Some More News - The Uvalde, Texas School Shooting

Episode Date: May 27, 2022

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Hello and welcome back to even more news the first and only news podcast my name my friends it's katie stole my name my friends is not it's cody johnston hi hey yes it is hi uh no guests this week just our beloved jonathan who i'm going to have to tell you guys, made us start over because our first intro was so bad. And he was right. He was right. I politely encouraged a starting over. I don't make you do anything. He demanded it.

You demanded it. You said, you know what? I'm just going to say this. And you were right. You were fine about it. Chroming at the mouth. You were polite. Like always.

He's regretting it now because we're putting him on blast, but we're just having fun. No, that's okay. No one will hear it. My angry tirades at both of you end up on the cutting room floor. Yeah, you just have to trust us. Boy, gosh, golly, darn dang it. Today is some holidays. It is May 26th.

It's World Dracula Day day oh okay okay suggested ways to celebrate include read brom stoker's dracula and plan a dracula inspired trip i don't know maybe those are very far apart suggestions yeah like one of these two things like read or like yeah like watch dracula okay so you're going to plan this Dracula trip? Are you planning it for next World Dracula Day? Well, yeah, unless you're a frequent celebrator, in which case you would be prepared, obviously, for May 26th, which is World Dracula Day.

I already knew that. I didn't have to look it up again. Okay, we've mined this for all it's worth. May 27th. National Sunscreen Day, guys. You know what I'm going to say? Is wear sunscreen every day. You know who needs sunscreen?

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It all comes back to Dracula day, Katie. I don't know how to make it more clear. I'm trying so hard to move on from Dracula. I know, but the days won't let you move on from Dracula Day. I'm stuck in this calendar. Sorry. You got to fly to Budapest and then rent a car from there to take your Dracula-inspired trip, though.

What are the gas prices in Budapest? Thanks, Brandon. Probably high. I would imagine. I would just guess. Thank you, Brandon. I know I'm the research guy and I don't have gas prices

in Hungary right now. Well, why would you? One more holiday. Oh my God, another one? May 27th. There's so many holidays. There's always a reason to celebrate, guys.

That's what I'm trying. If there's one thing I need you to learn from our show it's that there's always a reason to celebrate guys that's what i'm trying there's one thing i need you to learn from our show is that there's always a reason to celebrate okay okay happy national grape popsicle day fuck you no we're not celebrating grape popsicle day it has nothing to do with dracula and it's too specific popsicle day maybe you could make is it too specific i don't know actually once you complete that uh great popsicle you can use the stick from the Popsicle day maybe You could make Is it too specific? Oh actually once you complete that Great popsicle you can use the stick from the popsicle To stab Dracula to kill him

There we go okay all four did it Also he's kind of shaped like a great Popsicle cause he's long And frozen Or like cold Yeah he's got like some purpley tones Yeah yeah We are talking about a specific Dracula,

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we know about. I mean, just looking online at the stories, which we're going to get into, seeing people share stories about their high schools being on lockdown, how someone was shot right outside their school. This happens all the time. This is a reality of our children's experience in this world. They grow up being taught to hide under desks, how to be smart and defend themselves. This is fucked up. So some details to jump off from. Shooter is an 18-year-old who had legally purchased two rifles and 375 rounds of ammunition just within a week of his 18th birthday. He crashed his truck into a fence and walked into an elementary school. He was not stopped by anybody, including the cops that were apparently present.

Yeah, well, so even that is, I mean, there's so much to get into about the reporting because their story changes every few hours. It changed right before we started and I tried to update update like here's the latest that they're saying um like they it seems like uh some law enforcement official like made up a guy uh who is not there and didn't interact with the shooter at all and it's like there there are so many conflicting stories not and like the stories are conflicting from law enforcement.

