Some More News - Great Replacement Theory, Elon Musk's Kindness Party, and EVEN MORE George W. Bush Is A War Criminal

Episode Date: May 20, 2022

Hi. Bridget Todd (@BridgetMarie), host of the podcast "There are No Girls on the Internet," joins Katy and Cody to talk about how Great Replacement Theory went mainstream on the right, why Elon Musk is a Republican now, and when this baby formula shortage is going to end. Plus, some big Musk news broke while we were recording, so you'll get to hear the team's live reaction. Please fill out our SURVEY: HTTP://kastmedia.com/survey/ We now have a MERCH STORE! Check it out here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/somemorenews Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/some-more-news/id1364825229 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ebqegozpFt9hY2WJ7TDiA?si=5keGjCe5SxejFN1XkQlZ3w&dl_branch=1 Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/even-more-news Protect yourself with the VPN that Scott Bug trusts to keep him safe online. Visit HTTP://ExpressVPN.com/morenews. That's HTTP://ExpressVPN.com/morenews to get three extra months free. Check out Raycon's wireless earbuds—my guess is that you're going to want to leave them a five-star review too. Go to HTTP://BUYRAYCON.com/somenews TODAY to get 15% off your Raycon order! Athletic Greens will give you an immune-supporting FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase if you visit http://athleticgreens.com/morenews today.Support the show!: http://patreon.com.com/somemorenewsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

hello and welcome back to even more news the first and only news podcast my name that's right it's katie stole it so is oh my gosh it's so katie stole hi my name is different it's so katie stole that's like a catchphrase for my sitcom in the 90s it is now what was your name yeah i'm cody johnston by the way yes thank you thank you for asking cody johnston yeah joining us today for the very first time i guess i'm very excited to welcome host of the podcast there are no girls on the internet and communications director at ultraviolet bridget todd hi bridget hey there i'm so excited to be here thank you so much for having me. We're thrilled. We're thrilled. Bridget, this is your first time here. Before

we get to know you a little bit, I'm contractually obligated to call out the holidays. Yeah, we're going to call them out. I'm going to call them out. It's time to put some holidays on blast. And today, May 19th, isth is national notebook day kill some trees right on that paper jonathan's got one you can write on it you can you can throw them away you can use it like a fan in the hot weather because that's a good way to cool yourself down without using energy i don't know. I got that. You got to use your own energy, but, you know, you got to use your own. So today on your notebooks and then May 20th, the day that this is released is National Streaming Day.

Fun fact. This holiday was invented by Roku in 2014. Yeah, it was. All hail Roku. Good for them. Get out there and stream some shit not on your apple tv we're still talking about roku yeah that's all i got oh that's not true may 20th is also national bike to work day i didn't think anybody was working anymore i thought everyone quit their

jobs and um are living off nobody wants the government dime nobody wants to work anymore so i feel like maybe this holiday is obsolete since nobody. Nobody wants to work anymore. So I feel like maybe this holiday is obsolete since nobody wants to work anymore. Well, I'll explain to our kids that in the before time when people worked, you know, people wouldn't bike to work sometime until everyone gave it off just to live off government stimulus. Only on May 20th.

You can't, don't give your kids fake news. I'm sorry, I said fake news. That's fine. it's not fine it's not okay that's beyond done there's nothing funny there to mine i still say it i like to call people fake news well that's fake news you're bringing it back exactly something goes goes all the way around a couple times and then comes back around and we can reclaim it. Yeah, now it's ours. I don't know if I want it. He can't tweet.

It's not his anymore. Not for long. He'll be back soon. Fair enough. We'll get there, won't we? Okay, enough of that. Happy holidays, everybody. Jibber jabber nonsense.

As I reluctantly move towards the nudes section. Not nudes, news. Take a week off and this is what happens. Bridget, welcome. Oh, I'm so happy to be here. So let's talk about your podcast first. Tell us a little bit about There Are No Girls on the Internet. Well, thank you for asking. There Are No Girls on the Internet is a podcast that I created, honestly, from frustration. I do a lot of work in my nine to five job with technology and sort of advocating for social media platforms to be better and more inclusive. And I know from doing that work that it is like women and people of color and queer folks

and trans folks, we're the ones who are really making the internet what it is, you know, whether it's making it safer or more inclusive or just making it a more fun place to be, right? Like what would social media be like without people who are traditionally marginalized? And so I really wanted to create a platform where our stories could really be meaningfully centered to tell the truth that I see every day about the internet and technology, that it is a domain where queer folks, women, trans folks, and other traditionally marginalized people really shine. And we always have been at the forefront. And so I just got so frustrated to see the conversation around technology and the internet be circulated around white, straight, cisgender men. Yeah, I agree with everything you

just said. And it's especially important just to create those communities where people can find each other, where you find like-minded voices and people. Because as we've talked about on this show, and especially it's been very, very clear over the last few years, just how isolated we can be, especially for people who don't have the luxury of living in liberal cities or blue states. And so this kind of work, I think, is just extremely important in maintaining hope and community and sharing information. And this has been the past few years, but the past few months especially have been really bleak, I think, for marginalized communities, for a lot of the people that you're talking about. Do you feel hope right now? Do you gather hope from this community that we will be able to continue organizing and fighting back? Oh, I'm so glad that you asked. That's a question I ask almost every one of my guests. Like, do you feel hopeful? For me, you know, I wouldn't do this

work if I didn't have hope. There's so much to be hopeful about when I think about the state of the internet. You know, I think one of the things that always grounds me in hope for the future is looking at young people, how creative and energetic they are. You know, anytime I'm feeling burnt out or like these fights are not worth fighting, I think about the younger generation and how just really awesome they are. So I'm so hopeful. You know, you were talking earlier about the importance of the internet for communities, for folks who don't live in, you know, liberal blue, blue States. And that's why I love the internet. I grew up in a pretty small town in Virginia. And when I was growing

