Some More News - The Queen, The Heat, The Spit, and EVEN MORE News

Episode Date: September 9, 2022

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hello hello hello hello hello hello and welcome back to me cody told me to say it five times i'm sorry hello and welcome back to even more news the first and only news podcast. My name is Katie Stoll. Hi, Katie Stoll. Hi, Katie Stoll. Hi, Katie Stoll. Hi, Katie Stoll. Hi, Katie Stoll. I meant to do the whole intro five times, but that seems laborious.

So yeah, too much. Hi, Cody. Thanks for having me. You are very welcome. Just this once to be here. The other times I'm not welcome. No, I barge into the to the zoom sorry and joining us today we are thrilled to welcome author musician and host of the podcasts

podcasts two of them live like the world is dying and cool people who did cool stuff that's right we have margaret killjoy hi margaret hello okay but i have a question about this being the only news show because the name itself implies that there has at some point been a different news show perhaps one that you supplanted well it's honestly it's just even more of the news in the world but there aren't other news podcasts at least not that i'm aware of we've simply named the renamed the show so it was news originally we were called news yeah all right and and new age so we're then we're like all right more news and then even more news so it's

always been the same show originally it was called news i see and it's it is perplexing we had josie duffy rice on last week and uh she is a interim co-host of what a day which is a daily podcast that i guess sometimes talks about news but they're not the same thing events events i would say they talk about events things that have happened you know but it's different it's different in many many ways but we're not gonna get into into it. Yeah, no, we don't. No time for that. Because first, we have got to acknowledge that today, September 8th, is National School Picture Day. That's what this day will be remembered as.

That's what this day will be remembered as. And World Ampersand Day. A day that will live in infamy. National School Picture Day. Yeah. Go out there and give them your beth all teeth no smile you know what i'm talking about try it when you just it's like you're baring your teeth that's how kids smile in all their school pictures and i'm very here for it in fact that's how we're going to smile for the promotion the social media promotion this week

this is an audio medium so you can't actually so if you want a visual of what i am describing please go look at the social medias give us a like give us a subscribe i never do that subscribe and a like up top too not even at the end of the show nope not even september 9th friday the day that this is released, it's National Teddy Bear Day. And Bernie Sanders' birthday, so not a coincidence. Yeah, it's the same thing. You know, that teddy bear Bernie Sanders. Exactly. Today is

Bernie Sanders' birthday. Oh. Not yesterday. Not the 9th? When you're listening to this, it will have been yesterday. Today's the 8th. We're recording. Tomorrow is today for you, the 9th. And if you're today is today for you, the 9th. And if you're today for you, yesterday was the birthday. Yeah, spoiler alert for you, tomorrow, today, yesterday was Bernie Sanders' birthday. I can't even keep time zones straight.

No need. Absolutely no need. Time is an illusion, so you don't need to. Yeah. Margaret, we're so happy to have you here. I've been really looking forward to this i had the honor of being on one of your shows cool people who did cool stuff uh when we talked about birth control pioneers and it was wonderful i highly recommend everybody go check out your your show

tell them tell tell the people a little bit about it uh cool people did cool stuff it does what it says on the tin it's basically yeah it's a history podcast but instead of focusing on bad people it focuses on the people who fought against the bad people or people who i think are cool and since i have a very an attitude that is a bit aggressive towards the current world order i tend to think people who are cool are the people who are various rebels and stuff throughout history. So, yeah, Katie came on and we talked about all of the people who fought for birth control when that was crazy illegal and like went to jail for telling people how to not get pregnant. Yeah, it was fascinating, actually. And all of these brave people who are ahead of their times and the people that

suck but yeah you know they go hand in hand so you get a little bit of both so you did an interview recently with sci-fi pulse and uh they asked you a question can you tell us your work's message in 25 words or less and your response was we all all of us need to explore our own agency as individuals and community communities in order to fix this dying planet um and we would you like a chance to elaborate in more than 25 words because i think you really did a great job condensing it but there's obviously more to be said. Yeah, I mean, as much I like creative expression, creative expression rules, but I think that it is most interesting and useful to me, even as a creator, for even for selfish reasons, if it's building towards a project, right, if it is engaging in the world, rather than just something I'm doing on my own, which is fun. I like doing things on my own. I make little wood carving things that, but in terms of like my work, especially as a science fiction author, I am interested in exploring alternatives. That's something that like, because we hit this weird period when I grew up in like the eighties and nineties, where everyone was talking about

like art as if it was all apolitical. And they're like, Oh, all those old science fishing classics that are totally apolitical. And I'm like, wait, but have you read the books? I'm curious because I grew up reading them and they're all literally exploring different political systems. That's their basic concept. And so I do that too, right? My work, I tend to try and focus when I can on the sort of more positive aspects, like things we can do to fight against bad things or things that we could do

if there were no bad things to fight against, right? Or if the bad things we had to fight against was like, I don't know, I'm poly and it's complicated or something. So yeah, that's what I try and do with my writing and what I kind of think is worth doing for people if you're trying to figure out like, I don't know. Okay, so like as a tangent, it was like when I first started studying art, right. I had like nothing to say because I was

just like learning art for art's sake. And I wasn't very interested in it. I was bored by my own art, even as I got technically better at it. Um, and it wasn't until I like went out and started engaging in the world. And for me, that was, um, through like joining a lot of like direct action protest movements, trying to bring trying to bring economic justice to the global south you know then i finally felt like i had something to say and i think my work got better as a result i'm sure i mean that feels yeah universally true that when you go out and you have life experiences or your work you put me to you you learn something about yourself through experience about humanity and then you use that.

