Some More News - Some More News: JD Vance's Weird Nazi Lie About Haitian Migrants
Episode Date: October 16, 2024Sources: ...
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Here's some news.
Don't worry folks, we're keeping it light again today.
A couple of weeks ago, we distracted ourselves
from the dreaded election by just clowning
on the Cybertruck for an hour.
And so this week we're keeping that accelerator stuck,
going full throttle after we activate a few screens
and authenticate our touch key app lock,
and then troubleshoot until we realize
we need the latest patch update, which we can't download
because the update is what we need
in order to get the wifi to work.
Indeed, vroom vroom, we're looking at the election
and going full speed away,
covering our anxious reality with fingerprint smudges,
something that's like rust, but isn't rust
and complete denial that anything else
is going on in the news right now. We decided to spend this episode mostly just talking
about cute animals.
It's gonna be a real adorable one, folks.
We're talking cats, we're talking dogs,
we're talking all kinds of pets.
Do we have a clip?
In Springfield, they're eating the dogs,
the people that came in, they're eating the cats,
they're eating, they're eating the pets of the people that came in, they're eating the cats, they're eating, they're eating the pets
of the people that live there. Oh no.
But oh yes, that was indeed former president and possible future president again,
Donald John Melius Trump, waxing poetic to the entire nation
about how immigrants are eating people's pets.
He was alluding to some specific places
and a specific alleged real-world problem
in order to highlight a broad concern
and to make a broader point about the issue of immigration
to the American people.
In this case, that specifically in Springfield, Ohio,
immigrants are eating people's pets.
They're eating the dogs.
They're eating the cats.
They're eating.
They're eating the pets, as he said.
And it's because of the Democrats
that millions of immigrants are here.
And Joe Biden sent hundreds of thousands of them
across the country.
And in many cases, Kamala Harris bust thousands of them
in herself.
Do we have a clip?
Not how it goes. The least how it goes it's ever been.
I don't think I'm being uncharitable when I say that the broad point being made by Trump's example is,
immigrants are a threat to your way of life. The savages are no longer at the wall, which is
unclear if we still need to build,
but they are in your neighborhoods eating your pets.
And I don't think I'm being unreasonable by saying
that if you hadn't been following politics online
for the previous few days, or as we'll learn,
weeks and months, then you probably watched the former
and current one of two candidates to be president say
that immigrants are eating people's dogs and cats,
and you probably thought something like,
wait, what?
Did he just say they're eating people's pets?
You might've even then thought,
that's a fucked up thing to say.
But this is supposed to be a really cute episode about pets.
So let's go to Trump's pet with Trump's pet's pet
And that person seen there just after being explained leashes for the first time, although
he is not the originator of the claims, has claimed ownership of them.
Obviously, Trump said it, and he says a lot of bizarre and terrible things.
But by all accounts, JD Vance has become the face of the immigrants are eating your pets
media story in that he purports to believe it, spread it,
quadrupled down on it, and continues to be trotted out
by Trump's campaign in support of it.
Whether or not it's even true.
The American media totally ignored this stuff
until Donald Trump and I started talking about cat memes.
If I have to create stories
so that the American media actually pays attention
to the suffering of the American people,
then that's what I'm going to do, Dana, because you guys are completely letting Kamala Harris coast.
You just said that this is a story that you created.
So the eating dogs and fasting is not actually...
We are creating, we are... Dana, it comes from first-hand accounts from my constituents.
I say that we're creating a story,
meaning we're creating the American media focusing on it.
It would be nice occasionally if a Dana Bash type
would prod a little further when presented
with these types of vague cutesy phrasings deployed
to elude description.
Okay, you're saying it's just cat memes.
Describe the memes. What are they alluding to?
What are they insinuating?
What is the message of the meme?
That's what memes are, right?
Little cultural messengers, sometimes jokes, often propaganda.
Because the message of these just cat memes seems to be
that Donald Trump is going to save the civilized people
from the pet eating savages
who've been sneakily brought here by nefarious forces.
More on all that later, but to be clear and fair
and the other one, JD is not saying
that the stories aren't true or that they are true,
but that they're not kind of untruthfully false.
It's like jazz, it's the lies you don't tell.
Or as we'll see, the lies you just keep on telling, man.
You gotta stop, JD.
You just, you gotta stop, man.
JD later clarified the meaning of his
I make media stories admission later at a rally.
What I said is that we create media stories.
In other words, we focus the people's attention on what's already going on. at a rally. and tell me that these are stories made up by politicians.
These are stories that people have been living for months
or in some cases years.
The only thing that got all the trouble I did
is highlighted and focus on
so you guys would stop ignoring the American people.
I challenge ya, living, totally natural.
But also, all y'all gotta calm down there, fellas.
He didn't say he made up stories, even though yes he did.
He simply is saying that he said,
we create media stories, which again,
sounds like lying for the purposes of propaganda.
But his definition of what he's doing,
which we will take in good faith for no good reason
because he doesn't deserve it it is, in his words,
we focus the people's attention on what's already going on.
Sorry, going on.
But okay then, let's do that.
What was already going on that the Donald Trump
will save immigrants from eating your cats memes
needed to bring the people's attention to?
What was already going on?
Where were these claims even coming from?
How did JD Vance first try to focus the people's attention
on what's already going on?
Well, in early September, he tweeted,
months ago, I raised the issue of Haitian illegal immigrants
draining social services and generally causing chaos
all over Springfield, Ohio.
Reports now show that people have had their pets abducted
and eaten by people who shouldn't be in this country.
Where is our border czar?
Now this is true.
He did bring up the issue of Haitian migrants a bit earlier.
Not about pets being abducted and eaten by foreign invaders,
but about foreign invaders taking everybody's homes and stuff.
We will absolutely Omega promise to get back to that one instance of him bringing that up.
But first, we want to get to the bottom of the media story he's creating
in order to focus on what's really going on.
As he wrote in the tweet on the website Twitter,
reports are showing that people who shouldn't be
in this country are abducting and eating other people's pets.
As his running mate and our former president said a day later,
They're eating the dogs, the people that came in.
They're eating the cats.
They're eating, they're eating the pets
of the people that live there.
That was September 10th. So close. And live there. That was September 10th.
Ah, so close.
And Vance's tweet was September 9th.
So this moment from Donald Trump
appears to be some sort of trickle up situation.
Trump got it from JD.
And so where did Vance get it from?
To hear JD tell it, it's from his constituents.
His constituents who moved there over the last few years,
of course not.
They don't count because they can't legally vote for him.
But then I also thought that all these migrants
were imported here to illegally vote.
So I guess they do vote.
So they are your constituents.
So I guess you should care.
Also, they're human beings living in Ohio.
So consider that too.
Anyway, before September 9th,
you may have seen a few very popular posts
containing rumors about this. For example, on September 7th, you may have seen a few very popular posts containing rumors about this.
For example, on September 7th, this professional fraud and liar, Ian Miles Cheong, posted about
this woman from Ohio who ate a cat, coyly adding, how does something like this happen?
Now, this woman did apparently kill someone's cat and attempt to eat it in front of people.
This woman, however, is not from Springfield,
but rather Canton, Ohio.
And this woman who happens to be black
is also not a Haitian migrant.
Now you may be saying,
but Ian didn't say she was Haitian or an immigrant
or that being Haitian was bad.
He merely asked how something like that happens.
To which I say, you fucking rube, you absolute slob brain.
All you need to do is look at the top reply,
a blue check of course, thank you, Elon,
which asks, drugs?
To which that wormy little guy replied, worse, Haitians.
But that's just one lying fascist propagandist
and one example of Haitians eating pets in Springfield
that turned out to be false. I'm sure there are many more examples
and those ones will be true this time.
And that will be where JD Vance,
a guy who wants to be vice president
of an entire country of people, got his lie from
and then gave it to Donald Trump
who wants to be the president of that entire country.
