Somewhere in the Skies - BONUS EPISODE: YOUR Thoughts on the Pentagon UFO Report!

Episode Date: June 27, 2021

Welcome to a special bonus episode of SOMEWHERE IN THE SKIES. Well... it's here! The unclassified UFO report for the public released on June 25th... to VERY mixed reviews! The report, a mere nine page...s in total, encompasses 144 observations - mostly from U.S. Navy personnel - of what the government officially calls "unidentified aerial phenomenon," or UAP, dating back to 2004. Labeled a preliminary assessment, it was compiled by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence in conjunction with a Navy-led task force created by the Pentagon last year. Was it what you expected? Was it a huge letdown? I sent out a call to YOU, the listeners, to give me your thoughts on the report and you did not disappoint. My special thanks to everyone who voiced their thoughts on the report and what comes next! Here is the Official Pentagon UFO Report: https://bit.ly/3hpzWwb Here is the official press statement by Pentagon Press Secretary, John Kirby: https://bit.ly/3h8QcBn Patreon: www.patreon.com/somewhereskies Website: www.somewhereintheskies.com Somewhere in the Skies Subreddit: www.reddit.com/r/SomewhereSkiesPod/ YouTube Channel: CLICK HERE Official Store: CLICK HERE Order Ryan’s book in paperback, ebook, or audiobook by CLICKING HERE Twitter: @SomewhereSkies Instagram: @SomewhereSkiesPod Watch Mysteries Decoded for free at www.CWseed.com Episode edited by Jane Palomera Moore Opening Theme Song, "Ephemeral Reign" by Per Kiilstofte SOMEWHERE IN THE SKIES is part of the eOne podcast network. To learn more, CLICK HERE Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/somewhere-in-the-skies. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, what's up guys, Ryan Sprague here. The Pentagon UFO report has finally landed. And it reveals that all those sightings of bizarre flying things over our skies fall into several categories require more study and remain largely unexplained and unidentified. I gave my personal thoughts on the UAP report in a very special YouTube live stream over on the Ryan Sprague YouTube channel. I broke down the report page by page line by line, and I had some special guests show up as well, so please head on over to the Rinespring YouTube channel if you really want to know what I thought. But today, we're hearing from you and your thoughts on the Pentagon Report.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Was it all what you expected it or wanted it to be, or was it all just a huge, huge letdown? We had some pretty different views and responses for this, so sit back and enjoy the you. UAP report in your own words. This is somewhere in the skies with Ryan Sprague. Hello, Ryan. This is Jason Gilmette with UAP Studies podcast. So talking about the report that was released, I read through it. And of course, there was keywords that I was looking for. I found them. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:01:50 The other thing that I thought was a lot of interest to me was that most reports described by UAP as objects that interrupted pre-planned training and other military activities, meaning that this happens on a frequent basis. It's not just one-offs. This seems to happen a lot, which means that these things have interest in whatever military is up to at the time. So that is a cost of concern for the military and also for the protection of, let's say, the United States or any other country. And as Christopher Mellon mentioned in his recent tweets, do not forget the extraterrestrial hypothesis, which of course seems to be missing from the report to, and just shy of saying it, but it doesn't quite say it yet, which again, it addresses in the report
Starting point is 00:02:36 about the stigma and the problem with people not coming forward in the past because of the stigma, radical, and of course a lot of the pilots were grounded and not allowed to fly if they reported UFOs. It's very discouraged. But now it sounds like they're saying, no, no, no, let's get all the reports. Let's actually start looking at this seriously. And if they have the budget and the means to do so, that all the data that was collected by Mufon will be put to good use. Interestingly enough, I find the lack of Air Force and Department of Energy within the report to be a little concerning. I'd like to see that because they've had huge involvements in the past with craft recoveries and, you know, it's no secret. So that being said, I think that the report was straight to the point talking about how we take this seriously because it is a cause of concern.
Starting point is 00:03:28 there is technology there that seems to be above and beyond what we're capable of doing. And it does mention that there are different crafts. They seem to maneuver differently or behave differently. So all the reports that we've had in the past have always dismissed objects and saying that it's no cause of concern or that it was nothing there. And yet this report says, no, there is something there. It warrants further investigation, further funding. Foremost, more cooperation from everybody.
Starting point is 00:03:58 That's it for me. Take care, Ryan. Hello, somewhere in the skies. Ryan, everybody listening. This is Daniel Miller, aka SciCOP from UFO Twitter. Just chiming in to share some of my initial thoughts regarding the release report. I thought the report was fantastic. It actually vastly exceeded my own expectations. Reports from the Director of National Intelligence aren't usually the most engaging things to read.
Starting point is 00:04:28 ever and given the limited time, the limited resources, I expected the scope to be very limited. And I honestly, I didn't know what to expect. I thought there was a chance they would just say nothing to see here. I thought they would maybe just shut this thing down because this is kind of an avenue of momentum we currently have within the Department of Defense. And if the Pentagon really didn't want to deal with it, this was a very good chance to do so. But given the briefings that were being given to the Senate Intelligence Committee and the House Intelligence Committee leading up to this, you know, their reactions being more than just there's nothing here. I was interested to see what the report would say.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And I am pleasantly surprised, not just by what was within the contents, but what happened afterwards. So let's go through a few things real quick. So one of the few takeaways that I think is obvious, but is good to have on the record because many people seem to not be sure about it is just how the task force here absolutely has access to data from multiple sensors. You know, this isn't just something from personal accounts, personal eyewitness accounts that are reported after the fact. A lot of these cases contain sensor data from multiple systems that really help corroborate
Starting point is 00:05:43 that whatever they saw was most likely a physical object, which is another thing mentioned in the report. That thing is important is that they mentioned in most of these cases, remember correctly, that these are most likely physical objects, not just. just sensor errors or, you know, radar spoofing. We don't exactly have the details as to why they have that confidence, but I think that's important to note. Perhaps someday we will find out.
Starting point is 00:06:09 You know, not betting on it, but more details may emerge as time goes on. Another really interesting nugget was the fact that they go over how the Navy had changed the reporting policies for UAPs for their pilots back in 2019. But it was news to me was that the Air Force did the exact same thing months later in 2020. You know, as we all know, the Air Force doesn't have the best reputation in commenting or dealing with this issue the past few decades. So the fact that they as well changed the reporting policies a few months later, I think, is a great step in the right direction. And I'm sure they run into these things, whatever they are too. And speaking of those reporting policies, they also mentioned the report that of the 144 cases, I think it's 144.
