Something You Should Know - How to Tackle What’s Really Important & The Way Food Fights Disease
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Chiara. It means smart in Italian.
Too bad your barista can't spell it right.
So you just give a fake name.
Your cafe name.
Julia.
But the more you use it, the more it feels like you're in witness protection.
Wait a minute. What kind of espresso drinks does Julia like anyway?
Is it too late to change your latte order?
But with an espresso machine by KitchenAid,
you wouldn't be thinking any of this.
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Today on Something You Should Know, if you want people to trust you, smell like lavender.
It'll make sense when I explain it.
Then it's finally time to stop postponing those important things you really want to do.
We can prevent regrets if we replace the I can do it later with how can I do it this week or this month or this year.
And we will never regret doing all those things.
Calling us will only regret not doing them sooner.
Also, how to project power and confidence just by the way you hold yourself.
And food as medicine. There's fascinating new evidence on how food fights disease. Right now,
doctors are not giving prescriptions for food, but in the future they may be. In the meantime,
when you're at home, the health care you can do for yourself is the food that you choose to eat
three times a day.
All this today on Something You Should Know.
Chiara, it means smart in Italian. Too bad your barista can't spell it right,
so you just give a fake name, your cafe name, Julia. But the more you use it,
the more it feels like you're in witness protection. Wait a minute,
what kind of espresso drinks does Julia like anyway?
Is it too late to change your latte order?
But with an espresso machine by KitchenAid,
you wouldn't be thinking any of this
because you could have just made your espresso at home.
Shop now at KitchenAid.ca.
Something you should know.
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The world's top experts experts and practical advice you can
use in your life today something you should know with mike carothers hi you know what a lot of
people got for christmas of 2021 smart speakers if you got one if you're new to the world of smart speakers, they are so cool.
They do so much. But one thing they do really well is play podcasts.
And while I can't speak for all podcasts, I know that if you ask Alexa or if you ask the Google smart speaker to play the Something You Should Know podcast,
they'll know what you're talking about and they will, just by saying that, they will play
the latest episode. First up today, if you want to appear to be more trustworthy to other people,
it might be a good idea to surround yourself with the scent of lavender. Because when other people
smell it, they're more willing to trust the person they're dealing with. In an experiment, 90 young adults were separated into three groups
to play a game that tested interpersonal trust.
During the game, one group was exposed to no scent at all,
the second group to the scent of peppermint, and the third to lavender.
The ones who smelled lavender were significantly more willing
to entrust money with someone else than people
in the other groups. Researchers say the olfactory nerve, which affects smell, is connected to
that part of the brain that controls how we trust others, and that lavender has a calming
effect, whereas peppermint is more stimulating. And that is something you should know.
We all have things in life that we say we want to do.
Trips we want to take, things we want to accomplish, people we want to spend time with.
And somehow those things never get done.
Why?
If they're so important, why are we not doing them?
And then there are a lot of things taking up time in our life that we'd really rather not do.
So why are we doing them? How do we fix this?
That's the question I'm about to put to Sam Horn.
Sam is a speaker and writer of several books, and her latest is called Someday is Not a Day in the Week. Hey, Sam.
So this idea of doing what you want to do, doing the important things in life
and eliminating the things you don't want to do,
doing that, when you say it out loud, it just makes all the sense in the world.
So why don't we do it?
Why don't people just naturally stop doing what they don't like
and do what they think is important.
Yeah, oh boy. See, you know, this is about procrastination. And the Buddha said, the thing is,
we think we have time. See, that's the allure and the temptation of someday, is that because we're
busy, we think we'll do it later, as if we're going to have more time later. Do you know anyone
who has more time than they used to? So once you realize that now is the new later, then you stop
putting things off automatically. In fact, there's a little test that we can use to stop procrastinating
on even little things like chores and so forth. Want to hear it? Next time you're about to put something off, ask yourself these four questions.
Number one, do I have to do this?
Number two, do I want it over so I'm not feeling guilty about it or worrying about it?
Number three, how much time does it take actually?
And number four, the big one, will it be any easier later?
