Some More News - Trump's Coup Phone Logs, Cawthorn's Group Blowjobs, and EVEN MORE News

Episode Date: April 1, 2022

Hi. Noah Garfinkel (@NoahGarfinkel) joins Katy and Cody to talk about Ginni Thomas' texts, the ongoing Jan. 6 investigation, Donald Trump's hole-in-one, Madison Cawthorn's or...gy-and-coke fantasy, Jordan Peterson's musings on revenge, and more. Support SOME MORE NEWS: http://www.patreon.com/SomeMoreNews We now have a MERCH STORE! Check it out here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/somemorenews Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/some-more-news/id1364825229 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ebqegozpFt9hY2WJ7TDiA?si=5keGjCe5SxejFN1XkQlZ3w&dl_branch=1 Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/even-more-news Stop overpaying for shipping with Stamps.com. Sign up with promo code MORENEWS for a special offer that includes a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale. No long-term commitments or contracts. Athletic Greens is going to give you an immune-supporting FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase if you visit http://athleticgreens.com/morenews today. Scribd is offering our listeners 2 months of Scribd for only ninety-nine cents. Go to https://try.scribd.com/morenews/ to get your first two months for less than $1. To get your new wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, and get the plan shipped to your door for FREE, go to http://MINTMOBILE.com/morenews. Follow us on social media! Twitter: https://twitter.com/SomeMoreNews Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/SomeMoreNews/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SomeMoreNews/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somemorenewsSupport the show!: http://patreon.com.com/somemorenewsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome back to even more news the first and only news podcast my name is katie stole that's what they say your name is and they say that about the podcast type and length and importance in the site don't think that i mentioned it's like but well it's the longest running because it's the first hi i'm cody johnstonston. Hey, Cody. Joining us today for the first time, a comedy writer. You may know his work from such shows as New Girl, Crow Show, and Single Parents. You guessed it. It's Noah Garfinkel. Do you think they guessed that? They might have. Well, I think some of them might have read the title. Probably.
Starting point is 00:00:45 And then there are a lot of people that just have it auto playing, I would imagine. And they probably did not play along because who plays along with the podcast? With a very quick intro. Yeah. But they know those shows and they know. Yeah. I mean, if someone did guess who I was just from that description, I'd be flattered and worried about that person potentially murdering me on my own. But if there is a subsect of people that are really into great comedy programming and zeitgeisty internet people, it would be our audience.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Okay. Good guess, listeners. You nailed it. Holidays. Yo. This is a good one. Is it? Friday is April Fool's Day, I guess. Friday being the day that this comes out. So just like the national avoid the internet
Starting point is 00:01:40 day? Yeah. More or less? Yeah. Do you have any big plans for April Fool's Day online, Noah? Are you going to avoid that? No, I don't. I think I – yeah, it is a day to avoid the internet. I think that it might be a slight internet break. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Just log off. Take a rest. You know, recharge. So that's right. It's April Fool's Day, so it's your reminder to step back from the computer. You can listen to this podcast. That's fine. You can.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yeah. No fools here. I'd love it if Burger King, instead of doing something that had anything to do with its brand, was just like Betty White's back. And that was their that was their prank. That's their claim. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Maybe. Can you slide in there real quick and let them know yeah let them know uh i didn't realize uh john you put this into one thing volkswagen did at one point uh that they were they said that they were rebranding as volkswagen to like emphasize electric vehicles but it was an april fool's joke and they didn't do that and like the meanest joke i've ever heard is that a joke so it's like saying something that the car company should probably do and then not do it just kidding business as usual it's they do a lot of corporations love not worth it april fool's joke where like we fins will be like we're making sweet fins and you're like that's a
Starting point is 00:03:04 pretty good idea and then they're just kidding and you're like, that's a pretty good idea. And then they're just kidding. And you're like, you don't need to be kidding. You could just make those. Yeah, do that. I want one. Why was that the joke? A sweet thin is such a thing that I should tell you guys. But it is a gluten free cracker company called Simple Mills.
Starting point is 00:03:19 You know what? Fuck it. Simple Mills is not paying us any money, but I enjoy their products. And they have these little crackers i think they might even be called sweet thins but i might be making that up but they have them in different flavors the audacity of calling it sweet thins and they are like one is like chocolate cocoa and then the other one's like browns brown sugar they are they're called yeah they're simple meals and they're going free i'm gonna have some later anyway noah welcome to our show we're so glad to see you right out of the gate first
Starting point is 00:03:53 question so you wrote you wrote for new girl um one of my best friends and former next door neighbor uh hannah simone uh of course is on new. And I guess my first question for you. The best. The first question for you is how great is Hannah? This is a really fucking stupid way to start this. Just a. No, it's like I feel like when when you're like when I met her, she was then four seasons into a show. uh when i met her she was then four seasons into a show and i feel like it's so yeah the amount of like jaded actors that deep into a series uh is high and to just like have someone who was just
Starting point is 00:04:33 happy and welcoming was i mean the whole cast but she was particularly the whole cast i was lucky enough to come a few times to set and, you know, and watch. But Hannah is, this is the news program, but I'm going to sing the praises of my friend. She's so grounded and humble and talented. But, you know, she's strong in herself. So everything else is a plus. And everything about New Girl was like a pinch me. This is amazing.