It's not even like... Wait a minute. Jonathan, I didn't notice this note before. The shooter fired shots outside the building for 12 fucking minutes? For motherfucking 12 minutes? That's the latest reporting that shot know shot his grandmother that he shot at two people coming out of a funeral home around the corner they got away uninjured then he crashes his car at the school and he it fires he lingered outside the school for 12 minutes firing shots

before walking into the school now we know the for or now we think we know the first cops on the scene came several minutes later, tried opening the door to the school where they say engaged with fire from the suspect immediately and then went out where they proceeded to, what, wait for the next- That's what they're saying now,

a completely different story than what they said before. So that is like the latest story here and yes it just wildly different from the idea of being engaged right away by either a school resource officer or two other cops who they say shot at him or back and forth like right and maybe three were injured but maybe not i tried really hard to find out if there were still confirmed reports of two cops being injured and could not do it. I'm not. I haven't seen anything. Yeah, no, there's no.

That's the thing with a lot of these. A lot of that would be a leading line in every article. A lot of the reporting initially in all these sort of cases are either come from people on the ground or from just official police statements. And it just seems like the police weirdly, like, I mean, lie. They all,

they're always going to lie about these sorts of things, but it's, it's especially weird because a lot of the initial lies from the police are not like good stories. Like it's not, it doesn't make them, it makes them look incompetent and bad. And the stories that have been coming out since then that correct those or addendums to them make them look worse.

And it's just a very weird situation of like the thing that always happens, which is like, well, yeah, the cops are going to lie to make themselves look good. And they couldn't even come up with good lies to make their behavior seem acceptable. So, yeah, it's very hard to know exactly what happened beyond like the videos that we're seeing outside of them. So we can talk about some of that, including videos of parents begging, begging to be let inside. begging, begging to be let inside. And cops restraining them, reports of people being handcuffed and prevented from going to save their children. And when the cops finally did go in,

tased, when the cops finally did go in, they found their children and removed them first. Yeah, that seems to be the... One mother broke through, or father, I can't remember, did, and after they restrained it went through anyway and found her children. Yeah, no, she was restrained and then she got free and then went inside and got her kids. You know, just like and we'll talk about this later with the Republican response. I just wish there was some honesty here. If the cops were being honest, they'd say we're local police officers in this small town

we were scared we opened the door and heard gunshots and then we thought we can't handle this we need to wait outside for this tactical unit or whatever and fine you know if that's the case say that but then you don't get to take 40 of uvaldi's budget then you don't you know like you you are either these the the brave people we entrust to protect us or you're not and if you're not and you want to write tickets and file paperwork and be the person you call when you know you have to prove you got in a car accident so you can file an insurance claim, fine. But then you don't get billions of dollars every year in our tax dollars.

We have to stop. With your military toys and like... Yeah. And that's what's so upset. That's what's ringing so true about this because it happens all the time. And we have to stop pretending there's John mcclain out there like of course it's scary of course those cops were afraid to like run in and risk their lives if you're not

protecting children what are you doing yeah if we're not paying you to keep babies safe what the fuck are you doing well that's and we've you know we've talked about this on this and the other show a few times, but like, you know, the training that cops receive is Jonathan, what you're talking about, like, oh're the line of defense. That's why they shoot so many unarmed black people. That is a huge part of their, how they view themselves as these warriors, like warrior training. And they use it in those situations, but they don't when it really, really matters. When, Katie, like you're saying, like babies's lives are on the line. And where are you? You're outside, tasing parents who are actually brave enough to go in there or teacher, you know, teachers who are brave enough to put their lives on the line for their students. Did they get 40% of that budget? No, they don't. They get called get called no they get called groomers and they can't

actually in in policed on what they can teach your children in order to make them healthy human beings that understand the society empathetic people that understand the world where we're in and understand how to navigate it no we we constrain you and we restrain you and we don't give you any of the supplies that you need. But hey, maybe if you buy a fucking gun, you can also be a bodyguard. I want to talk about the responses that we've seen. But first, a little bit more about the lives that have been affected