up there, I didn't really feel connected with people that I felt maybe shared my experience. I felt very isolated. And the day my parents brought home one of those clunky, desktop, gray, monstrosity computers, it was like they gave me a pair of wings. And it was the first time that I was ever able to tap into this world outside of my small town in Virginia. And so, you know, the internet was such a hugely important tool for me to connect with others, learn about myself, learn about who I wanted to be in the world, my own identity. And I think it's so important that we allow, you know, for the next generation to also have those experiences on an internet landscape that is not so toxic. I, gosh, I'm just agreeing with you completely left and right. Hope, I think, is my driving factor. And like, I can feel disillusioned. I can feel depressed. I look around and, you know,

all of these news stories that we're going to talk about today have an element. It's easy to feel hopeless, but we've got each other and there's no path forward unless we continue to have hope. It's bad, but what are you going to do? Accept it for what it is. I look around and I see other people that think and believe in the things that I do. And I have hope in that because we're not going away. And as hard as it is, that's why I keep coming back to community as being just so fucking important and the only way to navigate this. And yeah, I completely agree. I don't always have a lot of hope in my elected officials in our representatives, but I have hope in us. Right. I know that we have each other. And so I know that sometimes that's all we have, but that's a lot like there's real power in the power

of community. And so at times when you feel like, you know, checking out or that your elected officials don't really have your back, you can ground you can reground yourself on the power of that community. Before we move on to the news, a little lighter question. You guys, you frequently do episodes where you dig into the experiences of women in pop culture, some examples being Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston, Dana Scully. Is there a specific celebrity or character that you really enjoyed researching

that surprised you or someone that you learned a lot that you didn't know a lot about before? Oh, what a great question. Probably one of my favorite episodes is one we did last, in our first season about Missy Elliott. Okay.

I've always loved Missy Elliott. Like I'm a fan for life, but in researching her work, I didn't, I had no idea all the different ways that she's contributed to music, to art, to production and the technical aspects of these things. Right. And so I have always loved her. Like homegirl can make a bop, but I have no idea like the contributions that she's made to, you know, the technology of how music gets made. We don't really give her enough credit for the techno technological innovator that she is. We definitely don't. This is the first time I'm hearing it. So I'm going to go check that out. Definitely. OK, guys, we're going to take a quick break for an advertisement, as they say across the pond, just like that. They do. Advertisement, right?

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At the time of this recording, it's been five days since an 18-year-old self-proclaimed white supremacist went into a Buffalo supermarket and killed 10 people, predominantly black people, and injured three more. He intentionally drove several hours to this neighborhood to commit this crime. Uh, he cited the racist great replacement theory as his motivation along with a manifesto. God damn it.

It's hard to talk about all this stuff. Uh, you know, I actually was out of reception when this story happened, when this happened and when I came back and I saw the news it just just fucking heartbroken um i'm gonna throw to you guys first before we get into some of the details just to hear some of your like initial reactions to what happened i know that this is a few days late but we obviously have to talk about it my reaction is bad It's hard to like talk about and articulate and I guess unpack because there's just a tragedy and it's stuff that has happened before for very similar, if not the exact same reasons. Because the reasons cited seem to be amplified continually by like half of the country in a slightly more sanitized way. They try to get away with it and try to sort of explain it away and talk around it and pretend like that's not what they're saying. But it is and it fuels this. And I just don't know what to do or say about it beyond that's awful.

And, you know, like, you know, there's always going to be like everyone's going to run to the well of like, well, we need to get Tucker Carlson off the air and all this sort of stuff. And that's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. It won't happen. He's still making people money and he has no shame. He's a liar with no shame he admitted in his book that he started his career on tv by lying uh openly lying about his expertise he's just a shame shameless uh

little gremlin man and uh yeah so i don't i don't know and then you see like uh all these politicians who may or may not be elected this coming midterms, like on the day of the news, posting their little videos about how like, yeah, the demographics are changing on purpose. The Democrats are bringing these people so they can change the demographics and get like this voting block. And then, and then they like, don't, they don't, they don't accept the connection. Yeah. We'll get into it.

I'm obviously just rambling on. Cause I don't know what to say. I did that. I put you accept the connection. Yeah, we'll get into it. Yeah. I'm obviously just rambling on because I don't know what to say. I did that. I put you on the spot. It's what we do here. It's fine. Yeah. So the shooter left a very wide trail of indications for many months that this was something that he was planning to do on 4chan and Discord.

And yet he was still legally sold the AR-15, which he used in the shooting. Saw some piece about the gun shop owner being horrified but very defensive. I did nothing wrong. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. It's the system.

So, yes, he he does appear to have been radicalized on 4chan. But I want to talk a little bit about white replacement theory, which he promoted and has unfortunately become a pretty mainstream belief in the Republican Party. Tucker Carlson, you mentioned. We know the guy. The guy that's not going anywhere. Has either directly talked about it or alluded to it, this theory, on more than 400 episodes. That's a lot of episodes.

That's more than we've ever done for this show, I think. Jonathan, what's our episode total right now? This is 192. Yeah, that's right. This is 192. That's like more than we've ever done for this show, I think. Jonathan, what's our episode total right now? This is 192. Yeah, that's right. This is 192. That's right. So, and we've been doing this for four years. Laura Ingram has promoted it just plainly, not even obfuscating.

