Some More News - Some More News: Trump Fires Pam Bondi

Episode Date: April 3, 2026

Hi. On today's show, Some More News head writer Dave Bell joins Katy, Cody, and Jonathan to talk about the firing of Pam Bondi, Donald Trump's two astounding TV appearances on Wednesday, how the war is going to continue indefinitely, and the Supreme Court's ruling against bans on conversion therapy. And as always, we recorded right before that big thing that happened.Check out our new show STREAMIN' MORE NEWS: https://www.youtube.com/live/a3OYcDbd_EcPATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comYOUTUBE MEMBERSHIP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/joinSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hi, hello. Today we talk about the firing of Pam Bondi, a tale of two Trump TV appearances and what the Supreme Court unfortunately got up to this week. More news. The first and only news podcast. My name is Katie Stoll. Hello, Katie Stoll. I am Cody. Johnston. Today, today, well, this isn't a guest. This is a guest. This is a man. member of our family. Some More News, head writer, David Bell. Bell. Hi. Ding, ding, ding, ding. I've been playing a Star Trek Voyager game. Is it good? Yeah, I think. It's a dicting. It's like a strategy type thing. It's a strategy, it's a survival strategy game called Star Trek Voyager across the unknown. It's like a resource management thing. Our buddy Michael Swain turned me on to it. You're speaking my language, Dave. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, it'll spoil the show a little bit, Cody. If you haven't watched Star Trek Voyager. Jonathan is also here. Hi. Hey. He's on vacation, but he is also here. I am, yeah.

I'm not in an Airbnb or a hotel with this lovely rocking chair. I am in my mother-in-law's house, and she has graciously allowed me to turn her bedroom into a recording studio. for the hour. There are 10 million things that we could talk about and probably should and are it's impossible. To start, I guess, with the 90 million things happened about an hour ago. Pam Bondy's out.

Scram Bondi. Get out of here. Nice. Is the headline. Thank you. Pam Bondi, Scram Gone Me. Scram gone she. Just put that up there.

That's Movino part two. Scrams on she. Scram? Gone she. And yeah, she's out, apparently. And it's been some rumors a little bit about that. And it is confirmed. She's out. She will be temporarily replaced by Todd Blanche, I believe. Yeah. Deputy AG. And then the rumor is that he's going to put in EPA Chief Lee Zeldin. Yeah, we've mentioned him in previous episodes about how he's really bad for the EPA. So, Let's move on over to another place he can be bad at, I guess. But an interesting thing we wanted to bring up related to this is that Pam Bondi is the second high-profile cabinet member to be reassigned. We don't know what her new fake job is going to be yet, but reassigned after Christy Noem.

And he hinted Trump did earlier today or yesterday. I can't remember which at this point, that he gets really bad press. so maybe Caroline Leavid is doing a bad job as his press secretary, and what is the common threat among those three cabinet members? Well, one more, Jonathan. There are also reports that he's polling cabinet members about Tulsi Gabbard as well. Oh, that confirms the pattern. Oh, no.

They said that she's getting a new job in the private sector for Pan Bondi. Oh, so not in the administration. Yeah, I'm thinking Lucasfilm. Lucas films. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Trump says Pam Bondi to join the private sector. Interesting. He says a lot of stuff. But he can't assign her to that. Right, right. Right. I'm going to tee up Cody to talk about a point he made prior to starting to record. Oh, thank you. Administration number one. Yes. It was a big running through line joke being, oh, another one fired. Cody, you're teed up. He's the fire guy. He likes to fire people. He's famous for firing people. He had a whole show about firing people. And then he had another show about firing people. And then he had a first term of being the president where he fired everybody. And one thing that happened there is he'd fire somebody because he felt betrayed or whatever. And then that person would tend to go out and sort of talk about what a disaster it was or, you know, do a tell-all book or whatever. The scaramuchies of the world who feel betrayed by him and then go out and are the resistance or

whatever. And I guess this might not be the case for Pam Bondi, but it does seem like there was a developing sort of new method where, yes, he has these high profile firings, but he moves them to other places in the administration in like smaller roles so that they don't do the thing that they did in the first term. Yeah. But maybe she's going to, you know, I would argue that it works the same thing with Pam Bondi, perhaps not another position within the administration. But But the optics of Pambandi is leaving for a private position is different than Pambondi is fired. Exactly, yes. So I still think it goes along with that.

I also just want to, you know, as I was already alluded to, the common through line outside of Bovino here of firings or reassignments so far, this time around is women. And we're going to be talking about this more in an episode in the future about the dynamic of MAGA women. Is it good? No. You get these ladies out here and trot them out to carry water for this administration while they're working against their own best interests and they are the first to get thrown under the bus. It is, I mean. Predictable? It's a pattern.

It's a pattern. It's pathetic. I don't have sympathy or empathy. But if they were any other type of people, I'd be like, you're victims of this machine, but you are perpetrating this machine. So anyway, we will talk more about that dynamic in the future. But, man, it's right there. Kelly Leffler at the Small Business Administration has to hope that Trump does not remember who she is. I promise you.

that he does not. CNN reports that Pam Bondi was, you know, fired because of his frustration with the Epstein files and that she hadn't prosecuted enough of his political opponents, but that he was also heartened

by how well his reassigning of Christenome went, and so now he's going to be less wary of doing more firings in the future. That makes sense. It's the Venezuela effect. Oh, that worked out fine, so I'll do that.

