Some More News - Trump's Clown Hall, Confusing Psyop Theories, and EVEN MORE Limericks

Episode Date: May 12, 2023

Hi. On today's episode, Katy and Cody discuss the civil verdict against Donald Trump, his abysmal town hall on CNN, and how much evidence you need to declare someone a Nazi. Also, Jonathan's back! He talks about what it's like being a new dad and why parents in the U.S. deserve so much more from their government. Support us on our PATREON: http://patreon.com/somemorenews  Check out our MERCH STORE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/somemorenews?ref_id=9949  SUBSCRIBE to SOME MORE NEWS: https://tinyurl.com/ybfx89rh    Subscribe to the Even More News and SMN audio podcasts here: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/some-more-news/id1364825229  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ebqegozpFt9hY2WJ7TDiA?si=5keGjCe5SxejFN1XkQlZ3w&dl_branch=1  Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/even-more-news   Follow us on social media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/SomeMoreNews  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/SomeMoreNews/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SomeMoreNews/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somemorenews  If you're looking for an easier way to take supplements, Athletic Greens is giving you a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase. Go to https://athleticgreens.com/MORENEWS. Upgrade your CBD. Go to https://NextEvo.com/MORENEWS to get 20% off your first order of $40 or more. What's better than getting one pair of Shady Rays and not worrying if you break or lose them? Getting two! Go to https://shadyrays.com/morenews and use code MORENEWS and for a limited time, when you buy one pair of Shady Rays, you'll get a second pair FREE.

Hello and welcome back to even more news the first and only news podcast my name is Katie stole reticulating splines reticulating splines hi I'm cody johnston having now rendered my voice coming to you live from the past hi how you doing i'm all right excellent we'll get into that yeah we will but first why do you have some big news everybody big news big news jonathan's back in better than ever with his baby not with you right now is uh thrilled apparently i don't know if anyone can hear that he meowed as soon as we uh you announced jonathan was back uh my cat right to sleep auto my baby is inaudible at the moment. But the baby exists, I assure you. It's not just some girlfriend who goes to another

school. That's not the reason I had to disappear for six weeks. There is a baby. The baby's doing well. Mom is doing well. I'm doing fantastic. Fantastic. We're gonna circle back around to this so hard in like two minutes you know how

this show goes you weren't gone that long first we got to talk about the holidays wait what are these they're days we celebrate okay so jonathan we've been doing this for a while like no it's okay he's got baby brain it's fine but uh we just start our show this way. And then you uncovered this whole well cat. Oh, yeah. So we holiday thing that we do. Right. Also, you made this doc. So thank you for putting together these holidays.

Oh, sure. Yeah. Right. I did that yesterday. Yeah. Thank you. There you go. OK, perfect.

I mean, time is what is time, especially with a child in your life. May 11th. We like this holiday. Oh, OK. Perfect. I mean, time is what is time, especially with a child in your life. May 11th. We like this holiday. Eat what you want day. Heck, yeah. Go out there, guys, everybody, and just eat the things that you like. There's no need to choose what's good or bad. Just do whatever you want. I think this is healthy advice for any day, but especially on eat what you want day. Go out there and within reason, eat what you want. Yum, yum, yum it up.

I don't know. It's just one day. Yeah, but like, you know. I don't know what's within reason. Don't judge me. Not like yellow jacket nonsense. We're not doing that. Oh, I stopped watching.

Well, yeah, don't blame us for your having having to yellow jacket yeah like this isn't i stopped watching oh it was just too disturbing i see i understand i'll get back there but i was having a hard time on episode two yeah you gotta you know you gotta pause you gotta go check out what uh the mandalorian and his uh You gotta, you know, you gotta pause. You gotta go check out what the Mandalorian and his friends are up to, right? Yeah. Mandalorian has so much more narrative momentum than Yellowjackets. You gotta see what's going on there.