Democrats want to replace you, the American voters, with newly amnestized citizens and an ever increasing number of chain migrants. You know, many Senate candidates, Republican Senate candidates are openly advocating for it. I mean, this goes on and on. Matt Gaetz in September 2021 at Tucker Carlson is correct about replacement theory as he explains what is happening to America. And this isathan included in a statement after this buffalo shooting he he mr gates said that he has never spoken of replacement theory in terms of race that's fun public record oh well so that's the thing they do right so what like it's a sanitized thing they're pretending it's not about race when yeah they pretend that

exactly like they're they're so good at like this kind of you know i didn't say it clearly like they're they're so good at and honestly i almost have to give them credit because they're so good at phrasing these things in a way where there's that plausible deniability where i didn't bring up race y'all made it about race but everybody can see and plainly hear what they're saying and it really is like we need to find a way to talk about this and hold them accountable and not let them weasel out of like what what they're so clearly doing like like him saying he's never talked about it is ludicrous like anybody who's ever listened to him talk knows that's not true but he's able to say it yeah it's um it's very i mean it's embarrassing to see a lot of people sort of like fall for it and uh like run cover for them and also just like

yeah the it's so easy for them to pretend and they can say well we didn't say race specifically but you're being you are being replaced by the way but it's not like about race but like you're being replaced and so like how do you like reconcile those things also and we've talked about this before who cares that like the idea like demographic changes and stuff like that they're not literally replacing you they're not taking your place they're not coming here like no one's coming here and like you gotta or like but no one's gonna kill you and take your name and your social security number or even like like more people come here even or even like kill you and take your name and your social security number or even like like more people come here and then they like give you their new person card and they

take away your person card and then you gotta go no they're just here now people are here now it's fine the way it's always been the way it's always been and well but that's the thing the way it's always been is what they don't like uh be like where it has led us or whatever and i think it's it's interesting too like there's a framing of it also that is i think not quite right that tucker carlson is like radicalizing these people it's not necessarily that he's radicalizing them it's just he's he's chasing this audience right people want justification for how they're feeling they want justification and he's giving it to them. And I think for the most part, people maybe don't even fucking understand what's happening.

They feel attacked. They don't see that how white privilege has helped them in any capacity. And it's heartbreaking because a lot of these people are suffering under the same system that's oppressing black people and mother minorities. And they don't see it because it's been like, actually subversively pitting people against each other for so long. And that's the identity they grow up with. And it's really difficult and heartbreaking to sit down and try to have these conversations with people, especially I mean, not that we always get an opportunity to, but like, it's just so convoluted and they are, there's so many defenses that go up and you can't get to the real root of the problem. And it's all again, based on fear. Yeah. And, and, and there's, um, I feel like we've,

I've mentioned this before. There's this, they always leave out the last part, uh, like Tucker Carlson, Jordan Peterson has done this before he's shared articles about like these studies that have been done on like diversity and the dangers of diversity and how it makes people more tribal and uh you know it encourages like violence and conflict and stuff and it's always they always leave off the last half which is that and then it's fine um and then people work it out because that's like what human beings have done, tried to do at least for as long as they've existed. We're still here. And, you know, like the study that Jordan shared once was like, yeah, the conclusion was that like over time, it's actually beneficial socially, economically, in all these aspects. aspects in the long term once that tension is dissolved uh we did a piece early on in this show about a tucker carlson segment specifically he read some article in national geographic

about this town called hazlet in hazlet pennsylvania and it was about like all these uh hispanic uh immigrants coming to this town and like his his framing was like and you know they didn't nobody voted for this like they didn't vote for this to happen. It just happened. And like, they're taking away all their lives and stuff like that. And his whole segment was about this article and how bad this was for this town. And so I read the article. And the last half of the article that he did not mention was like these quotes from all these Hazlitt residents like, yeah, you know, it was a little uh bad at first uh you know people coming into like my my my barber shop um but now like i can kind of speak

uh spanish a little bit and it's neat like all these people like realizing how neat it is to like meet other people and like live with other people um how much better the internet is with diversity. And by just by simply not mentioning any of that, he didn't mention a single quote like that. And there are many in the article. It just shows how utterly dishonest they are about this entire thing. Absolutely. And I think, you know, I work on disinformation issues for a living. work on disinformation issues for a living. And like what you all just articulated is exactly how bad actors and people who want to use fear to spread hate and keep everybody inflamed and keep keep inflaming all of these tensions for their own personal gain. This is just like right out of

their playbook. And so, you know, you said earlier how it really is about grounding people in these fears that they might have that may very well be legitimate, right? Like people may very well feel like, oh, I, as a white person, am being overlooked for people of color, whatever. They might truly feel that way, but the way to solve it is not to inflame that tension. It's not to make it worse. And I think, you know, Cody, the example that you just brought up about the article, that does not surprise me at all because bad actors, they want us to be divided because they know that once we all are united, we are stronger together. So the people in that town who were like, actually, these folks aren't that bad. Like, I like their food. They seem nice to me, whatever. That's what Tucker Carlson doesn't want, right? Because people wouldn't be tuned in if they're, if they're not, you know,

grounded in their fear. And so he makes money by having an audience and a listen and a, and a base that is grounded in fear. And so that he has to do that to make sure that he doesn't lose his audience base. Like nine times out of 10 bad actors and people who spread lies and hate and disinformation, they're just scam artists. They're doing it because it personally benefits them

in some material way. And, you know, I think we need to start calling it what it is. He's a scammer. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, he's a scam artist, fascist propagandist. I would also feel comfortable calling him that.

And he knows what he's doing and he knows that it works for him. There's a reason that like he disappeared for many, many years and came back and is popular now because of those sort of things. Because he got rid of the bow tie. He got rid of the bow tie. And now he knows like the kind of things that gets him attention. And and part of it is also like you know every three weeks i'm not saying like it's bad to like let people know about this but like every three weeks there's an

article like tucker carlson did this and we got to get him off the air that's just the attention that he craves he wants he wants it's giving him oxygen like the he wants the mainstream media to attack him in that way so that he can say look the mainstream media hates me therefore there must be a reason it gives it gives him like quote credibility in his audience the same reason those provocateurs people go up on like ben shapiro wants people to come and scream at him while in the audience yeah it was milo yiannopoulos's entire like plant like plan that was his whole strategy just like that was his whole thing yeah get poke the beast so you get a clip that's shareable whatever it is it gives them oxygen and i know they're an easy

target but i think the mainstream media dropped the ball with like we're seeing articles now like what is great replacement theory and why was this in a manifesto whereas like and it was mentioned very briefly but like the the guys the guys, you know, marching in Charlottesville, chanting Jews will not replace us. That was the opportunity to say, here's what they're talking about. Instead it was like, no, no, no, this is some French thing. Ignore it. It's over there.

