Some More News - Some More News: MAGA vs. Serious People

Episode Date: June 10, 2026

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Hey, it's me. Cody News. Full name. I'm fine. I'm just stretching my neck. Looking at my floor. Like and subscribe and all that stuff. Gah! Things suck, okay? I mean, my life rules, actually. I'm thriving. But for example, here's just some news. A bunch of it. The Iran war continues with no end in sight. gerrymandering was given the okay by the Supreme Court and the GOPs just racing to eliminate Democratic districts before the midterms. The country is being carved up for vampiric data centers with the public completely shut out of the decision-making process.

Our president is just a guy openly doing scams and crimes. The Moral Combat 2 popcorn buckets were like $45 each. Four. Five! Also our studio floor is super dirty, sticky, wet, smell. Point is, we live in an unsustainable hellscape that seems likely it's going to collapse. It feels like the only thing left to see is the exact time, nature, and blast radius of the fall. We already know how many people are coming to doomsday.

We're just waiting to see how many guests select the pescatarian option. Like that movie Melancholia. What a reference. Melancholia. What I'm getting at is that it's hard to keep this beard a grin in some days. But thank goodness for spite. I slurp it down like a rat, sucking the marrow out of a dumpster femur. Because the silver lining to this gold-lined nightmare is that our current situation was largely facilitated by a cluster of right-wing liars and freaks who never thought that they'd have to answer for their cruelty and propaganda.

But as Trump begins to fade, literally before our eyes like racist Yoda, we're seeing more and more rats, leave the ship and the worst people ever actually getting little tastes of accountability. Like this. And then on a recent show, you went further saying, here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors, mocking the god of gods, and exalting himself above them. Could this be the Antichrist? I actually did not say could this be the Antichrist? Here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors, mocking the God of gods,

and exulting himself above them. Could this be the Antichrist? Well, who knows? I don't know where that comes from, but I know that those words never left my lips because I'm not sure I fully understand what the Antichrist is. If there's just one, I actually tried to understand it. Tucko Carls, King Dumpster Femer. You looked that reporter straight in the eyes and just lied,

and then immediately had that lie exposed because you apparently weren't aware that the show you were hosting this whole time, was being recorded. Did you not know that? Did nobody tell you that? It's not enough accountability, mind you. But it's fun to watch. And hopefully, a preview of things to come.

It also says a lot about these liars that the moment they are forced to sit down in front of serious people and actually explain themselves, they awkwardly freeze up like J.D. Vance ordering donuts. Let's watch another one. Don't tell me which one. Just any old clip. Whatever makes sense.

Do you think it's inappropriate in any way that someone in their 20s with no experience with grants for federal government was making personal judgment calls about what grants do cancel? Jackson. Um, no, I don't think it's inappropriate. Okay. Why not? It's actually. Oh yeah, those Doge kids. Forgot about them.

Fun game! It's like playing Russian roulette with a water pistol full of nacho tux. cheese. If you watch the Deer Hunter in that context, it's like a countdown to deliciousness. You can also do this with the Sam Jackson movie 187. Anyway, let's have some fun and talk about MAGA versus serious people. Turns out one of the downsides to hiring a bunch of podcasters and or unhinged racists to do openly cruel and illegal things is that eventually they might have to explain themselves in some kind of committee or deposition or interview.

It's almost like the Trump administration never anticipated having to answer for themselves, as if this was sort of a all-or-nothing dilly, where they just assumed they'd achieve world domination by now, except they didn't, yet. And while they'll certainly destroy a lot of stuff in the process, these brief tastes of accountability are hopefully a preview of things to come. Hopefully. We're all kind of edging right now, which I'm told on Reddit will make the climax much more satisfying, assuming it happens. Because, boy, they are not good at covering their asses. Again, they never planned to.

They're the most terminally online people who seem totally blindsided any time they are reminded that the things they say and do affect the real world. They're the epitome tough guys. Their intense rhetoric evaporates when they're forced to defend any of their bullshit in a courtroom setting, surrounded by serious professionals. It's like kryptonite to these turnips, which is what happens when your movement celebrates ignorance and Inexperience as strengths the kind of people who fire all the pilots and then ask to borrow Microsoft flight simulator 2004 like let's circle back to that Doge clip

Remember the white princes of Doge? Who could forget sweet big balls whose struck face was the Helen of Troy that locked down our nation's capital? These Kurds and Way Shrinky Dinks were tasked with eliminating wasteful government spending, which was really just a gigantic dog whistle for woke-busting all the federal grants to make America safe for Caucasity. Months later, the Doge Boys had to sit down and explain themselves in front of a bunch of very serious people, and the results were predictably hilarious and also exposed the huge disconnect between stuff the president would say and what was actually happening. That's going to be a running theme in this one. For example, Trump crowed about appointing honeyed man sculpture, Elon Musk as the head of Doge. However, legally speaking, Musk never held

any official title related to the new agency, which wasn't even a new agency, by the way. They just renamed the United States Digital Service and Musk's actual extremes. And Musk's actual extremely non-specific title was special government employee. That's the same position as the person who fetches Trump his silver bullets every time he mashes the calcify my bloodstream button on his desk. As a result, several organizations sued the government after Doge began slashing their grants, claiming that the department was being run illegally

and under false pretenses without any congressional oversight. These were difficult charges for the Doge Boys to refute, because they were obviously and absolutely true. But the ends justify the means, right? What were the ends again? Let's ask. You don't regret that people might have lost important income to support their lives? No. I think it was more important to reduce the federal deficit from $2 trillion to close to zero. Did you reduce the federal deficit?