Even though, you know, I would argue that maybe the Christy gnome firing didn't go smooth. Maybe we'll talk about some of that. But he definitely, like, you know, we've talked about with Venezuela that, quote unquote, worked for him. And so he's like, oh, I can just do that. I can just do that all the time everywhere.

And so he's going to do that all the time everywhere. This private sector thing does make me wonder if she was like, I'm quitting. And then he, like, just quickly made an announcement of like, I'm firing her. You can't quit because I fired. Yeah, you can't quit. There's a world where riding on the wall. know it's coming down the pipeline and some off the record suggestions of finding other employment. Who's to say?

Yeah. This will be bold over in the news cycle immediately. I feel like a lot of them are our cruise in LinkedIn right now. You know, like there's probably that general feeling. Honestly, in his first term, too, because like you said, Cody, like this is how he thinks being a leader is, right? is you pit everybody against each other and you make them all kind of fight each other like a reality TV show

and then you sit there and you give thumbs up, thumbs down to them. And you kind of promise it's just, this is funny, I think it was Joe Rogan who said this about Fear Factor. It might have been the other guy. I think it was Joe Rogan. I forget, it doesn't matter.

But he was talking about how it's like all these people fighting to win an amount of money that isn't either even my salary. where it's that feeling of like reality TV is that, right? Is the only winner is the host who's like, yeah, I come back every year to watch you all fight each other. And it's that, right? And you publicly embarrass yourself and ruin your life and then new season.

Right. Everybody's just expendable under him. And that's kind of that where it's... Well, and that trickles down. That's the whole, like, that's the hierarchy that they want to establish. It's the sort of hierarchy of trickle down abuse because he does that. And then everyone beneath him has the... their own little team where they do that to them.

And then it just goes all the way down and everybody's sort of clawing to be like. In succession. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Let's talk about his two big speeches on Wednesday because that is what a. Yeah. There's so much and so little to say about the speech Wednesday night, more to say about the Easter brunch speech, whatever that was. But I just couldn't get out of my head. It's like this man has us all by the throats and announces this big speech, prime time.

And so everybody's waiting and debating. What will he, won't he say? We're all nervous. We're scared. Is this? What could possibly come out of his mouth on primetime TV? That's so, nothing. Fucking nothing.

The same shit. Also a lot of lies and raging lies. But it's just, God, I resent. it so much. I want my life back. I didn't watch these speeches. And I have like a conspiracy theory, which is that if something real happens, it won't beat Trump. It'll be like J.D. Vance will come up. Be like, okay, so this is, aliens have come down.

Maybe. Or like, there's a title wave or like there's like when the shit actually hits the fan, I just feel like Trump goes up there now and he kind of rambles and it's hard to understand what he's saying. And in the end, like you said, where it's just like, well that was a big waste of everyone's time and that's true every time and like i you know everyone is like oh my god what's going to be is this is this this this and i'm not going to be like i knew it was bullshit but like obviously it's like bullshit like he does this all the time whenever he says i'm going to do a speech tonight it's just what he said because earlier in the day he did this weird easter brunch hour long speech and it wasn't supposed to be released because they took it down

and it's still available. You can watch it. But that was, we'll see, we'll talk about it. That was about an hour or something of him just sort of rambling. And that was him. That was his, that was him inside letting it all out and talking about his like weird little thoughts and his opinions and the truth. That was the true speech. Because in it, he literally said, I'm going to give a speech tonight.

I'm probably just going to talk about how great I am. And that's what it was. It was another one of his things where it was like, yeah, I'm feeling a little down. I want to go out. be the president and say, I'd do it a great job. But before, at this weird private speech, that's when the truth happened. And I think that's, yeah, like, that's the interesting dynamic of when he thinks he's kind of in private, but not really, and the press is there, but we still get video of it. That's when he says, oh, yeah, we're going to do war forever. Oh, yeah, we can't do this. We can't do this.

We'll get to all the clips. And then later, Katie, as you alluded to, it's just lies. It's just him lying for however long and trying to gas himself up. And it's a waste of time. The interesting stuff was earlier. And to button up the primetime speech, because I don't think we're going to watch too many clips from that, is he ended up not announcing really anything. And I'm not the first person to say this. It looked like a stitched together collection of his truth social posts over the last week

that he read aloud. We've won. We've beaten them. They're totally decimated. Anyway, we're going to hit them really hard over the next two to three weeks. Didn't really say much about what happens after that. And somehow inexplicably thought that that's the message that Americans needed to have a masked singer and survivor interrupted. And it blew up in his face because what happened was the market crash, oil surged, which presumably was what he was trying to not do by reassure. assuring the country. There's so much,

I keep saying this, hubris, ego, blinding him. Like, he just keeps digging his whole deeper and making it worse,

thinking like, I can magic my way out of this. I can trump my way through this. Doesn't have the juice, man. He looked, well, he looked like he was

being weakened and birdied up there. But you're right. We should watch some of the clips from earlier in the day, but I want to highlight, just piggyback

on what Jonathan is saying, that is the essence of the speech. Some notable moments was citing how long World War I and World War II and the Vietnam War, et cetera, dragged on. And then saying, yeah, ours, 35 days or whatever.