It's over there. It's just like these hundred people. And then Trump who said it was fine. But, and everyone, we're all, we're all the good people against it. And it's like, that would have been the time to be like, here's why they are saying Jews will not replace us. And right. Here's why they're saying it.

And here's why it doesn't matter. Like, not that they're saying it doesn't matter, but like the things that they're worried about don't actually matter. Because also like every year, like you'll see in the new york times like uh look at all the demographic changes white people will be a minority and blah blah blah dot dot dot and here's why it doesn't matter yep uh like that's the that's an important part of it too who the shrug who cares yeah they did this and then they but they had to move on as soon as trump said some other dumb thing and sure there's also part of that, but you're completely correct.

It's a really good point. And for our listeners, who I think by now have gleaned a bunch, if you didn't know, about replacement theory, I'm going to read a little bit from this piece from The Atlantic

because this stuff is not new. It's been around a long time. In 1916, the American immigration restrictionist Madison Grant published the passing of the Great Race, which argued that immigration was destroying America's time. In 1916, the American immigration restrictionist Madison Grant published the passing of the Great Race, which argued that immigration was destroying America's traditional quote Anglo-Saxon population and along with it, the tradition of self-governance. Grant's ideas

were popular and influential. They provided the impetus for racist immigration laws passed in the 1920s, which sought to limit not only African and Asian immigration, but also that of Eastern and Southern Europeans who were deemed genetically inferior to their Northern European counterparts. Adolf Hitler cited these racist laws as an inspiration. And a little further in the article, there are two versions of the replacement conspiracy theory, but both of them share the same basic premise. The first version is the idea that a secret cabal, typically one that is composed of Jews, is fostering demographic change in the United States through immigration in order to replace its white population. The second is that liberals are fostering demographic change in the United States through immigration in order to replace

its white population. Both conceive of America as fundamentally white and Christian, and in doing so posit not only a racial conception of citizenship, but a racial hierarchy, one that must be maintained if America's true nature is to endure. I'm sure you gleaned that from the conversation, but there you go. There's a little history and context. It's not new. It's not surprising.

It feels silly to even try to debunk it, but that's not what's happening. Oh, boy. Okay. And Jonathan said something earlier that I just really wanted to lift up, which is that we do have a media climate where we unfortunately can't really always trust traditional media outlets to call this stuff what it is. Like you, you talked about how, you know, Charlottesville would have been the time to, to pick apart great replacement theory. Think about how many years, like how long we had to watch traditional mainstream media outlets talk about critical race theory as if it was actually some big threat and allow for like that to be an issue

that had both sides as opposed to debunking it thoroughly right like i think that we really need to have like like we should be able to have a media that we can count on to actually call something what it is if something is a nonsense conspiracy theory grounded in anti-semitism and racism you can just say that there's not two to that. You don't have to give one side, you know, be like, oh, well, maybe they've got some good points or like the truth is somewhere in the middle. That's irresponsible.

And I think like we need to contend with the vast disservice that a lot of folks in media have done by allowing these attitudes and these ideas to make it seem as if they're, you know, reasonable when they're not. Yeah. I mean, every single conversation we have nowadays is always that sort of like, well, maybe they're, you know, reasonable when they're not. Yeah. I mean, every single conversation we have nowadays

is always that sort of like, well, they, maybe they, there's something there. And usually there's not. There's some discord logs from the Buffalo shooter that mention what the quote is like, something like, there's no problem with LGB people. Notice the T is missing. Until pedophiles and groomers joined and started

to indoctrinate our children. All these conversations that the Republican Party is encouraging and having, let's just say who is doing that, are part of this. And there doesn't seem to be a way or an ability to like really push back on it in a meaningful way for people who aren't already like well that's ridiculous yeah you know i just don't know like i haven't seen people be like oh actually now that you explain it and how like that's ridiculous i i can't believe i i believe these people honestly it's hard when what you have to say is going to anger half the country

because then they send you mean tweets and emails and those are hard to do. And so I think newspaper writers and magazine writers and broadcasters try to find a way that's not going to upset a bunch of people when you say, look, there is one side that's doing this. That's that's that's building up these ideas and getting people killed. these ideas and getting people killed. And it's also really hard to push back against the lack of facts in this country, because you can talk to people and they might not trust your information that you have. And look, I get it. I get why people don't trust mainstream media or any of the medias. But you have to you have to trust something and you have to be able to look at something

and read the facts and discern yourself do your own research and trust and like and understand that there are but like it's it's difficult it's difficult to contend with a lack of consensus on what fact is and i think that that's probably that's always been true to some extent but it's really true right now and amplified and made worse we need to take a quick break oh good but we're gonna come back and we're gonna keep talking about this all right everybody relax okay i'm relaxed okay time for some i'm relaxed advertisement time good hello this is professor scott bug the human body is basically just a series of shoots and hooks.

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because he doesn't think Twitter's being honest about how many spam bots are on the platform. Twitter says it's probably like 5%. Could be higher. And Musk says it's probably like 5% Could be higher And Musk says it's probably 20% Look guys He already told them he was buying it Do you think maybe he could have

For such a big deal Where he needed to get money from Qatar and trying to Get billions and billions of dollars Maybe he could Think about this before he makes the offer and signs the contract somebody said it's like it's like buying a house and waiving the home inspection like maybe he could have just thought about that beforehand maybe it seems and

like maybe like he realizes he's like losing a lot of money actually and like all these stocks are tanking and it's gonna turn into him losing money and maybe he wants to back out of it and he's trying to find any reason to do so and he's gonna tweet whatever because the people that love him are gonna love him no matter what in the first place i feel like he tweeted about it and everybody got up in arms and he's like okay challenge accepted yeah it's trump shit trump didn't want to be the president. Trump shit all the way. Then he fucking had to do it. He hated it. Bridget, I feel like this is a topic that you've got a lot to say on, so I'm going to throw to you.

