Some More News - Tim Pool Reading Tea Leaves and EVEN MORE Wonder Bread Fetishes

Episode Date: January 12, 2024

Hi. Garbage Day writer Ryan Broderick (@broderick) joins Katy and Cody to discuss how the 2024 election will be covered on Twitter (aka X, aka X The Everything App), Aaron Rodgers, the Stanley brand cup craze, and Nyquil Chicken. Happy Put Your Terrarium On Your Desk And Leave It There Day! Take the first step to visibly thicker, healthier hair. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners and viewers ten dollars off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to https://Nutrafol.com/men and enter the promo code MORENEWS.  If you want to take ownership of your health, start with AG1. Try AG1 and get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase exclusively at https://drinkAG1.com/morenews.  Right now, Hungryroot is offering Some More News viewers 40% off your first delivery and free veggies for life. Just go to https://Hungryroot.com/MORENEWS to get 40% off your first delivery and get your free veggies.  Leave oil behind and start the year with more effective and fast-acting CBD from NextEvo Naturals.Get 25% off any order or up to 60% off as a new subscriber by using code MORENEWS at https://NextEvo.com

Hello and welcome back to even more news and might I say also happy new year not too late to say that is it happy new year it's not. It's not. It's a new episode for the year. We haven't had a new episode since the old year. The old year. That old dirty year that we threw out. Get out of here. Like your Christmas trash. Ah, this year's not going to be much better, though. Fuck out of here, 23.

24 is going to make it look wonderful in comparison. Yeah. Forgot to share my name. It's Katie Stoll. I'm Cody Johnston, Katie Stoll. Hi. Hello. Happy New year to you and a happy new year and a big welcome to our guest this week writer of the garbage day newsletter ryan broderick hello ryan hello thank you for having me my brother's name is ryan oh cool that's

end of sentence is it cool it's just a thing that came out of my mouth I think you know it feels like I'm talking to my brother we need solidarity I was once part of a Facebook group of all the Ryans on Facebook it was really very exciting for like one afternoon my brother wasn't in that group I promise two of my very good friends from high school were both named Ryan were they in that group small I don't probably maybe i don't know i haven't checked facebook to the bottom of that i don't know if i'm going to i might forget about it i'll write a reminder okay to remind you i'll write myself a reminder to remind or reminder you reminder me please oh we're doing great dusting off the cobwebs i can speak words well we've got some holidays to celebrate the holidays

are over but we've there's always holidays. And Jonathan has compiled a few of the holidays that we missed while we were gone. So we're just going to throw it back to December 30th, which was National Bicarbonate of Soda Day. Well, okay. National Bicarbonate of Soda Day reminds us just how much a part this simple little salt plays in our lives. And encourages us to take a look at its origins.

Some real nerd shit here. That's cool. I think bicarbonate is in toothpaste, too, I think. I think so. I think so, too. I saw that on the label while showering the other day. And I was like, oh. so i think so i think so too i saw that on the label while showering the other day and i was like oh i'm more curious of uh when they changed it from bicarbonate of soda to baking soda

what because they're the same baking soda the same thing okay so that's i could have used that i bought bicarbonate of soda yesterday to make my cookies with i made cookies yesterday so i bought a ton recently to unclog my drain it worked great you can oh really what was in there some uh oh i washed my shoes in my shower because i live in a small apartment in new york and that was a bad idea so yeah so bicarbonate of soda really helped you got to get like a filter to put over the drain exactly yeah it's okay for your pipes well well it sounds like not not long term probably i got a snake a little thing i stick down i just rinse it out with grease hot grease just pour some hot grease down there yeah you gotta do the hot grease you gotta do it we have to say we're doing a bit so everyone's landlord doesn't use this in court yeah that's a peculiar thing to do in the shower.

But hey, man, you figured out how to solve the aftermath. You got to do what you got to do, you know. Got to do what you got to do. OK, fast forwarding to January 3rd. Women Rock Day. It's so quirky. Commemorating the day in 1987 when Aretha Franklin was was inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame becoming the first woman to do so okay that i mean i like women rock i i agree i mean i could

just have a day for aretha franklin though to be honest i was gonna say like do like aretha franklin day or like make the name more clear because it sounds a lot cornier than it is yeah it's like aretha's aretha's enough you know women do rock though you know there are other days yeah for that yeah you know i'm just you know if we're gonna honor aretha with a holiday i just think i just think women rock every day of the year. Yeah, that's right. So I just think we don't need this one day. So presents for women every day of the year, please.

And our final holiday that we are acknowledging today. Plotting Tours. January 8th. No, we plod right past this one. This is for you guys to remember for next year. January 8th, show and tell day at work. Since students have show and tell day at school, adults should get to do the same.

Wait. I don't know if that's true. I don't like that one. Should they is the question. We've got some guys bringing in their lifted trucks. And they're like, look what I did on the weekend. I feel like this is just sort of like reminding adults reminding adults like you can like talk about yourself at work sometimes like it's just encouraging show and tell is ostensibly just like bring something or just say national

something about yourself national talk to your co-worker yeah do prepare powerpoint presentations yeah do you like a powerpoint about like your weird hobby i guess yeah that would be fun that i mean if that's gonna waste an entire day of work let's go for it i think that that would be a fun team building day but you have to break off into like small groups because i don't want to sit through 50 powerpoints about what chad did over his weekend he also gotta like remember how to use powerpoint yeah probably i don't know it'd be cool though like if like the weird lizard guy in your office could like bring in like his lizards lizards i feel like that should be encouraged all the time like he probably does put your little terrarium on your desk and leave it

there yeah i think that would be cool put your terrarium on your desk and leave it there. Yeah, I think that would be cool. Put your terrarium on your desk and leave it there a day. You could have an office lizard and a house lizard. You could. Okay, Ryan, we've already started to get to know you. We know that you do lots of stuff in your shower, for instance. But now we're going to get to know you just a little bit more outside of the shower. Okay. Cool.