Starting point is 00:06:55 for. Most of them came from just the last two years that when those reporting policies were changed, I'd be really curious to know the specific numbers, but I think that's really interesting that this number may not be indicative of the last, you know, almost two decades, but maybe just the last few years. So that A, shows how often this happens, but also B, shows that these changes in reporting policies are working, that the stigma within the military is absolutely being destroyed because the preponderance of cases shows that the pilots are indeed reporting them and that the system is working. And then they, oh, let me bring this up, actually, the report, it says, let's just say, yeah, it says a handful of UAP appear to
Starting point is 00:07:44 demonstrate advanced technology. So this is super interesting. It says in 18 incidents, observers report, unusual UAP movement patterns or flight characteristics. So I think that's interesting both in the maybe somewhat low amount of the 144 that specify advanced characteristics but also high. I mean, 18 of 144. I mean, if any, just one of those
Starting point is 00:08:07 is true. That really is a bit of a game changer. But what else really interested me is that besides kind of explaining what they did, you know, how they're stationary against moving wind, they also mention that in a small number of cases, military aircraft systems processed radio frequency energy associated with UAP sighting.
Starting point is 00:08:31 So that is super interesting because that is certainly something that wouldn't be the case if it was a radar spoof or a seagull, you know, unless seagulls are really, really stepping up their game. So I found that one of the most interesting little tidbits in that report. But moving on from the details to the larger picture, the reason I found this report so fascinating is that given the last 70 years of history, you know, you have the conclusions from Project Blue Book. You have the before that, the Robertson panel.
Starting point is 00:09:05 You have the Condon Committee in the 60s as well. All those conclusions always said, hey, this isn't a national security issue. Let's move along. This is not worth looking into, and this is not worth the time and resources of our military or our scientists. and this report is stating the opposite. They want us to take it seriously, and not only do they want to take it seriously, but something that I thought wouldn't happen for months, if at all.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Kathleen Hicks, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, if I have that right, second highest defense official made a request. There's a little leaked memo. I don't know if it's leaked. It might have been released. That request the DOD to make a permanent kind of, kind of effort resourced to continue
Starting point is 00:09:55 the task force mission. So I think that is stunning. I think that is a huge, huge move. They require that within sightings of UAPs, it has to be reported and sent to whatever entity this might be within two weeks. So there is now a deadline
Starting point is 00:10:13 and punishment for not meeting that deadline. So yeah, I think that's crazy. So I've rebelled long enough. I will stop. but looking forward to hearing what everyone else has to say. Thanks guys. Hey Ryan, at UAPHRO from New Zealand again supplemental. The memorandum issued by Kathleen Hicks instructing reporting of UAP, particularly around training ranges, I think has more weight and significance than the vanilla words in the report to Senate,
Starting point is 00:10:46 and I think shows great promise and great progress in thinking in the direction within the military in relation to the UAP phenomenon. Great news. Keep up the good fight. Ryan Sprague, what's up, man? It's Jojo Wright from the podcast, Paranormalish. Hope you're doing good. Yeah, this report is interesting. And I wanted to get your take on it because, and here's my thoughts on it.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I know you wanted us to sit in our thoughts, but for the, those people that were hoping that the government were going to say things like, hey, you know, we have UFOs and it's true. They were never going to say that. But I think in my opinion, this is probably the closest they were going to get to it. I mean, and I guess at some point their stance is going to inch closer to actually saying something like that, but, you know, all in due time. And who knows? I mean, the public report was, I think, well, nine pages.
Starting point is 00:11:44 but the classified report was 70 plus pages, so who knows what was in that. And here's something to really think about to gauge the government's concern on it. It's always a, you know, follow the money. And I was reading over the report and the Department of Defense over the next couple of months, I think the next three months, they're developing a new strategy for collecting and, you know, tracking these sightings. So, and obviously that's going to take a fair amount of money. So if they do in fact do that, that shows that they are concerned enough to dish out some cash for it, which is the telling sign, of course.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Obviously, there's something out there. And I think the thing that the government doesn't want to speculate on is, I mean, we're all thinking it. It's got to be something that's not from Earth. I mean, but what is it? And to really, you know, obviously, could it be another country? you know, but are other countries, and maybe this is just being egotistical, thinking that the U.S. is first and everything,
Starting point is 00:12:48 but is another country that far ahead of us in technology? Maybe we're not first, but are we that far behind? I would highly doubt. So, you know, there's something out there. And what was it, like 140 plus cases? The only one they could really, you know, nail down for sure was, one of them was a balloon. Of course there's going to be a balloon in there somewhere.
Starting point is 00:13:10 but you know that's a lot of cases with you know I think they said some had some represented breakthrough technology which there's something out there one balloon and something else we'll see but I guess in all you know to wrap it up to wrap my statement up it's just getting started and it's an amazing time for UFO enthusiast and investigators and crazy people like you and me so that's that's my take on it and I definitely want you on the podcast, you know, Ryan's been on, he's been on paranormalish once before, and everybody loved his appearance. So when I can get you back on my podcast, that'd be great. But Ryan, uh, Joe, Joe Wright, signing off. Talk to you soon. Hey, Ryan, this is Brian from Northwest Washington.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Obviously, my head's still spinning about today's UAP task force report. But overall, I'm really happy with it. I think it laid the perfect foundation for what's to come. Like so many, though, I'm impatient about what will be disclosed moving forward. And I can't wait for it, though. A lot of good work to get here. I want to give you credit and a lot of your colleagues on UFO Twitter and out there, Alex Dietrich and Ryan Graves, especially and recently for coming forward. Just everybody involved in this space.