Your art is the vehicle for the message. Yeah, from experience to expression. That's what art is. Yeah. Well, there's so many ways to do it. Like, y'all do it, you know? I mean, there's, right? Like, this isn't like high art podcasting doesn't get a capital E and isn't in the museums yet.

No, no, no. Not yet. Not yet. But high art but someday my god willing never yeah god willing never art's better in the gutter anyways there's gonna be a podcast museum for sure someday there absolutely is it's gonna be a grift just like the rest of it's gonna be a grift there's gonna be a bunch of headphones i guess you walk in like some you know interactive exhibit i'm not here for that kind of art every thursday i wake up and i go i'm going into the studio today nobody bother me i need to like get into center yourself exactly i do i do consider myself a creative still but i

i'm not i was thinking about this the other day as is it am I an artist anymore? I don't know. Or does that shift? But I think that your art is also the way you move through the world, how you show up, how it can be anything. It can be the love and attention that you give to your home. It can be a garden. You know, it can be how you love people. Yeah. That's what I'm telling myself anyway.

Yeah. It's again, it's running a business and not Yeah. That's what I'm telling myself anyway. Yeah, it's, again, it's expression. As I'm running a business and not painting. It's me, Dr. Cody, with a PhD in comfortology and a minor in multimedia journalism. So it turns out there's not many good jobs in either of my fields. I'm actually really struggling with that. But what I can tell you about is Bowlin Branch, a company that makes comfy bed sheets.

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He said I was mean and weird. I'm sorry. He said you were mean and weird, actually, Katie. Oh, fuck. See, now that makes more sense. Steal himself to the very end. Excellent. All right.

No, the news that broke is that the Queen of England. Of England. Has died. And we're all really broken up about it too we're what okay we're all really broken up about it yeah we're all really broken up about it over here you know we're all really broken up by it jonathan do you have anything to say you say you're not an artist look at that performance that's true yeah i mean uh she died yeah the queen's dead bro she dead this morning or this afternoon in england did not save the queen she was 96 you know i mean we've been like it's been

like you know every other day it's like is the queen dead yet is it like is she for years she's if she's are they are they hiding the fact that she's dead? Have they thought that? I have not been paying attention to Queen Twitter and the ins and outs of her health. It's fine. It's very stuffy. But she is an old woman. It's sad to see that she died from getting the vaccine.

That's the narrative. I mean, in fairness, I saw like two random people. I was like, yeah, like one freak said it, right? Yeah, one guy was like, she wasn't the same ever since she got the jab. Yeah. What's wrong with it? It's like, well, prove them wrong. Prove them wrong.

The old woman, the very, very old woman has been on the downward trend for the last couple of years as old people do as they tend to do oh i was gonna say uh margaret so i assume you have an episode uh of about the queen in the works right for cool people for cool people definitely not a reverse episode definitely just do an episode about roger casement the gay irish rebel who stopped king leopold and then uh smuggled guns into uh tried to smuggle guns well he once succeeded and the second time he failed smuggled guns into ireland for the easter rising and was put on trial and on trial they like found his gay diaries and were like ah but you want to like this guy but he's gay and that was like the crown's whole argument against him was that he had

sex with people who were also men and then right this is going to come around to the queen and what i think should happen when he was killed he was like hey my dying wish is to be buried in the church cemetery where i grew up in what's now northern ireland he was like i just want to be buried there with a actual religious ceremony because i am a religious person and instead they like threw his body in a pit and covered it in quicklime so it'd rot faster and it took like 20 no sorry uh 40 years before they repatriated his body except when they repatriated his body to ire they repatriate his body to Ireland, they refused to,

they were like, we'll give it back to you on one condition. It's not allowed to go to Northern Ireland because we still own Northern Ireland, you fucks, we fucking rule you. So he's buried in Ireland, but he's not buried in the part of Ireland

he's like from and wants to be buried in. So he can't be repatriated until Northern Ireland is no longer part of the uk so this is my theory about what should happen to the queen when the british museum is emptied uh and then she can be buried in england i don't really know what the official line we're trying to take here on this show is, but I'm not a fan. Hey, you know, differing opinions. You know, we're huge.

We're huge queen heads over here. Queen of heads. It's funny. I like, I've seen like so many tweets from people like in Ireland, like, like there's like setting off fireworks and stuff. Yeah. It's very funny. There's a new king in town. Oh, wait, what? I mean, they're a king. I thought they got rid of it. there's a new king in town

a king they have like a replacement strategy yeah it's a whole thing have you ever seen Game of Thrones it's similar it's like a Hydra it's like a whole thing

right so now Charles is king he's stepping in as a spry young man of 73 two i don't care the boy king charles the boy king ascends the throne he needs a region oh god what a big weird day for him yeah he does need a region it's just fast i don't i'm not fascinated if ever so often you see him and i don't need to make fun of the way somebody looks but i i don't and i won't that's as much as i'm gonna say but he's always a bit of a sad puppy looking waiting for his turn to be king and now his mom died and he's you know and he's king it's like the best day of his life sad boy king yeah i was fascinated that he is gonna be king charles the third but

he could have chosen any name he wanted it's so weird he could have been king george the seventh if he wanted oh he should he should have just just chosen Henry VIII and sung that song a lot. Or King Elizabeth III. The next in the line. I think King Elizabeth III would have been the classic move. Or like... Out of respect, right?

