Some More News - What's At Stake In The Midterms And EVEN MORE Elon Musk Actually Buying Twitter

Episode Date: October 28, 2022

Hi. On today's episode, Katy and Cody talk about the upcoming midterm elections, what Republicans are likely to do if they take the House, and the media's framing of the Fetterman-Oz debate. Plus, they chat about Elon Musk finally actually really taking over Twitter, and give each other TV recommendations. Please fill out our SURVEY: https://kastmedia.com/survey/ Support us on our PATREON: http://patreon.com/somemorenews Check out our MERCH STORE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/somemorenews?ref_id=9949 SUBSCRIBE to SOME MORE NEWS: https://tinyurl.com/ybfx89rh   Subscribe to the Even More News and SMN audio podcasts here: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/some-more-news/id1364825229 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ebqegozpFt9hY2WJ7TDiA?si=5keGjCe5SxejFN1XkQlZ3w&dl_branch=1 Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/even-more-news  Follow us on social media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/SomeMoreNews Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/SomeMoreNews/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SomeMoreNews/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somemorenews  Athletic Greens is going to give you an immune supporting FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase if you visit https://athleticgreens.com/morenews today. Prose is the healthy hair regimen with your name all over it. Take your FREE in-depth hair consultation and get 15% off your first order today at https://prose.com/morenews. #somemorenews #andrewyang #forwardpartySupport the show!: http://patreon.com.com/somemorenewsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

why hello there and welcome back to even more news the first and only news podcast how did we like this voice perfect we're spitting smooth jazz even more news after our more news coming at you i'm katie my name is katie stole hi katie stole i'm cody johnston welcome to midnight news night news on the ones and twos all right you cool cats and kittens we got no no guests. I'm going to stop. We don't have a guest this week. It's just us. Hi, just us. Hi, just us. And Jonathan. Hi.

It's true. Who could forget that Jonathan was here? I guess I forgot to introduce you. But we don't when there's another guest. Yeah, which is normal and fine. Does that hurt your feeling? No, it doesn't at all. Because I'm here to provide

information and sometimes transition us to the next topic and a joke that sometimes gets cut way more than that but for example these holidays you gave us these holidays i gave you three well you you you collected them You didn't make them. Yeah. No, I didn't invent these three holidays. Usually I do. These ones come from one of the websites. National Jonathan's Great Day.

This first one is interesting. October 27th is National Civics Day. Okay. This is fun. Jonathan, you can read this. I'm not going to pretend like I pulled this. You pulled pulled this tell us about it uh this is the quote from them the long island university's roosevelt school and the society of presidential descendants founded national civics day in 2021 to celebrate the importance of civic education as a foundation for a strong democracy. The Society of Presidential Descendants

is a thing that exists? Hell yeah. Oh, yes. Their president is Tweed Roosevelt, great-grandson of Theodore Roosevelt. Their vice president and chief of staff is Massey McKinley, the great-great-grandson of Grover Cleveland and a great-great-nephew of William McKinley.

Awesome presidential inbreeding there. Real solid first names for these presidential descendants. Real, like, 18th century style names they've held on to. I can tell you one thing about the Society of Presidential Descendants.

I never want to be at a dinner party with them. I do not think these people would be any fun. You don't want to hang out with Tweed? I mean, it is a good name. It is a good name for like a cat. Great name.

Yeah, cool cat. For anyone. I don't need to do a... A cool cat named Tweed Roosevelt, great grandson of Theodore Roosevelt. Actually, Tweed Roosevelt, just that's a name right there. October 27th is also

National American Beer Day. American beer. Do we like American Beer Day. American beer. Do we like American beer? Sure. Sure. Why not? If we like beer. Drink beer with a presidential descendant?

Okay. Yeah. Grab a Yingling, you know? And finally, October 28th is International Animation Day. International Animation Day. International Animation Day. That's fun. That's a fun thing to celebrate on a Friday. Yeah. Hop in your After Effects or your Mojo or whatever it is

you use to animate and celebrate the day by taking an image and manipulating it so it moves through time. That's animation. Or watch WALL-E. Or watch WALL-E. All it so it moves through time that's animation or watch watch wally or watch wally uh all uh didn't like some like disney executive come out like today or yesterday and be like cartoons aren't for adults yeah bob chapek came out and said after you watch an animated film with your kids and they

go to sleep you're not going to watch another animated film by yourselves this guy does not know his audience news for that guy we have an entire phrase for adults that do that and it's disney adult right right there in the name all content now is like cartoons and comic books and stuff so the ceo of disney should know who his audience is. There's also like an entire like network that was like. Cartoon network? Yeah, but like they have Adult Swim. It's like a part of their programming is, by the way, like adults watch cartoons too. So, I mean, it's too silly of a thing to even like on its face statement. So absurdly wrong.

