Somewhere in the Skies - Call for Disclosure on Capitol Hill (w/ David Grusch, James Fox, Leslie Kean, and Congress Members)

Episode Date: June 10, 2026

The push for UAP transparency takes center stage in Washington, D.C. In this special livestream replay, we bring you the full UAP Transparency event held on June 9, 2026, on the steps of the U.S. Capi...tol, followed by our live post-event analysis. Hosted by James Fox and Leslie Kean, the event featured former intelligence officer and UAP whistleblower David Grusch alongside Representatives Eric Burlison, Jared Moskowitz, Anna Paulina Luna, and Tim Burchett, calling for the release of classified UFO/UAP records and greater government transparency. After the event, we break down the biggest moments, key statements, and what this bipartisan push could mean for the future of UFO disclosure, congressional oversight, and public access to UAP information. Join us at ANOMACON on September 12th: http://www.anomacon.com Send us a voicemail: https://www.speakpipe.com/SomewhereSkiesPod Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/somewhereskies ByMeACoffee: http://www.buymeacoffee.com/UFxzyzHOaQ Substack: https://ryansprague.substack.com/ All socials and books: https://linktr.ee/somewhereskiespod Follow Suzanne on X: https://x.com/csuzannelanders Email: ryan.sprague51@gmail.com Opening theme song by Septembryo Closing song by Per Kiilstofte Copyright © 2026 Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved. This content constitutes transformative work and is used under the principles of fair use for purposes including, but not limited to, criticism, commentary, satire, news reporting, teaching, education, and research. #Disclosure #DisclosureDay #UFOs #UFODisclosure #UAP #Congress #CapitolHill #DavidGrusch #LeslieKean Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:00 very impromptu tonight. We're going to be streaming the Washington D.C. Capitol Steps UAP transparency event happening in just under apparently 15 minutes. There in Washington with David Grush, representatives Eric Berlinson, Anna Paulina Luna, Tim Burchett, who else they got? Jared Moskowitz will be there as well. It's being hosted by James Fox and Leslie Kane, and this will be taking place outside of the Capitol. And yeah, a lot of different people are streaming this tonight. We're all kind of just waiting to see when News Nation will begin their broadcast
Starting point is 00:03:39 and we will follow suit after that. So thank you. Thank you for making somewhere in the skies your home to watch this tonight. Truly do appreciate that. But yeah, this should be interesting. None of us really know what is going to be said at this thing. If anything new is going to come forward by David Grush and the likes. But it should be interesting nonetheless.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Hello to Greg. Hello to UFO fly saucers. Master number is here. Tanya, our YouTube member and Patreon subscriber, welcome, welcome. Donnie falls. It's not a hearing, Donnie. It's going to be like a press event, kind of a call to action that David Grush has kind of set up here where he is supposedly going to be sharing some stuff about all these claims that he's made in the past about biologics and non-humans and legacy UAP programs. and whatnot. And there is a rumor. There is a rumor. I got my pen. I'm ready to take notes tonight. There's a rumor that Chuck Schumer might show up to. So that's interesting for sure. Cautiously optimistic. David Unger says, agree. Agree. Hello to Steve. Hello to Goldsmith. Hello. Welcome, guys. Thanks for being here, guys. Like I said, we're just waiting for the official word by News Nation. If not, we do have a backup for that as well, another new station that will be broadcasting. So what we're going to do is simulcast that,
Starting point is 00:05:05 get you guys involved in the live chat. We'll put up your comments and questions. And then after tonight's official event at the Capitol, I will be doing a breakdown of it and kind of a review with Suzanne, our moderator and administrator. She will be joining us later on. She'll be in the chat during the DC event too. So she'll be here shortly. But yeah, we will do a debrief and breakdown after the event, so stick around for that, and we will get you guys more involved with that as well. We probably won't interrupt or be on screen much for the actual event
Starting point is 00:05:41 because we want you guys to kind of experience that as it is. But yeah, I'm just checking that my microphone's on. Yep, we're good. We're good. Hello to Beanie. Hello to Darren. Welcome, guys. I was going to go, but I have meetings. Ah, bummer.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Bummer. Hello to tears. Sorry, Tsar of the Star. Love it. Monster Hunter is here. No way Grush Oversteps Trump Stoes. I don't know, man. These guys are getting sick of it. You know, kind of the runaround and then, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:11 what aliens.gov turned out to be. Everyone was pissed about that. The war.gov drops have been less than interesting. So we'll see. We'll see. I think a lot of these guys are tired. In fact, I'm going to play a little warm-up video for you guys. We've got a little bit of Ross Colthart.
Starting point is 00:06:29 little bit of Jeremy Corbell to kind of get us activated for what we're going to see today. So let me go ahead and play that for you guys right here. And don't go anywhere because as soon as this thing starts and we get going, I will be sure to broadcast the actual event. So again, thank you for being here. And check this video out. So let's start with the upcoming call to action on the steps of the Capitol. It's in a few days.
Starting point is 00:06:56 What do you think will come out of it? It's a drawing of a line in the sand. Ultimately, President Trump really hasn't delivered yet on his promise for full transparency on the UAP files. What we're seeing most of all is a frustration in Congress of a very genuine intention by a well-committed caucus on both sides of the House, the UAP caucus. They're determined to get through laws called UAP disclosure laws that would make it much easier for whistleblowers to feel comfortable about coming forward without retaliation.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And the problem that we have at the moment is the president's promising transparency, but he's really not delivering. Releasing some interesting but not that promising videos from inside the Pentagon in the intelligence community isn't really going to help when we know from our own sources there are so many more videos, images and indeed documents and whistleblowers that are only too willing to be. brought out into the public light if that can be made possible.
Starting point is 00:08:00 We talked about David Grush a minute ago. You know him very well. His story of the UFO, crash retrieval and, of course, reverse engineering programming within the U.S. government. Is he the one that can demand and make full declassification happen? David's one of multiple whistleblowers. He's the prominent one because he's known publicly. But I can tell you there are many others behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:08:25 There are people wanting to come forward who don't feel safe about coming forward. And so David's commendably showing leadership this coming Tuesday, basically saying it's time for the government to put its money where its mouth is and back its promises with good, hard legislation. This has bipartisan support and it should be supported by the president and the White House to make sure it has real effect. Last weekend, we had Congressman Tim Burchett. He joined News Nation Prime.
Starting point is 00:08:53 He claimed that some are interfering with the president's ability to disclose all the information, especially when we ask for transparency. Here's what he said to us. I want your reaction on the other side, Ross. The people in these alphabet agencies are blocking the president of the United States. As power is control, I think there could be some economic incentives to it. They're going to take this high road and say it's going to disrupt religion and all this other stuff. I just don't buy that as a Christian. That doesn't affect me one bit. I just think they need to disclose everything. And quit telling us they don't exist when they're spending tens of millions of dollars
Starting point is 00:09:27 on programs that obviously studying them. What agencies is he talking about? What do you make of these comments, Ross? Do you agree? I completely agree with Congressman Tim Burchett. He's right on the money. Primarily, it's the CIA. The CIA has acted over the years very much as a gatekeeper on this story.