No, we didn't. Oh, good stuff. You can't trip over your dick harder than that, my man. That's like crunch getting his tail caught in the trampoline and turning the Subaru half-court slam into his second 9-11. He just walked right into that. You need to give these sweet princes child leashes or they'll touch every stove in sight. Trump officials claimed that Doge was erasing the deficit and reigning in big government by eliminating frivolous spending and even criminal embezzlement and money laundering. But in their depositions, former Doge staffers Nate Kavanaugh and Justin Fox at admitted to submitting every grant funded by the National Endowment for the Humanities into ChatGPT and asking it to search for anything DEI related.

Basically, they had AI scan thousands of grants for keywords like black, homosexual, equity, and LGBTQ Plus and then flagged every single one of them for elimination. Notably, they did not ask the robot to search these grants for terms like Caucasian, quite. or heterosexual. I wonder why that is. And again, they never thought they'd have to explain this. And Kavanaugh just keeps getting pies in the face. I think a person can have enough judgment from reading books and being well-informed outside of traditional experience to make judgment calls about obvious things like a grant that literally lists DEI in its description to know whether it violates an executive order. You just, I'm sorry. I'm saying books because you said books.

What books would you have read that would have informed your opinion on what grants to cancel based on DEI? There were no books. You fell for it again! Kavanaugh struggles so hard to explain his expertise like he's trying to bluff his way onto the crew team without threatening to call his dad because he's a big quotes, tech entrepreneur with no background in grant writing or the humanities. A real DEI type of hire, you know. He's so not used to being questioned and was so sure that he'd never have to explain all his vial little deeds That he takes a full five-second pause when asked to defend his inexperience like he just buzzed in on Portuguese

Jeopardy after lying about speaking the language. He's the kind of at-risk youth who sucks so hard he'd convinced the chat bot to kill itself So naturally he's never had to speak aloud the things he very sweatily and nasally typed out on X, a.k.a. Elon Musk's Chamber of Secrets, where even his precious robots tease him. Meanwhile, Justin Fox couldn't define DEI in his own words because he never thought he would have to. He expected the mere reference of women and brown people would have been illegal in Trump's America by now. How do you interpret DEI? There was the EO explicitly laid out the details. I don't remember it off the top of my head. It's okay. I'm asking for your understanding of it.

Yeah, my understanding was exactly what was written in the EO. I don't remember what was in the EO. So right now, do you have an understanding of what DEI is? Yeah. Okay, so what's your understanding as you sit here today in this deposition? Well, it was exactly what was written in the EO. And so any time that we would look at a grant through the lens of complying with an executive order, we would just refer back to the EO and assess if this grant had relation to it.

Okay, but I guess some stepping back from your methodology strictly determining the grants, Do you have an understanding as you sit here today of what DEI means? Yeah. Okay. So what's your understanding of what it means? Well, it is exactly what was written in the EO. And I don't have the EO in front of me, but that was we would always reference back to the EO and make sure that this grant was in compliance with the EO. I understand that.

Okay, but I'm not asking necessarily about what was in the EO. I'm asking very specifically about your present understanding of what, of DEI. Do you have a present understanding of DI? Yeah. Okay. Can you explain what that present understanding? understanding is? Well, it is just easier for me to be referencing back to the EO. Are you refusing to answer the question? I'm not refusing to answer the question.

Woof! It's like watching a robot die! I'm just gonna play the rest of the video because it is astounding. Why is a documentary about Holocaust survivors? DEI? It's the gender-based story that's inherently discriminatory to focus on this specific group. It's inherently discriminatory to focus on what specific group? The gender-based, so females, during the Holocaust. And you believe that that's inherently discriminatory? I'm just saying that's what it's focused on.

Sure. Because this is related to DEI. Right. But you just used the term inherently discriminatory. What did you mean by that? It's focusing on DEI principles, gender being one of them. So a documentary that's about women would be DEI. Gotcha.

Is that apparent to say? No. Okay. So tell me why would I just said isn't DEI, but what you just said is DEI? Jackson. It's a Jewish, specifically focused on Jewish cultures, and amplifying the marginalized voices of the females in that culture. It's inherently related to DEI for those for you.

reasons because it's about Jewish culture. My goodness, Fox is such a little racist, he doesn't seem to hear how much he sounds like a little racist. First, he claims that grants focused on minority groups are inherently discriminatory, which is delicious nacho cheese music to any prosecutor's ears. Then he seems to barely stop himself from saying, it's a Jewish movie to explain why a documentary

about women in the Holocaust would be considered DEI, while a documentary on the more general topic of women would not. And he thought that he was backpedaling. He thought he was making it better. It's so clear that he's realizing in real time that he can't just be racist as a legal justification and has to logically explain something completely illogical. Elsewhere in his deposition,

he defends flagging a documentary about black civil rights because it was focused on a single race and therefore not for the benefit of humankind. It's like he knows there's something major. He isn't supposed to say we eliminated all the Jewish movies, perhaps, but he exists in such an echo chamber that for the life of him, he can't figure out what it is. You'd almost feel bad if he wasn't such a hollow turd who thinks a documentary about civil rights in America shouldn't focus on black people lest it be discriminatory. He's this little racist kid who was clearly told by what he assumed were people with authority to go in there and erase all the woke stuff.

So he did that, or rather he had grok or whatever do that, probably assuming the people who directed him would protect him from situations just like this. But they didn't, and there he is. And again, this doesn't help when the things Trump is saying into a microphone aren't what they're actually doing on paper. This is a pattern. with the DEI stuff specifically, because on paper, you can't just, you know, erase any mention of minorities without getting super duper sued. And yet Trump has claimed that his administration ended the practice in America, announcing during a speech at the conservative political action conference, quote, I've ended all of the so-called diversity, equity, and inclusion programs across the entire federal government and the private sector, and notified every single government DEI officer that their job has been deleted. To a round of squealing applause like a potluck to summon a hooved demon. Then they all paired off in animal masks to go shoot the videotape from true detective.