Or like Targaryen first of his name. Or something. Yeah. Charles is like, I've really been into House of the Dragon lately. Or he could have done it King Charlie first of his name. Changed it up so that

he's not charles yeah king chuck or like um charlie chas like gone for like a non like thistle you know or like a lot of options other than charles yeah point and that's the point but he didn't not a very good king apparently he's not having fun with it he's not an artist he's not a creative his life is art we joked about how young he is compared to his dead mom yeah but he's not he's not young i don't think he has it in him to change his his whole vibe at this stage we'll see apologies if you're big queen heads listening yeah we don't mean to offend you it's just just like, I don't know, the royal family's not reading our tweets. It's fine.

Yeah, I don't really feel so. Normally, there's always a. I mean, we're avoiding the bigger conversation about what the monarchy represents. Oh, sure. No, there's no there's no. I feel like that's a given here in our listenership. I know that some of you are across the pond and this more directly affects you. And I can't begin to know what you're going through.

I'm sorry. I have to stop laughing. A lot of people love the monarchy. A lot of people hate it over there. It doesn't really matter what I think of it. But I don't feel any reason to hold back from jokes. It's not like this is a tragedy. This is an old woman died, an old woman died. And she's wasn't a particularly good old woman, you know. And also like when you make yourself a symbol, which she did, she like by

becoming a monarch, you are making yourself a symbol rather than a person. And if you if you want to hold on to the person being a person, then you don't get to be the monarch. I don't know. And well, she I've watched The Crown and she had to work hard to divorce herself from the no, I'm trying to be funny. But yeah, no. But being a monarch, the at least the way that they paint it, you know, you like, yeah, it's a decision to almost separate your humanity from from yourself. You no longer view yourself as a person who has opinions or empathy, really, because you have to just do the ceremonial role and your personal perspectives don't mean anything. Again, that's from the crown claire boy is wonderful she's probably i wasn't i was in ireland a few while back and the crown was

the first season it just aired and i was at this house party with all these really cool got kids not kids adults young adults and they were like, I'm not going to try to do an Irish accent because I would murder it. And it would be embarrassing for everyone. But they're basically saying, like, God damn, I kind of like her now after watching Claire Foy. They didn't mean it. But, you know, that show humanizes the monarchy and the queen in such a way so that you, you know. Yeah. Monarchaganda.

You sit here on your podcast and say what I just said. Well, whenever I feel like Americans talk about England, there's this like, I interviewed Alan Moore once. I don't even remember what I was interviewing him about this time. And he was like, it's weird when Americans set films in England because to them, it's a fantasy land. You all think we still have giants. And I'm like, yes, the land of dragons right yeah exactly that's true all of your names sound like all the place names sound like they come from tolkien which is reverse of how things work yeah right right yeah

like yeah there's like yeah assholes and stuff everywhere these like everything's made of stone like it's it's the it is a fantasy world i mean i maintain that it is and also it's this thing where like and i'm very guilty of this where like white americans can kind of be like yeah well we may be colonizers but they're colonizers right you know and it's like it's kind of a like punching down the only way we are like punch what we consider punching up is like the only people we can punch up to and it's kind of cheating right that we do this as so much but i'm like whatever my family was i do think there's this aspect of like america does so much silly bad stuff but like if we look to to the uk they do this very specific dumb bad thing that we don't or at least not yet right but like so i think

that's what makes this day what it is for us because it's like what what is this silliness exactly exactly like piers morgan's gonna be crying on tv like there's gonna be like yeah there's there's gonna be oh that's something to look forward to stuff happening that we just don't get and i think that's why we can look over and be like what are you doing well and you know america i mean obviously we came from i mean people came from everywhere we come to america but america as it is you know we came over we have fought for our independence. There always been like the the the parent that we got ourselves emancipated from and in some way. And we're not, you know, and there is all that we like to say, like, well, at least we're not them. But we are. Yeah, totally. That's the root of everything that we have came from that. We don't have a king, but we have one president you know like in and our ideas of wealth

and and class and all of it all of those structures came with us so we're not very different but we are fascinated and instead of having royalty we have our celebrities i mean every place does but we're fascinated by it in some weird way i grew up fascinated by it it took me learning what it actually meant you know yeah yeah we have royalty we just renamed it uh peers has uh already uh reported the news he said he shed a tear just one yeah he's a man just one that's a lot he's apparently his son apparently Here's a tweet from his son. God, what fucking... This...

Excellent. This fucking country. Sad thing is there will be people in this country celebrating this. They're the ones we need to focus on deporting. Wow. What an incredible mind. Just what a... Love it.

