Something Was Wrong - S22 Ep11: Double Down (Finale Part 1)

Episode Date: December 27, 2024

*Content Warning: false death of a child, stalking, sexual assault, false reporting, abduction, vehicular death, fraud, scams, suicidal ideation, threats of harm, disability abuse, and harassment.Sour...ces: Forensic Foreplay. (2023, May 5). [Video]. Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/ForensicForeplay/videos/939338244180665MyCase Indiana: https://public.courts.in.gov/Hamilton County Inmate Records - Stoner, Megan Elizabeth: https://secure2.hamiltoncounty.in.gov/inmates2/Jail/Inmate/Detail/-1282383 Protect the community from ongoing criminal activity by revoking the bond of Megan Stoner, Change.Org Petition: https://www.change.org/p/protect-the-community-from-ongoing-criminal-activity-by-revoking-the-bond-of-megan-stoner Alix Brewster on X: @alixbrewster https://x.com/alixbrewster Justin Sexton on X: @JustinSextonIN https://x.com/JustinSextonIN Megan Stoner Chronicles on X: @ChroniclesMegan: https://x.com/ChroniclesMegan Chloe Anagnos on X: @ChloeAnagnos https://x.com/ChloeAnagnosDon't Waste This F*cking Podcast: The Story of Megan Stoner, by Amanda Peterson, Excelsior Studios: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dont-waste-this-f-cking-podcast-the-story-of-megan-stoner/id1757463535 Resources:Free + Confidential Resources + Safety Tips: somethingwaswrong.com/resources   Theme Song & Artwork: Thank you to NeonHoney and GIBBANEZ for covering our theme song, Glad Rags’s original song U Think U this season. NeonHoney’s IG: https://www.instagram.com/neonhoneymusic/ NeonHoney’s Website: https://neonhoneymusic.comGibbanez IG: https://www.instagram.com/@gibbanezmusic/ Gibbanez Linktree: https://linktr.ee/gibbanezmusicGlad Rags: https://www.gladragsmusic.com/ The S22 cover art is by the Amazing Sara StewartFollow Something Was Wrong: Website: somethingwaswrong.com  IG: instagram.com/somethingwaswrongpodcast TikTok: tiktok.com/@somethingwaswrongpodcast  Follow Tiffany Reese: Website: tiffanyreese.me  IG: instagram.com/lookieboo 

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Starting point is 00:02:06 The podcast in any linked materials should not be misconstrued as a substitution for legal or medical advice. Megan Stoner's responses to these allegations are addressed within this season. I'm Tiffany Reese, and this is. something was wrong. Last episode, we learned how Alex led the charge in uncovering the mysteries behind Stoner's Teslas. Alex connected with Stephen of Mason Motors, who pursued a civil lawsuit against Stoner for
Starting point is 00:03:21 inadequate pay and falsifying insurance documents. The case documents also revealed allegations that Stoner had stolen the identity of her ex-roommate. And although Stephen and his company Mason Motors won the civil case, Stoner has yet to pay the judgment of $68,0002.10 and further criminal charges have not been pursued at this time. When my team and I first started working on this case, summer of 2024, I spoke with community member and former Politico Justin in one of my early interviews. I'm so thankful to Justin and all of the participants this season for their time. In one of our early interviews, Justin prepared me for my first conversation with men. Megan.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Before you talk to her, and I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job. You obviously know what you're doing. But I'm very well seasoned in dealing with him. He's going to approach you as I've made some mistakes in my life. I'm trying to write my wrongs. It's been really hard to be under this amount of scrutiny. She's going to come off as the most pathetic person you've ever met and you're going to come away feeling very gas-laid and probably even questioning,
Starting point is 00:04:32 is it the right thing to do? You cannot give her a platform. to spin that needle, it has to be direct questions like, why did you take the money from Tom on this day? Because if you let her paint with a broad brush, he will if you let her and she will make you feel bad for her. Even if you think you won't, you will. When speaking with someone like Megan Stoner,
Starting point is 00:04:55 I knew I had to play my cards correctly. This is why you'll often hear me playing dumb with Megan. I don't want to come across too strong, as I want to keep her talking, but I'm also trying to get her to give me information. At this point, the police had already visited Stoner in jail to try and get her to talk and she refused. But I also knew that Stoner loves attention
Starting point is 00:05:15 more than anyone I've ever studied or encountered. She loves it so much that she often puts her own best interest to the side in order to get it. Hello, this is a call from... An inmate at the Hamilton County Jail. Thank you for using Global Tellink. Hi, this is Tiffany. Hi, this is Megan Stoner.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Thanks for taking my call. I spoke to Justin, and he told me that he would pass along my number, so I'm glad it got to you. Yeah, I was just curious if you could tell me a little bit about your podcast and kind of your angle on my story. Yeah, so my name is Tiffany Reese. My main podcast that people know me from is called Something Was Wrong, and essentially audio documentaries is what I make. We've been doing it since end of 2018 now. So the original season started with a story that I came across through someone I knew. But since then, all of our seasons and stories come to us through the listeners.