It's surprising that he has the job that he has yeah well i mean he's he's also like he's right and he's wrong right we're like yeah like kids cartoons aren't for adults like you don't need to be watching all the kid cartoons over and over again like there's like there's animation but i'll push back on that fully because we all know that understand that animated films a lot of them are are exquisite and are written for children but are also enjoyable for adults oh sure you know i don't have a child and i loved coco you know right there's multiple it's like but i mean i get on its face of the idea of like yeah you, we're not watching, you know, Powerpuff Girls, but also you're wrong. You might be. People love it.

But like, Bluey is for kids. Finding Nemo is for everyone. And then like Mad God on Shudder is for adults. There you go. All animation. I bet if you smoke enough weed, Bluey? Gluey? What's his name?

Bluey. Bluey? Dewey, Bluey? Gluey? What's his name? Bluey. Bluey? Dewey. Bluey. Bluey. I'm going to call him Gooey. Smoking enough weed and Gooey is great at night, too. For an adult human.

Oh, that's what? It was referenced on Abbott Elementary. That's how I know what that is. Oh, I just started watching Abbott Elementary. Do we want to talk about TV before we talk about the midterms? I don't know. Do we? We can. I don't know. I like TV. It's good. I'm enjoying Abbott Elementary. Do we want to talk about TV before we talk about the midterms? I don't know. Do we? We can.

I don't know. I like TV. It's good. I watch it. I'm enjoying Abbott Elementary is what I'm saying. Yeah, it's a nice comfort show. I am looking for great show recommendations from anybody. I will say there are a few times in Abbott Elementary where I feel like they forget they're

doing a mockumentary and they include these scenes or shots where it's like, they just like walk down the hallway like they're in an aaron sorkin thing and they're following they're following the king so like the thing was like that's not that's you're just filming a scene like a show you're not doing a mockumentary i mean there's several seasons deep by now yeah i don't know what point they're on two now i think oh i thought we were on like more than that nah well never mind ignore me dragon show oh you're not watching dragon show i watched dragon show yeah how did you feel about dragon show i won't spoil anything he's not gonna spoil anything no i liked it a bit dark i checked all TV settings. I think the show's just intentionally very dark. They don't want you to see what's happening a lot of the time. I'm sure people will be like, nope, you're an idiot and don't know how to set your TV. Nope, everyone's been saying it. Mine was dark. I just dealt with it.

But I enjoyed the season. They got me. I like people fighting over the throne. You know what I say. I like a dragon show It turns out we all knew this I spent a lot of time talking about it the final season on this show true, so Yeah, but watching the Sandman show. Oh, I haven't started that one. That's a good idea. I thoroughly enjoyed it I was a big fan of the Comics when they came out It's like the first comic book I ever read, like introduced me to the world of comic books.

And they're doing a very, they did a great job. I hope they do more. Go watch it so they can do more. All right. It's good. I also heard the Lord of the Rings show is good. I've also heard that.

So here's a confession that I have for everyone. And you're going to be so mad at me. Go for it. Our viewership, listenership. I haven't watched all the movies um it's one of those things that kind of happened and then everyone's talking about it and then you know they come out and you're like well i should watch the first one and then i don't know

it's just that's the way it's been and then i worked at cracked and boy am i embarrassed for having got through there, having never sat down. But I haven't. And it's right up my alley, so I should. But my question is, do I have to do that before I watch the show? I mean, if you haven't watched the movies, you probably shouldn't watch the show, because the show is even more deep into, like, Tolkien lore. Yeah.

And isn't as, like, I would say it's less accessible. I'll tell you what that just did that sounded like a goddamn challenge Jonathan but the movies are so fantastic and they will take you less time to watch maybe than that actually the show is 8 episodes about the same

I'm just going to watch the movies even as I was doing that it's because I've had the last couple years of pandemic life has shifted in something in me fundamentally so i don't sit down and watch movies but i still sit down and watch tv um it's probably because the tv is view like yeah to view it like a tv show yeah but i just have to give myself permission extended versions oh yeah give yourself a real treat i think the key is to give myself permission to treat it like it like pause it and walk away i've had this epiphany before but anyway you can

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Welcome back to the TV Central. We never throw to the first ad break, so I've never experimented with coming back from the first ad break. So I don't know that back works. That's how we do it every episode. I don't know what you're talking about. So we are very close to the midterms. Midterm elections? Yeah.