Sorry. Can't stop thinking about those Mandalorians. I've already finished season three. Is there another season already? No, and probably not for a long time now. I know. May 12th is national limerick day okay let's see jonathan running out katie i asked chat gbt to write a limerick that i would like to read if we do this holiday yes jonathan yes please read us the chat gbt limerick do you

want to yeah do you want to read the prompt first or do you want to like surprise us with the prompt after okay well i wrote i did two because i wanted to try and see what they've got you know considering that they're going to be writing all the content sure one of these days i figured let's get a hot new artist chat gpt yeah let's see what this young writer moving into hollywood has so i said write a limerick, uh, about, uh, Cody and Katie hosts of some more news. And this is what it gave me. There once were two hosts named Cody and Katie. Their show. Some more news was quite weighty with humor and wit.

They covered each bit and made politics seem almost as fun as a party. Did you follow up with like, explain what you think a limerick is and how limericks go i did not because whenever you do it's like oh thank you for informing me that that is incorrect can we put that on some merch oh god they tried i guess some more news i'm not i can't talk like politics seem almost as fun as a party. So then I said, okay, let's see if we can broaden this out a bit.

And I said, give me a limerick about the news. And it's, this one's a little bit closer to what limericks are. Yeah. There once was a thing called the news, which often left folks feeling blue, but if truth be told,

it's worth being bold and staying informed is what we must do. Okay. Pretty close. Some of the cadence is a little off. The meter or what is it? The rhythm meter, the meter, the number of syllables is wrong. Yeah. The pentameter. The pentameter.

Well, the pentameter is the name. I am a pentameter. The pentameter is aameter well the pen well i don't know i am i am the pentameter is a type of is a type of meter yeah we don't know either way not a great job but not a the worst job not worth firing yeah no it's a good example of why they not why or how they want to use it to do a first draft that someone else can come in and punch up and fix completely. Yeah, maybe change every single part of it. Change every single part of it. Yeah.

Cool. God. Well, that does it for the holidays. Happy National Limerick Day. You ruined it, Jonathan. Whoa! Cut me saying that. No!

That's not nice. We like Jonathan and his... No, we keep your insultss there once was an insult from katie and it was mean okay we're gonna catch up with jonathan now i'm gonna give a disclaimer to everybody that i have covid right now and i'm feeling real weird But we're here and we're doing it. And that's why I'm so disjointed. Am I, though? Well, I mean, for listeners, we have an episode of the Some More News YouTube show coming out next week.

And Katie's in it. And she does a great job. We filmed it yesterday, despite the COVID that she has. The COVID of it all. Yeah, she's feeling loopy and tired. But she nailed it it's great so you're doing great thank you we'll talk about that i just felt self-conscious and needed to to share let everybody know that why yeah try try to rain on my parade of returning with a baby

having covet i gotta say perfect week for you to come back, though. Thrilled to have you, because I was not going to be able to do the stuff that I was doing before. I am very sorry you are sick, and for all the listeners to know, there were a lot of discussions of, like, do you need to take time? Are you up to this? So

I don't want people to think that Katie was forced to shoot or record or. No, my boss made me do it. And my boss is me. Maybe this is a bad example. I'm making light of it. I we've got a lot going on and we've had some time off recently.

And I'm very fortunate in that I don't have covid in a way that is hugely impacting my life. I don't, I'm very, very, very tired, but I'm feeling much better today than I have on the other days this week. And so I just kind of made an executive decision that since I'm here isolating in my home, I'd be able to do these couple hours of work. And that is a very privileged place that i'm coming from being able to uh i would not but i would not recommend anybody i like i wouldn't be leaving my house to go to work right now i don't you know that would not be possible i do not mean to make make light of the covid i don't think anybody's thinking you are and i know i was pretty giggly when i said it it's okay to make light of things you're going through.

It's how we deal with things, right? Made it, made it three years. And here we are the week the COVID emergency is over. We did it. You made it. We did it. We made it. It doesn't count if it's after the emergency, right?

Right. I didn't think so. Right. I don't have it. That's right. And, but yeah, no, COVID is still a thing. It's still spreading. It's still a thing that you have?