because that's what all of this is about. That's the whole fucking point these were children they were all between the ages of seven and ten i mean i can't i i we don't know i have all of the children's names listed the two teachers i'm sorry i'm having a hard time it's okay i'm shaken by that story of the medic i told you this right before we started recording the medic who showed up at the scene and a girl little girl comes running out covered in blood and he asks if she's okay and she says she's fine her best friend is dead her best friend amory and that medic was heartbroken because that's his little girl that was his baby girl

and they wouldn't let him go in and find her um it's so fucking sad um right before we started recording um one of the teachers who died

Irma Garcia her husband of 24 years, 25 years, had a heart attack coming from her memorial service. And they have four children. This is so much bigger. I mean, obviously the lives that were lost. But this is devastating for an entire community of people. Two sets of cousins. Two sets of little baby cousins died next to each

other. And I'm sitting in my grief this week because we brushed through them so fast. Like I can't even remember half the school shootings, you know, that have happened in this country. And Jonathan, your wife is a a teacher my sister-in-law is a teacher my nephew is in kindergarten my children my friends are all having children right now and how do we navigate this i don't i don't know i don't know how a person sends their kid to school and doesn't think that at some point in their lives there's a good chance that um they're at least gonna have to go through a drill um okay sorry guys no one needs to hear me crying about it i just i've been angry for a lot of different

reasons this week a lot of different reasons this week, a lot of it reflecting what you've said. And that's why every new statement from the police kind of gets to me because, you know, they're trying to justify their actions. And they said, well, by the time we got there, we think he had gone in and done most of the shooting already. You know, they're trying to say there's nothing we could have done. But those kids, some of those kids might have been alive yeah you know and they're sitting there for an hour i mean there's the one kid there's a clip going around social media right

now of a kid who made it he's quick thinking in there and he's telling the story of what happened and someone outside says, do you guys need help? And the little girl says yes and the shooter killed her. That's an example of, no, he was in there actively killing children while they stood outside. while they stood outside. Another, Amory, I believe, is the one who was trying to call 911 and he shot her. The cops were outside already.

She didn't know that. Maybe she did. Which is why it's such bullshit when someone says it could have been worse. That's what I was about to pivot to. Perfect. I wasn't trying. No, no, no.

You're we are. Our minds are in the same spot. Later that day or yesterday, Governor Greg Abbott is up there at a press conference saying that things could have been a lot worse. And it's just. It's hard to believe that's true, man. There have been a lot of very predictable and nauseating responses to this. Let's not make it political, y'all. Maybe we're making Sandy Hook and El Paso political now.

Has enough time. Has enough time passed for us to talk about those? Yeah, we're talking about those now and making those political. Yeah, we're not talking about this one. You know, and they talk a lot about, you know, the standard talking points when something like this happens. You know, mental health or, you know, what are the parents like? And should we have armed teachers and cops in schools? and cops in schools, and yet they don't have any response, literally walking away,

refusing to acknowledge the data that other countries don't have this problem. Why is it unique to us? Why is it only here? I mean, there are lots of things, sure, that we can talk about that are progressive, talk about health care and quality of life for people. But the guns are killing people. That's what they're for. Semi-automatic rifles are killing people. And there are more guns in this country than there are people. Oh, and then I love, should we talk about doors i guess yeah um well then you also have like governors like greg abbott who when you know they get uh the number two

they're number two in gun sales and so he tweets we gotta buy more guns get out there and buy more guns it's something he tweeted like seven eight years ago i think so when a lot of these kids were being born i'm sorry this is like the first time i've like talked at length about this out loud so i it's hard to get beyond just the horror and sadness of what actually happened. Well, because it feels hopeless. We've had these conversations. Yeah, I just remember being, I think, probably like a freshman in high school during Columbine. And it's just like every single time since then,