It's wild. Time flies when you're having congress fun and other stuff and other stuff yeah that's what's happening political office midterms perhaps the biggest election of our life oh i hear that every fucking two years i haven't heard that before i haven't heard too much of it this time but i have seen it yeah you know what jonathan if it ain't broke don't fix it why don't you tell us where to start she's feeling sassy and fun today guys yeah i'd love to so right now i kind of want to talk about the the vibe of the midterms because you may have noticed that it's time for a vibe check yeah well the vibe check after the Dobbs ruling was

like, oh, maybe Democrats won't do so bad as incumbent parties usually do at the midterms. And then the last few weeks has been like, ah, this one poll showed this one thing. And there's a little bit of narrowing as tends to happen. And that means everyone's going to vote Republican now because of the inflation and the gas prices shrug emoji. So I would love to ask for both of your thoughts on if you think the vibe is off or if you think we've all just been deluding ourselves and it's going to be red wave. Man, the vibe's been off and it's going to stay off for a while. What does that even mean mean though i do agree the vibe's been off and it's been off for a while it's been off for a while and it's gonna stay off i mean no matter what the fuck

happens the vibe is is is whack it's like every every day there's a new like you're saying like yo this poll says this well today another poll said the fucking opposite so maybe nobody technically knows anything and literally things could change in a day or seven days who knows what will happen because that's just how it is like you can you know the prediction game's like yeah there's a 80 chance of this well what's the 20 that happened oh we were wrong no you were right because that's how probability works i don't know we just have these conversations every election and in between every election all the time. And if I mean, I feel like we said this last week or the week before, but. When do we learn to not the polls don't really mean much of anything to me.

The polls have been wrong a lot and you know things change also polls influence polls right if you're if you're you and media coverage of media coverage of the polls exactly exactly that's the point is like the polls are really just this play thing of the media something to write about something to point to in the dramatic escalation of tension which is to them money because the tension is clicks are clicks you know and it's very fucking frustrating to see how much of the conversation is truly just driven by what's a headline what's worthy of a headline not that there aren't incredibly important things going on everywhere all the time but with so much noise about all this other stuff you're

kind of distracting from it you know anyway that's a broad observation well but in a lot of ways this is broad observation broad observation a lot of ways jonathan sorry no you know in a lot of ways this is kind of like a regular like the media is treating this like a regular midterm when of course we know like oh this is the future of representative democracy you know it feels like it's anything but because of what the people who are likely to win want to do to the ability to vote in the future and how their states states give out electoral votes and all those things. But reasonably looking at this, it looks like it's going to be standard that Republicans are going to make a lot of gains the way the opposition party usually does.

And depressing how cyclical we are, isn't it? Yeah. But we knew this. We've known this. We've known this from the second everyone took took office in 2020 that you actually have two years to do your shit because you're not going to keep it in the midterms and yeah it does frustrate me when you know the promises of like well if we get through the midterms and we keep our majority we win we'll codify roe you mother you sorry, Jonathan, you were saying something and I interrupted you. No, you were affirming what I was saying, that this is the cyclical thing. People look at the economic news that the media chooses to report on and how they choose to report on it. And they say, well, the economy is not doing great.

It looks like we're going into a recession. Inflation is a huge concern that reflects on uh the party in power and that's why the other side's going to make a bunch of gains and so all the stuff that we're talking about and are going to talk about now what republicans are going to do if they win the house all these debates like the most likely outcome is republicans make significant gains but maybe not as big of gains as they hope. And then there's two years of gridlock, and then we see what the situation looks like for voting in 2024.

That's fun. Okay, so let's talk about what Republicans are likely to do. That seems to be the reality we are... Yeah, they'll crack down on wokeness, right? It's about damn time, by the way. Yeah yeah we can finally get our mr potato head back let me be asleep uh no they'll try to like ban trans people from like society right like they're gonna try all the all the like all the culture wars stuff and that's not even culture war stuff it's like civil rights that they've like are allowed about and complain about constantly and do these like little bills that they know are not going to like

pass they're going to get a situation where they either have to pass them and then become very unpopular or not and become unpopular with their base is what is one scenario i don't know well right and also that completely messes up the narrative, right? If the narrative is, well, people are putting Republicans in power because of the economy. They're not going to do anything. Of course not. Economically, they're going to investigate Hunter Biden and yeah, crack down on wokeness. Yeah.