It's still a thing that I have, but it's still a thing that people should be aware of and, you know, conscious of and, you know, aware that a thousand Americans are still dying of it every week. There's a new strain that's making its way around is it an xbb bb8 oh it's bb8 got it mm-hmm sorry bd1 sorry ig it's ig14 it's ig14 there we go baby no squeezy that's a for the Mandalorian heads out there.

Sorry. It's so funny to me that you get any of these references now. For so long, just no interest at all in anything related to this franchise. And now you're drinking Red Bull and watching The Mandalorian. And I'm like, wait, are you me 10 years ago what is going on just make it just quoting you know i find your lack of faith disturbing after everything you know wild there's no reason to you know respond to this with a star wars quote it is a serious news story no get it together you you know. Bad baby in a squeezy is so cute, though. Anyway. They figured it out, I swear.

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And remember, I am always watching and judging you. Specifically you. Okay, Jonathan. You got thoughts on having babies oh i mean i have so many thoughts on having babies so i like two weeks into his paternity leave jonathan texts me just like when he comes back he wants to we want to have a conversation about what the reality of having a kid in this country and uh you know navigating the hospital system and figuring out this time of new parents lives and i'm not going to say what you text you go ahead and tell us like it's it's as exhilarating and exciting and as difficult as as everyone says like we're very tired we're not sleeping

a ton but we're also like like feeling a a kind of overwhelming love that we never knew existed and like are spending all of our time just looking at our baby and and you know it's such a amazing emotional experience so it's really painful to like as soon as you get home have to like get them into the system and like put them on your health insurance and then you like get them their card and their social security card and it's like oh now you are part of this like painful system where it's so hard to get health care and like you're on the phone with them being like okay yeah i want them to be on this plan and this thing and then you're on the phone with them being like okay yeah i want them to be on this plan and this thing and then you're like oh by the way you know how you do that thing

where like you make a profit by denying me the ability to go to the doctor and stuff you're not gonna do that here because it's a baby right you're gonna like let the baby go to the doctor and they're like well you know if it's on his plan and this is happening and you're like what like i can't do the thing where i would just give up if it were me you know when you try to go to the doctor and you can't you're like screw it i can't whatever i'll just i'll have whatever it is like that's not an option anymore so like that's very like upsetting to be like oh there's no way to get around like putting you into this system and then like a few weeks in when we're like super exhausted and it's like full time for both of us like i was like i don't know how i'm

gonna go back to work ever like this is a 24 7 like dive in like take care of this little person experience and then you know we realized like we're in a position of privilege my wife is a public school teacher she gets maternity leave i was in the position to take six weeks off which uh not many people especially not many fathers get to do so i was like aware of how um special and important that was and so the fact that there is no guaranteed family leave in this country, right, that there that other countries, like provide newborn childcare, or in home nurses for newborns for the first few weeks, you know, you read about what they do in, you know, Denmark or Norway, you're like, yes, that's what it is. It's

essential. And so it's one of those things where and we've talked about this, you know, we did an episode that I wrote, right, and that it came out as I was gone about rich people, and how Elon Musk and neonatalists want to, you know, expand the birth rates and people need to have more kids. And why aren't younger people having kids? And if they really cared about that, there's a lot of things they could advocate for in terms of, you know, the United States government that would make that a lot easier. Bringing back the expanded child tax credit, universal health care, you know, preschool um subset other kinds of subsidized child care like we we knew what we were getting into um in terms of a time commitment and financially and all that and we're like up to the challenge and everything but it is abysmal

it's like societal malpractice what we do it's a huge ask yeah Yeah, absolutely. And we are going to be tackling this topic more broadly in an episode in the near future because we've been talking about this a lot. I mean, I'm in my late 30s. It's now or never, kind of, maybe for a while now and maybe maybe I got 10 years maybe probably not to have a child and it's absolutely unsustainable looking to me at this juncture because we do not have the services or the infrastructure we don't have anything at all to support parents in the raising of a young child and it's it's daunting you have to be in order to really do this you have to have a a lot of things a lot of bases covered you have to be pretty privileged in order to feel like you can enter this comfortably and even that isn't comfortable it's absurd um and also exciting and thrilling and you know congratulations no it's like amazing but this is a news podcast so i was like let's talk about like the things that we could do to make this a reality for millions of other families across the country we were also fortunate that my wife's mom was able to come down and live with us for a few weeks. My