But it's not war. Not war. Right, you could multiply this war by 10 and it won't be as long as those are, but we're not going to do that, but I'm not saying that. Like, it makes you think it's like the length of,

I didn't even want a definitive timetable about the length of the war unless you're leaving immediately, and he made it seem like it is going to go much longer than any of us thought. But the point of that, like all of this felt woven into this speech, felt like opportunities for him to address the various criticisms being launched, this one being, he said no more forever wars. So trying to make that distinction, which I guess we should change the phrase to no more wars. Just no more. Right. That's what we meant, by the way. That's what we meant.

That's what we meant. Not we, but other people. Yeah. But I'm saying that this speech felt like a desperate, like, look, this, what were we supposed to do? The Iranians walked out in negotiations. Fact check, please, sir. And then the other part that made me just grab my air was the point when he says to other countries

We don't need their oil We got lots of gas Lots of gas But the other countries We have so much gas We have so much gas I don't know We're so gassy over here Remember because of our drill baby drill program

America has plenty of gas We have so much gas Under my leadership We are number one producer of oil and gas on the planet without even discussing the millions of barrels that we're getting from Venezuela. Oh, also saying that you're going to put Iran back into the Stone Ages? We're going to hit them extremely hard over the next two to three weeks.

We're going to bring them back to the Stone Ages where they belong. I'm real curious about that because Trump means it in the metaphorical sense. of like we're going to blow all their stuff up. But Pete Hegeseth, does he, what does he think the Stone Ages were? Because I think the timeline would put it around the beginning, like Genesis. Like, is he thinking of it in a biblical sense

or is Pete Hegeseth also just saying, back to the Stone Age, which would be a complete war crime? What a cool thing to say? It's a little bit of both, honestly. Like, he is doing his holy war. That is what is going on in his mind. but yeah he just wants to sound

like a war guy right I think they're thinking about a Flintstones episode that they really like and then they get really hungry for meat and they're like do people have rent fares anymore what was I doing

and then they move on with their day ham hawk that I can hold and yeah quickly while we're on the topic of bombing around into the stone ages highlight this post

from drop site news that I saw today before we started recording, according to them. U.S. Israeli strikes have damaged or destroyed more than 90,000 Iranian homes, as residents described an increasingly indiscriminate pattern of bombardment, Bloomberg reports. It's not like they hit one block for one person. They hit three or five blocks expecting that the person will be in one of them. I don't even need to continue with this.

You get my point. Yeah, they just want to bomb the crap out of them. and walk away, but not actually because they're going to do it forever. He even said, so the Strait of Hormuz stuff, he said, in his nighttime speech, in his daytime speech,

he also addressed this. And I think he revealed even more a little bit because he's less sleepy. So let them do it. Let France do it. They get a lot of oil from the strait. Let the European countries do it. Let South Korea.

who was not helpful to us, by the way. Let South Korea, you know, we only have 45,000 soldiers in harm's way over there right next to a nuclear force. Let South Korea do it. Let Japan do it. They get 90% of their oil from the strait. Let China do it. Let them all do it. What the hell are we doing it for?

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through sheer force of personality. We have a regime change like nobody thought was possible. No plan, no sense of how anything is connected. There's no, like he has no sense of the world and how it works and how things operate globally.

And he's just like, oh, I didn't plan for that. So, and I don't think it's going to go well personally, but. I try to remind myself every day, like, that idea of like, when he became president, he didn't know anything about this. And he hires a bunch of people don't know anything.

And so, like, I feel like it's easy to fall into this, like, when we start talking about, like, what are they thinking? What's their plan? And it's like, I always keep reverting back to that. And I'm just, it just reminds me, like, I don't think he just knows what he's doing. This is what happens when you hire someone who's like, I don't know how to do this job. And I think you should hire me because that's a refreshing change of pace. And then they hired him and they're like, I don't know what all these buttons are. I'm just going to start hitting buttons and shit starts going wrong every single time he's been elected, which I guess is only two times.

And then everybody's like, what does he think? And what's the plan? And I'm like, I don't think there was ever a plan. I don't think he, like, there's maybe vague plans. But it's like, well, he doesn't understand consequences of those plans. He's like, well, I want to do this and then this. And then if somebody's like, okay, but if you do that, then this will happen. He's not going to hear that.

Because he's always gotten out of everything. Because he doesn't, I don't, he probably never has plans. He has a plan to get started or an idea to get started and consequences be damned. He, because he doesn't have consequences or he can pay his way out of it. He's always been able to get out of it one way or another. I would posit that that's true for most of his life. Yeah. Right.

And to not know that Iran, the regime, will have thought about what they would do if this ever happened, which the U.S. and Israel, through many administrations, have threatened to do or talked about doing for decades. So, of course, they were going to have a plan of, hey, what are we going to do if they start bombing us? Well, here's the pressure point. Here's the leverage we have over them. You know something about Americans? They don't like paying a lot of money for gas and they don't like when their food price. prices double to not think that that is the exact thing that they would do. He just doesn't care. He doesn't care. He said there would be while running before he was elected. He said there will be, or maybe it was right after, I don't fucking know, temporary pain for long-term growth or what have you. I mean, he said the war in Ukraine would be over in like four days or whatever.