Yeah, happy to do that. It's what most podcasts are for. Yeah. Finally, we get to the non-shower part of the shower uh okay cool yeah happy happy to do that it's what most podcasts are for yeah finally we get to the non-shower part of the show so you announced on your newsletter garbage day uh that you are leaving substack well talk a little bit about that decision do you want to what what led the paved the way for that? It was very brave of me. I know. Yeah. To change my email host. Yeah, no, I, I mean, just to, to, to run through this really quick for everybody.

Uh, there's been a little controversy brewing inside of subsec for a few weeks now. Again, um, in 2021, they made everybody angry by not really doing anything about a bunch of anti-trans newsletter writers that were harassing and doxing people and then uh the atlantic uh right before christmas discovered a massive cache of neo-nazi newsletters on the site and most websites would just be like hey our bad like we'll get rid of those guys probably eventually substack though uh they like to they do things a little differently. They turn it into a political talking point.

And we're like, yeah, no, we're aware of the Nazis and we're not going to do anything about it, which is a problem. And so I kind of said I would wait the holidays to figure out, you know, is this the big one? Am I going to go? going to go um and then they made things even worse uh this week by saying that their new policy is uh to wait for people like me to complain on a one-on-one basis and then do something if they feel like it turning me into an unpaid janny for subs deck and i don't really feel like doing that so yeah time to go yeah are you going to i'm looking at a couple different options, but luckily now, as opposed to 2021, there are a bunch of different options of where to go. So it's a little easier.

And my readers are very excited. It turns out they really hate Substack. Great. Yeah. It sounds like you're doing the right thing and you have our full support. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

I try to be realistic about this stuff because there are like neo-Nazis all over the internet. But, you know, if you're working with a company that's taking a big chunk of your paycheck every month and they're acting ridiculous and making things worse for you on a daily basis, like it's time to time to you also, in a way. It's a weird existence, making money on the internet, where we're a little beholden to the platform that we're using to a degree or not in this situation, especially. But it's an interesting dynamic. And you do have to be aware that every website is pretty bad or most of them have their. And it's a possibility but you have to try to fight to keep your integrity while navigating the space and it is very tricky it's very tricky but look your audience will follow you so you're like invincible in a way yeah but it's also like 2024 and i'm just tired of talking about free speech like i don't care anymore i don't think um i think like we've said all that could possibly be said about free speech on the internet and now

i just want to send my little emails every day that's kind of it yeah it's kind of been talked to death not the death of free speech but just like my interest yeah right yeah it's just so boring at this point but you so you you follow online trends very closely um and it's very clear that whatever starts on tiktok now ends up migrating to the rest of the internet and i guess well our question for you is should we stop doing long form youtube videos and just be influencers. Yeah. I think so.

Do you guys have the, you guys have the cup. You got to buy the cup first, the big cup. And then you can talk about it in short 60 second bites. And then you can become millionaires. Apparently that's how this works now. That sounds like such a little amount of work.

Yeah. To become a millionaire. You get like such a little amount of work. Yeah. To become a millionaire. You get the cup and you put fun liquids in it. And then everyone calls you a dumb ass for a while on X. And then you become a millionaire. That seems to be how it works. Cause I assume you guys are all in the same hype house right now. We're on zoom.

So, so I assume it's different rooms of your creator house that you're all living in. You can hear me from the other room now, right? Yeah. Yeah. Pipe down down there. Yeah. So wherever you guys have the room with all the big cups in it, you got to go get one,

and then you film it for a while. No, but in all seriousness, it is an interesting kind of quirk of the internet right now. And I think it really has to do with the fact that tiktok videos have the little watermark and you can just download them and what this has sort of done is just like infected the internet with tiktoks and my like assumption is the human brain is just like not good at looking at videos because like we freak out every single time we see a tiktok and we just assume that it's real and that this person is genuine when most of the times like when I've looked into all these kind of like moral panics it's just like people goofing off and doing a bit yeah and like I guess it's like fun for everybody

to like have like a big meltdown about it but after the fifth or sixth moral panic you kind of go like all right like maybe we need to all go outside for a little bit yeah this is likely unplugged for a minute or it's like it's if it's not like people goofing off and i've seen some they're like this is clearly a joke what are we what are we doing here are we incapable of recognizing jokes now and the answer is yes uh or it's like two people where it's like, yeah, these two people are fucked up. Or like, you know, it's like, okay, that's fine. That's always been true. But, and just because it has like millions of people watching these two fucked up people

doesn't mean anything. Yeah. It's like the equivalent would be like, do you guys know about the Wonder Bread guy on DeviantArt? No. Okay. So like, there's like a weird guy on DeviantArt? No. Okay. Go for it. There's a weird guy on DeviantArt that has a fetish for drawing and commissioning pictures

of blonde women buying Wonder Bread and then sometimes holding the Wonder Bread next to deforested areas. He's a pro-climate change Wonder Bread fetishist. It's a real guy. He was very popular on Tumblr for a while. like a pro climate change wonder bread fetishist it's like a real guy he was very popular on tumblr for a while and like our current media environment is essentially like looking at the wonder bread deviant art guy and being like everyone's gone insane deviant art's making everybody into wonder bread fetishes you know which way western man and it's like it's like

no it's just like a weird fucked up person i I mean, I think it was last year, maybe the NyQuil chicken thing went viral on TikTok. And like, I was a big fan of the first wave of the NyQuil chicken thing on 4chan years ago. So I was like curious. I was like, who's, who's cooking chicken in NyQuil? Right. It was two people. And the FDA had to be like, please don't cook chicken in NyQuil.