Going back in time, even further in time,
on September 6th,
a different popular propaganda ex-Blue account and Wokeness,
which is likely just neo-Nazi collaborator
and fascist rat-fucker Jack Posobic,
posted these two images.
One of a Facebook post and one of a man on a street
holding what appeared to be geese.
Along with the text,
Springfield is a small town in Ohio.
Four years ago, they had 60,000 residents.
Under Harrison Biden, 20,000 Haitian immigrants
were shipped to the town.
Now ducks and pets are disappearing.
We'll come back to those specific claims later
because they are essentially the claims Vance continues to make.
But right now, we're going to focus on the person who happens to be black
outside carrying what appear to be two geese.
You might be thinking,
how do we know that man is from Springfield?
How do you know that man is Haitian?
How do you know what's up with those geese
or what he's gonna do with those geese?
To which I say,
good point, not a rube.
As it turns out, thanks to an exclusive from, yes, TMZ,
the man is from Columbus, Ohio.
And according to the Ohio Division of Wildlife,
was picking up two geese that were hit in a car accident.
Also, according to that Ohio Division of Wildlife,
there's no evidence that he's an immigrant or Haitian
or was going to eat the geese.
This dovetails with a social media influencer
who attended a Springfield town commission meeting.
In his speech, shared by both Elon Musk and JD Vance,
he mentions the geese rumor as well.
They're in the park, grabbing up ducks by the neck
and cutting their head off and walking off with them
and eating them like.
Some picture and a guy saying it?
Now that's gotta be true.
In a later interview, the person in that clip said,
they don't know anything about the cats and dogs
and the geese thing was actually just a rumor he heard.
So, okay, but you said it was a thing that happened.
You described it like you saw it, but okay, it's a rumor.
We seem to be experiencing the start of a pattern
where JD says that all of these claims, direct quote,
come from firsthand accounts from my constituents.
But that doesn't turn out to be true.
And of course, yes, that lie is still up.
But what about the rest of the lies, you ask?
Good point.
Let's keep digging.
Oh, it's a very shallow hole, excellent.
Okay, so the one on the left is also not true.
The now deleted Facebook post was put up
by Springfield resident Erica Lee on September 5th
and alleged that her neighbor's daughter's friend
had lost their cat and eventually found it dead
and strung up outside one of their Haitian neighbor's homes.
Now, a stolen and dead pet put on display
for the entire neighborhood to see
seems like something that would be
at least reported to the police.
It was not, but it was redacted as a thing that happened.
Lee and her neighbor, Kimberly Newton,
who originally told her the story,
were interviewed by NewsGuard.
And here's what Newton, who the poster heard it from,
told them.
I'm not sure I'm the most credible source. Great start.
Because I don't actually know the person who lost the cat.
The person who lost the cat, she said, was an acquaintance of a friend.
That friend learned about it from not her acquaintance who lost her cat,
but from a source that she had.
She also said, I don't have any proof,
which don't worry, Kimberly, we didn't think you did.
So to sum up, the apparent source
of what former President Trump said was a deleted post
written by a woman who heard it from a neighbor,
who heard it from a friend,
who was an acquaintance of the victim,
but heard about it from someone else.
Just gonna let that breathe.
The poster, Lee, added something that perhaps a lot of people involved in this should be thinking,
even though they won't.
Quote, it just exploded into something
I didn't mean to happen.
Exactly what I said on prom night.
Waka waka.
Anyway, it seems that this Facebook post into something I didn't mean to happen. Exactly what I said on prom night. Waka Waka.
Anyway, it seems that this Facebook post
is where a lot of far right activists
started spreading the rumor up to the president,
former president.
None of it's substantiated of course,
despite people like Christopher Ruffo
literally offering money for any evidence.
Please, Paul, please, you gotta give me some evidence.
I'll be good, I swear.
This offer of thousands of dollars for any evidence
of this pet eating seems to have come up short.
But shoot, let's give it one more shot.
We've lost a whole bunch of cats.
There was a van pulled over that had over a hundred cats
in it with the Haitians.
They said they was eating them.
Actually? Yeah.
Not fake news. Not fake news. A van was collecting cats and eating them. I watched it happen, yeah. Watched them get pulled over with the Haitians. They said they was eating them. Actually. Yeah. Not fake news. Not fake news. So a van was collecting cats and eating them.
I watched it happen. Yeah.
Watch them get pulled over with the cats and admit to the police that they was
eating them. You're not joshing with me. No, I'm almost 50 years old, buddy.
I don't know.
The obviousness, the brazen,
craven lying is pathetic and incredible to see.
It's just two guys like, hey, you lying? Oh, you know I'm lying.
You want to lie with me? Oh, hell yeah, brother. Let's just two guys like, hey, you lying? Oh, you know I'm lying. You wanna lie with me?
Oh, hell yeah, brother.
Let's just keep on lying to each other.
It is tragic and embarrassing that this was posted
and shared and believed by even some people.
You see, you see, you see, the Haitians were in a van.
You know, just some Haitians, right?
And they had a van and in that van was 100 cats.
You hear me? And the police pulled over that van of Haitians and their 100 cats in that van, there's 100 cats, you hear me?
And the police pulled over that van of Haitians
and their 100 cats in the van with them.
And the Haitians told the police,
they were like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, police.
Hey, and they told the police
they were going to eat those 100 cats in their van.
What can you even say at this point?
All of these absurd lies and easily debunked claims
are what vice presidential candidate JD Vance
is propping up.
These are the claims that he's concerned about,
that he thinks are a legitimate useful tool
to bring attention to his real concerns.
But maybe all of these obvious lies and debunked claims
aren't the ones Vance is concerned about.
We don't want to just assume that all of these obvious lies
and debunked claims are the stories
that Vance himself believes or wants you to believe.
Maybe there's some kind of real concrete evidence
about a cat being stolen and eaten by a Haitian migrant
in Springfield, Ohio that he can point to.
And wouldn't you know it, there is.
Yes, a Vance spokesperson actually provided
the Wall Street Journal with an actual police report.
Huzzah.
Of course, it's a little weird
that JD would even bother looking for evidence
since according to him, it doesn't matter if it's true.
And he in fact, by his own admission,
had to invent the story.
But okay, great.
A solemn huzzah, evidence of this legitimate concern.
Not a Facebook post from a woman who had a neighbor
who had a friend who had a source about an acquaintance
of that friend evidence, but still pretty good.
A police report from August about a resident who couldn't find her cat
and so called the police because she thought it might have been taken by her Haitian neighbors.
A resident who, when a journalist simply asked her about it,
revealed that she found the cat a couple days later in her basement.
So... revealed that she found the cat a couple days later in her basement. So thanks to JD for your complete waste of time,
by which I mean you.
That police report, of course,
appears to also have been posted
by the crypto Nazi account, Endwokeness.
That's so weird how he's always just sort of like,
right before the things happen.
Though one should note that end wokeness
slash probably Jack Bacovic tags the account
that obtained the report, an account called oversight PR,
which wouldn't you know it by clicking on it
and looking is an arm of the Heritage Foundation.
So that's interesting.
You know, the Heritage Foundation
that's behind project 2025,
but has nothing to do with Trump or their campaign or plans,
despite all of the evidence to the contrary.
And also here they are providing a police report
so that JD Vance's campaign can keep failing to prove a lie
in order to push for mass deportations.
That one?
Yeah, that one.
Now, at this point, you might be thinking,
hey, quit guessing what I'm thinking.
Also, hey, this is all a bit so very silly.
Because it is.
It's okay to think that, it is very silly.
I'm just gonna say it, okay?
Cancel me if you have to.
I don't think there were 100 cats in that van.
Sorry, but what if I told you that it's not just silly,
but it's also racist?
And no, JD, I don't mean in the Mountain Dew is racist way.
Ha ha ha, chuckle chuckle.
I love you folks.
Yeah, yeah, are so good.
Love ya.