Okay, so with these four questions, here's a wonderful success story
of someone who put them into practice on the way home from the workshop.
She said, Sam, I'm driving along.
I see a gas station.
I glance at my tank.
It's almost empty.
I think I should get some gas.
She said, well, guess what?
I said, I'll get it tomorrow.
And then I asked myself, wait a minute, do I have to get gas?
Yeah, I'm the only one that drives this car.
Do I want it over so I don't have to worry about running out on the freeway tomorrow morning?
Yeah.
How much time does it take to get gas?
Five minutes.
Will it be any easier tomorrow?
No.
She said, I pulled and I got the gas.
She said, I got home. I'm fixing dinner.
I opened the refrigerator. There's an out-of-date yogurt on the shelf. What do I think? I think,
I'll throw it away later. I closed the door, start walking away. Those little four questions
popped up in my mind. Do I want to throw away that yogurt so it doesn't start smelling up the
refrigerator? Will it be any easier later? It takes five seconds to throw away the yogurt.
It really can help us overcome the automatic postponement of things for no good reason.
Yeah. Well, who hasn't done that?
And I've heard that advice, too, that, you know, if something's only going to take two minutes,
why put it on a list of things to do later?
Just do it. Just get it over with.
See, you know, Mike, what you're just bringing up is the burden of the hassle of the accumulated
postponed task. Henry Miller said, life for most of us is one long postponement. And you know what?
It feels bad. We're carrying away this burden, and it is a path to regret.
In fact, I'll always remember I was speaking at a convention,
and the gentleman who introduced me had had a heart attack the year before.
Well, he had survived it,
but he said that what he couldn't stop thinking about on the way to the hospital,
having the procedure and so forth, is all those
things he had promised himself. You know, he and his wife had been talking about going to Hawaii
for years and had always put it off because they were so busy. He said, you know, he had promised
a family reunion, but there was always reasons, you know, oh, this kid has a graduation. Oh, this kid is in grad school. And then he realized that we can prevent regrets if we replace the I can do it later with how can I do it this week or this month or this year. And we will never regret doing all those things. Calling, will only regret not doing them sooner.
There does seem to be, when I think about this, some element of, yeah, I want to do these things,
but maybe I don't really deserve it. Maybe I'm being, you know, too good to myself and at the
expense of others. And that's why I'll put it off till later when I figure I do deserve it. Mike, you've just pinpointed is that
many people feel it's selfish to do something that puts the light on in their eyes. And a very
interesting cause of this is coming out. Do you know that young people in their 30s and 20s are
actually putting off marriage? And the reason is, is because many of them saw their parents sacrifice themselves for their kids.
You know, the parents didn't have any interest.
They were at every softball and soccer game, every dance recital, every piano recital.
And they think, well, I'm not ready to sacrifice myself for my kids,
so I'm not going to have them right now.
So I'm asking everyone out there is that do you believe that putting other people
first is the right thing, the noble thing to do? Are you leaving yourself out of your own story?
And where did you get that message? And is it a healthy message? Do we really want to model for
other people that we never do what we want, that we always do what
other people want. It is not selfish to do one thing a week that puts the light on in your eyes.
It's smart. I'm not talking about doing it all the time. It's just that so many of the people
I've met interviewing people around the country is that they are self-sacrificing
themselves for others because they think it's the responsible, right thing to do,
and what they're modeling is self-sacrifice, which comes with too big of a price.
Well, that's an interesting take on why people are putting off marriage, as if it's either or,
that if you get married and you have kids, now you have to go to
every softball game and you can't do anything for yourself. And there are plenty of people
who manage to juggle both of those things and are quite happy.
See, I'm so glad you're bringing that up because I hope people imprint these five words. What we accept, we teach.
So see, and what we model, we teach.
So as you said, there are people who have determined that as an adult,
it is my responsibility to model for my kids that you can raise children
and you can have your own interests and hobbies,
and that it is not an either or, it's both, that you can raise children and you can have your own interest and hobbies,
and that it is not an either-or, it's both,
and that by making sure that, yes, I come to some of your games and your sports and your school activities,
and I also have my own interest,
that is what we're teaching our children, that everyone counts
and that you don't give up everything you want to do and only do what
the people around you want to do. So it does make you wonder why this is so hard. I mean, lots of
people will hear you say this. Most of them will do nothing because it's too hard to change the
routine or they don't think this applies. I don't know what it is, but most people don't change.