I mean, that's the main thing. The investigations. It does feel. Yeah, there's going to be a lot of um i mean yeah they want they again they say they do but who knows it's one of those similar things with roe v wade where like they got what they wanted and like ah do we gotta do this now like are they gonna try to impeach joe biden right is that gonna is that like a popular thing in america like because people like i think that would be a mistake it would well because people don't like

joe biden necessarily like broadly um his you know his approval is generally low but they're not like aside again aside from like that 20 like republican base base or whatever, they're not like, oh, he's like a criminal that needs to go to prison. We got to get him out. There's like, yeah, he's like kind of a bumbling old man who is not a great president is like the worst criticism of him, I guess. Aside from the people who think he's. Yeah, I don't think that that would be a smart choice, but there will be investigations. You know, there's certainly the Hunter Biden of it all. There's also the January 6th

committee investigations which have been ongoing. I mean, maybe they'll be done by, I don't think so. I mean, they're planning to wrap it up. They did their last hearing and I'm sure they'll release a report being like Trump shouldn't ever be president again. But then the committee officially gets

disbanded as soon as Republicans take control of the House again. I've said this before. They aren't for anything. What they want to do is... They're for being against something. They're for... They need an enemy. And it's disgusting.

Yeah, the left wants to affirmatively do things to make people's lives better and the right runs on vote for us to avoid this scary thing happening that exists in your mind and like it's not and look you elected us and the scary thing didn't happen but it is still happening so you have to keep voting for us they have to like live with this like this like contradictory dichotomy at all times well and yeah like and you know democrats have not the same thing but like where it's just like you know we can't get can't get gotta get the bad republicans out otherwise like we're not gonna be able to do anything and then they kind of do some stuff it's true i mean you you got to be able to say it democrats yeah. Yeah. But it's not the same. It's not the same.

But, you know, it's like different sides of different coins. But like, it's the same bank. And the truth is, same piggy bank, different coins, different sides. So frustrating. I don't know. Frustrating. No, I get it. And in general, I mean, you know, I get where you're going with it.

I could because I don't. I don't know. I can't speak about what everybody in America thinks and feels, but I sure would like a government that didn't put on plays. Not left or right, but forward. But forward. Yeah. You'll never get a government that doesn't put on plays.

They love it. They love their little theater. I mean, the full of it was like put on, you can put on plays, but like just do it like at summer stock or something you know maybe a christmas fest but in the meantime let's get some actual work done and i'd like to have a say in what plays they put on because this one isn't entertaining i'd like a comedy i'd like like um some sort of farce i was gonna say a fumbling comedy of errors yeah you know or like noises off mistaken identity stuff like wouldn't that be fun to see noises off but set in the chambers or something all right moving on so i want to ask because like the thing that's on my mind a lot is the like worst case

scenario over the next several years which which is that Republicans make enough gains that they control the House and the Senate, and they take over the governorships of Arizona and maybe Pennsylvania. And Wisconsin has a Republican supermajority in the state legislature, etc. And I'm just like to play out this worst case scenario, then we get to 2024. And it's Biden versus Trump. And Biden again, wins by several million votes and wins a bunch of states. And then the Supreme Court in, is it Morphe Harper says, oh, state legislatures can do whatever they want. And they legitimate, they basically do a bloodless coup and they throw out the legitimate votes and put Trump or DeSantis, I suppose,

into power. I think that's like the worst case scenario that we all envision. And I don't know what the realistic chances are of that happening. And I want to know what you think about that. Semi realistic. I mean, they're very straightforward and open in various ways about what they want to do and what they're trying to do. I don't know the number if you had to if you had to guess a percentage because like 36 would make me feel better than 80 yeah i don't think it's like 80 well because also like about like 65 because as much as much i just

made that up as much as like there's um ineffectual governance and gridlock and inability to take stances and so on. I do feel like this aspect of it is going to be very hard for these clowns to actually accomplish because there is so much quote unquote resistance to this specific thing. to this specific thing like i just don't think that as much as much as like our institutions are some could posit crumbling and ineffective and like uh having uh problems i don't think they're ineffectual in stopping this kind of thing and and the republicans are also clunky in how they go about these things as well it's not a sure thing that like oh well they won they made these gains in the midterms therefore it's it's we're in this fascism world right but also they have the supreme court they have like all these you know they do have control of institutions that would allow this to happen too but then you also have these scenarios where like you know ah they

the one the one time they protected democracy you know uh and then they can be praised for that for that one thing and then do all the other stuff they want to do so i don't know i feel like as it gets if it you know the chips are down it comes down to that i think a lot of them you know not the marjorie taylor greens of the world but people who were shitty but slightly more reasonable in that respect wouldn't necessarily let that happen but i also think that maybe that's not true yeah it i'm going back and forth just listening to you talk i don't know because like they've made the moves you know and they wanted they wanted to do this uh in 2020 and they saw the roadblocks that stopped them from doing that uh and they are trying to remove those roadblocks and their

success is dependent on so many different factors that it's just really hard to even give a number right because i would still say it's low because i'm as uh you know yelly and cynical and negative i am on the you know the youtube i'm also a hopeful optimistic person and uh think you still feel that way i do think better things are possible and like people are good and we can do it. You know, we can do it. Here's. But also people are bad and they can do it. Like on the ground.