And it's like come on like there's so much other stuff to talk about I think police departments are warning parents groups about a new trend that children are doing three year olds across the country wake up people they're trying to distract us right that said

though if you have the big cup and you put your NyQuil chicken in the big cup you will become very famous. Yes. And I do think that that is the future of news. You know? I agree. So something to think about.

One of the things was like, for example, this Wonder Bread environmental Nazi guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That guy and that type of guy has always existed. Always. that guy and that type of guy has always existed always from before the internet and 50 100 years from now that guy will always exist we're just aware of him now he has a platform we can go to his website and see his fucked up stuff that he does but like it's that's not really new it's just the visibility has increased and i don't think he's like making more he's not making more wonder bread nazis right probably he's just he's just like they're just gravitating towards him yeah and i get really mad and like a little defensive when like the internet's various freaks

get like targeted by like right-wing columnists where it's like these people aren't for you like leave like you know about the the human pet guy on Tumblr? Like, leave the human pet guy alone. Like, the cyberspace, I think, is his name? Like, leave that guy alone. Yeah, that's his name. You know? Yeah.

Well, like, also, like, it's like, leave him alone. Like, let him, whatever. Yeah. But also, like, the attention that a lot of these people get is what they crave. And you're just feeding in, you're feeding the human pet guy by talking about him so much. What would you prefer? The human pet guy walking around Target

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lens of the internet i have been avoiding the internet a lot and i have thoughts on these topics but i'm very interested in and you guys who have not yet you know removed you extricated yourself from twitter which it was never going to be called x to me it's very very hard for me to find what i need what i want i feel stressed um when i do tweet something it's doesn't seem to be reaching my audience it will to a degree but it'll reach a lot of people that hate me and becomes me then trying to explain and then i'm like you're obviously in bad faith so i'm gonna stop so then i don't come back for a couple weeks so some of these stories i'm a little bit like wait tell me some of these details because i've been yeah well that's also it's frustrating because that's by design um and like i you know i complain about x the everything app all day um i won't but

i could and i kind of do want to but i won't but like i will see a tweet from somebody in my feed that is either really stupid or just horrific like nazi stuff and i'll like click on the tweet and i'll like go around and like this this this i'll read the comments and then i'm done with it and i don't want to see that person i don't follow them i don't do anything yeah and then i see only their tweets all day in my feed or i'll like unfollow somebody and then i only see their tweets in my feed and it is by design the experience you're, Katie, is that he wants all the attention. And that happens from conflict. If you force people to see stuff they don't want to see, it's not because of free speech, which he says, it's because it means that you will spend more time on the site exactly yeah it's also not necessarily even reflective of what the other side thinks it's just feels like chaotic you know and it ends up it just people are so angry and misrepresenting everything and it just feels like it's making it so much worse and so with that in

mind it's an election year and twitter exists does not exist the way it used to it's now the everything happened it is uh terrifying to think about how it will affect things moving forward but especially this year so and you know just this week twitter banned then unbanned a bunch of, you know, leftist journalists. Yeah. You know what? I'll let Jonathan, you set us up. Again, I haven't been using the Twitters.

Yeah. So real quick, this was earlier this week, Monday or Tuesday, X, the Everything app, banned some accounts like Rob Russo, Ken Klippenstein, the True and On podcast, Zay Squirrel, I believe. My favorite internet tankie, Zay Squirrel. Just prolific poster. And they were given no explanation. And the idea was, well, we've all been critical of Elon Musk at a certain point. So Musk replied to some people who were talking about this he replied to

jackson hinkle who's a right-wing influencer who is trying to be like he's a left-wing well right he's being like he's no he's a palestine so that he's a naturalist and a socialist combined what's the word for it it's just on the tip of my tongue fraud at any rate musk told that guy i will investigate because he who knows what's going on he has to go through the catacombs of his company and then he told uh he told glenn greenwald that it was that these accounts may have been part of a sweep or scam for spam or bot accounts which feels extremely unlikely that these specific like notable leftist accounts. Notable accounts that Elon himself has interacted with at least a couple of them with some real singers. You should check out his interaction with Ken Klbenstein.

Very easy. Elon's a very funny guy. So that's absurd. But also, then why are there so many fucking spam accounts, man? Why are they everywhere? Why are they the first thing that I see? Why is every single reply an obvious spam bot account? I saw an ad today for a gator park in Lakeland, Florida on Twitter.