Starting point is 00:06:13 So we actually have a website where we get submissions. And I actually had multiple people submit your name and this Facebook group that essentially was started surrounding the crimes you've been charged with. Given the public nature of this case, I've been able to review a lot of the materials. quickly. So yeah, I thought I would reach out to you and see if you would be interested in making a comment. I have a pretty decent idea of what the allegations against you are and what is in the criminal record. And I could certainly go over that from a fact-checking perspective with you and have you comments on that if you wanted to or some people go, no comment. You know,
Starting point is 00:06:58 it's really up to you. I mean, I'm happy to touch face with you in November. Okay. We're going to air the story regardless, but we will just list it as no comment then. Okay. If you want to get back in touch with me before then, you can just let Justin know if he's still speaking with you, and then we can arrange it that way if you'd like once I've had more time to like talk with more people and vet more of this stuff myself. Okay. I might check with you in a month or two then, yeah. Perfect. Yeah, that would be great. All right. Take care of yourself. All right. Bye-bye. My second jailhouse call with Stoner was on September 27th, 2024,
Starting point is 00:07:41 while she was creating plans for her looming release on November 15th. I'm so glad it's finally worked. I know that we've been having some trouble getting in contact. It's been a phone tag week. I apologize. The app hates me. How's it been going? It's been okay.
Starting point is 00:07:56 You know, I've got seven weeks left today and I'm... Seven did you say? Yeah, seven weeks. I'm looking forward to getting out. As you can imagine, I'm just looking forward to seeing my aunt and, you know, my dog, and hopefully starting a new life as much as I can. Do you go into some sort of housing or how does that? Because you have, I'm assuming they have, like, probation or whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I do. I have probation for a year, but unfortunately, I found a place, but if I hadn't found transitional living, I would literally just be on the streets because I'm not underneath supervision other than probation. so they would have just basically let me go regardless of if I had a place to go or not. So thankfully, I guess, found a transitional living. We'll see how it goes. And then you go back to the court in Elmwood County Court, right, on December 19th?
Starting point is 00:08:47 Elwood, sorry. It's okay. It's okay. Yeah, I have a city court case in December, and then I have a probation violations. I found guilty in Elwood on the 20th and next day in a town called Annerson City. court. Yeah, those are kind of my next two court dates. This is a house cleaner that claimed that I guess she wasn't paid. But shockingly, my mom and I both paid her. So she got paid double. And we both, I have both receipts. And one is from my mom's debit card account, and then one is from
Starting point is 00:09:20 my cash app. So I look forward to presenting that to the judge and hopefully getting that dropped. Do you have a public defender or are you pro se? I do. I do. I have a public defender in both cases. Okay, because I noticed there had been a lot. It seemed like you had changed counsel a lot. And they wouldn't like you represent yourself? No, they don't like you representing yourself. I mean, there was one gal that tried here in Hamilton County,
Starting point is 00:09:46 and they ultimately ended up sending her to a mental hospital over it. And until she agreed to get counsel, they wouldn't let her out. Does your public defender have any insight into, does he think you'll save time for these upcoming pending charges? No. He doesn't. It sounds like you think you can get the theft thrown out. Yeah, I'm hoping so.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And then my license is no longer suspended. And so the judge is pretty lenient there. I mean, it's city court. And then in Anderson City Court, it sounds like I can just pay off my fees and hopefully be off probation there. I'm hoping to get that done when I get out. I think I got $800 or whatever left to pay on that one. So I'm hoping to get that paid.