mom came and stayed for a week. We've had a lot of help and support and other things that governments do around the world, but that ours does not. You know, there are things you don't expect when you go into the hospital. There are things you don't expect throughout the whole pregnancy. And then as soon as all that's over, this thing you've been building toward for months and months it's like oh okay that's over and by the way here is this little human that you are now responsible for every minute of its life and it's something that you can read books about and hear other people's experiences and it just doesn't like click for you until you're holding that baby and i think as a country we need to do a lot more for people who want to have families a lot more for the people who already have families and it's and maybe this

is what elon musk and the neonatal want, that only some people get to have babies. Only some people get to further their bloodlines, which is what they're thinking. But this really should be an experience that anyone who wants to take on the responsibility and has the time and energy should be able to do. To just that point, just for context, Musk has slashed Twitter's parental leave

from 20 weeks to two weeks. Oh. Yeah. Ridiculous. According to an internal memo about that. Although it's framed as like, whatever the state, that state allows, because we don't have a federal law about parental leave.

So he's using that as an excuse to get people back to work. And I had never held a newborn until I had mine. I had held older babies. A two week old needs to, it really should be with his parents and, and people, a lot of people in this country are not in the position they're in the position to have hopefully a family member but if not like a

stranger in daycare or something taking care of a very very young infant there's this whole thing and i'm probably going to butcher the theory but the idea is that like human babies come out about three months too early, like before they're ready and they have to do that or else the head would be so big that it wouldn't be able to pass through the birth canal. Yeah. So that like our babies come out and they are like not ready to go. But other mammals come out and they can walk like a giraffe. Yeah, like deer, exactly. Like that's the image that we all have. They can walk a little bit, and they have enough wherewithal to like,

okay, this is where I get food. I can walk on my own to follow my parents around. Human newborns can do no such thing. It is an extremely involved experience. You have to wake up every two hours day and night for food like they for forcing someone to go back to work at walmart or something a week later if they've run out of their sick days is abhorrent and something we should be ashamed of as a country and we're doing it like for the economy or to punish people for what we think is them not being responsible enough uh it's ridiculous i don't know what the average number of weeks paid that other countries give

six to me feels like it should be the minimum like what we had what we had the privilege of having feels like it should be the minimum well honestly when you were first discussing this with us and letting us know and you you know we were talking about six weeks in my mind i was like you might want more than that a lot of my friends who have been through this recently you know six weeks i'm i'm thrilled that you guys are doing so well i hope you're not lying to like make us feel good because because it's such a wild that's a blink of an eye. Six weeks. It's nothing. And, you know, we used to have more community around us. So I think that these first weeks, months of a child's life used to have more support world, you know, like way, way way way back in the before times and there's just

seems to be a real disconnect yeah from your elon musk types just from our general cultural idea of parenthood uh between the the reality of how hard it is and what we're expecting of people or, you know, except, you know, there's there's been conversations about like, oh, you know, especially up here, you know, a man should, you know, is out without providing and the woman can take care of the child and whatnot. And it's like that's absolutely an unrealistic and unreasonable expectation of people in this day and age or anytime probably it's like a misconception also uh of what it's ever been like raising a child but you know you

can't even support a child at a family on one salary taking care of a newborn is like i feel like everything like that my wife and i just experienced is like the minimum amount that it takes to make it work like two people available 24 hours a day plus a supporting cast of like parents and friends and things remember that i don't know if you guys know wayne's world too well there's that bit where the guy who's going to be running the concert is like, it takes two people to run a rock concert. One person in the back, one person out front. Hilarious line that I just repeated for everyone.