Yeah, I mean, I kind of agree with both of you. Part of me thinks that, I don't know, like, Elon Musk, kind of like, it's interesting that you compared him to Trump because I think he, similar to Trump, he's someone that's really difficult to take at his word because he'll just say whatever and tweet whatever. And I think he wants to create a climate where everybody's talking about a will they, won't they with regards to him buying Twitter. His point about, oh, I'm not going to be able to have a deal until Twitter is clear about how many inauthentic accounts are on the platform. I was doing podcast episodes about that shit like two years ago. So this is not news. If you were really serious about buying Twitter, you would have already known this because average people already know this. And so I completely agree with you. I think that he is kicking up a lot of dirt because now he realizes, oh, this is actually going to be really expensive.

And even if I do it, it it's gonna be kind of a headache there's no way that it's successful for him it doesn't hurt him it's already tesla stocks have tanked well like the problems like what you're talking about like the problems that he will face by yeah in this company he are hard he's not going to like the decisions that he'll have to make even in like because he doesn't want the site to turn into 4chan if he does then it's 4chan uh and uh he's just going to like in what like charging people for x and y like it's he's he's gonna he know i think he knows that like it will be hard and he'll do a bad job which will lose him even more money right and people have got our start.

I mean, not starting. People have been seeing it, but it's just foolish. This is foolish. This isn't smart. He tries to create this image of this genius, innovative, out-of-the-box thinker, but his tweets are like poop emojis. Literally, he tweets poop emojis. He's not anything special.

He hasn't created anything. Also, I feel like this is neither here nor there, and I have not seen people talk about it. Maybe I missed it. You know that whole Sports Illustrated issue that everyone Jordan Peterson tweeted about. I don't know what he's mad about. Elon Musk's mom is in there, apparently.

Oh, yeah. She's one of the covers. She's like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. This is getting buried in the conversation. Presumably, since Jordan Peterson didn't mention it, he's really into that.

Really into it. He's into Miss Musk. Elon's mom. His other tweet, he almost tweeted, sorry, very beautiful. Everyone can just say, you're mom. Elon's mom. His other tweet, he almost tweeted, sorry, very beautiful. Everyone can just say your mom to Elon Musk now. Anyway, so look, if he doesn't do it, he's supposed to like pay a billion dollars.

He'll never do it. He'll never do it. I don't think he's going to do it. And like you said, I mean, it's platform moderation and content moderation is complicated, right? Like some of the early ideas he was throwing out about how he was going to run Twitter, people have already tried that and they've tried it years ago and it didn't work.

So it's interesting to me, kind of like what you were saying, it's like somebody who just got to the party who doesn't even know what's going on, talking loudly about something they don't understand. That's what I see when i see elon musk like you he has so much confidence in something that trust me is like much more complicated much more complex than i think he realizes but he just has this unearned confidence like surprise surprise white bro in tech has unearned confidence but i think that's what it is even uh one thing whenever even when he's like kind of right it's like yeah obviously what like you're not there's a tweet he did about

the like the algorithm and your feed if you have a problem with your feed you should go here go here go here and make it live make it so you're getting the most updated tweets instead of like this this algorithmic feed and it's like yeah man yeah

we all feel like we've talked we've talked about that before like what do you we've i've seen screenshots floating around giving that advice years ago so like where you been congratulations he's doing one of those threads like here's 10 iphone tips i guarantee you don't know and it's all like here's how to make sure they don't track you it's like yeah dude i feel like you gotta you gotta like go through a bunch of like uh ads about celebrities to find the next button to go to the next page to get the next tip. You won't believe what Marsha Brady's done. Sometimes they trick you into clicking on a slideshow and it's 40 pages instead of just one.

Exactly. Here's how to, like, God, yeah, man. Why don't you tell us about the Wayback machine right now yeah i can't get over the fact that half of these these musk super fan boys would just be so turned off of him if they ever hung out with him for like 20 minutes if they ever had the opportunity to sit down and get a beer with elon musk they'd be like the fuck is this guy it's my thought oh but he's a republican now i okay this is yep here we go well it's time to talk about cody's tweet too but oh good which one god um the left got a little too pc so i changed all my opinions about the economy social issues systemic racism health care and history and

the environment let's see and the environment it's uh well no i didn't have that in the tweet and if i had an edit button elon i'd add it but he's so he's a liar and a fraud in many many ways and i think that uh if you look at his public statements and his actions that's very clear we don't need to go down the list but in his tweet about voting republican now he discusses how he thought the democratic party used to be the the party of the kindness party is what he called them which is just like are you five like what how do you like function in politics but now the democrats are the party of hate and division and so i'm voting republican so a few things about this first First of all, the idea that the Republican Party isn't a party of hate and division is like laughable on its face. There's so many examples

that show that he has no idea what he's talking about or is very openly and willfully lying about it. But earlier that day, before he tweeted that, he was doing an interview on camera and there's a video of him discussing the problems with the democrats and the problems with the democrats to him are they're in the pocket of the unions and class action lawyers and then the problems with republicans are uh what was it like religious zealotry i think yeah pro like corporatism and religious zealotry and so i'm gonna vote republican now that's what he said um interesting uh that the thing he has a problem with the democrats are they're pro-union stuff which is very interesting considering like

will chris smalls going to the white house very recently a lot of that stuff going on that tracks and yeah tracks very well with uh what again what we know of his actions and statements and the class action stuff the class action lawsuits against him and tesla and they're basically segregated like factories a lot of racism in these factories and it resulted in a class action lawsuit against him that's true that's there's a lot there's multiple yeah incidences and stories like egregious accounts of racism and segregation. And anyway, it sounds like hell. And just knowing that those are things that he has had to deal with at his company. It just speaks volumes to what he's really talking about. Yeah. Yeah, it does.

