Somewhere in the Skies - CHRISTMAS Giveaway, New Jersey DRONE Madness, ALIEN Life on Mars, Oregon Pilot UFO Case

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

On a special HOLIDAY EDITION of the livestream, we break down the latest news in space, science, and UFOs, including: - Martian meteorite gives more clues for potential alien life. - New techno-signatures could help find advanced alien civilizations. - Archeologists discover 7,500 year old figure with reptilian features. - Oregon Pilot's video and audio transmissions of UFO sighting. - More New Jersey drone madness. - SPECIAL HOLIDAY GIVEAWAY! Rate and Review on Apple for our HOLIDAY GIVEAWAY: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/somewhere-in-the-skies/id1227858637 Book Ryan on CAMEO at: https://bit.ly/3kwz3DO Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/somewhereskies ByMeACoffee: http://www.buymeacoffee.com/UFxzyzHOaQ PayPal: [e-mail] Discord: https://discord.gg/NTkmuwyB4F Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/ryansprague.bsky.social Twitter: https://twitter.com/SomewhereSkies Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/somewhereskiespod/ Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/Sprague51/ Order Ryan’s new book: https://a.co/d/4KNQnM4 Order Ryan’s older book: https://amzn.to/3PmydYC Store: http://tee.pub/lic/ULZAy7IY12U Read Ryan’s articles at: https://medium.com/@ryan-sprague51 Opening Theme Song, "Ephemeral Reign" by Per Kiilstofte Produced by LIONSGATE Copyright © 2024 Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/somewhere-in-the-skies. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Imagine Christmas wishes shooting out of your eyes. A candy cake full of snow dreams. A stocking full of smile. It's a Jordan Christmas. I remember that. That video was raunchy. Mm-hmm. While our government's official position is not to speculate on this subject,

we can choose to let our minds explore other possibilities. To use our imaginations, for if we consider that astroscientists agree on one point, that the possibility of life elsewhere is not only quite probable, some field is there without a doubt. Let us suppose then that these objects are real space vehicles, extraterrestrial origin, and not an illusion of the mind. There's nothing to hide at all. What's up, guys? It's a Jordan Christmas.

What's going on? Happy holiday season to all of you. As you can see, I'm getting in the festive mood here in the somewhere in the skies HQ. I got my aliens. I got my nutcrackers. I got my gingerbread men. And I am feeling it, guys. I'm feeling the holidays coming on. I hope you are too. I know it can be a stressful time for some people, a fun time, a emotional time and everything in between. But that's what the holidays are for. And that's what somewhere in the live stream is for. It's to distract you for just a few hours from that holiday stress. So welcome. Welcome to all of our regulars in the chat. I see you. I love you guys.

Thank you so much for being here tonight. If anyone here is new, welcome. This is a live stream we try to do every Sunday here at 4 p.m. Eastern Standard 9 p.m. UK time where we break down all the latest UFO news, space alien news, and for some reason, drone news. And we've got plenty of it again for you tonight because we are in the middle of New Jersey drone invasion. And it's just getting we're getting we're here, guys. We will get to it later in the show with our amazing moderator, Suzanne.

She's going to be hopping in with us to talk all about the latest with the New Jersey drone invasion. But before we do that, I do want to say hello to everyone over on Twitter X, whatever you want to call it. Hello to our Twitch viewers as well. Good to see you guys too. Hopefully your comments will go through for us tonight. And what else do I got before we get into the news? Oh, gosh, James Fox, the filmmaker James Fox, his brand new documentary, the program drops tomorrow, December 16th,

as you're watching this. That's one day away. So get ready, y'all. And to get you ready, we had one of the first interviews with James Fox that premiered just under two days ago this Friday, right here on the channel. So if you go back one video, you should be able to watch our exclusive interview with filmmaker James Fox all about his brand new documentary, The Program, which I'm featured in, which I'm featured in, which is so, so cool.

That being said, I'm going to be showing some clips from that interview later for you guys, some clips that I pulled out that I thought were pretty interesting. Things that I think need more digging into, things that I think are going to really start the conversation and get you ready and get you excited for the program. Again, dropping tomorrow on all streaming platforms December 16th. So be on the lookout for that. I want to you guys know that the super chat and super stickers are open

if you would like to help out the show tonight. That is a very quick and easy way to do it right here on YouTube. if you're watching on YouTube. So yeah, all of that will go into helping to support our further endeavors here at the channel. So thank you in advance for any superchats or super stickers this holiday season. And if you're watching on Twitch or on Twitter and you want to throw us some bones as well, you can use Buy Me a Coffee or PayPal. We have links in the show notes or we'll have some QR codes up later on in the show to.

Hello, hello to everyone in the chat. I see you guys saying hello. Somewhere in the courtroom. Uh-oh. What's going on, Gareth? Someone in trouble? Anyways, I do want to tell you guys one more thing before we get started. I'm doing a holiday giveaway, a contest of sorts.

So here's what I need from you. I took like a two and a half month breakoff from the podcast. podcast. And I kick myself every day since then because I quit cold turkey. I kind of just disappeared off the face of the earth. It was for many different reasons, very personal reasons, which I won't get into here. But I didn't really tell anyone that I was stopping the podcast or the live streams. And at the time, I didn't think I owed anyone that. But upon further reflection. If I listened to a podcast or watched a channel for years on end and then all of a sudden it just disappears with no warning, no acknowledgement, nothing like that. I feel a little let down, little betrayed, I guess, would be the word to. So I just want everyone to know that that's not lost on me and that I apologize for having done that. Geez, that was about a year ago now at this point. But all that being said, I started the podcast.

back up, but I can fully admit and be transparent that the numbers were dramatically down. I think a lot of people kind of just gave up and didn't think I was coming back. Didn't know I ever came back? So numbers dipped quite a bit. I'm being completely honest with you,

like dramatically. And it's hard. It's hard to kind of, you know, regain people's trust that I'm going to be doing this every single week. And I have been for a while now. I didn't even put out some of my favorite episodes of all time since I came back. But all this to say, I need your help. I need your guys help to

get the word out about somewhere in the skies. And I thought a cool way to do that. Apple podcasts, still like the biggest podcasting platform in the world. Their rating and reviewing system really helps to get your show featured on that platform. And the only way to get featured is to get more ratings and reviews of the show. So what I'm doing is I'm putting a call out to all of you watching this on YouTube, any of you listening across your podcast apps in the future, to leave a rating and review for the Summer in This Guy's podcast on Apple. Now, I know a lot of you probably don't even listen to the show there, but I'm asking you. I'm, nay, I'm begging you. Please start an Apple podcast account. I don't know how you do that. And leave us.

a rating and review. It would mean the world to me. And in return, I'm doing a holiday giveaway. What I'm going to do for you guys is, for every rating and review on Apple that we get from today, December 15th, until January 1st, you are going to be put into a raffle to win a price from us here somewhere in the skies.

And that is going to be Project Blue Book, the Comic Volume 1, which is amazing. So if you're watching this on YouTube, I'm just going to show you some of this. We got the Betty and Barney Hill abduction case laid out beautifully for you guys. Now, this came out in issue form.

It was like, I don't know, eight to ten issues, but it's now available in full first volume for you guys. So I'm going to be giving this away as a raffle along with another exclusive gift from me personally. I'm not going to give away what that is, but you will be getting volume one of Blue Book, the comic, and you will be getting another special exclusive gift for me as well. So what I want you to do is go over to Apple Podcasts, rate and review the show,

and then send me a screenshot of your rating and review, because a lot of the times your handle on there isn't your name or anything like that, so I won't know who is who. send me a screenshot of your rating and review once you submit it. And you can send that to me through the email address that it will be in the show notes below. We'll scroll it across the screen as well. And this was the most efficient way I could think of doing it. Send me an email with a screenshot of your rating and review.

Or you can shoot it to me in my DMs on Instagram, on Twitter, on Blue Sky. Just get it to me some way, somehow. and you'll be put into a raffle to win this. I will be making the announcement of the winner on January 1st. So again, that's our holiday giveaway for a rating and review of Summer in the Sky's on Apple Podcasts. You will win volume one of Blue Book and you will win another gift that I will give to the winner as well. So there we go. That's it for that, guys.

I saw Gareth in the chat and Pat Gallagher and everyone always asking what I'm drinking. and for you guys tonight, I've got a Scotland exclusive Innocent Gun. This is their single malt beer. It's amazing. It's made with in whiskey cask, so it's very malty, very caramel-y. It's got a little bite to it. Love it, love it. So that's what I'm doing tonight.

What are you guys drinking? Let me know in the chat. I'll get to the chat, I promise. It's getting all this stuff out of the way. Another horrible pour. by former bartender, Ryan Sprague. But it is what it is. I want to say cheers and a happy holidays to all of you.

