Something Was Wrong - S22 E7: Scam the Scammer

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

*Content Warning: fraud, scams, disability abuse, false reporting, harassment, financial abuse, suicidal ideation. Sources: MyCase Indiana: https://public.courts.in.gov/Elwood woman... faces multiple felonies in connection with ongoing rental scheme, by Logan Gay, WTHR.com staff, WTHR News: https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/elwood-woman-arrested-for-ongoing-rental-scheme-megan-stoner-fishers-indiana/531-2d3b11fa-5c70-4f05-8ea4-0be0c37cf852 Fishers woman charged in rental fraud; 3 scammed in signing lease for same Home by: Izzy Karpinski, Fox59: https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/fishers-woman-charged-in-rental-fraud-3-scammed-in-signing-lease-for-same-home/ Hamilton County Inmate Records - Stoner, Megan Elizabeth: https://secure2.hamiltoncounty.in.gov/inmates2/Jail/Inmate/Detail/-1282383 Protect the community from ongoing criminal activity by revoking the bond of Megan Stoner, Change.Org Petition: https://www.change.org/p/protect-the-community-from-ongoing-criminal-activity-by-revoking-the-bond-of-megan-stoner Justin Sexton on X: @JustinSextonIN https://x.com/JustinSextonIN Megan Stoner Chronicles, X @ChroniclesMegan: https://x.com/ChroniclesMegan Chloe Anagnos on X: @ChloeAnagnos https://x.com/ChloeAnagnos/status/1651260809362784261 Don't Waste This F*cking Podcast: The Story of Megan Stoner, by Amanda Peterson, Excelsior Studios: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dont-waste-this-f-cking-podcast-the-story-of-megan-stoner/id1757463535 Noblesville Chatter Community Based Discussion Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1995427104120331/ Resources:Free + Confidential Resources + Safety Tips: somethingwaswrong.com/resources   Theme Song & Artwork: Thank you to NeonHoney and GIBBANEZ for covering our theme song, Glad Rags’s original song U Think U this season. NeonHoney’s IG: https://www.instagram.com/neonhoneymusic/ NeonHoney’s Website: https://neonhoneymusic.comGibbanez IG: https://www.instagram.com/@gibbanezmusic/ Gibbanez Linktree: https://linktr.ee/gibbanezmusicGlad Rags: https://www.gladragsmusic.com/ The S22 cover art is by the Amazing Sara StewartFollow Something Was Wrong:Website: somethingwaswrong.com IG: instagram.com/somethingwaswrongpodcastTikTok: tiktok.com/@somethingwaswrongpodcast Follow Tiffany Reese:Website: tiffanyreese.me IG: instagram.com/lookieboo See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:52 Megan Stoner's responses to these allegations are addressed within this season. is, something was wrong. Last episode, we heard from Indianapolis community member Alyssa, who first became aware of Stoner's shady behavior when Alyssa had posted some free items for people in need on Facebook. Alyssa reported Stoner to the Buy Nothing Facebook group admin after Stoner took items off Alyssa's porch that were intended for others in need. Years later, Alyssa came across the Megan Stoner Scam Awareness Facebook group, which primarily consisted of alleged victims of Megan Stoner and concerned locals. After Stoner had been charged with the OWI and nine felony counts, she was released on bond.
Starting point is 00:04:29 As a surprise to probably no one, Stoner continued to commit alleged crimes and target alleged new victims, like Tom, during the time she was running Farrell outside. Now as we heard in the last few episodes from Tom, when he loaned Stoner money originally and shared his card info with her, he did not know about the rental scams. Stoner had told him that she was in jail at times, she wasn't in jail, and that her being in jail was due to a civil case against her by a moving company, which was also inaccurate. After months of Stoner giving Tom the runaround about paying him back, he began digging around more online
Starting point is 00:05:07 and asking questions about Stoner's self-proclaimed haters. Eventually a member of the Megan Stoner scam awareness Facebook group, Mike Neal, connected with Tom and filled him in on what the group had gathered about Megan Stoner's alleged crimes. Tom was in shock when he learned this news, but even more than that, he was heartbroken to learn that he had been taken advantage of by someone whom he considered to be a friend
Starting point is 00:05:31 and someone he admired in politics. When the Facebook scam awareness group learned about Tom and that Stoner had continued on her merry little scammy way, they were determined more than ever to bring Megan Stoner to justice. Fast forward to summer of 2023, and Stoner was due to return to court to face her pending charges. Here's Alyssa. She had a warrant for the OWI case. And around that time, she had her court date coming up for the felony charges out of Hamilton County,
Starting point is 00:06:05 the rental scams. And she didn't want to go to that felony court date because she knew she had a warrant. I think she thought, well, if I show up to this court date, they're going to arrest me because I have pending charges there that she also did not show up to court for. So that's when she didn't show up to court in Hamilton County and they put out a warrant for her arrest there also. She was on the run. So she wasn't at home. She in Hamilton County and they put out a warrant for her arrest there also. She was on the run, so she wasn't at home. She was staying in and out of Airbnbs, changing them up every night.
