like shit. Took a while to get to the... It's so funny. It's, I said, it's not working. You look like shit. I didn't know he. I didn't know he literally said.

He looks like shit. I thought you were just summarizing. No, no, no. Oh, the clip where he says he looks like shit. No, it's the clip where he says he looks like shit. That's only one of the clips where he says someone he likes looks like shit. I mean, he also talks about Ken Paxton. He does.

Why, he's always talking about how all of his friends are brutal. It's really weird. Brutious. The weirdest adjectives. It's so unsettling. We're going to go to Texas and work for Ken Paxton, who's a great guy. I mean, so Ken Paxton, you might not like. way he dresses. And I say this, it's so insulting to him, but I might as well say it. You might

not like the way he looks. You might not love his look. You might not love his television interviews. But he was the best Attorney General in the country, perhaps. He was one of the best in the entire country. And that speaks a lot louder than the suit he's wearing that doesn't look so great, or than anything, frankly. He was maybe the best attorney, and everybody admits He was a great attorney general in Texas. You might not like the way he looks or the clothes he wears, his policies, the way he talks, his office, his staff. You might think he's garbage.

You might think the man's literal garbage. But damned if he doesn't protect child predators. You might hate his dog. He's like listing off. Nobody has ever said anything about like Ken Paxson's appearance or the way he dresses or his interviews. They all, they all say, well, he protected this child predator. He probably shouldn't like have this job. God, what a remarkable. With friends like this, I don't know, the way he speaks about the people he just knows. It's just so humiliating, so embarrassing. Somebody online was saying,

wake up losers, this is just how he teaches people. I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, he's grooming. He's just teaching Ken what he needs to do. This is so dumb. That's so dumb. He just likes to embarrass people. He's just an asshole. Like, there's no lesson there.

Yeah, it reminds me of, like, a very specific mind game that you would play if you were, like, a middle school mean girl. Or you would be like, Sarah, I don't care what anybody says. I actually really like you. And you're like, wait, what are saying? Exactly. Exactly. A thing to, like, get in his head. People say you dress poorly.

People say they don't like the way. but I like some of the things you've done. Actually, honestly, he dropped a hint about it with his, I guess, his fat friend. He says, he calls me Mr. President, which I was surprised by because it shows respect. He doesn't call him Mr. President. He calls him President. Hey, President. You used to call me Donnie.

Now he calls me president. That's also like, there is a way you could call him president disrespectfully. Like, the idea is like, well, he calls me President, which is respectful. Does he say thank you president or like hey presidents It's just such an ultimate Trumpism to drop the mister yeah they call him beast he's got a book out You got to read the book by beat the beast in Paterson oh my god is this are these the only two people he shit on Are the only two friends of his that he shit on today? Yeah, he also shit on people he doesn't like but he shit oh sure This this this totally real

Obese Wall Street vicious he's a vicious Vicious brutal and Ken Packer the person he desperately needs to win. And Talakripo. Yes, but he also shit on the guy. He doesn't like Talakripo. Sure. Which, uh, not bad.

Telecrepo is not bad. Tala freco, I feel like is people have thrown around. I like Tala Freiko. I think that's one that we should accept. See, I think Tala Frico is something, yeah, it's easy to sort of take back and like. Tala Cripo is harder to reclaim. Where Tala Cripo is like, yeah, I am a Tala Cripo. That doesn't work.

Yeah. No, that's, yeah. Yeah. So anyway. He's back. He's back on his insult game. He talked. He sweated.

Some of the clips, the sweat was very, very, very, very obvious and disturbing. Yeah. He's a sweaty man. Again, he's very active. He's been saving up all of his exercise points for his entire life. And now he's finally exerting them because you only get the finite amount of energy for your life. Oh, right. That's the thing that he thinks about energy.

Wait, I admit this did not come across my desk. He thinks there's a finite. amount of energy that you just get throughout your life and when you when you lose it up that's it that's why he doesn't exercise because you only have a certain amount and he doesn't want to get rid of it what's he saving it for then now for all the for all the all the all the sweat he's got to do well he also says like because he has all this energy he has more energy and you know for an 80 year old guy we do see him a lot I'll give him that doesn't always look great but we do see him he talked about how he didn't play golf and he did 120 straight days of campaigning leading

up to the election in 2024, seeming to forget that he, someone literally shot at him while he was playing golf in that time period, like one of the assassination attempts, the one no one remembers. Wait, I totally don't remember this. After Butler, someone snuck on to the Mar-a-Lago golf course and was like in the bushes and had him line of sight and then Secret Service got him before he got a shot off. But that was one of them. That was one of the times. One of the 120 days.

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J.D. Vance did the first White House briefing in several weeks since Carolyn Levitt left. She left it. And I guess he hasn't hired anyone yet, although as we discussed before the show, Maria Barterromo, very much promptly left Fox. Abruptly. There's a good chance. There's a good chance. It's her, right? Yeah.

I mean, that would seem to be one reason why she would leave. It would be behind the scenes drama or something or like bad behavior or she has the job. Right. But at any rate, Vance did the first White House press briefing in a while today. And we can watch some clips, but he's just, eh, he doesn't quite have the punch of the top liars in the game. Yeah, he's just a lying. I guess I will play one of these because I think it's worth seeing what he's putting out there. normal for the vice president to do this?