Starting point is 00:05:06 is a plus and everything about new girl was like a pinch me this is amazing so it's she wasn't somebody that was going to get ahead of herself or get a big head she's just enjoying every single moment of it yeah appreciate even if you're working 20 hours a day be like i'm lucky i don't know how long this will last you know yeah and they were working i mean by the time i got there they kind of figured some efficiencies out but they yeah, they used to work full like 20-hour days most days. All right. Enough about Hannah, the person we all love. Jonathan, you put some good questions in here. You had a small role in the NBC show, The Good Place.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Your picture is seen a lot during the show. You were, for viewers, you were doug forcett the team who got stoned in the 70s and accurately predicted how the afterlife worked do you get recognized from that photo is that like something you get stopped for never never the only one person has ever just recognized me from it. And it was, do you guys know Quinta Brunson? Nope. She would know she's on Abbott elementary now.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And she was in a few episodes of single parents that I wrote for. And on set, she was like, wait, are you Doug Fawcett? And that's the only time. Awesome. From that point.
Starting point is 00:06:20 So you don't like regularly like introduce yourself as young Michael McKean. I don't. And I do. I really love Michael McKean. I re-watching better call saul now he's so good oh yeah he really is i haven't watched better call saul i should watch that it is it's oh it's it's nice it's like a slowed down breaking bad breaking bad's a little too fast. Yeah. You know what? Maybe I will. I started to these years that we've been slowly wading our way through, and I couldn't handle anything intense for a while. And maybe still can't.
Starting point is 00:06:57 But it was kind of one of those, yeah, I see you maybe some other time, but I see you. Is Patriot not incredibly intense? It is intense, but that is worth it. Okay, bringing a worst year ever bit over to this show. Everybody needs to watch Patriot. It's the best show I've ever seen. Patriot on Amazon. I will go as far as to say it's at least one of the best shows.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Patriot, I don't want to spoil it. Comedy drama. Two seasons. it's got john guy that's special ops his dad works for the government and uh he's a reluctant warrior type helping his dad out with some terrorists and tracking down it's off the books thing but it's very funny and then add into the fact that he like he works through his emotional problems and all the stress he's dealing with like folk
Starting point is 00:07:50 songs and that's it's very funny it's very funny and very emotional and very exciting and yes it is stressful but there's enough of the only two seasons but there's enough of the other stuff that it makes the intensity worth it and you get the intensity in doses stuff that it makes the intensity worth it.
Starting point is 00:08:05 And you get the intensity in doses. But yes, it's very stressful. Watch it. I feel like we've all gotten stressed out trying to help our dads out with terrorism. So I feel like it's relatable. That's why I like it. Yeah. It's very relatable.
Starting point is 00:08:21 We're going to talk about the news. But first, I'm going gonna ask you about your relationship yeah we do i mean it's in the title i mean it could be just other types of news but i wouldn't know what they what that is what's your relationship with the news i mean it used to be very intimate and intense i uh i got uh mono two weeks after 9-11 and was like home from school for like a couple of weeks and the only thing on tv was 9-11 news and then the news just became like my soap opera that i watched every day and then that's what they want that's how they do it i watched hours of cable news for years and years and then like over the pandemic finally i was like i can't do
Starting point is 00:09:06 this yeah wow thoroughly rotted my my brain so you don't have you just sworn off of it you just i haven't sworn off of it online i'm just not watching like i'm not at like my uh like 2007 peak where i would watch like chris matthews and then watch what they re-aired it at three in the morning also like I'm not oh yeah yeah you're one of those I was one of those notes I was I was very delusional disorder oh deeply oh sure yeah it was very comforting at least other people know it's bad out there. Yeah. Yeah. It was,
Starting point is 00:09:46 yeah. And I've really tried to not watch as much and have also found it untenable to watch as much. What I feel like for anyone else who has that problem I used to have, I just get a Nintendo switch. I tried, but they were all sold out at that time during the pandemic, but now maybe it's different.
Starting point is 00:10:04 It was so hard to find yeah nintendo switches in 409 for some reason was impossible to find my favorite cleaning product oh i thought you meant in 409 like a zip code and i was like that's interesting i also like the idea of abbreviating a zip code. Right. You see the first three. That's a very friendly California thing. Oh, yeah. I'm from 210. Yo, that's how we do it in the 919, you know, in the 409.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Oh, I got area codes confused with zip codes there is what happened. The area codes makes tons of sense. Wow. Yeah, that's how we do it. 90027-993. Yeah, it doesn't really lend itself to slang. I'll tell you what does lend itself to slang. I don't have a name.