Starting point is 00:06:32 It really seems crazy now, but at the time, I was just like, this girl has done so much wrong. It's time for someone to bring justice to this situation and the people that she's hurt. But in between that time, when the warrant came out for the OWI and she hadn't yet had a warrant for the felony charges is when I started texting her. The goal was maybe I can get her to come meet me somewhere. I think we all thought it was kind of far-fetched.
Starting point is 00:06:59 We'll see where it goes from here, but I'll try anyway. So I started texting her and she starts divulging all of this information to me about Tom. She's like, can you please message my friend Tom? He's not listening to me. I did some bad things, but I'm trying to pay him back. I want to pay him back the money I owe him because I think at this point he was really understanding the gravity of what she had done to him and how much money she had taken from him under false pretenses. I reached out to somebody else in the group that was an admin and I was like, hey, I've been talking to Megan and I really think someone needs to get a hold of this person.
Starting point is 00:07:33 So that's when I found out that like Tom had been talking to someone in the group already and that he had begun grasping the fact that she had scammed him really bad. I think he was probably her most prolific victim out of the pool of people that she had scammed him really bad. I think he was probably her most prolific victim out of the pool of people that she had scammed. I had reached out to him and I was talking to him and he started to share some of the things that she had done. And at that point, it was always kind of like a joke to me. Maybe she'll come and meet me, maybe she won't. But then when I realized like what she had done, that's when I like hit it into high gear and I was like, you know what? No, no one deserves to be treated like this.
Starting point is 00:08:07 No one deserves to put trust in someone and then have someone completely ruin that trust. And that's what she had done with him and it was scary. And so at that point I started texting her and shortly after that is when she met me for the first time and I actually saw her in person. So I got her number from someone in the group and I just said like, hey, I think I said my name was Valerie. I'm a reporter for such and such. I think I even like Googled the place, the company.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I minded my P's and Q's there. I was very straightforward. Like this is who I work for. This is what I wanna do. I wanna buy the life rights to your story. I think you have a really crazy story to tell. I think your voice should be heard. So I really tried to play to that Megan Stoner diabolical mind.
Starting point is 00:08:49 She was like, oh, this is great. Someone wants to like tell a story all about me. We talked for a couple of days and a few times she had said, can you reach out to my friend Tom? He's not listening. I think she was terrified that he was gonna go and file charges against her at the time. And I was like, I don't think it's appropriate
Starting point is 00:09:04 for me to reach out to one of your victims. She was like, okay, can you send me $20 for food tonight? And I'm like, I suppose I can do that. And so when she provided me her cash app, it was not her cash app, it was someone else's. And at that time, it was kind of like she's starting to take the bait. Like she wants money from me. And so what I had done, I was like, why don't you let me give you some money so that you can get your Airbnb or whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And she's like, well, you know, I have a warrant, so I'm not meeting anyone. She was pretty adamant about that. But the next day she called me on the phone and I recorded it. And she was like, my mom gave my dog away. Her dog Coco was all over her Twitter. Like this dog was her bestie and her mom had given her dog away. And then she called me, she's like, my mom hates me.
Starting point is 00:09:48 She told me she doesn't want to see me again. I was not great as it was on my part. I was like, you know what, like let's play into this. And I'm like, I can't believe your mom would do that. I tried to get a little closer with her. It's important to note when listening to most of the calls we're including this season with Megan, to keep in mind that the goal of the person speaking to Megan, I'd guess 90% of the time, was to gather more evidence by getting her to accidentally slip up and
Starting point is 00:10:15 share important information. And this is certainly the approach Alyssa took to try and get info from Stoner by claiming to be a journalist and by offering a sympathetic ear in order to get more information. The goal was to scam the scammer into telling on themselves. And thankfully for all of us, she almost always takes the bait. The following call took place a few days before Stoner was due to report back to court for her pending charges. I mean the other ones are kind of small, they're not a huge deal. Right. Stuff that can get thrown out really easily.