Starting point is 00:09:48 There's been an office inside the CIA called the Office of, global access and they've been involved in what we know are retrieval and reverse engineering programs funded allegedly illegally by diverting program monies from other programs. And so Congress hasn't been told about this. It hasn't been kept transparent. And Tim Burchett's completely right. There is obfuscation, obstruction by the CIA and people in the Defense Department and other sections of the intelligence community. And President Trump needs to hold their feet to the fire. There's a good intention from the White House at the moment. They're showing a determination to get to the truth of this matter.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I'm assured the president is committed to transparency. And what Tuesday is all about is essentially ensuring that he understands how many Americans and how many people around the world care passionately about this subject and are looking for leadership from him. So if people have watched Michael Ozzy's movie Sleeping Dog, then they have an idea of what it is that 100 journalists now have. If they don't come out with the next drop having to do with reverse engineering, non-human intelligence craft, and if they don't address or begin to address biologics, then they saw in Sleeping Dog the file systems.
Starting point is 00:11:11 That's not just in my hands anymore. That's not just in George Knapp's hands. They have promised transparency on what they know on UAP. David Grush went up in front of Congress with his hand to the country, to the globe, and to whatever he believes in. And he told the truth. And he told you not just UFOs are real, that we have been reverse engineering them, that we've been trying to for decades,
Starting point is 00:11:43 and that there were pilots, biologics, he said, non-human intelligent beings. Now, if that's true, and if you believe him, our government in parts has that information, it is time to tell the American public the truth. The movie Sleeping Dog was literally born from the resistance to the truth. It was born because your government, our government, many other governments such as the Five Eyes Alliance has chosen silence over transparency that is going to end. But the problem is how you got to get ahead of it. The White House has to get ahead of it.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Our president can order the release of UAP files, but he needs to hold the CIA and other organizations that have the data information and knowledge accountable. It's not good enough to say it. You have to hold them accountable because you don't want to be a president that has lied to just like Clinton was. So that's what's up. That's the score. That's the truth. Sleeping dog, you see in there what is possible.
Starting point is 00:13:05 But it's up to them because of you to make it happen. It looks like they're getting set up right now. I'm watching a feed right now. setting up the microphones. They're getting this thing ready. I can hear the chatter in the background. I hope they know their mics are on. That'd be pretty funny if we heard some interesting stuff. So yeah, they're getting ready for the event, prepping for that. But like you saw in that news clip and you saw it with Jeremy Corbell, we're expecting some stuff to happen today. David Grush is supposed to be hopefully kind of getting us ready for some sort of big disclosure. We're on
Starting point is 00:13:45 the corner. Disclosure Day. Premiers here in the United Kingdom, where I am tomorrow. It premieres in the U.S. on the 12th. And we got this UAP transparency event happening today. We've got a bunch of documentaries coming out. So, I mean, the time is right and the time is now to try to call for UAP transparency. We've been doing it for decades. But things seem to be at kind of a fever pitch right now when it comes to a official acknowledgement of UFOs and legacy UFO programs and possible disclosure. Now, you guys know me. I'm kind of more of a witness and experiencer kind of person.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I think disclosure happens person by person who has a UFO experience. But for a lot of people out there, probably the majority of people, they want to hear it from their own governments. And recently, we've had two drops by whitehouse.gov, you know, through their program called Pursue, where they're releasing a bunch of UFO videos and files and stuff like that. That's great. But as we've covered here on the channel, we were less than, I guess, impressed and or satisfied with a lot of what those releases and drops have been. So this is kind of people in the know coming forward and saying there's much more out there and they're not sharing it with you guys and they have to.
Starting point is 00:15:04 So today we're supposed to be hearing from David Grush. We are going to hear from Timberchette, Anna Paulina Luna, Jared Moskowitz, Eric Moshavits, Eric Burlington, allegedly, possibly Chuck Schumer might be there as well, who's involved with the UAPDA Act and things like that. So who knows, who knows. Again, all of us are kind of going in blind. None of us know what to expect with this, how long it's going to be, what will be said, but we will be breaking it down after the event, Suzanne and I.
Starting point is 00:15:34 So say hello to her in the chat. She is here. She'll be running the chat while this thing is going on with you guys. We'll be checking in with you guys after. So we probably won't interrupt it all during the actual event. We'll let you watch it as is. But we will do kind of a breakdown and debrief afterwards. So get your notepads out.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I've got mine ready to go. I'm ready. Let's see it, Suzanne. She's down in my... Oh, she's got the yellow legal pad. Like a true attorney. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:16:03 But this is being done by the task force on the declassification of federal secrets. I can confirm that right now. I see the placard on the podium as they're setting up. So this will be the Federal Task Force that Anna Paulina Luna is the head of, basically. Let's get this thing going. Let's get this thing going. I'm going to share the screen. Just a moment here.
Starting point is 00:16:29 There's Leslie Kane. Okay. They're getting ready to start. Let me get it up on the screen for you, I guess. Good afternoon. Thank you all for attending this historic event. My name is James Fox. I've been investigating UFO cases, now referred to as UAP, across the globe for over 30 years.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And I've directed seven feature-length documentaries on the subject. In recent years, Congress has held multiple public hearings on UAP, which is a dramatic shift towards transparency. Thanks to many members of Congress, the issue is now being taken very seriously. We the people are finally hearing accounts in a credible setting, from firsthand U.S. military personnel about highly advanced unknown craft that fly rings around our front line fighter jets. With President Trump's unprecedented directive to release UAP files, we are seeing more and more of these type of craft captured on various government sensors, and I'm told this is just
Starting point is 00:17:33 the beginning. One of the aspects to the phenomenon that's spoken about with less frequency are close encounters of the third kind. Reporting by witnesses of entities of non-human sentient beings connected to the craft. Don't take it from me. Some of these reports come directly out of the United States Air Forces own files. In fact, the very scientist who coined the phrase close encounters of the third kind investigated cases for the United States Air Force from 1947 to 1969, Dr. J. Allen Heineck. According to Heinek, it was cases like those that the United States Air Force desperately tried to keep secret, because it's one thing to try and confuse the public with weather balloons and swamp gas,
Starting point is 00:18:21 and another entirely different when dealing with credible reports of non-human beings on the ground. I personally investigated one such case for over 16 years. The case occurred in Virginia, Brazil, in 1996, and involved in dozens of first-hand reports of UAP and direct contact with living intelligent non-human beings who, according to multiple Brazilian witnesses, were flown out of Brazil to the United States in January of 1996. Recently, the former Brazilian Ministry of Defense, Aldo Rebello, confirmed the incident occurred and stated if the U.S. disclosed information on this case,
Starting point is 00:19:08 then we in Brazil could do the same. Mr. President, I am respectfully requesting that you declassify and release all files related to this case and others like it. We the people have a right to know. Reality should not be classified. Thank you. Hi, everyone. Thank you for being here today. And I just want to say, especially for the members standing behind us, as you know, this Congress,
Starting point is 00:19:39 we are given permission to stand up the task force on declassification of federal secret. Many of our colleagues did not believe in this up until really the video started coming out and had it not been for the efforts of Representative Berluson, Birchett, Moskowitz, and the countless of other members who have backed us in this fight. You probably wouldn't see some of these files and videos that are coming out today, but it doesn't just stop here. For some time we've been pushing for there to be legislation, whether it be whistleblower protections or the UAP Disclosure Act, and it's been time and time again Stonewalled by various intelligence agencies and staff with the whistleblower protections, whether it's been, by various intelligence agencies and staff within the House of Representatives, which is why we are grateful to the administration and their effort, as well as Stephen Miller's office, in pursuing the truth, something that we all should deserve transparency on.