However, in court, Trump's lawyers are gurgling a different tune, claiming that the president's executive order targeting DEI was just a public referendum for federal agencies to follow existing laws about discrimination, and that DEI programs may continue. But that's not what he said? That's not even close to what he said. But they don't dare repeat Trump's actual rhetoric in a legal setting, because his actual rhetoric flagrantly violates the First Amendment. His lawyers and department heads and palette swaps and multiverse variants and posable sidekicks, etc.,

are under intense pressure to make his hoggy little dreams come true. But they're facing similarly intense pushback from reality. If they slip up for even a moment and contradict or undermine the party line, they get sacked and presumably have to return their custom air Jordans to Cash Patel's FBI, assuming he hasn't locked himself inside, in which case he just leave him laced up next to the door. But if they stick to their guns, they're on the record as being complicit in the some pretty serious crimes. A real racist rock and a racist hard place,

because the current president of the United States just... ...says things. Whatever he feels like, whenever he feels like, including really illegal and messed up things, like supporting war crimes. Deliberate attacks on civilian infrastructure violate the Geneva Convention and international law.

Who you with? I'm with the New York Times. What's going on? that your threat to bomb power plants and bridges amount to a crime. No, no, no, no, I'm not. I hope I don't have to do it. Us too, sir. Us too.

And while he is apparently allowed to say whatever, everyone under him has to try and deal with that fallout, which might be why his administration is currently facing over 700 lawsuits, 94 of which have been dismissed, but the majority of which are still ongoing. At the time of this recording, plaintiffs have won 63 cases versus the Trump administration seven. They're losing in court is my point.

Lawyers have left the Department of Justice in a record number during Trump's second term as a result, to the point that they're now offering signing bonuses because they're so desperate for new hires. And those left are such clown show understudies that they're making fundamental errors, like failing to provide courts with basic required information in their struggle to defend Trump's hingeless buffoonery. We saw this a lot with the ICE protests where someone in the administration clearly wanted to make an example of people mostly just doing free speech. So they'd try to like put a guy in Gitmo for throwing a sandwich, which in turn repelled any decent lawyer. And so they'd end up getting the Lionel huts of prosecutors who botched the whole thing. Do you remember that?

The sandwich. Or more recently, there was the sudden dismissal of the so-called Broadview Six. which was a group of people who were indicted for protesting outside a Chicago detention center. It was so clear from the start that the government had nothing on them, and it seems like they knew it, because what we learned is that the prosecutors had to run through three grand jury sessions in order to actually secure the indictment. In the first one, the jury decided not to indict them. So I guess they just did a new one, and that one was abruptly a ended during an ICE officer's testimony. I'm guessing because he implicated himself or something, but we don't know for sure. And then the third one finally worked, most likely because the prosecutors

had been dismissing any jury member who didn't agree with their case against these protesters. In other words, they just kept save-scumbing the grand jury until they agreed to indict, on top of having direct communications with them outside of the court. And then they tried to cover all this up in the transcripts, just a blatantly illegal move that the judge understandably found stunning, saying, quote, I have read hundreds, if not thousands of grand jury transcripts involving prosecutors who are the most junior of prosecutors to several U.S. attorneys who appeared before the grand jury. I have never seen the types of prosecutorial behavior before a grand jury that I saw in those transcripts. And all of this under the watch of U.S. attorney Andrew S. Boutros, who was

directly appointed by Pam Bondi. And you sort of know exactly what happened. Trump really loves telling everyone that Chicago is this crime hellhole. So Bondi appointed this guy who she knew would yes and Trump's views. He was then told to get the indictment no matter what, which he probably passed onto the lead prosecutor who just forced it through illegally. That prosecutor, Sherry Mecklenburg, has been fired from her new job because of this. There may be sanctions in the future, this is ongoing. As of filming this, attorney Andrew Butros is still trying to cover his ass, but the entire office is now in question,

which in turn puts their other past cases into question. Because thankfully, that's what happens when you try to punish people who didn't break the law. For now. It's all very stupid and funny, but it would admittedly be much funnier if the fate of the world weren't hanging in the balance like a fucking X-Men sequel. You see, unlike Trump, all of these people around him can go to jail, and they know it. Well, some of them know it.

So they're caught between a rock and a hard place, in that Trump expects them to be ride or die stickmen, his fellow boys with a Z, chicks too. Get a Z in there, is my point. But they also know that unlike Trump, they might have to actually exist in the world when he's gone. A world that might contain consequences. It's like Superman putting Jimmy Olson on the front lines of war and saying, just go do what I do and you'll be fine. Also, I'll kill you if you don't. Homelander. It's Homelander.

I get it. I get it, I get that show now. I didn't before I just got it. I just thought it was like cool superheroes to get their powers from milk. Wow. Let's take a break. And then after that break, we'll keep talking about the many sad people who are for forced to do Trump's bidding, no matter what that may be. Should be fun.

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often illegal things, and then make the people under him try to do those things lest they be punished, which is probably why he burns through people faster than the human torch on meth. No one can walk this line is my point, but also, and this is important. These people all suck, not feeling bad for these people, who are often quite like Trump to begin with, which is why Trump likes them. It's Trump hiring little Trumps to do illegal Trump things, often dooming them like a clone army, or I guess whatever Snoke was. Snoke. What was Snoke?