He wants to be able to do all these sort of things. And I think he also has an idea that, you know, for the next 20, 30 years, Republicans are probably going to be the ones in power. We'll see how the midterms go and how 2024 goes. Maybe he's right. But it seems like he's banking on that. And so he's publicly saying, like, well, I'm going to be I'm going to throw my support behind the party that I know will benefit me. He knows that their policies benefit him. So it's very funny that he's like saying that. And like he's like after saying that, like, yeah, pro-corporate and religious zealotry.

And so I'm going to throw my weight behind them is just very funny. Also, the fact that the Republican Party doesn't openly believe in climate change or doing anything about it and has been the only party in the world, in the world, political party that just denied it for decades and decades and decades. in the world political party that just denied it for decades and decades and decades um he got into a big like he's been upset and whining for a week about not tesla not being included in some fucking like right s&p list about climate well it's not just about climate it's also about like equity in the workplace and stuff and that's why they got taken off that's why they got taken off. That's why he got taken off of it. There you go, Elon. So that like amidst whining about not being on that list and claiming like no company has done more for climate change than Tesla, which is a claim that he made. Citation needed Elon. And at the same time, he's throwing his weight behind the Republican Party that just deny climate change or doing anything about it is just again, it just illustrates what an absolute fraud he is. But I think it's especially funny that earlier that day when he did the video, basically like, yeah, Democrats like unions and class action lawsuits that affect me personally.

Therefore, I don't like them. I'm going to go over here. After that, he tweeted the kindness thing because he didn't want to actually say the true part out loud. So his tweet is not what his reasoning is. His reasoning is the union stuff. His tweet was like, oh, they're hateful and divisive. It's just he's such a he's such a fucking lying prod in such an obvious, transparent way. What's so annoying about that is like, and like there are people that you could show that to like,

here's a video of him saying one thing and him tweeting something else. Doesn't that seem suspicious to you? They'd be like, no, I love him. He had such like, I don't know how he has this like insulation of like fan boys who will go to their graves defending him just by seeing evidence in their face. It is wild

to me. It's Peterson. It's Trump. Just like those guys, he's upset because the people he wants to love him do not love him anymore. Grimes. You know, liberal politicians, liberals who

buy Tesla and are like, oh, this guy's going to save the world and stuff. They don't like him anymore. He's getting very upset about that but he does have this army of people he disrespects and doesn't really care about and he yeah yeah yeah i mean i just have this theory that he wants to be like a tom hanks like a beloved like person who like is delightful on twitter that everybody loves and he'll never be that. I just see him. I don't know him personally, but he just seems so clearly fueled by insecurity. Not like his mom. Who is very secure. She looks great.

Sorry, just had to sneak in some jokes here. So secure that she feels comfortable tweeting defenses of her son from someone. Oh, she's been tweeting about like the thousand follower accounts who were tweeting poor elon and like are they bots are they trolls how is it how can this happen and it's like oh boy also and speaking of division and hate and obviously elon musk has never commented on all the actual divisive hateful things that the right is doing and banning abortion and everything for lgbtq rights and banning books and saying here's what teachers can't say all that division and hate he's fine with that he doesn't care

yeah nothing says that you're anti-division like having a second i was just gonna say like unbelievable i know well so and like all of this talk about twitter and the twitter takeover is certainly distracted from other stories about what, you know, that was the conversation before. Anyway, and it distracted from why he was taken off of that climate, social, whatever. I can't. What was the name of it again? The S&P ESG index. It's just like if you want to invest in something, these are good companies.

Like it's kind of stupid because you can't know what company. Oh, it's just like if you want to invest in something these are good companies like it's kind of stupid because you can't know what company yeah like Exxon Mobil is on there but he did lash out by being removed he did he was pissed it's like not always this case but like that thing where it's like there's a kernel

of truth there that list is bullshit and Exxon Mobil obviously should like be helpful with climate change what the fuck are you talking about but also why how can you whine about this and then say you're gonna like put like the last republican president said that climate change is a chinese hoax what are you talking about man so i'm gonna move on good before we get to broken news i want to touch on a story that was big last week and is big this week still, but we weren't here last week. So there's a baby formula shortage and it's a really big, big deal.

Actually, this there's, you know, and it's I wanted to bring this up because some of the narrative. Well, I could be summed up in this Bette Midler tweet. Try breastfeeding. of the narrative. Well, I could be summed up in this Bette Midler tweet. Try breastfeeding. It's free and available on demand. And lots of people have echoed this and it's so fucking ignorant. Here's a list of people who need formula. Single fathers, families without lactating mothers, women who've had surgery, babies with allergies, babies in foster care, people who have adopted, women who haven't breastfed in months, women who don't want to breastfeed, women who can't. This is a big deal. And actually, I'm not a mother.

I have never experienced this, but I have a lot of friends who are new mothers. Actually getting your baby to latch can be very tricky. And there's so much judgment about breastfeeding, just like any other thing with a woman's body. Everyone has an opinion about what they should or shouldn't do. And sometimes it's just not working. And it's incredibly frustrating and stressful time for a new mother. And it's really overlooked. Also, breastfeeding is expensive and time consuming.

Here's some stats. Breastfeeding is expensive and time consuming. Here's some stats. Mothers who breastfeed for six months or more experience longer and more severe income loss than mothers who formula feed. And the amount of time breastfeeding in a year is nearly equivalent to the hours worked in a full-time job. That's like 1,800 hours for breastfeeding or pumping. Of course, this is just averages and stuff,

but to give you guys an idea of what it means to breastfeed and why it's not an option for everybody. So the fact that there is this shortage is a really big fucking deal. And so yesterday, the House passed a $28 million in emergency funding to address this shortage. 192 Republicans voted against it, which, you know, underscores how they care more about unborn fetuses than actual children. Party of family values.

It's just frustrating. There are reasons why this happened. There's kind of a monopoly on formula in the United States. There's just a few companies. And so something gets tainted. I guess there was, yeah, Kronobactar Sakazaki. If you want someone to pronounce it right, go somewhere else. This is a news podcast, not a grammar spot. Wait, this isn't a grammar spot?