You know, Mike, once again, you keep pinpointing,
you're taking us deeper into the cause of this,
because only when we get crystal clear about these habits,
these habitual ways of living, do we look at them and change them.
In fact, John Cotter out of Harvard says,
do you know what the number one prerequisite is for change?
A sense of urgency.
And see, if we don't have a sense of urgency,
then once again we're assuming we can do it later.
Now here is a way to give yourself a sense of urgency.
It's called an S-E-E.
That's a significant of urgency. It's called an S-E-E. That's a significant emotional event. And most S-E-E's
are dramatic or traumatic. You know, we have a health challenge. We lose a loved one. We get
divorced. We get fired. And see, we come face to face with our mortality. And we realize that the
clock is ticking and that we need to do things differently now.
Well, I think, why wait to have an actual S-E-E?
Why not have an imaginary S-E-E so we can get the epiphany without the pain,
so we can get the urgency, so we're motivated to do things differently now instead of later?
Now, I've got a favorite success story
of that. Do we have time to share it? Sure. So let me remind people, though,
that I'm speaking with Sam Horn, and she is author of the book, Someday Is Not a Day in the Week.
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So, Sam, you wanted to share a success story you like, so go ahead and do that.
Great. Well, I was doing a workshop in Waikiki,
and one woman, what she wasn't doing that she wanted to was being adventurous. And I said,
well, like, what's an example? She said, well, here I am in Hawaii. And she said, I haven't
stepped foot in the water because I saw jaws when I was a kid. Big mistake. I said, okay, the way to hack a fear is to make the daunting
doable. She said, what do you mean by that? I said, you don't have to go in the ocean,
the deep ocean where you have to worry about sharks. I said, do you know about the natatorium?
It's only three feet deep. It's where Duke Kahanamoku used to train for the Olympics.
And it only has one small break in the seawall,
so the surf can't get in and neither can the sharks.
She said, okay.
I said, now, another way to hack a fear and to give yourself urgency
is to put a date on the calendar.
Because one of these days is none of these days.
I said, when are you leaving?
She said, two days from now.
I said, tomorrow is the day. I said, now set your clock for 6 a.m. She said, why 6 a.m.? I said, because
the sun is going to come up over Diamond Head at 6.30, and you want to be at water's edge,
about to step into that natatorium water when the sun peaks up over Diamond Head. She said, why is that so important?
I said, because experiences are more meaningful when they're metaphorical.
I said, now there's one more way to hack a fear.
I said, here's my card and my number.
I said, promise me you will send me a picture of you doing this so we can celebrate it together.
Guess what, Mike?
Two days later, I get this smiling picture, Beverly at Water's Edge.
And so it goes to everything you're saying.
If you want to hack a fear or this sense of complacency
and give yourself a sense of urgency is make the daunting doable.
So you don't have to go back to college and get your degree.
Just make a phone call and sign up for one class.
Make it meaningful and metaphorical.
Maybe you can picture all of your family there when you finish that first class
as proof that you can make your life more of what you want it to be now and not someday.
Put a date on the calendar.
You're going to call today before the, you know, the end of business day.
You're going to call that local community college and find out a class.
And if you do those things, you get yourself out of inertia.
And see, when we're in inertia, nothing happens, right?
Just set something in motion and you will have momentum and now you're on a roll.
And it does take that change in thinking. You have to stop doing the someday I'll do this and
instead do it. Aviation pioneer Chuck Yeager, who actually was the one who broke the first
sound barrier, he said, at the moment of truth, there are either reasons or results.
And I'm asking every single person listening to this,
someday at the end of your life, you're going to look back,
and you're either going to have reasons, reasons why you didn't do things,
reasons why you put things off, or you're going to have results.