it's horrific every time. And it's the same conversation every time. And it's just hard to think that anything will change about this beyond what a lot of these freaks want to do which is just like turn schools into prisons even more that's their solution to it yeah the big solution and like it just that like this vision of like america in 15 years and you go to school and it is just like yeah there's cops everywhere just everywhere and like will it make fewer shootings or will there just be more and there'll be more violent because there are gonna be cops there who fucking like shoot kids and like arrest them um all the time because i don't i'm not even making sense sorry they know it won't work

they know it's a joke. They know very well the one thing that makes the United States an outlier in this, right? They know other countries have mental health. We can make these arguments to them. They know.

They just don't care. It's a worthwhile sacrifice to them. Right. They won't be honest and just come out and say, we like having these things. We think it's a lot of fun. This is our like hobby. Yeah, it's a little cute we like having these things we think it's a lot of fun this is our like yeah it's a little cute little hobby this is right we think it's fun

or that i hypothetically might need it to fight against the tyrannical government or whatever the hell they think yeah don't tread on me so they don't care they think it's a worthwhile they think it's a perfectly fine sacrifice um and like it's what like we don't we we want you to we want more guns because that's freedom is freedom having like a cop every 50 feet everywhere like watching you to like what like is that the society you want to live in the kids that are afraid of yeah and and we know what cops on campus means, like harassing black and brown kids. Yeah, no, there's data on that too, like that you get cops in schools and it's just, it leads to what happens when cops are like elsewhere in society.

And then the other big solution that has been floated by multiple people than tim pool apparently uh is homeschooling you know we should just homeschool your children yeah tim tim pool great example of like the benefits of homeschooling do you even understand what you're saying what that means to parents what expense that is uh the lack of opportunity to be in the workforce and weren't you just a few months ago everybody up in arms about our poor children needing to be back at school for socialization yeah i yeah they were boil also um many many i don't have the number in front of me many people who uh commit acts like this have a history of domestic violence yes so i don't know if there's like something about like

that maybe like not i mean there's definitely something about that all your kids but yes the greatest country in the world everybody just educate your children by yourselves but this is i mean this is just what they always like they want it's all like they want to abolish like schools public school um and the department of education in general um and they want cops everywhere that's what they want so their solution is well okay homeschool your kids we should just get rid of public schools we shouldn't have them because they're dangerous now they weren't they are now so that's the reason to get rid of them um and yeah and they want cops everywhere they want to increase the budgets even more so they can get even more money and still not fucking do their jobs the vision of the world that they want to live in is horrifying yeah to me yeah it is a it is a horrifying dis more dystopian

future than what we live in right now where there aren't any public schools and the ones that are are like a like you said like a prison like a steel cage it's well because like again like they it's they they always couch these they're like politics and like the idea of freedom but if you go like down like down the line of like the logical conclusion to a lot of things they're suggesting it's like is that the freedom that you want um it there's one entrance and exit to a school and there's cops everywhere that's freedom to you well also I just have to point out that one entrance and exit to a school is a huge hazard for fires or literally any kind of an emergency situation. I want to get to that, too.

But like, do you feel free if you're thinking, if I go to the mall, maybe I'll get shot. If I go to the mall, maybe I'll get shot. If I send my child, my very, very young child to school, maybe they'll die today. Is that like the freedom that you want? Is that like, shouldn't we also have some freedom of those constant thoughts and fears that are grounded in reality? Because it's true, happens all the time. that are grounded in reality because it's true happens all the time there have been some attempts to minimize what happened by putting it in larger context and there's that i didn't even include this here because i was like i'm not going to share every stupid tweet i see but it's been

bothering me uh that writer dan mclaughlin wrote you know in the total numbers of mass shootings, the number of people who die in mass shootings are relatively few. More people die a year from choking on bed sheets and die from toasters and stuff. Oh, baseball credit. He was sharing that. Yeah, baseball guy. And I was thinking, like, do you really want to go there and talk about, because you would think that it's to the rights benefit not to talk

about how many people really die from guns in this country every year because you're right the mass shootings are a relatively small piece of this huge pie where 40 000 people die every year and 40 what was it 4 300 kids it's become the leading cause of death for kids and teenagers. Yeah. Yeah. The leading cause of death is by getting shot. No other country has that.