Starting point is 00:11:06 But the Hamilton County case is kind of a big one. Yeah, and the prosecutor's not going easy because of all the media attention. Yeah, it blew up. It blew up online, obviously. Yeah, and he knows that. And I can't do a year in jail. I'm sorry. That's the plea deal, a year in jail. I'm sorry. That's the plea deal a year in jail? Yeah. Fuck. When I talked to my attorney, that was Tuesday. And then he said on Thursday that he was still waiting to hear back. So you don't know for sure that they're going to offer that? Or is
Starting point is 00:11:43 that what your lawyer asked for? No, they've offered that. My attorney went back and asked them like if I could just do like 30 years on house arrest. Holy shit. I would be willing to avoid jail. Yeah yeah yeah I mean at least when you're on house arrest you can work. Yeah. You can go out places you're not really just confined to your house like a lot of people think. Yeah, my dad was on house arrest and got through it. I mean it's not that terrible. It's better than jail. Fuck. And now they've got your mom just completely flipped and turned on you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:15 That's like the one person you know you can always trust. You know what I mean? Like it's your mom. Unlike that with my dad, like we're really close. And so I can't really imagine what it would be like if he just turned on me when I needed him the most, you know? Did your mom tell you she was getting rid of Coco before she did it or did she just tell you like I got rid of Coco? She just told me.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Fuck. I'm so sorry. These people, I'm sorry, these people are vicious. They are vicious. I will say that. I can see it. Well, I could see it all. I can't know.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Obviously, I got booted from the crew. Why did you get booted? Because I threw a fit. Because it doesn't, I mean, it's not a huge deal, but I don't like everything that was being said in there, and I kind of got a little offended by some things. And then once everyone saw that my name was on any kind of paperwork they sort of blow me up and I went off and told them all to stop and that's when I got booted from the group like I woke up the next morning and it
Starting point is 00:13:13 was like none of the posts where I can't even like see the group I couldn't even search it if I wanted to now it's gone yeah they're kicking people out of the group left and right I'm not the only one and the one person I do know that's in the group I'm not really friends with, it's just kind of like secondhand information, so I really don't know shit. I can see the Twitter account, obviously. Yeah. But I don't know. I just feel like I don't know what to say to you right now because it's just crazy to me.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I never thought that would happen with your mom. Like, I kind of figured she was like the one person that was there for you no matter what. Yeah. I would just give her some time. Like, try to talk to her again if you can at some point, you know. I just wonder who's talking to her. That's my... Yep. And she won't tell you. Uh-uh. I don't know. I just think that's really weird for her to give up your dog and then tell you to go into prison. Like something drastic had to have happened. I think they've convinced her that I'm a bad person. I don't know. She knows everything though. She knows what happened. She knows the charges you have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Nothing's changed. From yesterday till today, nothing has changed. Yeah. They've just convinced her apparently that I'm a terrible person. I don't know like Maybe she'll come around maybe something will happen, you know, I don't know Yeah, I don't know either because this whole thing is fucking insane So are you gonna go to court on Thursday? Yeah, of course. We're working out something on Tuesday for Elwood. We're gonna pay the warrant at the bench.
Starting point is 00:14:54 So it's not gonna be squash, but we're gonna pay the bail there. Yeah, right, and then they'll just let you go. Yeah, that's hopefully the plan. And then Thursday you have court in Hamilton County, which is a big one, obviously. Is that the only court cases you have this week, just Tuesday and Thursday? Just Tuesday and Thursday, like it's no big deal, sorry. Right, I mean this is my life for weeks now and I'm just, and I'm tired of hiding in seclusion.
Starting point is 00:15:23 That's the other thing, like I'm so tired of this that's the part I think I would have the hardest time with is just being alone like you can't tell anybody where you are you can't have anybody come visit you because you don't know what's gonna happen yeah you just have to be by yourself and I guess this is where you really want your mental your mental ability to test of how strong can I say? Yeah. Well, I will say, I'll give you credit. Like you're still here, you know?
Starting point is 00:15:54 Yeah, well, I don't know how. Well, you've pushed through. I know it's not been easy and I know you haven't been in the best mental state and that's had to have been so hard but like you're here. And I mean I guess you've been in the group. I mean what are your thoughts? Like how do I get this stopped? Because my attorney wants to do a press conference and I don't know if that's a good idea. He wants to what?
Starting point is 00:16:16 One of my attorneys thought about doing a press conference. Oh a press conference for you. Uh the group's not gonna stop. They will not stop. There are like 1,500 people in that group. They will not stop. They'll make another one. You know, if one gets taken down, they'll make another. It will not stop. They're all fucking crazy. At this point, they're not gonna stop until, I assume, you're in jail or like you said on house arrest. Maybe then it will subside if they have nothing to talk about. And girl if you'd stop tweeting they wouldn't have anything to talk about either.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I know I'm trying to stop. I think that doesn't help your case like they have something every time you tweet you have something to talk about it's posted in the group. I feel like they just are watching your every move and you just keep giving them ammo to do so okay that's my best advice to you is don't give them so much ammo I hope that this plea deal works out for you and that you don't have to go sit in a jail cell, you know, that's that's gonna be really rough. You're telling me I emailed 30 attorneys last night. 30? I'm not kidding either. I was up all night emailing attorneys. Why? Because clearly my attorney, I mean, okay, so I have my attorney named Brent, he's already on the case. He got me me down Well, here's the thing the public defender had had me at 10 years in prison whoa
Starting point is 00:17:50 And Brent in one week got me down to a year. So like do you see the progress like that's progress. Yeah And so you want to find another one that can maybe get it down more than that. Yeah I Mean, I don't like a churning hopping anymore than anyone else does but you know mean, I don't like attorney hopping anymore than anyone else does. But you know what? I don't have a choice. It's my life. So there's this guy named Bob. He's supposed to be the best of best. He's very cocky. And he was a former prosecutor in Hamilton County. He's the one taking over the Elwood case. Okay. He's really good, but he didn't realize how much meat... I told him there was a lot of eyes on the situation.