How much could a banana cost, Michael? We want to be fair in balance. So counterpoint, Dave, you were talking about how he doesn't know anything. He's not really up and up on like any. He has no information. He's not a smart guy. Counterpoint, according to RFK Jr., quote, Trump has encyclopedic molecular knowledge across a wide range of very eclectic interest.

Broadway shows golf. One time, he grabbed a placemat, turned it over, took a Sharpie, and drew a perfect map of the Middle East. Then he marked the troop strength of every country along each border on that map. It challenged a lot of the assumptions I had been told about. him. He has this extraordinary depth of knowledge about what's happening in each of the agencies, my agency and the others, and he has an instinct for making good choices. You remember the always sunny episode where Charlie becomes smart, super smart? And he's speaking

Mandarin and all the other people, all the other gang just assumes he's speaking Mandarin. Because nobody knows how to speak Mandarin. That's what, right? Like, that's him showing a map that he, like, it scribbled map. Look at my confidence. And RFK being like, yep, that's definitely what the Middle I've seen risk. Yeah. I would like to play this clip of Trump, laying it all out there of what he really thinks his job is and what the federal government should spend money on. This is clearly unfiltered Trump.

Because the United States can't take care of daycare. That has to be up to a state. We can't take care of daycare. We're a big country. We have 50 states. We have all these other people. We're fighting wars. We can't take care of daycare.

You've got to let a state take care of daycare, and they should pay for it, too. They should pay. They have to raise their taxes, but they should pay for it. And we could lower our taxes a little bit to them to make up. But it's not possible for us to take care of daycare. Medicaid, Medicare, all these individual things. They can do it on a state basis. You can't do it on a federal.

We have to take care of one thing, military protection. So I'm sorry Okay So first of all We're fighting what? We're fighting what? Wars. Combat operations wars.

Okay, we're fighting wars So thank you to Donald of the Dove. Obviously, we have to point out that Very recently Pete Heggseth said, quote, that the problem with Iran is that it spends money on weapons and missiles instead of improving life for its people. There you go.

Rubio has said that. Rubio said that. They're all saying that. It might not be a direct quote. so whatever, but I don't care. Fuck him. It's wild. He said that out loud.

We all know that. That's obviously true. And that's what he thinks. But he said it out loud. I can't. I mean, obviously, if the Democrats don't just like plaster that every fucking day until midterms, then they're, they deserve to lose. But they will do that because that's absurd that he said that. It's also being reported that his proposed budget in 2027 is going to be just the military.

And he's going to cut a bunch of. like going to cut Medicare, going to cut Medicaid, going to cut all these welfare social programs in favor of the military. He said it there and that is what the proposal will be. Also, other countries can do that. So why do you think we can't do it on a federal level? We don't need to get in the weeds about that. But it is, it, it's. It's the talking point right now. I can't believe he said that. I can't believe that he said that. You can believe it. But, like, everybody, if you know anybody in your life who likes this man, just like, show him that. We can't pay for daycare because we have all these wars that we're doing.

That's it. Medicare. That is true. Medicare. Medicare. We can't pay for Medicare and Medicaid because military protection is all we should do. I just, I go back to something we said in an episode about, like, asking, like, every politician I do think should be asked, like, what's the perfect, world.

And just like, do people have to work jobs in a perfect world? Do people have to worry about going to the doctor in a perfect world? And like, the perfect world is, of course, like, not necessarily obtainable. But that question of like, shouldn't we be like making policy pointed in that direction? Wouldn't that be what we want our politicians to do even on a federal level? Like, I see Trump's weird philosophy here, which is like the federal government, we're the we're the protectors. We deal with the other countries around us.

And the states on the inside, they can deal with all the people and stuff like that, which is a stupid philosophy. We don't protect you from disease or injury or anything like that. Right. But like this general idea of like, yeah, this should be an instant suicide.

Political suicide. It should be. Because it's like shouldn't like even again, even if you're like, oh, it's hard or it's like, You can say, like, it's hard to pay for this stuff while we're paying for that stuff. But the goal should always for a government to be maintaining its citizens as best as it can. General welfare. And it's weird that, like, they can just say shit like this.

Well, most transparent presidency ever, right? Yeah, that's right. Transparent. Yeah. It's been very clear the whole time that he does not care for the lives of American citizens. It's about America projecting some concept of strength, even though we're clearly on the decline in some capacity, you know, like projecting some idea, being bullies around the world, you know, just a cash grab. When people are already struggling, like this message after what

we've already been through, all the cuts that we've already suffered, the amount of people that lost their health insurance, I have some friends, some people that I know, uh pillars of the community appear and the man has been having a form of cancer for the last 14 years and apparently lost coverage in october and couldn't get his treatment for the past six months and now has found some place something that he can get the treatment but has to drive two hours to get it and by the time he's started the treatment up again, he's dying. Like his numbers of Skybird. He has lived with this for 14 years and now he's he's dying and these are people I care about. And I know that so many people, I'm preaching to the choir here. I'm sure we all have stories of people whose lives have been

upended. But to say, to say that we're going to cut more to float the idea, I know that this clip doesn't say that specifically, but yes, his proposed budget apparently does. It's so beyond the pale gruesome. I don't even have the words to articulate everything that I'm feeling about this mess. I just hope people understand the fundamental mindsets

that create this so that it's not like, okay, Trump was bad, but I'll vote for the next Republican. Like, we're going to run the country like a business. And it's like businesses are in competition with other businesses. That's how he sees the country in the world, right?