Starting point is 00:10:29 and I can be off probation in Anderson and yeah I'll just be on probation in Hamilton County and then eventually I'll get it transferred when I move Is there any sort of like plan in place for paying back or some of the other people that are smaller amounts? Like I know you're in the whole pretty deep
Starting point is 00:10:49 because Mason Motors and Stephen in that case but what is the actuality you think that you'll be able to pay those back? Yeah so my My first will be the Hamilton County case because my plea stipulates that has to be done first before anything else. So once that money is paid, let's just say roughly $3,000. Once I can get that paid back, then I'm going to start looking at my other people that I owe like E. And Edward and other people, but yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:11:22 It will be a while before I even get to Mason Motors. I've been counseled that, you know, on those bigger ones, I should just declare bankruptcy, so I don't know what's going to happen. On December 19, 24, Stoner pled guilty to three criminal misdemeanor charges in Elwood, Indiana. One was for a criminal misdemeanor case opened on July 12, 2023, for violation of driving conditions pursuant to distracted driving and driving while suspended. The other criminal misdemeanor she pled guilty to was open. opened on July 31, 2023, for possession slash display a fictitious-sus suspended altered driver's license,
Starting point is 00:12:12 operating a motor vehicle without financial responsibility, speeding, and driving while suspended. The third criminal misdemeanor case was for a case opened on August 2, 2023, for theft. On September 19th, Stoner's Anderson City Court case was closed and her, quote, probation was closed due to defendant's incarceration, end quote. This case was Stoner's criminal misdemeanor opened on March 1st, 2022, for operating a vehicle while intoxicated, endangering a person, operating a vehicle with a schedule one or two controlled substance, and speeding. As of December 23rd, 2024, Stoner still has an outstanding balance of $682 for her fine,
Starting point is 00:12:57 court costs, and filing fees for this case. In relation to the other cases she pled guilty to, she was ordered to pay a $250 fine. Back in September, my second call was stoner abruptly ended because of bad cell service. My next call with her was three days later, on September 30th, 2024, where we jumped back into reviewing the timeline of her crimes once again. I'm glad it worked. I think I finally figured it out.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Thank you for doing so. Yeah, no problem. I don't know if you are considering making further comment, but if you'd like what I can do is similar to before go through essentially the timeline document that we have now that it's filled out and I have all the sources filled in and like basically we have gathered and intend to include. Or we can just leave it at no comment in general. it's completely up to you. And since we spoke before, and we had talked about potentially speaking again, I just wanted to make sure you had the opportunity
Starting point is 00:14:06 because the trailer is going out not this Thursday, but next Thursday for early release. So we're about two weeks out at this point. Okay. What are you thinking your first episode is going to be? Can I ask? We honestly haven't decided yet. We've gone through all the footage,
Starting point is 00:14:24 and it's all marked and scripted, as we call it. but we are actually like making the decisions of how we want to approach it and the structure and stuff still. We're still finalizing that. And I also wanted to wait until this conversation too. I try to like not make that call until I've pretty much finalized every anticipated interview. And I have our call today. I have one more call with Alyssa, hopefully tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And then I have a pending call with Sergeant Modlin, who is the, officer on this case. Gotcha. I did listen to the interview with Pastor Stacey and Michael Anderson. What they allege is when you were 15 or 16
Starting point is 00:15:09 years old, you falsely accuse them of texting you to invite you to come over to watch Stacey and Michael have sex as one another. Stacey and Michael report that they called the police and the police spoke with you.