Starting point is 00:20:24 And so our next call to action will be that we are weaning with the White House. We are requesting that whistleblowers receive temporary immunity or permanent immunity and if they are able to divulge whether it is locations of craft and or advanced technologies. As you know, this is something that we are all wanting to know the truth on. And again, without your cooperation, we wouldn't have been where we are at today. And so thank you. I'd like to now introduce Representative Eric Burleson. Thank you all for being here today.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I want to first begin by thanking everyone that's here. And I want to thank my colleagues behind me, this task force. We could not do this without the incredible leadership of Representative Luna and my colleagues on the team. We also wouldn't be here today if it weren't for the brave men and women who have come forward as whistleblowers who have plowed that soil. We wouldn't be here without these individuals. And we also wouldn't be here celebrating the victories that we have weren't not for President Trump. We finally have a leader that the American people can trust to challenge institutions that have grown far too comfortable operating without accountability. For decades, the American people have been treated like children, told that our government secrets that they don't get to know.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Don't ask, don't expect answers, just trust the process. Well, the American people are done with that answer, and I'm done with that answer. Over the last three years, we have made more progress on this issue than at any point in modern history. We've held hearings. We've reviewed Russian and Brazilian records, including a formal FBI inquiry, into the 96 Varhina incident where witnesses alleged the Brazilian military captured non-human entities and craft and buried the truth. Today, Aldo Rebello, who was the Ministry of Defense at the time, came forward and admitted that this event was true. We've sent targeted inquiries into
Starting point is 00:22:31 MIT Lincoln Laboratories, MIDER, and every government agency that's been connected to UAP. We've worked with lawmakers across four continents. We've sought answers on cases like Matthew Sullivan, a would-be whistleblower whose tragic death deserves far more scrutiny than it has received. We've obtained video evidence, including the MQ-9 footage of a UAP incident off the coast of Yemen, delivered to my office through what can only be described as a Tom Clancy-style dead drop. someone felt that they had, now think about this, someone felt they had to secretly hand information to an elected official, a member of Congress. Why would anyone fear bringing information to Congress? They shouldn't. We are no longer asking hypothetical questions anymore. Congress is requesting specific records and videos.
Starting point is 00:23:23 These agencies and contractors know that we know that they exist and we're going to get them released. We continue to receive credible claims of recovered craft. and reverse engineering programs that may have operated for decades outside of any oversight. Those claims point to specific facilities, contractors, records, and people. Congress has a constitutional duty to follow them, and that duty does not vanish because someone stamped a document classified 30 years ago. It does not banish because some bureaucrat says so. It does not vanish because a program has become so compartmentalized that even, Even elected officials are expected to look the other way.
Starting point is 00:24:05 The Constitution gave Congress oversight, authority for a reason. No elected, no elected bureaucrat has that authority. This information is not yours to keep. It belongs to the American people. They own it and they deserve the truth. The most important people in this story are the whistleblowers. David Grush, Admiral Gallaudet, Dylan Borland, Jeff Nusatelli, and the many others who haven't been named. yet. Their careers were upended. Their families were torn apart. They endured an avalanche of stress,
Starting point is 00:24:39 all because they believed this information belongs to you, the American people, and they attempted and tried to get it to you. Some will say they should have used more proper channels to hell with the Safeway. The Safeway protects the system. These are people who simply wanted the American people to see what they know and they deserve protection. They deserve our respect and they deserve a second chance. And we are at a different time. This is the age of disclosure. Mr. President, I'm asking you directly, waive the non-disclosure agreements that still bind these patriots. Grant immunity to anyone and everyone who has already come forward and everyone who will come forward. Open the door and let them speak. Because unless people,
Starting point is 00:25:29 know they will be protected, why would they come forward and step forward otherwise? It is time that we flip the script entirely as well. It has been said by people in positions that know that even presidents have been kept on a need-to-know basis, that Navy pilots, admirals, and generals describe programs to senior officials that commander-in-chiefs were never briefed on. Career bureaucrats who view presidents as temporary help. Here today, gone tomorrow. That is not classification. That's a constitutional crisis. Transparency must be the default in the United States of America, and it should be required for those with knowledge to come forward, not wait for us to ask. There must be real penalties for officials who knowingly withhold information from Congress. Playing dumb is no longer acceptable. Hiding behind classification is no longer acceptable. Mr. President, you know, that the agencies lie. You know that firsthand. They have lied to you. They have lied about you.
Starting point is 00:26:36 They do not cooperate easily and they never have. This is the moment. Use the authority that you have, Mr. President. The American people are behind you. And to everyone listening today, in government, working for a contractor, retired anywhere in the world, come to Congress, come to these group of people. We will work with you. This is a worldwide call for action. And what you know and help help us please release every record every file and every piece of information. The time is now. Thank you. And with that I'll yield to the general, Mr. Perry.
Starting point is 00:27:16 What's it? Just be brief. Be brief, be brilliant and be gone. Well, it's good to be with you all and it's great to be with my colleagues and people that want transparency in America and just like my good friend, Mr. Burleson, Representative Burleson, and said this isn't the government's information. Unless there's some kind of national security element that's gonna imperil our safety,
Starting point is 00:27:41 this is our information. We should have it, every single bit of it, and you shouldn't be crazy, and you shouldn't have your reputation destroyed because you want to disclose. This is our government. This is our country. This is our information, and damn it, we demand it.
Starting point is 00:27:56 God bless you. Thank y'all. My name's Congressman Tim Burchett, and I know y'all got up this morning and said, That gum, I hope I get to stand out in the heat and listen to some redneck talking for too long. Well, keep it short. I am a redneck proudly. But it's a pleasure being here with you. I want to first salute the bravery of these folks standing back here on the back row for their guts.
Starting point is 00:28:24 This country was not created by a bunch of meek pansies. There's people that took a stand, and these fellows took a stand, and thank y'all so much. I really appreciate that. I appreciate my colleagues in Congress. I even have to say it. I appreciate my friends in the media today, so there you go. I've crossed over the divide, but, you know, I talked to the president about this issue, and he kept his word to me. He kept his word, and I think that's important.
Starting point is 00:28:49 But I think we also need to remember, too, when I'm sitting in a skiff and some little punk and a man bun tells me the president's on a need-to-know basis, folks, that ought to tell you right there what we're up against. We're up against corruption. We're up against a cover-up. This thing's been covered up at least since 1947. Dadgummit, the public deserves the right to know. It's your dadgum tax dollars. It's not about little green men or flying saucers. It's about what are we spending all these millions and possibly billions of dollars on
Starting point is 00:29:17 that these idiots tell us don't exist. And then yet we turn right around in a skip and then they tell us they do exist. This is a cover up. You all know it. We know it. We demand the answers. And dadgum it, we're going to get them. Look, we got one or two bites at this apple.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Please be careful about the false information. coming out of Washington on all this stuff. Trust your gut. You know what's right. You know they exist. You know this has been a cover-up since before most of y'all been born. Thank you y'all so much. Let's keep fighting for the truth. And thank you Donald Trump for keeping your word to me. And you all deserve to be in that skiff with us. We shouldn't be the gatekeepers. And none else of these jugheads up here should either. All right? Let's get at it. Thank you all. And I don't care if he's across the aisle or not. He's one of the, he's one of the, he's one of the, He's one of the smartest guys I know in Congress and he's one of my best friends.