And I thought, you know, this is why I'm still here. For great content like this gator park straight up like some of the ads on x the everything app are the best posts on the site now there's like there's just some days where it's like okay today it's like these four weird like cropped porn photos going to this one like website that is gonna like take all your data or something uh and that's that day and then the next day it's like this like anime boobie game and like all right then that's that day and it's like you saw my game ad oh great yeah it's a really fun game yeah be the hero you want to be exactly but also like they'll it'll be like they'll all have names like

fluorescence.eth and you're like oh this is gonna be about nfts or bitcoin or something like that and then it's not about that at all it's about some other kind of like scammy thing and it's got a picture of oprah there and it like there's like four different threads going on in each ad and you can't block them fast enough i thought i could finally block all the advertisers there is a long tail of these uh accounts paying i don't know what to like be in everyone's feed i really am tempted to do some promoted ads on x but i don't want to give them money uh here's an amazing one there's this one the article is called uh i'm actually very lucky because i get headlines still because i haven't updated my twitter app for a year nice for a year how do you get away with that well the search function doesn't work anymore but it doesn't look like x um but the uh the article

is called if you beat this mascot challenge you have superior memory skills and the image macro says your memory is photographic if you can identify 16 out of 30 of these mascots correctly and it goes to a website called explored history.com but it's from an account called explored hollywood and there's no followers or following from the account they haven't posted it's just this one promoted thing they've been around for six months i like that it uses the phrase mascot challenge like like any human knows what that is i i like i had read it a couple times like what are they talking about oh like product mascots like it's got like michelin man and stuff on here oh i thought like to recognize like the ohio state buckeye no no it's if you recognize like the pills very double crunch okay you'll then you

have a photographic memory that rules it's fucking awesome so but like i think this is an interesting thing because we're like joking around about how stupid twitter is but twitter is the place in the last like two or three election cycles where all the journalists are. And it's like been a place where it's like, what are we going to talk about? What's the surprise going to be? Here's the reaction to the debate. Like there's a lot of political discourse that has gone on on there. And how is that going to work this year? So I had an issue recently, like during the tunnels fiasco. So thank you yes so like like like most people in the world i opened x and was like what's going on with these tunnels in new york city i

also live down the street so i was like very curious okay and just sort of consuming passively um the rabid anti-semitism for 12 hours or so not only do i have like a worse idea of what actually happened i can't like in my brain anymore separate even the real stuff that i'm reading from like garbage that just kind of came in i'm i'm glad you brought this up because i want to this is exactly what we discussed in context of this conversation yesterday. I had the same experience. And so often I do. I will go there specifically because I will try to check something out. My timeline and what I get shown is very different in my algorithm, the trending topics. Sometimes I get told about something and I look and the only thing I could see are jokes you know weird anti-semitic ramblings people trying to

just rise to the top i'm not finding anything substantive the same thing with epstein like oh yeah in the days of the twit i mean i impossible to find anything about possible so fucking frustrated because this was something that was at its core information but also community and i could find the people that i respected easily and but anyway and like pretty good jokes yeah pretty good jokes because you paid for it you know you make it it's i've seen shocking to think about how that affects humor and the way people think moving forward. Anyway, go ahead. I present themselves like I've seen I've seen tweets now from like either journalists or politicians.

And I see the blue check and I'm like, this is fake. Probably this is probably a fake person. Sometimes it's the real person. Sometimes it is fake. And it's like it it adds five steps to finding out what is accurate. It's it's just an impossible website. And even trending topics like this. These are the topics that the the app or website wants you to look at.

And you scroll through and it takes five minutes to find like, oh, no, here's the actual link to a news story. five minutes to find like oh no here's the actual link to a news story instead of the uh the epstein docs in particular because like i i you know i never pass up an opportunity to criticize the media but um the the sort of like teasing the epstein docs like they were like an album release and like phrasing it as a list a lot of headlines were like the list is coming and i remember like because i'm pathetic over like the, uh, the holidays being like, oh man, when this list drops, I'm going to be with my dad. And he's like kind of right wing. And I cannot wait to like, yeah. Uh, and then obviously it wasn't that it was just like a bunch of redacted affidavits and it was chaos because you couldn't even like go to Google cause Google doesn't work anymore.

Um, it's like when I went over to to like see what was in the Epstein docs, it was like a bunch of Indian news sites, the top of Google News, like just aggregating like Stephen Hawking's the Stephen Hawking thing. Right. Which is not even like not even relevant to it. Like it's not part of it. Like even even leading up to it, there were all these like breaking here's the list and it's flight logs from 2015 it's like all this old stuff being presented as this new thing and then that muddies the water when the actual like quote-unquote list or the act like the documents are released it's just and these are also like it's all the fault of like this guy who like purports himself to be like i'm actually i uh we gotta get we gotta get the epstein folks you know like it's just this

weird mix of uh it's just all it's gonna be like impossible to have a handle on like what even are the real topics of debate in this election season and i we talked about this yesterday cody i do think we should read this exchange between tim pool and elon musk because i do think this is going to be what the discourse is this is exactly how we're like the news is going to going to go might i suggest we do that after the break after the break nice that was good you love hearing tim pool talk so thank you um i sometimes our ad transitions don't come naturally and sometimes they do and it's like a moment of inspiration so thank you thank you all for listening we'll be right back yeah we will

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even if it's funny to say x the everything app no i mean i'm comfortable saying this now like you know i'm leaving subs deck to go to x so i'm gonna start paying oh you made that decision in the course the last 20 minutes well you guys made some great points about x and i want to be the premier news source for the martian colonies of the future so i mean everything we got here that sounds like a lot right you want to be a part of everything everything now that we've built up this series of tweets for five minutes and gone through ads oh yeah i just this is there are a couple examples of this actually because elon musk seems to get his news from

tim pool and ian miles chong two complete fools and frauds uh who make up whatever and i mean tim pool's entire like half of his entire approach to a video is to read an article for the first time out loud in real time and post that and just sort of react to every other sentence that he reads sometimes he'll like skip over a passage that kind of negates the point he's trying to make by reading the article whatever he's whatever anyway his tweet is. So Cody, you be Tim Pool. I'll be Elon Musk. Just so it's clear who's what here. Biden will drop out soon.