I talk a lot about having moved to kind of a conservative area. Kitty, you moved. Sorry to let you know this way. Why weren't you listening the other times I told you? But people. Better things are possible. People are. the other times i told you but people better things are possible people are people don't love everything that conservatives or republicans do people don't necessarily love donald trump

you know the vast majority of people that voted for him it's not that it has to be this way but it's about whether or not this the few of the ugliest successfully push it that way but people hate what's happening to the republican party you know not all of them this is generalizations but it's not i don't think it's written in stone the way things can progress but it is unfortunate that we have had such a recent display of how close it can come and yeah things are stacked against us the supreme court yeah judges in general and these moves abroad too like we see it happen elsewhere yeah so it's it's like but then you know you know that these things are made up of all sorts of players and participants and people distracted

by this shiny thing and then unknowingly uh helping along with the destruction of the democracy it's like there's a lot of things that have to happen, but I don't think that it's necessarily the worst case scenario. We're going to take a quick break. I need it. You need it. You all need it. But then don't worry.

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Yeah. The land of Oz. Some sort of joke about that. Man. Great and powerful. Fucking Oz wins. God. Oprah's got.

I know this is a joke that has been made or observation, but fucking Oprah, man. Dr. Phil. Dr. Phil. That guy sucks. Come on. Anyway. Right. So the John Fetterman-Memman Mehmet Oz debate was earlier this week.

I think we've mentioned before on the podcast that John Fetterman had a stroke some months ago. He is recovering and doing much better, but he does have some auditory processing issues. And sometimes he mashes some words together. He does not have a loss of mental acuity he just has trouble forming words and so sometimes he stumbles over his words and that was very present uh during the debate and it's what a lot of uh the media decided to focus on in this debate instead of the content uh what they were saying so upsetting and, you know, on the left, everybody talking and unpacking whether or not this man is fit to serve. We've got lots of candidates out there that actually legitimately don't make sense. But what we were witnessing this week was someone who has suffered an ailment and has been recovering. And we all understand what that means. And it doesn't affect him anything other than his speech, his speaking. And it's a high tent. Anyway, go ahead, Cody. issue, we would see the same thing. You rally behind your party and vote for the person who you think represents your values because that's how they're going to vote. It's actually incredibly easy to just show up and vote for things. And, you know, I've seen a lot of

people like, well, being in Congress is like fucking easy ass job. And to a degree, it really is because you have big staff doing most of the work reading bills relaying information and stuff but no matter who it is really even if he was worse off uh you'd still see this thing of like well the right's gonna say it's like a big problem and uh democrats are gonna be like well you know it's fine we're going to vote for him because we know he represents our our values but i just uh the way that it's being talked about is pretty gross and not really representative of it because like you were saying like it's just this sort of uh some uh speech issues and recognition there are two quotes that i think illustrate the grotesque nature of

this discourse uh and i have seen people lament like you know uh who are like big fetterman fans back like earlier who were like if you like listen to him speak before this stroke like it was like he was incredible and very passionate and i think i've seen people sort of lament that that like it's not a problem but it's uh you know it's it's a shame it's an unfortunate shame and honestly the the biggest shame is that he's going through this you know outside of of his effectiveness as a politician like that's for myself this is i i think about that like he's going through a huge challenge while also working towards a very, very, very important goal. And there's so much criticism. I'm sorry, I'm not being the most

articulate today about this subject, because I have so many thoughts. And I found I'm so frustrated. But you know, you understand, he's worked so hard, and he's overcoming this, this illness. And, you know, and he has the support of his doctors and his team. And there is criticism from all sides about how he should have handled this. The media coverage now is he should have had six debates instead of one big debate. He shouldn't have debated at all. He should have said this. He should have done that.

Like this person is navigating something where no matter what way he did it, he would be pulled apart. What we don't need are people just creating headlines and sensational articles that are picking apart whether or not this man is fit when we know that he is. And you can just look also to the precedent of how many senators, you know, perhaps somebody hadn't just had a stroke running for office maybe that part's new but we have a long history of senators having being senators serving after strokes after heart attacks while having brain tumors diane feinstein has been i i'm sorry i don't know i i don't need to make claims about dianne Feinstein, but we all understand that she hasn't been effective for a while and she won her election.

