Some More News - Streamin' More News: Iran War, Paxton Wins, Feds Investigate Hasan, And Movies!

Episode Date: May 27, 2026

Hi. This is the audio from our Tuesday night live show, where Katy, Cody, and Jonathan talked about the latest skirmishes in the Iran War, Ken Paxton's resounding defeat of John Cornyn in Texas, the Feds investigating Hasan Piker, and Megyn Kelly's realization that the Trump administration is more corrupt than she thought they'd be. (She expected a *little* corruption.)Here's the archived video version: https://youtube.com/live/rbRNKj3E7hcJoin our Patreon at Patreon.com/somemorenewsMerch: shop.somemorenews.comYouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/joinSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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If you see a piece of hair you want me to trim, let me know. I never learned my lesson. Are you chatting off in there? Hi, everybody. How's it going? Let's see who's here. We got, okay, the favorite frog.

We're yappers. Yes, you are. We love it. Who else we have? David F. 1-4, hey party people. Got to call out, Luke, Degner. Thank you very much.

Welcome. Oh, thank you so much. Two hats. John Cornyn is eating shit. Oh, we're going to talk about it. Oh my God. A little bit. That appears to be the case.

Don't want to jump the gun. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for all the hair love. That is what I needed. This is why I shot it did it out. Mr. B says you're a shining ray of light in a darkly stupid universe, Katie.

That's so nice. Look at that. If you got to know me better, I think you'd have a more nuanced opinion. Hey, now. Get rid of that nuance. Throw it out. Thank you, Luke Degner one more time. Thank you.

Warm Boy's Love, Warm Boy's Life. That's true. Buzz your head. Okay, who says that? I can't pronounce it. It's going too fast. As scupid da da dauna, shape, buzz your head? No, although I am curious what's under there.

Look, okay. Babies these days, a lot of times get helmets, right? Babies? Babies, sorry. Underneath, when we were growing up, I don't know that that many people wore helmets as babies to shape our head, but it's a new thing. Do you not? No. I guess your child didn't have to have that.

No, but I should. A lot of my friends, kids. Anyway, I think that they all, the result of that is they're going to have beautiful, perfectly shaped heads. And I don't know what's underneath this mop. How are you guys doing today? We had yesterday off. Yeah. I'm doing good.

I'm talking to both of you. I'm talking to you. Talking to me. How am I doing? Yeah. All right. Okay about us. I'm doing fine.

Things are, you know, life. I've spent a lot of time outside this. past weekend touching grass. We love it. Literally. We love to hear it. Yeah. It was nice. The weather was beautiful. Mm-hmm.

I think it's important. I agree. Would you guys, would you guys get up to this weekend? I recorded some music in the studio. So I was not touching grass. I was in a basement. You're touching different grass. I was in a big.

Yeah, I did. Only a little bit at one point. Yeah, I was in the basement of a door factory recording. Music. Thrilling. I wrote next week's ads. Troubleshooted the thumbnail for this stream and spent time with my family and went outside and whatnot.

Nice. That's fantastic. Yeah. Gotta do those things occasionally. Occasionally. I hope every day spending time with a family. Yeah. How did chat do outside?

Yeah. Did you guys touch grass? We're here for weed jokes. Yes, we are. Yeah. we'll keep talking while you respond, so don't think we're ignoring you. The news?

Oh, yeah, forget that. Forget that stuff. Let's give them a broad overview of some of our topics today. You want me to just run through? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's just give them a... Like normal shows, like shows. Like normal shows do.

And then we will get to it. Well, we're going to talk about the current state of the war in Iran. There was maybe a deal. Now there's maybe not a deal, probably not a deal, definitely a deal, et cetera. Ice. We kind of haven't been talking a lot about ice lately. They've been going under the radar, but they're still out there doing what they do. Pepper spray to U.S. Senator over the last few days. There's that. We've got feds maybe, I think, subpoenaing Hassan because of the Cuba trip. We've got a new Trump administration rule where immigrants have to be in their native country to apply for a green card. upsetting, really upsetting. Trump might be dying health-wise, and also someone might have tried to kill him again this weekend.

Nobody cares. That's the whole news. Who cares? Literally. That shit pops up now and I go, okay. Sure. We're going to discuss the film 12 Monkeys. Not really, but thank you Lobster 2042.

I would. We can abandon the news and talk about some point monkey. I haven't seen it in so long. It's a good one. I know. I'll add it to my list. I watched true romance last night for the first time in a long time. Some problematic areas.

But also, great film. Some good stuff in there. Good stuff. Problematic scenes where you go, who, okay. Also, I romanticized their love story a lot when I first saw it. And now I think those two are wild. Those are two wild people to be rooting for. But I do.

Root for those two crazy. Did they make it? Did they make it? Is it good? I'm not going to spoil it. I know. Wait, have you not seen true romance? It's been a while. No, I've seen it.

It's been a while. I was not wanting you to tell the chat what happens at the end of the movie. Yeah, we're going to bring up a lot of movies on the chat, but we promise not to spoil any of them. So 12 monkeys, not going to say it. Project Hill Marius over the weekend. We're not going to talk about spoilers stuff with that. I saw the main word Grove view on a computer. You bought it on my mom.

My Amazon Prime account. My name was right on the account, said so right there. It's not a problem. But I got the receipt for Project Hail Mary. We'll look into that. But shout out our friend, Molana, Vine Drew, who is in Project Hail Mary. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Friend of the show. Friend of the show. Friend of our hearts. I guess we should start with talking about deal or no deal. Movies. Oh. Iran. on.

Well, yeah. We should start with that, but it feels frustrating to just keep treading our wheels, but here we go. We can tread them. Treading our wheels, that's not true. The vans of it all. We're going to talk about vans a little bit. Talk about vans.

We got some clips lined up. We got a lot that we hope to get through in the next hour and change. So I'll recap the deal. A few days ago when we started thinking, what are we going to talk about? It's like, oh, maybe we'll have a deal. Because Trump posted on the website he owned. He's never done that before. No.

This is his first post ever on the website he owns, saying a deal had been largely negotiated. And then it came out that the deal was largely a capitulation to everything that Iran would want, which makes sense. That's the only way they're going to give Trump what he wants, which is to get out of here. Like out of here or like out of the situation. Yeah. Just get the hell out of here. Just drive right now. He doesn't know.

It's bad. It's definitely to me that anybody could still think that the U.S. is in any way, shape, or form winning this. You know, it's wild cognitive dissonance. I think we won. You think we won? Yeah. And then... I think there was a way to win, and we won.

Okay. A bunch of the neocons and people like Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz were like, if this was the deal, what was the point? This can't be the deal. President Trump is going to get us a better deal. than that, and then it looked like Trump was going to back away because he doesn't want his allies mad at him, the warmongers and such. And then he said, well, a deal is going to require all the Gulf countries to join the Abraham Accords, which would mean that Saudi Arabia and all these other Gulf countries have to recognize Israel and normalize relations with them. And they were like,

huh, please leave us out of this? And then the U.S. started firing on Iran again, targeted strikes on missile sites in southern Iran saying Iran was laying mines and so this was defensive strikes but now Iran is threatening retaliation and also Israel is just taking the opportunity to increase their attacks in Lebanon again I guess thinking if something is going to wrap up soon we might as well kill as many people in Lebanon as we can or make sure that things don't wrap up soon. I mean, I don't think we're writing. I mean, you know, made it very clear like, no, this is, we're not done.

We're not done. I believe. And paraphrasing, but that is what he said like two days ago. Every time I hear the, the suggestion that we're close to a deal, I just perk up. And like, yes, can't wait for that deal. Yeah. I fully believe this news. No, I look at the stock market.

I wonder what kind of manipulation is happening. But then you just look at the obvious markers around you and scratch your head and say, it doesn't seem like these are two people or two entities operating under the assumption that we're close to a deal. I mean, have we even have any in-person talks in months? No. Since Vance? I mean, Whitkoff and Kushner, Whitkoff has been there, Wheeling and Dealing. There have been things in Oman.

certainly not with Trump, certainly not. Official, yeah. Anyway, sorry folks. If you were hoping that this was it, it does not seem to be it. No deal yet. So no deal or no deal? I mean, like, eventually he's going to have to give them what they want.