Sorry, this is how he talks. Yes, I can't say. Thank you. OK. Replaces everybody places. Please hold sound. Quiet on the set. Can we get last looks?

OK, that's fine. That's fine that's fine just clear camera okay and action biden will drop out soon the reason they waited this long was to be able to bypass a primary and appoint a nominee avoiding another bernie situation just guessing or you have some inside scoop a few months ago i said the best move for the dems machine is for biden to suffer a medical episode and be saved by newsom many said by now it's too late because it's too late hold a primary deadline passed my response is that this is the perfect play actually jp morgan strategist predicts biden is out in march over a medical issue perfect timing if true biden gets out with enough time for michelle or gavin to campaign but also

allowing them to skip the primary process preventing rfk jr or marianne from winning no inside scoop just reading tea leaves brilliant answer to just guessing or you have some inside scoop was just guessing. I don't know. That's his answer. A lot of words for it, but also. Sounds pretty real. JP Morgan strategist is just this article on Fox that's like, these are things that could potentially happen. Just a list of like random ass things that like, yeah, you know what?

A meteor could hit the planet. We as so many things could happen. The super volcano could explode between now and then. Anything could fucking happen. Right. That's the thing. So like Biden might die this year. That's just a fucking fact.

Trump might die this year. He might shit fucking fact uh Trump might die this year he might shit himself on the debate stage and die from it who knows yeah that doesn't mean anything and I guarantee you that if if Donald Trump dies and somebody replaces him Tim Pool will think that fucking like Biden killed him or something yes like there's no consistency in his worldview it's just this weird again reading tea leaves but they're not even tea leaves it's just he's reading dirt that he fucking scraped from the bottom of his shoe also in the shower in the shower exactly it's just it's just fan but it's just fan fiction right like yes q anon is just fan fiction it's it doesn't go anywhere it doesn't mean anything and the thing

that worries me is not so much like these two bozos doing this but like this effect happening to everybody yes this year right well yeah because like yeah if you have the owner of the website boosting this absolute fool and his guessing as he admitted then that's just gonna be how it goes i mean even the what the pelosi uh break in when elon was like what was it actually this i think so and it's like some like fake news bullshit that he deleted and never apologized for um it's just a stream of that which does influence people real quick on that also i love just throwing in michelle that's just a nice little way to like you know make it even more yeah he smirked he smirked when he did that he knows what he's doing yes he knows what he's doing but in general you know this i have uh interesting

conversations with people up here in the mountains i've got a variety of political opinions in the group, groups that I'm friends with up here. And sometimes those conversations are better than others. But we were talking about Aaron Rodgers and Jimmy Kimmel. And we can talk about that more in depth. We probably can go through the back and forth. But right now I'll say it matters what you say online. You know, some people are saying like, well, it doesn't matter. Everyone's so sensitive. Like we need to be able to take jokes. Well, that wasn't a joke. But also on both sides, like people just say something.

Maybe it is a joke, but it becomes reality. We're so irresponsible with how we use the internet and how we can see they know, they know that when they play to a crowd, when they make this comment, they know what's going to happen. Pizzagate is a good example. Chrissy Teigen's a pedophile, you know, now based on the internet, it's extremely dangerous. I once saw Aaron Rodgers speak at a Bitcoin convention in Miami because Dave Portnoy was late. So they put him on.

And let me tell you, I don't think he's a very deep thinker. Oh, man. What a sentence. He's going to go after you for saying that. He really doesn't like it when people say he's not smart. I just don't. I don't see it. Should we? I don't like it when people say he's not smart i just don't i don't see it should we well so like real quick just on the on the joke thing like and this is a symptom of well because a symptom of i think the blue x whatever i don't even know what it's called anymore it's like because twitter's not blue x is like oh yeah now but

like they still have blue checks and it's still, is it still, is it X blue? Why are they blue checks? Is it X premium? Premium? X premium. Yeah. Well, most importantly though,

it gets you access to Grok. Oh, finally. The non-woke AI. It's that access. So I rarely log on to the desktop version of X because I prefer my broken Twitter version than I have my phone. The sidebar on X is just hideous. It's so long. I was looking for the bookmark tab,

but I had to click on the extra dots to get to the bookmark because Grok took up the fucking spot. But I don't subscribe to premium, so I don't even use Grok. So like, it's just a broken website. But my point about the blue thing, you're getting all these checks to like get boosted. And so those are the jokes that you see. And the whole thing of like, well, it's a joke. It's a joke. Is it a funny joke? And more often than not, the answer is like, well, it made people mad.