Here's my little mustache. Yeah, just go through my notes here. Cool, cool. So hello, hello. I see Kenzo is here. I see Lord Boss. Hello. Ashley is here.

Biologist is here. Richard is here. Donnie Falls. Jay Rosenberg, Android paranormal. Robert Chafee. Hello, guys. Lindsay Stewart is here. Hot chocolate.

Yeah. Yeah, that sounds so good. I'm going to scroll back up. I know I forgot some people. Gareth, Ruth Bradford is here. Hello, guys. Richard. I don't know if I said hello, Richard.

Daylon is here. All right, Donnie. James Craig. Hello, hello. Hello to the one and only Bill Landers. Welcome, my friend Zootiaks over on Twitch is here. Welcome. Fusey Electron.

Michael Huntington, Jeffrey Tomlin. Wow, everyone is here tonight. I am loving this. Hello to Sir Gosbo. I love that name. Love it, love it. Ooh, Voodoo Ranger. That's a good one, biologist.

Good, good beer. Can you sign it, Ryan? Sure. Sure. I'll leave that up to whoever wins. If they would like me to sign the Blue Book comic, I will. But the other thing I'm going to give you, I will definitely sign.

If you so, choose that, I'd be very flattered by that. So thank you. All right. Let's do it, guys. Let's get to the news because we have so much to cover with you. Oh, man, I'm just so excited. We got a good night. Interesting night.

Very diverse. What's that? What is that? No, that's not a dinosaur egg. It's a Martian meteorite. And this story comes to us from CNN. The Black Beauty was found on Earth in 2011. Now scientists say it has revealed a new clue to life on Mars.

Let's go. Life on Mars. Bring on Marvin the Martian. So a mineral trapped within a Martian meteorite that fell to Earth has revealed traces of water on Mars that date back 4.45 billion years. according to new research. The Zircog grain may contain the oldest direct evidence of ancient hot water on the red planet, which may have provided environmentalists, excuse me, may have provided environments such as hot springs that are associated with life on Earth. The discovery opens up new ways of understanding whether Mars was ever habitable in its ancient past,

and it also adds more support to observations. already gathered by the fleet of spacecraft orbiting and roaming the red planet, which have spotted evidence of where rivers and lakes once existed on the Martian surface. Scientists analyzed a sample from the Black Beauty meteorite, also known as NWA 7034. Ooh, NWA. So close to NWO. New World Order. Shout out to my WCW fans.

This was found in the Sahara Desert back in 2011. The meteorite was ejected from the Martian surface after another celestial object hit the planet between 5 million and 10 million years ago and fragments of it have served as a key source of studying ancient Mars for years. A new study published in the journal Science Advances on November 22nd

focused on a single grain of the mineral zircon spotted within the meteorite. The team's analysis shows that water was present just 100 million years after the planet formed, which suggests that Mars may have been able to support life at some point in its history. Until samples can be returned directly from Mars, the Black Beauty meteorite is one of the best windows into how the Martian crust formed, and what the early surface of Mars was like. Currently, the Perseverance rover is climbing the rim of the Jezero crater on Mars, an ancient lake once filled with water 3.7 billion years ago. Some of the rocks the rover has encountered may have been formed by hydrothermal systems.

The rover will take samples from the rocks because they could preserve evidence of ancient microbial life. Love it. Straight out of Sedonia, Michael Huntington says. See, this is cool, guys. Like, yeah, we can talk UFOs. We're going to talk drones. But science, life on other planets, even microbial is just a game changer. We can argue till our faces are red about whether that life is intelligent, whether that life is in control of some of these UFOs and UAP that have allegedly visited our planet. But at the end of the day, this sort of stuff inches us closer to the acceptance that there could have been life out there within the Milky Way galaxy.

So cool. Imagine if there was intelligent life there before and they could visit here to see dinosaurs. Exactly. So cool. So, so cool. All right. Let's move to our next story, guys. And before we do that, I want to give a shout out to the biologist.

for the Superchat Keep, the change, you filthy edible. Love it. Nice home alone reference, man. Love it, love it, love it. Let me see here. Cool. Let's move to our next story. And this

is staying in the world of alien life. This story comes to us from Tim McMillan at the debrief. A new type of alien techno signature could help scientists find advanced ET civilizations. So cool. So,

guys, what if the key to finding ET civilizations lay not in listening for signals, but in scrutinizing water? This is a question posed by Tim McMillan over at the debrief. A new study led by Dr. David C. Katling, Washington proposes a paradigm shifting approach, hunting for enduring markers of alien technology

by measuring deuterium, a heavy isotope of hydrogen in exoplanetary waters. So the research published in a pre-print on RXIV delves into how advanced ET civilization's use of nuclear fusion technology could affect a planet's. water composition. Fusion reactors, particularly those are lying on Deuterium, Deuterium, yeah, let's go with that. Particularly those are lying on Deuterium, Deuterium D.D. reactions consume deuterium as fuel. Over millennia, this would drastically lower the DH ratio in oceans and water vapor. And unlike radio signals, which require an active civilization, deuterium depletion persist. for eons. So even if a civilization disappears or moves on, this signature could remain.

It's a ghostly trace of its technological existence. Detecting such anomalies hinges on advanced telescope technologies. Instruments like the James Webb Telescope and future missions like NASA's Habitable World's Observatory or the European Large Infurometer for exoplanets could analyze water vapor in the atmosphere of distant worlds. Key spectral features such as the 3.7 micron wavelength of deuterium enriched water provide a promising window for these investigations. Among the intriguing possibilities is the concept of Dyson spheres, which is something we've talked about in the past on the show, which is a theoretical megastructure constructed around stars to capture energy, which could be identified through anomalous infrared signatures.

Another idea involves detecting artificial illumination. Some researchers propose that city lights on exoplanets might emit unique detectable wavelengths. Additionally, planets with irregular or erratic orbital patterns could signal the gravitational influence of massive alien engineering projects. Even the spectral signatures of uniquely evolved alien ecosystems have been considered. as they could offer biosignatures that hint at the presence of life far different from what we know on Earth. So together, all of these ideas expand the scope of techneture signature studies, pushing the boundaries of how we search for ET civilizations. So, so cool. It's exciting. I love technosignatures. I think it is such a cool concept and what we should have been doing a long time ago.

But now we have the power to do it with things like the James of the Telescope to really look at these planets, these moons, these exoplanets, and see if we can find city lights or, you know, other things that they mentioned using harnessing Dyson sphere energy. And, ah, God, I love it. Love it, love it. Hello to Joseph is here. Welcome. Welcome, welcome. Welcome, guys. All right.

We are speeding through these stories, guys, because I know what you want. You want some drone zone. I get it. But let's talk archaeology. I found this story to be fascinating. This comes to us again from the debrief. Archaeologists discover mysterious 7,500-year-old head with reptilian features. Researchers from the Kuwait Polish Agricological Mission

working at the Barra one site in the Al-Sabaya Desert of northern Kuwait have discovered a mysterious 7,500-year-old figurine of a head with reptilian features, including elongated skull, slanting eyes, and a flat nose. So if you're watching this on YouTube, you're seeing it right here. After studying this artifact, Professor Peter Belinski from the Polish Center of Mediterranean Archaeology, University of Warsaw, said that the discovery of the figurine, the first of its kind found in the region, raises intriguing questions about its purpose and the symbolic or possibly ritualistic value at held for the people of this ancient community. The research team, which includes scientists from all over the world and from Kuwait's National Council of Cultural Arts and Letters, notes that the newly discovered figurine is somewhat similar in design to statues and figurines with bird, snake, or reptilian features made by the Ubaid culture, which flourished during the time and in that region.

However, most archaeologists still don't know the Obide people's motivations for construction. restructing reptilian headhead figures. Along with the mysterious figurine, evidence of locally made pottery and a pottery foundry used to create coarse red wear was also found at the site. You're seeing that image on your screen now, too, if you're on YouTube. The discovery of a foundry resolves a longstanding debate about the origin of this type of pottery, which the researchers say is known from sites in the Arabian Peninsula. Depictions of humans with snake heads, lizard heads, or other classically reptilian features have appeared in several worldwide cultures throughout history. However, most have been tied to specific gods or religious practices.

Like the Samarians, which were considered the earliest known civilization, they worshipped a snake god named Ningeshitsa, who was shown to represent vegetation, the underworld, and sometimes war. Although the Obed period predates the Samarians by thousands of years, both flourished in Mesopotamia, meaning the Samarians may have inherited their worship of iconography with Rakhilian features from the Obed ancestors. Still, archaeologists don't know the significance of the original Ubed period people's motivations for making statues that look statistically non-human, or how these statues may have been included in religious, spiritual, or ceremonial practices. Until more is known about the people of the Ubed period, their motivations for creating these types of figures with reptilian features will remain a mystery. So there you go, guys.