Starting point is 00:18:27 I had a lot of media attention. And I tried to tell him this. He didn't listen to me. The only one that knows my mental state is really worried. So anyway, I hire Bob. He's supposed to be the best of the best. And Bob goes, well, this is going to be interesting, because I don't know how far I'm gonna actually get in the Hamilton County case.
Starting point is 00:18:47 So, I don't know what's gonna happen. Um, nothing is clear at all. I just know that I emailed a bunch of law firms and I'm hoping someone gets back with me. Are you gonna be able to pay someone else? I mean I'll figure it out. Yeah. The good thing is if they keep me out of jail, I can get all the money they want because I get my financial aid next week. You know what I'm saying? Going to jail wasn't really what I wanted. So if you sign the plea deal, do you have to go to jail Thursday?
Starting point is 00:19:18 I think so. Ay, ay, ay. That's like really soon. That's like four days. That's like... I know. What time is court Thursday? Like in the morning or in the afternoon? Ten. Fuck, that's early. Okay. I have like four court dates Thursday.
Starting point is 00:19:36 What? I've got that one in the morning for the mechanics that I'm suing, which has nothing to do with any of this, 830. And then I have bail relocation hearing at 1030, plea charge negotiations at 1030, and then at 115 I guess they're amending my charges. What does that mean? I have no idea. I've not got any info on that at all. So the lawyers don't even know what that means? Brent has not told me. He might have told me, but I've been in the flurry of emotions, so I wouldn't know.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yeah. I don't know if that means less or more. Bob said it usually means more. That could be the- Usually, but I don't know at this point. No one knows anything it feels like a Haji podgy problem Well, I worry that if they file more charges like if they're more serious if they'll take a plea deal off the table I
Starting point is 00:20:37 Don't that they've always had on the table no matter how sucky they were yeah Yeah, okay I wish there was more I could say like Like I am hoping that it's just helping you being able to talk to somebody, period. It is. And I'm just praying that this doesn't bite me in the ass because my attorneys are gonna kill me. I mean, my attorneys, like, don't talk to anyone.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Like, just turn your phone off. I'm like, that's not easy, though. We're practical. I don't know how else to live. I mean, already living without human connection on the outside. I mean, I can't interact with anybody. I can't tell how else to live. I mean, I'm already living without human connection on the outside. I mean, I can't interact with anybody. I can't tell anyone my name.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I literally live like I'm a fucking hermit right now. I mean, this is literally what it must feel like to live like a refugee. Like, this is ridiculous. I mean, this is ridiculous. This is not how someone in America should have to live. Like, this is terrible. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I feel like life sucks sometimes. Majorly. And I mean, I don't know. I feel like life sucks sometimes. Majorly. And I mean, I don't know, I'm just, I'm tired and I'm worn down and I just am like, I don't know what else to do. I don't know, you just pray for the best I guess. That's all you really can do at this point. It sounds like there's not much more you can do besides try to make amends with your mom before you have to go to jail if you have to go to jail I mean that's gonna be important you're gonna need somebody and then like if you do get your house arrest where are you gonna house arrest who? You're gonna need your mom. Yeah. That's where you're gonna want to do a house arrest time. I'm about to meet with a witch. I think I'm gonna do that, I've been wondering about doing a witch, having a witch. Meeting with a witch and doing a spell.