Starting point is 00:15:25 They're claiming that it was found out that you had fabricated the text messages, and therefore the allegations against them were false. And again, the source is the Facebook live interview with them. What was the name of the Facebook people that interviewed them? My aunt's been trying to find that. It's called Forensic Foreplay. What they allege, though, is that the cop not only spoke to you, but that after speaking
Starting point is 00:15:49 to you, that you were essentially a psychopath. That's what they said in the interview. My mom, Ovi, he's not a psychologist. or a psychiatrist who can diagnose me. Okay. Space Burnside. I reached out to her.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Her testimony was in the Twitter space live, and she essentially alleges that you tried to convince her that you were involved in an Indiana-based sex trafficking ring, similar to PizzaGate. She claimed that you claimed that the Attorney General senators and governor were sexually assaulting you on a daily basis and that you told faith Burnside some of these men had faith phone number and they began texting her violent and sexually explicit messages and that it was discovered later that you were the ones sending those messages to her
Starting point is 00:16:50 that's not true that my only comment on that one so it was alleged by some of the members of previous Facebook groups that you were in such as spice girls and cute servitives the allegations are that you would essentially take on the stories of other people in these groups and pretend that the same things that were happening to them were happening to you some examples are they're alleging fake stalking stories about you being stalked by a medical professional or a local politician, fake deaths of loved ones. They're alleging that you lied about sexual assault
Starting point is 00:17:34 and that you lied about getting run off the road by I-town. Okay. Yeah, I will just leave it at that then. I'm not trying to leave war with everyone, obviously. Hi, my name is Lainey, and I met Megan Stoner through the Spice Girls' Facebook groups around 2016. I had seen Megan post a few times, and it was always stuff that,
Starting point is 00:17:59 came off a little bit weird. Like, she just didn't know how to do something that seemed really basic. And so I was kind of like, she knew the friend. And then Megan and I started talking when she made a post, she had been sexually assaulted. I later found out that she was alleging she had been sexually assaulted by an Indiana House of Representatives member, Brian Bosma. She told me directly, yeah, that she had been sexually assaulted by Brian Bosma. She told me that she worked for him, which I now know is not true. And she had made a post about having a hard time because she had. she was just dealing with this sexual assault. And so I reached out to her because I'm a survivor of sexual assault. I see this girl around. Like, it looks like she needs a friend. Maybe I can be that friend to her. And so I reached out to her. And that's how Megan and I started messaging.
Starting point is 00:18:41 We talked a lot to the Facebook Messenger. And then at one point, I gave her my cell phone number. I wouldn't say that I considered her a close friend. I think she may have considered me a close friend. She reached out to me a lot for, like, help with stuff. I considered more of someone that just needed somebody there for them that I was just trying to help support and be nice to. She told me that Brian Bosma made her sign an NDA
Starting point is 00:19:06 and asked me to take a look at it because I was in law school. At this point, I was starting to think something is not adding up here. I would like to see this NDA. So I had her send it to me. It was an NDA talking about like business practices. It would be something that like you would sign if you worked at a company, certainly not something you would sign if you were assaulted. She forged Brian Bosma's signature at the bottom.
Starting point is 00:19:29 them. And I remember looking at it, and I was like, this is not right. And so I went on Google and copied and pasted the first paragraph of the NDA into the search with quotation marks. And it came up to some website. I don't know the exact website, but it was the equivalent of www.org get itnDA.com. So she was passing that fake document around that she's, I don't know if she forged his signature on it or photoshopped it in or what, but it was allegedly signed by him. And so I told Megan, I was like, This NDA doesn't cover any type of sexual assault or anything like this. This is talking about business practices. This wouldn't make sense for him to have you sign.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And frankly, if he's an Indiana House of Representatives, then he would have people on his staff that know that. Megan doubled down and was very adamant, like, he made me sign this. He made me sign this. This is real. And I was like, all right, whatever. She told me that she had a therapist, his name was Adriano. I don't know if this person is even real.
Starting point is 00:20:24 He's a figment of her imagination or if he's some poor, real therapist that she decided to take on. But she told me that she saw him a few times. And then, of course, he started stalking her because everybody loved to stalk Megan and that she was trying to flee from him and that he followed her across the Orleans one night. She was like, wouldn't that be a felony? And I was like, probably so. But why is this man following you? What does he want from you? Like, are you safe? And she was like, yes, I'm back home now. Well, then later she told me that Adriano showed up to her house and stripped down to his underwear on her front porch and that she freaked out and had like talk him down that he was going through a psychotic break and that she was terrified of him
Starting point is 00:21:07 and he was a stalker and just like all this craziness but again i don't know if this was even a real person did you ever get her to admit to any of this no she would never admit to anything this girl would just double down everyone was out to get her everyone was wrong but her after she got put out of the groups, everything started coming out about her lying and like how crazy it was. And so I just kind of faded to the background. There's a lot of different groups. She got put out of some groups but wasn't in another group. And she posted about she needed help and that she was sorry for everyone she'd hurt and that she was taking inventory of herself and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:45 And it really pissed me off because it was so ingenuine. It was so obvious that she's not actually sorry. And I sent her a message and told her to shove her apology up her ass. Then she blocked me. Wow. And that was when she left the Facebook group, that was still probably end of 2018 or so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Okay. Allegations against Basma. Do you want to speak to that? No, I'm good. Okay. There was conversation that at one time you were working with a journalist at the Indianapolis Star and that those journalists harassed you at some point. were you ever working with an Indianapolis star reporter on a piece related to sexual assault allegations?