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And we are back, as as promised for even more news it is yeah it's fine good it wasn't an accent i know it wasn't i was trying i was trying to not do an accent no guys if i tried to do an accent you would have it still would have been bad you can tell because you would have hermione you'll see how bad my accent is i tried so hard that's the problem he's referencing when we did our strange strange not harry potter but harry potter show at cracked and we had a lot of fun and i played hermione and i tried so but for some reason michael swain wrote it so that him and dan o'brien were bizarro versions of harry and ron so they had american accents but i they didn't have to do it but i had to try to find oh yeah no daniel and i didn't have anybody

helping me like uh swain got to do a hunter s thompson impression yeah but i had to try to mimic hermione anyway it was bad don't watch it go watch it but understand i know my accents all over the place speaking of all over the place the british empire yay hey there we go and the end of the world there we go the weather jonathan why don't you walk us through some of this uplifting climate change news. Is weather good? It has been a rough few weeks in terms of the old climate change happening everywhere. And things are really escalating. Prove it.

Prove that it's happening. We have been dealing in California with a really intense kind of historic heat wave we can talk more about that there are wildfires it's so fucking hot it's incredibly hot i know everyone's tired of watching california talk about this but sorry it's coming for you too just maybe in a different way yeah i mean just we can talk about any individual one of these things but just over the last month 50 million people were displaced in pakistan because of what's called a monsoon on steroids that has submerged a third of the country the official term at least no it's the scientists said that yeah at least 1300 people have died

there uh jackson mississippi didn't have running water for a while after torrential rain flooded the pearl river europe is facing its worst drought in 500 years china had a unprecedented heat wave recently uh there was an article that zombie ice from greenland is going to raise global sea levels 10 inches no matter what we do now rainwater is undrinkable just gonna toss that off there rainwater is undrinkable now the east mediterranean and the middle east could be devastated by climate change according to a new study it's a lot that is a lot so real quick just the uh rainwater is undrinkable now do plants and animals drink rainwater and do we eat those plants and animals yeah and is that is there a

is there a relationship between like us and and that are we are we still i don't know that we're acknowledging that but you know i i also can't speak to the data but i because i'm not any type of um scientist but but yeah of course those that those raindrops collect and just seems just seems like bad all around that like effects i don't know how that affects humans once it gets to us but you can assume that it i mean all the stories about the stuff we find in wastewater goes someplace yeah it's just like plants and animals can't read the news and find out that the rainwater is not drinkable well that's the rain we need you know well but we also need the it to feed the microplastics in our blood we actually need to

consume the um it's a symbiotic relationship so we need the chemicals in the rainwater feed the microplastics in our food, and thus the cycle can continue. Because otherwise our blood would grow angry and turn us into... I'm so glad you were here today to discuss this. I had no idea. Yeah, no, I am a scientist. A scientist. That's how scientists confidently say. exactly yeah i we're we're laughing here this is this is horrifying we wanted to cover some of this last week but there was a

lot to get through last week as well pakistan i don't even want to just gloss over that any of these i want all of these to have all the attention they deserve it's hard because there's so much going on but what's happening in pakistan and and oh, God, around the world and how this affects, you know, crops. And we also have a famine approaching in South Africa or here. You know, that's not directly climate change, but also, yeah, it is because climate change is affecting crops around the world. You know, there's just so much information and data one of the things i was reading about um for climate change because i pay too much attention to the end of the world the the heat wave in china is maybe the worst heat

wave in recorded history in the world and it uh one of the effects of it besides of course it's shutting down all of these factories because there's no electricity because they all run not all but huge areas rely on hydroelectric and the water is lower than it's ever been because of drought and some of those factories are the factories that create the solar panels and lithium batteries that we use to try and like make a green society move away from industrialization and then also uh one of the things that's being affected is their fertilizer production which is fertilizer that's used all over the world. And then another thing about things like what happened in Pakistan is that Pakistan had to take a $1.1 billion loan from the International Monetary Fund in order to try and deal with all these things.

But the International Monetary Fund is this incredibly predatory lending organization where basically people, countries will spend their entire rest of their country's existence until they overthrow the global world order of the United States, et cetera. I'm not trying to make a weird statement when I say global. Anyway. But one of the things that how that exasperates climate change is that a lot of these developing nations that take loans from the IMF, the way that they have to repay that is they have to dig up the fossil fuels that are under their soil to sell them to the first world. So this cycles badly. Continues. Yeah.

And I didn't know that. That's horrifying. It's horrifying. There it is right there in the name. I mean, you've touched on, you know, the fertilizer, all these things. They're like this. These these catastrophes happen and there is the immediate fallout. Over 1300 people are dead from the flooding. But, you know, and soil, all this stuff. But like that ruins crops that exacerbates other food insecurity around the world.

That is long lasting damage that they can't recover from economically or otherwise. It's okay. No, I don't. It's not okay. That was two different thoughts in one. I want to read this. This is Yahoo News. I don't know. But this little little tidbit about the Europe's drought, the worst drought in 500 years, that one. Receding water levels have uncovered artifacts from below the depths, including shipwrecks, world world war relics and hunger stones. Rocks placed throughout the centuries to mark water levels throughout historic droughts inscribed with warnings to future generations one of the oldest unearthed in the czech republic is believed to be from the 15th century the inscription on the stone reads if you see me then weep that's because the queen is gonna die because the queen is gonna die

bernie sanders birthday yeah and speaking of the rainwater undrinkable and climate change and all this, we're sitting here in this California heat wave, which is bad. But yes, China just had the – there's heat waves everywhere. And California is talking very loudly about it, but it's not just us. But the hottest day here, and i now live in the mountains at an elevation where it shouldn't be 105 fucking degrees i every morning i wake up and there's wildfire smoke from somewhere and i'm adjusting to that reality and to the acceptance of the fact that this place is beautiful and it might dramatically change tomorrow. It could appreciate

it while I have it and while I'm here. But on this hottest day, and I think that that's generally speaking a privileged thing because I'm up here in this mountains and these beautiful place to see it. But in general, something that I've been telling myself for a long time is use, use my body, go out and see things and experience what we have while we have it. Because I don't, I don't know what other answer, you know, but on this hottest day,