Starting point is 00:30:13 His name is Jared Moskowitz. Jared, come up here, brother. All right, that'll be used in my primary, wonderful. I hate his gut. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. I don't have a plastic Jesus in my pocket.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Appreciate the correction for the record. Anyways, it's a pleasure to be here. It's a pleasure to be here with my colleagues. And let me thank the men and women behind them, not just for their courage, but for their service to the country. And that's what's changed. I mean, look, this conversation started years ago with people like the late Harry Reid and then Marco Rubio and Chuck Schumer and now my colleagues and many others in the house. But one of the things that changed is the quality and the caliber of people who are coming forward who have served our military, decorated people with the experience
Starting point is 00:31:06 airline pilots and the technology in our hands and the technology that our military has. That's what's changed. And what's also changed is we started asking questions, very simple questions. And this is what got me interested in the topic. We would ask questions and they would then push back. And we would ask more questions and the pushback became more significant. We would try to put language in an amendment, in a bill. And they would oppose it. They would secretly go to the chairman of committees to strip that language out. And that became clear to us, that they were hiding something. And so listen, I don't know what the full truth is,
Starting point is 00:31:47 but I know we're being lied to. And the American people know that also. And so look, the time for disclosure is now. Disclosure today, disclosure tomorrow. The American people have a right to know. We know about these advanced technology programs. We know they come out of Area 51. They did when we went to kill Osama bin Laden
Starting point is 00:32:09 with an advanced technology helicopter that Congress never funded. There's trillions of dollars missing at the Pentagon. Where does that money go? And so it's time for the government to come forward. And what we need is we need your help. All of you here. I get asked this question by people in my community more than anything else.
Starting point is 00:32:31 What does the government know and why aren't they telling us? The American people can handle it. They can handle it. I trust them. And it's time that we tell them. them the truth. Thank you. What? Introduce yourself.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah. My name is Leslie Kane. I'm one of the reporters who wrote the 2017 New York Times story that fundamentally changed the conversation about UAP. In the years that followed, members of Congress met with the Navy pilots and received classified briefings. Some came to realize that the observed objects were highly unlikely to be American, Russian, or Chinese technology, but nobody would publicly confirm what they would publicly confirm what they
Starting point is 00:33:19 were. Then in 2023, the conversation changed again. Former intelligent official and whistleblower David Grush met with members of Congress, providing them with detailed information about covert government programs that he said possessed craft of non-human origin. This had been hidden from congressional oversight for decades. I was privileged to have interviewed Mr. Grush extensively before publishing his story with my colleague Ralph Blumenthal three years ago. Six weeks after the story broke, Mr. Gruss testified under penalty of perjury in an open congressional hearing. While under oath, he spoke about an ultra-secret crash retrieval program and stated that some craft contained specimens or pilots, which he called non-human biologics. The potential existence of another
Starting point is 00:34:16 living, intelligent, advanced species has more implications for humanity than the recovery of technological hardware. Now the conversation needs to shift again with more of a focus on biology and less on technology. Having served for decades on the staff of Congressional Intelligence and Defense Committees, Kirk McConnell, who is standing here today in the back, He was present in classified settings when highly credible sources briefed senators, including Marco Rubio, about recovered non-human bodies. Unlike legitimate national security concerns that require us to keep advanced technologies of non-human origin secret, that justification should not apply to biological evidence.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Knowledge of the existence of another life form, studied and documented by qualified experts, should not be considered a threat to national security. By what authority can any institution withhold confirmation of what may be the most consequential scientific discovery in human history? Knowledge that we are not alone does not belong to any government or military. It belongs to all of humanity. Today, I call upon the president to prioritize the declassification and public release of any evidence concerning recovered, advanced, non-human biological entities. Thank you, and I turn this over now to David Grush.
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Starting point is 00:37:50 Visit Wayfair.cair.com. Wayfair, every style, every home. I'm tall. I'll try to enunciate. Good afternoon. I'm here today because my leadership on the disclosure issue is part of my continued service to the nation. I took an oath as an Air Force officer swearing allegiance to the principles and the framework of the U.S. Constitution. I took it oh seriously then, and I'd take that oath seriously now.
Starting point is 00:38:21 If this is one of my final duties of public service, I wanted to be this, helping Congress and the president restore lawful accountability over activities and spending that should never been placed beyond constitutional oversights and to be transparent with the American people. There are a myriad of issues across multiple cultural, religious, and institutional spectrums. The topics here that we're discussing today go beyond life in the universe. There are serious homeland security and airspace safety issues. There are relevant counterintelligence and technology protection issues that must be taken consideration. For decades, unknown objects have freely operated in restricted airspace in large metropolitan
Starting point is 00:39:03 areas and critical infrastructure and the agency's responsible for. for securing the homeland cannot adequately defend against it. This is a serious national security issue. In my official duties, I was exposed to human and signals intelligence information concerning foreign adversary UAP crash retrieval, exploitation and study efforts, adversary views on U.S. legacy program reverse engineering efforts, and U.S. held audiovisual information related to crash retrieval matters, such as the recovered vehicles and the associated biological material.
Starting point is 00:39:41 One must always be concerned about adversarial disinformation when you're getting foreign intelligence, but I was able to cross-verify this information internally to back up the foreign government assertions. Many of the president's team has been kept in the dark by high ego, politically appointed actors, both because of incompetence and malicious intent has subverted the president's order on this issue. Furthermore, some of this forward intelligence has not been provided to Congress despite lawful requests to the Defense Intelligence Agency last summer. And also having formally been published across the IC and analyzed by such analytical centers such as NACC, these records belong under congressional oversight. And I believe DIA should stop obstructing Terrellman Luna's task force and provide those documents to Congress and enter it through mandatory. classification review so the American public can see some of the foreign intelligence I had access to.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Secrecy around this issue did not appear overnight. Subsequent executive orders, secretary defense member randoms, departmented security, basically nullified Congress's role with the judicial branch with oversight this issue. Remember, classification exists to protect the nation. Executive Order 13-526 discusses what can and cannot be classified. Embarrassment, hiding funds, criminal activity and the basic information about scientific information in the universe is unlawful for it to be classified. And this is why whistleblower protections matter. Through my federal litigation ongoing with the Department of War, I learned that the Air Force worked with an external agency to seek an investigation of me for alleged unauthorized disclosures punishable
Starting point is 00:41:32 under the espionage act after I testified in front of Congress in 2023. The the results of my congressionally directed investigation and the support of the first Trump administration. This should concern every member of Congress regardless of the party. To this day, I'm still fighting years of record withholding administrative obstruction and a prolonged effort to get a medical military retirement that I still am not in a retired status. This is also a real fraud waste and abuse issue. President Vance's task force to sharply focus on the issue of misuse of funds, the same accountability. problem applies here. And during my investigation, I found slush funds to the tune of billions of dollars per annum for these activities. We cannot have one standard for the American people and another
Starting point is 00:42:21 standard for the deep state that hide behind the veil of secrecy. President Trump has the authority to create an enduring legacy of government transparency, accountability, consistent with national security protections. Disclosure should not depend on leaks. It should not depend on the public taking my word for it or anyone else's. American people deserve more than vague denials and selective releases of prior administrations to include through trouble organizations such as ERA. I applaud the president's efforts and has promised to show true American leadership on this issue of massive worldwide interest, over a billion views on the file drop website.