Oh, it's good. It does like, I can't imagine a single parent doing this by themselves just because you need to sleep. So you'll let your partner to sleep so you'll like let your partner sleep and then you'll take the baby into the other room and do feedings for a few hours and stuff and then you get to the point where you're holding them and like nodding off at 4 a.m and you're like okay for everyone's well-being i have to wake my partner up and give him the baby and switch off because that sleep cadence goes on for a few weeks we're at the point now where he's um mostly

sleeping through the night and by that i mean waking up every three hours to eat and for a diaper change but then we'll fall back to sleep afterwards but that's not really the case the first few weeks they'll wake up and feed and have a diaper change and then just be awake for an hour and you have to like be with them or else they'll like start crying. There's no way around it. So the days and nights are completely flow thrown into flux. And I mean, I'm sure people do this on their own all the time. They're forced to, but they really shouldn't have to. It's like it takes a lot of

people and i think we should treat it that way it's it is the old george carlin bit like as soon as you're born they don't care about you oh yeah fuck them yeah exactly oh yeah so anyway that's my piece i'm also very happy and thrilled and uh want you guys to meet him. I can't wait to meet him. I'll wait till I don't have COVID, though. Well, yeah. That's good. You don't want me to... Wait. That was expected.

You said that so fast. I'm outside right now. I brought my bedroom in. I mean, I was kind of expecting you to be like, oh, no, Katie, don't worry about it. But you really quickly were like, yeah. So, offended. Those fatherly instincts kicking in.

I am sorry. Good for am sorry you're a good dad around the baby i would love for you covet or no covet to beat my baby that's terrible there's no but okay my desire my desire to please it will go head to head with my ability to parent well. Well, we'll see who wins that battle. Okay, this feels like the time where we're going to take a break for advertisements, but then we're going to come back. We're not going to come back for even more news because we haven't talked about any news yet,

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This was all very important news. Yeah, it counts. So here's some more news oh good the new the headlines if you will i will say some news then yeah say some news jonathan oh i'm so glad you're back donald trump former president donald trump uh was found liable for sexual abuse and defamation this week gas that he was yes he was he owes a columnist eugene carroll five million dollars based on a 1996 incident where he accosted her in a dressing room forcibly touching her the jury said no to the was not a charge because it was not a criminal case but

said no to rape but yes to sexual abuse and forcible touching so what what's the def what's the diff i i'm confused on that distinction especially in this situation their bar is not um beyond a reasonable doubt it's like is it more probable than not yeah preponderance of evidence. X happened. Yeah, but not for rape, but for sexual abuse, you know? Like, he literally raped her. It confuses me how I understand the liable thing. Like civil case, criminal case.

Civil case, yeah. But they found him liable for sexual abuse and defamation, but not liable for rape. The sexual abuse in question was a rape. that he groped and touched her genitals but could not say more probable than not that there was i don't want to be graphic at all but that penetration like there's yeah there's like i think there's like just sort of legal uh differences between like of like the very specific act and then more of a general i think it's different for state, state to state, too. I mean, he's a sexual predator. For sure. Which we knew.

And he handled it with great dignity and class as he is want to do. After the verdict, he truth socialed, all caps. I have absolutely no idea who this woman is. This verdict is a disgrace, a continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time. we go again y'all i mean never quite stopped but i have absolutely no idea who this woman is the man who put gas lighting on all of our minds we know you know who this woman is well he admitted on the town hall last night that he knows who she is. Like, it's a very weird... Yeah, he's just a liar. Very upsetting. It's easy for him to lie. Sorry, I know we've moved past

this and I understand states by state, but I still, to find him, you think it's li... Not you. It's the jury. Yeah. You know, liable for sexual abuse but not rape. And I understand, again, I get what you put it out. It bothers me. because if you're

trusting her account of what happens of what happened it was a rape he pulled down her pantyhose and you know didn't last long but it was a rape so i just need to say that because i'm this that pisses me off legal whatever we don't have to break down. And I'm glad that she's walking away from this with some vindication and that she is getting paid. And, you know. To the extent that it's possible has cleared her name, you know, you don't know that you're convincing the other side of anything, but, you know, let the records show. But still bothered me, bothered me. It's one of those things where the jurors are now free to reveal themselves and explain their thinking, although the judge advised them not to because supporters of Trump are known to hold grudges and violent vendettas against people who wronged them. and violent vendettas against people who wronged them. It's everything feels so commonplace about this, and it is not commonplace at all for what happened this week to happen. And then for him to go on CNN and be talking as if he's just a presidential candidate. Yeah, we could talk about that.