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Starting point is 00:13:34 Okay. Okay. Okay. Ginny Thomas. We're going to talk about Ginny Thomas since January 6th. Who's that? She is the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Oh. He's alive still, right? He yes he is uh but last week in it was revealed that she had been having text
Starting point is 00:13:55 conversations with uh trump's chief of staff mark meadows after the election yeah donald trump no that's fine keep doing it it's good yeah good good good and I'm sure everyone loves it it's really helpful it really just like uh didn't completely stall what you were describing I forgot where was I anyway uh texting Marksman Marks Mark Meadows uh you know telling him urging him not to let Trump concede defeat um you know it just made it abundantly clear that she very much believes the various election conspiracy theories um such as you know biden his team trying to steal the election that the army was preparing to help keep trump in office hopeful that trump was gathering evidence of election fraud and would send perpetrators to guantanamo guantanamo bay
Starting point is 00:14:41 that's so fucked up what like not like obviously like how could you believe this stuff but that's such a fucked up thing to want to happen. Yeah it is it's real bad. Like not a good look. Yeah not a good look Ginny. Ginny spelled the way you would guess it was spelled if this is all you knew about her. Oof
Starting point is 00:15:00 it's bad too. Also autocorrect it doesn't even recognize it I know cause I kept trying to type G-I-N-N-I and it changes it. Yeah, two I's just doesn't, it rejects it. Much like Biden rejected the real result of the election. Right, good. Which he lost, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Now the January 6th committee wants to interview Jenny Thomas. A lot of people are saying it's ridiculous that Clarence Thomas hasn't recused himself. I happen to agree. Also, you know, on Monday, there was this decision from a California judge basically saying that it is more likely than not that Donald Trump violated the law and attempted to obstruct Congress
Starting point is 00:15:43 in his attempts to overthrow the 2020 election. Anyway, you can just say that, like, you just fill that in with whatever, like, it's more likely than not that former President Donald Trump violated the law, whatever, blah, blah, blah. The point being, this is all about a set of documents. This is a court ruling that will more than likely end up going to the Supreme Court or it could, in which case Clarence Thomas has a vote
Starting point is 00:16:10 on whether or not the documents need to be released. Documents that almost certainly implicate or it could implicate his wife. The January 6th committee got like 100 documents and they got a bunch of stuff from Mark Meadows including these text messages already
Starting point is 00:16:26 so they have them but then like Clarence Thomas was the only person to vote no in giving over like a whole other cache of documents from the National Archives I think and he didn't say why he didn't say why he was voting
Starting point is 00:16:41 no he's just like I dissent I'm off to lunch so the big question is you know if he does if he did in fact know that his wife's texts you know were part of those records um does he know about the texts that she was having these conversations it's hard to uh believe that he wouldn't know about them it's's very hard to believe. But he's not directly referenced in the text. We'll say that. However, her best friend, I'm just going to read this quote.
Starting point is 00:17:11 This is one that she sent to Mr. Mark. Thank you. Needed that. This plus a conversation with my best friend just now. I'll try to keep holding on. America is worth it. And they have very publicly called each other best friends
Starting point is 00:17:26 throughout their marriage in their public career you know at speeches and events so again hard to uh buy it's also insane to imagine that like a woman in her is she in her 70s or 60s i don't know would refer like to call anyone your best friend sincerely yeah yeah as a code name for someone else is wild yeah i mean if to be her age and to refer to people as best friend it would need to be like a real bestie that we all know and she's been publicly photographed with and i see no evidence of genie having a best friend. I don't know. This isn't a good joke. Some people do like refer to 10 to 12 different people as their best
Starting point is 00:18:10 friends though. And so she might be one of those people. Yeah, they do. The best friend that she sees. That's what I mean. It's like usually they're tagged on but like usually those people are tagged on Instagram and they're like in each other's stories and stuff. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Yeah. Maybe, maybe she hasn't talked about this with her Supreme court justice husband. Maybe she, they've never mentioned it to each other at all. She seems very discreet in that. Yeah. They're saying separate.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Yeah. I think this is a responsible people who wouldn't, who wouldn't do that. Just my opinion. I think she's innocent and there's nothing to be done about this. All right. A few more January 6th updates in which nothing will happen. As I already mentioned, federal judge from California found it's more likely than not that Trump broke the law and planning to prevent the certification of the election. Yep. The committee is likely to conclude that Trump committed crimes and recommended charges to Attorney General Merrick Garland. It's unclear if Merrick Garland would do anything. I would guess no. No? That's my guess.
Starting point is 00:19:13 It's going to be like a period of time where you get people doing like the Mueller thing, but for Garland. Yeah. He'll be like the superhero in like a children's book and stuff and they'll do all the pillows and shirts and then nothing will happen i have something really embarrassing to admit which is that there was there was a point in in 2017 where i even myself i i didn't know if i was being ironic or not but i did buy a a robert muller t-shirt yes hell yeah you still got it you know it doesn't fit great it's probably somewhere in a drawer but i would never it's the most embarrassing thing i can i have it yeah you gotta hide it i'll buy it off of you you can have it i will i read i would
Starting point is 00:19:57 wear it i actually think it would be funny for the show at some point to have. Yeah. I'm sure that we could use it. It would be amazing to go in someone's house and see just like Robert Mueller mugs and t-shirts and they've got the bed sheets like their kids have Robert Mueller bed sheets and they're like, well, I got really excited in February 2017 or whatever. It's like, I'm not going to give it away now. My whole house is decorated with this stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Exactly. There's a one of our writers, our head writer, Dave Bell, MovieHooligan on Twitter if you all want to follow him. He, if you've ever been to his apartment, which I'm assuming listeners have not. So weird if you have. I have.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Really weird if you have. But he has Colm Meaney from Star Trek, if you're familiar with him. You mean from Con Air. Sorry, Colm Meaney from Con Air. Yeah. I'm sure that's. He. So Dave has so many fucking Colm Meaney like things uh it's incredible uh he's got like a
Starting point is 00:21:08 stand-up he's got pictures in his bathroom he's got little the little figures and they are spread out throughout the apartment i actually haven't been to his new place and i think he's got like a komini like section now um it's so many it's incredible i don't even know how it started or why it's a bit right or does he just i don't know i'm i mean it's a it's a i don't even know how it started or why it's a bit right or does he just love i don't know i'm i mean it's a it's a bit i'm really that's so god damn i wish i would have thought of being a it's a bit but it's it's incredible it's like snow i think it's snowballed yeah i think it's snowballed from a place of of earnest like love of that of home meeting from star trek um and it just became it's a great. And it's just incredible to go there.