A good Snoke example is, of course, Christy Noem. Our greatness calls people to us for a chance to prosper, to live how they choose, to become part of something special. Anyone who searches for freedom can always find a home here, but that freedom's a precious thing, and we defend it vigorously. You cross the border illegally, we'll find it. you. Break our laws, we'll punish you. Harm American citizens, there will be consequences. Majestic. See, Trump's former girl boss slave auctioneers spent over

$200 million for an ad campaign that included a video of her dressed like a sorority elder at her first Kenny Chesney concert while riding a stoned horse in front of Mount Rushmore. All to warn immigrants that they will be hunted down, I guess for their pelts, presumably, by Nome and her posse of White Claw Cowboys. Yes, you heard that correctly. $200 million. A handful of ads cost half an Avengers endgame

and are seemingly like 80% stock footage. The price tag of this campaign alone tripled the Department of Homeland Security's advertising budget from the previous year. Essentially, Nome was handed a blank check by Trump's big, beautiful bill to create an anti-immigration act. campaign and she blew $220 million funneling cash into what are essentially shell

companies run by her personal friends and political allies for a racist glam reel of her and a horse. It's all very illegal but also very Trumpian. She's a little Trump doing Trump stuff which might be why Nome seemed surprised to be subpoenaed for a congressional hearing. Madam Secretary, I'll read from the notice from your agency given the immediate action to significantly reduce illegal immigration and border DHS invited, excuse me, identified four companies. Four of the hundreds of thousands of companies in the United States, you identified four. One of those is this Safe America Media Company.

Where is Safe America Media headquartered? I don't know. I don't know either, Madam Secretary. We can't find it. We can't find a website. We did find an address that's registered for this company. Do you know where that address is? Is there a problem with this contract?

I'll tell you about it. Madam Secretary, the right, it was done by a website. by federal officials, it was a political officers, Madam Secretary, the company, and then I'll give you an opportunity to respond. The company is registered to a political operative in Virginia. Do you know, just by way of example,

whether this company that received $143 million in taxpayer dollars, has it ever done work for the government before? I don't know. I can't. The answer is it has not. And do you know why we know that? Because it was incorporated eight days, eight days before this contract.

went out. Boy, she should probably go to jail, right? Of course, in her defense. She's only doing what literally every other person in Trump's orbit is doing, including Trump. He's gifting his idiot son's Pentagon contracts like their Ben 10 sticker sheets, among many other hilariously shameful things. Indeed, Nome's genuine surprise might be why she let it slip in official testimony that Trump himself signed off on the ad campaign, directly implicating him in what he's, what appears to be a blatantly fraudulent scheme. Asterisk. Winky face. Crab emoji. And you're saying that you're testifying that President Trump approved this ahead of time. Something I understand.

We had conversations about making sure that we were telling people. No, ma'am. I'm asking you. Sorry to interrupt. But the president approved ahead of time, you're spending $220 million. running TV ads across the country in which you are featured prominently. Yes, sir.

We went through the legal processes. Did it correct? Did the president know you're going to do this? Yes. He did? Mm-hmm. Yes. Okay. Fucking whoops. That's a big time.

Noem, no, when you're taking the witness stand to cover up for the Don, excuse me, the Donald, excuse me, the President of America somehow. Noam got the axe almost immediately after her testimony. You can see it on her face that she knows she mess. up. She was backed into that corner she was trying so hard to avoid by a Republican senator, no less. And now was that. The same corner that everyone under Trump hopes so hard not to find themselves backed into. It's not a fun corner. I think that's what the back rooms movie is about or the end of the Blair Witch Project for those feeling less topical.

But again, and of course, Nome didn't have to spend hundreds of millions on an ad featuring her as the start the star. She wanted to do that. She loves to cosplay as we learned. That's the through line for a lot of these people. They are very stupid, often terminally online weirdos who were, through some dark miracle, put in charge of very serious things. They are way in over their heads and don't even realize it, and for most of them have distilled their jobs down to the aesthetics. They're like a little idiot kid with those pretend grocery stores. They can't actually comprehend the work that goes into it, but like being seen doing it.

That's why Sean Duffy seems to think the main job of the Secretary of Transportation is to like hype up the concept of transportation, or rather, he just wants to be on TV like they all do. Their reality TV hucksters. Or even worse, podcasters. And it's one thing, if you need a guy, to sub into your podcast while you go to jail and use that podcast to threaten Trump's political enemies.

But don't expect that person to do a lot of serious administration work for you later, right? Otherwise, you get this. So, Director Patel, when should we expect this FY25 span plan for the FBI? Have you seen it? Have you reviewed it? When will we get it? I'll get you an answer, ma'am. I don't have a timeline on that. It was due last week, by law. I understand. And your answer is you just understand. You're not going to follow the law?

My answer is that I am following the law, and I'm working with my interagency partners to do this and get you the budget that you are required to have. And you have no timeline? No. Oh, Cashie. That's him trying to white-knuckle his way through a question about the FBI's annual budget, as though he believes if he blinks enough times, he'll be transported back to his hotel room to continue his investigation of the mini-bar. Because I guess these people literally think they can teleport. I don't know, maybe all it takes is believing in yourself

Cash Patel is the Mickey Mouse of dudes who are in way over their heads Before becoming head of the FBI in Trump's second term Patel made several public statements suggesting that Trump should base his election campaign on releasing the Epstein files Here's one featuring Glenn Beck the worst collaboration on the album. You skip that track every time Who has Jeffrey Epstein's Blackbook? Blackbook? FBI.

But who? That is, I mean, there's... Oh, that's under direct control of the director of the FBI. Just like the manifesto from the Nashville school shooting of the Catholic school. We still haven't seen that, right? It's not the Nashville police or PD saying, we don't want this out. The FBI airmailed into that operation and said, this is not getting out. Because they do that because they...