Starting point is 00:14:30 This is an exciting day. Cheers to you. Cheers to us. And we'll see what comes next. Hey, Ryan and all of the rest of the UFO Twitter community. First and foremost, I just want to say congratulations for everyone old and new who has put in some sort of effort, whether it's on the research side, public awareness, just talking to friends and family. You know, all those little things do help and is the reason why we are even having this conversation today. In terms of my thoughts on the report, which we were all waiting with bated breath to be released late Friday afternoon, June 25th, if you read the initial,
Starting point is 00:15:09 sort of scope of requirements that were defined by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, the report lines up almost exactly with what was asked for, and as such, you know, is huge and I think fantastic to see the ball moving down the field and the door cracking a little bit more open. I understand the cynicism that folks might have either because of should we trust the government when they say it's not ours, or because we know that there are aspects and elements that know more information than is in their report. I think, like with anything, things take time in an era of instant gratification and all the social media stuff. We're also used to getting what we
Starting point is 00:15:55 want now. But I think it's important for us to not lose sight on how fantastical it is that we're having this conversation about non-human intelligence as a source for these vehicles. This episode is brought to you by Netflix. Most valuable promotions in Netflix are hosting a blockbuster triple headliner Saturday, May 16th. Rhonda Rousey returns to face fellow woman's MMA pioneer Gina Carano in the main event. Plus co-main's Nate Diaz versus Mike Perry. And the best heavyweight in the world, Frances Nganoe versus Felipe Lens. Watch Rhonda Rousey versus Gina Carrano, live only on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Saturday, May 16th at 9 p.m. Eastern Center time, 6 p.m. Pacific time. Hey, Ryan, it's Chrissy. My thoughts on the UFO report. I know a lot of people wanted something else from the government. They didn't really want this narrative, but we should be really thankful that we did get something because for years we were just trying to get the government to acknowledge UFOs for the longest period of time.
Starting point is 00:17:01 So we have that now. And it's a step forward in the right direction. And it's step one at multiple steps, but at least we've gotten this far. So I'm thankful for that. Okay, so here's my take on it. I didn't really expect a lot. Just by listening to Lou Elizando, it was clear that this report would be preliminary
Starting point is 00:17:28 and that we had to hold our horses, but the people, you know, some people, you know, went with it anyway and expected it a lot. And then it came, and I honestly still still. got a little bit disappointed because, you know, there's like, it says nine, but there's, come on, there's six pages and there's nothing in there. But, you know, listen to Richard Dolan, and you might get a bit more positive on that report. So listen to what Dolan says. Hey, Ryan is Chas from Utah. There were a couple of things that I took away from the report coming out today. The first thing that I took away is that it just seems to be not,
Starting point is 00:18:11 nine pages of them expressing the fact that they want to find a uniform way of reporting all of these anomalies in the air, these UAPs. The second thing that I took away from it is that it completely legitimizes the phenomenon. Now they can't hide from the public that there's actually something going on. What that is, they seem to have no idea, but there is something going on, which is a good thing. Hey Ryan, it's your friend and colleague over at the debrief, Chris Plain. Yeah, thanks for reaching out. I think like a lot of us, I'm really excited about the report that came out today.
Starting point is 00:18:53 I think they did the honest thing. I think they did the right thing and admitted it's probably not an American black program. At least as of now, there's no evidence pointing to an adversary with this technology. and at least a significant number of reports that technology is showing those observables, showing those propulsion and maneuverability things that are making people concerned. I think following on the heels of that, the announcement from the DOD, they're going to put all their power behind it. And I think the announcement, and I just did a feature about that that will be up on the debrief
Starting point is 00:19:28 is probably already up. And I think that, them put in the full force, the Department of Defense behind it, NASA putting the full force of their scientists behind it, which the new head over there just announced. I think we're in a great spot, and I think we're in a whole new era. I think just like in 1952, like you and I talked about on Twitter today, when the Air Force came out and said, this is happening, and at least some cases we don't know what it is, and it seems extraordinary. Maybe instead of Blue Book, we get an honest analysis and a real look at this. Maybe we don't have to have congressional hearings.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Maybe the military and the scientists will do their job and we'll get a real answer. So I'm as excited as you are. Let's hope for the best. Go to the debrief. We're going to keep putting stuff up about it all throughout the week. Thanks, my man. Keep doing your work. Hey, Ryan.
Starting point is 00:20:23 It's Sean Kevin Jason here. Just thought I'd drop the line to leave my thoughts on the UAP report that was released by the DNI today. Actually, I was pleasantly surprised by a little paragraph they left at the end of page five. under U.S. government or industry development of programs where they went on to say that some UAP observations could be attributable to developments in classified programs by U.S. entities. So for me, that was a big one because, as you know, and some of your listening audience is aware that I've always been outspoken about my black triangle being a man-made craft and possibly some type of advanced stealth technology being used by the U.S. government or military.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And so for them to leave that door open, I wasn't expecting that given preliminary suggestions, leading me to believe that they were going to just outright deny any craft or UFOs could be manmade. So, you know, while it's not the answers we were looking for, they didn't roll it out, certainly at least with that aspect. And it's a preliminary report, so it's just laying the groundwork, and I guess we'll see where things go from here. but love to show, doing a great job, and keep it up, Ryan. The biggest takeaways from the UAP report for me is the fact that it's the first thing we're getting, right? This is the preliminary UAP report. We're expecting more.
Starting point is 00:21:48 We're going to get more. We're going to get the hearings. We're going to get more memos from the Pentagon. We're going to get more information. This is just the starting point, as Senator Markier-Rubio says, is the first step. So that's what I'm I'm most excited about. I'm most excited about what's coming. It has the potential to be to be very exciting.
Starting point is 00:22:11 So the UAP Task Force report is basically what I expected. It's a nice start. I don't know if anyone was expecting, you know, got their hopes up, but I think that's a lesson that I think UFO Twitter specifically just has these expectations and they're not met. It's automatically disappointment. So I think it's just, you know, it's a good start. And this is, you know, nine pages better than nothing.