So that's the joke to you then. Well, and I think to a certain subsect basically the fact that it gets people mad is quite funny exactly there is a subsect of people where that is quite funny people watching people's reaction should we set up this aaron rogers jimmy kimmel thing that i just referenced i can i can try to go through the the back and forth here fairly quickly. So Aaron Rodgers, New York Jets quarterback who was injured all year, he's going to be a Hall of Famer, four-time MVP, very, very, very good at football. He has a weekly guest spot on the Pat McAfee Show,

which is this news sports show on ESPN. Pat McAfee is a former punter in the NFL by the way, but he's very good at this kind of thing, talking into a microphone about the topics of the day and so aaron rogers has gone on there a lot and he said a bunch of dumb anti-vax stuff on that show um and they were talking about this epstein what they thought would be an epstein list coming out and aaron rogers said there's a lot of people including jimmy kimmel who are hoping that list doesn't come out said, there's a lot of people, including Jimmy Kimmel, who are hoping that list doesn't come out. And very quickly, Jimmy Kimmel responded, saying that he's had no contact with Epstein. And you'll hear from my lawyers, you know, if you want to keep doing this. And Jimmy Kimmel went on his

late night show to talk about this, like, you know, you're accusing me of being a pedophile. That's horrendous and libelous and all this stuff. And it caused a bit of a firestorm. So Aaron Rodgers went back on the Pat McAfee show this week, talking for several minutes about the woke establishment and spreading more vaccine misinformation and said that he didn't. I'm going to try to read what he says here because I don't want to play the clip because it'll it takes forever. Here's here's the quote from Aaron Rodgers. I said that a lot of people and I'm quoting myself here. A lot of people, including Jimmy Kimmel, are really hoping that list doesn't come out. End quotes, that's what I said. I was referring to the fact that if there is a list, which again, this hasn't come out yet, this was just a deposition, and there are names on it, then that would be the second time that a soft brain junior college student, you know,

wacko, anti-vax, anti-Semite, purveyor, spreading misinformation, conspiracy theorist, MAGA, whatever, other things have been said by him and other people in the media, would be right twice. What? So he's saying that... What does it mean?

What he was saying is that Jimmy... It means that he was saying... This is what he says. He was saying that Jimmy Kimmel doesn't want this list to come out because then that would mean that he, Aaron Rodgers, was right and Kimmel has made fun of aaron rogers for being wrong poorly constructed sentence i read it so many times and i was like oh oh he's not a great speaker but like who's saying that he's wrong that there's a epstein is a like sex trafficker

he was much more articulate at the bitcoin convention i was gonna ask i was gonna ask no wait hold on but like to get back to this so can you read it again actually yeah that didn't take long enough the first time i'll go to the i'll cut out the stuff where he's talking about himself okay so what he's saying is i was referring to the fact that there is a list and there are names on it if there is a list then that means that me aaron rogers would be right twice and i think he means the first time i was right i think he's talking about how he was right about the vaccines the whole time because he thinks he was right about the vaccines the whole time he keeps saying this all the time he's like the vaccines were proven to

hurt kill people you know like he he i don't think that's true aaron but all of those things those are things that jimmy kimmel said about him that aaron rogers has a soft brain that he was a that he was a community college transfer to and he went to berkeley on a football scholarship all this stuff but like nobody's saying that there isn't a list of people who are associated with jeffrey epstein right no one's saying he's wrong about that sounds to me like he was actually calling jimmy pick him up pedophile honestly like he was i would also argue so like this explanation from aaron rogers really deflates the idea that it was a joke also. Yeah, it does.

Because his explanation is that, no, I was making a point about how I'm right. So it wasn't a joke. He should stop talking altogether. He's just making it worse for himself. I don't want to play devil's advocate here, but I almost do kind of believe that like he was just like thinking he was like continuing a beef with jimmy kimmel and like accidentally called him a pedophile by like when he was really just being like having a continued conversation across media properties with another man like i kind of right

he's like we're in if we're feuding yeah i gotta keep it going and mention him because he thinks i'm wrong but actually i'm right twice about this thing also apparently we just call people pedophile a lot these days it's like become fairly common to just suggest atrocious things about people without any evidence and it's only funny when it's about elon musk and i do want to say i think there was there's one thing i want to give aaron rogers credit for in his ongoing feud with jimmy kimmel is that jimmy kimmel when he first came back on the air did make a joke about how people who took ivermectin and get covid don't deserve medical treatment he made a joke that's like oh the hospitals should be reserved for people who

got vaccinated like some sort of joke and that's like a shitty thing to say and absolutely and that's like an air talk right there right and aaron rogers targeted that piece as well as including the other like 10 000 nonsense it's so frustrating when that happens because it's like yeah that was wrong for reasons that you don't think are wrong like you're not mad about that part actually everyone deserves medical treatment even if they took the horse medicine yeah yeah you know yeah you know there is a really ugly part of covid where a lot of people and i'm sure some people listening and we've all been mad at anti-vaxxers or people that, you know, had different opinions about COVID over the time. But as I've progressed, I look back and I'm like, I really hate that part of us.

That's like, well, then fuck off. You don't deserve. Then go die at home. We don't want you in our hospitals. There was an attitude like that, which I think is so unhelpful. Oh, yeah. It's the same thing whenever there's a natural disaster you know and like oh they voted for this person so they deserve it or whatever which is like first of all hateful no they don't but also some people didn't vote for that person

they just happen to live there so it's like wrong on for a lot of i can't believe this heavily gerrymandered district voted in favor of being of like evaporated by a flood i can't believe that that that happened that's crazy it's also just like keeping people in a in boxes anyway well anyway i've said enough about that pat mcafee said on wednesday that aaron rogers is not going to appear on his show again, at least for the rest of the football season. He's back. Oh, he is? Yes. Oh. Already?