It's hard. It's absurd. It's so tricky because gun ownership is baked into the DNA of this country. I don't like it. But that is a fact that people have grown up in parts of this country.

And this part of their identity, it's like taking out the trash. You've got your gun. Some people use their gun for survival. Some people use it for food some people live alone in the woods and are old and that's protection that's a different fucking conversation i'm not i'm not worried about the old man with the hunting rifle i'm not worried about them either and that's but it gets, my point is, is that it gets conflated.

So when we're talking about this problem with people who know that they've got their hunting rifle or whatever it is that they have, and it's a part of their idea of being an American, that is no place in the conversation, actually, about semi-automatic rifles,

background checks, about all the different things that we can do that make gun ownership safer, that make this country safer without taking away. And we allow the media to talk about it in these terms or the right-wing media, these broad scopes that scare people. And like, look, would I wish that all guns are gone? Yeah, I don't want them. We're talking about common sense things. And I think that a lot of people agree with that with

that part oh yeah absolutely then the self-defense has come up of like yeah but you know that all democrats want to take away all our guns we want to save people's lives we want to take we want to reduce murders how can we work together on that i do think the heller decision from what 2008 i think really like inflated this thing and and kicked the second amendment conversation to another level yeah well that's been yeah happening slowly uh where it's like slowly turned into this individual right thing it just mean that like you talk to people with guns and they don't want their guns to be mean that like you talk to people with guns and they don't want their guns to be taken away but you talk to people at school shooting and they're

like it's awful it's awful and i even had a conversation with a conservative recently i was like well i don't think having guns in the school is the answer and they were like no it definitely isn't you know so it's not like this person's definitely didn't is pro guns, wants their guns, also thinks this is a fucking problem. address because also you're gonna have you know uh what the aside like again we'll get to the fucking door thing it's so it's maddening but you know usually it's like okay we're gonna uh we should arm teachers well that's uh ridiculous um also are you gonna pay you're gonna pay start paying teachers uh 40 of the budget uh if you start arming them no newt gingrich newt gingrich said they should get 500 a month like a stip, to go through training and then be armed. I think he said that.

Well, Newt Gingrich can go fuck himself and then take a picture of it and use a soft filter to make his face look smooth. God damn it. I'm always like, he's still alive? I text with him, so I'll let him know you said that. Please do. Good Lord. You might be thinking of Rush Limbaugh. Part of this different limb is the same fucking beast.

And then, obviously, you're going to have a bunch of, if you're not saying we should have one door, you're saying mental health is an issue. It's only ever when this happens that they ever say that. And they don't even know what they mean when they say it. What are the what are the actual like mental health policies that you're advocating for in response to this what are you going to do about it are you going to make it like more available and maybe free for people are you going to do like anything because we're going to have that conversation and like i like i see somebody like we need to bring back like uh it's like they just want to institutionalize

people that's what it is. And we tried that. Any answer but the obvious one. Yeah. All these fake solutions that they don't actually believe. And like, you know, like Ted Cruz, like all the third part of it is that, well, a in this situation, they can't say, well, we need like more cops necessarily because what did they fucking do? need like more cops necessarily because what did they fucking do even when they ended up going inside apparently they got a little girl killed because they said to shout when they got in there so even if they're not waiting 40 minutes to go inside once they go inside they fuck up

really badly mere months ago they'd done like a whole walkthrough an emergency plan kind of situation in case there was a shooting also also sure everything you said about mental health i agree this teenager was by all accounts seemingly disturbed he had a hard life he was bullied had been coming aggressive there had been threatening things he literally posted on facebook 30 minutes before that he was going to go shoot up in elementary school granted i'm not saying that that is something that someone would have seen and acted upon in that window of time but i'm saying that there were warning signs so yeah if you want to keep talking about mental health or warning signs that he was in pain, whatever, domestic, right? And again, like domestic abuse, maybe like that should be like a factor in whether or not you're able to buy a gun or hold a gun. Speaking of cops, they can't say the cop thing because, well, what happened?