Starting point is 00:43:00 So the time has come to stop asking the public to trust secret conclusions. Instead, provide an honest accounting of what it knows, what it's done, and what has been withheld. God bless America. I think we have about four minutes before they call votes to open it up for a quick round of questions. So if you guys can just let's start with real America's voice. I certainly don't have the compendium. It's a continuum from corporeal bipedal type life to, you know, what I would consider is like sentient plasmo life. But there are there are several that the U.S. government is aware of. Okay. Yeah, I can't comment on the content of that program. I've discussed on my interviewed in Judicial Watch. was a national security council program and the secrecy started in 1954 through an Eisenhower
Starting point is 00:44:20 executive order that created that infrastructure. Thank you very much. Yep. I think the sovereign contract between the citizenry and its government, I think the institutional rots that the lack of transparency in this issue is possibly going to cause an unattainable socioeconomic condition if the government is not transparent akin to certain other, I don't want to say the Epstein files, that's a dirty word, but we could have that kind of scandal if we're not transparent on this issue. I would go watch James Fox's documentaries. I like the
Starting point is 00:45:14 disclosure is a great, great movie. That's a good primer. So, and I also, there is a declassified 1971 Australian formerly classified secret assessment that a couple years ago was put in the Australian National Archives. I encourage people to read page 7 through 16 and that was the nuclear branch chief of the Australian government discussing the U.S. cover rep and the involvement of the CIA back in the 70s. And that's actually a little known document that is publicly available. It's an ongoing federal investigation. Yeah. It's just weird that it somewhat correlates to the disclosure efforts. That would be a question for Rep. Burleson.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Yeah, David. Oh, well, yeah, Mr. Mr. Sullivan was on the legacy, uh, I served on active duty with him in the Air Force, but I don't want to discuss details of his knowledge until the federal investigation is complete. Okay. Yeah, Joe. So for those that are maybe not so familiar, yeah. Yeah. What's the road wants on?
Starting point is 00:46:39 What is preventing lawmakers that is one of the residents from visiting locations that have been critical to work in a hearing? David Lett and Burchett. The knowledge is there, but the ability to go and see them. I'll take a stop. If Congress says we're going to go to area 51. Oh, if Congress says we're going to go to area 51, everybody says, go to area 51, Bertrand. Oh, I'm going to get there's a good dead gum t-shirt, all right. The moving bans are already going to be there.
Starting point is 00:47:06 The problem you have is that these things have been moved into private entities so they don't have a foyer. I could, you know, I could, I could foyer a Ford Motor Company, but it doesn't mean they're going to do anything. That's why they moved it out of the federal governments. And that's part of the roadblocks. Other roadblocks we've seen, we tried to get a committee. We've had staff members try to block us. When we first started this thing with that first hearing that Grush said that there's biological entities,
Starting point is 00:47:33 they tried to move it into the, remember that Russian balloon that flew over, they tried to move it into that. Chinese, excuse me, they're all together. I don't care. No, I know they're not. But they tried to move it into that. We had staff members try to block us, just the top level. We've been in a skiff before, and we had a member of Congress. come in and just try to disrupt the meeting, try to disrupt Grush, throw him all these trick questions.
Starting point is 00:47:57 And he answered every dadgum one of them just right off the bat. He'd knocked it out of the park. So if there's, there's before we have to go because this is the last question. We do have a meeting set up with the White House. The White House is going to play ball on this. So as Rep Burleson and Birchett has stated, they are following through on everything that we are sending them. So the next course of action and something that they're willing to entertain is if you are
Starting point is 00:48:19 an intelligence official or have knowledge of locations. of materials and in doing our due diligence and following up the task force, they are considering, and I do believe that they are going to be providing immunity permanently so that people can't be hit with a violation of the Espionage Act. So again, there's a lot of people that have a lot of information, but it's really can we prove it and what information can we then bring forward to the American people. So we are still relying on you guys. Wait a minute, let the guy with it. He's had his hand up the whole time, ma'amie. Go ahead. Greg, there goes the bail.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Quite a few, several dozens. So that's an ongoing list. So can give you an exact number because I don't even have, I didn't even have full access to that information. Several dozen. Yes. Yeah. Bottom line, we got to go vote.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Bottom line, we wouldn't be here if it weren't for the bravery of these individuals who came forward, Mr. Grush, and all of the whistleblowers. We wouldn't be here if it weren't for. the political courage of my colleagues who took this issue from being a fringe issue to being something that everyone is talking about and is no longer, no longer a fringe issue. And we wouldn't be here if it weren't for this president who has taken a decades-long request and finally brought us into the age of disclosure. And so, and I want to say thank you to the press as well, to James and to Leslie and to everyone who has helped cover this topic.
Starting point is 00:50:06 We're here to fight for the American people, fight for the truth. And again, our last call to action is we want to challenge every foreign country. Do what the United States is doing. See what we're doing here. And we want to see your country follow suit. And we want to see if any individuals have any information, do not be afraid to come to a member of Congress. We will protect you.
Starting point is 00:50:29 And we will make sure that the. truth is out there. Thank you. It's shady. Y'all of the media, you'll figure it out. Of course, there's something going on. You had 14 rabbis, 14 preachers, 14 used car salesmen disappear. You'd be asking questions. There's something going on. What? Nothing to do with UFOs. I think he's just ill. Well, since you bear a striking resemblance to Stephen Spielberg, I'm going to answer this. But Matthew McConaughey is going to play Tim Burchett in the Tim Burchett story, Okay, I just want you know that. I can't talk about it.
Starting point is 00:51:20 That's the problem. Hey, tell your people to call their dadgum congressman. All right, we want disclosure. That's all you got to say. Disclosure. All right. I think that's it. I thought maybe we were going to hear from all the witnesses they had in the background here,
Starting point is 00:51:41 but apparently not. Okay. Let's pull this down. And we're going to do a little breakdown of what just happened, guys? Did anything just happen? That's the real question. Okay. Sorry, I've got like three screens,
Starting point is 00:52:04 audio's going in my ears here. Give me one sec. Okay. I'm going to bring in Suzanne, and we're going to break this down. She had her notepad there. See if she scribbled anything down. I got two things.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Two things. But let's see. Let's see. Here she is, the one and only. Suzanne Landers. Welcome. Good morning, everyone. How is everyone today?