And uncomfortable. And it does seem it's that like, you know, originally back back in the day, that phrase sort of like this is not normal was, you know, a rallying cry, like repeated over and over to the point where it was like almost became like a meme of like, it's like, yeah, we get like, this is not normal. But it's really not. It's really weird. of like it's like yeah we get like this is not normal but it's really not it's really weird and like you're saying like it's just everything like all the impeachments and like uh and this and uh yeah he's just chilling out now still on stage as like a serious man and it's very very weird and abnormal and surreal a little bit did you watch any clips of the town hall i saw like two i didn't i i understand that it's gonna happen and uh there's no avoiding it like this is just

how it is he's running for president it's gonna be on debate stage he's gonna do all this sort of stuff um but i just don't want to give too much thought or attention or eyeballs to it yeah because it also is like all the same like every clip i've seen like i've seen him say that it's a lie he's lying with like what like i didn't learn anything from it other than nothing has changed boring uh honestly and frustrating uh yeah same situation i'm not gonna watch him on tv but um checked out a couple of the clips. It, yeah, we can might as well talk about this now. I mean, the whole spectacle of it was very frustrating to have the day after this verdict,

have a room full of Trump supporters in the audience and to give him this platform to literally not answer questions to just keep saying things that we're done that was years ago at this point they're not we know there's criminal investigations going on about how you oh about all these things that you're now lying about i cannot begin to wrap my mind around it i mean i can it's it just feels like are we back five years you know yeah well because it's i mean it's the kind of thing like and you know you see all these like uh cnn employees and uh everybody like oh i can't believe we did this or like we should be a show we're so ashamed the owner of cnn is like a conservative like every anybody who owns a company really like

a multi-million dollar uh corporation is going to be tend to be conservative regardless of how they you know portray themselves as we talked about in that episode that you referenced earlier jonathan but that's it's a very um in a way deliberate sort of move to uh you can say it's a move to the center but it's a move to the right due to ownership and i mean even the moderator used to work for the daily caller tucker carlson's website one of her articles was like the 10 hottest syrian refugees we'd love to take it it's just like trash it's babylon b shit exactly um and uh so it's not surprising that cnn like cnn's not good and i don't know if it's ever been good uh in it's it's corporate media and they want the eyeballs they want the spectacle they want

what they got and to pretend like oh my i can't believe i can't believe we've done this yeah you can what are you talking about uh you work for cnn what are you talking about uh so it's just like it's uh one of those things where like it's not surprising um and i don't buy anybody who works there to like be like oh this is not who we are yeah it is yes it is um it's absolutely who you are just embarrassing and like yeah i'm not gonna watch that because again like what the one the one clip i uh saw i see a lot of people passing around other than the standard stream of lies is it uh his like take on ukraine and like i just want the dying to stop i don't fucking believe you for a second that you care about people dying excuse me didn't you assassinate somebody didn't you don't like don't like there's

so many things that he's done that like don't indicate that and it's one of those things that is what you you hope that presidential candidates say these things and mean it like war is bad i don't like the dying from war um but he can't say like yeah i think it was bad that this country invaded this other country like he can't even say like he can't even like acknowledge the reality of the situation he just has to vaguely say i'd stop it i'd make sure it ends well how i do it all right that's what's wild to me his audience loves the slop they just like okay he's gonna like make fun of establishment media whatever we love it but we we've seen this guy do politics for like eight years now and he says well i'd stop the ukraine russia war in a day like he doesn't he doesn't say how and the audience is like ah yes very good we of course