There's an update on a really cool archaeological find that's reptilian, which I thought was kind of cool, mixes into the UFO. lore with the reptoids and all that stuff and, you know, this stuff's brought up a lot on things like ancient aliens and I know, I know, I know what you're saying, but it's interesting. Z-Man, wonder if it is like some person's ancient deviant art sketches. It very well could be. It could be their like comic book character they created or something like that. Z-man, I love that. Oh, that is good.

All right, who's ready for UFOs? Not drones. I don't think, at least, but UFOs. You guys have probably heard about this story. It's been making the rounds. And it's pretty interesting. Pretty interesting. A pilot told to maneuver around an Oregon UFO

can be heard in a leaked cabin audio. So this story first came to us from Newsweek. That's the first place I found it. Two pilots described seeing UFO zipping through the sky west of Eugene, Oregon on December 7th, according to a recording of their communication with air traffic control. So I'm going to go ahead, guys, and play a little bit of that air traffic control transmission for you. And we'll talk a little bit more about this on the other side. So give this a listen, a watch, and then, yeah, let's try to figure out what this guy saw, what these pilots saw.

We're seeing three or four targets. Yeah, they're all altitudes up and down. It's pretty crazy. We're not seeing anything getting a lot of different ports out there. Some at 30, some all the way up to 50,000, about three, four different lights. Does it look like they're around your altitude now? Moving in, like, just had another one show up about my high, zipping towards us and then back out towards the ocean.

It's red in color. Moving at extreme speed. Roger, you are cleared to maneuver as net. area left the right to avoid the UFO out there. I guess I'm just as curious as everybody else. I'd just like to know what it was we saw. Lifeline pilot Joe Buley has seen objects moving across the night sky before, including satellites and shooting stars.

But the bright orange light spotted above the Eugene area was clearly different. The biggest thing that stood out is it was changing directions. Usually things don't change directions. Audio recordings captured his conversation with air traffic controllers. That's red, red is color. moving at extreme speeds. I don't know. You are cleared to maneuver as necessary.

I left the right to avoid the UFO out there. At least four commercial pilots spotted the same mysterious bright lights above Oregon this weekend. We're seeing three or four targets. The other all altitudes up and down. It's pretty crazy. Buley said the lights showed up on his aircraft's collision avoidance system. On my T-CAS traffic collision avoidance system, It's in one of my middle screens of the platus.

You can see aircraft on it usually. And I saw a target that would stop right on that ring and before it would go back out over the horizon, disappear out over the horizon off the ocean. So your aircraft's collision avoidance system was picking something up and yet it wasn't showing up on other radar? ATC said they couldn't see it. Researcher Douglas Bittner believes

the eye-catching lights may be reflection from Starlink satellites, launched by Space X to provide broadband internet. And literally all it is is the sun is hitting the satellite just right, and it's being reflected back into your eye. The lifelight pilot didn't think it was a satellite because of the odd movement he witnessed, along with his crew. Starlink, I'm so sick of debunkers using that. It is the reason for a lot of sightings.

I get that, but come on, man. Like, just stop with this one. Like, this thing is zipping by is plain. Maneuver as necessary. How is that possible when the target is zipping around and TCAS is pinging? Exactly, Daly. Exactly. Oh, man.

Suzanne, let's avoid that UFO out there. Yeah, I love that. Avoid the UFO, please. Please maneuver around it if you could. We would really appreciate that. Crazy, crazy. Swamp gas again. Yep.

Oh, man. I'm so happy the pilot came forward because, like, this was making the rounds. I think it kind of started on Reddit. And people were like, I don't believe it. And then he started dropping video photos. And then the pilot finally came forward. So we have that. And he wasn't the only pilot to report things around Oregon in that time period.

So, I mean, something was going on. Something was going on. Was it drones? I don't think so. I don't think so. avoid spiraling satellites. Jesper says. Oh, man.

I love that. The only sighting I've turned out to be Starlink, the search, the only site I've had turned out to be Starlink. The search continues, the biologist says. Yeah. Jay Lilly, the debunker's explanation is often more bizarre than the actual experience. These weather balloons are out of control, Pat Gallagher says, yep.

Those pesky weather balloons, I tell you. I tell you. Richard asks Ryan, I know your family lives out in the East Coast. Have they seen anything out in the skies? Richard, that's a very good question. Now, I have a very good friend who lives in New Jersey, and I did reach out to him. He hasn't personally seen anything,

but a friend of his was posting videos on his Facebook, I believe. And he swears up in. out that yeah yeah it's happening the it was not a conventional plane which is a big argument we'll get to later and he saw it he saw several drones and he was able to capture them on the video um so i'm i'm working on getting those videos kind of taking a look at them and um and seeing like you know if we can if we can figure out that it's a drone uh it's part of the drone invasion if we can figure out it's a whatever, a small aircraft, a commercial aircraft of some sort or military, then we have an explanation.

But yeah, interesting times. Interesting times. The Japanese are making bigger lanterns. It's possible. It's possible. Ruth, I agree with Causeway Pictures. I think it's a government operation. Could be.

It very well could be. I think we talked about that last week. Starlink satellites are too small or deliberately launched in a straight line, look like a train across the sky. These drones fit none of that description. Yeah, they do not. Not at all. Not at all. All right, guys.

So I've got a lot of videos for you in the next half of the show. So I'm going to take a very, very quick break here. We're going to reset the room, as it were, regroup, come back, and we are going to talk. the New Jersey drone invasion. It's just getting crazy. What a way to end the year, right? What a way to end the year. Stick with us.

We will be right back here at somewhere in the live stream where we will be bringing in Suzanne, our moderator, to talk all about the crazy drone stuff that's going on. I have to admit, I'm keeping my distance from it all because it's just, I want to get back. I want to get back. I'm dropping my microphone to flying saucers and triangles and this and that. So sick at drones.

But hey, it's the world we live in today. All this being said, stick with us, guys. We'll be right back. And we got some awesome videos from our interview with James Fox to show you and in some fun videos about the New Jersey drone invasion. So I'll see you in just a sec. And, yeah, stay tuned. Greetings everyone, Ryan Sprague, your host of Summer in the Skies.

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Or by clicking the subscribe button at the top of your Apple Fills. feed, thank you for your continued support, and keep looking up. Welcome back to somewhere in the live stream, guys. And if you're just joining us, we were just talking all about the latest alien techno-signature-related news, an awesome story about possible microbial life on Mars, a incredible archaeological find recently of a reptilian-like figure. Just love it. Love it. Love it, love it.

But now we're going to get down and droney. So much going on. I see people in the chat, Pat Gallagher. I'm feeling very skeptical today, guys. It's a downer. Why? Why are you feeling skeptical, buddy? I want to know, Pat.

We need your incredible British optimism, my friend. Bring us back up. Bring us back up. Tinkers trade. This drone flap and NJ has everybody, our private parties and a few aliens sprinkled in. That's my opinion. So a little bit of everything.

Interesting. Cosway, did you see the guy firing his rifle at one? It pissed off pretty quick. I think one of those videos was debunked. It was not real. But it wouldn't surprise me if people start shooting at these things. Maybe they actually have. Maybe they actually have a distraction from what Cosary says.

Good question. I'm going to play a video for you guys that's probably going to piss a lot of people off. No, no, it's not who you think it is. It's not the other one who you think it is either. I know exactly the two people you think I'm going to say, but it's not them. This is a person that I'm not actually familiar with. His name is Matthew Capucci, and he is an atmospheric scientist, storm chaser, and meteorologist with my rambore. radar weather. And he recently put a video up on Twitter and then deleted it, which is interesting. But I'm going to go ahead and play it. It's a little lengthy, but I want you guys to hear the whole thing, because I think it'll open up the dialogue of a lot of what we're going to be talking about tonight. So give this a watch, and then we're going to bring Suzanne in after this video and really dig into this.

Hopefully this video works here in my studio. If not, I'm just going to have to upload it really quick. So let's give this a try. Of course it's not. Okay, so give me one sec here. I got you guys. Don't worry. Anything.

Anything can be solved here. It's somewhere in the live stream. Hold on one sec. Where are you? Matthew Capucci. Where are you, my friend? There he is. All right.