Starting point is 00:22:31 And it's something to grow on. So, yeah, let's see what develops. Hey, Ryan. John Bot here. You know what? I'm not disappointed in this report. I think for people like you and I and the rest of your listeners, this was a disappointment. But for the mainstream and, you know, people that don't really pay attention, this is a big step, a huge step forward.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And I think, I think it's going to really open a lot of life. lot of eyes and bring a lot of attention to this subject, which is what we need. So that's my quick thoughts. Thanks for listening. Yo, what's up, Ryan? Okay, let me take a look at exactly what you wrote. My thoughts on the UAPTF report release. Okay, so here are my thoughts, my dude, I think this is better than what I expected. I love this report for a multitude of reasons. The first is that it destigmatizes the UFO-UAP discussion, not only from a national level, but from a militaristic level as well.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Nobody's going to be afraid of reporting about UAPs anymore. That's number one. Number two, the tone of the report feels like the government is begging for permission to study this topic. You know, they're asking for a budget. And even if we quadrupled the original budget for the ATIP program when Lou Elizonda was there, it's still less than $100 million. dollars. So, you know, the idea that they're asking for actual funds is not a request for actual funds. It's a request to study this. I don't think, you know, the military has the funds to study this. They could allocate resources and funds in different ways to make room for this budget.
Starting point is 00:24:50 So it wouldn't, it wouldn't need a congressional. approvals say to do it. But the idea that there could be, because of this report, a public office formed. I mean, just after we did our show today, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, who is Kathleen Hicks, has just released a statement from her office. and the subject was unidentified aerial phenomena assets. And the first thing that she essentially writes a plan that goes through the Secretary of the Navy
Starting point is 00:25:35 who heads the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force. And the first thing that this plan asks for or says it should have is it should establish procedures to synchronize collection, reporting, and analysis of the UAP problem set, and to establish recommendations for securing military tests and training ranges. So essentially, you know, these things are over military bases, over training ranges, and they are, they want procedures to synchronize the collection and the reporting and analysis of UAP.
Starting point is 00:26:18 you know it's a problem they call it a problem they call it the uap problem set um so this to me is telling me that the tides are turning there's a very very good possibility that we might see a permanent ua pt f office uh that has a head that is that has to answer publicly to public to public questions that may have to share findings and reports every year. This is massive. So I think the report was a huge win, and I cannot wait to see what the next couple of weeks brings. The information is coming in fast and hot,
Starting point is 00:27:11 so stay tuned, everyone. It's going to be a fun ride. as Samuel Jackson says, hold on to your butts, because this is going to get really, really fun. All right, Ryan, I think, I hope I didn't go too long. Let me see what you said. I think you put a time limit on. Try to, no longer than a couple minutes.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Okay, well, I gave you, I think, like four minutes, so I'm sorry, but you could edit it down however you feel. All right, buddy, I love you. Talk soon. Peace. Hey Ryan, this is Audrey, and I wanted to give you my thoughts on the report that was released today. I think it's a step in the right direction. Out of 144 investigations, they were only able to debunk one.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I mean, that's pretty good. But I want to know what reports they were looking at. I want to see the videos. I want to see the data. I want to see the information. I guess we just need to stay tuned. Right? Hi, Ryan. This is Paul Blake Smith.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Over the past few months, I've been working on a sequel to my book, President Eisenhower's Close Encounters, and people advised me that I could build it all up to the big government revelations that are coming June 25th. And I knew better not to do that. I had no faith in the government suddenly unleashing our juiciest secrets after 80 years of storing them up just because Congress said pretty pleased. And sure enough, they'd given up the basic routine where they, golly, they don't know what's going on. So it's what I expected, and I doubt if we'll get much further than this, I guess some would say this is a start, a first step, but I'm skeptical of that.
Starting point is 00:29:02 So we'll keep our eyes and ears sealed and see what happens from here. 144 cases. One solved. People should look at this UAP task force report. is monumental. We have been told science cannot currently explain the things that people are seen in our skies. And not just people, but first-hand military aviators, there were 80 cases with multiple sensors. We're not talking about optical illusions anymore. We never really were. But this puts a nice full stop there. The letter from the Secretary of Defense is asking to essentially
Starting point is 00:29:43 formalize a process, which is everything that we have always wanted with this. Whether people believe that these are weird enemy drones or whether they're private industry or whether they're UFO. The point is, we are now going to have people looking at this all the time. We're going to have proper data flow for this all the time. We might even have sites set up where the military aren't that monitors for a baseline of UAP activity. If you've been paying attention for the last three years, some of these things will be familiar to you. But for people outside of our community,
Starting point is 00:30:21 this is nothing short of profound. This report may not be what some people want, but it is truly what we need right now. Greetings, Ryan. This is Christopher Harold Wells from the Band of the Evolutionaries, and I hope all you are doing great. I was asked to give my thoughts on the current disclosure. craft that have been seeing in our skies that
Starting point is 00:30:47 the government is trying to figure out a way to spin that to us so we can easily digest it. Kudos to them. Kind of. It's one of these things that I know quite a few people that have seen things in the sky and I'm not necessarily saying they're all alien craft, but they are alien to us, as in their technology seems a bit advanced. and the government's play on it, I believe, is they had to say something because too many people were seeing this and they had to come up with something to tell people.
Starting point is 00:31:25 But I really think a full disclosure would be a bit tricky because you also have to consider the people that are religious and they're faith-based and their belief. and if you go tell a bunch of people that the reality they thought they lived in for years was different and that there were other planets out there and other people, depending on how open-minded one is, it might be a very, very difficult fact to accept. So I can understand while there's a bit of reluctancy on just having the information dump and going, here it is, here's everything, I think it would scare a lot of people. Me and myself, I consider myself a bit more open-minded. And ever since I was a kid and I had an ant farm, I'd look at the ant farm and go,
Starting point is 00:32:20 I wonder if someone is looking at us like we're looking at this ant farm, which I think is the truth. There's so many bits of evidence from landing sites that are lined up with constellations and things on this planet and things are finding on Mars. It's just mankind's vanity to think that we are the only ones here. And it's very unfortunate because I'm sure we could learn a lot from people and beings from other places. And evidently, they must be peaceful as we haven't been wiped out yet. So those are my thoughts. And feel free to check out the latest Neverlutionary's self-debut CD.