This is another government gangster. operation. And to me, that's a thing I think President Trump should run on. On day one, roll out the black book. And not just that. On day one, roll out all of the text messaging communications we were told were deleted. On day one, play the rest of the video of the pipe bummer. Incredible. Watching that clip, you start to wonder if Trump made him the head of the FBI just to fuck with him. Cash wrote an entire book called government gangsters about how the deep state and the FBI are hiding stuff from us and was put in charge of of the FBI and immediately choked.

That's amazing. That's like writing an entire novel about how he could beat up the rock and then he shows up to your book signing. And in that clip, Patel loudly claims the information in the Epstein files was kept in the direct lock and key possession of the FBI director and that Trump should not only

release the information if re-elected, but also establish a rolling system of declassification to eliminate deep state secrets. Now, here's Patel in 2025, talking to an alleged rapist about a definite rapist, really just doing his best to get through a congressional hearing. Director, the first time you saw Donald Trump's name was in the Epstein files. Did you close the files or keep reading? I have reviewed not the entirety of the files, so I have... You haven't reviewed all of the Epstein files? Personally, no. You're the director of the FBI.

This is the largest sex trafficking case the FBI has ever been a part of. Buck stops at the top, and your testimony today is you have not reviewed. all the files. What I've been doing is busy providing the safest country this country has seen in modern U.S. history. He hasn't really read him. The guy who wouldn't shut up about the Epstein files before the election. Now the head of the FBI didn't really read him. He skimmed them, I guess. It's that same energy as J.D. Vance saying he's obsessed with aliens. But then being like, well, yeah, I got a lot going on though. So instead, Patty Cake slurs out, what I've been doing is busy providing the safest country this country has seen in modern U.S. history.

Amazing sentence. And kind of true, actually. America has been safer than ever before for a while, and notably unrelated to Cash Patel. Weird how they claim the opposite when they're running for office. Anyway, man, who knew the job involved so much law and court and lawyers? Cash money just wanted to be John Travolta in face-off. But John Travolta as Nicholas, cage. Suddenly, not only can he not release the files because perhaps his boss is implicated in them, but he now claims he hasn't even read them. The courage it must take to say that in public gets him at least a tenth of the way to a Travolta. But much like Nome before, what choice does he have? It's either he says he hasn't read the Epstein files, or he

admits that Trump's name is mentioned over 1,000 times. You said you don't know the number of times Trump's name appears in the files, so it could at least be a thousand times. Is that right? The number is a total misleading factor. We have not released anyone's name. We have not released anyone's name in the EFstein files that has not been credible. Director, could it at least be a thousand times? We have released every piece of legally permissible information. Okay. You can characterize the numbers however you want it. Claiming my time, director. It sounds like if you don't know the number, it could at least be a thousand times. It's not. It's not. Is it at least five. No.

Is it at least 100 times? No. Then what's the number? I don't know the number, but it's not that. Yeah, it's more than a thousand. Some say it's more than a million, but I'm not sure how they're counting. It's a lot and cash knows that. It's very funny how these freaks keep trying to score internet points with Epstein

while having to constantly tap dance around the very obvious fact that Trump was besties with the pedophile. Like, what a weird grift to have to maintain. It's like if you did a weekend at Bernie's after after everyone saw him get hit by a train, which is not how Bernie dies in that film, mind you. Because in that film, he dies of, no joke, a heroin overdose. Bernie dies from a forced heroin overdose in Weekend at Bernies. Like something from the wire.

Anyway, despite Trump really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really wanting people to not talk about Epstein. That hasn't stopped his conspiracy base from craving more, which in turn has led to the GOP continuing their desperate attempt to implicate Democrats while trying super hard not to bring up Trump's name. One of the more obvious and sweaty attempts had to be the deposition of Hillary Clinton. Because of course, that's the Clinton we all think of when we think about Epstein. Like her or hate her, Clinton is objectively experienced in doing all that, you know, serious political junk.

She was forged in the minds of Benghazi hearings. It's almost cruel to put her in a room with cosplaying podcasters who have no idea what they're doing. And one such inept cosplayer was Lauren Bobert. Remember her? The PTA mom who brings chicken tenders to every wake and got kicked out of the Beetlejuice musical for vaping and tugging her boyfriend's sandworm like a homeschooled kid on a date. Well, during that closed door deposition, Bobert actually snapped a photo and leaked it to plagiarist Benny Johnson, who immediately posted the photo on X, proudly attributing it to the representative. That's a flagrant violation of the rules of conduct for a closed hearing, and they did it in real time during the hearing for internet points, I guess, and then everyone in the room just,

you know, found out about it. I guess Bobert forgot they also could see the internet, and so Clinton, a serious person, and her lawyers, also serious people, were just like, Hey, what the fuck? Like, almost literally that's what happened. Excuse me. Can I interrupt? There are photos that are being released of the secretary as she is testifying from inside this room. Can you please advise me as to whether or not that's permissible and consistent with the rules, particularly given that we have asked for a public hearing. If there are photos that are being released of the secretary as she is testifying,

can you please explain how that can occur? I'm done with this. If you guys are doing that, I am done. You can hold me in contempt. from now until the cows come home. This is just typical behavior. We will go off the record. Oh, for heaven's sake. So I would like to understand how that permissible. It doesn't matter. We all are abiding by the same rules. I will take that down. Yeah, well. I would like to take a break at this moment. Yeah, I'd like to have a conversation. Boy, all that stick it to him truthiness and frothmouthed rage that the liberal elite suddenly turns into

Bobert stammering out an apology when confronted in person with the very real threat of censure over a defiant violation of House rules. Outside of the hearing, she continued to talk shit, mind you, even after this clip. What a clown shit, what a wet, multicolored clowns shit! When it was finally her turn to question Clinton, Bobert seized the opportunity to ramble out a bunch of nonsense grilling the former Secretary of State on the Pizza Gate theory, which was emphatically debunked a decade ago, back when Smashmouth was still alive. In past public statements, as in 2017 speeches and interviews, you described Pizza Gate as a

baseless conspiracy theory alleging you and others ran a child sex trafficking ring from a Washington pizzeria basement. Have you reviewed any 2025-20206 Epstein files that were released that you believe reference or relate to those specific 2016 claims regarding the Podesta emails, comment ping pong pizza used as code possibly? I'm sorry. You're asking her about whether she's reviewed emails in the Epstein files, which relate to the wacky PizzaGate scandal.