this guy we agree with that stop it in one day like when has this guy said something that didn't happen you know like appointed dude like dude had like john bolton working for him like what do you what you want like don't like wars and you want to stop all the dying get the fuck out of here well right but like how long did bolton work for him he would have stopped it by forcing russia to win like yeah yes i know but like ignoring all that stuff the claim that i'd stop it in a day but i need to be the president to do it okay good luck but it's like it's this sort of thing like and it works for some people like look at he's like he's to the left of everybody he says war is bad like yeah i believe him stopping in a day the war stopper the big old the big war stopper what you got you know another

thing that went on this week was a a raging debate about whether the allen texas shooter from last week is a nazi oh boy i would posit that he is because he had nazi tattoos posted a bunch of nazi stuff on social media had a patch on his chest that said right wing death squad um and his russian social media page had a bunch of screenshots from tim pool and libs of tiktok and i guess that last one doesn't necessarily make you a nazi specifically but with all the other stuff make you a nazi pool thing it's not just he's like these tim pool videos it's tim pool videos with elijah schaefer i believe um who is a fascist nazi yeah more or less. So, yeah, there's context that maybe supports this theory that this guy with Nazi tattoos is a Nazi. Well, I guess what I want to bring up is, well, one, how much evidence do you need before you're comfortable saying that someone's a Nazi?

Because a lot of people don't believe he is right no that's not a nazi and two why wouldn't you want the shooter to be a nazi that's a very interesting question that's a good question that's the thing that is so it's because you can say you can see these things like yeah nazi nazis are bad easy easy thing to say um so to like completely try to reject this notion uh is very odd um also like all these people like elon and tim pool and like all these people are like well maybe it's a psyop or a mexican american like a nazi beliefs first of all like you know like there are a lot of like proud boys who aren't like caucasian american white you know and like a few months ago didn't elon have to like suspend kanye for like posting a swastika and

like going on podcasts and saying he loved hitler like this isn't like and like that's a whole other story and like a lot of other stuff going on but it's not a brand new concept and because also i think it's interesting um aside from like details of like oh yeah like there's um you know some people can like a lot of uh latinos like they don't view themselves as uh uh as non-white right but also one thing with nazism uh and this sort of violence is looking also at the targets, because one thing I think that like the temples of the world maybe don't want to acknowledge is that like the people that they are constantly demonizing and dehumanizing are the targets of Nazism quite a lot. dehumanizing are the targets of nazism quite a lot um if you have uh all these videos about like what the transgender like demons are coming for your children and all this sort of stuff that's nazi shit and uh it's not just like well you have to be white aryan to be a nazi the targets are also part of that and like the things that they hate is part of it and so it just sort of seems like a lot of like willful ignorance on their part to not want also to do

that also in miles shong used to post about how he liked hitler so fuck that guy he's a liar yes to all that and i can't help but think how quickly one of the three trans shooters that there have been how quickly that was an example of the trans community and you know this violent trans person and yet when it's this situation you're going to jump through every hoop imaginable to explain away the obvious. To defend the honor of Nazis. To defend the honor of Nazis. I guess that, right. I didn't know we were that far past having to, I mean, Ian Miles Chong would have to still pretend that he's not a Nazi.

But like, I didn't know we were past that point of pretending where even elon musk was like well a nazi would never do something this violent must be a psyop it's yeah it's it's um it's pretty absurd and uh this is a side sort of frustration it's with musk specifically responding to all these people whether it's the red-headed libertarian or you miles Chong or whomever, he'll always respond to people's tweets with, they make these claims with like exclamation points or like, Oh my God.

Wow. Interesting. And like, then like three days later, community notes, which he praises as being the arbiter of truth will point out this original tweet is a lie. It's not true.