Starting point is 00:33:10 music on polychromatic records. I'd like to thank Ryan and something in disguise for having me on. Take care and keep believing. The truth is out there. Hey, Ryan, Ron Slotnick here. Yeah, similar to a lot of people, today's UAP Cast Force report was certainly not the hidden gem we were all hoping for, but it is what we expected.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Unfortunately, as always, the government is in that repeated cycle of not releasing the information that we all know should be released and trying to suggest that it is something else and basically trying to keep it more docile than it really is to avoid causing any concerns or panics. That's my thoughts. Hey everybody. James from engaging the phenomenon here. Just with some initial thoughts on the UAP Task Force report.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Now, I know some people may have had a knee-jerk reaction to the report, and I can understand. I actually thought myself there would have been a little more information in it, and actually it's more of an assessment, and the actual report, which is 70-plus pages, was given in a classified briefing. So that's something we have to take into consideration that what we saw was a basic assessment, and that there is the majority of the report, which is 70 plus pages, was a classified briefing. And people had reported that there were videos shown during that briefing as well. So definitely something to consider. I also think that we are going to see possibly some leaks,
Starting point is 00:35:01 or at least we're going to hear people report on some of the contents of that classified briefing at the very least. we also have to consider and ask questions and keep the pressure on. So, you know, how come there were no mention of nuclear facilities or any involvement with UFOs tampering with nukes, which is a tremendous issue, especially if you're taking the threat and national security angle, I think that would be a primary subject to discuss. So there's that But, you know, people like Christopher Mellon and Ryan Graves and Tim McMillan, they seem to be optimistic about the report in that, you know, they're highlighting basically that this is a step forward.
Starting point is 00:35:52 And the language written in there is basically saying, you know, UAP is a serious matter that requires further science. scientific investigation. And I think the memorandum that came afterwards from the Undersecretary of Defense was a huge deal. You know, it's requesting, number one, that there be a body to investigate this. And also that all sightings be reported within two weeks of the incidents. Again, it is, I think, a step forward. I know people are impatient, but we got to go.
Starting point is 00:36:35 with what we got keep the pressure on and be optimistic all right take care guys hello Ryan this is Graham Rendell from UAP Media UK I've had time overnight to digest the UAP task force report that was released yesterday and I'm actually very happy with it just to set my position out here I have no clear idea of what you AP represent and I'm not firmly attached to any particular explanations such as alien multiterrestials or time travellers etc. I'm simply in search of the truth wherever that takes me. It's okay to say that I don't know what you AP are.
Starting point is 00:37:15 That's what the report essentially says as well and that's why I'm pleased with it. Of course it would have been wonderful if some of the cases have been explained further or more data had been issued or there were more videos and images. However we were never going to get that in a report of this nature. No doubt if such information exists then it's in the information. then it's in the classified section, and that would be expected given the nature of just how such sensor data is obtained. My takeaway from the report is the recommendation that more resources should be allocated to this issue and from a wider cross-section of the US military and intelligence apparatus.
Starting point is 00:37:53 The application of sophisticated artificial intelligence and machine learning systems to investigate future cases is also welcomed, as is the Air Force's involvement in UAP data collection. It would be interesting to learn just what information came out of their particular pilot collection program. I understand why some people are disappointed in the lack of information, imagery and announcements in the report, but frankly I don't think we're ever going to receive that, especially in the unclassified section. Don't forget that there were rumors of a lack of resources, time and access to other agencies. So it
Starting point is 00:38:32 It was inevitable that the report would not have much of substance, at least in terms of positive analysis. That will involve much more time and effort across a wide range of military and governmental agencies, using a range of science platforms, some of which we may not be aware of at this time. In addition, the report suggests that in some cases, more advanced scientific processes may be required to understand and analyze information already collected on particular UAP cases. such statements would not be made if pilots and other military personnel were simply seeing balloons or seagulls. To sum up, the report is making it very clear that a lack of data and analysis capabilities hindering their attempts to explain the UAP issue. Whilst the report mentions the possibility of U.S. tech and foreign adversaries, it's not suggesting that UAP definitely fall into these categories, as some to the report mentions,
Starting point is 00:39:32 commentators have suggested. From our point of view, that and the recommendation for more resources to investigate UAP further and more effectively is really encouraging. I look forward to the recommendations and the task forces report being enacted. Thanks Ryan for giving me the opportunity to discuss the report's findings. Hi this is Michael Huntington The military's UAP Task Force 9-page preliminary report, largely orchestrated or promoted by UFO media personalities, echoes the message that has been sent by similar governmental disclosures over the past three quarters of a century,
Starting point is 00:40:18 that the military acknowledges that some unknown aerial anomalies exist, and that people sometimes see unidentified things. and that some few are interesting enough, at least for study, due to safety and security concerns involved. I.e., maybe there are enemy drones flying around or balloons floating around that can cause accidents. And, of course, quite possibly, there are benefits for science, for discovering some unknown scientific knowledge.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And as government does, money should be spent on looking into this somewhere preferably scientifically that's pretty much it on the whole it's not really revelatory this disclosure has largely been a disclosure
Starting point is 00:41:13 of what is already known that not everything is known is it really disclosure if we all already know this maybe kind of but this is certainly not been the sort of messianic day
Starting point is 00:41:30 of disclosure or the undeniable confirmation event often visioned or fantasized by disclosurist and conspiracy theorist believers in recent years and decades. You know, a science
Starting point is 00:41:45 fiction movie brought to life replete with flying saucer landings on the White House lawn or the Secretary of Defense or Vice President providing a live stream tour of Area 51's Secret S4 underground saucer base or maybe hangar 18 alien body freezing chambers with whistleblower Bob Lazar leading the way no big D disclosure is not here it
Starting point is 00:42:15 didn't happen at least not today it is part of UFO history though just as all UFO history is part of UFO history hype and exploitation concerns aside, because you do know what's coming. There is a great opportunity now for the serious UFO research community to promote the subject and educate people from all backgrounds about the merits of scientifically studying aerial anomalies, and to work to create some strategies for developing and producing the kind of science that is needed to produce evidence. evidence which is desperately needed to get us closer to the truths behind the anomalies.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Truths which can potentially change our paradigms of knowledge. Hopefully we can move towards that in the coming years. I want to start off by congratulating everyone who assesses that at least some UFOs are beyond next generation technology of unknown origin. if through researching and analyzing all of the information available out there on UFOs, this is the conclusion that you've come to, then unquestionably, this 180-day preliminary UFO report is a step in the right direction. To just give one quick example, there is a segment in there that conveys that some UAP appear to maneuver in ways that are not easily explainable,
Starting point is 00:43:57 and without discernible means of propulsion. That is not a trivial statement, and it's even more significant when you consider the vast array of sensor collecting mechanisms the most well-funded military in the world has at their disposal. They should be able to easily detect the propulsion on these UAP, from what I understand, at least. But moving beyond that, to me, this report really represents accountability. For the longest time, the U.S. government really wasn't forced to talk about UFOs, report on UFOs. And if you're silent about something and you're not forced to go on the record, then you're not really backed into a corner, are you? You're just silent.