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Starting point is 00:24:41 I had been in talks with her and I was like, look, Megan wants to meet me. And she's really adamant, like this girl needs to go to jail. So I contacted Vero and I was like, look, Megan wants to meet me and she's really adamant, like this girl needs to go to jail. So I contacted Vero and I was like, Hey, Megan agreed to meet me. And she's like, I'll come pick you up. Like, tell me where, tell me when we could do it tonight. I'm like, I'm down for it. Let's go. I'll go pick you up. We'll do this. Next thing I know, we're heading down to Indianapolis to where she was hiding at. down to Indianapolis to where she was hiding at. And I told Alyssa, I'll drop you off,
Starting point is 00:25:07 and then I'll go ahead and move to another location, but secretly text 911. So I looked at my boyfriend at the time, and I was like, I'm gonna go out for a little bit. It's like nine o'clock at night. He's like, where are you going? And I was like, well, listen, Megan has agreed to meet me, and I'm gonna gonna go out and I'm gonna have her meet me and
Starting point is 00:25:27 Then we're gonna call the cops and have them arrest her and he was like Alyssa You're out of your fucking mind. And I was like, no, I'm not. He's like, so let me get this straight You're leaving in a car with someone you don't know. You don't even know their full name. You've never met them like check He's like and you're going down to Indianapolis on a Friday night after dark in a not great part of town, I'm like check. He's like, and you're gonna go provide some vigilante justice and get this girl arrested. I'm like check. You know like how much more crazy could I sound? I remember right before I walked out the door when Vero pulled up
Starting point is 00:26:05 At my house. He was like take a picture of the license plate and send it to me Right before I had left Megan said she would meet me and then I remember getting a message from her right as I was about To walk out the door and she's like, I don't really think this is a good idea And so I hop in the car with Vero and I'm like she I think she's backing out. I think she's getting nervous She knows she has a warrant. She's like, well, here's what we're gonna do walking out. I think she's getting nervous. She knows she has a warrant. She's like, here's what we're going to do. So we stopped by an ATM and she pulls out $300 in cash. And she's like, send Megan a picture of that and tell her like, I'm in Indy with my sister. We just had dinner. Do you want to meet up? I think I sent her a picture of a hundred dollar bill
Starting point is 00:26:38 because I remember her saying like, well, I thought you were going to give me 300. And I was like, I will. I was like, how about I meet you? I'll have my sister drop me off with you and I'll send her to go to the ATM to get the rest of the money because we really want to help you. And she's like, okay. We got down to India and we had a pretty good idea through the bingo chat of the Airbnb she was at because the amount of money she was asking for that night, there was like two Airbnbs available within the range of where we knew she was because also there's a whole other side of this. There was a woman that was giving her rides.
Starting point is 00:27:06 We can call her Stacey. So we had a pretty good idea of the area that Megan was in because Stacey had dropped her off at a gas station or a coffee shop or somewhere near the area. So when Vera and I were on our way down there, some of the girls in the group had done a deep dive on Airbnb and found an Airbnb we really thought she was staying at. We pull up at this Airbnb and it's like a garage in the
Starting point is 00:27:27 backyard of this house. And Vero pulls up and I hop out of the car and I go and try and look in the window of this place. And I'm on the phone with Megan while I'm doing this. She's like, well, just go up kind of by the door like you're going to knock and see if you can hear her talking. And while I'm doing that, Megan's like, well, you know what? Like you can just meet me at this church. And the church is literally right around the corner from where Vero and I are. And I'm like, maybe she really is at this Airbnb right here.
Starting point is 00:27:49 So we wait a few minutes to see if she walks out or if she's like gonna Uber or whatever to go over to this church. It was probably a mile away and she doesn't come out. I was like, all right, let's just go, let's go park somewhere near the church where we can see. And the next thing you know, we park. And I look ahead and I was like, oh my God, my god Vera that's her right there. Both of our hearts dropped because I really didn't
Starting point is 00:28:08 think she was going to meet me. I really figured she was going to get sketched out but I think that enticing $300 was enough to make her like come out of whatever hidey hole she was in. I get out of the car and I walk over to her and she had started to walk away at that point. She'd like gotten up and was walking down the street and I yelled for and I was like Megan and she's like, oh Alyssa Like hey, I told you I was coming and she was like, oh great. Where's your sister? I was like my sister's running to the ATM to get the rest of your money. She's like, okay I was like, do you want to just sit over here and she's like, yeah So let me also tell you that we're not in a good part of Indianapolis
Starting point is 00:28:41 Like there are some parts there that you don't want to be in after dark when you're a young woman. And that's where we were. And I was even a little scared. I'm like, this is crazy. So Vero calls 911 and tells them, like, hey, there is a girl here. She has a warrant. She's sitting on the corner of wherever we were. And this is all while I'm like, standing there with Megan. So she messages me and she's like, okay, I called the cops. Well, it's like Friday night, shit is popping off downtown. They have major crimes that they're taking care of. And here we are with this girl that just has a warrant. So it's like 15 minutes and I'm sitting here
Starting point is 00:29:16 and the group is like going off in my pod. Like I can hear my phone going off. And I'm like, oh my God, this is insane. And Megan's getting really sketched out at this point. And she's like, where's your sister? I feel like this is a setup. I'm like, if it was a setup, don't you think we would have just had the cops with us
Starting point is 00:29:29 when I got here? That seems a little crazy. I'm sitting right here with you. Everything is fine. And then she just looks over at me and looks at my phone. She's like, let me see the messages from your sister. And I like have my phone in my hand pointed down because it was going off from the group.