It's a missing context or it's just false but that doesn't matter at that point it's been three days since the owner of the website has boosted the misleading tweet and then the function of this community notes thing is just not working because three days later no one's looking at that tweet anymore you have to like go back and be like by the way this thing you responded to is like oh concerning wasn't true are you still updating community notes i'm trying to yeah it's just it's like really frustrating um i try to contribute and vote when i can but like every as i tweet about today every other tweet is like has a community note like actually um this is a it's like they'll say this like it's misleading and

then just repeat what the tweet says like what do you like just reply to the tweet it's it's just a broken system with a bunch of like weirdos that are constantly trying to defend elon in them so you have to just either vote all of them as unhelpful or just constantly scroll past actually the rocket exploding was a good thing like exactly exactly yes and like try to add like as many like this doesn't belong here uh you're abusing the system stop it like just leave so yeah it's not a it's a it's a fine idea for a system but it's not really working great um for its purpose yeah i mean at least you'll be able to find someone to date soon thank goodness finally that's gonna be yeah i can't wait for a bunch of twitter blue

accounts to meet each other and date each other and then and be able to call you question mark you gotta have uh yeah call me on twitter dms if you need me uh yeah just not good at all what a horrible nightmare situation that sounds like to me he just wants to turn it into uh his everything app idea um which has the same name as one of his kids yes exactly normal guy a normal man yeah it's not good um so which is all to say that the website this is all happening on and the dialogue is happening is uh really frustrating because of the system and the guy who owns it because now we're like yeah look at this nazi guy with all his nazi tattoos doing nazi violence and uh then like well maybe uh it's a psyop to uh i don't like even like what's it for is it to take our guns is that is that working i know that that's i can't believe

that line of question like when you can like psyop to take away your guns we're not have you no one's taken away any guns it's not working they should do a different tactic that's what they they're doing with this right yeah the cia is like even worse at their jobs than we thought if they're like well this hasn't worked for 20 straight years but let's do it let's plan another shooting and this time this is how they get you know guns yeah then that justifies them doing more legislation and all this stuff i remember i had this one conversation i was like well wouldn't it make if this was a psyop wouldn't it make more sense that it's like from the gun lobby that it's from the nra themselves because what happens after all of

these mass shootings is that there is a spike in gun sales yeah i mean they need to you know yeah maybe decide to uh foment more violence amongst the population there you go so that they then they do the crackdown or misinformation i don't know it's just frustrating to see these people so defensive about the nazi. I didn't contribute much. To that conversation. Because I'm not feeling great. But it was a very interesting conversation. To listen to. And I think our listeners will agree with me.

Thank you so much. For the compliment within the episode. About what an interesting conversation it was. We're very meta. But I think that. I'm going to call it i do yeah i'm gonna go take a nap you should you've earned it yeah yeah i've sort of earned it you have covid i don't need to earn it also no one needs to earn their nap that's right sleepy let them sleep let. You're sleepy. Let them sleep. Let them sleep.

If you're sleepy, let them sleep. Sleep cake. Yeah. Ooh, sleep cake. Mmm. Do you have any sleepy time tea with the bear? Bear with the nightcap? I might.

I've got a bunch of tea in that tea cupboard. Whole cupboard full of tea. Mmm. You should have all of it. You should drink a lot of the tea. Tweet the picture. And non-caffe a lot of the tea of the tea cover see what happens just add all of it in you want me to tweet a picture of my tea yeah a picture tweet a picture of the tea i was gonna say send it to me but you know maybe everyone wants to maybe everybody i'm gonna think i think that everyone... You know what?

I'm going to save it for tomorrow when this episode is posted today, if you're listening, or yesterday, if you're listening on Saturday. I'll post a community note that says, this is a cabinet, not a cupboard, by the official designation of the National Cupboard Council.

And I guess it's not a whole cupboard. Well, you know what? It's like two solid shelves, but you know what i'm going to do for the photo i'm just going to spread them around um onto all the shelves there's some athletic greens in there as well oh there better be there better be every cupboard has got a bag of athletic greens because i'm running out of space thanks for letting me give you a homework assignment while you have covid yeah yeah yeah no that's fine we like fun projects like that that involve absolutely no effort

pictures and post Jonathan it's all good to have you back oh it's good to be back you're here too I am um thank you for noticing and guess what we'll be back next week oh boy oh boy oh geez teasing next week's episode i don't know what we'll talk about some bullshit some important bullshit um but you know what guys in the meantime what i just want you to know what we love you very much