Starting point is 00:44:51 No accountability whatsoever. But that certainly changed on December 16th. 2017 with the New York Times article revealing atyp. And so with the release of this preliminary 180-day UFO report and with talk about public UFO hearings, which on the day, I believe, of the release of this report, Representative Andre Carson stated, again, that he wants there to be public UFO hearings. This all seems to be moving in the direction of greater and greater accountability, something that I think is so necessary. Because if there is a cover-up or truth embargo, as many of us believe, it's much harder to get away with it when there's accountability as opposed to just remaining silent about the very subject some of us believe is being covered up.
Starting point is 00:45:50 So in this current environment, I really assess that if there is a cover-up, and I could be wrong, maybe there's not, maybe my assessment's wrong, which is totally possible. But if there is a cover-up, the odds that it can persist much longer seems very low to me because it only really could flourish in an environment where the stigma was at its zenith and the government wasn't being forced to discuss it. So there's clearly limitations to what you can keep from the public when all of a sudden the public is talking about it on a regular basis. And journalists are covering it on a regular basis. And members of our government, such as our members of Congress, are discussing it on a regular basis. How can you continue to play stupid and act as if you don't know anything in that. environment, I don't think it's a plausible scenario. So I'm very optimistic. And this 180-day report we received today is a manifestation of accountability. And that accountability is not going away.
Starting point is 00:47:06 In fact, I think it's only going to increase. And at some point, it's going to force the United States government to be more explicit on what they know about UFOs. And I'm looking forward to that day. So congratulations, everybody. It looks like increased transparency on a subject that we all find very important is starting to manifest in amazing ways. Upward and onward. Hi, Ryan. Hope you well, mate. My name's Frank from Manchester in the UK and I run a little podcast called UFO Thinker.
Starting point is 00:47:37 So after reading the UAP Task Force report, I personally think it's actually quite a big win. I understand that, you know, some people are a bit frustrated would have liked to send a bit more of an indebted. depth report and that kind of thing. And don't get me wrong, I would have liked to sing a bit more than nine pages as well and maybe a few new case studies and things like that. But the fact is this was always going to be a first step. And I think as first steps go, it's actually not bad. I mean, the report recommends significant further investigation and further funding.
Starting point is 00:48:11 That in itself, I think, is quite a big win. They're not just brushed it under the carpet. They've actually took it seriously and said, you know what, We need to plow a lot more energy into this. So the thing is, if that actually happens and they actually do fund it further and allocate more staff to it, think about what the next report could contain, because that's when things are going to start to get really interesting. As I've heard a few people say, it's a marathon, not a sprint. So we're just got to be in it for the long haul and see how things pan out over the coming months. So a big fan of the podcast, mate, so keep up the good work.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Bye for now. my friend, Kevin Hale here, co-hosts of Universal Secrets, giving you my quick take on the UAP report that dropped on Friday, June 25th, 2021. I'll say the date again, June 25th, 2021. This date will go down in history as a historic moment in uphology. A new chapter, if you will. Were we surprised with the report itself? No. Most felt that the information we got today was spot on on how we thought this day was going to play out. How I take it is that it's being talked about.
Starting point is 00:49:31 This is a reboot in Uphology, whatever.0. We're at a new level. We're on a different playing field. So as an enthusiast, I'm excited on where we are right now. I'm excited what's potentially going to happen from here. On our show, I throw out three questions. The three greatest questions in our lifetime. Is there a God?
Starting point is 00:49:58 What happens when we die? And are we alone in the universe? I still believe in my heart of hearts, the alone in the universe is going to get answered in our lifetime. I'm going to live to see that. Hear it. That's my thinking. I'm going to stay by it.
Starting point is 00:50:15 It's on mainstream media. The story, the topic is being played and being discussed on the major networks without, as much as you and I love the X-Files and Fox Mulder, the X-Files theme music is not in the background. So we're making progress. We're going somewhere that we've never been before. That's exciting. That's fun. And for us podcasters, it makes for great conversation. Peace down, my brother.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Hey, Ryan Allen from Power Noble Now. Thanks for allowing me to put my two cents in. So my takeaway from this report is with rosy tinted glasses. I know a lot of people are not entirely happy with it. I am one that is very happy with it. Right out of the report, page three, quote, consistent consolidation of reports from across the federal government and standardized reporting, increased collection and analysis.
Starting point is 00:51:15 and a streamlined process of screening. All such reports against a broad range of relevant USG data will allow for a more sophisticated analysis of a UAP that is likely to deepen our understanding. And earlier in the report, they mentioned all the agencies that will be sharing data, including the DIA, FBI, NRO, NGA, NSA, Air Force, Army, Navy, Navy, O&I, DARPA, FAA, and so on. So I think that what they're doing here is they're laying the groundwork to actually do more in-depth study.
Starting point is 00:51:53 And they're not brushing this aside. They're not half-closing the door. They're not closing the door. My impression is they're opening the door even wider. Now, I wanted more details on specific reports, but it sounds like their idea of what a UAP is based on the data that they have obtained. running checks on software for radar and the eyewitness accounts and observations, that indeed UAP is unexplainable. And that's a good place to start.
Starting point is 00:52:26 So those are my quick thoughts. Thanks for all the good work you do on Somewhere in the Skies. And live in the mystery, everyone. Hey, Ryan, rather be quitting here. The report wasn't what I expected, and I'm disappointed there isn't more data, any data. But it made clear that this is not the end of the discussion. They're digging into historical data and working to better capture data from current encounters. We know there are at least 18 interesting cases categorized as other.