No, what I mean is, well,
remember that clip I showed you of the guy
and the 100 cats in the van and how silly it was?
Well, because we're fair and balanced here,
I didn't want to taint your opinion of the matter
by first showing you an earlier part of that expose
talking to residents of Springfield.
This earlier part.
Don't wave at me, you sorry fucking sand monkey.
Don't worry, he says it more later in the video too.
Interesting dynamic developing here though,
wouldn't you say?
So no, JD, I don't mean Mountain Dew racism,
nor do I really mean in the way
that should already be obvious.
That it's fucked up and racist and weird and bad
to spread unfounded rumors of a few instances of alleged barbarity
in order to demonize an entire group of people.
That's something that JD Vance isn't stupid enough
to not understand.
There's a reason he called Trump America's Hitler,
but we'll get back to that.
Right now, we've got some other different Nazis
to talk about because here's some more news.
A day after the maybe future president again,
Trump said illegal immigrants are eating people's dogs
and cats and pets.
The founder of a neo-Nazi group called Blood Tribe
went on Telegram to declare victory,
writing that Blood Tribe pushed Springfield
into the public consciousness.
Eagle-eared listeners might recognize that
we spread a lie so that people would focus on this place
is almost exactly what JD Vance said he was doing,
creating stories so that people would pay attention
to Springfield.
But we'll come back to that right now.
We're finding out one of the big twists
that the thing that sounded like a racist Nazi lie
turned out to be that.
The neo-Nazi group Blood Tribe has apparently been on the
Haitians are eating your pets beat
for much longer than Riz Master General JD Vance.
While various rumors and complaints started popping up
on local Facebook groups back in late June
about Haitian children chasing ducks and geese,
the savages!
Over the following weeks,
the posts from anonymous users started to veer into,
and now they're eating them territory.
Do we have a clip of the concerned citizens
watching children chase ducks?
They're eating her!
And then they're going to eat me!
Oh my God!
Just the kind of standard level-headed post
one would see on the Facebook.com.
Over the summer, this Nazi group became more intertwined
with the issue of Haitian migration into Springfield, Ohio.
In August, Blood Tribe marched in Springfield under,
say it with me, swastika flags, and,
say it with me, threatened people with, keep saying it with me, guns.
Here's a Springfield resident mentioning it.
We all know about the neo-Nazis just a couple weeks ago being down down.
And I ain't saying that's right and I ain't saying it's wrong.
But let's think about it. I'm 36 years old and in 36 years,
that's the first time I've ever seen
the neo-Nazi rally in our city.
It's okay, you can say it's wrong.
I'm not saying it's right and I'm not saying it's wrong
is a wild thing to say about a neo-Nazi rally.
If you're talking about a neo-Nazi rally
and you say, I'm not saying it's right
and I'm not saying it's wrong,
you're saying it's right. I'm not saying it's wrong? You saying it's right?
Anyway, despite that guy only knowing
about the one neo-Nazi rally
and not saying if it's right or wrong,
there is a neo-Nazi group there.
A couple of weeks after the march,
that particular chapter's leader could be seen
at the Springfield City Commission meeting,
issuing a warning about the migrants.
I've come to bring a word of warning.
meeting issuing a warning about the migrants. I've come to bring a word of warning.
Stop what you're doing before it's too late.
Crime and savagery will only increase with every Haitian you bring in and with it
public frustration and anger.
You sound threatening to me.
Based on the comments I could ask the police to go ahead.
I'm sure I don't need to tell you that. Just sound threatening if you go You sound threatening to me? I'm gonna ask- Based on the comments that I- If I could ask the police to go ahead and-
I'm sure I don't need to tell you that.
Just sound threatening if you go ahead
and just peacefully be removed.
He was promptly removed for the weirdly worded threat
and on account of him being literally a Nazi.
There goes the tolerant left kicking out Nazis.
You may recognize that meeting
because it's the same one attended
by that social media influencer
who said the Haitians were grabbing
and cutting the heads off of and eating ducks from the pond
and then later said it was a rumor
even though he originally just said it was happening.
So a social media influencer
and a Nazi walk into a town hall meeting.
Stop me if you've heard this one before.
Blood tribe posts were put up on Telegram and Gab
in early August, featuring various racial epithets
as well as claims of rumors about Haitian migrants
eating domesticated pets and ducks from ponds.
Then, curiously, right-wing freaks like Endwokeness
and Jack Bassobick started posting
about the rumors in Springfield.
Then JD and Elon did,
even though everything they posted was debunkable lies.
And then, of course...
They're eating the dogs, the people that came in. They're eating the cats.
They're eating, they're eating the pets.
Ah, from the mouths of babes.
Wait, Nazis, from the mouths of Nazis.
Just want to establish that and make it clear.
Donald Trump ranting about how they're eating dogs
and cats and pets is a rumor with zero evidence
perpetuated by Nazis in order to bring attention
to their desire
to mass deport millions of people.
That's what happened here.
And that's just the eating cats claim.
There are other parts of this.
And as JD tried to say,
and then tried to clarify poorly a bunch more times,
he's merely using the eating pets thing,
creating it as he put it,
and can't seem to acknowledge that maybe it's a harmful lie,
but he wants to bring attention to other problems.
Mainly that Kamala Harris and the Biden administration
shipped 20,000 illegal immigrants to Springfield, Ohio.
And those illegal immigrants who may or may not be eating
people's pets are a drain on the community
and our problem drivers and need to be mass deported
because we need to focus on American problems.
And I'm sure JD Vance totally wants to support the programs
and services that the Haitians are taking advantage of
with their thuggish looting, et cetera.
So when we come back, we're going to examine
how these cat memed Haitian migrants
even got to Springfield, Ohio.
Did future former vice president Kamala Harris
bust 20,000 of them from Haiti to Ohio?
Can one drive to Ohio from Haiti?
Where is Haiti?
The Caribbean?
Ooh la la, that sounds nice.
I bet it's nice.
Why come here?
Also, when we come back,
we're gonna find out why Haiti is or isn't nice.
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Welcome back people and other people.
We were just talking about how vice presidential candidate
JD Vance has been working overtime to deck tuple down
on the president yelling on stage
that illegal immigrants are eating people's dogs
and cats and pets.
A claim that originated by vague unsubstantiated rumors
possibly from neo-Nazis in the area
and boosted and pushed further,
definitely by those neo-Nazis in the area.
But this lie that JD Vance continues to lie
is immaterial, remember?
It's not about the eating the cats,
even though keep the cat memes flowing,
it's about the concern regarding the 20,000 Haitian migrants
that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden shipped to Springfield, Ohio.
So let's keep digging.
Maybe not deeper because it's pretty shallow actually.
It's pretty transparent what's going on,
but we will certainly dig wider.
Let's go back before the incidentally black children
started chasing ducks in a pond.
How did Haitians end up in Springfield?
Okay, well, the 20,000 Haitians, wait, sorry,
it says here 12,000 to 15,000,
because that's the number city officials have given
despite Vance and his cohort sticking with 20,000
because 20,000 sounds scarier
because big numbers, scarier number.
Okay, so these, I guess, like 13,500 Haitians
moved to Springfield because Kamala
just kinda shipped them there and dropped them off.
This paper keeps saying something other than what JD says.
While some of these Haitian migrants are in the country
because of the Biden-Harris administration,
they're in Springfield because they just sort of moved there over several years because there were jobs available and they knew
people there. As Reuters reports, recent and long-standing immigrants said family and social
networks, word of mouth, and the quest for higher wages and lower living costs helped draw people
to Springfield. Indeed, many people often do move places due to work or knowing people there.
OK, so they weren't dumped and there are more than 10,000 of them and they haven't
been eating cats or other pets.
But these illegal immigrants are they're here legally.
Many of the migrant workers had already lived elsewhere in the USA on work permits.
OK, and they're actually not illegal immigrants
because they actually had their temporary protected status
extended by the Biden administration.