Give me one sec here. I got it. Let's go. Hello there, gang, from Luxembourg. We just got an FBI update on the drone situation in New Jersey. Let's talk about it. The TLDR, they found no evidence of maliciously operating drones, drones in any restricted airspace, etc. And I found that most, if not all the reports from the public are, in fact,

regular commercial aircraft. It's what we've been saying all along. And I got a surprising amount of flack and pushback on social media. And yet virtually every video, I saw on Twitter, on X, on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, everywhere was all of conventional commercial aircraft. It's like the public looked up to the first time and has never seen airplanes fly overhead at night before. In half the videos, you could hear the engines. You could see the red and green wingtip lights, the navigation lights, the pilot lights, everything. And I think it's such an

illustrative example of where we are in 2024 in terms of public perception. news media reporting, critical thinking skills, and social media speculation and proliferation. The first drone reports came out on social media right around November 18th. They very quickly went viral. People hear drones these days, they immediately think foreign adversaries and scary technology. And in the last week of November, over New Jersey, it was pretty foggy, and it became very easy for regular commercial aircraft taking off and landing from LaGuardia, JFK Newark, three of the busiest airports in the country around the busiest airspace in the country and the biggest city in the country to resemble through the fog drones. And the issue these days is that if you tell people

to notice something ordinary that they otherwise overlook and give them an extraordinary explanation, people are unfortunately gullible enough to believe it. It's exemplary where we are with critical thinking these days. It's unfortunate that fewer folks are questioning reality. or questioning what they see in social media and ascertaining whether or not it's part of our shared objective reality. It was amazing to see how many people would post videos of regular airplanes, but were deluded into believing these social media hype tales. It's an example of mass hysteria that we haven't really seen the likes of. This widespread since 1954, April of 54 back in Washington State,

when we had the pitted windshield crisis, when people were told, that their windshields might be pitted due to bomb testing. Well, it turned out that most people had pitted windshields from normal wear and tear, and yet everybody got involved. Department of Homeland Security, local officials, police, everybody way back then. And we saw it again this time too. The number of politicians who would go on the news and say, hey, we're hearing from constituents, something's going on,

looking for answers, just two peas are constituents. the number of media outlets, including outlets that I've either applied to or worked for before, who were perpetuating shoddy journalism, who were conducting a lack of journalism, pushing forward stories without any investigation. There was one that went on Fox News that interviewed only, I think it was a makeup artist, about whether or not aliens were flying over her house. No drone pilots, no commercial pilots, no FAA, aviation. aviation officials, nobody was interviewed for that. The number of national entities, I think every

major network I saw showed B-roll of airplanes flying overhead and narrated over it saying there were drone sightings. It's disappointing to see that outlets that pride themselves in stringent reporting standards when it comes to politics have next to no reporting standards when it comes to science or anything science adjacent. And believe me, I've seen this before. I've worked in TV. I've worked in many different news outlets. I know that when there's a story that has to do with science, reporting regulations are sort of relaxed because people don't have any scientific literacy. It's where we are in the United States in 2024. And this sort of thing will only get worse. There are multiple things that need to happen here. Number one, people need to be able to differentiate

and they won't be able to, but the American public needs to be able to differentiate between social media hype and objective reality. That will never happen. And it's going to get way worse. And in the next five to ten years, we're going to lose our objective reality. Number two, media outlets need to begin raising the standards for scientific journalism or science adjacent journalism. They haven't done that. It's frustrating to see. so many reporters, so many media personnel are so overworked that when it comes to fact-checking something outside their area of expertise, and unfortunately science is outside of most general asylum reporters area of expertise, they don't have the time, the resources, or the energy

to do so. And number three, there needs to be some level of cultural acceptance that the phrase, we don't know yet, but we're looking for an answer, is okay. So many politicians jumped the gun. So many news media jumped the gun calling drone sightings or drone reports. Dron sightings. Those are two different things. A report of a drone is very different from a drone spotted.

It's just like if Jim Bob says that there's a tornado, that doesn't mean there's a tornado. It means that the National Weather Service, an authority has to go out and determine whether or not there was a tornado. And oftentimes there wasn't. A scary looking cloud isn't a tornado, the same way that a blinking light in the sky, is not necessarily a drone.

Like we said, this is very reminiscent of past examples of mass hysteria. It's made worse by social media. It's the conclusion of weeks' worth of speculation. And this was the first time I could remember seeing collectively the news media do such a poor job in even attempting to cover anything scientifically. This will happen again many times in the future. This will become a routine occurrence in the next five years. 10 years from now, even the news media will have a very difficult time

differentiating between fact and fiction, or conspiracy and truth, especially if we don't have more scientists taking an active role in the media. So, yeah, that's what I have to say about that. Not that you asked, but in any case, the FBI is out with their statement. We have the answer, and the answer is that most, if not all, the drone sightings where people discovering commercial aircraft for the first time. People's minds are absolutely malleable to whatever they see on social media.

And unfortunately, most of what they see on social media is bonus. Until scientific literacy becomes a thing in the United States, which it won't, then we're going to see a lot more conspiracy theorists emerge, a lot more fun social media lies that are given lives of their own, and a lot more people who cannot differentiate fact from fantasy. All right. Wow, I look very pale. Sorry, guys.

My lighting is terrible in here. What did you think of that? What did you think of that? I'm going to go up in the chat here. James Craig says I like this guy already. All right. Ian Smith, this guy is clearly an idiot. Oh, man.

I hope the aliens have better. technology. Let me see here. Well, I'm glad he figured the whole thing out for us, Kenzo says. Dalen, who is this mouthy fella? What are his credentials? Oh, man. To be fair, I saw a lot of helicopters and jets. There were plenty of other drones. Reminds me of what's happening in Colorado some years ago. Jay Allen says, where there's smoke, there's a bacon, says the biologist. This guy should team up with Neil deGrasse Tyson. Cosby says he says from thousands of miles away. I do agree with that. Like, how are you going to make this determination when you're not even there in New Jersey experiencing this? I do believe that a lot of the sightings, there have been a few law enforcement and news reporters who went out and the witnesses are like, there's the drone, there's the drone.

and it turns out to be an airplane. And people are just not used to looking at airplanes at nighttime when it's foggy and maybe it's like a small freighter airplane or something. And they're just not used to seeing that. So they think it's a drone. So there you go. But it clearly cannot be, he said most, if not all of these, have been mistaken. I definitely don't agree with that.

I've spoken to several witnesses who've seen drones. All right. So he did mention in there, like, the news is being very irresponsible about this. I understand what he's saying. Like, there's very little research being done before just putting these stories out there. And he said they really need to be like interviewing drone pilots and whatnot. Well, they did. and I have a clip for you about her drone pilot and what they have to say about all this.

This comes from Cuomo over at News Nation. I'm going to play that in just a moment. But before we do that, I am going to bring Suzanne in to start to talk about this because I want to get her gut reaction to that. Like the video I just played, she was shaking her head violently. Almost the moment it started. So let's bring her in without further ado. There she is. Welcome back.

Hi, how are you? I'm doing fantastic. I'm in the holiday mood. I'm ready to get droney. So what do you think of our newfound friend, Matthew Capuchino? I almost said, cappuccino. We can call him that. Everybody will know who he is. I love it. So what do you think about his determinations of the New Jersey drone invasion? Well, it must be really nice to be the smartest person on social media and so self-confident that you don't even bother to share the videos that you're looking at. And hard to stomach that because some of us are actually doing the research and sifting what is clearly a man-operated drone, person-operated drone versus these other crazy things making infinity symbols in the sky. And I don't

know what he's looking at. Interesting to me that he took it down because I'm sure he got bombarded with some of the things that you and I are not, they're clearly not understandable objects about from what we know right now, right? I mean, they may end up being that, but I don't know anyone who can tell us that. And certainly the government's not telling us that. Yeah. So, I mean, the reason I wanted to play that video was not to get people riled up or because I fully believe everything this guy.

said. But I think it's very important to look at this from an outside perspective. And someone who does have some experience with like meteorological. Yes, that's the word, right? Wow, good job. Yeah, right. We've had lots of them already. Yeah. I think it's important to get someone like him when it comes to like weather anomalies in terms of UFOs, like, unidentified. identified aerial phenomena. But when we're dealing with drones, like he himself is not a drone pilot. He's not a manufacturer of, you know, these things we put up in the sky. So like, and he also doesn't live in New Jersey and he's not out there in real time, like seeing these things, like so many people have. And I do wonder if that's a reason why he took this down, because maybe he was a little too

quick to rush to judgment on a lot of this. A lot of these videos we're going to play, kind of play into that. There are certain aspects I agree with him on. And that's the news media running with things that they don't necessarily have vetted or have proven or anything like that. But for every one of those, there are news outlets that are putting in the work in a time and the effort. And, you know, say what you want about News Nation. I know a lot of people think they're just like some sensational UFO shill sort of channel or whatnot. But they actually did the work. And I You have a clip here from the Cuomo show again. No judgment here.

I know a lot of people. I know a fan of Cuomo. But he did bring in a drone pilot to talk about this. So I guess, do you mind if I just play that? And we'll talk a little bit about that. Cool. I think I'm going to have to do that thing where I upload it. So give me one sec here, guys.

Because for some reason, this is what I love. I did all this prep. I got all the videos ready, locked and loaded. and then they don't work. My whole video, yeah, my whole video of counter videos to the government's official statements, it didn't even go. You know, I mean, Facebook, messenger's not even saying things don't go. People don't know they're not getting what they need.