It's like, keep other people out. We're fighting other countries for the stuff. And then internally, well, you guys just have to deal with it. The departments, the different departments have to manage their departments, and we're going to have to tighten the belt every now and then. And like, it's that vibe where it's like when you run the country like a business, well, then that makes us employees, which makes us like, yeah, you're going to have to make some sacrifices for this purpose of, I don't know what,

world domination of being the best country compared to the other countries or something. It's just such a broken mindset that he has. Yeah, it's really rotted. It's really a diseased sort of way to look at the world. I just want to know what the time frame is because people forget, right? Like, we've been through this before. And so you just have to hope, like, is this big enough and bad enough that people will remember? Actually remember.

and not vote for J.D. Vance or Marco Rubio, who aren't just Republicans who are actively part of this administration, huge members of this administration. You're not going to vote for them in a couple years, are you? 70 million, sure, but not 80 million. They're not distinct enough to warrant that or to justify that. They're all a part of this viewpoint and this movement. It kind of depends on if he dies and then Vance takes over for X amount of time

and I don't know, guys, this is fucking ongoing nightmare with no end in sight. I think he's going to live to be 110. Oh. I feel like I hate to be so bad. Oldest man alive. Oldest man alive. God damn mouth.

Here's another one just about the Trump mindset, which we all know already, but here is him really spelling it out. My friend, great show. I love this guy. He's so nice to me. Every time I watch, and I appreciate.

You know, we're not supposed. supposed to be seduced that way, right? But I am. When somebody's nice to me, I love that person. Even if they're bad people, I couldn't care less. I'll fight to the end for them. You just call him a bad person. He falls into Adam Sandler sometimes.

I were not supposed to be. But I am. That's just what a dog would say, though. That's no way to operate, buddy. You can't be doing that, especially as the president. If they're nice to you, but they're bad people, what are you implying? It's so

Just and that's one of many many clips of just him just sort of puking out his inner self He's remarkably honest sometimes Oh yeah no I just want to point out this is I think originally why people liked him I think this is what we're seeing there is actually What made people like Trump because I I do agree that there's been so many politicians in the past that feel so curated Like a JD Vance type where it's like everything they're saying has been pre-planned, every laugh feels fake, where it's kind of refreshing or like it was at first to see a guy come on stage and go like,

I don't know, man, like I don't know, I can't be mean to people. When someone's nice to me, even if they're a bastard, I have to be nice back. I like it. Like those are human, kind of like human instincts that like we all kind of have, right? Where it's like, if someone's polite to us, we naturally are like, want to be polite. Oh, should I be polite? But it's gotten old, I think, for most people now. Like, that charm is like...

Less charming. Yeah, combined with what's happening in the country. And the damage is more clear, too. Right. Like, you, you, those things can seem refreshing in a pool of, like, Marco Rubio's and JD Vanzas and so on. He's on stage in 2015 being like, look at these fucking guys. Come on.

Jamah, get out of here. Like, that's, we all loved that. It's entertaining. and it does call out something real, even though he's doing the same kind of thing. But then, like you're saying, like, yeah, together with what's actually going on, those honest moments you really see, like, oh, that's why it's bad.

That's why he shouldn't think like that and say those things, because it leads us to where we are now. I have seen him as authentic, because he certainly doesn't try to pretend to be anything other than he is. But they've missed. They mistook authenticity with honesty. He is an authentic liar. He is an authentic con man.

He doesn't work hard to cover that part up. He is who he is. But in the pursuit of his objectives, he'll lie, lie, lie. So, but that initial impression seems to have gone such a long way. For people that want to believe it anyway, they want to believe that, like, that's our guy. Finally, someone come here, that an authentic person. Yeah, but people have bad thoughts. He's funny.

He's making jokes about it. He's not perfect, but he's telling you who he is. Partially why people like Bernie Sanders a lot as well. He's just, this is the guy he is. It doesn't seem like he's any different. That's why Joe Rogan said he really liked Bernie Sanders. He's just authentic. He's been on this a long time.

I think it's a lot why people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She seems authentic and isn't always doing the politician thing. And then sometimes when she tries to do the politician thing, right, like. They're mad at her. And there's reasons, yeah. What's funny is. It's a joke, everybody. I was just.

Mom Donnie is actually the opposite where he seems curated in this very weirdly charming way. Like he's the roadrunner. Does that make sense? He's just very good at his head. And he's just like, always has something for it. Yeah, he turns it on. He's always turning it on. There's no off switch.