For many, a status that goes back to the 2010 earthquake,
which we'll get to.
Although there was a brief period
where the status was revoked, which we'll also get to.
Now, actually.
Okay, so you might remember Haiti
from being a country that exists
and more recently and specifically,
Haiti is specifically the country
that Donald Trump called a shithole country
back in like 2018.
So not actually that recently.
He just didn't want specifically them here.
We will unfortunately also get to that.
But the point is, many of these migrants,
for various reasons, are here seeking asylum.
Do we have a clip of our former president
talking about asylum?
They're coming from all over the world,
from prisons and jails, mental institutions,
and insane asylums.
Why don't I even ask?
Oh, because he says it funny, I wanted to hear it again.
That's right.
Anyway, a quick refresher on Haiti
is probably an order here.
Once known as St. Domingue by the French
who colonized the West side of the Island Hispaniola,
nearing the end of the 1700s,
the French colony had a population
of about half a million enslaved Africans
who France exploited to enrich themselves
through the production of coffee and sugar
by using brutal practices
that created absolutely horrendous conditions,
even by the already unspeakable standards
of chattel slavery in the hemisphere.
And so in 1791, the enslaved population rose up
and kicked those pissheads out
in the world's first and only successful slave rebellion,
which concluded in 1804, creating the nation of Haiti.
They invented abolishing slavery.
And boy, did that bother America.
As a Missouri senator said at the time,
welcoming a Haitian diplomat would be seen as
a reward for the murder of masters and mistresses
by black slaves.
A South Carolina colleague added that,
We never can acknowledge Haitian independence.
The peace and safety of a large portion of our union forbids us to even discuss it.
And so, founding father and then President Thomas Jefferson, who supposedly loved freedom,
isolated Haiti both economically and diplomatically.
Meanwhile, Haiti was subsequently forced
to pay France reparations for their own freedom,
which took them 122 years to do.
It's a pretty big burden for a startup country.
It wouldn't be until 1862 that the United States
would formally recognize Haiti as a sovereign nation.
Had to wait until the Civil War had already started.
Us too, Haiti, right? Us too, right?
But that wasn't the end of the U.S.'s history of screwing over this country.
Far from it.
Some politicians feel compelled to characterize immigrants coming to America as some sort of
invasion.
But they're U they're US politicians. So of course they would support an actual invasion,
as in when the US Marines literally invaded Haiti in 1915
and continued to occupy the nation for nearly 20 years.
Some timeline to note here is that the US invaded Haiti
in the middle of 1915 to maintain stability
after a series of just so many presidential assassinations.
Maybe that's why Trump hates the place so much actually.
That's interesting, who knows?
But before that invasion to maintain stability in 1915,
in December of 1914, US Marines also went into Haiti and removed $500,000 from the Haitian National Bank
and brought it to New York for safekeeping.
So months before the official invasion,
the USA had control of Haiti's bank.
During this memory hold and little known forced residency,
the United States took further and complete control
of the country's finances and military
and installed a puppet president
and even conscripted peasants into building roads
to support the occupation under armed guard
and with no pay.
So 50 years after the United States finally abolished slavery,
70 years after Haiti did,
they reinvented slavery and re-enslaved citizens
from the only successful slave rebellion in world history.
But the thing America really wanted from this excursion
was to allow for foreign ownership of land.
We want our things, okay?
We have our business interests.
Unfortunately for America,
foreign ownership of land had understandably
been explicitly banned in the Haitian constitution
following the revolution.
So we proceeded to write a new constitution for them.
Or as Franklin Roosevelt said in 1920,
the facts are that I wrote Haiti's constitution myself.
And if I do say it,
I think it's a pretty good constitution.
He was also assistant secretary of the Navy at the time.
That seems like a like a weird task for that position.
Like like rewriting a nation's constitution should have been for someone
with a job that isn't assistant secretary of the Navy.
Regardless, he apparently did great
because the proposed new constitution omitted
the foreign ownership ban.
And we ran a sham election to adopt that new constitution
that we rewrote during that election
to adopt the new constitution that we rewrote
so we could own their land.
Yes cards were readily available,
but voters had to specifically ask armed Marines
for the no votes.
Unsurprisingly, the new constitution was adopted,
paving the way on land we can now own
for American companies like the American company
North Haitian Sugar Co.
Or the American company Haitian Pineapple Co.
And of course, eventually resulting in a monopoly
for the American corporation,
Standard Fruit Company, now called Dole,
on the exportation of bananas.
This is why they call them Banana Republic's folks.
It says way more about us than it does about them.
Eventually, the US and the Marines all left by 1934.
Of course, not before gunning down 12 to 22 Haitians
and wounding 21 to 51 others while shooting into a crowd
of 1500 people demonstrating against the occupation
of their country that we re-enslaved.
But although the Marines left by 1934, as NPR reports,
the United States continued
to control Haiti's public finances until 1947,
siphoning away around 40% of Haiti's national income
to service debt repayments to the US and France.
Or put more bluntly, as decorated Marine
and eventual anti-war advocate Major General Smedley Butler
eventually said, I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the national city
bank boys to collect revenues in.
I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics
for the benefits of Wall Street.
And so in no small part, due to our exploitation of this nation,
Haiti was never able to develop any type
of sustainable economy,
which left them vulnerable to brutal dictators.
We actually did an entire video
about how the West has screwed over Haiti for centuries
if you want to learn more.
Because even after all the stuff I just said
about the invasion and nation building via slave labor
and the rewriting of their constitution
so we could own their land
and further extract their resources and exploit them.
The United States has remained a virtually,
if not literally, constant factor
in Haiti's business ever since.
As journalist and author Jonathan Katz summarizes,
in the nearly 90 years
since that first US occupation ended,
US and US-backed forces have remained
the most constant factor in Haiti,
training and arming Haitian militaries,
meddling in elections, and alternately reinstalling
and overthrowing Haiti's leaders.
In the last 30 years, US troops have invaded
or otherwise intervened in Haiti three times,
in post-coup invasions in 1994 and 2004
and to quell feared unrest, which never materialized
after the 2010 earthquake.
Since then, they've had more assassinations
as recently as 2021,
and gangs have taken over much of the country,
including the capital Port-au-Prince.
And over half a million Haitians have been displaced.
And as you probably know by now,
tens of thousands of them have come to the United States.
And so considering the fact that the current state of Haiti
is in some measure our absolute fault,
frankly, the least we could do is allow some of them
temporary protected status in our country
after a series of disasters, both natural and political,
created a crisis in their country.
Their country that we kind of have been treating
like our own country for a long time.
But despite this readily available information,
there are some conservative freaks
who relish their lack of knowledge
and are even able to make an entire career
by bathing in their utter stupidity.
Nobody thinks that it will benefit America to become more like Haiti.
Nobody thinks that.
Or I would challenge anyone, if they do think that, to explain how that's the case.
Like, in what way could this country be improved by making it more like Haiti?
Now, luckily, this Matt Walsh person is talking to someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
And they point out the 200 years of American control
and extraction in Haiti up to basically now.
Walsh, of course, tries to brush it off
while acknowledging it.
But I just wanted to highlight his initial question.
See, when Walsh asks,
in what way could this country become more improved
by making it more like Haiti?
He is implying that Haiti's challenges
are a result of some sort of innate deficiency
with the Haitian people themselves.
That if they come here,
they will bring who they are with them.
This is the message behind immigrants
are eating people's pets,
regardless of if you claim to want to use that message
to talk about other issues.
That is the desired mindset and result of the Nazi lie.
In fact, just a few days before filming today's episode,
Donald Trump said this.
How about allowing people to come to an open border,
13,000 of which were murderers.
Many of them murdered far more than one person
and they're now happily living in the United States.
You know, now a murderer, I believe this,
it's in their genes and we got a lot of bad genes
in our country right now.
Criminal genetics.