So it's all very bad faith to me. Yeah. Well, and yes, it is. And, you know, again,

if it's like, just keep going back to like, yeah, if it were reversed, it'd be the same thing, right? If it was a different, if it was Republican candidate or not not because ultimately what this decision is does this john fetterman

candidate represent your values is he going to vote with your values or dr oz those are the two choices that exist um and so it like when you really get down to it, it's like, yeah, don't care. This is this is how politics are. You who represents your values the most. And as we've said many times, it's just this sort of auditory issue and some some speech issues. But there's these two quotes. And obviously they come from sources that aren't going to be surprising that they would say this this kind of thing because it's right wing media and they're going to frame it as terrible as possible but i just think it's sort of emblematic of like the the issue about this there's one brian kilmeade on fox news uh what an insult it is to people and this is sort of uh about what we said earlier like yeah it's

an easy job it's fine you can you can do it without uh this communication uh issue but uh what what an insult it is to people who are in the senate who think that you can do the job if you go to a job interview and you say i had a stroke five months ago and you can't interact with that person they will not hire you um a few things first of all uh it is a pretty easy job and these same people would say that if it were anybody if somebody else um like they're it's just pick and choose with them uh any day of the week but just like if you're saying if you go to a job interview and you say you had a stroke five months ago and you can't interact with that person they will not hire you and that very well may be

true uh if you had a stroke five six months ago and you go to a job interview and you have trouble communicating that person might not hire you um but brian kill me doesn't have a problem with that um he's not saying it like and isn't that like an issue like if you have a stroke like you are out of work and like you can't communicate and that we don't have the you know things in place to help you uh communicate better so you can do the job that you're capable of doing these sort of things he's not talking about in that way he's just like yeah ah you know they wouldn't it wouldn't work like this in this world so like it's fine you know yeah it's sort of forgiving things and scenarios that aren't great because that's the way it is right it's such a missed opportunity for us to be having a conversation about this because so many people suffer from strokes or

certain things and we and we just discount them all of a sudden they're not productive in some capacity even though they are and what's frustrating about the conversation that is happening is that it just leaves out the experience of millions and millions of Americans who now might have an opportunity to say like, yeah, I struggle with auditory communication and I actually would be greatly improved if my employment had offered me software that would help me in my team meetings so that I could continue to communicate and be a part of it. Yes, this is actually an issue right now that we could say because this person is more than capable of of doing his job he's been cleared by his doctors as fit and healthy to work and uh the only thing that we're mocking or or questioning is something that is common for a lot of americans And, and we should be actively talking about how

to improve this. And it's optical. It's all optics and vibes. Yeah, it's optics and vibes. It's not reality. And there's a landmark piece of legislation in this country to provide accommodations for people with auditory processing issues and many other disabilities like there's nothing that would prevent him from doing this job and so that's kind of why the framing is so dishonest so when like when when tucker carlson goes on tv and calls him mentally defective which is incredibly offensive and says that if he wins you should then know that it was stolen because who would vote for him like it's not it's like so offensive and intellectually dishonest because he's he knows exactly what's going on yes exactly um yeah they all do and uh but they don't care because

again the uh the other candidate aligns with their values more so they're gonna say whatever they can to make sure that that person dr oz uh gets into office right like it's and if it was switched tucker carlson would say something else he'd be like well doctor you know dr oz uh sure he you know has trouble talking but it doesn't mean this this like he would be doing the same thing exactly this i won't get into it too much because uh it's all gross um but fucking ben shapiro of the daily wire uh complaining about like oh the media narrative is that john federman's fine and now it's john federman may not be fine but he's fine enough to be in the senate and so on and now he says after last night's debate the media have already swiveled to it's totally fine to have a non-functional stroke victim in the Senate.

Non-functional stroke victim? What a weaselly little guy that man is. Like, that's so gross and dishonest to frame it like that. But again, they're all going to do it. That's not what he is at all. Yeah. But I just had to. I don't even want to talk about it too much more. But like I saw that today. to do it. That's not what he is at all. Yeah. But I just had to. I don't even want.

I don't want to talk about it too much more. But like I saw that today. I was like, that's gross. And a lie. Is non-functional stroke victim a thing? Is that something he made up? Is that a classification for somebody that's just. Yeah.

I mean, it would be offensive even if someone had had the kind of stroke that had left them bedridden. It's awful. Exactly. So, I don't know. Good luck to Mr. Fetterman. Seems like he'd be good for Pennsylvania, unlike New Jersey's Dr. Oz. Dr. fucking Oz. It's absurd.