105 degrees where it shouldn't, I drive up the mountain to the lake, a couple thousand more, not too far. And it is 90 degrees up there, which it shouldn't be. And as I'm driving in this fast moving storm just blows in, in record. I've never seen anything like it. And the trees were whooshing. I thought trees could fall over. I get out of the car, just like, what is happening? And everybody's like battling their umbrellas, running to their cars.

And I run the opposite direction straight out into it because it's like so hot and it's still like 85 degrees and this rain and wind is whipping around. And I felt, I mean, well, the first thing I thought was don't open my mouth and drink the drink. Rainwater. And I was really grateful for the relief, but also incredibly saddened because that is not normal. This intense pressure system came through because of the intense heat causing, you know, it's all connected and it's not supposed to be happening yeah also that's incredibly dangerous weather for a fire if lightning struck something and that wind was whipping around anyway that's my anecdote from this week we did not break the grid though yeah i was wondering whether that was gonna happen yeah i mean we all uh i don't know if

you did katie where you are we all got texts i didn't get one somebody pointed out they sent a text like in it was in like the afternoon like just turn off stuff if you can and people did that's cool there's uh like a chart basically it's like yeah the text went out at like this time like 558 or 450 or something like that and then like the line just goes down consumption immediately drops um which i think is at least kind of neat like people are like oh i'll turn this stuff off yeah absolutely so and i just want to address i i tweeted because i woke up the next day and everyone was like fuck gavin newsom taking away our power I'm like yeah fuck Gavin Newsom fuck him but and also Gavin Newsom making this tweeting about it doesn't mean that Gavin Newsom exclusively made a decision about rolling blackouts or encouraging people to yeah yeah to conserve

energy but it's like everyone's so pissed you know when we avoided a situation like what happened in texas and also that wasn't gavin news and that was everybody pitching in together but it was like what are you talking about we avoided a situation where that could have been cast catastrophic if there was a real if we blew up the grid and some really really did it and people were without power for who knows how long that's a situation you want to avoid but yeah let's talk about the fact that we're in this situation let's talk about what we need to do to shore things up to protect ourselves you know it's i think a good sign that before a thing gets politicized so much so that one side has to do the opposite thing, you can ask people to do the right thing and they will. Yeah.

Yeah. Until it's culture war. Right. And so until like soon keeping on your air conditioner will be culture war. You have to keep it on to own the libs. Until that happens, people will do the right thing if they can yeah i learned something about the why drought and flood are so related every degree celsius that our temperature goes up the air is capable of holding like seven percent

more water moisture water moisture whatever and so because i was trying to figure out because it's like it seems like you know like d like Dallas was having incredible drought and then it had incredibly bad floods. And there's like and they're related in a bunch of ways. And one is that dry soil is worse at absorbing water. So when the rain comes in, of course, it washes away worse and, you know, less of it is recovered and going into the water table. And also just literally the air is busy holding more water and so that's why we have these like worse storms and everything yeah so i mean and i think that yeah that's really important because we're seeing that happen like you know in china this this heat wave well when the the

rains start to come what's next i mean same for us a few weeks ago i don't know was it a few weeks it was only a few weeks there was that story about story about California is due for a super flood and what that would look like and what it looked like last time or what it could look like. And you see what's happening in Pakistan. And we have got to accept and prepare for this. And I don't I don't know how we're going to do it. I know some like we're going to have all electrical cars by 2035. What are some small scale ways? Rainwater catchment is required and increasingly required in Arizona. And then there's entire island countries that it's required that all new buildings and all of them are getting retrofitted to use rainwater.

Even as it becomes undrinkable. You can filter rainwater. You can filter it. And also the people i know put it on their crops anyway and then don't do what margaret does but i also showered in rainwater for three years until about a year ago um you know i built a when i lived off grid i built a rainwater catchment and had a nice outdoor shower and showered in rainwater and whatever i didn't i a young healthy whatever a middle-aged healthy person didn't get sick kind of my language is changing this year i know we have to we're evolving yeah but yeah and and rainwater catchment is uh legal in almost every state colorado is like weird about it i always thought it was because

rainwater catchment was like affecting the the ecosystem but it's actually it's actually it's capitalism it's like it has to do with water rights and like who's bought water rights to different areas and it i'm sure it will have some kind of impact if you collect the rainwater or whatever but but that is a thing that people can start doing like individual resiliency can have impacts and times like in the same way that like individuals turning off all of their power you know when the text goes out actually impacts things. I'm a big prepper person. I literally run a prepper podcast.