Starting point is 00:52:28 How are you guys doing? Let her know in the chat. Okay, that was a whirlwind. It was. Very interesting display. I saw the chat asking questions like, why did we even do this? And my theory of why we did this
Starting point is 00:52:46 is so that the American people, and those of us in particular who follow this subject so carefully, can watch a consolidation of message and power. And I think maybe with a little subtext out to the Black Ops guys, we're not stopping. We're asking for presidential immunity for knowledge holders. So I don't think it's nothing. Did they present a gray alien on the Capitol steps?
Starting point is 00:53:15 They didn't. But I don't think that that was their, that's not what today was about, I guess, is how I took it. They did not present an alien gray, but I will mention one of the things I wrote down here was David Grush, at least according to him, confirming both bipedal, non-human biologics and sentient plasmoid life. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Sentient plasmoid life. And you have to think about that in relation to these orbs that have been. studied via psionics and otherwise, that they do seem sentient and they do seem plasmoidal. So I can see maybe a combination of that. But who knows? And it would have been great if there had been a little more information about that. That would have satisfied, I think, many of us in terms of hearing a little something new or seeing something concrete, tangible.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Right. And I do apologize at the beginning there, guys, with James Fox. I switched over to News Nation because they had like the more official thing. I noticed the Fox News one was very hard to hear. This one wasn't that much better. But I was a little bummed that we couldn't hear the questions from the audience. I understand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Like this thing was very, like it wasn't in. prompt you this thing's been planned for a while but when you're doing an event outside of the capital you're very restricted on like what you're going to capture both camera and audio wise you've got the you could hear the sirens and the car horns and it almost brought like a more of an immediacy to it other than like a congressional hall or something like that so that was kind of interesting the wind was blowing through the the microphones there so i don't know how you manage that that's just problem. We deal with it with air conditioning and fans, but we're dealing real time with wind. But I think if we back up a little bit and take a more bird's eye view of it, watching all of those
Starting point is 00:55:32 players on the Capitol steps with this message and a direct message to the White House and there's apparently another meeting set up between Anna Paulina Luna and the White House. So maybe something's coming from that. She's been so effective. and identifying very specific things that I guess she has seen in a skiff and waiting on them to be released. So, you know, there's value there. Yeah. I think the biggest question, at least our live chat here, is asking is, who was the guy that Bertrand was talking about who had the man bun? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:11 We don't want to know who the man bun. In a skiff. Exactly. Exactly. Hello to Moth into the Flames. Welcome, my friend. Good to have you here. Thanks, Tets. They switched over to our channel.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Appreciate that. It's so good. And it all went well today. Sometimes when we live stream these things, the bad thing is real, trying to stay. You never know. Never know. Like, we weren't even sure who was going to be, like, broadcasting the event. Me and Martin Willis, a podcast UFO. We were going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Like, do you know yet? News Nation is that? What's going on? What's happening? Where are we linking? Where are we linking? Yeah. The other thing that caught my attention was when Grush brought up
Starting point is 00:56:48 this Five Eyes Alliance sort of thing with Australia. He said look into pages 7 through 16 of the Australian file release. I need to look into that. I'm going to start asking around. I know Australia release. Grant will probably know John Greenwald probably is already on it. I believe I know what they're talking about. There was a huge Australian UFO file release through the United States,
Starting point is 00:57:16 through CIA releases of UFO stuff. So I'm going to go back and look through there and see if I could find it. If I do, I'll post it on our social media and whatnot. But that was interesting. He's like, take a look back at that again. That's interesting. They brought up the alleged whistleblower who unfortunately died recently, days before he was going to testify.
Starting point is 00:57:41 That was interesting. Also, Burchett's coming on. Yes, something's going on. on with McCaslin missing and all of those scientists, military scientists with connections to NIH and other similar things, that there's something there. And so I think, you know, many of us were just thinking, well, nothing has congealed around that topic. Maybe there isn't something there, but I think there might be something there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they just found the body of, like we mentioned on our last live stream,
Starting point is 00:58:16 unfortunately of Melissa Cassius, one of the missing scientists. Very unfortunate. So a lot of questions to remain behind where she was found, why there was a handgun there, was this self-inflicted, what is going on there? Why the phone was in factory default, both yes and personal.
Starting point is 00:58:37 But I also thought, Ryan, that Eric Berluson's comment about having sent targeted request to some of the companies, the black op companies. I would love to know more about that, but I bet all that is tight behind a skiff and tight behind a classification. So I was actually pleased to hear it. I'm sure you were too, that it's not just this public stuff asking for cooperation. And I thought it was very clear between the speakers.
Starting point is 00:59:10 No trust, no trust. I heard the word liar, liars, multiple times, destruction, those kinds of words, which we've long watched. So I do think when Leslie Kane says, it's a new day, it's a new day. We're not, none of that obfuscation is going to work anymore. I think that's a little sub message that they were sending today was the game is on, guys, you know. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was good to see Leslie. It's been a while since we've seen her out in the public.
Starting point is 00:59:45 And, you know, again, we have heard of thank for the New York Times article. I know a lot of it has kind of been, the reporting was not as accurate as we had all hoped for as time went on. But look, stories develop, things change. And you learn more. And then when you learn more, you do better. You do better. I think that's what you watch, especially in this, because you only know what you know. And you know that old saying, you don't know what you don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Exactly. Yeah. And then the more you learn, the less you know. That's the way it feels some days on this podcast, doesn't it? It does. Yeah. It's when you think you've got all your data in a little block box. Oh, no. Yeah. And then we have plasmoid sentient beings.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Oh, yeah. That's a new term. I was never familiar with. So people need to get on that. That's going to be the next buzzword instead of psionics. It's not blasmoys. Exactly. What did you make of the people in the background there? You had Jeff Nucatelli. You had Tim Galladay. It looked like the guy, the former intelligence guy that James Fox had in his documentary was back there. I don't remember his name.
Starting point is 01:00:49 It's escaping me. But what did you make of some of these people? Jordan Flowers from the Disclosure Foundation right beside Peter Scafish from the Soul Foundation. I thought it was interesting. I do want to know. I don't know if the chat knows who was the one they called the general. Yeah, who was that guy? Who was that?
Starting point is 01:01:07 And that's a new player. I don't know who that is. but I'd like to know. When we think of the general, we think of McCastland, but this was not. That would have been a press conference. That would have been the news, wouldn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Damn, that would have been crazy. Not to make light of that situation, but the super chat and super stickers are open, guys. If you want to ask any questions or get your comments in as we start to kind of wrap things up here, we would truly appreciate that. Thank you to those who have donated. That's very kind of you. But yeah, who was that guy? Does anyone know the general car insurance?
Starting point is 01:01:45 Monster Hunter Blair. Yeah, what did you guys find interesting about this thing? Yeah, tell us in the chat. What was the poll? Oh, I put, will we learn anything new from Grush? Let me go look at the results before I get your thoughts on that, Suzanne. Let's see here. I'm just refreshing.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Me too. I'm looking at my notes. Will we learn anything new from David Grush at this event? I asked this before the event started. Out of 142 votes, 60% of you said yes, we would learn something new, and 41% of you said,
Starting point is 01:02:17 no, we would not. So more of you thought we would, then wouldn't. Do you still think? Yeah, we have intelligent plasmaoid. I've never heard that term before.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Never, never. Yeah, and bipedal, too. So, I mean, we're talking like things with arms and legs, right? That's what that word means, right? That's right.