Yeah, something weird is going on with Facebook. Yeah. Yeah. Could it be drone related? Could it be? Could it be? All right, I found the video. So let's give this a watch.

All right. Wouldn't it be nice if that's what we heard out of the White House? You know what I'm saying? And look, I don't think that the congressman, I think the congressman was a straight shooter there. I just think that there's a little bit more capability and a little bit more concern and a little bit more ease in doing this than's being suggested. How do I know? You're about to find out how. Joining me now is News Nation national security contributor Tracy Walder.

We have her very often using her CIA expertise to help us understand cases, but she was also a drone pilot. Okay. So pretty good credential for tonight. and News Nation Special correspondent Ross Colthard, who spends so much time talking to sources on the inside about exactly these kinds of capabilities. He's got a great special that you're going to want to see tomorrow night called drones over New Jersey. It's good to have both of you. Now, I don't have any problem with what the congressman just said. I think he did a better job than most people in government I've heard.

But Tracy, some of these are big these drones, like too big to be something that you're buying commercially. And I don't think it's absurd to think that you'd have to run across. a field to track them to know where they're landing. I mean, they caught the Chinese guy, right, that they just found at the airport. Right, you're absolutely right, Chris. Thank you so much for having me. And I actually wholeheartedly agree with the congressman. One of the things that sort of piqued my interest about this is he talked about that Picatinny Arsenal that's close by, as well as McGuire Air Force Base. One of the things that they recently did this past summer is successfully tested battery-powered fixed-wing aircraft to deliver cargo being bases. And it is a

larger type of drone. It looks very much like an airplane, but obviously is a bit smaller. And so part of me wonders, this could be what individuals are seeing. But to your point, obviously, as someone who worked in, I guess, the depths of our government at the CIA, you know, I get it. When you feel that the government is not being forthcoming and not being honest, I don't believe these are a threat, it's scary. And I do think they need to come clean with American people about what these are. One pushback. I have so much tremendous respect for the amount of expertise you developed to be at the CIA. And I'm not a cynic about government. We need transparency, but I think it's amazing what you were able to do for this country. And I appreciate you for it. I just feel like this is, I want your gut

before I go to Ross on, I feel like they have to know more, either because they're doing it or because they know what it is. And they're just saying, yeah, there's nothing to it. But I think the people have move past accepting that kind of answer. I could not agree with you more. I wholeheartedly agree that they know more about what these are and are just electing not to tell us. But I really do think that we have sort of moved past that mentality of people, I guess being okay with it. You know, when I started the CIA in 2000, that was an acceptable excuse.

Hey, it's not a threat. Let's just move on. And people really did accept that. But we're not at that place right now. people have a lot of distrust in the government, and I do understand why. And I really do think that, look, I get that we shouldn't be giving sort of the top secret intricacies of what this is, but I do think the government needs to give more information. Yeah, Ross, I mean, I see this as such an opportunity for them. I see it as a metaphor. Like, you know, this is the same guy,

Majorcas, who say, no big deal. It's the same thing he said about the border at the Department of Homeland Security. Submarine just completely exploded the Biden administration's credibility on a very major issue. And this is such a great opportunity for them to say one of the two things. We got people like Walder work in here. We know exactly what this is. Certain things you need to know, certain things you don't. Or we don't know. We don't know what some of these things are. And we're going to find out because we see what you're seeing. And who's ever doing this? We're saying we're putting a moratorium. You better stop. And if you don't, we're going to catch you like we did the Chinese guy. What do you think from your sources?

Firstly, good evening, Chris. Look, I have to say I vehemently disagree with any assertion that either the FBI or the Defence Department have any idea, any clear idea what this phenomenon is over the East Coast of the United States. I'm talking to people in the FBI who are utterly baffled by this phenomenon. They tell me they do not know what these objects are. They're not getting answers. I'm told, for example, that these objects are the size of an SUV, a large SUV.

So the argument from the Congressman that these objects are too small to detect is not correct at all. I'm told that there have been attempts to interdict these objects and that there have been the deployment of anti-dron technology. I've just received information in the last few minutes about the PSEG nuclear site at Salem, which is the Hope Creek generating station on a 740-acre 8 site in Salem County, New Jersey. And a person who is privileged enough to have access to the internal messaging about that nuclear station has told me that they tried to deploy an anti-dron technology over multiple drones that were seen over the nuclear site and that anti-drone technology which normally works on all drones completely failed. Moreover, these objects, whatever they are, are being seen not just on the East Coast.

They are being seen all over the world. I'm getting reports from here in Australia, from Japan, Indonesia, China, Russia, Europe. Okay. Yep. So, what do you think? I don't know. Here's what I think. I don't think you would see things like the governors and the mayors of these Eastern

seaboard areas being invaded, saying what they're saying so aggressively. I'm sure many of you saw, this thing if I can find my note here. I think it was in New Jersey, the fire departments, or, you know, over the state, not like the local fire departments, but the big fire department issued a statement saying, don't get within 300 yards of these things and don't shoot at them because they might have nuclear capabilities. We don't know what they are. You need to wear full PPE and SCBA gear. Evacuate immediately.

I just think if they knew what it was, they would not take the opportunities to say things like that, which can be scary for a population, right? Yeah. You know what? It just made me remember. Remember like two months ago where that manual came out for law enforcement

throughout the U.S. about UAT? Yes. With the procedures. It makes me feel like they knew something like this was going to happen and now they're like utterly lost in how to deal with it. Like here's

the thing, I do think a lot of people, law enforcement included, are mistaken planes for drones. And other people are mistaking drones as UFOs, UAP, alien flying saucers. I see a lot of people in here in the chat who don't like Ross Colthard and his thoughts on this specific thing we're talking about now that he believes that some of them might be genuine UAP as well.

I don't know. Nobody knows because we're being left in the dark by the penitentiary. The next clip I'm going to play for you guys is John Kirby at the Pentagon getting pretty heated. Like it's a pretty heated exchange. I'm sure you've seen the clip. But that is the one I do want to play next for everyone. Do you have anything else to add to the one we just watched before we move on here? I don't think so.

But I think when you watch bright brains like that in conflict, then I think there is something to see. There is something to see. So, you know, there is substance. there that is watchable and notable, even though they don't agree and the fact that they don't agree. It's like when two lawyers really disagree on how a law is applied, pay attention. Yeah. Something's wrong. That's a very good point. Very, very good point. Yes. Okay. So let's hear from the Pentagon about all this. And this is where things get like conundrumy for me, because I'm like, you're saying this, but then this. Oh, yeah. So,

So let me pull that up. I got to do this thing where I go find it. Yeah, you fish around while I make a comment about the first guy. The chat is still trying to process him. A capuchin. I think also that's not very helpful. We've spent 80 years listening to, oh, that's Venus. Oh, it's this, that, or the other, whatever it is.

And it's not helpful, especially to those in our crowd who are processing this information on a regular basis. It's also, I don't think, very helpful to a populace that's so different today from the 1947 Roswell incident. We all have a camera or a video cam in our pockets. We all have data right in our hands. You cannot say those kinds of things to this populace and this circumstance and have it be appreciated. That's fair. That's totally fair. Yeah. Like, again, there were certain things that I'm like, hmm, he makes a good point. And then it was immediately negated by like the smugness and like right it states has a science uh illiterate ish problem and again maybe we do like maybe maybe there's some truth to that and social media does not help

the situation i'm so sick i'm so sick of i'll just say it these account these UFO anonymous UFO accounts on twitter who are posting the dumbest video of clearly a drone or clearly a plane and saying like, oh my God, it's a ship from Zeta reticuli or like, it just doesn't help the situation. But neither does what Mr. Capucci was saying too. God, this is what this is causing. It's causing like just a huge mess.

And it all that mess, Suzanne, in my opinion, comes from the top. And that's the gun. So let's let's play. the clip and I want to get your thoughts on the what's going on to the Pentagon and all this because my God. I know it. How do I do this again? Sorry, guys.

Whoops. I accidentally almost invited everyone into the live stream. You guys were all going to make a thing. We should do that. We should do that sometime. It would be fun. All right. Here we go.

Here's John Kirby at the Pentagon. John, on the drones, does the U.S. government have any of its own imagery or video of these systems? I'm not aware that we have U.S. government produced imagery ourselves. But as I said in my opening statement, we have certainly done thorough analysis of the existing imagery. like from people's cell phones that we're seeing. Basically, with what you're looking at, how can you credibly tell people that there is no public safety threat? There's no national security threat,

that there's no reason to believe that a foreign government is involved? Because the analysis thus far, in an investigation that is ongoing, has not revealed any national security or malicious intent or criminal activity. But, Jackie, I would remind you, we're at the beginning here, not the end. there's a lot more work to be done and we're working closely with state and local authorities

to gain more information. I would argue that we're moving pretty well here with a sense of energy to try to figure out what we can do to learn more about this. We're still in the middle of an ongoing investigation and I'm up here explaining to you and let you know what we know so far, what we believe so far.