He could start bombing them again and say, oh, we're going to really like pound them this time. to get all of those missile sites and battleships that are gone. Right. Yeah, that we already did, but did not. But they've made it pretty clear, the IRGC, the people in charge that they're not backing down and they can handle a lot more than we can. So, you know, I guess it's just a matter of Iran believing, oh, gas prices will get high

enough to a point where they're going to march on the White House and make him give us what we want. So that's where we are with that. That's where we are with that. He signed the Abraham Accords. Anyway. Well, you know. So real quick, we don't have to spend much time on this, but Ken Paxton, AP has called it,

New York Times has called it, Paxton beat Cornyn and will be the candidate going up against James Tala Rico. Trump says this guy and they go this guy, you know? Usually, sometimes. It depends. But these days it does seem like they're like, all right, this guy, let's do it. Yeah, I'm going to allow just a little bit of negativity to my life right now and say I'm disappointed.

Not that I'm. I'm disappointed in the fact that his endorsement still carries that weight. And I know I know that we should expect that, especially. this point in time. But also he's so unpopular. He's so fucked. And it's so bad that it just continues to befuddle me. Yeah.

But, you know, I mean, Pax is just worse than Cornyn in a lot of ways. And we'll see how that pans out. I don't know. He's got a lot of scandals, a lot of fraud circling around that guy. Whereas Cornyn is more just a servile a little worm who tried to ingratiate himself with the Trump

but it didn't work. Right. So I don't know. Yeah, like Republicans just have a tendency to vote Republican, and they always come home when they're asked to. Ooh, man, Lexon really, oh, God. Cornyn, you really didn't do it. Like, in Travis County, listen, I'm no Cornackie here,

but I would think in places like Austin, Cornyn would really have needed to run up the score here, and he's winning by 8 in Travis County and by 1.4% in Dallas County, and that just wasn't going to cut it here. No Cornacchi. You're not a Corniniac either. I mean, you were kind of doing double duty with that one.

Cornineaki. Oh, man. I'm a Paxton. I'm a Bill Paxton. Oh. The thrill Paxton area. Whatever. So it's either this Paxton, this criminal.

Like he's just a criminal. Or the guy who might have been a vegan at one point. A vegan. Did you hear Trump call him a vegan a bunch of times? And then the next week, someone told him it's vegan. You could just say vegan. I haven't heard that. But it is one of my favorite things when, specifically, I've only ever seen it happen

with an old person saying, yeah, you're one of them vegans? Vegan, right? It's a vegan, nope. In fairness, it's not vegetables. Like, I get the instinct there. But it means he's never met anyone. A vegian? I like that better than...

A veggian. Even if you're like going off of vegetables, you wouldn't be vegan. How are you doing, Trump? Just vegin. Just vegian. I don't know. That's a little vegan.

Like Brad Pitt and true romance. Vegean, sorry. It was a callback to the movie I watched last night. Just keep making callbacks to the movies. Maybe people have seen. Maybe not. Who hasn't seen true romance? I assume lots of people.

A lot of people here, I'm sure. I don't. There will be a lot of people. couple seeds that you go, whoof, that's offensive, but it is a good movie. I know, it's not, it's not trying to not be offensive.

It's going, it goes a little, I don't know, Tarantino, 93. Yeah, he wrote it. Exactly. Gary Oldman, being a little very offensive. It's fine.

Oh, go old. Can't be more, can't be more offensive than his character, Jackson Lamb and the Apple TV show Slow Horses, which everyone should. I won't spoil it, but very good.

Should I watch that? Yeah, it's a British spy show with Gary Old playing like a disgusting old creep spy, slow horses. Slow horses. Seven slow horses. It's fantastic.

I haven't read the book series. It's based on a book series. Twelve monkeys, seven slow horses. Write all this stuff down, everyone. I can just list movies that people may or may not have seen. Something's being talked about online these days. The Brady Bunch movie. And a very Brady sequel for some reason.

Maybe we'll talk about that. All right. I think we're just. one person who's like, Christine Taylor's really good as Marsha Brady. And then everyone's like, finally. Yeah.

I've been saving these clips forever. The jump in eight heads in a duffel bag is someone's bringing up in the chat. That is a movie. Smokin Aces. What a, no, I think of Suicide Kings. The other one.

Smokin Aces is a movie as well. Marsha, Marcia, Marcia. Yeah. Seven Brides for Seven Brothers. Shout up to that one. Do people like that musical movie? I don't know.

Some people do. Some people like everything. Some people like everything. Here, let me pull up the rotten tomatoes here. Everyone wait. Everyone wait. Everyone wait for that. We'll get to the news, we promise.

Cornyn, Paxton. Yeah, I guess it's to be expected. This is the primary. I'm disappointed, but not really caring that much because either way I didn't want either of them. Yes, either. You know, in terms of, like, getting that blue Texas, which is happening this year. Finally. It's going to happen.

the year, you know, they're positives and negatives for each of them. Maybe it'll happen, but then we'll, like, lose Maine. I know people have a lot of thoughts about that, but just winning Texas would feel like a huge victory, and it feels like if Texas goes below a bunch of other, then we'll get that. Oh, yeah, if we can get that. It's all the, you know. A few others. Blue all the way down.

Should we talk about ice? Yeah, we should. We were having so much fine. No, it's fine. We should talk. about ice. We're talking about like the Brady Bonds. Because horrific things have been happening and it's not getting enough attention, obviously.

It is befuddling how little information does get out or different stories gain traction. It's not befuddling. Well, you know, the cycle is that, right? And that's part of the thing is you flood the zone and then you fire, you know, lockjaw. and then people start to not think about it as much, but it's still going on, and they know that they kind of need to keep a lower profile, but that doesn't mean they're stopping any of this stuff.

So Jonathan, give us some updates. Yeah. Dance monkey. Lots of ice stuff going on. Here we go. Yeah, you can see ice pepper sprayed, New Jersey, Senator Andy Kim, during a protest outside Delaney Hall in Newark.

Migrants or detainees in there are on a hunger strike, so many protesters have shown up to support them. Do you know how long? I'm putting you on the spot. Do you happen to know how long the hunger strike has been going on? I can find out by clicking this. That's a lot of multitasking. Click and scroll.

Several days. I don't know. Several days. I don't know. Yeah. So the governor of New Jersey, Mikey Sherrill also showed up. Was not allowed entry.

Was not pepper sprayed, but was not allowed into the facility. But this has been going on for days now. They are also, there are more than 2,000 DHS agents in Memphis. They've been conducting major operations there for months and are apparently doing a pretty good job, keeping it quiet and keeping videos off social media.

And so some of those same stories that were big news last year and kind of fell by the wayside after what happened in Minneapolis, as the news cycle tends to move on. In Connecticut, a father was dropping off his 16-year-old daughter at a school bus stop when he was grabbed by agents and the child left. You know, like those kinds of things are still happening. They're successfully keeping it under the radar. And also Stephen Miller has not been as front and center pushing some of this Nazi stuff as much as he was a year ago.

Because he knows that he's very deeply unlikable. Do they realize? Yeah, maybe they realize he's odious and off-putting. But also like this kind of thing, like the pepper spraying of the senator, it plays really well for Republicans. They kind of like it, which is also horrible. A certain percentage of them. The ones that they care about. Yeah.

They, you know, they. And maybe doesn't play as badly as I would hope with others. This is horrific. There are so many atrocities happening. I mean, in Delaney, there are numerous accounts of how poorly they're being treated, fed, denied access to medical care. You know, pregnant women not getting the treatment that they need. and as we've established it's really hard to get these stories lately for some reason and what it takes is a freaking senator getting pepper sprayed for it to even break through

marginally and it's overwhelming it's it's to to wrap your mind around how much is happening all the time all over this country that we are not privy to and just feeling powerless in how to protect people because that is what he was doing. He was there by his own account trying to intercede, trying to, you know, de-escalate things. And I think he got shot with something too. I might be making that up other than the pepper spray. said that no one was hit with pepper balls, even though pepper balls were fired, probably a lie. I mean, they have the same script that comes out. Like, they were obstructing law enforcement, and they ignored several orders to disperse, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah, I mean, it's, I think they want all the money that's coming to them via funding to do all their stuff. And I think they just wish they lived before the time when people could pull out their phones and film them. if they are still out there, thousands of them left to their own devices and largely unaccountable, it's only a matter of time before they kill another person visibly on camera. We don't know how many migrants have died in detention.