Starting point is 01:02:36 I took science. Me good at science. Yeah. We do science thingies. Exactly. The general, yeah, nobody knows. I don't know. We got to figure out this general. We had the Australia thing.
Starting point is 01:02:54 So I'm going to look into that. That was interesting. Moskowitz. You said you really enjoy when we hear from him. What did you think about him? He's a spicy little fella. I like him. He is.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Paxi plunge. And I think he just, he just is who he is. he doesn't pull a bunch of punches. If he says it, you can believe him. If he skirts it, he's not ready to talk about it. I think Burchett is kind of the same way, Dang Dumbet. Yeah. My God, that man loves to be in front of a microphone. And he's great for soundbites. I will give him that. He is. Yeah. I thought it was also interesting that in a couple of different ways via a couple of different speakers, the dichotomy of who this knowledge belongs to is laid bare. That it is not a government secret, that it is an item that belongs to humanity and not just Americans. It's everyone.
Starting point is 01:03:50 If we are not alone, it's time to talk about it. We cannot stay in the don't look up camp any longer. It's nuts. Yeah, it is. Good point. Clara, we have to thank. She is enlightening us here on. David Gresh pointed to a little-known document that is publicly available. 1971 declassified Australian formerly classified secret assessment that a couple of years ago was put into the National Archives. I encourage people to read page 7 through 16. That was the nuclear branch chief of the Australian government discussing the cover-up and the involvement of the CIA back in the 70s. Clara, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I do believe I've seen these documents before, Cesar.
Starting point is 01:04:38 So I'll try to go locate them, but guys, I'm sure you can do it quicker than we can for sure. Yeah. Yeah. This really was, I think, kind of a not so much a call to action for the public, like you had said, but more for the president. Now, he said, here you go. Here's White House or what is it, war.gov. Here's your pursue. Here's your files.
Starting point is 01:05:04 that's not what we're looking for, as Anna Paulina would call them meat and potatoes. That's what we're getting. I don't think we are. I think we got the little parsley they put on top of the meat. I think that's what we got. Yeah. I think we've got a long ways to go. And I think all of them, bipartisanly, are saying, Trump, come on, man.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Like, we give you credit for doing something because it's more than most presidents have done. But this ain't going to cut it. We know, we know there's more out there. So, well, and I also, I think we need to keep in mind, too, that the White House probably, and I don't just mean President Trump, I mean historically, all of them, they're in the dark, for the most part, just like we are. Now, this particular president is getting some briefing that I think others may not have or very limited numbers have in a very limited way. So I think that was part of the message, too, by saying that they're going to the to the black ops and that those people are getting in the way, I think it was a way to let the president know that here's where you need to direct some energy. That and a darn presidential immunity package for these whistleblowers. And let me just tell you. Let's talk about that. Yeah. Yeah. If you know a whistleblower, they do not need to step into that process,
Starting point is 01:06:26 in my humble opinion, without legal counsel. I appreciate Eric Burleson doing everything. everything within his power to keep these whistleblowers safe, whistleblowers safe, they are not safe. And he cannot keep them safe, despite his wonderful intentions. So there needs to be some presidential immunity that's very clear and long term, a permanent, you know, like a lifelong thing, not a 60-day thing. And we've got to work the puzzle better on UAPDA. I'm so happy you said it can't be temporary because I was re-listening to our conversation this past week on the live stream because you're vastly more intellectual than I am and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:07:15 wait, I need to go back and listen to what Suzanne said there. And you're right. Like they can do a temporary immunity thing, but what happens after a year? Like, are they then going to come after them and put them in federal prison? Or something like that. Like a 60 day window, Ryan. 60 days in the role of governmental entities might as well be the blink of an eye. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:40 And so maybe someone has a plan for if you come forward in this window, you get immunity and that immunity is permanent. But that is not what's being said. So until they release some more details, we're just not going to know. Right. Right. Yeah. I mean, we even talked about when Jeremy Corp.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Bell recently had those three whistleblowers up on stage at contact in the desert and was telling us all the horrible things that have happened to them because they came forward. And while that's unfortunate, it's like, okay, but like, you can't protect them either. Like, you can't hide behind your journalistic protections because they don't mean anything. You were told that by someone in the intelligence community. They don't give a shit about journalistic protections. You can't help the whistleblowers when they go home and someone broke into their house and move stuff around. And scattered your dead father's ashes out near a trash bin or something.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Yeah, yeah. It's just not okay and it is not safe yet. So I promise that there are groups behind the scene working on that legal package that needs to expand and clarify. But gosh, it's a slow process. It is. It always is, yeah. You mentioned another event that's going to be taking place that I keep forgetting to promote about disclosure. Could you maybe tell us a little about that if you happen to have the information?
Starting point is 01:09:10 Absolutely. So the Disclosure Foundation, which I am part of the legal team for Disclosure Foundation, they are having a full day event on June 25th in the Kennedy Room at the Capitol. And I think it might be live streamable. We're working on details around that. I'm so hopeful because I have thought from the beginning that this message with the important whistleblowers, all the politicians, some of the military guys, that really needs to be out there. Because this pressure that you're watching build slowly, it's going to ultimately have an effect. So I think it's really important to keep the pressure on right now because we are rolling the ball,
Starting point is 01:09:57 albeit uphill, in the right direction right now from a governmental perspective. So hopefully we'll be able to live stream that. I won't be able to be there because I'll actually be at the event running around like a crazy person. Yes. But cross your fingers, everyone, that that is live streamable. Yeah. I'll be keeping an eye on that. We will have you boots on the ground there.
Starting point is 01:10:22 So hopefully you'll get a few moments. I don't know how. I know you're going to be busy. We'll figure out something. And as usual, our very loyal and wonderful follow hides in long grass, he's going to try to be there as well. So I'm hoping he and I might tag team data, if, you know, depending on what's going on. Yep, he'll be there. There he said.
Starting point is 01:10:43 He'll be there. Can always depend on him. I love it. He's always there. That's right. I'm trying to think if there was anything else from this event that we could glean that was positive. I know a lot of people were disappointed in it, but look, we had no idea going into it, what it was going to be either. Some people are like, this is just like a high school pet rally.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I'm like, yeah, kind of was, but sometimes you need that. That's what you need. I also thought that it was interesting that Mr. Grush said something about take a, and it was like a side comment. But for my ears, I guess probably lawyer ears, I perked right up because he said, let's take all these documents and put them through the mandatory review process, which is at a 25-year mark for a document. Most of these documents are well within the category that ought to without anyone asking be popping up for mandatory declassification review. So, you know, eyes on that as well because that would be a huge step forward. to force them into that process and see what we get. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Do you think we'll get another pursuit drop anytime soon? That's such a good question. I think the White House is going to have a very hard time with this kind of display this morning, with the Disclosure Foundation, with the movie Disclosure Day, and all of the stuff around that, this just seems like a tremendous thing that would be hard to stay silent or ignore. So I do think we'll get more,
Starting point is 01:12:27 Quinn. I don't have any sense of that, but neither was I expecting the first and second drops to be so close. So close. Yeah. Of course, it sent us into a tailspin.