He's very impressive. I think he's authentic authentically authentically, the roadrunner. Yeah, he always has the wings to fly over the mountain that has the train tunnel painted

on it somehow. He's just like ready to go with it. Or it just turns out to be a real tunnel and he just like walks right through it. Oh right, yeah, the painted tunnel becomes a real tunnel. That's always fun. Just to sort of because we can't get to everything obviously and this is just a speech of him shitting out his stupid thoughts. So we're not going to play

everything. But he did refer to Somali Americans as low IQ and bad people and said that it's okay that he generalizes which I find pretty disgusting and alarming. He's faced no consequences for using that language. No, we're just

racist. I mean, I talked about genetics recently in a really disgusting way too. I don't think we had time to talk about it when it happened. Was it was it Brian Kilmead? He's like they don't have genetics like we do like you and me? Was it Kilmead? That was just like looking down and not paying attention or pretending he's He didn't hear that part.

He's not on television at the time. Yeah. Yeah. Really, really embarrassing and shameful. He said out loud, frankly, Christians, I think they like Israel more than Jewish people like Israel. It's really true is what he said. While he's saying that, just, that's, that we'll get to more. I just like, there were so many things that he said that were, I hate him.

Let's move on. He is signed an executive order to ban mail and ballot. this question is he is he banning so from reading the notes it sounds like he can't ban mail on ballots so he's telling the USPS don't mail the mail in ballots unless we approve them unless what DHS approves it with this special barcode and I guess the like so it's like a state can be like we're doing mail in ballots here here they are but if he doesn't if the USPS like if the Department of Home Pen Security tells the USPS like, no, don't mail those. They're not supposed to, which is several crimes, if that is what I'm...

I believe that's the gist of this, the workaround. It is going to be challenged in court. It is not... I have a hard time believing that this will stand, but it's important to note... It's DOA. Like, yeah, you can't do this. But it is important to note the barrage of the test. I thought he was a king. So why is it not going to work?

Sorry. I'm so honest. Let's talk about SCOTUS, shall we? There was one SCOTUS ruling and one oral argument. I want to try to talk about them both earlier this week. In an 8 to 1 ruling with Jackson being the only dissenting vote, the Supreme Court ruled that Colorado's ban on conversion therapy for minors was a violation of free speech. There's some technicalities here that they said, like, well, the lower court should have done

strict scrutiny and then go back to it, but essentially said that laws banning conversion therapy, well, that's a violation of free speech because the therapist is just talking, right? That's basically the argument, even though you can't, if you're a doctor, you can't tell someone to smoke, right? there's an oath, there's a code, you're not allowed to do harmful, stuff like that. So it's a very troubling ruling that was expected, but considering that Kagan and Sotomayor signed on to this.

That's the wildest part to me. And I guess it's because of the technicality, like had it been broader in some capacity than it could have stood and yeah they're saying that if the ban had been aimed at a complete ban on conversion therapy instead of just talk therapy the you know that that would be an issue for them but since this is just the talk part i think is what they're saying yeah it's like law nerd shit right where it's like kind of emotionally removed and it's like pretending that talk therapy isn't as bad as bad and it's like it's like pretending that talk therapy isn't as bad and it's like it's like it's like it's like like like. as it is because on paper they can make it seem like, oh, no, it's not, it's not the same thing. Given with everything else that has happened in such a short period of time, so much targeting of the LGBTQ, the trans community, it's, it's heartbreaking to watch this unfold.

And we spend so much time talking about everything else that's happening. and I know that people watching this show are affected by this. People and their lives are being changed seismically. And it's just so overwhelming and scary, you know. And it's not just, and everybody knows this and we know this and we talk about it, but it's not just like, well, the bathrooms is the problem. And sports, that's the problem. It's across the board and they make it clear all the time.

I wanted to highlight this. post from so the Democrats posted transgender day of visibility was a couple days ago and they posted a very simple message. Trans rights are human rights. This transgender day of visibility, we honor the resilience of transgender and non-binary Americans and celebrate their incredible courage. Didn't mention bathrooms, didn't mention sports, didn't mention anything, just said, trans people exist and that's good and fine. The GOP, the Senate Republican account, quote tweeted it with no heart emoji. They're disgusting.

They don't care. It's not about the one that, well, it's just about this. We don't care if, like, if you're trans, whatever. Call yourself whatever you want. They don't actually believe that. It's a campaign of denial and eradication. That's what it is. They make it clear all the time.

And, again, this isn't news. I just like, I saw that and I was like, what the fuck are we do? What the fuck are you doing? Like, it's just like this trying to get like these just like likes from a bunch of fucking like groopers and like stupid blue check accounts. I don't know. There's this idea, right, that like every, like I feel like every political party wants to frame what they're doing as offense or no, sorry, as defense, right? And that is often the case where it's like, you know, protest. and stuff like that.

It's like, you know, ISIS, we want to stop them. Shooting people in the street, we're defense of that. And I think they just stopped caring about those optics, or they've convinced enough people. Because they have this, like, little packet of reasoning, right? Where, like, it started with, like, oh, it's just about sports or bathrooms or young people. And then once enough people were just kind of like, yeah, we got it, we got it, we got it. You've made your excuses.

They can just go on offense. now and do shit like this because like they can fall back on like well it's about this and this and this when it obviously never was like just Twitter or whatever but like it was never defense in the first place but it's

also creating a problem out of nothing um I keep coming back to that in my mind um trans people have always existed always have always always will LGBTQ people have always existed always have always will

and it's become such a fear tactic, a scare tactic right now for this party and they focus on it and then it brings more attention to it. And then, you know, they've created an outsized problem. We all know and accept this. In my mind, I keep coming back to, like, they're so afraid of people just like be, their minds being warped into being queer in some capacity. And I'm like, no, open it up. Let us all talk about sexuality.