And you're going to have either regrets
or results. And here's a quick example. Yesterday, I have this Someday journal, and the day's quote
was from Stephen Covey. And he said, we are not a product of our circumstances. We are a product
of our decisions. And I looked outside, and it was a beautiful day outside,
and I asked myself, what am I doing inside?
So I put on my shoes, and two minutes later I was out the door.
And I'm walking along.
I'm moving and I'm grooving.
I'm infused with energy.
I'm feeling so lucky to be alive.
And one of the things you're talking about, Mike,
is that if we stay with our habits, we're often staying sedentary. We're often staying inside.
And inside is where the reasons reside. Get outside. Because when we decide to get outside,
now we're feeling energized. Now we're seeing other people doing things.
We are motivated by what they're modeling is that life starts outside.
And you're thinking, Sam, it's still winter.
There's still snow for some people.
Even that is going to motivate us more than staying inside where the reasons reside.
That is another way for us to get the energy and the motivation to do something different
instead of just staying stuck, sedentary, sitting in our head, living with regrets.
I wonder, though, and I've had this conversation with other people about the idea of people who say they want to do things,
but maybe they don't really want to do things. Maybe they say they want to do things, but maybe they don't
really want to do things. Maybe they say they want to write the great American novel, but they never
get to it. Maybe they say they want to take a trip around the world, but maybe they don't really.
Maybe they just like saying it and believing it. We talk about dreams, and I really believe that
we're never too old to have new dreams
and that the key, instead of just talking about it,
is to just take one step to try it.
Martin Luther King said you don't have to see the whole staircase
to take the first step.
So see, instead of thinking I'm going to write the great American novel,
that's so daunting.
You know, what if it's not any good? What if we're not a very good writer? Instead of thinking I'm going to write the great American novel, that's so daunting.
You know, what if it's not any good?
What if we're not a very good writer?
Oh, my gosh, it's going to take so long.
So, see, we talk ourselves out of even trying.
Do what James Rollins did. You know, I had the privilege of helping to start and run the Maui Writers Conference for 17 years.
And you may know James Rollins.
He's a New York Times bestseller. He has more than 18 New York Times bestsellers. But that's not how he started.
He was a veterinarian in Davis, California. And he came home on his 40th birthday,
and he was exhausted. And he fixed himself a TV dinner. He sat down in front of the TV, and he's flipping through channels.
There's Tony Robbins, and Tony Robbins says, what's your dream?
He said, if you don't get up off the couch right now and do something to move it forward, it's never going to happen.
So instead of just saying, but I'm busy, but I have my own, you know, he got up.
He went over.
He called his local Barnes & Noble. He asked if they had a reader support group. Every Tuesday night, they
did. So he put it on the calendar, and instead of trying to go it alone, he went it together.
Because in a group with other people, sometimes we don't have much energy. We get to jump on the bandwagon of their energy.
And I will always remember that he was standing at our opening reception.
We had something called the Manuscript Marketplace where you had a guaranteed look by a top agent and editor.
And he hears someone talking about who is going to win the Manuscript Marketplace.
And that not only is this person going to win, but that he's going to introduce him to his agent and to his editor, both at the conference. Well, he turns around,
it's Terry Brooks, sort of Shannara, great sci-fi fantasy writer, and he's talking about his
manuscript. And James says it never would have happened if he didn't get up off the couch in that moment of inspiration
and call and get support and put himself in a community instead of trying to go it alone,
where he probably would have run out of discipline, run out of perseverance,
and run out of his own conviction that this is something he wanted to do.
So for the person who has just listened to you
and been motivated by what you're saying,
that yes, you should do the things that you want to do,
but where do you start?
If you've been living your whole life postponing everything,
how do you begin this so that you actually start moving towards
doing the things you want to do?
I'm going to recommend you GTS that stuff,
Google that stuff. And here's a quick example of what I mean is that if you just get an inkling,
you don't have to commit to it right now. Just what is something that calls you or that you
think might be fun or that you haven't tried before that you'd like to try. There was a woman who moved to New York,
and she had been an actress in her high school plays, in her community theater,
and so she moved to New York with dreams of being on Broadway. And she said a year later she is still sleeping on a friend's couch.
She's still working as a waitress.