So they're killing people ongoing, but another visible murder is probably inevitable. All the tactics that they're using are terrifying and it sounds like these protesters are getting harassed, stalked, afraid to leave their homes, asking themselves if they should take that risk and still being brave enough to show up. It's a very big deal and it's, yeah.

Yeah, and as the chat is pointing out, pepperballs don't need to hit a person to be deployed. That's not. Right. I know. And then they're, you know, they're still doing it. But that's exactly the squirmy thing that they're, person.

Yeah. Well, first off, you don't know, but that's not even the point. How would you know if it did or did not hit a specific person? And then this story you can see on screen that there are immigration activists and organizers of ICE patrols who had their homes raided and are intimidated by federal agents. So, you know, the reason it doesn't get reported as much is because it's the same thing, right? It's par for the course. and the media largely needs them to heighten it, right?

Take things to the next level and just the level that we're at being horrifying enough. It has to go in phases and so maybe when the war ends, if it ever ends, people will have an appetite to go back to that. That's kind of like the whole distraction conversation we're always having. Like he didn't start the war to distract from anything. He just wanted to do the war, but it also serves the purpose of taking attention. away from whether it's Epstein or the horrible things government agents are doing because he told them to do it.

He largely gets off the hook and his poll numbers on immigration come back, you know, all that stuff. Not that his poll numbers are going back up. They're bad. People don't like him. Oh, in the toilet. Economy wise, all kinds of stuff wise. Oh, yeah, economy wise, we're getting into the 20s type thing. Inflation. Why, I think so good. People don't like it.

People, you know, obviously we wish people hated some of the evil murder stuff as much as they hate paying a lot money for gas and for food but that's if that's what it takes you know that's what it takes well that's that is always the first thing to break through and maybe it's the only thing to break through for some people old greece sent 20 some more news gift memberships that's amazing thank you so much that's wild thank you and if there's other people to thank right now i don't know how to do it i don't know how to do it and i apologize you know what i'll just say names I'll just keep saying names.

Say some names. Matt Willoughby. Luwak Copaca, 1633. Ella 42. The Lion Roars 1337. Can we just talk about the 1995 movie, the Brady Bunch movie? What do you want to talk about?

Just kidding. I'm just pointing out how old we are. But it is having a moment on Twitter. It is. Because it's good. It's funny. Is it? Okay.

Yeah. I liked it. But I liked the originals. Oh, the original show? Yeah. The Brady Bunch? The originals. I did, I did.

I watched it. Wait, did you like the originals, the spinoff to the vampire diaries? No, I never seen it. The originals. The originals, that's Cody's domain. It was called the originals. While we're talking about ICE and immigration stuff, could we also talk about the new green card process that they want to? Perfect.

In force. And then we'll play some fun clips and make fun of people. Yeah. We will. This is an incredibly disturbing development that I was afraid of, but didn't, for a little period of time, I didn't think that he had the juice to be able to try to push something like this through. What he wants to do is require any immigrants who are eligible in applying for green cards

to stay in their native countries while they apply, which impacts hundreds of thousands of people who are, you know, law-abiding people going about their business. They have spouses who may be American citizens. They have kids who may be American citizens. They're applying for green card status, and they're supposed to go back to wherever while their family is here, while they wait for a green card.

It's just to be cruel and to try and encourage people not to seek it out. So every time you hear people say, well, we want immigrants to come here and they just have to do it the right way, here's what we're doing to people who are doing it the right way and going through the channels and all that. It's constantly making the right way harder and harder and whittling away the basic concept of having a right way. That's what they're ultimately doing. That's what they always say. Stephen Miller talks about it. All the little right wing freaks are always talking.

about like well no ultimately the goal is to not have any immigration unless it's 10,000 more South Africans white South Africans oh well sure obviously that's okay for some reason we don't need to get into why surely there's no

reason behind that but like that is what that is what they want to do which is why they constantly sort of chip away at the process and you know wait for people at like their for their court dates and stuff. Like they stop people who are doing it the right way

and they're making the right way even harder and making people leave to do the right way, which pretty clearly indicates that they're just going to say no, they're making it impossible. They are totally going to, Katie alluded to this story that Trump is raising the refugee ceiling by 10,000 people specifically to bring in more white South Africans.

And since they already have a racist conspiracy theory about Democrats and bringing in migrants to vote for them, they are probably going to fast track the white South African citizenship to try and say like, well, we're going to get our voters. They're doing it. You guys can come, white South Africans,

you guys are going to come here and move to Michigan. We'll settle you in Michigan, Wisconsin. You know, I don't have evidence that they're doing that yet, but they always do what they accuse the other side of doing. 100%. Literally any topic, any piece of policy, anything, Any one of their complaints, any one of their conspiracy theories, it's all just like, well, I assume they're doing this. And we're going to do it worse, I guess, and more obviously, and at all, because most of them are based on nothing anyway.

It's very, very transparent what they're doing. But then if you were to point that out, they'd look, well, yeah, you do it too. So you don't believe in anything, which we know. stuck on the logistics of how you can literally get, like people that own homes are employed, have jobs, have lived here for 10 years, or somewhere in the process of getting their green card or happen for X, Y, Z reasons, whatever it is, establish people that are paying taxes that are, I mean, I don't even want to make justifications by how, like, put these types of people on a pedestal in any way, because everybody that's coming here and trying to, you know,

to be an American, I welcome you and I want you here. But I'm just saying there's no, the model people that they would pretend to say that they want, they're going to, to what, homes they don't have, places while their families are here. It's over, I don't even, logistically, how do you do that? I just, just, stop. They don't get it. They don't get it. Miserable people who hate everyone.

Yeah. They want to make it harder for everybody. They want to make things worse and they want to be in power forever. that's their whole fucking viewpoint. Yeah, I mean, that's the theme of this show and every show. Every show that discusses what's going on, honestly. Like, that is what their, that's their whole project. Like, oh, we wrote an 8,000 page script about this policy and how bad it is.

And in summation, these are miserable people who hate life, hate themselves, hate everyone else, and want to make life worse. Want to make it worse, but remain in power while doing that. Yeah. That's it. I'm reading some super chats here. SSCR racing, thank you, says a growing number of South Africans living abroad are choosing to return home due to factors like lower living costs.

Many are returning not out of necessity, but as part of a deliberate choice. I can imagine the refugees getting here and saying gas is how much. What are you people talking about? That's interesting. Yes, it's too much. Yeah. Gas is expensive these days. You need to buy my electric vehicle.

I'm running out of fuel. I'm running out of fuel so I can blow up my rockets. All right. They say it blew up. That's your Katie impression? Okay, boys. That's cool it. That's my version of being exacerbated by the hilarious bit.

Dueling Elon voices. Should we watch a clip and make fun of someone before we get depressing again? Yeah. Yeah. I do want to talk about. Who's been stupid today or recently that we can watch? Yeah, let's do a fun little who's been dummy. We can do a Megan before we.

But I do want to talk about the Hassan. I'm sure it will. Sapina or not subpoena. Sure. I'm just teasing that. I think. It's in the title probably. Yeah, it is.

All right. So Cody, would you rather talk about her talking about Trump being, a cheater or not I think we should do both because they're both incredible and fascinating. We can get to one later whatever. Let's start with the corruption I guess because the other one is more is like sadder

I think about like how she's sort of like let him be an abusive piece of shit and like didn't care about it until now. But this is a nice coda to last week's episode. Oh yeah. Last week's SMN episode if you didn't see it is about a bunch of mag of people who are suddenly like, oh, how dare, you know, Tucker and Meg and Kelly and the like. So here she is on the Hodge Twins podcast. Talk about some Trump.

I have to be honest. I didn't expect the corruption to be quite as, you know, widespread as it's been. And like the self-dealing and the lining of his and his family's pockets. Like, that's been a little shocking. Talking billions of dollars. And I just didn't expect Trump to be so disrespectful of his base. Oh, wow. Yeah.