So this is why I'm like having some backup batteries, having some access to solar. If it works in the kind of place you live, having some access to rainwater catchment, et cetera, is just like a it's not a bad idea. It doesn't fix everything on a global level doesn't stop global warming you know no but it can help you individually and within communities yeah and within right i might want to talk to you about more of this at some other time hit me up anytime i'm fascinated by it and i am thinking about solar what to do i have to get a generator yeah um i'm waiting for the power to go out for me which is a very regular thing up here and that's fine but um i live on a mountain too that's why i gotta do that yeah but there's nobody that i

i have not talked to anybody who has solar panels up here and i don't see any reason why not yeah in fact it would help me so in rainwater capture i don't know much about but i will look into it one thing that i saw that i haven't looked very much into, but seemed interesting. I'm not sure if you guys have seen this is a new, the first of its kind in California. I think in Modesto or Merced area where they are doing solar panels on top of water irrigation. It's like a water canals, youals you know to both generate energy but also prevent the evaporation yeah it's so cool and it's kind of like testing out and i was like yes yes so they're starting that now and i'm thrilled thrilled to see stuff like that yeah i get

excited about stuff like that although it's like there is this like awful you know i am i'm a proponent of uh solar and battery storage and stuff right but um copper mining and lithium mining are incredibly destructive and like so it's like there's no free lunch here you know but it's like yeah we need to reduce overall but it's still exciting when we figure out hacks like that yeah yeah i i know it hard. It's so hard. You switch to electric vehicles. Well, okay. Where are we getting the electricity? And so it's all a puzzle that we keep. Yeah, totally. I'm selfishly interested in the solar electric vehicles because I have solar on my house. So I'm like, free power. It's not even about the environment for me.

Well, yeah, that's a big deal the other part of it is like how do i save my money to prepare for what's coming yeah you know like like i don't want to be paying into these energy evil evil evil corporations that we rely on yeah to live i have so much to say on this one particular topic but i'll be quiet so we can move on no say you can talk about it we can talk about this the whole episode if we want well now now i feel bad because i didn't have a specific thing i was about to say no but yeah on the spot oh no but yeah like but i i do think that um building towards you know i think we have this problem where we view preparedness uh especially like the old sort of libertarian right wing conception of

prepping, where you get a bunker and you fill it with cans of food and you fill it with ammunition. And then like, I don't know what your question, you know, and then, then what, I don't know. But, you know, what do you do in your spleen bursts and you forget that we require a society in order to actually have the specializations necessary to keep us alive and healthy. And that freedom is actually a thing that we give to each other rather than

a static thing that we have as individuals alone in the woods. I would not be very free alone in the woods because all I would be doing is trying not to die. Right. But I think that individual preparedness and resiliency and community resiliency is a part of this like larger picture of, you know, whenever possible, if you are capable of gardening, right. Gardening, small scale gardening does not meet the caloric needs of our society, right? At the moment, the caloric needs of our society are met through both animal agriculture and large scale grain, right? Corn and wheat and all that stuff. And that's hard to replicate on an individual level. But you know what, if you are still able to get like some of your meat production, if you do that whole thing, or some of your vegetables and some of whatever locally, whether it's as you as

an individual or like a community wide thing, that helps reduce the pressure on the equivalent of the electrical grid only but for food, right. And because we're having this thing where two different states, I can't remember, it's like Oklahoma and somewhere else, are having 30% and 50% failure of the wheat harvest this year. And so even though wheat prices are through the roof because of the Russian war against Ukraine, the farmers are still losing money because they don't, even though the little they have, they can sell more. It doesn't matter if they only can sell that more you know it doesn't matter if they only offset yeah yeah and of course most of that doesn't go towards the bread that you and i eat most of that goes towards the um the cattle and things like that that people eat and so um i i'm

vegan but i'm not trying to push for a vegan world um but i do think it's a there's all of these ways that we can like reduce our resiliency and i i hate i used to hate this kind of answer because i hate the idea that it's the individual's responsibility to fix a systemic problem um but i think that this can coordinate with systemic things i think that we can move away from what you're what you're just talking about katie about like our reliance on these systems that we despise so that's what i get excited about like i and i agree i i get very frustrated when the conversation is like what can i do when it's like obviously yeah the the problem is so much bigger than the individual totally and yet like we saw in terms of everybody deciding to

turn limit their power usage that you can individually have some sort of an effect. Sure. Maybe in certain, maybe not in, in all the other ways, but I can, I can, um, reduce my dependence. I can make my life better. I can do my little part for myself and save some money while I'm doing that and not participate. And I know that that's a lot of people say, well, I don't want to have to sacrifice if it doesn't mean anything. And if it's in,

and I think that maybe the reframing is not seeing it as a sacrifice, just seeing it as an adjustment of the way you live your life, that the benefits include more than just maybe quote, maybe doing your part. The benefits are better for you individually yeah yeah it has meaning for you yeah i guess we can talk about something else before we end well we were going to talk about um special masters and nuclear documents but i think we're going to end on something a little bit more fun jonathan why don't you walk us through the latest and the very important don't worry darling drama sure i put together i can't believe we're talking about this well i do think there's things to talk about in terms of like how this became like up until this morning the thing

that everyone was talking about and had to to comment oh i'd almost forgotten about the queen but then you reminded me oh don, don't worry. Sorry. I'm so, so, so sorry to do that to you. Oh, did Olivia Wilde kill the queen, too? Mm-hmm. I don't even know. Should I go through this whole background? Because the Shia LaBeouf stuff, and then leading up to this. Well, that's a big part of it,

right? Like, at least the tension, it seems like, stems from that. It also stems from Jasonason sudekas and real quick as quick as i can here's what happened there's a movie called don't worry darling that olivia wilde who directed book smart is directing she originally cast shia labeouf in a role before he was or i guess after he was accused of domestic abuse in a recent variety interview ol Olivia Wilde said that LaBeouf was fired from the film. But then Shia LaBeouf disputed that.