It's Nazi stuff, folks.
There's no other way to put it.
It's Nazi stuff. And. There's no other way to put it. It's Nazi stuff.
And as Vance has said,
it doesn't even matter if any of this is a lie.
Of course, neither vice presidential candidate,
JD Vance, nor founder of neo-Nazi group Blood Tribe
are the first to engage in
and admit to this kind of behavior.
See, there's an infamous anti-Semitic
and conspiratorial book called
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
And it is just full of lies about Jews,
to the brim about how everything is the Jews' fault.
And also they have plans to take over the world.
Portions of it were first serialized
in a Russian newspaper in 1903.
And after the Russian revolution in 1917,
the anti-Semitic propaganda bravely tread west into Europe
and was translated over the following years.
Eventually getting into American industrialist
and Nazi sympathizer Henry Ford's hands,
he published his own series of articles
partly based on the protocols called,
"'The International Jew'."
Nazi party ideologue Alfred Rosenberg
was another fan of the protocols. And in the early 1920s,
he introduced the work to Adolf Hitler,
who, stop me if you've heard this one, loved it.
The interesting and of course, tragic thing about this
is not just that the protocols were repeatedly debunked
even at the time.
Like obviously it was easily debunkable nonsense
and was in fact shown to be a forgery
and partially plagiarized from a French political satire and a Prussian novel at the time, like obviously it was easily debunkable nonsense and was in fact shown to be a forgery
and partially plagiarized from a French political satire
and a Prussian novel as early as 1921.
But also the Nazis didn't believe it either.
Rosenberg wrote in 1934 that it was
less the so-called authenticity of the protocols
than the inner truth of what is stated.
And of course, Joey G., Jay Gerbs,
the gerbil with the furor, that doesn't really work.
Joseph Gerbils wrote in his diary in 1924,
I believe in the inner,
but not the factual truth of the protocols.
This stuff was taught in Nazi schools. It was a cornerstone of their propaganda.
Anyway, speaking of perpetuating a racist lie
in order to scapegoat and demonize an entire group,
we were talking about JD Vance and his weird Nazi lie
and how, according to him,
it doesn't matter that it's not true.
He posted on some website,
it's possible, of course,
that all of these rumors will he posted on some website. It's possible, of course, that all of these rumors
will turn out to be false.
Yes, it's certainly possible, Jed.
He then listed a few things he'd rather talk about
that aren't just possible, but confirmed,
and we'll get to those.
But he followed up that website post with,
don't let the crybabies in the media dissuade you,
fellow patriots, and of course, keep the rat memes flowing.
Wait, no, sorry, cat memes.
Keep the cat memes flowing.
Because surely JD knows what he's doing.
He's stupid if he doesn't.
Bringing attention to the plights of a town is one thing,
but JD, all of those rumors did turn out to be false.
And so you've effectively demonized
an entire ethnic group based on a lie
in service of a project and man
who thinks people are bringing their criminal genetics
into our nation and poisoning our blood.
And I guess I just have to ask,
do you feel good about that?
Do you feel good that you brought to the national level
false accusations that an entire ethnic group
is stealing and eating people's pets when they weren't?
Is it being a crybaby to think that that was bad?
Because you didn't communicate to the entire country
that, oh, somebody ate a person's pet and they're Haitian.
What you're communicating to the public is,
Haitians eat your pets.
That is what you're doing because,
and I'm sorry I saved this piece of information
for this far into the video.
Do you know who actually did kill some geese in Springfield?
Some white American guy shot some geese on some golf course.
Just something to note.
If you assume Haitians stole your cat to eat it,
maybe wait a day.
It's probably in your basement.
If you hear Haitians are killing geese that they shouldn't,
maybe it's actually your uncle, Simon Golf Uncle.
Yeah.
Hey, remember when Trump called Haiti a shithole country and removed their temporary protected
status and how he seemed to have a particular dislike of specifically Haiti in the very
racist meeting that happened early in his presidency that caused those in the meeting
to be taken aback? Oh my heavens, if only somebody was there to do something about this
racist, racist man. I'm so taken aback.
Anyway, in a different meeting, he went on a mini rant
and specifically referred to Haiti
as being full of AIDS or something.
Oh yeah, here it is.
People in Haiti, quote, all have AIDS.
You might recognize this as being another part
of his running mate, JD Vance's concern about Springfield,
that HIV rates are rising.
It's from that tweet where he said,
it doesn't matter if the cat eating rumors are true,
because all this other stuff is true.
Well, it's not true, simply not.
It is weird though, for Trump to single out Haiti
specifically, since Haiti's rate of HIV is 2% of the population.
And while still relatively high compared to other nations,
there are a lot of other countries with much higher rates.
For example, South Africa has the fourth highest rate
and the highest number.
So Donnie, I mean, do you really want this diseased sex pest
who by his brother's own admission
was an illegal immigrant running the government with you?
Get him out of here, Donnie. You gotta, you gotta kick him out. Kick him out. Kick him out. Kick him.
Kick him. Just kick that guy. He sucks. Anyway, it doesn't matter that those rates in Springfield
aren't actually going up. It doesn't matter that despite JD Vance's claim, police and officials say that crime is not going up.
Cops love to say that crime is going up.
Do you think they don't want you to give them more stuff
to fight the crime that's going up?
But it doesn't matter.
Surely crime has to be going up
because these people are violent criminals.
As the former president recently said,
it's in their genes.
That social media influencer at the town commission meeting
who talked about the geese getting their heads
chopped off and eaten.
And then he was like, well, that was just a rumor.
Even though he didn't say it was a rumor.
Well, he also in passing said this.
We gotta do something, bro.
It's kids out here getting hurt.
As far as I can tell,
that's specifically in reference to something
that you might recognize from JD's tweet
about how it doesn't matter if the cat eating rumors
are true because all this other stuff is true.
Specifically, he says,
do you know what's confirmed?
That a child was murdered by a Haitian migrant
who had no right to be here.
Not quite, JD.
An 11-year-old boy named Aiden Clark did die in a tragic car accident last year in Springfield, Ohio,
when a Haitian migrant collided with a school bus.
He did not have a valid U.S. driver's license at the time
and was sentenced to at least nine years in prison for involuntary manslaughter and vehicular homicide.
I know the homicide in there makes it sound like murder,
but that's just the legal term for when a person's illegal or negligent
operation of a motor vehicle leads to the death of another individual.
But if someone's killed in a car accident due to someone else's negligence,
is it murder? I mean, that might be something a distraught parent might say,
you murdered my son, but it's weird for a vice president to say it.
Also, it's the exact opposite of what the parents say.
To clear the air, my son Aiden Clark was not murdered.
He was accidentally killed by an immigrant from Haiti.
Aiden's father specifically calls out Vance and Trump
for being morally bankrupt
and politicizing his son's death.
He urges acceptance and a push against this hatred in order to,
as he and Aidan's mom say, live like Aidan.
It's very sweet and brave of them to have done that,
especially when there could have been Nazis there.
I encourage you to watch it if you want to get sad, honestly.
Aidan's parents, though, aren't the only ones urging more compassion
and basic reason and decency.
A, yes, I'm about to read this right,
Libs of TikTok fan responded to Miss of TikTok
about their post claiming that Kamala is busing in migrants.
The Libs of TikTok fan,
and by the way, also Republican state senator,
was just like, listen, ma'am,
I love your posts about gay and trans people,
but this isn't true.
She explains how it's not true
and how she knows it's not true
and explains how these kinds of lies
can be really harmful to good, hardworking people
in the community.
Miss of TikTok doesn't really respond to the substance
and she attacks the woman
to which the Republican state senator explains
that there's no uptick in drugs or crime
and how she's securing funding for driver's education
and teachers and addressing these problems.
In fact, according to state highway patrol data,
last year saw the fewest crashes in Springfield
in five years and the group most responsible
for incidents is mature drivers.