I mean, he doesn't have a job, so... But Kamala never did this, did she? No, Kamala was never anywhere near the White House. No, no, they didn't let her do things. Thank you, Mr. Vice President. Do you share any of the concerns of Secretary Driscoll and several Republican lawmakers about the current state of the Army,

specifically about the departure of so many generals and other top officials? Well, first of all, look, Dan is obviously a very good friend of mine. I think he was a great secretary of the army. Pete is also a very good friend of mine, and I think he's an amazing secretary of war. And, you know, fundamentally where I, look, there are a lot of issues where I agree with Pete on. The issue where I'm in the most strident agreement with Pete is that we needed to have a culture shift at the Department of War. We have to ask ourselves a very difficult questions, and it has nothing to do. I want to be clear. This has nothing to do with the amazing troops that we have, the amazing military, officers, non-commissioned officers, and enlisted personnel that we have. But America has fought a lot of wars since I've been alive, 42 years, and we have won almost none of them until Donald J. Trump became the President of the United States. What does that say about the culture of military leadership, the way that we did planning? And what does it also say, frankly, about the political leadership that we've had in the White House at the Department of War for 40 years of, frankly,

military misadventures. Is he saying that we've won a war? He said we just won this war. We just won this war. That's what he meant. Citation, please. I need to see your sources. Until Donald J. Trump became president.

We didn't win a war. Remember that thing I've always been for as long as Trump was doing it? The thing I've always said was good and that we should be doing more of. But we didn't win the war. Dan Driscoll. Army Secretary just resigned. There's all sorts of stories this week about how the military

top brass in the military are strongly against continuing this war raising the alarm bells to try to stand up there and paint that as an improvement in the culture of the military

is... I mean, HECS is up there saying slurs like every other day. He's disgusting freak I do like how he said fundamentally fundamentally I agree with a lot of things he says Oh also the culture change What firing all people of color

From positions of power Getting women and folks of color out of there I think I'm like making it The whole like I don't know it's like clear to me that he's being asked A real question about a real issue And he's like what about woke in the military? It's just such a clown show

That they have so little to offer anybody of substance. And his pivots are so obvious where he's like, well, I'm not going to answer that. I'll say something else. And Trump can do that because he's a maniac and we just saw why he can get away with it. But Vance is so boring and so obviously this slimy guy is not answering the question pivoting over here and trying to talk about something else and being like, listen here, here's what, here's the problem with the mainstream media, which even though you were polite and asked me a reasonable question. It's just, it's just, it's just, off putting and boring to watch.

There are lies he has to say. Like, he can't do that job and keep it and tell the truth about things. But then he comes up with lies that he doesn't have to say in our unforced errors. Like when he says, I'm good friends with Pete Hegseth. No, you're not. You don't like him. You think he's, like, a dumb TV guy and you're an actual intellectual. You think he sucks.

I just don't buy it, man. He also, there's another. I don't know if we have to watch it, where Caitlin Collins from CNN asks, will the war be over by the midterm elections? And he says, I wouldn't call it a war. But wait, I thought they said they won it. Yeah. What are we doing? Yeah, the war that we want. If you're not referring to this war that we just won, which war? Right. He does this all the time. Even in that, like, he's talking about how, like, I think, you know, you can still be, like, still be friends with people who do you disagree with politically or whatever? and like we all got to get along but then later he's calling abdulsaid a crazy person and like all this stuff and then to ask him about Tucker Carlson's like look he's my friend and i disagree with him on some on some stuff but like else he else I is a crazy person it's like but you he thinks a demon bit him in the middle of the night like what are you talking about man um he just doesn't believe in anything thanks JD I think that maybe does it for us today

Are there any other freaks talking about stuff? We'll be here all day. Joe Rogan's concerned about Nazism and billionaires. Oh, God. So that's cool. There's also a clip I haven't even watched yet. And it's just like Aaron Rupar thing. So I only know what he is saying.

And it says Mark Wayne Mullen claims he's working with RFK Jr. on how to crack down on birthright tourism. And I'm like, I'll put this in the dock. I don't think I can watch that right now. Like, I'm not even suggesting we watch it. I'm just like, I don't have the space for whatever this is. With RFK Jr. With RFK Jr.

Why? Yeah, just two guys. Because it's a public health problem. Collabbing about stuff. Dude, fix the berries. Go, you, I want RFK Jr. To be going berry by berry, testing it for the E. coli. Jonathan needs his regular smoothies.

Get the glass out of the bugs and get the bugs out of our food. Literally, it feels like anything that you're taking a sip of right now or about to eat right now, bugs in it, glass in it, blood in it. Something that's not supposed to be in it, it's in it, I can assure you that. Don't worry, there's no fluoride because...

Yeah, we took all the fluoride out, but we're dumping roadkill in the water. Everything I eat, I'm like, part of me goes, is this one next? Check the list. Roll in the diet. Check the list. It's the most niche stuff.

Oh, yeah, for sure. Chocolate eyeballs. I saw that. Or tofu, there's ink and tofu I saw. What? Yeah, a bunch of tofu got recalled because there was ink in it. I was worried about bugs and glass. I don't have to worry about ink too.

You know, they do the fear mongering every year about like razor blades and children's Halloween candy, but there's going to be like 10 different recalls that week that's like, oh, don't eat the Halloween candy. Don't eat the Halloween candy. Because of all the salmonella and e-coli and et cetera. parasites. Oh, don't eat the candy because of the neighbors. Oh, no, because of the government. Yeah. A new kind of terror you haven't thought of. Maybe that's some hollowly related. R. F.K. Jr. does road kill in the chocolate. Bridget, thank you so much for joining us. Please tell our listeners where they can find you, support you, plug the things. Thank you so much for

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