Starting point is 00:22:40 No, I'm not commenting. My case noted the civil case between yourself and your aunt. It looks like it's settled as of now. Has that debt been fully repaid? My aunt is considering dropping a lawsuit. My aunt and I had become extremely close as with my mom's, death, and she regrets taking it out of the family. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Again, very sorry for your loss of both of your parents. It's difficult to lose loved ones. I'm curious what you would say to the allegations that your parents had some records and some things on their background that were perhaps a little bit shady, basically that your parents had some charges and some misdemeanor, fraud, scam. charges on their records. Oh, my mom might have some bad check. Honestly, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I was a child. Would you say your parents were like honest people? Were they involved in any of your crimes? My mom was 100% an honest person. That's why, you know, you will see that she even paid the cleaner when she, the cleaning lady when she had heard that she wasn't paid on time. My mom was an absolute honest person and my dad was too. Both had integrity and both raised me much.
Starting point is 00:24:00 better than the choices I made. Okay. Now, Tom, I interviewed him at length, and I will say he supplied a significant amount of organized evidence. Is there any comment you want to make on that situation? No. At one point, there was conversation between you and Alyssa about writing a letter to the credit card.
Starting point is 00:24:30 company to clarify the charges on credit report. Did that ever end up happening? No. She was promising bail money if I did it. Got it. Is that something you would be willing to consider in the future? You know, actually, I just won't comment. I will just say I felt very perverse into things because she was like,
Starting point is 00:24:55 I'll bail you out if you do this and this and this. And I really didn't have a choice I felt because I just wanted to get responded out this time last year. Okay. Did you specifically target Tom and because of their disabilities? No. They were friends of mine.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Do you have guilt with that consideration? Yes, I do, but I think that's a tough question because neither will speak to me to get resolution on the situations at hand. And I think both have been blown way out of proportion.
Starting point is 00:25:30 obviously it's hard to stomach a lot of the manipulation. I think that was the hardest part for me to take in. And I think that's the reason why people were so motivated, because it's one thing to scam a corporation. It's another thing to scam a person. It's a whole other thing to scam somebody you know has disabilities, right? Or you know is by definition. more susceptible to this kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:07 But I don't view them more susceptible because they're very intelligent human beings. My intention was never to scam. Right. But when you were talking to Stephen in the Tesla text as Abby, you outlined in detail the ways that autistic people can be impacted by those sort of interact. and autistic people are more susceptible to gaslighting and fraud,
Starting point is 00:26:36 both from a data standpoint and a psychological standpoint. You have one minute remaining. I guess I was just curious, you know, because it seems to me like you perhaps targeted them because of their disabilities. I did not. Okay. I hope not. I did not.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Okay. They were my friends. Yeah, they trusted you. really thought he had you as a friend. And you broke his heart. There's allegations of fraud against the small business administration that you obtained a PPP loan fraudulently. Do you have any comment on that?
Starting point is 00:27:20 I did not obtain it fraudulently. Okay. Okay. On the Sinking Arc podcast, there was allegations against I-Town. They're alleging that you lied about getting run off the road by I-Town and that you lied about
Starting point is 00:27:39 I-Town sending you the box of sex toys. I know there was this fake murder for hire plot. I spoke to Pastor Jeff Thompson and I actually interviewed Lee Roy's on the record. Do you want to comment on any of that? No, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Okay. This was confirmed through a few different interviews, and, you know, some screenshots were sent and links, et cetera. But essentially, this I-town controversy and that somebody had allegedly shot your mom. Do you want to comment on that? No, I think everything, I think everything speaks to itself. What about Bulldogs Moving Co? You put it out in court. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Something that was mentioned here about you creating a go-fund-me while you had pending legal charges. Were those go-fund-mees posted under false pretenses or were they legitimate funding exercises? The money went to the moving company, not bulldogs, so the moving company would help me move. I needed some money to get my stuff out of storage. no, the money was provided to them immediately. And I had to provide proof to go fund me
Starting point is 00:29:01 because go fund me try to shut it down several times because people complain, whatever. Okay. Stephen Mason, I will say I read the 128-page civil document. In it, you make claims that you have a child that, again, dies, I believe a 12-year-old child in the text messages. Do you want to make any comment to that? No. Did you give an interview?