Starting point is 00:29:41 And I'm like, oh my God, what am I gonna do? I remember holding the power button and sliding it while it was upside down. I turned my phone, I'm like, Oh my God, what am I going to do? I remember holding the power button and sliding it while it was upside down. I was like, Oh my God, my phone died. A normal person would have been like, okay, fuck this. I'm leaving. This is not okay. She sits there with me for a few more minutes and like every car that pulls up, every headlight that she sees, she's standing up and sitting down and freaking out. And I'm like, it's okay, just calm down. And so at this point, I remember she stands up and she kind of like walks towards the corner. She's pacing and a car pulls up at the intersection across from where we are, like on the, there's a busy street we were next to, then there was a side street and a car pulls up on the
Starting point is 00:30:16 side street. I remember her looking at that car and then she just takes off. I mean, this girl is like running down the sidewalk and she's not a little girl. She's booking ass down the sidewalk. And I look over and I was like, Oh my God, it's a cup. So I like ran up. I was like, she's right there. I was like, that's the girl that's got a warrant. She's right there. And so he goes the wrong way on a one way, flips his lights on and stops her. And I go and I book it to Vero's car cause she's like half a block away and I go to try to get in the car, and she's like driving off without me. Like, she's so excited.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I'm trying to open up the door, it's locked, and Vero's like literally driving away, like dragging me with the car. And I'm like, bitch, open the door, like let me get in. This is insane, we got her. We're alluding to holler in the car. We looked for her for like a month, and we finally found her.
Starting point is 00:30:58 And I'm like, this is everything. I was so freaking happy. And so we do like a lap around, and when we come around, they have Megan and they're putting her in the back of the cop car. And there's like three cops there at this point. And we turn on the scanner and we start driving back. And like everybody in the bingo group is freaking out,
Starting point is 00:31:15 like, fuck yes, we're so excited. It took maybe about half an hour for them to come and get her. And when they threw her in the squad car, I'm like, yes, we finally fucking did it. And then I see somebody message in the group chat and they're like, they just said non-extraditable warrant on the scanner.
Starting point is 00:31:37 So we're all listening to the scanner, we're waiting. Come to find out, because it was just a bench warrant, it was not a felony, the warrant hadn't been issued for the felony charge yet. The charge was non-extraditable, so they basically just let her go. After all of that, they let her go. And then not only did they let her go, but she calls me about five minutes later and she's like, they let me go. And I was like, what do you mean they let you go? She's like, yeah, they said that I just need to appear in court at my earliest convenience
Starting point is 00:32:05 and they let me go. So all your hard work was for nothing. And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? And I remember screaming at her on the phone at that point. I was like, listen, I don't care what it takes. I don't care what I have to do. I don't care the extent that I have to go. I will not stop until you are behind
Starting point is 00:32:25 bars and you pay for your crimes. I will not stop until the people that you have so wrongfully harmed and scammed and manipulated get justice. That moment for me was really like solidified, like hearing her be so snarky on the phone with me to tell me like, they just let me go. And I remember at that point thinking like I really won't stop. It became my mission at that point. And I remember going home that night and I like came in and my boyfriend was snoring in bed. Everybody's asleep.
Starting point is 00:32:55 It's like after midnight and I'm like, well, you weren't too worried about me, obviously, because you didn't even wait up to see if I got home. But I was so defeated. I stayed up for a little while. We talked in the group chat and everybody was just like, this sucks. And my involvement in all of this really has come from like a sidebar standpoint because she stole some stuff off my porch, but she didn't technically scam me. She didn't hurt me, but she hurt people that I love. After you've had a conversation with Tom and you realize how truly vulnerable he was in some moments and how much she took advantage of those vulnerable moments and him as a person
Starting point is 00:33:30 that he's just so kind. It was people like that and moments like that. I'm getting cold chills right now like that's what made it all worth it for me. Helping people file paperwork at the courthouse, filing for FOIA requests, like I became a true investigator for during this and learned how to file paperwork with the courthouse. It just became something where I was like, this just is so wrong and nobody's doing anything about it. Why is no one doing anything about this?
Starting point is 00:33:57 Why is this continuing to happen? So after that phone call with her, I've made it my life's mission that this girl was going to pay for her crime. She was going to go to jail. And shortly after that is when they issued the warrant on the felony charges. And at that point it is extraditable. If you're in another state, if you're in another county, if you're eight hours away, they don't care. You're going to jail. It was just because she missed court. So she had court for the felony charges. Shortly after that first time that we tried to get her arrested, she didn't show up for court
Starting point is 00:34:29 for those charges, the fraud, the corrupt business influence, the theft. When you don't show up for court, they're going to issue a warrant. And so at that point, because the other charges in Elwood were misdemeanors, there's a difference between a bench warrant and a warrant for felony charges. So with a bench warrant, they're not actively seeking you. They might go to your house one time, maybe two times. They just want you to show up to court. And most people do because it's a misdemeanor. Like who in their right mind would run from a misdemeanor?