She's still going to audition after audition and being rejected.
And she felt so lonely. And she heard about something called Daybreaker. And she decided
to go. Now, Daybreaker is in almost every major city around the United States. And it was started
by Radha Agrawal. She and her twin sister, Mickey Agrawal, were out dancing one night, and there was a bouncer at the door, and a lot of people were on substances,
and it felt dangerous.
Well, they were entrepreneurs, and they said,
okay, we're going to do the opposite of this.
What if we had a dance party in the morning instead of at night?
What if instead of substances we had green juice?
What if instead of a bouncer we had a welcome party?
Well, this young woman instead of a bouncer, we had a welcome party? Well, this young
woman went to a daybreaker, and she said she made more friends in two hours than she had in almost
two years in New York City. And she said she found her new home, and she never would have made that
switch. She probably would have gone back to her hometown with her tail between her legs
if she hadn't just reached out one time, if she hadn't GTSed, you know,
a community and found this dance party.
And it only cost $25, and it changed her life.
So what I'm reaching out to people, Google that stuff.
If you like dogs, just put in, you know, where's a local dog park,
where you can walk your dog at the local dog park instead of just walking around the block.
If you like horses, maybe you can volunteer.
Maybe you don't have to own a horse.
You can't afford that, but maybe you could volunteer at the local therapeutic horse center.
I guarantee you if you Google and put into search something that you're thinking about trying,
whether it's music or whether it's art or whether it is gardening,
you're going to find something in your community.
Just go once.
You don't have to commit to going for the next year or signing up for six
months. Just go once. Get your bandwagon out of your bedroom, and I bet people will jump on it,
and you can get that momentum that carries you forward into a life you like instead of one you
regret. And who doesn't want that? Sam Horn has been my guest.
She is a speaker and writer. Her latest book is called Someday is Not a Day in the Week.
There's a link to her book at Amazon in the show notes. Thank you, Sam.
You're welcome, Mike. And thanks so much. I appreciate having the chance to do the show with
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I think we all have a general sense of what it means to eat healthy and that there are nutrients and things in food that keep us functioning
and they keep our organs and cells working
and we're not really sure exactly how it works.
It's all a little bit vague, but it all works.
And now it seems that some of
the foods we eat can do much more than that. They can actually help to prevent and even fight
disease, some serious disease. And this is relatively new information. Dr. William Lee is
at the forefront of all this. Dr. Lee is a pioneering scientist and physician who has
served on the faculties of Harvard Medical School,
Tufts University, and Dartmouth Medical School.
He's author of the book, Eat to Beat Disease.
Hi, doctor. So talk about your work in all of this, how this is all coming together.
For the past 30 years, I've been working, looking at common denominators of health and disease. And the one thing we've discovered is that health is not simply the absence of disease,
but rather it's the result of hardwired natural defenses that are inside our bodies that are
firing on all cylinders hard at work from the time we're born till we take our very
last breath.
Some of those defense systems, and there's five of them that I think are particularly important because foods can
activate each of these defenses. All right, so let's start with that. Let's tackle those five
things. The first one is angiogenesis. That's how the body grows blood vessels. Our circulation blood vessels bring
oxygen and nutrients to every cell in the body, protects us against sickness. The second one is
our regenerative system, our stem cells. We were taught when we were kids that salamanders and
starfish regenerate. People don't, but that is now turned on its head because scientists have now
discovered that we do
regenerate from the inside out using our stem cells, and foods can activate that too.
The next defense is our microbiome, our healthy gut bacteria, which is really filling our bodies.
We've got 39 trillion bacteria within our bodies. So you could consider that we're infected but not
sick. In fact, quite the
opposite. These bacteria communicate with our organs and even our brains to help keep us healthy.
Our DNA, which is much more than our genetic code, actually protects us against harms from
the environment, whether it's ultraviolet radiation at the beach or fumes we might
actually inhale at a filling station where we're putting gas in our car.
And then our immune system is our final health defense system. And we've always recognized that as protecting our health,
but we now know that our immune system is more powerful than we ever imagined
because there are breakthroughs in cancer research that show
if you give a cancer patient an immune therapy that doesn't kill the cancer by itself,
but just lets the body do what it wants to do, you can wipe out cancer completely.