Starting point is 00:21:46 The first time I was there, it was like, oh, so you got a picture of Colm Meaney. That's interesting. And then walking around the corner, like, oh, that's a full-size cutout of this man. You know, I enjoy dabbling in interior design. And one thing that's really important
Starting point is 00:21:59 are through lines. So if you introduce an element in one room, it's very, very important to find ways to tie it in. So if you're going to go with a Colmini in the living room, you really got to spread it out all over the house. The way indoor plants bring the outdoors inside. You want to bring Colmini into the bathroom from the living room. Yeah, you do. Because it's worthless in the living room.
Starting point is 00:22:21 He was in the bathroom too. Anyway, I'm sure there are molar people out there with the exact same situation for a different reason. My other embarrassing thing that I own is Donald Trump toilet paper that I received as a gift. And now it's just like, it's in like the- They were hot Christmas 2016. Yeah, I would have never bought them for myself. But I just put them in the laundry room bathroom. And I had a plumber come by not long ago.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And he fucking loved it. He loved the plumber. Yeah. That's something I'm always like whenever something comes over. What's your reaction? It's either really intensely positive or really intensely negative am i ruining this relationship by having this here one last little bit of news from this that isn't going to result in anything there's a seven and a half hour gap in the phone logs
Starting point is 00:23:16 that were sent to the committee from trump on january 6th you didn't know about this. Yeah, there's a seven and a half hour gap of the phone logs from the day. From the day. They're so bad at this. Oh, I love it when you don't know something and then we say it and you laugh. Oh, that's incredible. There's speculation he was using a burner phone or other back channel communications because we know that
Starting point is 00:23:46 Kevin McCarthy and other people were calling him asking him to call. Well he's always on his phone. He's never not on his phone. Right. He loves it. And this is what the Trump spokesperson had to say said he had nothing to do with the keeping of records and just assumes
Starting point is 00:24:02 all records are appropriately kept. There we go. That's it. that's all we got oh oh i love him so much what a piece of shit he said in an interview and i don't know if in the interview they had already mentioned burner phones but donald trump said i don't even know what a burner phone is and then john bolton was like he's mentioned burner phones before like he's a big fan of the one every you know when people are telling the truth they blatantly lie that didn't come out what i wanted it to but you know just i've got nothing to hide so i just say something very provably false you You could have just said I don't have. He could have said I don't have a burner phone.
Starting point is 00:24:49 No, he said I don't know what they are. I don't know what they are. Right. You admit that you're a human being in society. It's the worst lie. But guys, he did get according to Trump, he issued a statement this week saying that he got a hole in one.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And there's a video. Oh, God. Even that. It's such a funny statement. It's the funniest. It's maybe one of the funniest statements he's released. I thought it was a bit when I first saw it. Because it was somebody like, it wasn't like a reporter.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Do you want to say it? It was somebody. And I read it and i was like there's no way this is i mean that's not any different than posting your no that's a thing like it was one of the things like this is clearly made up and then like it's real oh yeah of course it's real like it's both reactions instantaneously he did it it was a beautiful uh it's a beautiful shot um uh was there's one sorry there's one phrase in it that like really got me i hit a five iron which sailed magnificently into a rapid strong wind which is like you say you threw the
Starting point is 00:25:50 five iron the five iron sailed magnificently my favorite line from this is when he goes anyway there's a lot of chatter about it quite exciting and people everywhere seem to be asking for that. Anyway. Anyway. Yeah. And furthermore, golf is a land of contracts. Oh, our stupid former and potentially future president, Donald Trump. Very potentially. Siding on a new poll where Biden is losing against Donald Trump. Oh, we didn't even ask you to look into whatever Donald Trump talking, asking Putin for help
Starting point is 00:26:27 and information about Biden. That's just a Tuesday. I saw that and I was like, it's too busy of a week to include that in our research of Trump just asking Putin to release information about Biden right now. Well, he's also like he's done that before. Like he's just been like, hey, if you're watching, do some crimes for me, please. Putin, the most hated man in the world right now. Me and you, let's get a drink.
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Starting point is 00:29:40 It seemed more appropriate here as we are approaching this conversation, which means so much to the transgender and LGBTQ community in general, especially when they're trying to literally make it so that people can't see. make them invisible and not in the way where they're just like able to be members of society. It's really a harbinger for darkness to come. I don't know. It's really fucked up. And I think that I've seen so many arguments against this being a big deal as something that it's not a big deal. It's so that you don't have like sex education for kids that are too young to understand it. It doesn't even say gay in the bill. This is all just like propaganda to like make you mad at Florida or whatever. And it's really, really dishonest to frame it like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Because the main point I just wanted to make is that here's the text of the bill. Here's the text of the bill here's the text within the bill classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade three or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards uh first of all uh studies uh show that like kids like at age three, kids like identify with gender. Like that's the age where that sort of like divergence happens. So that's like part of it. But the main part is it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:31:14 If this argument against this was true, that like it's just it's just like you don't teach kids about sex at a young age. It says sexual orientation or gender identity. It doesn't say sexual education or sexual information or anything like that. It's specifically talking about orientation and gender identity because that's their target. Their target isn't like all sex or heterosexuality. It's this stuff. They don't, they're like,
Starting point is 00:31:40 they want to attack homosexuality, gender identity in this way and try to frame it like it's just we're not talking about sex. But if they were just talking about sex, it would say sexual education. Also, like what's like age appropriate? There's like it's so vague that it could apply to anything. That's because it's not a thing. Like the GOP in general aren't for anything. They need to be against something.