Starting point is 00:52:57 So they continue to dig, and so should we. I'm pretty sure the Black Vault is filing FOIAs as we speak. I'm really looking forward to learning more. Hey, Ryan. It's Josh Shaw. About the report, you know, I'm probably, as I said, not going to cover two. much that a lot of other people haven't already observed, but just really briefly, I was happy with it. But then again, I'd set my expectations really low.
Starting point is 00:53:26 So what I was really looking for was for them to say, yes, these things are real. We've detected them on all sorts of different sensors. They're not just seagulls. And two come out and if they think it's one of our adversaries, tell us if they have no evidence of that, tell us that. Because the most interesting answer is, well, if it's not ours and it's not Russia's and it's not Chinese, then, you know, whose is it? Kind of running out of suspects.
Starting point is 00:53:57 And we got that out of the report. And I think there was more than that. I think they're making a legitimate request for funding to make this a permanent operation. Hopefully there will be semi-annual or annual reports out of them as more information develops. The only thing that's left is I would like to find out if the Senate Intelligence Committee or the Armed Forces Committee who got the full report with all the other stuff in it, if any of them are willing to push back a little bit and say, hey, is there any of this stuff that could be declassified or at least tell us why is it classified? So that's really about it. I mean, like I said, I was happy with it.
Starting point is 00:54:38 I've written a couple articles. anybody wants to go find them. But the public report is, I think, what it was always going to be. Kind of slim meets the minimum requirements that the Senate asked for last December. And if they did go and give a lot of other juicier stuff to Congress, well, then Congress probably needs to know about that. And if we get to find out some of it later, great. But if not, at least we know they're working on it.
Starting point is 00:55:02 So thanks for having me on. Take care. This is Joe Mergia, aka UFO Joe. and yesterday when I first started reading the 180-day report, I first thought this is really short, nine pages. But we had heard from various people that it was going to be anywhere from four to six to seven pages. So not a total shock, but it's still reality hit us in the face when we saw that. And then a friend of mine who's worked in the world of intelligence for,
Starting point is 00:55:39 many decades said, listen, it's a preliminary assessment. Read it and then think about it like that. So, okay, so I did. And right off the bat, you know, it starts out with cases going back to 2004 and the Tick-Tac. And people were upset that we didn't go back to 1947 and Roswell or the Trinity case in 1945 that Jacques Valet and Paula Harris have worked on and investigated. but it seems like, you know, they came up with 144 incidents reports, and 180 days was barely long enough for them to collect data on those cases.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Of course, we don't know what's in the classified version. But then we heard Luis Alizando say, he had colleagues in the Pentagon who had UFO data, and they were never asked for it. And he said that like a month or so ago. So were they ever asked for it for this report? And if they weren't, you know, it makes you wonder how hard, did the people who put this report together try to get all of the data within our government agencies? As I read the report, right off the bat, they said some UAP could be attributed to censor anomalies.
Starting point is 00:56:53 And I was like, no, this is shades of Seth Shostack from SETI trying to tell us that the Navy folks were just confused, and it was glitches in the radar and a reflection off the windshield. So, you know, right away, I'm like, uh-oh, here we go. but then they moved on to say there's not enough data to know the nature and intent of UAP well okay maybe for some of these folks but I believe
Starting point is 00:57:18 there's more than enough data I think we all think that there are people within our government that have a really good idea of what we're dealing with maybe not intent but I think they have a good idea of various craft maybe bodies you know if you believe
Starting point is 00:57:34 that crash retrievals have occurred which I do So, and that would be located in, you know, a special access program, and I don't think most of the people involved in this report would have access to those programs. Maybe some do, but even if they did, it's not going to get into, you know, the unclassified version of the report. Maybe in the classified version? Probably not. They probably didn't go into crash retrievals, hopefully in the future. So the report goes on that most of these reports, these objects, they represent physical objects, captured on sensors, multiple sensors including radar and Fleer, and of the 144 reports, 80 involved multiple sensors.
Starting point is 00:58:23 So that's good. It tells you they're physical objects, and we have evidence for that. That does away with the glitch and the radar claims by some people. you know. The next thing says a limited number of incidents. UAP reportedly appear to exhibit
Starting point is 00:58:43 unusual flight characteristics. These observations could be the result of sensor errors, spoofing, or observer misperception, and require additional rigorous analysis. You know, as soon as I see spoofing,
Starting point is 00:58:57 I think Tyler Rogaway believes some of this is spoofing and drones. So, I'm I'm sure his eyes lit up when he saw that. But then it says most reports described UAP interrupting pre-planned training or other military activity. 11 incidents involved a near-miss with a UAP.
Starting point is 00:59:18 That alone that we have near misses with these objects. And they're flying with impunity in restricted military airspace. That alone, you would think, on a safety and just a safety issue alone, you would think they'd want to get to the bottom of this. And then national security, obviously, who the hell's flying in our military airspace? We don't know who they are. So, yeah, Rubio has hit on that many times.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Just the very basics of that, this should be a big deal. Unfortunately, as the report says, stigma is still a big problem when it comes to the folks in the military and intelligence community reporting and talking about these encounters, and that really needs to stop. Hopefully, we're getting close to that not being the case, people need to be able to talk about what they see, no matter what this turns out
Starting point is 01:00:07 to be. They say that in only 18 incidents did observers report unusual UAP movements. Is that true? I mean, is that low? 18 out of 144? That's a question for Lou. How many of the cases he investigated in atyp? Did he see these kind of movements? Is it like a small percentage? I would love to know that. But those are the cases we obviously need to focus on. Then they mentioned that these objects are pulling off something called signature management. And I have a long explanation for it, which it'll be in a report I'll have in my blog by my Intel friend. He's going to write an article. Basically, these objects are trying to remain hidden, cloaked, not give us any information about them, whatever they're doing.