As of like, hold on, let me double check. Yeah, I saw this on X, so it might be garbage, but I'm pretty sure Aaron Rodgers was literally on it just now. Oh. So he went back on that less than 24 hours after I, geez. Great. Awesome. Yeah, geez. Awesome. Yeah.

Aaron. Okay. This is from Variety who has not been consumed by the right wing media system. I think yet. Maybe Aaron Rogers appears on Pat McAfee show one day after host said NFL star will not return amid Jimmy Kimmel feud. Well, what did he say? Let's see.

I'm doing a Tim pool. I'm going to, I'm reading this in real time. Oh, fun. Yeah. Okay. So Pat McAfee. Yeah. jimmy kimmel feud well what did he say beautiful let's see i i'm doing a tim pool i'm gonna i'm reading this in real time oh fun yeah okay so pat mcafee yeah pat mcafee said he wasn't uh and then there's yeah he just he was just on it oh he just he just came back he's just like oh come on man let me back on all right because it's there it's funny he could have just shown up and not said anything because pat mcafee's sidekick is former linebacker A.J. Hawk, who in all of these clips always just sits there. I definitely talk on this show way more than A.J. Hawk talks on that show.

McAfee said, that was wild. We were getting absolutely killed. They were like, you turned your back on Aaron Rodgers. Do you know how many things I've been through with Aaron Rodgers in our short relationship? I was not pumped to be in the middle of any of that. I was not stoked, bro. This has something to do with Belichick's retirement.

I don't know enough about sports to understand what's happening here. In his opening monologue, the sports analyst introduced the New York Jets quarterback as the last human that Bill Belichick talked to on the field as the New England Patriots head coach. Oh, yeah. Hold on. A bunch of family members from the Boston area were telling me about this today. There's like big Bill Belichick drama kicking off today. Yeah, Belichick is no longer the coach of the Patriots for

the first time since like 2000. It's a huge deal in the football world, but he never coached Aaron Rodgers. So what do we need? Yeah, it seems to be related to that okay well who cares shall we wrap this up with a little fun and by fun i mean stanley cup oh yeah we haven't mentioned stanley cups we should say what they are yeah ryan do you want to talk to us about this little phenomenon that's happened because you probably know it better than us.

Yeah, yeah. I was very curious why all of a sudden Stanley Cups were everywhere. I noticed them last year when I was like looking into what the water talk hashtag is, which is like basically a lot of Mormons and weight loss coaches like making fun water on TikTok with like flavor packets. And they all use this cup. And I was like, what's this cup about? And then it kind of blew up over the holidays best as i can tell uh there's like one marketing guy who used to work at crocs and he made crocs into like a sneaker head thing and then he left crocs and he joined stanley

because a bunch of i'm speeding through this but basically a bunch of mom bloggers discovered that stanley cups were perfect for the car and so there was like some buzz and then that was supported by a star from the bachelor. And she was like, I love my Stanley cup. So then Stanley hires the Crocs guy and his whole thing is, uh, like what he calls a scarcity model.

So he like makes limited edition stuff for people who love the product. And so this Christmas they did a, a Stanley Cup drop of like a limited edition Starbucks Stanley Cup at the Starbucks's that are only inside of Target's. And so people camped out

for like hours to get the cup. Oh, wow. And it's like, I looked this up the other day. There's been like half a billion views on the stanley hashtag in the last 120 days on tiktok everything's insane it's not a new model i mean it makes me think of it's brilliant really to do what you want to do we're just so like give me the special thing i want the special toy the one that nobody else

can have i need this i want to participate i want to collect my i mean like beanie babies but fascinating i have a stanley cup but it's not those i just find them at the thrift stores up here well it is special it's big and it's got the canteen top but it does not fit in my cup holder in my car see you also you gotta clean them no matter they're hard to clean they're really a lot of people getting mold in their stanley cups because they're putting all the flavor packets in there and the sugar yeah people you gotta clean them gotta clean your cup i also want to bring up good advice in general in the shower i mean the shower is a perfect place to clean your stanley place

we were talking a bit ago about how google doesn't work and google's always had some issue with like things that are called the same as other things and like having disambiguation pages is something that wikipedia does but it is not something that google really like has right away it's got the did you mean but anyway um not to bring it back to sports but the stanley cup is the big trophy you win at the end of the nhl hockey season and i so when you say stanley cup i think of one very specific thing and as have most people for the last like hundred years yeah and this is called the stanley quencher h2.0 flow state tumblr but flow state if you google stanley cup they don't know what the hell to do because it the first thing you get is like a sponsored ads with all of these multi-colored tumblers and then the stanley