Starting point is 00:29:25 he did not. I tried to reach out to him. It's pretty detailed the civil documents, but I also understand, like, a lot of people are just, like, over it. They want to move forward and they don't want to talk about it anymore or be associated with that when they're, like, you know, and more of the public eye are, like, business people, things of that nature. Okay, there was the DWI that was then changed over to the OWI, which kind of led to some of the warrants and things of that nature. Do you want to make any comment on that? Yeah, it was due to cough medicine that was in my system,
Starting point is 00:30:03 which everyone knows I made that very trouble with, and the fact that I was on allergy medicine, and they tried to say that I had above the therapeutic dose. I will say that I was at my mom prior to getting pulled over. My father was passing away, later passed away a few weeks later. It was my birthday. anyone that knows me knows I've never had a drink of alcohol.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I've had maybe one to the wine. But other than that, everyone that knows me knows I don't drink. It was just a situation that I couldn't argue. They said it was above the therapeutic level. Okay, I have a prescription, and there is nothing else that could really be said. So I pled guilty and got a year probation. Okay. Haribo.
Starting point is 00:30:46 He can interview. Not yet. Is he going to? I'm not sure. I have not heard a response yet. But I have seen the online posts that you made alleging that he sexually assaulted you. Do you want to clarify any of those claims? I would just say that, you know, our relationship that we had was a very intimate and close relationship.
Starting point is 00:31:11 My trauma was on full display, and I had a lot of things that I had to navigate here during that time, and I believe that Harry and I did still successfully, and we were talking as of the time that I was arrested last year, so 12 months ago, and we spoke once or twice why I've been in jail. Okay. Do you have a current relationship? I've been locked up, so I don't know how you want to classify that. Do you speak on a frequent basis, would you say, like in the more recent months?
Starting point is 00:31:48 Well, we were starting to work. together when I got picked up last year. Got it. And how long did you work together in total, would you say? And how... February, March, April, May, June. Then we kind of paused in June. He was out of the country for his honeymoon. And then we picked back up when he got back
Starting point is 00:32:09 in late August, September, right before I got arrested. Hi, I'm Hannah. I met Megan Stoner, I believe, back in 2016. She friended me on Facebook, and for years, she's been the topic of many group chats because we were all friends with her. We had all fallen into somehow the algorithm suggesting and whatever she's a friend in all of us. There was some element of watching kind of a train wreck in some way. She just was a lot on the internet, and it was entertaining. I think her looks really played into a.
Starting point is 00:32:53 a lot of how she got away with her scamming. And in the beginning, she was just attacking everything with so much confidence in a way I admired it because I felt like I've kind of struggled in my confidence in some areas of my life before. And when she was running for office or doing all these things, I thought, if she's doing it, so can I.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Like, I support that. You're wanting to like make a difference no matter what, and you're not letting anything hold you back. Then you've come to find out everything, and it's all like a house of cards, and none of it was real. It makes you have this weird feeling. All of her victims are like a similar type of person, like a good-hearted person, a trusting person. She's damaged society in a way, where she's made it so people are less trusting. Like the trusting and good-hearted people in the world are a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:33:53 jaded now because of her actions. She's posting all this stuff about Harrybo and the Yoni massages. Some of my perspective shifted in speaking with Haribow because he did kind of become a friend. And Haribo is a victim in this majorly. He genuinely was trying to help her. He's not a therapist. He's a sex guru, I think this is a technical title. He lived in New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:34:21 in his early 30s, and she was stealing the money from $1.00 to pay Harry Bow. She racked up a debt with him at one point, and he had suspended their services until she could pay it. She eventually did. But he didn't know what to believe. When I contacted him, I sent him something that was like, I know I sound like a crazy person. but you've got to believe me, this is what's going on. I'm worried it's happening to you. We got on the phone.