Starting point is 00:34:54 The worst you're ever gonna get is either like a slap on the wrist or like a short probation, you know, it's like nothing. After the failed sting to get Stoner arrested by Alyssa and Vero on August 12, 2023, on August 17, Stoner was called to appear for a pre-trial hearing and a motion to revoke Stoner's bail, meaning Stoner was likely heading back to jail due to her failure to comply with the court's instructions. Because of this, her counsel then filed a motion to have her warrant vacated so she would not need to return to jail while awaiting her trials. The hearing for this took place August 23rd and court documents show her attorney submitted the motion
Starting point is 00:35:48 to vacate the warrant. The following day, August 24th, 2023, Stoner was again supposed to attend court hearings and failed to appear. Because of this, the judge issued an additional warrant for Megan Stoner's arrest. So she now had two warrants and had failed to appear for several court hearings.
Starting point is 00:36:08 And the longer Stoner failed to report to the court, the more locals in the scam awareness Facebook group became motivated to find out where Stoner was hiding out. I'm Amanda. I got involved with the Megan story kind of in a weird way. When I was involved with College Republicans in 2016, I became friends with the chair of Indiana College Republicans and was added to a group chat. And in that group chat, it was on GroupMe, if you've ever done like political stuff, when you phone bank all day, you just find dumb things to make fun of. Like people
Starting point is 00:36:45 pick up a call weird. And there was a particular volunteer that they would kind of poke fun at too, sometimes named Megan Stoner. And I thought it was mean that they would make fun of her sometimes, but that's how I became familiar with her. She friended me on Facebook. She would request donations for years from me. I ended up unfriending her. And then I reconnected with Justin. We hadn't talked in a couple of years. He told me, do you remember that girl that they would talk about in the group chat sometimes that I met him in? I kind of remembered her. And he was like, well, apparently she ran this rental scam. There's a lot of people who get
Starting point is 00:37:26 involved in political things that they're kind of full of themselves. They post on social media like they're a bigger deal than they are. They have them in every state. We had them in Minnesota. That's what I assumed she was. So when I find out that she has apparently run this rental scam, where she was showing people a house that didn't belong to her. I was like, that's unbelievable. I don't believe that. He told me that I guess that would have been around December of 2022. She was arrested in April of 2023. And the only reason I was involved in the story is because Justin was fielding so many phone calls from people. I wasn't the only person she friended on Facebook and would try and reach out to. She friended pretty much everyone in the country,
Starting point is 00:38:11 I would say that was involved with college Republicans or young Republicans around 2016 to 2018, maybe even back to 2014. She friended so many people. And so all of my friends from that time knew of her. All of our friends that we had not talked to in years, some of them were trying to call Justin because Justin's the one who knew the most about her. And so I was like, just do a Twitter space because you can't have people calling you all day. And as you've learned by now, it takes six hours to tell the full Megan story and you still leave things out. It's so much there. He did them and I was just there letting people up on the stage. And from that point,
Starting point is 00:38:51 I was kind of seen as someone who was more involved in the story, but I really wasn't. That's the only reason I was involved. It's because of him. I've never met her. I'm from Minnesota. I've been to Indiana, but she's never been at something. I've been there. She messaged me on Facebook a couple of times asking for money, but I from Minnesota. I've been to Indiana, but she's never been at something. I've been there. She messaged me on Facebook a couple times asking for money, but I never responded. I actually unfriended her after she did that because I was like, I'm not going to donate to your campaign. If I'm going to donate, I'm going to donate to my friends or like somebody in my state. I'm not going to donate to someone I don't know. What draws me to the story is that there's elements of it that are really quite honestly
Starting point is 00:39:25 funny. Some of the prolific Facebook posting that she did, some of that is really entertaining. I've heard a bunch of people say like, Megan Stoner was their favorite reality show. She acts like a cartoon character. She portrayed herself as completely different than she actually is. You hear about this new thing where she was blaming people from a church for running her off the road or something and really she's just not a very good driver. But on another note, when you hear about the amount of people that she's stolen from and stuff, I just feel convicted to do something about that. Everybody knew she was hiding from the police.
Starting point is 00:40:04 And in the time she was hiding from the police, she's posting on social media every day, somebody needs to give me money so I have a place to stay. My lawyers are telling me not to turn myself in and we know she's taking the money from Tom. Well, how many more of him are there that we don't know about? Cause how is she affording all of that?
Starting point is 00:40:21 So Justin and I are on the phone and we're like, we know how to catch her. We just need one of these fake Yanni people. I was like, I swear to you, if somebody approached her pretending to be a fake Yanni person, she would bite in a heartbeat. She's not going to get away from that. Justin's like, you're crazy. I find all this out from Tom about what she's done with him. Amanda and I are on the phone one day and we're just sort of connecting like friends just laughing and we're like, how has no one caught her yet? Like at this point, her rearrest warrant had been out for a while. She hadn't been turned in. She was running from the police. I think they had gone to her mom's house once
Starting point is 00:40:58 or twice and she'd gotten away. We also were kind of in the dark because the admin group was running a couple different schemes to catch her that we were not all aware of at the time. Amanda says those Yoni massages are the one thing she would risk it all for. That's the thing she's obsessed with. Could we maybe come up with a fake business that does that, that would be closer to her and more accessible because from what we looked into it, everyone that does that kind of care is on the coast.