You could characterize it however you want. I just would like to know if she's familiar with any of them. So excuse me, your question is about whether or not she has reviewed any emails in the Epstein release files about PizzaGate. Correct. PizzaGate was totally made up. Extremely funny to just keep repeating their bad question back to them so they have to commit to it. It's just so very clear that Bobert's schick works well in character-limited bursts on brainworms social media platforms,

but when she's forced to say it out loud to a room full of lawyers, she sounds like a malfunctioning Teddy Ruxpin haunted by the spirit of a Confederate general, which is, of course, the problem across the board. Turns out a lot of the racist and fucked up stuff these people clack out on social media is actually pretty fucking mortifying to repeat when you have to look someone in the eyes. Who knew? We mentioned it in a previous episode, but it reminds me of when Laura Lumer sat down for a deposition and was asked to explain her own vile tweets against Marjorie Taylor Green. Lumer pretends not to know what she meant by the phrase, infested snatch, and claims under oath

that Green literally has roast beef in her pants, because what she really meant was that she had so much sex, her vagina exploded. But you can't say that in a deposition, especially one where you're suing another public figure for making sexual comments about you. Of course, Marjorie is yet another example of a person who doesn't seem to realize that the things you tweet have real-world consequences. In fact, you think that Speaker Pelosi is a traitor to the country, right? You're, I'm not answering that question. It's speculation and it's hypothetical. You've said that, having you, Ms. Green, that she's a traitor to the country. No, I haven't said that.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Oh, no. Wait. Hold on now. Referring to Speaker Pelosi, she's a traitor to our country. She's guilty of treason. She took an oath to protect the American

citizens. She gets aid in comfort to our enemies who would illegally invade our land. That's what treason is. And our law representatives and senators can be kicked out and no longer serve in our government. And it's a crime. punishable by death is what treason is Nancy Pelosi is guilty of treason. Did you say those words?

I said this is what I was telling you is I she doesn't uphold our laws. She allows you legal, I'm answering. She said those words without being instructed by him to say yes or no. I don't agree, Your Honor. This is cross-examinated. This is what I don't answer to my question. Representative. Did you say these words that are quoted on the bottom of it? Did you say that? According to the CNN article I did, I don't remember. Do you recall saying? I don't recall saying all of this, but I do recall having said this about the, I totally disagree with the border issues. Okay. Ask and answer. Next question. Okay.

God, it's like watching a toddler try to lie. That's Marjorie Taylor Green in a 2022 hearing that sought to prevent her from running for Congress again due to her role in the January 6th insurrection. Marge's unhinged violent rhetoric on Twitter is what made her a maga star. It's what got her elected. But when lawyers questioned her about her shenanigans in court, suddenly she deflated and slithered out of answering them directly because she knows that admitting to a statement, even if everyone already knows she made that statement, can be a serious issue in court

because acknowledging any of her violent language is the same as endorsing it. Imagine that. Being held accountable for the things you. you say. If Green admits to calling her political opponents traitors who deserve to be executed, lawyers can build a case that she supports violence against her Democratic Party rivals and would therefore endorse another insurrection. She got to run again anyway, of course. Even though she did all of those things in public and we all saw her say and do them, she didn't admit to them in court,

which means we can't be sure she did them. It's like a justice hack, I guess. Speak with of justice hacks, the human Shrek thumb Alex Jones is of course the king of not realizing the things you say on the internet have actual consequences. Jones has ginned up ratings with false flag conspiracies around the Sandy Hook shooting for years, leading to the harassment of the parents and families of the victims, as well as the suicide of one grieving father. Hey, what a piece of shit this Alex Jones guy is. But you know that. Alex is conspiracy grifter royalty, like the Nero of Texas. An excessively shirtless Nero? So, Caligula? Anyway, he got in super trouble for all of this, which meant that Alex Jones was going to have to sit in front of a lot of

serious people and explain himself. It's, uh, did not go well for him. You've done mocking imitations of Sandy Hook parents crying, correct? No. I want to play you a video clip, too, from September 24th, 2014, and November 11th, 2016. We play the video clip called Crying. And we see footage of one of the reported fathers of the victims, Robbie Parker, doing classic acting training where he's laughing and joking, and they say, hey, we're lying. He goes, oh, and maybe that's real.

I'm sure it is. You realize now, you were mocking the difficult emotional reactions of people who provably lost their children. No, I was not mocking. I was showing what people were questioning. It was not to mock the parents. It was showing why people were questioning.

It's you that is projecting, mocking onto it. I was showing what he did. Right. Turns out, much like Tucker, Alex didn't know his show was being taped or didn't care. He has an audience to pander to after all. Like, if there was ever a time to be on your best behavior, it's here.

But Alex Jones can't shut. He can't stop growling at a room full of lawyers like a mean dog trying to shit out the rest of a baseball. He couldn't shut his mouth so much that they actually started to put him on trial for shit he was saying about the judge in the trial. At one point, while being questioned about calling the judge a tyrant, Jones's lawyer actually takes everyone aside to complain that the line of questioning would likely trigger his client into spewing conspiracy theories. He's going to talk about if this goes on, Hillary, this, that, and everything else. And I thought that politics, you know, was out of it. He thinks this is a lot orchestrated by, excuse me, the effort of tyrann of tyrants, to silence, including George Zola, Hillary, Clinton, and others.