Starting point is 00:34:59 It took me a little bit to convince him. Then we talked several times after that because she started filing false sexual assault allegations. I have all of my text messages. So we first connected April 30th of 2023 and we last connected. September 11th. I was just keeping him updated with stuff that was going on. So I sent him April 30th, Chloe's tweet that says justice is finally served. Megan Stoner's arrested for fraud stealing and lying is long overdue and said, hi, Harry, she has been charged with several counts of felony fraud, and I was wondering if you have any experiences with her. That would be of note. Have you heard about this?
Starting point is 00:35:48 And he said, I haven't heard about it. And I haven't had any sense. serious issues with her. And then I sent him the finding pleasure after sexual violence, like Canva article thing, the don't waste this fucking session, this whole like, band hairstyle profile she wrote about herself. I said, and have you been compensated for your services? That seems to be the common theme that she's not paid for services and products she has agreed to and has tried to install in money from many people. And he said, may I ask how you'll be using this information. I said, I've personally experienced some of the scamming, and many of my friends have as well, but there are many others who've had far worse done to them because of her actions.
Starting point is 00:36:30 There's a group of people who are trying to uncover the truth behind what has been going on. You've been a large character in the things she has said online, so I just wanted to reach out and see if everything was okay with you in case the things she's saying aren't true. There have been instances of her claiming people are connected to her who are not. And he said, finances are something that Megan and I have had some challenges with. It's definitely an area of improvement for her. What have you personally experienced? And I told him about the rent scams. And he said, I'm sorry to hear all this. I do have a contract written up with her. And if she fails to pay, I'll take legal action. But so far, she's been coming through on the
Starting point is 00:37:10 payments a little late at times, but still coming through. If it does get ugly, I'll let you know. and he didn't respond to those after that. But then I sent him screenshots from Twitter of her DMing with someone saying, hi, are you around? So I probably should warn you this mentions trauma and sexual assault, but not in graphic detail. I was doing some body work and I realized it's going to sound questionable.
Starting point is 00:37:40 It was my second session, and when the professional I've been working with went to, do internal massage work, I don't remember him asking. And this is where I vomit every time because there's no good solution. I have prior trauma, so it's possible I dissociated. I could go to the police, but I don't feel that would help me, and I'm not sure what the solution is. This person wrote back, is this the professional you've been writing your book about?
Starting point is 00:38:04 And she said, yep, and doing the NYT stuff with and speaking about. I'm really conflicted. Do you have any advice? this had been posted to Twitter. Those screenshots of somebody's DMs with her who posted them. I sent them to Harrabo on April 30th at 1041 p.m. and said, Harry, I know you probably think I'm crazy,
Starting point is 00:38:26 but I'm genuinely trying to protect people from being future victims. I just received these screenshots of messages where Megan is accusing you of sexual impropriety. This is another one of her patterns. She has accused many pastors and Indiana elected officials of sexual assault and rape against her, which have all been found to be untrue. Even some she admitted she made up.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I just want you to be aware of what she has been leading people to believe. The next day, he texted back, thanks Hannah. I'm going to have a talk with Megan tomorrow. We got on the phone on May 3rd. My like kind of Hail Mary to speak with him was, Carrie, I watched your video on human needs, and you said something that really resonated with me, contributing my energy to solving injustices and suffering I see in the world.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And I very much wonder if I'm doing that, but always actively strive to. You and Levinas speak very eloquently and explain things very well, and I truly have enjoyed watching your videos and hearing your thoughts on navigating conflict and loving relationships. I realize, again, you must think I'm a nut, and I really would love to just introduce myself properly to you so you know I'm not. Can I schedule one of your time slots with you for a phone call tomorrow so you can better? know me. He said, hi, Hannah, I don't think that you're a nut at all, and I appreciate your persistence in connecting with me. I'm open for a call today between 10 to 12 or 1 to 2. Any of these times work for you. And I said, 1 p.m., great. That's when we spoke on the phone, and we spoke for
Starting point is 00:39:53 about an hour, two different times. That's next time on the season finale of Something Was Wrong. Thank you so much for listening. Something Was Wrong is a broken cycle media production, created and produced by me, Tiffany Reese. Thank you so much to our associate producers Amy B. Chessler and Lily Rowe. Thank you to our audio engineer, Becca High, and our social media marketing manager Lauren Barkman of luxury media. Additional thanks to our partners, Grant at Wondery, Marissa, Travis, and our team at WME,
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