So they're going with this fucking door scenario. happened so they're going with this fucking door scenario also because like ted cruz for example needs to be able to say like well i i was steadfast and like i get that you know and second amendment because he wants to run for president and he needs to be able to say that um it's just this floundering like like, say anything. We got to say something, literally anything. And, uh, they're going with the one door idea. So we'll see if that works. On that note, we're going to take a quick break and then we will be back for even more terrible news.

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And this is an easy one because it's fucking stupid and bullshit posturing. The first video I saw of it was incredible. It's Ted Cruz, and he's very, very full of shit. He's trying very hard to seem angry. He's been doing that a lot the past couple days and it's rarely transparent every time i have that clip if you want uh let's do it okay fine too late sorry do you want to talk about how we could have prevented the horror that played out across the street look the killer entered here the same way the killer entered santa fe through a back door an unlocked back door

i sat down at round tables with with the families from Santa Fe. We talked about what we need to do to harden schools, including not having unlocked back doors, including not having unlocked doors to classroom, having one door that goes in and out of the school, having armed police officers at that one door. I just I need to highlight once again his fake anger which he's so bad he's so bad he's such a bad actor his his furrowed brow yeah his political theater uh leaves something to be desired maybe he's not the golden state killer and the great actor that i thought he was all along. Maybe he should have done a little more theater so he would know that, I don't know, there are side doors and you need an entrance

to the auditorium to get sets in or something. I don't know. This is a really poorly sewn together joke about the fucking one door idea. There's another clip of him from today. Some British reporter is asking him a very good question about why is this the only place that this happens? America, the United States of America, is the only place where this happens all the

fucking time. And why is that? Why does he think that is? And he couldn't answer it. And he got real mad he got he puffed up his chest um one of the quest like parts the question was like isn't that you know isn't that aspect of um american exceptionalism bad isn't that like bad for us like the word the only person like country that does that he got like puffed up his chest he got

in that reporter's face like american are you saying american exceptionalism is bad we're the best country in the world people come here from here from all over to live here because we're the we got the most freedom and prosperity blah blah blah and it's like getting so like offended and hurt because someone like criticized america when all these fucking kids got shot like it's so it's so disgusting america being a good place for people to come and live again nothing or the thing that keeps fucking happening it our right to bear arms doesn't make america good it It makes America a blight. People talk about us across the world. Aren't you afraid to live there? Yeah, we are.

Yeah, no, it's a complete misrepresentation of even like the view of this place. And like, yeah, compared to like, you know, many people come here for many different reasons. That's still true. But this is a problem that people know about and it and you can't you can't just say like well people keep people still try to come here so it's actually fine okay they come here despite it because things are bad places yeah but the question is why does this only happen in america and he uh only knows how you know, get the bluster going and defend America's right to be the best. It's very, again, it's like this very transparent, like, I know, I know I'm supposed to like defend America and like we're the best country in the world. And I can't like engage honestly about this. So I have to pretend to be mad. And his pretend rage is like half. It's like one part like embarrassing one part frustrating one part really grotesque and then another part embarrassing again but the idea of only again it's like this

you want to do one fucking door i have also seen people be like well actually like it's one door like there's like one door is an entrance and you can have like all these fire exits and stuff like it's fine to have like have these exits that are locked from the outside like we have all these examples of this he didn't say that first like first of all we'll get to that part of it but like he didn't say that he said one door in and out one door in and out is what he said and the armed cop stands there but apparently doesn't go inside if there's an emergency. Yeah, literally the quote is having one door that goes in and out of schools. Earlier today, the lieutenant governor of Texas, Dan Patrick, went on Fox News. And here's the quote. There should be one entrance in and one entrance out in all of our elementary and all of our middle schools.