And what's really remarkable is that there is real science that shows how more than 200 foods
can activate one or more of these systems to boost our health.
So how so? Give me an example.
For example, soybeans, right? So soy foods have gotten a scary reputation in recent years because
many people believe that a plant estrogen that's found in soy might cause breast cancer. Well,
we know that human estrogen can actually fuel breast cancers, some breast cancers,
but it turns out that plant estrogens are nothing like human estrogens and, in fact, can counter them.
So soy can actually be used to fight cancer, including breast cancer.
What I read about in my book is a study of 5,000 women who already have breast cancer, and it was found that those women who ate more soy actually had better survival and less chance of having the
cancer come back. And so how does the soy work? It actually cuts off the blood supply feeding
cancers. So one example of how foods can help us right-size our defenses to protect us is soybeans
that actually cut off the blood supply. So it removes too many blood vessels that are feeding cancer. Another sort of example of that is in fact tomatoes. And people have now begun to question
whether tomatoes are a good food or a bad food because they might or might not be related to
the nightshade family. Well, look, tomatoes are an amazing source of vitamins and a naturally
occurring chemical called lycopene. Lycopene
is anti-angiogenic, meaning that it cuts off the blood supply to feeding cancers. And a study of
almost 47,000 men showed that those who ate two to three servings of cooked tomatoes, that's tomato
sauce, per week had a 30% reduction in their risk of developing prostate cancer.
So here you have two of the biggest fears of men and women, where diet actually activates
our health defenses.
Okay, so here's the thing that always concerns me and I think confuses people into inaction,
because they don't know what to do with this information.
So does that mean that I can eat a bowl of spaghetti sauce once a month and I'm fine?
Do I need to eat 16 bowls of it every day for the rest of my life? And is a little soy sauce okay?
Or do I need to eat a plate of soybeans every day? So how does it, what's the prescription?
Well, what you're talking about is exactly the confusion that exists out there in the public
right now, which is that we've been so trained over the last decades on the latest superfood
or the super diet and looking for that magic pill or magic bullet. And there are people writing
diet books all the time that claim to cure disease. And so precisely as you brought up,
there is no magic food that you should be eating
all the time. If you take a look at the 200 foods I put in my book and pick the ones that you love
and figure out how to incorporate those into your diet over the course of a week or even the course
of a month, you're adding good things to your diet that actually support and activate your
health defense systems. That's the new direction of where food as medicine is going.
We're not talking about deprivation.
We're not talking about subtraction or limitation.
We're talking about adding foods to our diet,
starting with the foods that we already like.
And so then what about the people who eat horribly and live to 150 years old
and they smoke a pack of know, smoke a pack of
cigarettes and have a fifth of gin every day? I mean, there's always those outliers that seem to
defy everything you're saying. That is a great question. And in fact, it fits what I'm saying
about the health offenses precisely. What I will tell you is that modern research is discovering
that some people seem to have extraordinary health defenses,
that regardless of what you throw at them, their hardwired defenses seem to be able to fight off all those harmful effects better than other people.
Because, of course, we also know there are some people who are jogging and running and juicing every day who wind up having, developing horrible diseases. And so the question is, you know, well, why did they not actually,
why did they succumb and why didn't they actually survive despite the fact they were,
you know, doing Pilates? And the answer really is, it's not about the food. It's about how our
body responds to it. It's about our body's defenses. So some people have stronger defenses
than others. And the goal is really to
try to boost our defenses based on our knowledge. And so if your immune system is down, we should
try to boost it. If your circulation can be improved, now there are ways to actually improve
our circulation. If you're at risk of cancer, for cancer, the science says that we can actually
knowledgeably choose foods among many that we can add into our system that can actually tip the scales a bit more in our favor than against the favor of the disease.
So again, no single prescription, no magic bullet, quote, healthy diet, lots of fruits and vegetables and nuts and lean meats and that, is that okay?
Or do we need to drill down and get more granular than that?