If information comes to light that changes that characterization, and my goodness, we'll be the first ones to let you know. But right now, there's just no indication that this is some sort of foreign-the-line activity or, in fact, even criminal. Well, what I don't understand is, you know, this has been happening since late November. I don't know that the law enforcement officials or residents in New York and New Jersey or even the Democratic senators who wrote to Director Ray, Majorcas, and the FAA administrator today would think that this has...

been handled with a sense of urgency. But that being said, has the president or the Secretary of Defense issued any guidance to Northcom or military installations to act on these systems if they are deemed to be threatened anyway? And what's the benchmark for that determination? So two thoughts. First of all, you're right late November. It is now, what, the 12th of December. So I think it shows that we're moving on with this and we're going to stay on it.

So I want to disabuse you of any notion that we're not taking this seriously because we are. I can also tell you that if the president as commander-in-chief believed, based on the information that he'd been given, that there was a national security threat at play here, or even a public safety threat at play here, he would issue the appropriate directives to not only law enforcement, but perhaps even the military if that was needed. I want to go back to something I said at the top. There has been no evidence of any of this activity in or near restricted spaces. That's not what the Senator said in the letter. They said, in fact, that they've been observed maneuvering their critical infrastructure,

sensitive locations, including reservoirs and military installations, and said concern from law enforcement about public safety threats because a medevac helicopter was provided from transporting a seriously injured patient for air because of the presence of these drones. I stand by my opening statement. Can you make that make more sense? Because I think people in New York and New Jersey see drones, a satin, SUV over their house every night and think that that doesn't make any sense.

Certainly I understand why people would be looking at this and being concerned about it. We're concerned about it too, which is why we have the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI. My goodness, looking at this and we're taking it seriously. We understand that people are concerned. We understand it. They got questions. We got questions, too. And we're working hard to get the answers to that.

What I can tell you as we sit here today, you know, at 216 in the afternoon on the 12th, is we haven't seen any indication thus far that there's a public safety risk. And we haven't seen... We don't know what they are. We are still investigating this. I can't tell you definitively. I cannot characterize for you definitively what these sightings are. I can just go back to what I said at the opening.

We've looked at the imagery. We can't corroborate some of the reported sightings through our own. expert analysis using sophisticated detection techniques, but that doesn't mean that, you know, we're putting our pen down here this afternoon and calling in a day. We're going to keep at this. We are continuing to investigate it, as I said, in my opening statement, to federal agencies, as well as the United States Coast Guard and state and local law enforcement officials, which we are staying in close touch with. We cannot be that stupid for that long.

Make this make sense to me. I've loved that. that line. I want to make a t-shirt. Well done. Well done by that journalist. And you know, and the reason I say you can't be that stupid for that long is we really don't have government video and photos. They're not

videoing and capturing this. They cannot be that stupid for that long. It is not reasonable to think that that's the truth. In fact, Northern Command, did you see that yesterday? Northern Command said, we don't know what it is. Me paraphrasing, obviously.

And they haven't asked us for help. You know, I guess they're over there, you know, twiddling their thumbs because it is an issue of who's in charge and who can step in, but only at the invitation of another agency. And so Northern Combs just sitting there, sitting there. Tritling their thumbs. Yep. You know, bizarre. Very bizarre. And, you know, we hear things that like the UFO hearing, right, of like we have the most. sophisticated geospatial satellite sensor systems out there.

Someone in the chat said they can look at the label on your shirt. Of course they can. One of these sorts of things. From that perspective. Yeah. And you can't tell me that you don't know what's going on. And then the question, it begs the question, is something going on? Or is this mass hysteria?

And there's like three or four commercial drones out there and everyone's blowing it up. People are posting fake videos of things. The one that really bothered me was these people recording their radios and saying some weird alien signal was coming through. I'm like, guys, stop. Everybody stop. And let's don't shoot at these things either. You know, let's stop all that foolishness. Don't shoot at them.

The alien radio signal thing, like, it's bullshit. I'm just going to say it. That's what it is. And to those of you on Twitter sharing those things, shame on it. Cut it out. Shamed it out. Yeah. We're trying to get to the bottom of this, not make things more murky.

Right. You know, and what's going on with the Coast Guard? The Coast Guard, by the way, is not covered by the Positicomatitis Act, which is what's controlling all these other agencies saying they don't have the authority that they need. And we can talk about that a little bit later, but that didn't apply to the Coast Guard, which operates under maritime law. And the Coast Guard is telling everyone officially that there were 12 drones trailing. vehicles off the New England coast and that 50 drones were coming in from the ocean. And the Coast Guards are picking all this up. And that the Coast Guard somehow lack the ability to shoot them down.

So none of this makes sense. None of this makes sense. Make it make sense to me. Make it make sense to me. Oh, man. I could have watched those to go at it forever. Who didn't stopping? Was she good for her?

Because I'm sure there's price to pay. you know, when you torture. Oh, for sure. She's not. Either he's going to get fired or she's never allowed back in the press room. She's never going to know the question, so I'm glad she got those. But good for her. Good for her.

I appreciate the persistence. Exactly. So, okay, let's talk a little bit about the way that local government and stuff in New Jersey is dealing with this. I have, I think, let's play the video first. And then I have a statement from. one of the counties in New Jersey about how the officials are handling this. And if you can probably assume, they don't think they're handling it very well.

But let's play this. I don't have the name of this representative. So I do apologize, guys. I'm really important for you. Okay. I thought this is a pretty interesting sort of rebuttal to what the Pentagon is officially saying. And how a press conference was dealt with in New Jersey, when these reps from all over the state, we're going to hear from officials from Homeland Security, things like that,

about what's going on? What do we tell our people? What do we tell our constituents about these things in the skies? And this was his response after leaving that brief one. So this is hilarious. Let's see if this one works. No, it's not. Okay, so I'm going to have to pull it up. The anticipation is killing me. Where did it go? I love this one. I walked out because it was worthless. It was the biggest amateur hour presentation I've ever seen at anything. It was ridiculous.

There were no answers. Every question that was asked by a member of the state legislature of great questions, no answers, no resolution. They don't know where the drones are coming from. They don't know who's doing it. They don't know why they're doing it. But they say there's no credible threat. It was annoying to be there. I drove two hours to be here today.

Spend an hour in there. I've got to drive two hours back. the biggest waste of five hours in my entire life. So why do you think they called this meeting? I have no idea. Why would you call me to tell people you don't know anything? I have no idea. And then when the legislators would ask questions,

there were no answers. Here's the most frustrating part. The Colonel of the State Police said that he had a helicopter of his flying over above one of these drones, a six-foot drone or something I can't remember exactly what he said. And he just felt unsafe for his helicopter, so he just let it go. Just let it go.

Where did it go? Who knows? You know, didn't want to follow it because you didn't feel safe. Is that not the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard? I mean, honestly. Do they have any idea where these drones are originating? No, they don't. They would.

Maybe if they follow that sucker when it landed, they would know. But they don't. This is a complete lack of effort, in my opinion. I'm trying to figure this out. This is not about ability. We have the technology. We have the people. We have the training.

We have the resources. We have the money. It's just a lack of effort. I mean, they should. I don't know. I don't know. They should be saying, you know what they should have done today. with productive use of our time, if they didn't know anything, come in there and say, hey,

legislators, we don't know anything. But if you get us these 10 things, do these 10 things for us, and the governor calls in this kind of action, we can figure it out. Will you help us? And then we would have helped them. But instead, it was just excuse after excuse and we know nothing. It was infuriating. And I got up and I walked out.

You've been in a service, right? Yeah, I was an attack helicopter pilot, Apache helicopter pilot in the Army. And I helped stand up the initial unmanned aircraft training battalion. the aviation sector of the Army. So I know a little bit about what I'm talking about. And these guys are not doing the job they need to do to figure out what's going on. And that is the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI, and the state police. And they're saying no threat to Americans.

They're saying no threat, but how the hell do they know? They don't know anything. They don't know what it is. They don't know where it come from. They don't know nothing. When I walked in here today, I was actually pretty calm. I was excited to be here to find out a couple things. I thought they'd be like, hey, listen, it's FedEx, trying to figure out.

but instead I got the most ridiculous amateur hour briefing I've ever sat through. Oh my God. I know. It's ridiculous. It's an amateur hour up in here. Let me tell you. Oh, God, I miss New York so, so much. I know.

And this is that a public example of why this is not going to work this time. The populace has gotten too sophisticated, too educated, too educated. They're too armed with videos and cameras. It is not going to work like that. And neither is in a logical conclusion like, no, we don't know what they are, but there's no threat. There's no threat. It's flying over Trump's house. They're flying over the White House last night.