Starting point is 00:32:06 It's not, that's how they unite people. They need a boogeyman. I mean, we've talked about this on the show. I would argue both parties do, but they're different ones. Yeah, I mean, it's politic, but that's what this bill, this was this whole conversation is about. It's truly just a way, a unifying factor. It's creating something for everybody
Starting point is 00:32:26 to be afraid of. This isn't an issue. This is a non-issue for little kids, for anybody. But what this will do is create a lot of problems for teachers, for educators, for people if they accidentally disclose any personal information about themselves. There's lots of laws and bills being signed in lots of places along the lines of this that effectively silences them, and they will carry that brunt. But also, it's deeply detrimental to children's development. We're not teaching it in schools, but they're going to be curious. Kids ask questions they might
Starting point is 00:33:05 say you know and like you want to you you just they know they pick up on things when you're when something's taboo we are forming who they are also yes and also like the way this is being framed as like it's just about like sex education again then why does the text of the bill not say that it's like right it's like a laughable argument on its face it's very clearly what it's clear what's going on um but also the gop specifically but just they're they're like people the straights i think a lot of them sort of see like the existence of of like gay people and like the idea of sexual orientation as intrinsically like sexual it's talking about sex it's like a perversion uh if you see um uh two men or two women kiss in like a disney movie that's like you're shoving it down kids throats you're
Starting point is 00:33:58 you're like being overly sexual it's disgusting what you're doing and showing kids if you see the prince kiss snow white it's just just like, do people kiss him? Do these parents not kiss their partners? Well, right. Their spouses? That's like my point. Heterosexuality to them is like innocuous and just like it exists
Starting point is 00:34:15 and it's not like automatically sexual. But if you're talking about like gay people generally, that's in their minds, it's automatically the sexual thing that they want to keep like kids away from and uh it's like it speaks it speaks so much more to them than anything they're actually talking about yeah the people who jump to that like oh wow two men kissing and like in something that means you're like shoving this down the kids throats and trying to make them gay look
Starting point is 00:34:41 what do you what are you talking? They're children's movies and shows where a man and a woman kiss and that's not being like framed as this, as what this is. So it's just like very clear like what's going on and what they're trying to do. And it's going to get probably worse before it gets better.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I just wanted to mention that because the arguments I'm seeing about this are like, but look at the text of the bill it's not what you're saying it is it says sexual orientation doesn't say it's sex education you don't care about that i want to real quick i know i'm sorry to all of our listeners i'm going to read this ben shapiro tweet real quick oh boy i know i'm sorry um it's it's awful hold on okay so children are i'm not gonna do the voice children are malleable and thus vulnerable I'm sorry. It's awful. Hold on. Okay. So children are, I'm not going to do the voice.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Children are malleable and thus vulnerable. The left knows this. Their goal is to shape the sexual behavior and identification of children. They don't oppose the Florida bill because they misconstrue it. They oppose it because they seek the sexual indoctrination of children. This is the most disgusting thing I think he's ever tweeted. There's some racist stuff. There's some real bad shit that he's tweeted but like that's fucked up that's and he knows that he's lying it is a grotesque lie that he is telling to try to paint this entire like political ideology as as this is their goal there's no evidence of this it's ridiculous it's
Starting point is 00:36:01 gross um he knows it he's full of shit i hate him and i just wanted to read it because it's one of the like i read it i was like what the fuck are we doing this now because for so long uh him specifically but like a lot of conservatives uh were very against gay marriage and it's not because they like the sanctity of marriage or like the government bubble it's because they just they're bigots they hate gay people that's it and they don't want them to be able to like be in society in the way that everybody else is uh they lost that battle gay marriage is legal sorry you lost so they tried to sort of like shift this over to like the trans issues and trans people in sports and all this sort of stuff and like all right well we can't talk about gay marriage i'll just say i don't want
Starting point is 00:36:43 the government to be involved at all in marriage that's why i was against it and now it's this but now they're able to go back to the way things were like this tweet from him is like oh so you're you're like this is you're doing the hits now you're like back in your your true form of being just like a bigot who lies um and it's just fucked up. I do think you should have done the voice. Can we do it again and you do the voice? Okay, here we go. I will not be doing that.
Starting point is 00:37:13 I realized as you were reading that tweet that he does type in his voice. Yes, it's that stilted thing. Because it's like six words a sentence. Yeah, we had the joy of reading his um short stories recently holy shit he has our other podcast yeah they're real bad but yeah it's just so ben shapiro i also have his oozes it he has maybe cut this i have his pilot that he wrote
Starting point is 00:37:42 no wait will you send wait why would you cut it we've got that we've said it on worst year ever we have his pilot we're gonna do a reading sometime I would like to do a staged reading a live one for charity if we can get away with that legally I would really like to do
Starting point is 00:38:00 a live stream staged reading of it I have to read this is it a drama is it a half hour to do a live stream staged reading of it. I have to read this. Is it? You should share it. Is it a drama? Is it a half hour? Can't you fill them in? It's a, well, he would describe it as this, and I guess I will too.
Starting point is 00:38:13 It's a half hour drama comedy. Perfect. It's a comedy drama. Exactly. Oh, is that? That's right. It's the long, isn't it called? No, we're cutting that.
Starting point is 00:38:23 We can't spoil it for people. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Cut the title. You can bleep it. Bleep it if we have to. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Bleep it. That's funnier. It's the funniest title that could possibly be for what the show is. And I like playing a guessing game with people, basically. Like, here's what the show is about. What do you think he called it? But yeah, it's like, I would also say there's like a mockumentary aspect to it but like it's not oh god but he's not committed to it so it kind of goes back and forth in a way is it is it formatted well
Starting point is 00:38:55 it's formatted correctly okay um yeah so you know he nailed that stories were not his short stories were not formatted correctly short stories are were not read by a person before they were published. I mean, Ben Shapiro. Completely unedited format, like paragraphs are all over the place. It was a mess. But he wanted to be a TV writer. He came here for that. Still does.