1913.com link with the tumblers and then on the right it says stanley cup award winners vegas golden knight colorado avalanche and then top stories which is all about this the craze around the cups and then perspectives which are like tweets and reviews and then the wikipedia article for stanley cup the trophy and i mean it's just like this is a big problem with a giant stanley cup then nhl.com stanley cup and then why the stanley cup is causing a frenzy at tart it's like really having a battle royale and the google search results between these two things and i also think i think it's like an important debate over you know are these cups or are they bottles because you're not gonna

say tumblr no one's doing that no but i would say they're it's a cup because it has a handle yeah it's different than my other one mine is a thermos which jonathan then pointed out thermos is its own entity um you know what what's um interesting is so when you think of the stanley cup i'm thinking of the way i say is like the stanley cup it's like both words are emphasized but when i'm referring to a stanley cup but it just came out the same but in my mind it's a stanley cup stanley i see what you're doing yes the stanley cup the stanley cup it's the stanley cup not a stanley cup stanley i see what you're doing yes the stanley cup the stanley cup it's the stanley cup not a stanley cup but then right now we're talking about the stanley cup situation everything gets chaotic and but instead of the stanley cup situation maybe stanley cups

situation stanley cups right stanley if he released a posthumous line of cups an ai stanley you mean he's not in uh echo is that the new that's the current one yeah yeah but you'd think like for some things like this that google would be able to be like hey real quick which one of these things do you mean this one great here's the ads here's the videos here's the links or whatever but it doesn't seem like they focused on their search product in a number of years no they have not that me katie stole sitting here searching this i mostly get the stanley cup yeah versus so already they're showing me that and not this what if i was looking for the other cup yeah well i also feel like so

much of their search is now like it's like so in the ai stew that like they don't really seem to even care about how their search operates anymore it's impossible to use much like all websites now yeah i mean they should put these stanley quencher h2.0 flow state tumblr ads at the top of every search really because that's probably gonna make them the most money i'm not gonna lie from the time that we started this segment till now i've slowly really wanted one so now i really want one and i didn't when we started this segment and now i'm looking at him i'm like oh that orange color is cute and it's called straw which is actually kind of key when you're in your car. Fits in your car. When I'm doing my, I have to drive from the mountains to LA pretty often. And I'm taking sips of stuff.

Does any car have a, have a, like a standard cup that comes with the car? Has anyone tried to do that? It should. I think May Cooper. Yeah, like this is our, this is like the official. Yeah, I imagine Tesla would probably be the first one to do it because it's not a good idea right like you could put a hot beverage inside your car with a straw to your mouth and you could drive exactly yeah like yeah you're like you get up in the morning and you go on your phone like heat up the cup in the car heat up so when you

get in that when you get in the car it's all ready for you well that's a fun bit but how about just a cup that comes with your car that actually fits in the cup? Oh, yeah, no, exactly. Like that was where I started. Car makers, I know you're all listening. How about designing some damn seats where everything doesn't get stuck underneath? It's like what's up with that? Unbelievable. Things fall and you're driving. Don't make it a big cave. fall and you're driving don't make it a big cave four months later tesla is recalling all model s's because hot coffee burns through its built-in cup running through the carburetor or whatever it has in there well you have to pay like three dogecoin to get the cup out of the car to fill it how are you supposed to wash it if you run out of doges? You have to watch one X video, which is not a porn thing anymore.

Right. They're all about Harambe now. Did Dave Portnoy ever show up to that Bitcoin conference? Good question. He didn't. People were furious. He was out walking around and he was supposed to talk later that day and he didn't do it. I love the idea of being mad that Dave Portnoy doesn't show up somewhere.

Yeah, they put Jordan Peterson on instead of him as well. Are you kidding me? Why was this conference again? It was Bitcoin Miami. Yeah, Bitcoin Miami. Which is what it's called. It's called Bitcoin Miami. It's when they introduced the robot bowl.

Do you remember that? When's the next one? Bitcoin Miami convention. introduced the robot do you remember that bitcoin miami convention oh yeah the mayor of miami like stood in front of like the wall street bull that they built in miami but it's like a robot one to be like crypto based it was that day and and jordan peterson spoke and yeah he he cried um about uh bitcoin and financial freedom for a while um and then aaron rogers came out i still don't i don't know if you're making this i'm not serena williams was there too um wild wild she she kind of likes crypto too so i'm just googling and there are so many different crypto

bitcoin oh yeah i'm gonna have to check one out one of these days yeah if any of your listeners are more interested in investing in Bitcoin, they could definitely find me on X, the everything app. Happy to talk about it. I'm sorry. Real quick. You said that Dave Portnoy was there and then just decided not to speak. Is that?

Yeah, he left. But he was on the floor walking around because I saw him. Because I'm from a neighbor. I grew up in a neighboring town to him. He's from Swampscott. I'm from Marblehead. And so i hated him even before he became sure um because he swamps got trash and uh i was excited to see him speak live but he never showed up but he was walking around but he was there he was there yeah he was there weird weird

people are strange and we're all on our own journeys. And his that day was just not up on stage. His journey was taking a back at the stage. And on that note, this was a great start to our new year. Did I say happy new year? Happy new year, everyone. Happy new year. Ryan, please share your details. I guess you're leaving soon yeah yeah everything up yeah so uh yeah i run an account

uh called uh crypto doge uh miner uh on x no so uh even though i'm moving uh the url will stay the same so you can find me at garbage day dot email and i'm my name on most platforms so yeah awesome this is fun this is great we had a good time we got it we got through it all and for the first time of this year i just want to make sure you all know that we love you very much much have you ever heard that story that napoleon Egyptian Sphinx for target practice and shot its nose off? Or maybe you've heard that a French astrologer named Nostradamus correctly predicted nearly 500 years of human history. Or maybe someone told you that the legendary blues guitarist Robert Johnson sold his soul to the devil at a crossroads in Mississippi. These stories are what I like to call historical myths.

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