First of all, an entrance out is called an exit buddy so get your fucking words right but also they're not saying that they're saying one in one place to go in and out that's what they're saying and you want cops there every fucking day so we're gonna 60 of the budget now i guess goes to cops so we can have a guy stand at the front door and then I guess like bumble around and let a school shooter in while he bothers parents who want to save their kids. It's just like it's just the laziest idea to solve a problem that, again, only happens here. to solve a problem that again only happens here do they need to have one entrance in and one exit out in these in other countries is that how they do it there was a shooting i don't know if you heard recently at a grocery store is that like how are we are we going to make every building in America one door? Is that our solution? The one door country.

Every place is a prison. We're a one door country now. A one doored militia is what it says in the Constitution. I'm pretty sure. We have a right to one door. In these other countries, maybe if we had seen a bunch of multi-doored countries and have constant door-related disasters, this wouldn't be the first time it's ever come up in decades of this shit. This wouldn't be the first time we hear about it.

In their mind, the scariest thing to them is one of those cartoon sequences where there's 20 doors and everyone's running in and out, chasing each other in all the doors. It's completely absurd. It's not a serious suggestion. No other and all the doors it's completely absurd it's not a serious suggestion no it's not at all no it's um all like and like you know other doors like fire exits and other doors can be still be opened that's the thing about a door you can get in there there are windows they're like there are other windowless windowless you go in windowless, one door. That's what I was wondering. Are we also removing windows?

Because that was how they were getting some children out, was punching the windows and getting children out. So should we do away with those as well, sir? And it just goes to, again, their whole, well, if you make this gun illegal, people are still going to get the guns. If you get rid of all the doors, people are still going to get inside if they want to. So what's your fucking point? How else do the other people get inside? It's just like really pathetic and speaks to all of their like, quote unquote, solutions as being a either things they already wanted to do, which is like abolish the fucking Department of Education and make you teach your kids at home. Any other thing they can do to, yeah, like fund the police more or do anything other than like address like what is actually like what is causing this?

Why is this happening here? They want it to continue to happen and just have these little barriers up. They want a police state. They don't want to solve crime. They don't want to reduce crime. They don't want to make people's lives better. They want a police state to get the evil out. Because that's how they view this kind of stuff.

It's like, well, it's evil. You can't solve that. So you got to just have one fucking door to go into your school and out of your school. I think we should move on. Please. Because this is a not serious conversation to have. No, it's not. Now, what are the Democrats doing?

Not a whole lot. Cool. They're taking a Memorial Day off and then the entire rest of the week off. If you heard that, send us a journeying. Chuckie Schumer is planning to bring up a House Pass background check bill to the floor, but agreed to hold off because Kyrsten Sinema and Chris Murphy want to try to negotiate with Republicans, see if they come up with some sort of agreement and just go round and round.

Well, they're all horrified and heartbroken. I don't know if you heard every one of them tweeted how horrified and heartbroken they are. Yeah. Democrats love, as we've talked about, love having something to pretend to fight for, a unifying effort. We already see fundraising texts and emails. It's either a good tack. tack i mean they don't want they definitely don't want to look bad trying and failing right before midterms uh so my instinct is that this is just keep going back to the drawing board but you can look you don't have to like you can try and fail and not look bad you can make them look bad you can have like quote unquote common sense gun reform whatever that means to you democratic fucking party and make it very clear you can separate it up here's this one bill and it does this one thing it's not this over like this big like here's this bill it's 900 pages

and there you got all these addendums in there no no just like it's one thing and we're gonna vote on it and we're telling you the country why it's good look at all the people voting against the thing that you agree with if you pull people on specific things they agree with it overwhelmingly there's something people want something to be done and it's not about a fucking how many doors there are so just just do that. And if it doesn't happen, yeah, you won't look great because fucking mansion cinema are in your party and making it impossible to do anything. But then everybody else looks worse because they're voting against the one very simple thing that you're saying everybody wants to do, which is true. They do.

