Something Was Wrong - S2 Ep6: It was Horrific

Episode Date: September 19, 2019

*Content Warning: gaslighting, domestic abuse, emotional and physical abuse, distressing themes, childhood abuse, medical trauma, factitious disorder.Music from Glad Rags album Wonder Under...

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Starting point is 00:00:30 This podcast is intended for mature audiences and could be triggering to some. Please use discretion when listening. So what I did was I contacted the California Nursing Board. I told them what had happened. and they said, thank you. Can you type something up? So I did. Can you mail it to me?
Starting point is 00:01:03 And I did. And I, I mean, basically told them what happened. And the police officer called me and he said, hey, California Nourcing Board contacted me. It did trigger an investigation. I would like to come and talk to you. And I said, sure, you know, anytime. So I made an appointment. He came.
Starting point is 00:01:19 He was a very, very kind man who was a detective. He came here. He sat and he talked to me for probably two hours at the kitchen table. I had the, I had taken the syringes that she was injecting herself with. I had taken them when she was super sick right before she was found out. I took the syringes. I don't know what made me do that, but I did it. And he wanted those.
Starting point is 00:01:43 He wanted to test them and see what they were. So I gave them those. And he said, you know, I want to tell you something. He said, you remind me a lot of my wife. You're a very kind and compassionate person. and I can see how this happened to you. And I just want to tell you that don't let this devastate you and move on and just let it go if you can. And he said, but I understand.
Starting point is 00:02:07 And we will do something. And I don't know if her license was revoked. I believe that it was. I do believe that it was. Do I have proof? No, I don't. Do I know for certain? No, but I believe I have to try to believe in the system that that worked.
Starting point is 00:02:23 And my whole thought process was she shouldn't be working on anyone else's children. She shouldn't be near medical equipment of any kind. She shouldn't be in any sort of medical environment of any kind. Correct. So, yeah, so when this originally happened, her ex-husband took his son, and the grandmother and her son went and took the daughter. So they were separated now? They were separated.
Starting point is 00:02:52 However, really strangely, that ex-husband released the child back to her. Really soon. The boy? Yes, really soon after. Like, within a month, the child was back at home. They went to court to fight over the daughter. But in the end, she had both of her children back. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Oh, yeah. Five months after Sylvia was discovered, she sent an email to the the doctor who owns the veterinary clinic that she worked at with tea and Jen. Doc, I'm not sure what I want to say exactly, but I guess I've just had you on my mind so much that I wanted to tell you how very much I miss you. I know now my life had to be turned upside down and shaken to bring me to a place where I can find happiness. But I hurt all the people I held close to my heart, and I wish I could change that. I know I've lost you forever, and that still stings as bad today as it did five months ago. think about laughing with you, playing with you, talking with you, just being around you,
Starting point is 00:03:58 and just get a huge lump in my throat. I know that losing you is one of the seemingly unbearable consequences I have had to face for my actions, but I have a hard time figuring out why it still hurts so terribly. Losing you and losing my children are things that I struggle with on a daily basis. I try to use those aches and pangs as fuel to keep on finding the answers I need in order to be a whole healthy person. Work is going well. I'm working in the pick you and doing what I love. I've started going back to school and I got into the nursing program at UC Davis. Going to lots and lots of court to try and fight to get my daughter back. And on a smorgasbord of medications with plenty of sides of gut reveling therapy have been a big part of my life's menu.
Starting point is 00:04:48 smiley face. And overall, I feel better about who I am and how I live my life today than I have in my whole life. I just have a hard time not hating myself for what I did to those who I've loved. My dog Ruby is having our last litter in mid-February. I'm pretty excited about that. It won't be the same without you, but it will bring lots of smiles, I'm sure. I guess I wanted to tell you, you were and always will be one of my greatest loves, that there will always be a big part of me that will miss you and love you. I want you to know that. And saying sorry just doesn't seem to even touch the feelings of regret and sorrow I have for what I put you through. But maybe it still means something to you. Nonetheless, always thinking of you. Sylvia.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I guess I wanted to tell you you were and always will be one of my greatest loves. Yeah. That's fucking bizarre. And it's fucked up. And also, did something happen? No, nothing. Never. Never. But in her head, clearly, but I'm telling you, I absolutely 100 million percent, no, nothing happened. Like, I know. Like, this man is my brother. I know nothing happened. And I confronted him because she told me, you know, something did.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And he actually laughed in my face. It was, he was like, what? And then there was just like, instantly, I was like, yeah, because she is lying sociopath. And he's like, yeah, no. No. No. No. But she had actually told me at one time that he came to her and said that he liked her and that they kissed and stuff. She just always kind of made it seem like they had a special relationship.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I didn't question her about it, but my first thought was there's no way that that happened. I mean, like I said, I never questioned her or told her that. that she was probably lying, but my thought was always that, you know, I don't believe that this situation happened between them. Always thinking of you again. This is bizarre. Right. And then, again, like, she does this for him.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And then nothing to respond to me. Nothing. Nothing. Did he seem creeped out? Yeah. He was very, like, this person is clearly not well. Right. And the response he said was something to the effect of what I, with this.