You know, they're over Langley and various other military places. They're over our nuclear sites in North or South Carolina. I can't remember which one and other places. It is not reasonable to say there is not a threat there. There may not ultimately be, but they do not have what they need. right now to make that claim. Exactly. This could be the quote of the night by all work, Lope. This should have been in an email. Exactly. Because then we could have just hit delete and not worried with him. I love that whole meme of like, we could have just done this through an email.

Yeah. He just text that. Yeah. Skycraft. This guy's an Apache helicopter pilot. Exactly. There was, I want to shout out someone who I saw here. Hello from Osaka. of all places. Darren Vickers, supposedly there are drone sightings here in Japan as well. So again, like we're going global with this at this point. Hello to Darren. I was watching some of those in Japan earlier in the week. It's pretty spectacular stuff. And I wondered if you guys saw the one where when one of the government officials said, well, that's just Venus. I'm so tired of hearing. That's just Venus. So this guy goes out with this extremely high-tech telescope.

and computerized system. And he points it on the object. And he has the ability on his screen to put like a red line. Like, you know, where my pen is, that's, then my head would be Venus or, you know, the object. And this stays stationary. And then this thing goes. It moves. Yeah.

It's not Venus. Venus be corkscrewing guys. Right. The guy's like, don't make me get my stuff out and prove that you're a dummy. Because I'm getting ready to do it. So, okay, here's my problem with videos. Like, not that one. That one with standing.

Right. With everyone sharing these videos of drone footage or UAP footage online and everything, like there's one thing that I can always agree with Mick Weston. And that's cool video. When did it happen? Where did it happen? Where is the raw data? Like, what do they call that stuff?

Metadata. Yeah, metadata. Yeah. Like, I... Authenticate what you take? Yeah, you can post a video all you want, guys, of the drones in New Jersey or Osaka or these UAP doing things. But like, without any sort of idea of location time, any of that, like, what are we supposed to do with it? We stare at it and we scroll on.

Right. So if anyone out there, here's our public service announcement. If this New Jersey drone invasion is happening, you're in New Jersey, you're filming these things. time stamp it, do something. Even in the audio, as you're watching it, like tell us where you are, what time it is, what's going on. Put some reference things in there, a tree, so we know how low the object is.

We need some. Any phone will tell you what your longitude and latitude is and what your directional focus is. And then you've authenticated. And then you've authenticated. But your date, you know, you're done. Yeah. I blame officialdom for a lot of the murkiness to all of this,

but I do blame the public too. I think they could be doing a better job. And social media has utterly, utterly slaughtered any chance of all of this coming to any conclusion. Yeah, yeah. But there's some scary stuff. It's not like they just put out disinformation. They put some scary things out there. For sure.

They're not helpful either. It's not helpful. We don't need to be scared right now. We need to focus and think. Focusing these are critical things. I will give it to Mr. Capuchino. Use our critical thinking skills to watch what's happening and document what's happening. And then back off.

You don't have to necessarily get to the conclusion. Exactly. Yeah. And it might take some time. So I do agree with the Pentagon on that. Like he said, we're at the start of the investigation, not the conclusion. I understand. Like these things can take time.

If they want to come to a firm conclusion and solve this problem, it could take some time. But you cannot tell me that like it's not happening and that like you don't know something. And that it's Starlinked or Venus. Just stop because this is how you get us to scoff at you and walk away. Yeah. And you cannot tell the public that it's not a threat if you don't know what it is. It is. That's the worst.

Surely there's a lawyer among you that can help you not say stupid stuff, you know. Someone off. He needs a Susan Gall. He'll come over there. I will come over there. Suzanne will do it. She'll do it. This was interesting. So this was a response by the Warren County Police Chiefs Association. Let me see if I can make it a little bigger. The Warren County Chiefs Association would like to address the Warren County residents on the recent drone activity. Since the middle of November, we've seen on multitude.

of drones flying over the over critical infrastructure homes and businesses here in Warren County. Police have taken your calls for concerns and honestly have not been able to provide a sufficient answer to ease your minds. We assure you that the police community is just as frustrated with the lack of transparency from the federal and state officials. We have been asked by federal and state officials to complete a survey questionnaire for every drone setting and have complied with those requests. We are shocked by the lack of response or update from federal and state officials.

We do not agree with the response and there is no known threat to the public at this time with the response that there is no known threat. It is our stance that just the unidentified drone flying over us is a threat in itself. Ah, man. And they demand answers. I won't go through the rest of it. But, I mean, that is pretty telling you. That's an appropriate response.

That's an appropriate, believable response. It seems to me to be based in logic as opposed to don't look here. It's nothing. We're all good. Don't look up. Don't look up. And, you know, a lot of people are looking up for the first time and they're seeing these things. And like we've said a million times tonight, some of them are planes.

Some of them are drones. Some of them are your Amazon packages getting dropped off before Christmas. But clearly that's not all of it. going on and we just don't know. Suzanne, there's one more video I want to play for you about drones. And it comes from none other than the creator of Arrow herself, Kirsten Gillibrand, and she has commented finally on the whole drone thing. So I'm going to go ahead and play that clip and then we'll close out the drone zone.

How's that sound? Again. Yeah, again for the third week in a row. I know. They keep pulling us back in. They do. They do. Let me find the video.

Here it is. You've asked the FBI and the Homeland Security Department of Brief Congress. What do we know so far? What do you know about the drones that you can share? Well, Andrea, we know very little about these drones, which is the problem. We don't know who is sending them, who's controlling them, whether they are spying, whether they are citing targets for future action. we have no idea the purpose of these drones, who's controlling them, and whether they are putting the American people at risk. The Pentagon is denied a claim made by a Republican New Jersey congressman that, quote, an Iranian mothership is behind these drones.

That does seem a little far-fetched? Does it easier concerns that they say that there's nothing to that? Well, I wouldn't say that either, Andrea. We've had drone incursions over Langley. for two weeks in a row and did not see them coming, did not know where they were from, and who was operating them. They're using technology in some of these instances that are unfamiliar. The size of these drones are unusual.

It's a size that is not commercially available or at least readily commercially available. So there's a lot of questions about these UAS. It's important that we look at the laws because right now some of them are flying over airspace above homes, above schools, above communities. And there's no direct law that denies them to do that. So we need to look at our laws.

We need to reform them. We should be able to know their purview, who's controlling them at all times. If it's a foreign adversary flying over places throughout the United States is illegal. It is something that we can do something about. I'm working with Senator Cotton right now on legislation that when these drone incursions take place over military. bases or nuclear sites or sensitive areas that the DoD will have the authority to take them down. My letter to the FAA and to Homeland Security and to the FBI is asking, what are you doing?

Are you going to follow the drones to find out where they're coming from? If there are ships off the coast that are launching these drones, we need to know who is controlling those ships, whether they're foreign adversaries. We know, Andrea, that Iran, that China, that Russia have extremely sophisticated drone capabilities. We've seen drones used as a weapon of war in Ukraine. And so these are the reasons why I have high concerns and I'm quite dissatisfied by the response by Homeland Security FBI and FAA to my request that we need to have answers. They need to know where these drones are coming from. And we cannot simply say, well, they're not causing any harm. Well, do we know that? What are they doing?

and who's sending them. So when you have even Gila Brand weighing in and saying the same damn thing, like, how do we know it's not a threat? Or why don't we just go follow them? Like, it just like, it boggles my mind that we can have like a Senate hearing with a UAP investigation group. And then a week later, we have supposed drones over New Jersey and the government is acting like they've never dealt with something like this before and like they're amateurs like

that new jersey rep said i just it stretches it stretches believability it stretches believability and i i just don't believe that they don't have video and satellite imagery and stuff from their own drone systems i just don't believe them i don't think it's reasonable i don't i just don't think it's reasonable. It's a joke. It's a, what do they call it? It's a comedy. It's like a true comedy happening right now. I am hickaming like crazy. I blame the beer. But I don't know. I don't know. Like if you had told me a month ago that you and I were going to be doing three weeks of live streams talking primarily about drones, I would have laughed at you. But here we are. And it's the end of the year and this is what's happening. Will this continue into the new year? None of us truly

know. But I think the answer is probably yes. And for them to focus on the prosaic, not helpful. Not helpful. We can look and see what a man-made drone looks like. I know some of them are military grade or whatever, and we might not know exactly what that looks like. But they're not luminous orbs. They're not making crazy figure eights in the sky. They're not coming up out of the water. You know, so they need to focus where they need to focus and stop talking about the prosaic. Yeah. If these things are, they need to be launched from somewhere, like Jilla Brand said. So let's find where they were launched from. It's reverse engineering at its finest. drone here. Let's see where it came from.