Who, and everyone listening probably knows this, but who thinks that local political leaders should be the one to help decide what happens in. What is that answer? He didn't have to give that answer. No, it's a huge clip. Yeah. Let me play the clip. The question is, should abortion be banned except in cases of rape, incest or to protect a mother's life? This is the question he's answering.

As a physician, I've been in the room when there's some difficult conversations happening i don't want the federal government involved with that at all i want women doctors local political leaders living the democracy that's always allowed our nation to thrive to put the best ideas forward so states can decide for themselves he didn't have to say that but i guess maybe he did because he knows like the line he has to toe but uh the idea that a physician is like i want local political leaders to be at involved in these decisions is just so bizarre for an actual doctor to say letting and he is he is an actual doctor how how ben carson's a doctor, you know? Weren't his books like, he had these bestsellers in the aughts that were like, you, the instruction

manual, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, like, yeah, you, the owner's manual. You, the owner's manual. You, staying young. Yeah. I mean, it's all like, he transitioned to, yeah, celebrity, a little self-help doctor man pretty quickly.

What makes local political leaders more qualified to decide what i do with my body than the federal government the answer is neither of them are yeah he acted so offended that the federal government might be involved but like the town mayor sure why not yeah the yeah the cat mayor we're gonna move on elon musk is actually buying twitter tell us about it uh that i mean he's like there there's photos of him at their little coffee bar he made a dad pun god that was so embarrassing he got someone to get him a sink and he said let that sink in when he was carrying it's so embarrassing it's very it's it's just a best of pun also if you i know but if you it's not look at literally embarrassing any of his tweets go to the replies and somebody makes that specific pun it's just a it's just

it's just for his reply guys it's so's so... You mean like they say let that sink in with a sink? They say let that sink in and it's a picture of a sink at the door. Like it's just this like weird LeBacon Reddit shit that his audience and fans eat up and he's like, I'm going to fucking feed them the slop. Give me a sink. Time to slop it down their gullets. This is going to be so funny. And they fucking ate it up. Let's slop it down their gullets this could be so funny

let's gonna light up twitter but check this out because someone must have gotten his ear and say well you're gonna need to make a lot of money and make this thing profitable because you you're paying 44 billion and you're taking on like debt you are now gonna owe like banks a billion dollars a year or something so he posts uh to twitter a letter today that says dear twitter advertisers and it has this quote which i love twitter obviously cannot become a free-for-all hellscape where anything can be said with no consequences in addition to adhering to the laws of the land our platform must be warm and welcoming to all where you can choose your desired experience according to your preferences just as you can choose for example to see movies or play video games ranging from all ages to mature

so like it's just like so you're gonna have like little but like tabs at the top like here's your main feed uh like click over to nazi twitter like what do you like what is your plan i don't know how everyone got this idea that i was going to turn this place into a free-for-all hellscape it's a real chin scratcher and like we've talked about this before uh in probably like on this podcast and in our several episodes about elon must but like this was always going to be the case. He said the things that he knew he needed to say to get his little sloppy fans excited about him, like, bringing everybody back. But ultimately, he knew, and he knows now more than any time, maybe,

that you have to consider some sort of moderation on social media platforms, especially, especially as you pointed out, Jonathan, if you want to make money, if you want this to be profitable, which he desperately needs it to be. Now, advertisers aren't going to want to advertise on your fucking Nazi site.

If that's what you're going to do, which is not what he's going to do. And it probably never was. It's just very funny. I feel confident saying that this whole thing was a huge mistake for him yeah i mean a major miscalculation it feels like like he didn't seem to realize he wouldn't he couldn't just get bored of this and walk away it's like no there's a company that's gonna sue you you signed a contract to pay tens of billions of dollars why would you do why would you do that and without thinking like everything that

for the memes the unbelievable tangled web that he has purchased for himself that's only going to get sticky on his hands if he tries to untangle it he also does not have time to run another company. The guy is ostensibly busy. He should be. He has time to play Elden Ring poorly. He has time to buy another company. Facebook's losing some money. Maybe he can buy that next. Yeah, Facebook not doing well.