You did. I expect him to be disrespectful to. everybody else. But not to his base. Not to me. Yeah, I expect him to be shitty to the 75, 80% of other Americans. He's supposed to be shitty to 75% to 80%

of America, but not his base. I had is shocking. What a little worm. Like, it's unbelievable. I expected him to do a lot of corruption, but like a six out of 10 on the corruption scale. Not quite as bad as all the corruption. Not quite as much.

I expected him to try and keep it on the down low a little bit instead of just suing himself and taking the money. I wanted him to do bad things, but the bad things I wanted him to do, not this. And like the self-dealing, he's never done that before. And I couldn't imagine a family associated with the administration getting so rich off of the administration. Like, it's shocking how much this particular family is doing that. and let me quickly Google who's been president before this yeah okay how much did he make oh no it's so stupid like what a little

fraud ploy she I know that this ultimately like Megan Kelly will find her audience and have people that respect her fine I guess but it's really hard to wrap your mind around how you can have any sort of legitimacy if you're saying a

sentence like this when presented with everything that we've all seen for years and years and years and years. And her own history with this man, you have no conscience, no shame. No shame. No, of course not. There's another clip we'll watch

a little later, which I do think it's a little more depressing in that context, especially in her specific dynamic in relationship with him. The contempt There's another Stephen Miller clip maybe we'll watch a little later, too. The contempt these people have for who they're talking to is like it's so, it's so absurd and so clearly on display. What are you talking about, Megan? What was he impeached for?

Like, what do you talk? Like, the self-dealing? He tried to do, he tried to, like, buy votes for, like, what do you? We don't need, we all know. I don't need to get into this. Because sometimes when I think back at Trump, one, some of the stuff gets jumbled and I have to remind myself. that he didn't get impeach for the Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia hoax. He could have been, but he wasn't.

And then they were like, well, we'll do this Ukraine quid pro quo corruption phone call. Hey, if you investigate my political opponent, I'll do stuff for you. Blatent corruption, everyone could see it. They impeached him for it. And then the second one they had to after January. So they did a quick impeachment. But you forget, like, the Ukraine thing is like kind of cerebral. and most people today, not just Republicans,

I feel like a lot of Democrats would have a hard time re-detailing exactly what happened there. And now it's just like, this is very easy. Oh, he sued himself and then is taking the money and giving it to the criminal. Yeah, literally. Like, yeah. Settle in.

Like the Qataris wanted to give him this big jet, and he said, yes, I'll take the jet. The UAE put a bunch of money into the crypto company he owned. and then he gave him a bunch of micro the semiconductor chips. Left and right. He is making trades every day based on his fucking announcements that he makes. The corruption is every day everywhere. What's the point of even listing it?

Well, we get started on his kids, his kids with their drone company, with their relationships, with all the different countries and the wars. I, yeah. I know. What about Hunter Biden? Sorry. Well, you say that it's easy to explain these things now.

But I would posit that there's a really, there's an example of how that's actually not true at all. We don't need to show the clips, but Glenn Greenwald did us surrounded. And like, it is impossible to explain how Trump is so fucking corrupt to anyone who is just, they're just not interested in it. They can't process it. They don't want to absorb any of the words. And they just can't face it. And it's an impossible task. His claim is like the Trump administration is more corrupt than the Biden administration.

And he's like, oh, I'll concede that the Biden administration was corrupt without giving any like specific. But he's like, but look at the thing. And they're like, well, like there's this one guy who's wearing a MAGA cap. And he's like, Trump's like he doesn't take a salary. He's lost everything. I cannot with that. And then a second later, Glenn Greenwald's like, well, he's $3 billion. dollars richer since he became president again and the guy's like are you jealous?

Are you jealous? And everyone clapped. Everyone clapped when he said are you jealous as if that's a good point. Absurd. Are you jealous that he got so rich and lost everything at the same time? I am very smart. You, um, thank you for for recapping that. Sorry. In our dock prepping for today, I went, nope and didn't watch. Yeah, no. I put, I was like, Possible. Len Greenwald thing and everyone was like, veto. No, not watching surrounding clips. It is wild. I maintain that there are people that are being chipped away. I maintain that.

I believe that there are some people being chipped away. Remember the guy that called in a few weeks ago. I do. Remember. Remember. Focus on that. But this is, it is wild. It's just they can't.

Those are the cult members, though. And this is not me. It's so wild to wrap your mind around. around in how you get through to people. And I guess you just can't. The spell has to get broken at a certain point for some of these people. But it is. There's no communicating.

There's no. Like him talking about the ballroom. Just like, oh, it's a ballroom. Okay. But like he said he had private funding $400,000 for this ballroom. And then he said, actually, it's a billion of your dollars. And they just don't care. Ah.

Also, Jonathan, what is he added to our debt? Has that been confirmed? I mean, who cares? I mean, a lot. I know, but it's just, but yeah. The guy, I felt like it was one of you guys that brought it up recently. It just, he's bad at everything he touches. He's doing a bad job.

He's doing a bad job. He's doing a good job at stealing. He's bad. He's bad. Before we move on, well, one, I want to. thank Professor Harmless and they asked Microsoft Executive just said

AI costs more than humans. Is the bubble popped yet? Well, it's not popped yet. It's strange. It's strange. The S&P 500 hit a new high today because everything's great. Everything's fake, yeah, yeah. It's happening soon, but thank you very much.

And then I want to and I want to thank at Tony PRN. Thank you very much. It says here's money for the S&N ballroom and it's going to take a lot more than that. But no, thank you very much. Oh, thank you so much.

And Paul, we meet. Oh, my gosh. All of you guys are so generous. Everyone is so nice and generous and we have a fantastic audience that is always here. And I hope they stick around because we should do a really quick ad read. Oh, right. Shoot. Let me pull something up.

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I know. You guys should know that, though. But, yeah, just I don't know when I should be able to start. Whatever you want. Whatever I want. Do you need to move the mic or whatever? I don't know. Okay.

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Got to have one. My favorite thing to do is to not read them until it's time. Yeah, we can't read them. But I did read through this one. Well, sometimes I remember that and I was like, oh, there's some weird stuff you have to pronounce in this one. And oh, you guys know there's a Warbo bit in this one, right? Thank you to the following people. Smap-D. Flafferman.

Awesome. I said that name. Classic book, A-S-M-R. Sheared douchebaggery. It was all over now. The only chance now I felt was the possibility. that we'd gone to such excess that nobody in a position to bring the hammer down on us could possibly believe it.

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Hi, welcome. We're balanced. That's it. All right, now we can get back to the news if you want. Let's get back to the news. Shall we talk about this bullshit? shit. Yeah, they're trying to intimidate some people. Yeah, and I think it's important to talk about this because it's so clearly what's going on is the attempt at intimidation or it feels like

getting into it. It's terrifying, actually, to think about what they're trying to do and frame this as, you know, terrorists, whatever the funding is for all the political groups and whatnot. That's the main goal here. But I, correct me if I'm wrong. chat, maybe this has changed today, but as of a few hours ago or this morning, it seems that they didn't actually get subpoenaed yet. I saw Ryan Grimm on Breaking Points discussing this because he was also on that trip as a journalist and the trip to Cuba. The whole thing about them staying in the wrong hotel is bullshit.

They stayed literally in the right hotel that was a social media viral, like bullshit. that got spun out of control, and they did everything right to be there. So all of this is just wild. But it seems, according to Ryan Grimm, that they did not actually get subpoenaed in this is false. I'm sorry, but fake news. Reported by Fox says something that was going to happen, or they just... But they haven't taken it down yet. And so, again, unless that has changed and anybody wants to correct me...

I'm looking around for this. So real quick, if you don't know what we're talking about and you're listening to it tomorrow. We're talking about Hassan Piker and several other people who went to Cuba on a humanitarian mission are being investigated by the federal government and have been ostensibly subpoenaed for information about it. Chat's backing me up. Yeah, the allegation. Okay, no, I believe you. I just haven't seen it yet.

I'm looking for it. Okay, so drop-site news is, I got it right here, I'm going to read it. Drop-site news is Ryan Grimm spoke directly to political streamer, Hassan Piker, and Code Pink's Medea, both of whom said they have not been subpoenaed, contradicting a recent Fox News report. But the report's still up. The reports are all still up. Oh, they don't care.