Starting point is 00:07:14 the things that the lies and the deception and the things that you did have made it impossible for us to have any relationship whatsoever. I am afraid that we can no longer be friends. Basically, don't contact me. Correct. So she did try to allude to you before that she had some sort of relationship with him? Yeah. And did she seem, she made it sound like that was ongoing?
Starting point is 00:07:38 She didn't say it was a relationship. What she told me was this. She said, I, um, I wanted to kiss him and he said, oh, no, I'm married. I can't do that. And she said, but I really, you know, I care for you. And he said no. And that's what she told me was that he said no.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And that he said, no, absolutely not. When I confronted him and I said, hey, did this happen? No. So that didn't even happen. No. So she was pretty open with you like I had feelings for him and I wanted to kiss him. So that was something that you knew. Yep.
Starting point is 00:08:12 On top of her being married. Or was this at different times? Like when she was single or something? This is when she was living with Jason. Now, what I want you to know is what I found out after all this, she was never married the first time. She lived with that gentleman and had a baby with him, but they were never married.
Starting point is 00:08:28 For son's father? Yeah, she told all of us. Divorced. Her husband, I got to get a divorce, who went through the whole divorce thing. They were never married. Yeah. That never happened.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I did talk to the daughter after she was found out. The grandmother had her, and I asked if I could come spend time with her, and she said yes, and we went for her walk. How much longer? Do you remember, like, that was it, like a year or two? Yeah. I mean, yeah, so, yeah, around that time frame, that's a good estimate. And I remember, I'm like, you know, I really miss you. Like, you know, we were tight.
Starting point is 00:09:12 And she was like, yeah, I miss you too. And I said, well, you know, do you know what happened? And she said, yeah, my mom thought she was sick and she wasn't. But I'm kind of mad at you. And I said, why? You know? And she said, because you tried to take my mom's job away. And I go, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:09:35 And she said, well, my mom told me that you tried to get her fired from her nursing job. And I said, well, honey, you know. she was hurting herself and you know you can't I mean she was a child but look at how this little child is maturely talking to me like this though and I was like the burden that she's putting that on her daughter even to those things so I was like you know she shouldn't be yeah but that's not true she was just sick and I go but honey she'd lied to us and she made herself sick well I don't believe that and I go honey it's true and then I knew right then I had lost her I was done.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Several years go by. I haven't heard from her. Nothing. Haven't heard from her family. And I answer the phone at work. She says, hi, T. It's Sylvia. My heart just like pumping out of my chest, right?
Starting point is 00:10:35 And she's like, so she goes, how are you? I'm fine. And she goes, I want you know. I think of you every day. And I said, I want you know. know, I think of you every day too. But I'm at my completely different way. And she's like, so I know you're probably not going to believe me or anything, but I was at Yosemite and I fell and now I'm in a wheelchair. And I have to get rid of one of Ruby's puppies because I can't care for
Starting point is 00:11:02 anymore because I'm in a wheelchair. And I was like, okay, well, I'll put the word out. You know, and she goes, okay. She goes, I know you probably don't believe me. And I'm like, well, You know? Did you just kind of stay silent? Like in shock? Yeah. Because you're not expecting to get that phone call. See her just like, really?
Starting point is 00:11:22 Right. Yeah. And I'm at work. It's like a ghost visiting you. Yeah. Yeah. And I just like stirred everything up. And she's like, yeah, I'm in a wheelchair.
Starting point is 00:11:31 My mom bought me a van. That's wheelchair accessible. And yeah. Because she got in an accident? At Yosemite. Like hiking or something? She said I fell at Yosemite and I'm in a wheelchair now. I was one.