Well, they shouldn't have promised legs. They shouldn't have. I mean, the legs, it looks a little more normal with legs this must be the best week ever at tesla because they can like maybe get some things done they don't have like they don't have some guy sending emails storming around what's this put a flamethrower right they can decide like actually safety wise maybe we should do this instead and no one's over like but it won't look cool we're not gonna have we're gonna take away like the the kerosene spray that goes all right cars

now yeah they can like finally like oh we can like make this thing work or we can tweak this uh this glove compartment we can build a car better well their cars have some problems yeah sure do not everything and this is i think there's a problem and tesla's sort of leading the way i guess but like there's a problem with cars in general that amen they're yeah well cars exist like you know our all of our cities honestly i just think we gotta get rid of cars yeah no more cars fine with that but like this move towards just like everything is software and everything is and digital and like you have touch screens for everything uh you if you want to open up your

fucking glove box as you alluded to jonathan you have to like open up your app or like go into the software and go into menus and then click the fucking button do you really need to do that right unless they fixed it and there's like some other way that you have to read the manual to find out um but i saw a video recently of like it was like you know they have like there's like people who have teslas who like really love it and they make these videos like actually it's not a problem all you got to do is this and he he like went to a menu to open up the glove box um and stuff like that and you know a bit of an exaggeration but just especially if you're driving, don't you want tactile things that you can feel with your fingers and know, like, I'm turning the

knob this amount as opposed to a wheel on a screen that you have to look at while you're driving or I guess not driving because they're self-driving now, except he's being investigated for that. It feels impossible that the only way to open up your glove box would be through an app, but I don't know. But regardless, they aren't good cars. They aren't good cars.

Do we think that Twitter's going to probably not change that much and just be the same kind of free-for-all hellscape it already is with Elon in charge? Yeah, be back on. It does look like there's a button for the glove box. It's not necessarily like, oh, you gotta go through five menus to get there, but it is a button on the screen, and it doesn't appear as though there is a latch or anything.

That's unbelievably stupid. But sorry, what was the question? But sorry, what was the question? No, I mean, like, based on his need to make this a company that advertisers don't want to flee, is it likely that he just doesn't really do any of those changes? Or I guess maybe the bigger question is, can he still make this a company where advertisers want to be part of it and let Trump back on? That's a toughie. That's a big question you probably can be yes and no because i feel like there are going to be some companies that are like wow trump's back we're we're out of here you know harry's razors or whatever but people like not donald

trump but they like his tweets yeah they want it back they want want that engagement. That is a way to increase traffic and user time on site of twitter.com is to allow that fucked up guy back on the platform. So it's sort of like, you know. I think the vast majority of people would be fine with it until he does something again. And then they get a chance to be like, we over at Chase condemn.

Right. You put like, we're changing our avatars to uh to all black until then they've got a social media campaign he's just gold that's the thing is like he because trump can get back on and 90 of his tweets are just nonsense bullshit and it's funny we can all laugh at it but then if there's some violence encouraging stuff again right but then elon is going to be a lot slower i think to hit the suspend button again because he criticized the first move so much but it's going to be on and there's not there's not going to be like it has to go through him there's no way he doesn't approve or disapprove but disapprove that kind of thing i think yes and no with this because there i mean there is like in a you know there's math involved there's like an equation to do of like well is it worth this is it worth this is this gonna you know with something like that

and i think this little letter to advertisers is indicative of this and again we've sort of always sort of said this. He is going to run into all of the problems that one comes into when you're we have a social media platform or a forum or any sort of thing that requires any degree of moderation. Right. I think that a lot of this, you know, let's say Trump tweets like, yeah, we're storming the capital or whatever it is and then it happens i think that despite the things that musk says that he thinks i think it's gonna get into his face and he'll be like oh oh right the consequences um like i think he's very he just seems very detached in the way he talks about these things. And then once it's like the real world consequence is staring him at the face and he's like, this is your thing. What are you going to do? He'll see.

Well, like you're saying, it'll probably take longer. But I think maybe he's just like chaos agent wants the things. I don't know. Because, like, he's made it very clear in that letter he is not a free speech absolutist um even though that's what he pretends to say i think that he's given himself room to uh say yeah well we i'm not to say yep this is crossed a line you know but um but it will be interesting to see what happens if and by if i mean when we cross that bridge yeah and it's like you know in the context of like you know all the things he said before like the no covid cases by

april 2020 uh his like welcome back to twitter kanye right before all the kanye stuff happened and then he's like i actually talked to him on the phone and it seems like he was very perceptive and then like a day later he's like by the way hitler was right or whatever the fuck he's like, I actually talked to him on the phone and it seems like he was very perceptive. And then like a day later, he's like, by the way, Hitler was right or whatever the fuck he's saying. So like I just his judgment is so built on popularity and likability, even though he can't really admit that to himself. I think it's going to it's going to come to a head probably because. And also, he won't really worry about flip flopping because all of the super fans will be like, no, this actually makes sense in terms of everything with free speech. You'll always have this backers back in his back.

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