I mean, the actual subpoena and the actual investigation or any charges, those don't matter because those are all bullshit and will go away. What this about is getting those news stories out there and the intimidation that comes with it. I don't think, like, knowing who is, I don't think he's going to be particularly intimidated. But, like, they're still trying to do their full court press on this, and they're still trying to, like, act as if they have this mandate to speak for real America, push all dissenters back. But it's so funny that the, the reporters,

is that they were going after them for staying in that hotel, because as you said, Katie, they were not staying in a hotel that's been sanctioned. Not, yes, but you know who was staying. Wait, wait, wait, I want to bet. I want to bet on Polly Market, but who this is going to be. Okay, hold on, hold on. Well, what it is, you're not allowed to stay in a hotel that's, like, connected to the Cuban government because it's, like, sanctioned and we're boycotting them and all that.

But you're allowed to go through Mexico and stay at another hotel. So who do you think actually stayed at the forbidden hotel? Cody? I'm going to bet on my favorite polymarket shill, Nick Shirley, am I right? Yes, we won the millions of dollars to Cody Johns. Nick Shirley stayed there and filmed a video from there saying here I am. It is wild.

We know everything's stupid. I have a few thoughts. It is scary. So they keep trying to do these very politically motivated prosecutions. of people, you know, putting a big target on them and it's not working out so far. But I'm still waiting for it, for them to get their way on one of these things.

I'm terrified of it and what that means and the precedence it sets. And, um... Oh yeah. I mean, they keep going after their, like, like, Komi, uh, Adam Schiff, Hassan, like, whatever. I would suggest...

They're just trying to figure out what works. Hassan, I don't, all of you guys, I would suggest, Just maybe going after that slush fund money for political persecution. I know that Will Stansel applied. I mean, honestly, they should. Did he probably? He did.

Yeah, he's applying to get the slush fund money because he was definitely harassed in Minneapolis for being a ice patrol and doing what he was doing. Give Will Stancel one billion dollars. Yeah, they're like, well, the thing's illegal, but he was the only person who signed up. The three percenters guys couldn't figure out how to work the website. site that they couldn't, they were screwing up the January 6ers, the oath keepers, they're like, how do you use the shit? I can't, yeah, this is, this is a thing too goddamn forever.

I don't trust the government to have my information. You want my social security number, you son of a bit. Anyway, no, it's, of course, completely ridiculous, and it just gives, like, he now can, like, stream about it, and people are like, oh, I wonder what Hassan's going to say about it, and, of course, the viewership's doing well. He was, he had a Stavi on today.

They were making fun of it. They were having a, good old time. Thank you anime sidekick gal. I was going to say that. Thank you. I'm sorry, I'm just talking. No, I'm just kidding. It's a very nice message

from anime sidekick gal. We appreciate it. I don't have the article in front of me. That's too difficult. It's hard. Too many tabs, too many things. Oh, thank you, Anna Sikik gal. I didn't read the message until now. Jonathan, you were right. Yeah, it was very sweet. Like people say nice things to us and it makes us feel good.

Yeah, it does. They do when it does. I need to find that comment. What now? Trump is dying. Trump is dying. We talk about the Vance thing, I don't know. Uber.

Yeah, Vance thing. Uber thing. I want to talk about all these things. I want to talk about all these things because was a comment, the AI bubble, is it or isn't it? We can talk about that. Let's talk about Vance. Yes. Let's talk about Vance, shall we?

Don't. Let's talk about Vance, shall we? Yeah, you got to change it. No one says baby after Vance. So this is this. is a Daily Mail. So, I don't know. Our new journalistic heroes, the Daily Mail.

But someone's putting it out there. I wonder who. Sorry, keep going. That Vance, oh, it's now blocked Daily Mail Plus. Get the, this was not a Daily Mail Plus yesterday. But the reporting from this article. Imagine if you were subscribed to Daily Mail Plus. It's like, oh, yeah.

Yes, we'll log you in, Jonathan. Thank you for coming back for the 18th time today. for your steadfast support of the Daily Mail. I wasn't looking at any of this. So, you're chatting off in there. We're reporting that J.D. Vance is thinking about not running for president in 2028, which I don't know if I've called it.

I've suggested a couple times that it's probably not the best idea to run now because you'll have a way better chance of getting elected president if you're a Republican in 2032. Obviously can't project anything this far into the future. but either he or someone in his orbit is putting it out there like, hey, what if I didn't run for president? Because anyone connected to this administration is toxic as hell. Yeah. I do agree generally, but it feels like that's, it's like now or never for him. He's the vice president.

Unless they have like a really like public at like break where he's like, oh, you, it turns out you are America's Hitler. Like all that stuff, you know. I was right the first time. I take back and I'm taking back. Whoopsie. Like, you know, unless they're going to hang him too. But it just seems like you can't wait four years and be like, uh, I'm J.T. Vance. And I'm another guy who wants to run for, like, it's just.

Is there any part of you guys that go, because he's not going to leave office? Well, so that's the other thing. And I mean, it's, it's, uh, because he's not going to leave office. Or it's just like, yeah, this is the kind of story that you leak. now so that you can run in 2028 to let people know I was so against the stuff that was going on. I was so

against it that I wasn't going to run for president in 20208 but it's important to keep the country together and to like fight for America first or whatever the fuck he's going to say. It just seems like a move to me. Yeah. Even though you're right Jonathan that like 2028 is

going to be tough. I'm not saying impossible. I'm not like so optimistic that it can't happen. But he's like the most tied to it. Yes. And either this is like, I need to distance myself now because I know that I have to do it in 2008 or it's just like, yeah, he's going to be around. So I'm going to be, I'm not running for president in 2020.

Because I'm going to be the vice president in 2029 to my new father, Donald Trump, you know. If there wasn't a very strong likelihood of Trump dying and Vance becoming president and like having that institutional advantage where he gets to say, okay, we're stopping all this stuff everyone doesn't like and things are going to get better. That's what he has to be crossing his fingers. That happens. Because otherwise, the only other option would be for him to like resign, make a big show of how, and then just be a big podcaster yelling about it for a year. And this is not who we are. And then he's running as the, I took a stand and I, hey, you might not agree. You might not like me. But I really stood up for what I believed in. It took a chance and all that stuff. But that's a

huge risk because then if you leave, you're not the vice president anymore. So when Trump died. you don't become the president so he kind of has to stay in there. Or it goes for a third term, right? Like, it's just like, there's so many scenarios where it's like, okay, but then you left and you're done because otherwise he has to be a podcaster

for four years and then run for president, which I know obviously he wants to do that for the rest of his life and that's all he wants. But if you want to be the president, you're going to just podcast for four years. I mean, I do this right now, and I'm older than J.T. Vance and the prospect of doing this the rest of my life.

I mean, maybe this won't exist in 40 years. Wait a second. Will we all be doing this in 30? The rest of our lives? Listen, I'm not saying, I don't think the platform might not be. This is fun, but right, like, what happens? We're all like, we're all going to be being shuttled into people's brain cubes in 15 years. And I'll be there.

I'll be there. Shuttle me into your brain. Well, you have 30 minutes to move your brain cube. Yeah, no, I think J.D. Vance has a couple. of bad options and I feel like he can't give up being the vice president that gives him his best shot to be the president exactly so he just has to eat shit

but he's got to leak things but and then leak this stuff to be like so see I was actually like really privately against the bad stuff but whether the writing is all it's probably both mixture of both distance myself from this

specific campaign but also maybe he sticks around just put it out there maybe Trump's leaking it because he doesn't like all the talk of who's going to be the guy. Who's the next guy? Exactly. He hates that stuff. Who's that? Who's that? He's the guy. The Daily Mail, I know. I feel like he knows too many people. He can just text

Maggie H. They're all on speed down. They're calling him every day. Hey, Mr. President, can I ask you a question? Yeah, sure. What the hell? Yeah, how many? It's Cuba next. Next question? Sorry, I didn't ask you anything. Well, it's Cuba next. Next question. All right. Sorry, you've been silent for four minutes, but you haven't hung up the call. Are you awake? Are you awake right now?