Starting point is 00:39:16 That's why he's launching his anti-Disney. Well, they're doing their own like children's programming now, The Daily Wire. Good. They're spending like $100,000 on it or something like that. I bet they really- Or a million. I forget the number. Not talk about gender.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Or they'll talk about gender in the way like, there are only two. You're stuck with the one that you're born with. Yeah. I've only seen one cartoon from The Daily Wire, and it was racist. That was Thanksgiving? No. Yeah. Yeah, Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Columbus Day, Native Americans. Oh, no. Yeah yeah it was real bad i'm gonna pivot this back to um the news but it will still be fun and it is uh madison cawthorne that's right if you've been paying attention i do you guys know have you guys seen this okay north carolina red madison cawthorne had um a fun quote on the warrior poet society youtube show last week and i believe jonathan has a clip queued up for us yes the warrior poet society the sexual perversion that goes on in washington i mean it being kind of a young guy in washington with the average age of probably 60 or 70, and I look at all these people, a lot of them that I've looked up to through my life, always paid attention to politics, guys.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Then all of a sudden you get invited to, like, well, hey, we're going to have kind of a sexual get-together at one of our homes. You should come. And I'm like, what did you just ask me to come to? And then you realize they're asking you to come to an orgy. Or the fact that there's some of the people that are leading on the movement to try and remove, you know, addiction in our country. And then you watch them do, you know, a key bump of cocaine right in front of you. And it's like, wow, this is wild.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And then there's also kind of the whole espionage aspect. Espionage. I like how he, someone invited him to a, how did he describe it a sexual get together yeah yeah yeah he had to realize that was an orgy he really had to think about it right like surely there's a name for that um also as a uh john darnielle from uh from the mountain goats uh pointed out that like if you know the term key bump you've done one you know what an orgy like you've done oh yeah you've done a little bit of coke if you've if you know that terminology that's really funny but then didn't he walk this back yeah then he walked it back so but then he walked the walking backpack i think on wednesday cawthorne was summoned to a meeting with house minority leader kevin mccarthy and house minority whip steve scalise when press
Starting point is 00:41:50 he admitted that he either exaggerated or made up the story that those are first those are two different things yep they are two different things and which one is it he told mccarthy that he's like well i think i saw someone maybe someone, maybe a staffer, I don't know, in a parking garage 100 yards away do a bump of cocaine. Maybe. And he was just like, that's got to be Mitch McConnell. When he's talking, he's like, it's me. It's me.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I'm the one inviting people to orgies. I have to like, it's like, that's's such a fucking even that's a lie man you like you're on you're in like the end zone and you look the other end of the fucking football field and you see somebody like they're doing it they're doing a bit of cocaine right now what do you like what it's specifically a keep up like that's so 100 yards what do you what you said this on a youtube show would you did you think that people weren't going to know that you said that? Well, that's like, I mean, this is like post like Pizzagate. This is like, you know, like post, like you just say stuff and get away with it.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Right. Matt Gates probably like did a little sex trafficking. He's probably going to get away with that. He's just still in office, right? like did a little sex trafficking he's probably gonna get away with that um we elected we elected like the king of getting away with stuff when you're obviously doing it and saying whatever um so you know following suit i love this little thing that jonathan included um mccarthy told reporters that cawthorne quote lost my trust That's fun. It's funny he finally did that. Not the overthrowing of the federal government, blah, blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:43:30 but lying about group sex. The really weird desire to go on a Hitler tour of Europe, right? Didn't you really want to- Yes, I think. Yes, I went toler's vacation house and in his instagram was like i went to the fuhrer's house but then he also was like this guy was evil yeah he went to the eagle's nest and he said it was on his bucket list but then he was like this guy was evil weird 26 the eagles yeah oh okay okay well in that case yeah Yeah, he's 26. Jonathan, it is time. It is the time of the episode where we do the broken news.
Starting point is 00:44:08 No, broken news is where we theoretically go through them quicker, some stories, but we very rarely do. But Jonathan is going to try. We're going to try. It ends up being the same thing as the rest of the show. I want to play this clip of Jordan Peterson that went around this week. He was in conversation with Andy Ngo I'm just going to play it and get everyone's reactions
Starting point is 00:44:32 he looks great oh my god looks like he's doing really well I wanted to ask you about your knowledge, your background, your clinical experience, what is the psychology of this mob violence? When I see it, like I don't even recognize some of these. They seem animalistic is what I mean. No, they're worse than animals.
Starting point is 00:45:04 They're worse than animals because animals, they just kill to eat. Human beings, they have a twist in them that makes them far worse than animals when they really get going. Well, I think it's... You really want to know what I think? I think it's revenge against God
Starting point is 00:45:18 for the crime of being. Yes. That's really what I think. It's Cain and Abel. It's like, oh, Abel's your what I think. It's Cain and Cain and Abel. It's like, Oh, Abel's your, Abel's your guy.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Hey God, how about if I take him out in the field and beat him to death? How do you feel about that? All my sacrifices. Well, then he starts crying, right? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Yeah. It's like, yeah, that's what it is at the bottom of the hell of things. Okay. Okay. Okay. So much.