Emailed a bunch of media outlets. And shared evidence including texts and emails. Suggesting that he quit the project. Because of a lack of rehearsal time. There is also a leaked video that shows Olivia Wilde. Like on her phone. Asking Shia LaBeouf to stay on the project. During which she says.

I think this might be a bit of a wake upup call for Miss Flo referring to Florence Pugh the star of the movie so I'll just interject saying that this shows that Olivia Wilde was maybe lying about her and pitting right yeah so there's that she then casts her boyfriend Harry Styles in that role in the movie and there's been speculation about when that relationship started given her much hyped and publicized separation from jason sudekis who is friends with florence pew this is all background and so this may have precipitated the olivia wilde florence pew tension because apparently they had a falling out on set and there were rumors that florence pew had to step in and direct because she was off being in love with Harry Styles. I love that thing with Harry Styles.

Eternals star Harry Styles is probably good at... Anyway. So after all that, we get to the Venice Film Festival where the movie is premiering. Florence Pugh is not showing up for the press conference. They say because she is shooting dune 2 however timothy chalamet who is the star of dune 2 is there and he's in his like red thing also there's all these pictures of florence pew at the same time as that whatever she's at working just at in venice drinking aperol spritz like she was just drinking to make it very clear we addressed addressed the little buff of it all earlier.

It seems as though Florence Pugh specifically, specifically was like, I don't want to work with him because of this abuse allocation. I'm uncomfortable. There are all these like sex scenes and things going on. I don't want to work with this man. And that's what led to her being like,

oh, i fired him and like that was a lie he actually quit and so and so there's this tension because she didn't want to work with this accused abuser and the director didn't care and i think before we before we go to it i think that this is once we get through i'll give all my thoughts but yes there is something that is so frustrating especially when uh oh you know a woman that is a feminist or you know is up up here championing based based the main character one of the characters on jordan peterson allegedly but like is so fake is fake the thing about the video coming out is it's like okay well you are just saying things that you don't mean

but on the other side of this is like this is all like Shia LaBeouf who's not part of the movie probably leaking stuff and it is very and trying to use like it was the the video had hashtag times up Olivia on it and that is very striking to use

that hashtag for your yeah i'm calling out some celebrity for lying like that's very gross yes um and it's like gross behavior and stuff yeah we haven't even gotten to chris pine yet so like so then we're now we're at the venice film festival and there's all these memes and images of Chris Pine coming out where he is like, seems either disinterested or a little bit eye-rolly about some of the things

that Harry Styles is saying because it seems like Harry Styles maybe is discovering what acting is like in real time. So people are making fun of that. And then there's a video. The clips are wonderful. If you haven't seen them,

go watch. It's very funny to hear Harry Styles talk about how the movie feels like a movie and then look at Chris Pine's face and see him kind of like choke slightly it's neat did one of them spit on the other one

or something no don't be we're all waiting for this moment. Right. So this culminates in this moment where they're sitting down waiting for the premiere and Harry Styles is sitting down next to Chris Pine and he kind of like leans his head down at the exact same time that Chris Pine stops applauding and like seems to react to something. Unknown what he is reacting to.

Well, he looks down into his lap and then kind of goes like that half laugh. It looks like a disbelief laugh and shakes his head. Yes, it is a very strange image. There's no real indication that he spat on him like that. I kept rewinding it. It does look like it. There's some odd motion. There is definitely.

Harry is walking up, leans over Chris Pine's lap. Chris Pine looks down, goes, ah. And like... But also... But it could be anything. It would be extremely weird if Harry Styles spit on Chris Pine. It would be extremely weird. That's the other part.

It would be extremely weird. But this says... I mean, look, you guys can all discuss like what this says about like celebrity gossip and our fascination with this, that this became another. Yeah. This became like the dress over a day. Yeah. I don't know. Or Trump became a Trump getting COVID over a day.

Yeah. It's, I have complicated thoughts on this story. I mean, like by the time Venice Film Festival came around, I really stopped touching it. I felt very frustrated. I have a beloved text thread with a bunch of wonderful people, but they're all entertainment. Not but they are and they are entertainment related. So when there is entertainment related stuff like this, you know, gossip gets tends to come down in there. And it's it's interesting but i also tend to step back

a bit because i i feel a frustration with our preoccupation with people that are probably all toxic like i you know this it all started with we barely mentioned he's she's separated from jason sudakis and there are lots of different stories and ideas that maybe he is abusive or in some different. How I can't speak to it because I don't know. But this is. And the idea that she was served while on stage and everybody was upset and about that. And I said, I don't know. I don't know if he had that much control over it.