Let us be free and open so that people know exactly who they are. So that down the line, we have well-adjusted happy people. And I can't help but bring up Christy Knoem right now in this moment. Like I don't think we really need to spend much time right here doing this. And I'm not saying that Brian Knoam is a closeted gay man, but he obviously has some kinks. And we have created a world full of shame. So that instead of being who he is in probably a healthy,

relationship and having a life that is fulfilling, he's doing illicit things and in a sham marriage with his wife who is working for an administration that despises people like him? What are we even talking about? You know, even again, we're not talking about the gnome thing that much, but pretty clear that a lot of her political motivations and ideological positions probably stem from this one personal relationship and how he's, sour that has turned her. And it's just not healthy or good. And then we're just kink shaming this person. It's a reminder that as they're like oppressing others, there is this like trickle down self oppression, right? Where it's all these people in this club or like removed from this.

Like you're born in a certain family and you're expected to do certain things. And like the dogma of that family is like, you know, you're going to go to these schools. You're going to be successful. you're going to marry this type of person. And it's like, you know, God forbid you exist differently. You are different from those expectations. And that's all this, right? And I think it's tied in with a lot of things.

It's tied in. I always think about like, well, we talked about conversion therapy and stuff like that. This idea, this weird idea of like being gay is this like demonic thing. whispering on your shoulder from outside forces. And it's like the only way you would conclude that is if you're really depressed and you feel like maybe you're gay and it's this nagging thing in your life. Like that's where that shit has come from. That you choose to reject. Right.

That's why you think that. Yeah. And therefore other people should be able to do this too or therefore it's a choice. And it's like, no, it's a sad choice that you're making in your life. to fit in with the world around you. That's the only way any of this makes sense to me. It's like it's this cycle of repression on this like macro level that has sort of become. So like that I feel like that's why we get so much news whenever it's Republican lawmaker

caught doing this or wearing drag or like it's just like they're, yeah, they're just honestly. That's where, yeah, that's where they have to hide, you know. I do want to say what it is we're talking about for people who maybe don't know reasonable what we're talking about. So Byron Noam is. So I have to jump in here real quick. So I've been calling him Byron ever since this news dropped. It's Brian. He spells it weird.

No. Yeah. So he spells it Byron. No, he spells it Brian with an O and your eyes just assume it's Byron because no one spells it like that. told me Byron this whole time. I did that for an entire day. It's been Byron. All right.

Well, I'm going to try to. Thanks for the fact check because that really threw me. So, Brian Noem, who is Christy Noem's husband, but they're basically a, they've been separated. Yeah, she's with Corey.

The open secret for years, she's with Lewandowski. But he was, there are photos that were released of him in really tight clothing with balloons under the shirt to look like they were large fake breasts, and he was apparently messaging fetish models.

And that's it, basically. And this is a huge scandal, Daily Mail New York Post. Even though Kristyneum is not in the cabinet anymore, it's kind of like, hey, we can humiliate her now and try to do that. Also, juicy. Yeah. The left will jump on it too. like it's a story where they're like oh yeah we know we know this is gonna go fly in yeah it's like

needling her or it's just her sort of her like leaking for an like a public excuse to like oh i'm gonna divorce my husband and get with glory and all and like that you know that's why i was fired and all this sort of other stuff um but i it's that speculation i've no idea in addition to the stuff i've already said that it's sad about it is i don't know anything about byron and Brian outside of his wife and now this kink of his. I do not believe in kink shaming. I think that makes the world worse as long as you're not hurting people, et cetera. That's your own private business.

How embarrassing. How horrific to have that floated in front of the whole world. But he has been incredibly supportive of his wife. Of his Nazi wife. And backing her up, which, yeah, I mean, that's got to say something about who he is. what I mean specifically on the Lewandowski cheating stuff. So attempts to drag her name through the mud, he has sat beside her.

And Carrie, you know, helped her through those moments, at least from a PR standpoint. And then he just gets thrown under the bus. They clearly have had an arrangement. But yes, there is a definite case to be made that maybe she's leaking this so that she has justification to marry Corian Lundon. But the way they're reacting is the statement released is misnome is devastated.

The family was blindsided by this and they asked for privacy and prayers at this time as if it's not just something they can be like, like she could ignore this entirely. Yeah. And probably should know your business at this point. Our private life. Leave us alone. Like it's not. Yeah.

Or even do the thing where you're like, this is a left wing thing and they're kink shaming. I thought they were woke. Like there's many different ways they can go about this. And obviously, that's what gets mixed into this whole thing because people are like, well, this guy's helping the Nazi so we're not going to lose any sleep overdoing the thing that we probably wouldn't do to someone else. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff.

But like to release a statement as if he's dead. Oh, I know. Yeah. They're all, they're so confused. It's the lockjaw stuff now, right? Where it's just like you're not going to be pure enough. It's like, it's, it's, like, it's, It's a good example of everything we've been talking about where it's like it starts with like gay and trans people.