I got very engaged. I got five minutes to talk about windmills. Did you see this was during, like, the Memorial Day thing while Pete Hegg-Seth is talking? And, like, I know the thing that got all the headlines is him looking like he was asleep for a minute or two. But there's a point where he gets obviously bored and he starts, like, looking around and then tapping his knees during the speech. Like you're like a kid at a graduation. ceremony, you know, your older brother's graduation ceremony. You're like, Jesus, how long do I have to be?

Baby's first baseball game? Yeah, yeah. He just looks so obviously bored. He's like, why don't I have to do this? Just like crushing, yeah, crushing peanut shells with his feet. He's like, oh, that's fun, all right. He couldn't sit through his son's wedding. No, no, he had to.

He couldn't attend. He had a lot of, it was a bad time, a lot of stuff with Ron and playing golf and executive time, watching TV all that. I mean, yeah, it's probably a, It would probably be a bad to be seen at an extravagant wedding in the Bahamas. While you're also threatening to bomb Cuba and in Bay Cuba. Also, his new daughter-in-law's father is a big Epstein guy. Yeah, it was really helpful with Epstein.

They're not tied together at all. It's not a good look. I guess he helped Epstein by his island, not a good look to be on an island. And then he was talking about the fiancé. And he was like, well, I've known her a long time. A lot of people thought he was talking about Don Jr., but he was talking about it. Fake news. He was talking about him and he just speaks weird and you got to like really.

But he did a bit like, hey, I've known her a long time because her dad was a big helper of the guy I was best friends with for a few years. What was his name? Jeffrey. I can't remember. I'll tell you later. It's very funny. I'll text Jonathan Swan later and tell him. Because like everyone is framing it like, oh, he said, I've known my son for a long time, which would be fun.

funny if he said that. Be very funny if he said that. But also it's funny because he was talking about the bride, but in a way where he didn't really know what to say positive about her. Like he was about to say something positive. Couldn't come up with anything and just said, I've known it for a long time. That's his compliment,

is that they've known each other for a long time. I mean, I guess some of the Trump stuff we should hit before we talk about Uber while we're on J.D. While we're on Trump is he went to Walter Reed for his bi-annual checkup because you do two when you're almost 80, I guess, a year. And then he said it all went great and left. But now there's just been a lot of rumors and speculation about his health. He hasn't really looked well lately.

I don't know if you've noticed. He's had multiple. He's had two dentist appointments already this year, and they were doing a dental checkup at Walter Reed as well. So, I mean, listen, that doesn't mean anything about his mental acuity, but they're doing a lot of dental things. No, that has a lot to do with the candy he eats. Oh, the poison.

Poison. That is more to do with whether or not he's brushing those teeth. Yeah. He probably had to have like a root canal or something. Yeah. But he's not looking good. And they were going to do tomorrow's cabinet meeting. So we're going to get a lot of clips of people.

Thank you so much. Thank you so much for existing. Exactly. But so they were going to do that at Camp David on a little retreat for some reason. And then today he's like, well, based on weather, I guess in my rain tomorrow, we're going to do it here at the White House. which of course has raised speculation that he needs some procedure done. I also saw a lot of weird speculation based on nothing, I should say,

that he failed the cognitive test this time. This is all silly, but like he is not looking well. I think it's a fun outlet for us to speculate. I don't generally like the hobby of people dissecting another person's appearance on camera, blah, blah, blah, and trying to diagnose. However, it's Donald Trump. And he is the President of the United States, and he's out of control, and he does not look good,

and he is nodding off, and he's losing it, all of that. So we're okay with it. But ultimately, we're going to know when we know if something happens, and it keeps getting us. It keeps getting me. Well, not lately. I haven't gotten me, but there have been a few times on Twitter where you're like,

didn't happen. Yeah. And it... We did it in our most recent episode, the beginning. Some people weren't happy about that. Yeah. At the beginning, I'm like,

Donald Trump is dead politically. Yeah. Oh, I... Yeah. Look, we can start speculating that J.D. Vance is slowly dying and sick. We could.

That could be fun. That's why he's lost weight. If he had a soul, it would be corroding. That's why he's lost so much weight. And not because a 20-year-old streamer that breaks is... jaw with a hammer called him fat in an interview once

like seven months ago what? About seven months ago I have to take me off camera Katie you may go We've rehearsed this We've rehearsed this

Yeah I want to hear this shit I would say seven or eight months ago Clavicular who you are familiar with Was being interviewed You've heard the name He's one of the streamer He does the maxing

Looks maxing and some meth to lose weight, breaking your jaw and so on and so forth to become the finest looking sociopath in the world, I guess. Not going so great for him, whatever. We don't need to talk about that, but he did an interview about seven or eight months ago

where he was asked about like a matchup between like Vance and Newsom. A fight or a presidential? Like a presidential matchup. And he basically said like, well, obviously I would vote for Gavin Newsom because he mogs Vance and he called Vance fat. He said, yeah, he's like fat guy.

He's like, he's not like reaching his full potential, whatever he said. And I immediately was like, Vance is going to see that and he's going to try to lose weight. And then he did. And slowly, you will notice over the past seven months, Vance is getting a little skinnier to the point where literally the president of the United States

has made comments. Like, Vance, looking a little thinner. He's like made comments. But he hasn't called him out Because he, whenever he's talking about Whenever Trump's talking about OZembek He tells that story It's not in a note

I'm so fat It's not working for him Yeah, I know a really fat rich guy And he's taking it No, that's not what he said But he's not doing the thing With Vance that he does with like Young attractive men

Where he talks about how young and attractive They are and how he hates them Because they take attention away from him He's not doing that No, no, it's a little more shamy Like, oh, Vance is getting a little skinnier Look at him You know like that kind of thing

like just off the cuff. And he started to do that. And then I feel like this is from maybe a few weeks ago, maybe a month ago, I saw a different interview with clavicular where he's... You could just say you're watching the clavicular streams. I guess some clips in my feet is fine. Obviously, I have another monitor and I'm watching it right now.

But in another interview, he is like, yeah, I think your fans is looking a little better. I think he saw my interview and reacted to it. So even like the president and the streamer are both like acknowledging that Vance has made a conscious effort to like slim down a little bit. And it's 100% because he saw this meth streamer say that Gavin is not sure a lot of people brought it to his attention. I don't think J.D. Vance is spending his time. Oh no. I mean, he's an investor in Rumble.

So he's watching the thing. But he has been shown the. clip and it did affect him and he did change his behavior and both the president and the streamer that started it have both called it out publicly i mean listen you know i'm not into shaming people for their parents no this is not like but i do like jd vance's life to be made worse and miserable it's a complicated position we're in yeah i'd like him to feel that about himself He should

He should And he will One day Yeah but I don't I guess I don't want it to be About his body Because that goes against my ethics Yeah

There will be many many other things As long as he feels bad I feel bad I don't think anybody else Would feel bad But he should feel bad But this like Because I know Vance's stock

Is down But this whole like Marco's the guy Rubio's the guy I don't buy it For a second No He has less juice than Vance

in terms of just like speaking. He's supposed to be like the serious one. But he's as tied to all this stuff, all the failures of the Iran war and all this stuff. That's tied to him as well. And I don't think he's got the charisma to keep both the Trump people on board and the more serious of the Republicans and get some of the suburban people back.

No, he's not doing that. He can't even like hide his exasperation with like the people in the, room when he's in the room like whenever Trump says stuff you can just like slowly zoom in on ruby on the background just being like oh my god i can't believe in the fucking year yeah it just all goes back to that one clip from 2016 of him being asked will you support the nominee when the primary is over and he says after about three seconds of pause getting harder every day yeah it's all that moment for the rest of his life. They all made their peace

with it. Like, Ted Cruz has no problem whatsoever. Like, he could look straight into the camera and say, like, I love Donald Trump and I love everything he's done for this country. He's my father. Yeah. He's got nothing, and I feel like I am a zodiac killer. Yeah, Rubio is just like

like, like him being the, considered the, like, the adult in the room now. I guess it's true with all these other freaks. Oh yeah. It's embarrassing and sad that he is the one who is considered that. While like RFK's talking about

circumcisions and autism. Snakes at Dr. Oz's his patio. You got something to say about the snake catching. You know I just he's just of course he did that and then it like bit him. Well they were they were fucking right. They were fucking

and who wants to get interrupted while they're fucking but he's like a little boy but also I don't know. It's a corner of Dr. Oz's patio. Looks like not a place I'd want to hang out. It looks like a hospital patio thing that you go and have a cigarette break

while you're waiting for terrible news. One of these like desert mansion retreats, they want to get away from people, which means there's going to be more wilderness around you. And having more wilderness around you in the desert, that means snakes. And then you're just like stuck there in jeans. Yeah.