Starting point is 00:41:28 There's no one really in the Midwest that does this. She was like, what's a place that's close to where she lives that's like kind of hippie? And I threw out the name of Bloomington, Indiana, which is where IU is. It's a very small city, but a blue dot in a very red state. I have a graphic design background. So I made an Instagram account. I made it in 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I called it True Renewal Bloomington because I had just been watching The Real Housewives of New York. And in the early seasons, one of them has a facial product range called True Renewal. So I made that and I was like, I'm going to buy followers and then I'm going to request to follow Megan on it. And I promise you, we'll get something out of this. And Justin's like, you're crazy, but that might just work. So I made it, followed her.
Starting point is 00:42:11 The next day was this sting operation that didn't go through. And Justin and I were laughing when the sting operation was going on because they posted in the group that she had been arrested. And I'm like, oh, my God, this is so embarrassing. I just made this Instagram account that is like a fake erotic account for nothing. People are going to find out about this and they think I'm creepy. But then it came out that they had to let her out of the car after that and that's to no fault of their own. So we just didn't delete the account and Megan didn't respond to it for a couple weeks because her Instagram account was private. We requested to follow her.
Starting point is 00:42:45 We were going to approach her from the perspective of like, oh, we're a new business owner. Could you give us a tip? Because she had been saying that she was going to write about her experience with that sexual healing stuff. She fell for it. And I think a couple weeks later, it would have been like right around late August,
Starting point is 00:43:03 four in the morning she's scheduled a call for that day. She's messaged, I want to be your first client. Is this a male or female practitioner? I'm so glad you do this work here. I'm ISTA trained. ISTA is the Yanni practitioner website or something. You know, it's not like a medical legit thing, this line of work, but it's like some sort of purveyor of this type of stuff. From that point, she was in. But I never messaged her on the account, Justin did.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I just made the account. And so we invent this character called Xavier St. Clair, who is one of these practitioners. And we make up a fake company called True Renewal that's just getting started and launching their social media branding. Located in Bloomington, we like find the address was a real office building. Like everything we did made sense. We sort of had our bases covered.
Starting point is 00:43:55 And so we thought Megan loves to present herself as an expert on things. She loves to claim she was a speaker on, you know, at different conferences that she wasn't even at. If we hit her with a follow request from an account like this, she's going to bite. There's just no way she'll be able to leave alone. So we follow her on our Instagram account that we've made and we waited.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Megan gets put in the back of a police car and gets released because the warrant that they had her on was not extraditable from the county. That was a whole different scheme that Alyssa and Vero had run that we didn't know about. So that's kind of coincidental. We hit her with that follow request the night before. Then this happens and Megan gets away and Megan is indignant on social media the next couple of weeks. She is begging for money, hiding in an Airbnb. She's making posts every day about how she doesn't have money for food. I think a lot of people in the group, especially those who had been a part of the first scheme to get her, were just feeling really dejected.
Starting point is 00:44:58 She's just never gonna pay a price for what she's done. Another warrant at some point around that time went out in which it was an extraditable warrant. At that point, if we caught her anywhere in the state of Indiana, she would have been taken to jail. The follow request that we hit her with sat for like two or three weeks. And we sort of, you know, had moved on. We were like, Oh, that didn't work. And then one day she accepts the request and immediately DMs the account. And her first message was,
Starting point is 00:45:30 how do I get on your wait list? And from that moment on, we sort of knew this is gonna be the thing that gets her. Next time on Something Was Wrong. Once we started messaging, it didn't take long for her to just start trauma dumping in a way that you would not believe.
Starting point is 00:45:50 I'm talking 30 to 40 messages to every reply she would get. So we're messaging her on the Instagram. She's very enthusiastic, to the point where I'm like, Justin, this weekend she's going to want to meet up. So we were like, we need to loop someone in on this to get help. So we text ****, we're like, we are very ashamed, but we have something to tell you. This is the interesting thing.
Starting point is 00:46:15 She could see my cell phone number on Telegram the whole time. And she never looked it up, she never ran the number. When she finally tells about the legal troubles, it's like, well, they say I left him homeless, but like, I don't really care. Like that's their problem. Just so flippant, no remorse. Thank you so much for listening.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Something Was Wrong is a Broken Cycle Media production created and produced by me, Tiffany Reese. Thank you so much to our associate producers, Amy B. Chesler and Lily Rowe. Thank you to our audio engineer, Becca High, and our social media marketing manager, Lauren Barkman of Luxury Media. Additional thanks to our partners, Grant at Wondry,
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