And then it's just going to slowly, it's like it's anybody. It's anybody who doesn't have whatever is considered to be normal. Yes, who deviates slightly. Yeah. It's just going to keep getting more and more oppressive until they are stopped. So it's like, why not stop them now? Like, you know, like it's just the walls are going to keep closing in. Yeah, they're always going to, I mean, that's so much of the movement is sort of that anxiety of not fitting in, the conformist anxiety that drives them to create those in groups and out groups and have all the rules of who the categories and stuff.

Right. And to your point before, Katie, it is, I think, deeply uninteresting what people want to do. Like, I think about this all the time, which is that, like, I grew up in, you know, I think I mentioned this. this show. I grew up in Massachusetts, extremely gay-friendly, lots of trans people. I've known lots of trans people. For the first half of my life, I just didn't care that much because it's not that interesting. And it's like, whatever. Like, I'll, I'll, I, like, it's interesting at first. Don't get me wrong. But after a while, you know enough trans people, you're like, well, that person's an asshole. I like that person. That person is, everyone. Everyone is the person.

Human beings, exactly. They're like everything else. And then once it became like this attack on them, it felt like this moment of like, God damn, everybody be trans. Fuck it. Like I love seeing trans people on my timeline now, taking selfies, being proud of who they are. Because it just, it kicked in of like, fuck this. So yeah.

let's move on to the other SCOTUS thing this week. They had oral arguments on Wednesday for the birthright citizenship case. It's a joke that they're even taking this seriously at all. There is no legitimate legal argument. The 14th Amendment's pretty clear. Google 14th Amendment read the thing. It's very clear. It just says it in plain language.

But at any rate, they had oral arguments about it. Trump was there the first time of presidents ever. We're gone to, I guess, glare, maybe sleep. We don't have video. It's not clear. Yeah, he apparently walked out at one point because he's so angry. Or he had to get to his little, like, public therapy session a little later that day. I feel like that's going to have the opposite effect.

Like, if, I don't know, that would piss me off if I was one of these Supreme Court judges. It's never happened before, exactly. Although, according to him, it's normal, and there's, like, a special chair for him that he didn't sit in or something. I don't know. But I want to quickly just go through some of the little banter. It does look like this, that it won't go through, that this will get voted down even. Like, they'll probably get Thomas and Alito on there, but seven to two on the side of, it says it in the thing.

I read it. I read it, yeah. Somewhat reasonable. Solicitor General John Sauer was put in the uncomfortable position of how. having to make up legal arguments or refer to legal arguments from complete jokers about this stuff. You know, Barrett and Gorsuch asked their questions. Roberts was like, well, the Constitution Gorsuch asked about Native Americans on tribal lands. How does that work? The Solicitor General did not seem prepared for Neil Gorsuch to ask the question that everyone, even who vaguely follows

the Supreme Court knows Neil Gorsuch is going to ask. He's got, yep. So there's optimism that this is going to get shot down, but the fact that it is now in discourse as like, well, we can have a conversation about birthright citizenship is itself a joke and could allow Congress to move stuff forward in the future. Yeah.

Oh yeah. It creates. It's created this. To actually do a constitutional amendment, but. Yeah, people are, like, I've seen, like the fact that this is a discourse and people are talking about it And now if it is ultimately just sort of struck down, then it is going to create probably a bigger push

from certain areas in the government to try to do something about it and make it an issue, right? Like it's not, it shouldn't be. And it is now suddenly because of this fucking guy. And now that opens it up to be like a topic of debate moving forward in all political arenas. which is not great. No, they just, they hate America.

And you're right. It's going to be people being like, yeah, why do we have to do this whole America thing? Like, it'll start being a conversation. I was just thinking, like, I was thinking earlier that it must be hard to be Trump's speechwriter, and then I realized, no, that's the easier job. That's probably an extremely easy job.

I don't even know if they're writing things anymore. Whereas the lawyers, I feel like they must spend their day, like having panic attacks going into the bathroom and splash water and then like their opponents coming in going like, are you okay man? Man, it's, oh, do you need a moment? We'll do a long break. He just declared war on Toledo.

We can't look at all right to do. I mean, I think about, I'm going to butcher this, the beginning of all the ICE stuff and the detentions that prosecutor, immigration lawyer, that's on behalf of the government, just having a whole breakdown. in front of the judge being like, I know, I know, I don't have

the documents, I'm doing my best, they tell me, I know, I know, and then quitting or whatever. Julie Kim, I think she's running for office now. Great. Or power to. I mean nothing about her except for that moment of relatability.

I mean, you did accept the job in the first place, but to your point, yeah, it's an impossible task. It's the first time like a document went viral. I guess the lower. Lumer Arby's thing and this like transcript of a court proceeding

went viral. We shouldn't be in the era where court proceeding transcripts are going viral. Honestly, I don't want to be a part of it. No, that's boring. I am tired of this timeline. It's supposed to be boring, yeah. Okay, well, we didn't.

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I thought you meant that there were two characters named Vic. I could just tell you the episode. Tuvok's and Neelix accidentally merge into Tuvix, a new person who sucks. And the whole thing is about we need to split them back up. But Tuvix is like, no, please, I have a right to exist. Please, I want to exist. creates a moral question in the show where it's like, we got to split them back up. Tuvix sucks. And he's like, please, I want to live. So you get to decide in the game if you keep two vicks or not.

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