Starting point is 01:12:38 I know. Figure it all out in short order, but maybe that's what they're after. If we can't keep up, then... Yeah, I know. I was at Comic-Con when the second one dropped. I'm like, she said, I literally just got through like page three of the first drop.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Like, come on. They're doing this to it. Like, sorry. We're flying now, right? We're trying. We're trying. Yeah, I do wonder because, from what I heard, Anna Paulina was interviewed and said, yeah, drop two. That was like the meat and potatoes.
Starting point is 01:13:06 And I'm like, are you serious? Really? I mean, the videos were a bit more compelling. That's true. But we're hearing her. We're hearing Burlington say, these videos that we've seen, they defy all physics and logic and all about that. They're like, it was insane.
Starting point is 01:13:24 And then we watch the videos. We're like, that's parallax. That's a balloon. We can be bunk. In fact, you want to learn to hard less and let the experts sit out there with it for a few days, three or four days. And then you can really learn more about what you're watching. But what would have been, what would be a next incredible step is
Starting point is 01:13:43 plasmoidal placoidal sedience by fetal beings if where is that and are they going to press for that now that those words have been spoken on the capital steps right yeah good good point
Starting point is 01:13:58 there was one other thing that I wanted to touch on but it's escaping me has anyone found out who that general was in the chat I haven't anyone update us on who that guy was I'm still interested Speaking of general, it's interesting to hear Mr. Gresh mentioned the 1954 Eisenhower document that has created this whole problem.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Now, I think personally, it was a problem before the 1954 document because I know as early as the Magenta incident in Italy, outside of Milan, under Mussolini, I know our hands were already in the pulling of that craft from that incident and hidden that we were already working behind the scene. means as was Mussolini. So I think the document in 54 was like the padlock on the door, maybe. Door was already closed, but. Freakin Eisenhower, you son of it. Undo it. Sync R says, someone of this guys, this is just a start. It's going to be a bit of a long road. Let's keep the belief. They're going to go far and going to get results. The results is going to blow our minds, keep positive. I'm definitely like, I'm not negative by, any stretch, but I have made it abundantly clear on interviews and in my own show that I do not,
Starting point is 01:15:21 I'm not expecting a disclosure from the United States government. I think it will happen by accident. And I think the work of people like what we saw today will elucidate and bring some stuff to the surface. But as I always say, Suzanne, don't rely on the government for disclosure. Go outside look up, talk to someone who's had a sighting, and then attempt to have a sighting of your own. And that can be disclosure enough. You don't need to know exactly what it was, where it came from. Just knowing that anomalous phenomena exists in this world that you can't explain, live in that mystery. It makes life worth living.
Starting point is 01:16:06 I can honestly say that. And I do think we're better off today as a result of our government's limited disclosure, we're watching Brazil. All their documents went up in the last 48 hours. Regrettably, for me, fortunately for you, there's not a single document on Coleris. You know, darn it. Where's that? I know the American government had our hands and all that, and I think we took those crafts as well. But, you know, we're better than we were a year ago. We're ahead of where we were a year ago. The governments are talking. Japan's doing its thing. Brazil, France, you know, everyone's working in the same direction. So I do feel like there is
Starting point is 01:16:49 progress. We mentioned on the live stream this week. France is going to have a official UFO symposium on, I think it's June 29th, through Parliament. So I mean, steps are being taken. Japan, I just spoke to my liaison in Japan right before we got on here. They're having a press conference. This, it'll be night here in the UK, but in the morning over in Tokyo, having an event tomorrow morning. So I just retweeted that out on our Twitter account, someone in the skies. So if you guys want to watch that, if you speak Japanese or if there's a way it could be translated. Japan has a press conference tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:17:31 France is doing their thing. Members of Congress in the U.S. are now working with members of the Brazilian government. government on shedding more light on the, what do you call it? The one that James Fox just Barhenia. Farhina event. Yeah. So, I mean, things are moving and things are happening. And that's awesome. And I applaud those who do that. But for every one of these government disclosure things, I'm going to be over here taking down the stories of everyday people, having sightings and trying to get those out to people. There's room for everyone. There is. And I've told you, many times the value that I see in the witness accounts is that looking back historically,
Starting point is 01:18:14 I think they are going to be very powerful pieces of the puzzle as we get more pieces of the puzzle to work the puzzle. And so I think it's really important to do them. All hands on deck. All hands on deck. Yeah. Awesome. Well, can you think of any. What did I miss?
Starting point is 01:18:35 You missed a little bit like plasmodal. sentience. Yes, we now have a new buzzword term, Johan, in the UFO world. I'll start using it tomorrow in everyday conversation. I'm still stuck on psionics, but okay. Yeah, can I have the plasmoid cappuccino, please? For the side of psionics, yeah. Side of psionics. I should mention, I mentioned it at the top of this live stream, psionics-wise. I just spoke with Patrick Armstrong over at Bedded. That will be the podcast episode this. upcoming week about his brand new documentary that has released. You guys can watch it right now. I believe it's at psionics.film. If not, just type in Cyanics documentary, Patrick Armstrong.
Starting point is 01:19:21 It'll pop up for you. It's a wonderful documentary. If people get a chance to watch that. Also, Suzanne, I just watched Dean Aliotto's brand new documentary called The Experiencers. Oh. It was incredible. Yeah. So we will be interviewing Dean Alliotto in the coming weeks about his brand new documentary as well, the experiencers. So many amazing interviews coming up. Meredith Spearman of the maze to metanoia. She's coming on the show. So much. So much is happening in the next couple weeks. Just to tie for me. I'm going to go to Nova Scotia. I'm heading literally. I'm not allowed to be in the same time zone for more than a few days. I know. I'm trading old Scotland for New Scotland next week, but we will make things happen. We will be streaming. We will figure it all out.
Starting point is 01:20:16 But yeah, is there anything else before we get out of here? I think that's it. I'll be watching social media and everyone's takes on that if I find anything interesting or something that I didn't hear or didn't hear in proper perspective. I'll be posting it on the Facebook page and sending it to you for the Twitter stuff. So we'll be watching and listening. Amazing. Well, thank you. Where can people find you personally if they want to reach out? You can find me, of course, anytime Ryan posts something on YouTube, I'm right there with him, or you can email me at Suzanne Somewhere Skies at Gmail.com. Perfect. We'll have links in the show notes as well. And thank you guys. Thanks for joining us for what was a very enigmatic and mysterious thing. We had no idea what this was going to be. And it was, it was interesting, yeah, to say the least. And it moves the ball some way, somehow, even. if it's back downhill.
Starting point is 01:21:08 That's right. Towards the plasmoidal center. Yeah. Yeah. I'll take a large on that. Steemed, please.
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Starting point is 01:22:50 How do we know what's real? There's so many things that are unknown in this universe that I'm thankful. I don't know the answers to. In many ways, I feel like the unknown is a gift. It allows us to imagine what could. be and sometimes imagining what could be is actually greater than staring right at what is. Our brains try so hard to manufacture certainty and in our attempts to manufacture certainty, I think we get stuck and that causes us often to ignore what is real for one person,
Starting point is 01:23:45 which may be completely unreal for someone else. So how do we know what's real? We don't. Not knowing what is real allows us to peer more deeply into what could be and that is a gift in and of itself.
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