Starting point is 00:11:44 working and Sylvia called me at the hospital to see if I could take one of her bulldogs. And it called me up like nothing had ever happened. Like hi, how's it going? I was wondering if you could take one of my dogs for me. And I was just like, no, I can't. And that was pretty much the conversation. And then like two days later, I sat down at my work computer. I opened my email and the grandmother sent me an email that said, I'm really sorry to inform you, but Sylvia passed away last night. The daughter found her. We don't know if it was an overdose intentional or on purpose, but she has passed away. I literally lost my shit. I got up. I went out to the parking lot.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I was like doing the heathing, crying, like where I thought was going to throw up. And I just was, how much more devastation can this person bring? It was horrific. Oh, man, you know, that was really rough. Sorry. Um, I was so sad. I was devastated for her kids that she looked. left them behind.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Um, and you know, I never really had known anyone that I had been close with that had passed away before. Um, it was just, it's still really sad for me. And I, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:42 reached out immediately to the grandmother and I talked to her and she said, we really don't know what happened. Um, She said that the daughter noticed she was slurring her words when she went to bed. And when she got up in the morning, she found her mom dead in the bed. And I called her mom. Her mom did answer. We cried together on the phone.
Starting point is 00:14:09 We didn't really talk very much. And then that was it. And then I reached out several more times and then asking her mom to please call me that I needed. help talking about this, thought I needed some closure with this, and that I had a broken heart. And her mom wouldn't call me back. I know that her mom lost her child. I understand that. And I understand that her mom had to take care of herself. I was trying to take care of myself. And I kept reaching out to her. Can you please just call me. And they said, can you please quite reaching out. Someone, her, I think it was her aunt, text me and said, can you please quit reaching out to
Starting point is 00:14:53 her? It's too painful. The services are going to be closed to just family only. And I was like, fuck you. You know, you weren't here. You didn't do the work. You weren't here for four years. None of you were here. Fuck you guys. I was so mad. So mad. And did you ever talk to the mom again? Nope. Did you stay in contact with the grandma? Nope. No, after the piece. Well, actually, I did reach out via email and I said, I'm really struggling. I can't accept this.
Starting point is 00:15:32 You know, I really am struggling for answers. Do you have any answers? Do you know what the autopsy showed? Like, do you have any information for me? And she was like, I have moved on. You need to move on too. I swear to God, if I had one more person tell me that I thought it's going to die. Like, I just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:51 So all I did was get shut down by her family. And with no sense of helping me get closure, maybe it could care less about me. Did you guys do anything at work or any sort of? The neighbor girl that lived next door, we have a little service at her house. And did the neighbor girl stay in contact with her through the end? Like, they were still friends? I don't know if they were friends or close friends, but I do think that she, occasionally talk to her.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Mm-hmm. Isn't that crazy? That's really crazy. It makes me really sad that her daughter had to find her too, like on top of everything else. Yep. Because that's not something you get over. Nope. Never.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Never. Mm-mm. And then she was immediately separated. The children were separated. And went to their dads. Mm-hmm. And then is that where they stayed? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Did you ever have contact with Jason after she passed away? Yes. And did he have any insights or anything for you? Like did he continue to talk to her at all? No. Not at all. He still used us as veterinary and so I did see him occasionally. And one of the last times I saw him, he said that he was having a really hard time because
Starting point is 00:17:12 he needed a death certificate to get a divorce. And the mom had the death certificate. and she would not return his phone calls. Yep. That sounds about right. And he, you can tell he was just a broken person after, you know. Yeah. And he found out about her lying about the medical stuff the same day you did.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Yeah, we all found out together. So he didn't have it. And he didn't suspect it either. Like in your conversations with him. Nobody knew. I'm telling you she was good. You'd have to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:42 But to live with somebody. No. And not even know. No. Like, I know you were there an insane amount of time, but, like, he lived with her. Right. He did not know. And I 100% believe that. And remember that she went to a counselor that we paid for from the hospital. And he didn't know. He didn't know. I went and saw him after she died. He did not know. Yeah. Yeah. So the neighbor girl did tell me that she went to work someplace else and was saying she was sick again. So. Was that true? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Because I was out of it. Right. So she's saying that she got another job at a new place and was starting it all over again. That's what she said. You think you know me, you don't know me well at all. Think you know me you don't know me well. T and I will be recording a Q&A episode soon. If you have a question, you can send it via email, Instagram, or by calling or text
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