Broadly speaking, you know, I think the general wisdom is whole plant-based foods are good for us, and that's true.
But we're actually now beginning to understand what's
in individual foods. What's in a strawberry? It's an acid called ellagic acid. What's in
coffee? It's called chlorogenic acid. That's actually good for us. What's in
dark green leafy vegetables? We know what that is as well. And we begin asking deeper questions. So for tomato, the lycopene that I
was mentioning to you, is there some varietal tomato that's got more potent lycopene than
others? And the answer is yes. For example, researchers have been looking at which tomato
varietals have the greatest amount of lycopene. You go to a farmer's market and you're offered,
the summer, we're offered such a huge variety, which one do you choose?
It turns out the San Marzano tomato from Italy,
even the ones in the can are packed with lycopene.
It turns out the cherry tomatoes actually have the lycopene of a big tomato
just packed in a more concentrated, smaller package.
Those are excellent.
And there's an orange-colored tomato called the tangerine tomato
that's also very rich in its lycopene as well. So we can
drill deeper. And we also know that if we're leaning forward into choosing our foods,
some foods mix well together. So for example, the lycopene in tomato, the good stuff is actually
dissolved in fat. It's a fat, we call a fat soluble bioactive. And so when you actually
cook a tomato with olive oil,
then you eat that together, you wind up absorbing more of the lycopene into your bloodstream. So
yes, we can drill deeper. We're beginning to do that science now. But at the end of the day,
most people aren't interested in the science. They're interested in something that tastes good,
that they can afford, that they can find. And that's what eating the beet disease means,
is that regardless of your socioeconomic status or where you live or what you do for a living or
what your culture is, you can find food that science is telling us can help activate our
circulation, our stem cells, feed our healthy bacteria, protect our DNA, and activate our
immunity. And does food fight disease once you get it, or are we just talking about preventing
disease so you don't get it? Right. So the schism between is it medicine or is it food,
I would tell you that it's both. Now, I'm a medical doctor that's actually spent most of
my career helping to develop cutting-edge biotech treatments for unbeatable diseases. And so I know firsthand just how
powerful medicines can be. And yes, foods can be even more powerful because we can prevent
disease itself. And that's one of the promises of having a healthier diet started earlier in life.
But even if you're sick, think about it. Your doctor will give you a prescription or the
hospital will do something for you. But when you're at home, the health care you can do for yourself is the food that you choose to eat three times a day.
Right now, doctors are not giving prescriptions for food, but in the future, they may be.
In the meantime, health care is actually what happens between visits to the doctor's office.
That's what I can tell people is that that's the decision you can make yourself. And so if you're sick, besides the medicines
you're getting, you can actually choose foods that activate those defenses. And nowhere is this more
pressing, for example, that, I mean, every patient that I've ever seen who has cancer
is always interested in what foods they should actually eat. Science is starting to provide some of those answers, and it's not definitive.
There's a lot more work to be done.
But I think that, you know, we're beginning to enter this era where food becomes a tool in the toolbox.
And if you do this, how potent is the food in the sense that if I identify that I need to eat soy more often, how much more often?
And if I stop, do I lose all the benefits or does it linger or is it changed from food to food or what?
All important questions, some of which are remaining ahead for researchers to answer.
But the idea is to eat diversely among those foods that activate your health defenses.
So it's, again, trying to get away from this idea that, like, pick one food and eat it all the time.
But rather, what are those foods activating?
And if they're activating your immune system, can I choose among different foods that I like that will all activate my immune system?
In terms of how long these effects last, here's something amazing. In young people,
drinking some fresh orange juice actually can start to protect your DNA against damage within
20 minutes after you start drinking it. It's pretty amazing. You start seeing these changes
so quickly. Another study that I cite talked about eating kiwis, whether you eat one kiwi or three kiwi a day,
that also help to protect your DNA but also boost your immune system.
I'm not saying food is a magic answer.
I'm saying it's an important tool in our toolbox.
What you just said, though, brings up a really important issue and a frustration for a lot of people.