But let's say that it is a problem.
That guy who said the goose rumor happened,
in his speech that Elon and Vance loved so much,
he starts talking about how the people on the council
need to actually do something,
or the police should be teaching Haitians how to drive,
or something, et cetera, and so forth.
And yeah, they are.
They're doing those things.
The governor said there should be
a driver's education requirement
for adults to get their license.
And yeah, it shouldn't have taken racism to do that.
But yes, even a Libs of TikTok fan
can recognize all of this and is doing something about it
without the racism or scapegoating.
In fact, pushing back against the racism and scapegoating.
But of course, we don't want any of that.
Vance needs to say that a Haitian murdered a kid
so that he can make people think Haitians are murderers.
After all, it's like JD Vance's America's Hitler says, it's in their genes.
We need to feed the Nazi lie that this is just how Haitians are, so we might as well
purposefully highlight stories of Haitian migrants getting into car accidents because
they're the only ones who do that, right?
Anything in service of the idea that immigrants are dirty, diseased, barbaric, backwards, dangerous, evil, criminal people. It's not a new lie. In fact, it's pretty old, as in specifically the
claim that immigrants are eating pets has been deployed mercilessly to dehumanize Asian immigrants
throughout our history, particularly in the lead up
to the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.
But really, it's a xenophobic trope
that could be used against anybody.
Do you eat pigs?
You know what animals like dogs?
Pigs.
You just happen to have been born
in a place that doesn't care.
Like people eat all kinds of animals
in all kinds of places.
People hunt and eat ducks.
But if you're racist, you can make it racist.
In fact, JD Vance, you down home Appalachian in Ohio man,
you, after World War II, when West Virginians migrated
to places like Ohio and Indiana
to find a better standard of living and better paying jobs, they were often referred to
as snakes, snake eyes, and if it wasn't clear enough
for you, snake eaters.
All of this is just xenophobia
and it's just so lazy and obvious.
The monsters are eating your pets
and bringing crime and disease.
I know I've already mentioned it more than once.
I've mentioned it so many times,
but Trump is literally out there being like,
they're poisoning our blood.
They've got bad genes that they're mixing with ours.
It is wild that he said that.
And it's just like, Trump, you know,
that's the kind of stuff he says.
It's just so fucked up that we're just kind of numb
to this stuff now.
Anyway, speaking of stupid Nazis.
A recent piece in National Geographic tells you a lot about demographics in America and
about how bewilderingly fast they're changing without any real public debate on the subject.
The magazine profiles a small coal mining town of Hazelton, Pennsylvania.
In the year 2000, Hazelton's population was 2% Hispanic.
Just 16 years later, Hazelton is majority Hispanic.
That's a lot of change.
People who grew up in Hazelton returned to find out they can't communicate with the people
who now live there.
And that's bewildering for people.
That's happening all over the country.
No nation, no society has ever changed this much this fast.
You'll notice Tucko looks a bit fresher there,
a bit less rugged, a little more on television,
a little less disgraced.
I could have shown you a few more recent clips
of him talking about this specific town
and Haitian specifically,
and how he's scared of their witchcraft.
I'm not joking.
Here's the quote on screen
for all you watching the video heads out there.
Instead, I'd like to focus on this segment he did in 2018.
We have an entire segment of our own about that segment.
Insep-ment, et cetera.
In his, he laments the sharp demographic change
in a small Midwestern town due to a sharp rise
in immigration.
Stop me if you've heard this one before.
He questions whether or not human beings can handle
quick changes like that, sudden social shifts,
learning new languages, et cetera.
He has a very high opinion of human beings clearly.
But the piece was sparked, as he states in it,
by a different piece in National Geographic,
which highlights that small Pennsylvania town of Hazelton.
His segment, curiously, is about basically 5% of the article
in a way that pretends the rest of the article
doesn't exist.
See, the article is called,
"'As America Changes, Some Anxious Whites Feel Left Behind.'"
So just the perfect collection of words for him to
read and not have a second thought about. It discusses issues the town was going
through due to a sharp rise in population and demographic shifts. But a
lot of the article was about how people tend to adjust and actually immigration
is good for communities despite growing pains. A local bartender jokes about
learning a new language.
It follows a white mayor of a majority black city
dealing with white backlash
for taking down some racist statues.
One subject of the article and a resident of Hazelton
even acknowledges the irony of how her grandfather
dealt with the same kind of racist accusations.
See, here in America,
we don't discriminate when it comes to discrimination.
So when, for example, Italians and the Irish
came to the country, they were non-white and we hated them.
So it's interesting and perhaps frustrating
that she knows that,
but doesn't care or recognize it as an actual issue.
Of course, she also said,
we have one of us in the White House, Trump,
and we are going to make America great again.
And when asked who she meant by we,
she said, the we are the Caucasians
that built this country, our generation.
We're going to, we're going to make our grandfathers proud.
We have to.
First of all, tragic news for her on who did the building
on account of being forced to.
But also, our generation is the we that built this country?
The woman who said that was 53.
Fucking Gen X, man.
Anyway, my point is that all this stuff,
all the different avenues and angles and analysis
and information in that article is not mentioned by Tucker.
He just read the headline, as America changes, some anxious whites feel left behind. And he went on
the news like, what is there to do about this? Who's even talking about it? What's going on?
Can people handle anything ever happening? But the article talks about all of that.
He chooses to pretend it's this unknowable issue, this unsolvable problem, unless, of course, you want to deport everybody.
It's actually quite eerie how familiar this Hazelton story is.
For reasons we'll probably discuss later, in the early 2000s,
Hazelton experienced an influx of Latino families arriving from other states.
The Latino population increased over time,
and in 2006, two Hispanic immigrants
allegedly killed a Hazelton man.
The charges against the two were later dropped,
but in the meantime, Hazelton's mayor, Lou Barletta,
and the conservative city council got to ride
the fear of crime anti-immigrant sentiment
to do things like make English the official town language,
whatever that means,
and pass punitive laws against renters and employers
who rent to or employ illegal immigrants.
Land of the free, where people are illegal.
Those ordinances were eventually knocked down by the courts.
More on that later.
Do we have a clip of Mayor Lou Barletta in court
admitting that he didn't know how many undocumented immigrants
live there or how many committed crimes or what Gugu
or how Gaga?
We don't.
We don't. But he did say that.
Not the Gugu Gaga part, but the other stuff.
Okay, awesome.
Well, I wish we had a clip,
but we will be going full screen for this next quote
because I really have to sneeze.
And also it really brings home a lot of what we've been
talking about this episode.
It's a quote from that article that Tucker either didn't read
or doesn't want you to read for some reason.
It involves Jamie Langaselle who grew up in Hazelton and is
now a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City. So I'm going to
read this quote that Tucker didn't read to you. It's a quote from 2018. His research
found repeated themes. The anecdotes were often similar. Did that many people really
witness a Latino family at the grocery store using food stamps
to buy seafood and steak?
Or did the stories spiral forward on their own weight,
embraced and repeated as personal observation?
And why did so few people in his research
reference the new residents who were paying taxes,
going to church twice a week,
buying sedans on Airport Road,
and opening businesses that percolate all up and down North Wyoming Street.
So, for example, you hear somebody say,
They're in the park, grabbing up ducks by their neck,
and cutting their head off and walking off with them, and eating them, like...
But then later on, they say...
All I said was,
people are in the parks getting ducks
and grabbing them up by the head and cutting them off
and walking off and eating them
because this is a rumor going around the city.
Right.
Despite rumors of food stamps and steak
or eating pets or killing geese or whatever,
and some actual conflict and growing pains
in towns like Hazelton, people are people
and live and contribute to society.
Apparently for JD and the GOP, there's only option one,
round up millions of people and deport them.
But what if, stick with me, there's option two,
many other options.
And so we're going to look at some of those things
when we come back from the break.
We're gonna go back to Hazelton since since Tucker's last visit, and see how things are going.