It's not a grammar spot. What you say? No grammar? I feel like we advertise this as a grammar spot. Well, we're going to have to fix that even more why first and only news podcast and your only grammar spot chronobacter saccazaxi anyway um it's fucked up a lot of people are freaking out rightfully so it seems like things are being done about it though that's good things are starting to be done about it um it's going to take a long time i think like two weeks i think before that abbott factory to reopen and then begin getting product out but like i'm reading

stories this isn't the main but for example people there was this one thing, a story article I read, um, and a mom has like a three-year-old autistic daughter and she just, she can't eat anything else. She won't, there's, so she's, she's on formula and some other thing. And she's now had to be hospitalized and had a tube put in so that they can feed her. And she doesn't understand, you know. It's really – and that's apparently in this article anecdotal, but, you know, talking to different nurses and ERs, I think they were saying like, yeah, multiple people a day are coming in asking for help or maybe they have food or something.

It's heartbreaking. I know a friend of mine just had a baby and her baby needs formula and she's really freaking out right now. But yes, help is coming, but not thanks to the pro-life party. And I also think like, I'm so glad that you talked about, I don't know. I think that we sell this lie of parenthood, especially motherhood that, because I think if we told the truth, nobody would have a child. The truth is your government doesn't give a fuck about you.

Their government gives you no support. It's incredibly hard. When you need support, all you get is judgment, right? And I think that like, that's the truth about motherhood for a lot of folks. And it is like, that B bet midler tweet made me so angry because it's like so clear that she believes this lie that like oh when you have a baby all like it's so easy to just have your child latch and like the milk just comes and all of that like it's so incorrect and it does such a

disservice to parents and moms in particular who are really struggling. Like people that I know who have kids, they are not okay. They have had a terrible few years and they have all been, they've been all but like abandoned and forgotten. And, you know, I think that like, when I think about that formula shortage, what really bums me out is the way that folks on the right have just really in this gross way used it as a way to get partisan, like to like knock Biden as if, as if we're not talking about like, like, I mean, the fact of the matter is the reason why we're having these formula shortages is because of private companies, right? It's because it's because, and so like, like I do think that,

that the Biden administration, like, I'm glad that help is coming. But where are the messengers who are making that point clear to folks? Like, well, here's why we have these shortages. And here's where your anger should go. And like, let's have the conversation about whether more government resources need to be expended to make sure that babies get formula, if that's what you want. Like, where are the public messengers who are reframing the narrative and not just letting extremists run with this partisan bullshit that the reason why it's happening is because of the Biden administration? Yep. Echoing all of that. Thank you for saying all of that. Yeah, the only message I've seen on it, I think, is from Pete, Mayor Pete Buttigieg. Oh, Pete. about how like we're look we're a capitalist country all right do you we we don't we the government isn't going to make baby formula we got the companies to do that and that's just like how it is it seems not a great message uh people seem to like it though i'm probably paraphrasing uh uncharitably probably it doesn't matter it's it's sneaky pete um okay jonathan your time to shine as if you haven't been shining so very bright this whole episode.

But I'm going to throw to you for some broken news. So I do have a few things pre-planned, but something broke while we've been recording. And it's, remember how Elon Musk said there were about to be some vicious attacks against him? Ruh-roh, what happened? This was just published within the last hour we can cut it if you end up not liking it uh a spacex flight attendant said elon musk exposed himself and

propositioned her for sex documents show the company paid 250 000 for her silence a yeah there it is two days, he got a request for comment. And then he's like, I'm a Republican now. There's going to be vicious attacks. Because there were so many tweets of his in the past few days. I was going to mention that there's a story coming. There's a story coming. That he doesn't want you to know.

I am so glad this happened while we were recording. So to get these live reactions. I can't believe you even thought that we might want to cut it. Well, you know, we're unprepared for this. This incident took place in 2016. The details in this story are drawn from a declaration signed by a friend of the flight attendant and prepared in support of her claim.

After Insider contacted Musk for comment, he emailed to ask for more time to respond and said there is a lot more to this story. Politically motivated hit piece, blah, blah, blah. This is going to be real ugly. He offered her apparently a horse in exchange for an erotic massage.

I'm sorry, what? Oh my god. I'm sorry, what did you just say? offered she he offered her a horse the declaration says that he was completely naked except for a sheet covering the lower half of his body he exposed his genitals and then touched her and offered to buy her a horse if she would quote do more referring to the performance of sex acts first of all yuck sorry to that woman yeah the first and foremost the most important thing is that someone was victimized and she was brave enough to do this and now there's going to be an ugly discourse online about it go ahead cody very weird man and way to do that like what a weird offer and way to go about it reminds me of

what was it the guy that was doing his flight logs he offered him oh yeah he offered him like five thousand dollars the fuck you're a billionaire so that's so that's what a lowball offer five thousand dollars you care enough to reach out but you're offering me that it's insulting you offered this woman a horse well then he offered her two hundred fifty thousand dollars to not talk about so yeah she this says that she things could just go back to normal and she would pretend like nothing happened however she started to feel as if she was receiving some sort of retaliation where her shifts were cut back and she was starting to feel really stressed uh two thousand this is horrifying dollars i just you could tell from his tweets that this was coming within oh yeah days what

it's uh quicker than i thought i guess yeah piece of shit it's hard to sit here and make jokes about it I'm furious and I'm thinking about this woman who is going to have a hard time yeah I I wouldn't be like I am thinking about her because we know how Elon Musk's supporters are and I just I'm my heart is going out to her because I I it's yeah I don't think don't think that we've created a climate where for anybody to speak up about these kinds of experiences is really tough. But especially to speak up about these kinds of experiences regarding somebody like Elon Musk. With the fandom. And look, we haven't talked about the Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial here yet. We will at some point.