But of course You got to wear jeans. You call RFK over if you've got snakes around and you're like, who do I know who can wrangle snakes and choke him out with his bare hands? Yeah.

Go ahead. He got snakes or I got, oh, there's some rotting meat. Who am I going to call to take care of this rotting meat outside? Oh. Do you guys remember the, during the election times?

I guess when he was still running for president, there was some, RFK? RFK. There was some article interview that his daughter did and she shares the story of driving in their van and their dad insisting on taking home a whale carcass and then it was just spilling juice into their windows and she's like that's my dad I can't get over it I know people oh you yeah that is a whale I mean who would think that a whale would have some fluid in it you know after whale you need to take a little puppet boy in a whale not fluid come on Unless we forget the bear Yeah I mean his soul is packed with rotting meat

Like I don't know He's just Yeah whale juice How about we can say Uber and then The other Megan Kelly clip And then take it from there Perfect

Oh man everyone's got the Wait I don't know what that's about Everyone's got bodily functions While we're on this thing I don't know what you guys are doing I don't know what you're hooked up to You guys aren't hooked up to anything down here. This is not a sponsored, but I am pretty into this.

Sam Pellegrino Chow Cherry flavor. It's my new favorite soda water. Sam Pellegrino hit us up unless there's some real bad controversy, and I shouldn't have shoddened out that company. All right, so let me set up the AI story since we hinted at it several times. I'm going to share my screen again so everyone can get it. So Uber's C-O-O was talking at some event, whatever, and saying it's getting harder to justify the money spent on AI.

This headline says AI token maxing, because that's a thing that we're saying now. That's a thing that we're saying, just maxing everything. Did clavicular invent it? Well, at any rate, it's going to be the thing, the lasting legacy. That's his legacy for sure, is maxing with two Xs. But here's what he says. He is talking about how much.

Uber's using AI and he says the link is not there yet, right? I think maybe implicitly there is more that is getting shipped, but it's very hard to draw a line between one of those stats and say, okay, now we're actually producing 25% more useful customer features. He said that based on talks with Uber's senior engineering leaders, he realized higher token usage did not translate into a proportional increase in useful consumer features. So this is just one executive at one company saying like, hey, we did what everyone else did, forced all of our employees to use AI as much as possible, spend the tokens and all that stuff. But like, it's not, we have no evidence that it's actually helping productivity, increasing revenue, all the stuff it would need

to do. And if, you know, it wouldn't take that many more major companies saying, hey, we're going to go to cheaper options with this AI thing. We're not going to be contributing. We're not going to be making up, you know, a significant percentage of anthropic or open AI's revenue. That makes what our friendly commenter suggested earlier about the AI bubble bursting, more of a reality. If there's a bit of a panic about, we actually aren't going to be able to bring in the money if even major companies like Uber aren't going to pay for it. Very interesting. Brave C-O. Coming out there and speaking. Yeah.

power here. But yeah, I would suspect that more of this will materialize in the near future. This is just such a good illustration of what we've all been saying, which is that this whole AI thing is being propped up by the promise of all the things that it's going to do for us, that this is going to change our life. It's going to revolutionize. And you better get on board, better get on board. People are throwing their money at it.

and it's not materializing yet. Not in the way. Like, everybody that has gone to AI, every, it's broken. It doesn't work. Things don't work well. People aren't interested. They don't want it.

I don't think that's uniquely American. I'm curious people in other countries to talk to me about how AI is being received where you live. But it doesn't work. It's not functionally appropriate. It's not making my life better in any way. way so far. And there are going to be use cases and stuff, but like the the sort of public facing version of it is just awful. We saw like five days ago or something, if you Google the word

disregard, the definition of the word is like, sorry, what can I do for you? Because it's AI. It's not a dictionary anymore. They're just replacing everything that functioned correctly with AI. All the pronunciations are just AI guessing. It's all guessing. It makes search worse. That's one near and dear to Cody's heart because when we're recording episodes of the show and we have something to pronounce, we're trying to

nail it. We'll Google it and look at the pronouncing, how to pronounce it and wildly different answers. It's like five different versions and they're all AI and they're all wrong. No, you have to go to like someone respected on a video pronouncing it. Which takes longer, but if you just Google blank pronunciation.

Like, you might have a bunch of different stuff, or you might have the little woman where you click it and it says it. That's wrong sometimes. It's usually wrong. Speech of text is terrible. Everything is bad. And we've even seen Sam Altman either yesterday or two days ago was hedging because they know it's being poorly received about like, well, it's not going to take jobs.

I don't think it's going to take jobs. I don't think it's going to take jobs, actually. not going to take all the jobs everyone's saying it's going to take. And it's just very clear, like, oh, your pitch for this technology was it's going to take everybody's jobs and make it being worse. And you think that's good, but no one else does. And so now you have to acknowledge it. Never mind.

I don't, all that stuff that we said was bad that was going to happen. It's not anymore. They're going, because they know. Change my mind. Yeah. They're going back and forth because at first they're just like, well, all of our customers are going to be these huge companies that have just an endless supply of money and will just be the biggest sauce company of all time.

Software as a service. What doesn't matter? Soft. Yes, that stuff is dead. Adobe. All that stuff is dead now. It doesn't matter. But then they're seeing what the Uber guy is saying and like, oh, maybe these companies aren't going to make up all of our revenue and we actually need people to be on board. Okay, we're not going to try to sell it to them by saying, hey, you won't need employees anymore. You'll just be able to use us. Now, hey, it's not going to take your job.

can use it too. You can pay us. If we just get 10 squillion people to pay us 20 bucks a month, it'll make sense. We'll finally have a path to profitability. Go read Ed Zetron's new post on this. Or even Elon Musk agrees terrifying when Ed Zetron was posting. It is interesting to watch what's happening in this moment in time, moment in time. With a moment of time, moment in time, with this, but also just in general with our president. You keep expecting it to go down and it goes down and then it goes back up, the stock market, all this stuff. People just don't believe it. They're just doubling down.

They want to make that money. They want to keep riding this horse. They want to, they don't want to pull out too soon or whatever because you got to wait it out. Well, they put billions and billions and billions and billions of dollars into it. They put billions and billions and billions and dollars. But there's just average people too that, you know, their investments, their life savings are wrapped up in this. It's just willful, trying to, like, denial of the reality of what's happening right now because they're kind of the backs against the wall. I'm thinking of average people.

But you're right. The big players, the billions, the big companies, the corporations that are just saying we know backsees, we can't go back now. Yeah, they can't. Because we're too fucked if we do. And, yeah. and it's not something yeah it's wild since the because yet everyone's

oh look at this we're doing great like this is the Iran war starts here we go down in the S&P 500 and then since then I mean it's just like it's double down make it till you make it feels like they don't think it can end or

and maybe they're right that you know there'll be a little bit of a market correction you know the dot com bubble but it's like the internet still was it, you know, it's not like Amazon went away after that, just pets.com did, but like OpenAI and Anthropic are here to stay, but like, what if they're wrong? Like, what if they're wrong and everyone's just trying to goose it as high as it'll go? Like, it feels like it could be bad. That's all, that's all, you know. I feel so much resentment.

And like, I think about it a lot lately. Just, this, not against any individual person that has their 401k or just doing their best, but just the resentment that that is the expectation to participate in this fucking Ponzi scheme, whatever, in order to protect yourself in the future because we do not offer basic social services that we need to ensure that we can live a long and healthy life. you back into a wall and supporting this. And so you have to root for the thing to succeed that is ultimately our destruction. And it's just bucking with my mind a lot lately.