We're gonna look a little closer at Springfield's problems,
and we're gonna see what JD wants to do about it.
If anything, what he's done, what he's doing,
what he's up to, how he's feeling,
whatever makes sense.
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You hear that Amadeus?
Folks, we couldn't be more back.
Eh, yeah we could.
Okay, we are fully back and we were just talking about
so many dang things.
I mean, immigrants eating pets, Nazi stuff,
bananas at one point, a whole lot of stuff, you know?
Yeah, it would be a lot of glaze to hear some sprinkle stuff,
some of these cinnamon rolls, just whatever makes this.
Fascinating.
Speaking of clips, here's another clip.
It's from a different investigative journalist
who went to Springfield in order to get quotes
of people complaining about immigrants.
I'm currently in the process of reapplying for food stamps, but again, even that for
us is a fight because of these Haitians.
We can't get these simple things because they're coming and they're taking it.
I bet they're even buying steak with those food stamps.
Now JD Vance would like you to believe that he is concerned about real problems
facing his non-Haitian constituents.
To him, a lot of those problems are,
and stem from, the non-constituent Haitians,
and immigration generally.
But despite the fact that, legally speaking,
they're legal immigrants,
he views them as illegal immigrants,
ruining these other people's lives
and draining their resources.
And he's cool with having used unfounded
and obviously bogus rumors that all turned out to be wrong
in order to demonize a whole ethnic group
leading to harassment and bomb threats in the town.
And he doesn't care if any of it's true or not,
as long as we can talk about how this lady
can't get her fucking food stamps.
I'm sure JD loves food stamps.
But before we get to whether or not JD Vance loves food stamps,
let's return to Hazelton and get this over with.
Hmm.
Immigration is generally good for the economy
and the country.
It just is.
It doesn't bring more crime.
Natural born citizens commit more crime than immigrants.
Immigration benefits American taxpayers.
Even that Libs of TikTok Republican state senator pointed this out in her reply about how they helped
improve things. And so it might not surprise you that many mid-sized small and rural towns have
been trying to attract immigrants in order to boost their economies over the last decade or so.
This idea that immigration makes areas poorer
and overwhelms them with burden may feel correct in the short term,
but that's just not how it plays out.
Take, for example, Hazelton, Pennsylvania.
At one point, it was one of those coal mining boom towns
that peaked around World War II
and then slowly declined as their industry and population shrank.
In 2000, the year, some major distributors
took root in the area.
This led to, as I mentioned earlier,
Latino families moving from New Jersey,
New York and other areas,
leading to a rapidly growing Latino population,
leading to rapidly growing racism and xenophobia,
as we also discussed earlier.
But despite that piss mayor Barletta's efforts to demonize immigrants and the Latino population,
they kept moving there.
And although you may not see a Tucker Carlson exclusive follow-up on that town that he does
not care about, things in Hazelton have actually rebounded.
And despite what he and his national conservative movement might want to believe,
it didn't rebound because of mass deportation of immigrants, but rather because of those
immigrants.
Hazelton recently came out of distressed status after getting help from the state and following
various recommendations regarding policy and basic balancing of the budget, a process that
the city had not gone through,
according to one city council member, in forever.
No mass deportations necessary.
Sorry to the xenophobes out there.
You're welcome to the xenomorphs though.
They know why.
Anyway, it wasn't easy, but it was done.
And Hazelton is still apparently going
through an economic boom.
And you know what probably actually didn't help the town?
All the demonizing of immigrants.
Because remember earlier talking about those ordinances
that piss Mayor Barletta tried to push through,
but they were all challenged and struck down by the courts?
Do we have a clip?
Those ordinances were eventually knocked down by the courts.
More on that later.
So later is now, now, and we do have more on that.
Specifically, 1.4 million more,
which is the number of dollars spent on the lawyers
who fought the town on account of their racist
and unconstitutional laws.
The less pissed mayor who succeeded Barletta,
Joseph Yannuzzi, has pointed out that the city
had a budget of $9 million.
And so to pay that, court ordered $1.4 million.
They had to take out a bank loan.
As Yannuzzi also pointed out, with that money, we could have hired 12 police officers,
or like something other than cops, but you get the point.
This, of course, all started in the early aughts.
Thanks to Hazelton, but not only Hazelton, we know how this story can go,
despite the fear mongering.
So what of Springfield, Ohio?
Well, Springfield is not dissimilar from Hazelton.
Though not a big coal mining town,
it used to be a bustling manufacturing hub
that made quite a lot of the nation's
agricultural machinery.
In the late 60s and 70s,
the population was about 80,000,
but over the years, factories closed
and jobs were shipped overseas.
And by 2015, the population had shrunk to about 60,000.
But much like in Hazelton,
city leaders eventually put together a plan in 2014
to bring in new jobs and business.
Over the next several years, they would attract a Japanese auto parts manufacturer,
food service firms, logistics companies, a microchip maker, and others. With the estimated 8,000 new jobs came,
well, 8,000 job openings.
Unfortunately, a lot of potential employees and younger folks were, as Vance allegedly wrote about in some terrible book of his,
employees and younger folks were, as Vance allegedly wrote about in some terrible book of his,
dealing with addiction. And so other people moved there. You probably know to whom I am referring. Yes, Haitians. Not only Haitians, but as we mentioned earlier, people moved there because they heard
there were jobs. Because there were. And those jobs weren't being filled. So they moved there to start families and have jobs.
And this isn't all to say that there are no problems.
It's a lot more people.
So some services are feeling the strain.
It's more people in hospitals and schools
and getting assistance and many who need translators.
Rents like they are in cities throughout the state
and countries, so no Haitian migrants necessary are rising.
Even before the surge of Haitians,
Springfield's poverty rate was about twice
the national average.
Adding a lot more people to a place
can create problems or issues, but not insurmountable ones.
Not ones that necessitate you banning people
from coming there or kicking out thousands
of people who are there.
Many of the jobs were also not being filled
because of much of the population aging out of that work.
So what about simply improving your services?
You actually have more money now
because of all the people that move there.
This is another important aspect of this.
These immigrants aren't doing nothing.
They're working jobs, they're starting businesses,
they're spending money, they're working jobs. They're starting businesses. They're spending money. They're buying
things. All of that contributes to the tax base and to services. People seem to have this weird
idea that 20,000 people move to Springfield and all they do is use your services and eat cats.
That's it. They don't like work or participate in the community or society at large. It's extremely weird.
They're taking our jobs and they're lazy leeches.
But no, they are on average working and helping.
For example, Medicaid is about 5%
of Ohio's overall economy.
It pays for the healthcare of one in four Ohioans,
many who again are getting older
and rely on programs like Medicare and social security.
Well, if population growth in Ohio is stagnant
and the residents are older,
then there are more people who need those services,
but fewer people who can contribute to
and provide those services.
They're not taking your food stamps.
They're working and thus contributing to the program.
These Haitian migrants are working jobs
and paying income tax and sales tax, et cetera.
They're not just there.
So in response to the strain of this sudden rise
in population, it's okay to be like,
hey, we're struggling a little.
Can we have a little money?
Help us out.
And indeed, Ohio governor Mike DeWine is earmarking
an additional $2.5 million to help
with Springfield's health department.
They'd already spent some on things like driver education
and language interpretation.
Call me Cody, but it seems like spending $2.5 million
on helping expand and strengthen their healthcare system
is a better use of money than say $1.9 million
to pay for your racist laws that don't stay on the books. Or I guess we could just deport everybody, which would cost nothing.
Now, ignoring the psychological cost and trauma of a nation
seeing the mass deportation of millions of people, the inevitable violence,
the separation of families and friends, etc.
I think that's an often ignored aspect of this to highlight.
But ignoring that cost, how much money would that cost?
According to multiple sources of varying ideological leanings,
the number ranges from $10,070 to $23,684 per person to deport.