And by asking this question, the door is being opened. I say that's far. Yeah, that's, that opens the door. Look at that. three professionals quietly contemplating the fact that if they question Alex Jones, they'll unfortunately have to listen to Alex Jones. The lawyer there is basically saying, you can't ask my client about the murder because he's going to start crowing about how much he loves murder. And yet even he seems to be exhausted by the situation, which he clearly knows is ridiculous.

It's a group of adults having to deal with one very loud toddler, which feels like a lot of the clips we've been watching, right? It's sort of the point of this entire video, a reminder that none of these people are serious people. They're un-serious people who seem incapable of handling fundamental aspects of society. From Alex Jones to Cash Patel, I doubt they could even handle the process of renewing their driver's licenses, let alone a courtroom setting. And that's fascinating, because a lot of the people I've shown clips of have authority over our lives, our lives. And we need to examine why that happened. Specifically, that Trumpian slash Silicon Valley ideal of disruption and like, ah, you're sticking it to the elites. Because we all hate the elites, right? I mean, I do. I genuinely don't think it's good to have this dogmatic view of who gets to be in charge and who doesn't.

Just because someone is a career politician doesn't mean they're good. Just because something has always been done a certain way doesn't make it the right way. But also, Counterpoint, you gotta have people who know what they're doing. Like, yeah, doctors can be smug dicks, but you can't get your appendix removed in a bar bathroom either. But Trump used that distaste for elitism to swing the pendulum so far in the other direction that he seemingly convinced people to regard complete ignorance as a strength. And these videos show us the exact consequence of that. But that's not all it shows.

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That's Shopify. dot com slash more news. I was that a text from Cody again? Okay, whatever, that's it. I'm blocking that number. Well, lookie here, we're back. We were blasting bravely through examples of common right-wing grifters being forced to contend with serious people in serious settings

and laughing at how quickly their grifter schstick falls apart. I pointed out, bravely, how it shows that the magazine movement has largely embraced incompetence as an asset and are now seeing the fallout from that. But there's a bigger and braver thing to acknowledge here. It speaks to the core beliefs of the Republican Party and conservatism. Any politician on any side can stammer and squirm through a legal setting like this. I seem to remember a certain president having to talk his way out of a blowjob or two. But the reason this seems to be ramping up with conservatives and MAGA specifically is that so many of them now exist in this twilight state between objective reality and fantasy. Otherwise known as social media, so many of them are walking a tightrope because that's exactly what their beliefs are. I'm stating the obvious when I just say it. They have to lie to support their political positions and justify their careers.

So many of their base exists as online weirdos spreading misinformation that their survival hinges on appealing to them in real life, which means that, legally, on paper, they always have to struggle to define themselves. Fox News probably has the longest history of this. If you recall, they were hit with a massive defamation lawsuit by Dominion voting systems after the network relentlessly pushed the 2020 voter fraud conspiracy invented by Donovan. Donald Trump, who created the lie after losing the election to Joe Biden because babies get angry when you tell them they can't eat their own shit. Several Fox News hosts were deposed for their role in parroting the big, dumb lie that has utterly destroyed America in service of protecting the tiny precious feelings of its loudest racists. Chief among the deposed were Sean, ask Sean Hannity Hannity and Tucker, I like my eggs, milky Carlson. I just feel like that.

that's true. You might also remember Tuck as that liar from before, who we previously pointed out believes in very little and actually has hated Trump this whole time despite pretending not to. And sure enough, in internal communications that were revealed during the Fox News lawsuit, the majority of hosts and executives admitted they didn't buy the election lie at all. And flat out believe people like Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell were weirdos. They just pushed the baseless conspiracy because it drew good ratings by their own admission. In fact, despite inviting Powell on his show to make wild claims about Biden thugs attacking people in the streets for discussing voter fraud, Hannity admitted in his

deposition that he didn't believe her, quote, for one second. They didn't believe it, but they still went on the air and said stuff like this to an audience of millions. Tonight every American should be angry. You should be outraged. You should be worried, you should be concerned at what has happened in the election. The Dominion Software System has been tagged as one allegedly capable of flipping votes. How, for example, did senile hermit Joe Biden get 15 million more votes than his former boss, rock star crowd surfer Barack Obama? They didn't believe it, but they said it.

There's a name for that. Oh, actor. They're acting. And it should be noted that Fox's lawyers agree with me. See, Lawyers for Fox News had previously argued in a slander lawsuit against Tucker Carlson that his show was exaggeration and non-literal commentary. That's how Fox News gets by. They have to secretly claim, on paper, that they are entertainment in order to say the things they say. That their shows, which look indistinguishable from serious nightly news, aren't actually that thing.

This actually was a problem during the Dominion voting system stuff, because both Hannity and Tucker claimed under oath that they considered their shows to be credible sources of fact-based journalism, which is a big no-no. Apparently, Hannity and Tucker, like their viewers, didn't realize they're literally fake news and kind of perjured themselves, which is likely one of many reasons why Tucker no longer has a show

on the fake news network. The other being his bow-tie budget simply became too great to handle, which is why he's been going bowless. Tucker unbowed. But see, that's the price of perpetually walking this fine legal line in order to have a conservative news show in modern America. You get to say anything you want on the air, but speak extremely carefully in the courtroom.