Every time I try not to pay much attention to the stock market. But everyone talks about it now. It's hard to not. It's the bedded on a horse economy. And like, I'm, I'm writing an episode right now that I will hopefully be finished with soon about some of this stuff. And, you know, there will be the, there's always these vibe session discussions of like, oh, why do people feel so bad about things when it's, when everything's doing great?

And the smarter people who are actually making the argument that the economy is not that bad, don't just point at the stock market. But there are a lot of people who point at the stock market despite the fact that, like, the richest 10% of Americans own, 93% of it. And that's kind of what's keeping the economy afloat. All the spending that's going on is rich people who are doing great because as long as the stock market's going up, the economy won't crash because they're still getting all the money and spending the money on things. So if the AI bubble bursts and it's a significant market correction, all those people pull back as well. And that's when companies significantly start laying off people because then all the sales are going down,

right? Like all the, all the companies are just geared towards rich people now because that's who can afford stuff and that's who's buying things. So like, you know, in order for like rank and file people and like workers at restaurants and stuff to keep their jobs, they're like, well, I kind of hope this thing goes up. So the rich people who are our clientele keeps spending money. And then still keeps spending money. There's that interview with Bezos a few days ago, like last week where he's talking about like, you know, we shouldn't, we shouldn't be taxing these people, these people. He just won people to spend more money at Amazon. That's this whole thing.

Like, no, I want people to have more money so they can pay me the money. It's impossible. It's impossible. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I resent it. Yeah, the vibes session too bothers me a lot because whenever and everyone tries to explain

like, well, it's because people feel this way, this way, this way, this way, like they're looking at this and they're looking at like, increasing inequality, all these sort of things. And then the response is like, oh, so vibes, you can't just dismiss all of that as just vibes. Like it's real people having real like experiences. It's not like it's such a,

it's just a kind of slimy way to dismiss any people's actual concerns. Not just with like, well, the economy, this marker, this marker. No, it's also we've talked about this. Like it's the economy. Not like, oh, it's the stock market is doing or unemployment or this. It's like, no, what is the economy as a whole? doing? How does it operate? Who are the winners and losers of this economy?

How is it like how does this play out? And I think that this is kind of, it's not helpful to just be like, ah, that's vibes. Then just, I guess just don't worry about it. Don't think about it. And sharing your chart, but like that's not

changing the vibes or people's like, you know, experience. Well, and the charts, the economic metrics used to be kind of tied to the well-being of most people. And now it's become untethered and we can show all these charts. I'll show the stupid charts in the stupid episode. But like, not too many.

A few charts. Some more charts. Some more charts. That's my show when I take over. It's just like, some more data. Here's some, actually. But no, but clearly, like, housing costs being so much higher than the median wage is like a big thing for people. The things people see every day and then not being able to take part in some of the

experiences that they used to. So like when concert tickets and go into Disneyland and taking a flight or something, things that you used to be able to do once in a while are now feel like, oh, that's just out of reach. That's just a thing that rich people do now, I guess. Right. That's what's creating this feeling.

And so it's like the vibes are real because it's real ways that people cannot participate in the economy anymore. Yeah. Anyway, I'll get off the. that's soapbox and same. And I guess... Yeah, we'll have the whole

vibe session episode will be great. It's not a vibe session episode. It is now. But okay, it is not. I'm sorry. I'm going to add four pages on the vibe session and, I don't know, Tucker Carlson or something. I'm keeping it short.

Our numbers are going up. We love that. Jesse Water section about that. I know. I know. I feel... I feel bad that we might wrap it up soon because we got more people here, but we love it. Thank you. Welcome. Thank you.

So much. Welcome. I'm sure it's getting late back. I'm sure the oh yeah yeah do you want to watch this other Megan yeah let's watch let's talk about a glass house I mean oh has cheated on every wife he's had he he met Marla Maples while he was still married to the mother of his children Ivana it was all over the New York papers I'm I'm from New York upstate New York but I was in New York when this all went down the city and it was like being touted like he was proud of affair. It was all over the papers.

So you knew about it then. Ivana, his first wife, accused him of raping her. Wow, you got there. She alleged in her first book that he was so angry over the hair transplant he got that she made him get. It was so painful that he raped her.

And she later retracted that when he ran for president. But that stood on the books for some time. I don't know whether that's true or not. She reacted the use of the word rape specifically. I know. for whatever but yeah no no no this is just

rolled the clip we're not going to roll a clip we don't have it prepared but we did all we've talked about it so much we've talked about this so much all the time even the last like oh my god I just mentioning that is so infuriating don't have an aneurism I might I just what do you

it was in all the papers and I was from New York and I read all the papers so I knew about it and I'm mad about it now that's so infuriating And Katie, to your point, she didn't retract any of the account of what happened. She didn't say it didn't happen. She didn't say he didn't do this.

She said, I wouldn't categorize it as rape. And I am. And if you read the description, that is what it is describing. I can't believe this fucking person. Yeah. And I think some of that had to do, I could be wrong at the time. Because they were married. People have like weird ideas of the use of rape and we're pushing back.

on her because they were married. You can be raped by your husband. Yes, you can. There's a whole, we talk about it in the next episode. We talk about it in the next episode. It's the whole thing about it. It's just wild. And to her point also of, yeah, like, I was alive during this time of the 90s and I was there.

I lived there and I saw these reports. We all did. He was a joke. He's always been a joke. A very famous joke. A philandering sleaze ball. rapist, pedophile. Always, that is how we have talked about Donald Trump.

And then suddenly he became your guy. He's been your guy, Megan, for a while now. And I appreciate, you know, I'm not saying don't retract things or amend your opinion of the man. But also, you're such a fucking liar because you've known this the whole time. He yelled at you about having blood coming out of your, wherever. What the fuck? It's shameful.

It's shameless. It's embarrassing. And again, back to where we started with this Megan Kelly conversation. There will be people that just follow her and okay, I guess. But. Podcast is doing really well. Shame on you, Megan Kelly. Shame on you.

Welcome to the resistance and shame on you. She doesn't care about anything. No. She cares about making. money. She cares about where her bread gets buttered next and she can read the tea leaves and see that a dwindling percentage of people support this president and she's going to carve out her lane. Fucking Megan Kelly.

Fucking Megan Kelly. Come on the show. How dare you? Like, I can't. I've already seen that clip. Yeah. I know. You reacted very strongly, as you should. It's frustrating. It was in all the papers.

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Probably. Yeah, usually. Usually sticks around a little later. But it's really nice doing this. Every time we ended, I think we should do this more often. And then I remember that we spent a lot of time today and Jonathan was stressed.

We'll figure it out. It's fine. We get in there. Well, it's supposed to be like, hey, we're not doing a summer news this week. So it's a taking it easy week. And then it becomes, not for Jonathan especially. You don't need to say that, Katie. I appreciate it.

No, but Jonathan is amazing. It's a lot for everybody, but Jonathan is a rock. And you know what? I'm going to shout out Will, our director, Will. Oh, please do. Who jumped in this month and has been learning things and he's been doing a great job. Fantastic work, Will. Thank you.

Thank you. We'll work out the volume situation later, guys. I'm on it, okay? We'll get there. He's on it. Can you guys hear Will? Could you hear him and was he really, really loud? Because he said that he's going to work out the volume thing next time.

And I want to thank our producer, Moana, who feeds us little tidbits of information and things I'm wrong about during the thing. So thank you very much. Will was so loud. I knew it. I was like, well, well, wow. They can hear you will. God was that you. That's our sweet will, director of Some More News.

He's integral to this. Sorry, it was kind of a joke, but it's maybe it went out. Sorry. It was fantastic. And, yeah, we miss you, Nick. I know you're watching. Thank you, Nick, for watching. Stop working.

Stop working, please. Okay. Maybe I'll play a day in the life. I'm responding to that. Maybe. He'll play. People are requesting in the chat. We'll see.

Cody's been working on. During the stream last year. Yeah, but not this time. Not this time. Oh yeah, we tried to do that. Well, I changed the entire melody and the chords and everything last time.

So it was unpleasant and raw. But, yeah, on our private stream, they can't do anything about it. Exactly. All right, guys. You know what? Meet us over there in about. Yeah, it says so right there.

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