There are so many people who are
concerned about nutrition and obesity who are pounding the drum against fruit juice. And you
just said orange juice will help protect your DNA. So do we not drink it because of all the sugar,
or do we drink it because it protects our DNA, or do we throw all this out
and go have a Coke because nobody can really decide? You know, when you talk about individual
foods, we tend to actually have a reductionist view. So you think about fruit juice, you think
about the sugar, and that's got to be bad because sugar is bad for you. But really,
if you think about a whole plant-based food, they may have sugar in it. They have a lot of sugar in
it. A great example I give is not just only orange chips, it's like a mango. It's not even a juice,
it's a fruit. A lot of people are afraid of the sugar in a mango, but in fact, what they don't
realize is that along with that sugar in that mango, when you eat it, you actually have fiber,
you have vitamins, you have bioactives. There's at least two bioactives that boost your immune system,
can even target cancer stem cells, help feed your gut microbiome. And so by taking a larger picture
view, I think we start to see that although there may be some things that we want to have a little
bit less of, on balance, there may be more components of the whole foods that we eat
that can actually help support our defenses.
I think people are so used to the advice of cutting out foods,
that getting rid of unhealthy foods is what's so important.
And you're not talking about that at all.
You're talking about adding foods to your diet. And so, which is so important? And you're not talking about that at all. You're talking about adding foods to
your diet. And so which is more important? I mean, obviously, you think adding foods is more
important, but what about the concern of reducing or getting rid of unhealthy foods as a way to
be healthy and live a longer life? The idea that I try, I found most successful for people is that,
is not to tell them to cut things out, but to say, hey, you should add this.
And if you make more good decisions over time than bad decisions,
then there's less room for the bad foods that you're eating
and more effects of the good foods that you're eating.
And so it is a balance for sure.
It's a net balance.
When you look at all this food, is there anything, because it's never jelly donuts and French fries,
it's always asparagus and broccoli. Is there any food that like falls into the category of
pleasurable that actually is good for you? So you might be surprised, for example, that hard cheeses actually have been
shown to reduce cancer risk. Why? Because some of the hard cheeses like Gouda, Emmentaler,
Jarlsborg cheese, they're actually made with a bacteria starter that as a side effect of the
bacteria kick out a special kind of vitamin called vitamin K2. This vitamin K2 actually cuts off the blood supply feeding
cancers. It's anti-angiogenic. And so surprise, when you go to the EPIC study, looking at
thousands of patients, you see that people who eat the equivalent of about two slices of hard
cheeses, like you see in hotels in Europe, small amount of cheese, actually they have a lower risk of lung cancer.
Some other surprises, for example, dark chocolate.
As if anybody needs another reason to love chocolate, there's been a research study done at UCSF
that actually studied in people with coronary disease.
So they've got blockages in their heart blood vessels that if you actually give them dark chocolate
that are packed with
these flavonoids, these are the healthy bioactives, those bioactives that eating that chocolate
can coax out their stem cells that help them to repair and regenerate their blood vessels
and improve their blood flow.
How much do you need to have?
Well, in that study, it was having two cups of hot cocoa made with dark chocolate
twice a day for 30 days. And so, again, these are not sort of generalizable. This is the data.
Take a look at it and sort of make your own conclusions. But pretty convincing to me as
a research scientist, as a doctor, that food does have an effect on our body.
Well, this idea of food as medicine, I think, really appeals to people.
It would appeal more to people if jelly donuts really were a medicine. But nevertheless, I think
it's very exciting. Dr. William Lee has been my guest. He is a scientist and physician who has
served on the faculties of Harvard Medical School, Dartmouth Medical School, and Tufts University,
and his book is called Eat to Beat
Disease. You will find a link to his book at Amazon in the show notes. Dr. Lee, thank you.
My pleasure, Mike. Thank you for having me on.
Have you ever seen someone walk into a room and immediately know that they're the one in charge?
Well, there's a couple of reasons for that that are largely about body language, erect
posture, gestures made with palms facing down, and just generally open and expansive gestures.
The brain is hardwired to equate power with the amount of space that people take up.
Standing up straight with your shoulders back is a power position.
It appears to maximize the amount of space you fill.
Slouching, on the other hand, is the result of collapsing your form.
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