Like a creep asking for a threesome. They're just joking, unless you're into it. Seems like, perhaps, that's a symptom of a fundamentally bad ideology. And while this is already unsettling with a news network, it's now the entire administration in charge. All of these people in official positions all existing on this really thin line between reality and fantasy. And it gets very unfunny when you realize why they stay on that line, which is to pull more and more people over it. That's the point, right? To usher as many people as they can into this fantasy version of the world. Because if you bring enough people over there,

then you no longer have to worry. At some point, your reward is getting to no longer walk the fine line and is getting to say the things you want to say and do the things you want to do. And they're getting close. Like, it is funny to watch them try to justify their indefensible actions, but they did do those actions. It's very cathartic to watch Pam Bondi, for example, implode over the fact that she works for a rapist and suspected pedophile. And none of them, none of them, ask Merrick Garland over the last four years one word about Jeffrey Epstein.

How ironic is that? You know why? Because Donald Trump, the Dow, the Dow right now, is over... The Dow is over $50,000... I don't know why you're laughing. You're a great stock trader, as I hear Raskin. Incredible. Like a movie. And then she got fired. Great work. But of course, Trump, the guy who was best friends with the child sex trafficker, is still just the president. He got away with it. Pam took that hit, just like she did with ICE when she had to deflect from objective reality. A recent Department of Justice National Institute of Justice Report based on arrest records in Texas and in California found that undocumented immigrants were less than half as a state of justice. likely as U.S.-born Americans to be arrested for homicide. There are TV ads that run that say

to local law enforcement, specifically, are you tired of having your hands handcuffed because you can't do the things you wanted to do when you joined, and if you want to do something different, join ICE, and you'll get a $50,000 bonus and we'll pay off your debt, student debts, and we'll help you with pensions, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Why are we trying to get people, policemen, who are working on the front lines to leave the front lines, take the $50,000 and go to work for ICE instead of working to fight the worst to the worst. Congressman, I have not yet seen that commercial, that ad. I would argue that we need strong people in both local law enforcement, state law enforcement,

and all of our federal agencies working together. I've seen some of the worst of the worst violent criminals, violent criminals who were in this country illegally. We both know that. Doesn't matter that she has no non-fantasy answer there. Doesn't matter that ICE's conduct violates the Constitution on its face, or that Pam Bondi looked like a kid's speed running through One Piece lore while being questioned by Congress, because it didn't stop ICE from unlawfully detaining and deporting thousands of people, brutalizing thousands more, and murdering dozens of others. That harm was still allowed. The fact that we're questioning it after the fact doesn't bring back all the people

people deported to countries like El Salvador or into anonymous prison work camps whom we will never see again in all likelihood. I can watch as many TikTok clips of Senators dunking on Pete Hegseth as I want, but that school full of bombed Iranian children is going to stay bombed. Those children are still dead. The Doge Boys might have looked like a creepy youth ministry group trying to lie about fingering the class hamster, but this was 12 months after they'd been given unmonitored and unrestricted. access to the government's most sensitive information. They'd already fired thousands of people and erased hundreds of billions of dollars in government funding and scientific research, including vital support for things like UNICEF.

The Doge Boys were responsible for eliminating over $100 million in grant funding from the National Endowment for the Humanities, and were awarded well over $100,000 in compensation for doing so, because what we're seeing is somehow worse than liars trying to griff their way into doing bad things. They don't have to bring people over into their fantasy world anymore because they realized that they can just do the bad things and then try to lie afterward. Throw enough low-level dildos into the grinder who can take the blame. Dragging the doge boys into court a year after they revoked funding for UNICEF doesn't bring all those dead, starved disease-stricken children back to life. And what's so infuriating is that everyone knew that when they

Anyone serious who lived in reality knew that Doge was going to make things worse and that they were just using it as an excuse to attack minorities But no one stopped it and now they are admitting it after the fact Why did you identify this as one of the craziest friends? Um Because it references Feminist and queer insights into prison abolition and LGBTQ studies Any other reasons?

No. It's like watching your idiot friend buy into an MLM knowing that you're going to have to hear them whine about it a few months later. And it's fucking weird this is happening. I don't know, like, law stuff. But it's weird that these people will just say they're going to do something. A bunch of other serious people are like, well, I think that's illegal. And then they just do it.

And then like a year later, some report comes out that says, yep, illegal. Shouldn't have done that. And then we just move on. Because I guess we never had a way to stop them in the first place. It was just an honor system this whole time where politicians just assumed they would get in trouble if they did something wrong. But the moment we didn't do anything after January 6th, Trump realized that wasn't the case. He realized that the easiest way to drag people over that line from reality to fantasy is to just do. Just do the stuff because nobody will bother to punish you afterward because they're afraid they'll be seen as too partisan and then your fantasy world is made real easy as that The good news is that this hasn't fully worked or rather everyone who isn't Trump is getting screwed These meatballs haven't taken over reality so much that they no longer feel the need to explain themselves

Our sweet vanilla bean doge angels notwithstanding They clearly don't feel like they're above the law yet, although some of them are getting pretty close. But the consequences are rolling in, at least for lower levels. You can't just, you know, arrest someone for making a joke about Charlie Kirk. And it turns out the law still agrees with me there. And people are now winning lawsuits over that. That's great. After all, the entire point of laws is to prevent future crimes that hurt others.

If you don't get in trouble for arresting someone for their free speech, then you're signaling that you can do that again. And so to follow that logic, if we perhaps don't want a future where politicians and officials can do whatever they want and get zero punishment besides an awkward deposition or two, well, then we're going to have to go hard with accountability after this. We're going to have to do the thing we all want to do and pin it all on JD Vance and put him specifically in jail for life. How funny would that be, folks? Just put it all on him, everything. Watergate, the Manson murders, you name it. Nobody else in jail but him. Let everyone else out. Oh, that'll put a smile on the old beard. Vance for prison 2028 or earlier. Vance for prison whenever soon. Vance in prison now. Everyone else is fine. You know, vans in prison, Whenever makes sense. If you heard sirens during the end there, that was them getting vans. If you didn't, I shouldn't have mentioned it.

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