Starting point is 00:45:49 First off, this is an audio format, and I need you guys to understand how bad he looks. Like, he does look very bad, really thin and strung out. He looks so bad that his clothes look wet. Yes. and strung out he looked so bad that his clothes look wet yes there's like that like a flop sweat like bad it feels like all of his all the cloth on him is like damp and like just hanging on to bone so has he where has he been in his coma and then out so okay i i i've mentioned this i don't know if i've mentioned on the shows or just on our Patreon thing. But the – gosh. Maintenance phase. The podcast maintenance phase, which is a wonderful show that debunks health stuff and gets into it. There's a two-parter on Jordan Peterson because of his carnivore diet and his journey.
Starting point is 00:46:41 And it was interesting. I do recommend people listening to it. And his journey. And it was interesting. I do recommend people listening to it. And they talk about like some of his mental health stuff and like searching for an answer through diet and Michaela and her influence and how fucking bad it is. And then they started giving him like some heavy, heavy. He's like on heavy withdrawals of different medications and was put into a medicated coma. All that stuff. You guys know about this.
Starting point is 00:47:04 But he's fucked up. He's very clearly fucked up yeah and he's not well where like i want to talk about it delicately i guess because right you don't wish this upon anybody but he's not doing well and he seems to well up in tears at the drop of a hat about whatever. Like this is about Antifa being like jealous of like an angry at God for being. And like he does this all the time now. He used to like, it was just like, I'm going to talk about Pinocchio. I'm going to cry while I talk about Pinocchio. But it is just like any moment where he talks about this kind of stuff, he just like wells up. any moment where he talks about this kind of stuff he just like wells up and i just it like he's got this this like gnarled anxiety inside of him because he's so worried about the fate of
Starting point is 00:47:52 the world in a way that i think is really unhealthy um and then mixed yeah with like the like the benzo withdrawal and going into a medically induced coma and all this stuff. I do have to point out that humans aren't the only ones who, like animals don't only kill for food. Well-documented, there are many animals that kill for fun, that it's, what is it? I forget the term. It's like an overkill sort of thing
Starting point is 00:48:21 where like you just kill more than you need to to eat. And, you know dolphins rape like they're like his this idea like they're worse than animals is just not true and he has this habit of taking like not true things about biology or like evolution and applying it to society at large but also it's not antifa is out there murdering people because they can't control themselves like i haven't seen that well also andy no hangs out with fascists who like like tried to like beat the shit out of people like he's he's a he's a fascist propagandist which makes sense that peterson would go on his podcast or have him on his podcast um but uh yeah it's just such a it's such a weird little
Starting point is 00:49:06 moment um because also and another writer of ours tom ryman pointed this out um the thing he said about uh being angry at god for like what the curse of being or whatever um it's more or less a paraphrased quote paraphrased quote from tombstone the movie tombstone uh they're talking about uh the bad guy in tombstone and he's like yeah what do we do you know you can't like you can't do anything with a guy like that he just wants revenge revenge for what for being born like that's more or less just what he's saying um and i just thought that was funny also like he doesn't look that thrilled to be alive himself. No, he doesn't. Having a good go of it right now.
Starting point is 00:49:48 He's been plagued from an early age with these weird apocalyptic dreams that really weigh on him. And he thinks they're prophecies, basically. From what I understand, he did used to be just kind of a well-liked professor that was just kind of interesting and then lost his mind mostly yeah he got he got the spotlight right uh really leaned into the trans stuff um but also one thing so like he was well liked for most of his students they would like go to his lectures and like some students like cried when he stopped lecturing because they were so like powerful people would like do you guys know dave king he's a tv writer also uh i think he had jordan peterson as a professor yeah oh wow he's like he goes off on these tangents and talks
Starting point is 00:50:36 like broadly about stuff and he like tries to pull from everything um his mentor at uh university of toronto uh ended up getting uh noticing like little complaints from students basically like, yeah, sometimes in his lectures, he'll just like say stuff that's not true as if it's just assumed to be true. And he'll like go off on these tangents that aren't really accurate. And so he's this mentor started to go to his classes and be like, yeah, he's just sort of says stuff. So I think that's part of it. We're like students loved him because he would just pontificate on whatever. I'm sure he was entertaining. It would be wrong.
Starting point is 00:51:12 It would sound right. Well, if you listen to this maintenance phase and I think they do a good job of it's like, yes, painting out some of his mental health struggles and some of the issues that he's dealt with that. It's like, well, you almost want to have sympathy, but then you see what he is and what he does and what he, how he uses his platform is very conservative. You know, that's a nice way of putting it. Fucking doozies of opinions. But, but when you talk about it and you hear people, he ties things into these human experiences. So I can see how, especially before he's made his transformation that on the world stage with everybody paying attention i can see how as a professor he would
Starting point is 00:51:51 be engaging and a student might even say like oh he cares about me or he cares about the individual person because that's is what he's seeking he is seems seems to have been seeking answers to his own pain. And in that, has done a lot of damage to himself. Literally to himself and to his body. But to the world. But there is something in him that is desperately trying to get to the bottom of human condition. And answers for himself. Yeah, and he's got a lot of misinformation inside, you know, and answers for himself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:25 And he's got a lot of like misinformation inside of him too. Yes, he does. Sort of like he's got this obsession with like everything is like everything is connected in his mind in like these profound ways where it's like, no, that doesn't have to do with that. But he sees these connections and has this sort of like overarching like theory of the universe. and has this sort of overarching theory of the universe.