And or you could like take a, I don't know, 11 days off for Memorial Day. That's cool, too. These laws aren't even OK. It's just it's wild. Background check bill. Easy. Shouldn't be such a big fucking deal. This is another one. Steny Hoyer says the House will vote in a few weeks on a red flag law. Wasn't sure what that is. But red flag laws empower courts to issue protective orders barring people from buying or possessing firearms if a judge deems them to be a threat to themselves or others. It just seems like, oh, we don't have things like this already. Of course not. Of course not of course not also point of just to point out that

neither of these things would have done anything to change the situation that happened on tuesday also so it's like let's talk great let's talk about semi-automatic rifles and weapons um yeah it's i mean like again like and that's what they're gonna that's what they're going to use to make none of it happen, right? Even these simple things that would not have stopped this tragedy from happening would stop other tragedies from happening. But because it wouldn't stop this one directly, that means we shouldn't do it now. So it's just going to be a constant state of inaction. That sucks. That's why I'm not the hugest Chris Murphy or Beto O'Rourke fan,

but that's why those videos of them being outraged and Chris Murphy yelling on the Senate floor and Beto O'Rourke yelling at the Abbott resonates with me and I think resonates with a lot of people because it's frustrating to see that people with any sort of power have the same level of frustration and anger and helplessness as I do. We need each and every one of them to be doing that. We need people to be up screaming it. them to be doing that we need people to be up screaming it well yeah we need like you know the speaker of the house to not go to bat for pro-gun uh pro-life candidate like there needs to be unity in like what they want to do and what they care about and like yeah like you know i got a bunch of criticism of beto o'rourke but like more of that at least at least it's something because there's not going to be a vote

on anything right these guys never get confronted on this personally at all they're not seeing everyone's tweets right so like the one time you know they can finally get confronted with their hypocrisy and how the policies that they put into place last year in this country make it so much easier for these things to happen like i want them to be upset and i want them to do their whole like the get you're out of line sir or whatever the hell yeah you know yeah because you look like a fool up there yeah more of you're out of line sir and the response being fuck you like like that's what people are feeling rightfully so um so do that or like you know work with the republicans because they you know we gotta we gotta work we gotta work together because they want to they want to they want to work with they

want to work uh together i saw something they responded quicker to beto o'rourke than they did to the shooter yeah like hauling and they didn't waste a second hauling him out of there interrupting him yeah uh the congress got together to like defend like this like protest like not protect the protest but like supreme the supreme court against protests like last week week or two weeks ago. Instantly. They all got together and did it. And now this absolute fucking tragedy leads them to, again, take 11 days off for Memorial Day. Go rest, guys.

You deserve it. Which I'm told you only get one off on the day. The rest of the country sure doesn't get all that time. People just don't want to work anymore. You know? Yep. The Senate specifically. Okay, guys.

I think that we have talked about this topic. We have. And no other topic. You're right. Because it deserved it. We're not going to do broken news this week. The news is already broken. We don't need to.

It's already broken. We're just going to rather abruptly end the show, I guess. This has been a hard one. I'm glad that we talked about it. I feel a little bit better talking about it. You're right, Cody. At the top, you're like, this is the first time I've talked about it out loud. I don't know if you said that on the show or just with us before we started recording.

But it's hard. But it's also an opportunity for some of these emotions to move through us. And we have to be honest about what we're feeling. And I appreciate all of you guys who get up every day and keep fighting for what's important. This is getting corny. You fucking get it. We love you very much. Okay.