There is a lot to unpack. But as you're telling me this, I can't. The ugliness that we're seeing play out regarding that conversation. Again, we will unpack it maybe next week even. But I'm just bracing already. Yeah, fandoms are bad. This is going to be a similar situation. And he knew what he was doing.

He knows that he was prepping his followers to not believe anything that came out and they will react in the way that one would expect them to. Okay. Probably, right? Jonathan, give us another broken news story, please. And thank you.

Yeah, let me go through some 2022 primary results from some primaries this week. Freshman Congressman Madison Cawthorn lost in his primary to North Carolina State Senator Chuck Edwards. Smell you later. Yeah, so he's gonna be done.

I now believe after the campaign against him that he was completely right about the coke parties oh for sure i i doubted him at first now now i believe him pennsylvania lieutenant governor john fetterman won the democratic primary for senator uh blowing out representative connor lamb he had a stroke over the weekend but said he's recovering well. He's going to face either Dr. Oz or Dave McCormick for the seat. Those guys are currently 0.1% apart, so there might be an automatic recount. McCormick could overtake him soon based on where the remaining ballots are. And Trump told Oz apparently to just declare victory.

Yeah, of course he did. Yeah, no real surprises there. And then Douglas Mastriano won the nomination, the Republican nomination for Pennsylvania governor. He's a 2020 election denier. He was at the Stop the Steal rally on January 6th. And he said he'd appoint a secretary of state who wouldn't have, what is it, confirmed the electoral count in that state.

So we really got to hope that he loses in November so we get fair elections in Pennsylvania. in a very blatant way that is more planned than last time where they're just going to be like they're going to try to steal a lot of elections it seems and they want to and their excuse is well you try to do it you did it in 2020 so we're going to do it to you in 2024 and that's their excuse that they're giving themselves and seems like a lot of these elections in 2022 which is this year good job cody are going to have an effect on that um i don't know seems bad seems bad seems potentially bad yeah yeah give us give us give us george bush yeah okay let me share my screen and uh we can end on this oh baby this is this fun this surreal fever dream of a clip that i wish this was a live reaction maybe never actually can everyone see my screen is it a deep fake we'll find out god

all right let's do this in contrast, Russian elections are rigged. Political opponents are imprisoned or otherwise eliminated from participating in the electoral process. The result is an absence of checks and balances in Russia and the decision of one man to launch a wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq. I mean, of Ukraine. Iraq. Anyway. Oh, my.

75. God. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha. The old man made a funny slip up I mean what's there to say this is such a

remember a couple weeks ago we were talking about like Trump's mannerisms and stuff this is such a bush thing like the verbal slip up then like immediately correcting himself the look in his eyes and then the little sheepish sheepish well I'll get, and then the little... Sheepish.

Sheepish. Well, I'll get it. And then everyone laughing along, old folksy man talking about his war crimes. Oh, baby. It still doesn't seem like it's real. Do you think it haunts him? Do you think it came out because it haunts him and he's been thinking about it a lot?

I mean, that's why he paints, right? Allegedly. Well, really, he paints to get rid of the i mean doesn't he doesn't he paint uh he does paint we're making the connection soldiers and stuff right because of i assume because of his like guilt that maybe is not going to be uh going to have us all that he did a bad thing by painting like like i don't think that's gonna do it man um but yeah i think that's part of why at least Going to heaven? That he did a bad thing? By painting. I don't think that's going to do it, man. But yeah, I think that's part of why, at least, he paints. Seems like it's still on his mind.

Yeah, man. I guess. I'm not sure that painting's going to do it. I mean, it's good to know that he associates unjustified invasion and brutal war with Iraq. That's good to know. Yeah. We're assuming he does. I mean, yeah, it could have just been another, he could have said zebra, you know,

it could have just been a word floating around the old noggin. Well, that was fun. That was a fun way to end this fun episode. I swear I kind of forgot about all of his little mannerisms like um jonathan you did his laugh and i was like oh yeah he had that little like like i kind of forgot about that until just now yeah it's this weird like southern weasel kind of thing like he's a like he's a little stinker you know yeah yeah yeah i'm a little scam like war crime stuff i've never understood scamp because like aren't they from crime stuff. I've never understood it. Sold to the earth, scamp.

Because aren't they from Connecticut? I've never understood the Texas vibe. What's the deal? Is it cosplay? I've never understood it. Yeah, I think it's that when they moved down to Texas, he kind of, I guess, appropriated or just took on this folksy. Or absorbed it or whatever. Yeah, absorbed this little folksy.

You know, you're a theater person you go to uh you go to europe for a year and you come back and you suddenly have a british accent he's a method actor guys he's method like a kid who just did study abroad and now he's spelling favorite with a u laugh like this okay i think that does it for us today bridget it's been wonderful having you here. Please tell our listeners where they can find you online, plug your work, all the things. Yeah, please check out my podcast.

It's called There Are No Girls on the Internet. You can find it on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast on. You can follow me on Twitter at Bridget Marie or on Instagram at Bridget Marie in DC. Do it. Do the following things. Thank you again for joining us.

Thank you guys for listening. I'm sorry. Cody's got something to say. I'm sorry. It's just. So I just have one addendum. The Elon Musk story that we just discussed, for those interested,

they reached out to the principles of the of the article uh for comment regarding a story at about 9 a.m uh wednesday may 18th and elon musk's tweet about how political attacks on him will be escalating dramatically in coming months was uh about 20 minutes later oh my god uh depending on time zone stuff i'm not sure uh if the time zones line up or where he was 9 a.m eastern uh and then he tweeted it uh 12 22 this is a good addendum thank you for interrupting the outro sorry it just seemed important nope don't ever apologize that's good advice i will never apologize ever no no that specifically. No, no, no. Stop listening. Nope. We're going to have to talk about this later when Bridget's not here. Never apologize.

Jonathan, you're fine. All right. Okay, guys. We will be back next week. And don't forget, we love you very much. Musk. Sorry. I will apologize for that.

Much. Much. for that. Much.