Starting point is 00:52:47 That feels like a whole, the new right wing, their new figures are people who clearly think. They think a lot and they're just really bad at it. It's not that they're, they have a lot going on. I don't think they're fully dumb. I think they're just bad at thinking and doing it a lot. Yeah, there's some critical thinking and just like basic yeah basic thought and sense where it's like why how do you make that connection what are you talking about um he also brings up kane all the fucking time
Starting point is 00:53:15 it's like ridiculous any situation he's like oh that's the mark of kane like okay is everything and to him it is everything like it all boils down he only got through the first few pages of the Bible. Right. That's his only reference. All right, Jonathan, give us another broken news to wrap this baby up. Sure. I wanted to share this tweet.
Starting point is 00:53:34 I don't know if you guys saw this from the Orange County, Florida Sheriff's Office. I did not. It says, while searching a vehicle where suspected hashtag fentanyl was found, three deputies became dizzy, deployed Narcan on themselves, and were taken to the hospital. They are doing well. If you question the dangers of fentanyl, this is how deputies must suit up to handle it.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Thanks at OC Fire Rescue. They deployed Narcan on themselves? Yes. That's how we're supposed to handle it? This is a photo of a guy in a hazmat suit getting hosed down. Then there's a photo of them like spraying a dog what's that what are those photos from is that from this from the situation these are yeah
Starting point is 00:54:11 these are the photos from this tweet of like how they had to handle fentanyl because I guess if you just like look at guess if you look if you just look at it this is I mean so first of all of course it's fucking Orange County um but like we did an entire episode about this issue and how Look at it. This is, I mean, so first of all, of course, it's fucking Orange County. But like we did an entire episode about this issue and how ridiculously wrong it is that this is not how like they're just having panic attacks.
Starting point is 00:54:40 They think that you can like overdose by looking at fentanyl or like touching it a little bit. And so they have panic attacks and then they have to do this stuff to assuage their panic attacks because they think that what's happening is they're od on fentanyl that's does narcan work for panic attacks that sounds great can i just self do it at home can i have access to it there fully has matted up here but this stuff has been like going on for years where there'll be an officer, a little bit got on his sleeve and they brushed it off and then he collapsed or something. This was debunked years ago with every realistic physician saying, that doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Brushing a small amount of powder off a uniform does not make you- It's just not how it happens. It's always just like dizziness. It's always some sort of dizziness, but they keep doing it. It doesn't seem to have affected them that it's been proven. I would be very dizzy if I was wearing a hazmat suit with a mask covering it, and I was standing in the hot California sun. I think that's probably more likely what's happening here.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Am I wrong? At least this was Orange County, Florida. Hot Florida, son. Not Orange County, California. Oh, I totally read that. As someone who grew up in Orange County, California, I always check to make sure it's Florida. Are they the same?
Starting point is 00:55:57 Are they similar? I feel like they're similar. I think they're similar. Orange County, Florida is a little more Florida-y than Orange County, California. Yeah, sure. From my perspective. Well, that's fun.
Starting point is 00:56:08 That's fun. I'm so glad they survived the fentanyl. Yeah, because they were not going to otherwise. They weren't going to. Because they were searching a car with suspected fentanyl. So did they think they touched it on the seats or something?
Starting point is 00:56:23 They didn't find it, did they? It doesn't say anything about how they found fentanyl so like did they think they like touched it on the seats or something they didn't find it did they it doesn't say anything about how they found fentanyl just said they were looking for it in the car i don't know they're the sheriff's department i trust it they'll figure it out they're doing fine okay okay this feels like a good place to wrap it up an orange county fentanyl we brought it home noah so nice to have you here with us today you're very fun you're very smart tell our listeners where they can find you online and you can find me online at on twitter i'm at noah garfinkel spelled el at the end there's that a common mistake people make yes and there's also there's a journalist for axios also named noah garfinkel but he's noah garf but that really has been confusing people
Starting point is 00:57:12 lately it's it's tough this is a name that only one person should have i'm thinking about it they're gonna be one doesn't have to be me but yeah i don't there just should be one i have no interest in keeping it for myself there's multiple dan levy's in the entertainment sphere and that's very difficult that is like i know that is very difficult which oh do you know one of the i wonder if we know the same i knew probably the dan levy that lives here i knew him a long time ago i just hit my own mic sorry to the listeners um if you said my name he'd know who i was i'm sure but we're not really close anyway but for but for him i'm sure that's tough i mean my name is jonathan harris there you if you google me you gotta go to like page six
Starting point is 00:58:00 and there's a there's a someone with my same middle name who's a murderer who was convicted of murder a few years back I got a murderer too I got a murderer too I feel like Cody is not a good murderer name it's not it's really bad it doesn't really strike fear into the heart
Starting point is 00:58:20 it's a very affable name it's a puppy dog name I try there's also a country music singer but I think it's a very affable name you should it's a puppy dog name i am i try uh there's also a country music singer but i think it's johnson i've got a i've got a country music singer but i get i do get uh dms every once in a while of like i saw you last night it was so great i'm so glad you played this and this and this yeah thank you i also wish i could play music for a living i think i think the only katie stole i have is a therapist and she's in san diego okay that feels right maybe we maybe we should have that she's the right one usually i am i when i
Starting point is 00:58:52 was early in my career and i i like googled myself i was mad at her but now i see her there was a point i shouldn't say now i'm involved past this there's a point where i started burying her in the search results and I was like that's great. I don't know if we should include this but there was just something in me that was like makes you feel powerful. I would love to hear what Jordan Peterson would think about that.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Paint for yourself. So you're Cain and the therapist is Abel. I'm sorry Katie Stoll. We interrupted you plugging your work and your cell phone. I promise we're finished. I said this before.
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