He might have. And they're like, she said he didn't. I'm like, yeah, I know that that's what she said. I mean, like, but but but my and like, and maybe maybe he did have control and could serve her on stage. But I guess my point is, we don't know these people. And I don't want to be sitting here, you know, drafting a narrative out of headlines that come down the pipeline. So I purposely ignored a lot of this. But then the Venice Film Festival stuff happened and it was impossible not to because it's wild. It's wild to see it just keep going and going. But the bigger conversation to me, yes, we touched upon it is I think that Olivia, maybe she's problematic. I don't know. Maybe a inappropriate workplace relationship started uh maybe she's fake as hell and you know was trying to cover with a line about why shia labeouf left the project maybe all that's true but men in this

industry have been doing far worse things for a very long time. And we don't we do not ring the bells. We do not sound the alarms. We do not ever treat a female, a male direct, a male director like this. And that is just objectively true. And it's a bummer that it's distracting from like the movie. I know it got a big standing ovation but i've also heard that it's not very good and i also know that this script was a blacklist script and i'm sure that they paid out the original authors writers but then they bring in other people you know that they pay a

ton more money and they change the script and oftentimes for the worse. And that's the thing. The original writers, sorry to interrupt. The original writers, Dick Van Dyke's grandsons. Wow. Didn't I know that. I feel like they might have more of a leg up than most other people on the blacklist. Yeah.

I was going to say good for them, but like, well. Blacklist is like, so actually to me, that's the conversation about this. And, and by the time it got to Venice,

it was like a little bit caught up in the drama of it because when you lay it out but also that's frustrating there's all these articles about like play by play minute by minute but florence was actually here doing this and then she arrived here and posted this her hairstylist posted this picture of her and yeah yeah what are we doing do you know can't we just enjoy that harry styles spit on chris pine can we enjoy that unequivocally uh spit on one yeah definitely happened and definitely happened the way that i learned about it um i spent a lot of my time in zoom meetings and sometimes you do the go-around question and the go-around question when

i was in was what pop star would you be? If you could be any pop star and someone said I would be Chris Pine so that Harry Styles could spit on me. So this is how I learned who... Actually, I still don't know who Chris Pine is. He's pretty cute. Chris Pine is having a great week. He's having a moment.

He's being memed in a way where everyone is like admiring him it's yeah the charming meme he's like staying out of it right although he's like um i think he's i don't know he's one of those guys they're like these they're there's like a brand of actor who's like oh you're like you're a handsome man you're like a leading man handsome man but also you're just like kind of a weirdo and you want to do like weird stuff like you want to be a character actor but unfortunately you're too handsome for us as a society to allow that i think brad pitt is another one where it's like you just want to be a weirdo like that's your deal true romance just yeah like

all these sort of things where it's like oh yeah sorry you can't you gotta be you gotta like that's your deal true romance just yeah like burn after reading he's incredible and all these sort of things where it's like oh yeah sorry you can't you gotta be you gotta be a you gotta be like a failure to launch romantic comedy kind of guy or uh something like that uh so good for him for uh finally like being able to be a little weirdo sorry to everybody for talking about this but i'm glad we got that out of our system yeah i'm also sorry i'm gonna uh what do you guys see that movie now not i wasn't gonna see the movie before now i'm kind of fascinated i'll torrent the movie you know i do remember liking book smart that's irrelevant do you ever feel like the whole thing is scripted like like wrestling well yeah i actually i almost i almost said that but stopped myself because i was like i don't know

but yeah when i look probably but i look at the way the venice film festival because then then there's the kiss nick kroll and harry hairstyles kissed nick kroll and then there's all this drama of like are harry styles and olivia wilde broken up because they won't stand next to each other on these things and like who cares harry styles spit on chris pine that's all that's the only thing that matters but like part of me is like this has been so drawn out and gone on for so long are they just leaning into it and letting it but no it. We're talking about it. Florence Pugh is the only one that walks out of this looking good. And Chris Pine.

Chris Pine. The winners. We could rank them. It's not really our thing, but we could rank how everyone. We could. Yeah. We're not gonna.

We're not gonna. We'll let you guys decide for yourself at home that does it for us this week we had some fun we had some laughs we talked about things margaret this was really wonderful we would love to have you back anytime you want yeah anytime you're busy though i'm not sure why you'd be clamoring to come back you've got two podcasts but, but we would love it. You know, it's easier to do other people's podcasts than your own. It is, isn't it? Yeah. It's always such a treat. You're like, I just get to react a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

You brought some hard hitting facts that we really appreciate and desperately needed. Can you please plug yourself where we can find you online? All the good things. Yeah. If you want more of these hard-hitting facts uh live like the world is dying is my podcast for what feels like the end times um and i learned those facts while researching an episode every month we do it this month in the apocalypse episode and i got the one i was the one who was tasked with the climate change stuff so you can find me at live like the world is Dying. You can also listen to me at Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff. You can hear Katie Stoll on that and possibly some of these other people in the future. I haven't told them that yet.

And it was really fun. I had a great time. And you can find me on Twitter at Magpie Killjoy or Instagram at Margaret Killjoy. And oh, I have a book coming out. I have a book that comes out September 20th from AK press. It's called, we won't be here tomorrow. Not everything I do is themed around the apocalypse, but a lot of things are. Well, it's life fuels your art. Yeah. And it's, it's science fiction and fantasy about Nerdy Wells.

And I don't know, it was like a trans girl who feeds Rob's men and then feeds them to her mermaid lover. Oh, I can't wait for this. Is it available for pre-order yet? It is available for pre-order. I'm going to go do that. And you can get a free art print if you pre-order it.

I'm going to do that today. Do it. Cool. Well, this has been wonderful. I've had fun discussing the end of the world with you guys. Hey, you know what? Hey. Hi.

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