Since this is a conservative issue,
let's be conservative about it.
And we won't even include the additional facilities
we'll definitely have to build for the more
than 10 million people.
And so let's say it costs just $10,000
to deport an immigrant.
Reminder that these Haitians are legal immigrants,
by the way.
And we're not even going to deport 20,000 Haitians,
but the more accurate and lower number, 15,000.
That is $150 million.
Folks, $150 million because a white guy killed a goose?
Or instead, we could, stop me if you've heard this before,
let them be here because of all the reasons.
In Columbus, Ohio, 30 minutes away from Springfield,
a study on their metro area found that immigrant households
contributed $712.4 million to state and local taxes in 2019.
That's almost five whole mass deportations of Springfield.
A federal study also found that refugees and asylees,
again, legal immigrants, contribute on average more
to the economy than they take away from it.
Elon Musk might want to be stupid or lying
about how low birth rates and increased immigration
caused the fall of the Roman Empire,
but increased immigration actually led to its peak.
Yes, there can be tension,
but it smoothed out over time and things improve.
And I guess we have two questions now.
One, does JD Vance know any of this?
He presents himself as a guy who can read, so one assumes that he does. But his actions,
for example hitching his wagon to America's Hitler, his words, say otherwise. But before
we answer that question, we have another one. What the fuck is JD Vance done for these people?
That woman in the video complaining about Haitians taking her food stamps?
Bad news to her, JD Vance and the Republican Party don't want food stamps to exist.
Like, it's pretty frustrating to see people complain about not getting welfare or public
services because of immigrants while supporting the political party that wants to
abolish those programs and services.
That consistently demonizes people who use it,
especially the non-white people.
As Rolling Stone describes, in his book I'll never read,
Vance writes about folks at the grocery store
trying to game the welfare system,
and recalls that he formed deep class resentments
toward those living off government largesse,
complaining about, for example,
our drug addict neighbor would buy T-bone steaks,
which I was too poor to buy for myself,
but was forced by Uncle Sam to buy for someone else.
They're those damn food stamp steaks again.
In old blog posts, Vance also lamented that Medicare
and social security are the biggest
roadblocks to any kind of real fiscal sanity. So, I don't know, it doesn't sound like he
gives a shit about your fucking food stamps, lady. Not that he doesn't pretend to. Here he is,
claiming victory for securing money for his constituents.
We've done a lot of good work for our constituents.
We've got hundreds of millions of dollars
to the Great Lakes.
Eagle-brained viewers might already know
that that money came from
President Biden's infrastructure bill,
a bill that, stop me if you've heard this one before,
JD Vance voted against.
Because there are things that can be done to help people.
Sorry, it costs money or whatever, but so does everything.
And there are compassionate, sensible, and helpful things There are things that can be done to help people. Sorry, it costs money or whatever, but so does everything.
And there are compassionate, sensible, and helpful things
that can be done about the tension and strain
in a town like Springfield or Hazelton.
But no, the only government solution is mass deportation.
Anything else is communism that you take credit for,
but vote against?
Even before all of these cat rumors,
the city officials in Springfield were just like,
yeah, we need a little help,
some money to help us through the transition.
If you could help us out, that'd be great.
We know it'll help and then get better.
And that's a fine solution, right?
Unless you're, stop me if you've heard this before,
a Nazi is really the point I'm getting at.
Much like a snake that a dumb hick
like JD Vance
would probably eat, he's spitting in the face of decency
and truth in order to serve his fascist lie
so we can do mass deportations now,
despite what is sometimes even said to his face.
At the beginning of this episode,
we briefly mentioned that JD Vance,
before all this cat eating stuff,
did bring up the Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, once.
He was doing this at a hearing that we will watch.
He even shared his own clip of it.
Chairman Brown, I'd like to ask unanimous consent to submit a letter for the record
from the city of Springfield and our state, the southwestern part of our state, which
I think highlights a very real example of this particular concern, straight from the
horse's mouth itself.
Now, this letter, I want to quote from it.
Springfield has seen a surge in population through immigration that has significantly
impacted our ability as a community to produce enough housing opportunities for all.
Springfield's Haitian population has increased 15 to 20,000 over the last four years in a
community of under 60,000 previous residents putting a significant
strain on our resources and ability to provide ample housing for all of our residents and
end quote there and and mike. The objection so thank you. In my conversations with folks in
Springfield it's not just housing they're trying to build 5,000 new housing units which is a very
herculane task in a town of about 55,000 people, but it's also hospital services, it's school services,
there's a whole host of ways in which this immigration
problem I think is having very real human consequences.
Our any eyed viewers might notice that
it's just him speaking.
What's this interaction?
What was said before he spoke?
Well, let's go to the original video
and show you what was said to JD Vance
just seconds before that moment.
What do you see as the relationship,
in particular given that housing is such a big driver
of the inflation that we've seen over the last few years,
as Senator Haggerty said, the highest in 40 years,
what role do you see illegal immigration playing
in driving up housing costs,
which of course is a main driver of inflation for American citizens?
Let me quickly start by echoing your first comment, which is we don't comment on immigration
policy, but we do comment on inflation.
So I would say this.
Many people came into the country over the last couple of years, many of them through
asylum requests and went to work,
labor supply increased a great deal. There's no clear answer, but my sense is that in the long
run, immigration is kind of neutral on inflation in the short run. It may actually have helped
because the labor market got looser because there were more people. But you're talking about housing specifically.
There will be, I'm sure there are places in the country where new people coming into
the country, I'm sure you can find places and they exist that will have contributed
to an already tight housing market.
But overall in terms of aggregate inflation, I wouldn't say it's a driver one way or the
other.
To his face.
He was told to his face.
Well, actually immigration helped the economy
and kept inflation from going up more than it would have.
And generally over time, these issues smooth out.
Generously, the chairman of the Federal Reserve,
Jerome Powell said it was neutral.
To his face.
And then he's like, how are you gonna build 5,000 homes?
That's a lot of homes to build.
And now with these 20,000 more people,
what are we to do?
First of all, JD,
we're the United God damn States of fuckshitting America.
We can build 5,000 homes,
you pathetic little naysaying unpatriotic worm.
Second of all, it's actually more like 12 to 15,000 people.
But third of all,
you were just told
that immigrants fill job positions and work hard.
He's framing it like 20,000 people showed up
and are just kind of like sitting around.
Who do you think is going to be building those homes?
Most likely the people being called sand monkeys,
not the people saying sand monkeys.
JD goes on to ask how an influx of workers
helps a tight
labor market.
Is told how, then he asks why you have to bring in
immigrants and can't just raise wages to attract new
white American workers.
And because that sounds like a weird question,
specifically for JD to ask, here it is.
You know, you see labor shortage,
rather than bringing in a large number of new immigrants,
why not try to boost wages in a way that brings some of those workers off the
sidelines?
That seems to be a much better focus from my perspective.
Certainly that's a very constructive focus. I would agree. It's not,
I don't think it has to be one or the other.
What? JD? What?
Why not just raise wages? Sure, man. Go ahead.
Are you going gonna do that?
Organizations like the Economic Policy Institute
have pretty clear recommendations to help raise wages
or force a tight labor market
in order to raise wages, et cetera.
Those suggestions are things like jobs programs,
raising the minimum wage, strengthening unions
and the right to collectively bargain,
ending forced arbitration,
regularizing undocumented workers,
or securing more sick leave and paid family leave,
or going after wage theft.
Do you wanna do any of that?
Or are you maybe more in line with the party, your party,
that wants to do things that places like EPI recommend
not to do in order to raise wages,
like lowering taxes on individuals and corporations,
austerity and deregulation.
Hey, JD, JD, JD, JD, JD, JD,
you wanna be the president?
Why not just raise wages?
You fucking dumb commie asshole.
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What a piece of shit that guy is. You suck JD,
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and then he pooped that out and he ate it.
All right, JD.
That's my president.