Starting point is 01:00:52 So obviously they don't want us to know about them or see them. And we can debate forever why that's the case, you know, something nefarious, something they're just trying not, you know, prime directive, not trying to make themselves obvious. I don't know. But then there's cases on the West Coast where if those objects in the Jeremy Corbell videos that he released, if those objects are UAP, you know, they obviously want to be seen. So that's a little contradictory. We currently lack data to indicate any UAP are part of a foreign collection program or indicative of a major technological advancement by a potential adversary. This is huge.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Tyler Rogoey, who has done major work and, you know, exceptional work on this subject, you know, talking about possible foreign adversaries collecting information on us, and maybe the East Coast events are drones related to drone programs or spoofing. This report says in these 144 reports, no evidence of that, no evidence. You know, people will say, well, if they did have evidence, they would lie. They wouldn't tell us. But I had somebody who works in Intel, another source saying,
Starting point is 01:02:04 if it was Russia or China, we would tell you. And like I said, people won't believe that, but that's what it says. So they also said of these reports, they found no evidence. These were government technology. No evidence. That goes against the New York Times sources who said the vast majority of these cases, there was no evidence of government tech. So I also, I actually do think that we do have some amazing tech.
Starting point is 01:02:28 and that's a debate for another time, and a lot of people disagree with me on that, but I don't know. I just said it's an opinion that we may have some of this amazing tech. And if you read my Wilson Davis blog with Will Miller, he's one of the people who believes this. A guy's Leslie Keen called him a true insider. Amazing guy.
Starting point is 01:02:49 A lot of people don't know about him. So another great takeaway that I did not know, the United States Air Force, who has gotten a lot of flack, you know, Project Blue Book, and they've been nowhere to be found. You know, we've heard them mention maybe some pilots or giving some testimony, Air Force pilots.
Starting point is 01:03:04 But then in the report, it says the United States Air Force began a six-month pilot program in November 2020 to collect in the most likely areas to encounter UAP and is evaluating how to normalize future collection, reporting, and analysis across the entire Air Force. That's exciting. We need the Air Force data. We'd love to see Air Force Fleer, any Fleer, any data is good. So to see them becoming involved is important. A side note, when Danny Sheen went to Washington, D.C. with L. Al-Alzando, he said that, you know, along with the government lawyers who were at the meeting, they brought a colonel from the Air Force.
Starting point is 01:03:42 And a lot of people have overlooked that. I don't know what that means. Why would a colonel in the Air Force be at an, you know, an IG meeting where Lou is trying to figure out why these people are lying about him? So keep that in mind. Hopefully we'll find out more. more about that. Now we get to the other bin as possible, you know, the one bin we all cared about. What are these UAP?
Starting point is 01:04:05 And they called it other. They said, the reason we can't identify these is because of limited data or challenges to collection processing or analysis. And we may require additional scientific knowledge to successfully collect or analyze and characterize some of them. We need additional scientific knowledge. So this may be something beyond our current understanding or our ability to comprehend
Starting point is 01:04:36 or willingness to even accept, you know, like Lewis said, this could be something natural to this planet that we're just now being able to detect, which would be something John Keel called ultra-terrestrial, something that shares the planet with us. So they need additional scientific knowledge. Great.
Starting point is 01:04:54 let's get this data into the hands of the most qualified scientists in the world. Get them read in. Get them read in. Let's have a public program and let them share as much as they can on what they find. And to close, we have Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby on the UAP assessment. He said, Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks today directed the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security to develop a plan to formalize. the mission currently performed by the UAP task force. In other words, it looks like they're going to make a permanent office, a permanent program. This is what we want, not just a temporary task force. So that's exciting.
Starting point is 01:05:37 That's good news. Obviously, this is not everything we wanted, not even close. But for the general public, hopefully and the media, they focus on the fact that they have not ruled out ET. They have not ruled out ultra-terrestrial. They have not ruled out interdimensional. They have not ruled out any of that. It's still on the table. And I know, you know, Danny Sheehan said, Eric Davis briefed Marco Rubio and told him that the
Starting point is 01:06:01 ONI and the UAP task force believe some of these objects are off-world vehicles. That's not in this report. That should be in this report. I know that information is 100% accurate. So Rubio and Warner still saying, you know, very hesitant to what they're saying. I don't know if they're afraid to open that door because once they open the door and say, yes, we believe some of these are off-world and just changes everything. So I think they're really scared right now. Where we go from here? I don't know. I don't know. I think things may slow down.
Starting point is 01:06:34 We'll have ebbs and flows, up and sundowns. But, you know, in a month or so, we get Ross Colthart's book that's coming out in plain sight. Look for it. It's, you know, his documentary is excellent. The book is different. It's going to be more in depth. And if you want to follow me, you know, UFO dot net and on Twitter I'm at at the UFO Joe. Thanks for listening and I look forward to what comes next. Thanks to Ryan for asking me to do this. 180 days. If you're anything like me, you've been waiting for this day for at least 180 days. Now it's here and was it all worth the wait? What's up everyone? This is John Greenwald Jr., founder and creator of the blackfault.com. And that's right, the UFO
Starting point is 01:07:22 or UAP or whatever you want to call them report is here. But one thing that I will say is that this is not the end, right? This is not, regardless of this being the letdown that it might be to you or maybe it's encouraging to you, maybe this is more than you thought. It doesn't matter what you think. This is far from the end. Not only for me on a personal level, I've been doing this for 25 years pursuing UFO, UAP information with the government, so I'm not going to stop now. But I hope it motivates all of you as well.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Because even though this report, I can almost bet for all of you, didn't have everything that you wanted in it, at least this shows us that there is movement, that the UAP topic is being taken seriously, that it is being acknowledged, that it is being essentially looked at as a potential threat. And as much as some of you do not like that word. That will pave the way for them, meaning the Senate, to look at this that is not exciting or extraordinary by itself, but that is the root. Because once additional funding, albeit maybe a small amount, that additional funding goes in and that expansion of the data happens. And they expanded to commercial aviation pilots. They expanded to just the Joe Shmos of the world that are seeing UFOs to essentially then really tackle this from a scientific standpoint. That is what we should all praise. I'm mad too. We didn't get what we really truly wanted.
Starting point is 01:09:02 But if this is the route to potentially a bigger program that will then pave that way for a bigger data set for them to call on, hopefully we the people will have. access to that, but at least those are baby steps forward. Forward to where? I'm on the journey with you because I have no idea. You're great at protecting your data, but lots of places could still expose you to identity theft. I thought it was safe. If that happens, LifeLock gives you a U.S.-based restoration agent who will stick by your side from start to finish. Phone calls, filing documentation, preparing insurance claims, your agent handles it all. In fact, we're so confident, is guaranteed. Pour your money back. Isn't it nice to have someone like that on your side?
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