Let's follow the data and let's go find where they're coming from. If you said they're coming in from the water, they go look, not in the water, but on the water. Not saying these are U.S.Os, but it could be. It could be. Who knows? But, oh, God. We can talk in circles forever about all of this. The fact of the matter is the reason we're talking in circles about it is because of the lack of transparency. the way it's being handled from above, and how stupid they think the public are. And how stupid the public is acting in many instances as well.

Right. Yes, Robodein out there with his shotgun, you know, let's don't do that. What if they do have some kind of nuclear propulsion or, you know, you could end up doing something just horrible accidentally because you want to see what this is. Not a good idea. Not a good idea, but then our government needs to act like it is in control because I know everyone remembers after the Soul Symposium, us talking about the social contract between a government and the people. And that when the people who are willing on their end of the bargain to follow the rules and laws of the government come to realize the government cannot do its end of the bargain,

which is to protect us and take care of us, then you get real trouble. And I submit you get people shooting shotguns at drones that might be nuclear or worse. And so the damage that they are actually doing to that important social contract has begun. When they act this way, when they say these things, they're doing damage. They're doing damage. Yeah. Oh, man. Bad idea.

Bad idea. They need a good damage control person up in there. That's for sure. They got to get that woman from scandal. Remember that show? They got to get her in there and clean up this mess for sure. Exactly. They need somebody.

Oh, man. Who is in charge with the locals saying, we don't have the authority. And Coast Guard's like, we don't have the authority. And Northcom's like, well, we're twiddling our thumbs. You know, we don't know. Nobody's asked us to do it. What in the world, people? Focus.

Focus. Focus. I know it's the end of the year. Everyone's tired. I know you have speeding ticket quotas to meet. But like, focus. Let's go, guys. Focus. Let's get this wrapped up before I go back to the East Coast and go back to New York.

Because I don't want to be seeing them drones over my head. If I see them, I'll let you know the time, the date, and everything. You're welcome, Mick West. I love Mick. I love him for all his, yeah. Anyways, all right, Suzanne, I'm going to let you go back to the chat. because I feel like I've been ignoring you guys. I apologize.

This is what happens when Suzanne comes on. We just chat forever. They're so good. They're doing well. They're doing so well. I don't think I shut it out. Thank you so much, James Craig. Forget the new microphone.

Get a drone detector. I love that. Thank you so much, buddy. I truly appreciate that. So I will let you go, Susan. But if anyone wants to follow you, where can they find you if you didn't find it? Suzanne Westerman Landers on Facebook and see Suzanne Landers on Twitter. And that's where I am primarily.

I'm also on Instagram and Blue Sky. But I live on Facebook and Twitter. So find me there. And feel free to message me. Absolutely. And you're always killing it in the Facebook group to you. So thank you for that. I thought it all week.

I don't know what was going on with Facebook. But my gosh. They're a mess right now. It's the drones. It's the drones. I know. All right. Suzanne, thank you so much for joining us again.

Okay. I'll see you in the chat. All right, guys. She's the best. She's the best. Thank you for joining us in the drone zone, but don't go anywhere. Because I've got three clips for my recent interview with filmmaker James Fox, whose brand new documentary, the program comes out tomorrow.

Get ready, y'all. But before we do that, I want to play these clips for you. Then go back and watch the whole interview and get ready for tomorrow. So the first clip I'm going to play for you is something interesting I learned from James Fox. Man, I am hiccuping like crazy. One of the biggest issues with the UFO hearings, both of them so far, has been these Congress members wanting to get in a skiff with these witnesses. To hear possible classified information, more sensitive information,

and just to be in a secure place. And they're denied that. Access to these skiffs. Which baffles me, especially when comments are made like this by James Fox. So I'm going to play this clip for you. Bear with me as I upload it. And we'll keep moving on and moving up, guys.

Hold up one second here. Here we go. but the next day, Kirk McConnell had arranged a meeting with me in a skiff with the new head of Arrow. And there was another gentleman, Air Force Office of Special Investigations, Kevin Ryan, I think his last name was, out of looking at that.

But in any case, John Kosklaowski is the new head of arrow. And I got in there, and I was thinking to myself, like, this is crazy. I'm in a skiff with the head of Arrow. And so I said, hey, you guys, you guys got to throw us a bone here. you know, we're not going away. And sure, the vast majority of these sites can be explained away in conventional terms.

But, you know, there's a residual 10, 15, 20% that clearly defies a conventional explanation and we're probably dealing with non-human intelligence. And nobody scoffed or denied or anything like that. You looked at me and he goes, James, I can't part my own hair without approval from the DOD. and you can quote me on that. And I thought to myself, I thought about that for a while. So basically what he's saying is Congress puts him in charge of digging through the various intelligence agencies and finding out what they know. And yet the DOD, which is part of the executive branch, tells him what he can and cannot say.

So that doesn't seem like a very, really? Why is that? Why is that structured that way? But that's what he said. Just to clarify, did you go into the skiff? I did. I did. I went into the skiff. Yes. Just like in the movies. Yeah. It was crazy. Yeah. And I had to like do a 48 hour background check.

Then I had to go through all this like security metal detector. Then I went through this like glass, like this glass tube thing, almost like in a Star Trek movie where the door opens on one side. And you walk in and it opens on the other side. You walk through. And then I had to get rid of all anything electronic, leave it out in a, on top of a of a little locker and then open the door with buttons

and everything on it oh yeah no cameras no cell phone nothing man boom I'm inside and there are whole operations

for Arrow are inside a skiff and I was so I walked down this hallway and sorry my camera's moving I hate that I need to turn that feature off

but I'm walking on this hallway I'm walking on this hallway with the guy from Air Force Office Special Investigations AFOSI and and he stops to him, you know, wait here and he's doing something.

And to my left, there's a door open and there's a table with like maybe five people sitting at the table talking. And I just couldn't help myself. I just kind of turned over and I started tuning in to what they're saying. They're all sitting down at this table. And then somebody gets off and they walk over and close the door on my face. I was, oh, man. I couldn't help myself. He's like, here, you were here.

I was in there, and look over. Like, I was no, dude, he did. What's being said? And, yeah, it was pretty funny. And then I went into another room with the two of them for, for like 15, 20 minutes, maybe 45 minutes with, the head of arrow hung out for 15, 20 minutes, and he had to go. And then I hung out with the other guy at the Air Force Office Special Investigations. Interesting.

I was asking him about, man. in black who are they what agency are they from are you looking into it you need to look into this case that case like here's where i think you could find something yeah it was pretty cool please tell me you asked about doughty i i did not it's all right next time next time yeah but i do have i do have their i have one of their numbers i text with them wow you know but i saw them you got to throw us a bone you can't we're not going anywhere yeah this is not going to go away. A lot of things could be extrapolated from that clip right there. I mean, James Fox, a filmmaker, a civilian, was in a skiff with the head of error and another person.

And these members of Congress can't get in a skis. I understand it's the content of which is said in the skiff that really matters. And that's where a lot of the issue lay. But it's just crazy. It's crazy to me that like James Fox can go into a skiff and talk to the head of Arrow, but these Congress members can't get information from the witnesses that they had at these hearings. I don't understand. It's also interesting that he said, Olivero, like the office is literally a skiff. Their office is just like that little room, that secure room. That's crazy to me. What else he's saying that one? Oh, that he was like eavesdropping on a nether. room of what was being set in there.

I thought that was pretty funny to you. So yeah, yeah, that was a very interesting clip. And it really surprised me. I did not know any of that. So the next clip I'm going to play for you guys is about something that James Fox will be dropping tomorrow on his Twitter. Not the film, but something he'll be dropping

on his personal Twitter account about a whistleblower that he interviewed in the program, who worked for the program. They will be making an official statement on James Fox's Twitter that will come out, coincide with the release of the film tomorrow. So he talks a little bit about that. So I'm going to go ahead and play that for you guys here. One sec. Bear with me.

Almost there. Hello to the chat. Hello, hello. All right, here we go. I think the anticipation, once again, is killing us all. There's an individual who appears in the film under, it's Navy X. And this individual is putting together a statement. We were going over it just 15, 20 minutes ago anonymously on, it's a very compelling statement.

And it's going to be released on my X account on the day of the film released on the 16th of December, basically explaining, you know, why this individual is doing what he's doing, why he's fearful for his safety, where some of this material is, what this individual has seen, and basically why he's coming forward anonymously. It's very compelling. It's several paragraphs, and it really explains a lot of things within the fear factor that is real, the consequences for violating their security oaths. I guess is real.

And yeah, so it explains a lot of it. And it's frustrating. It's frustrating for filmmakers, myself. It's frustrating for the general public. When you hear all these people telling me, like, I'd go to jail if I told you what I know. Excuse me. It's like, hey, why can't we have a blanket protection somehow?

And really, because if what these people are saying is true, this is the biggest story of the millennium. I mean, ever, really. It's true. It is true. Sorry, I was a. looking on James Fox's Twitter, because I wanted to make sure he hasn't dropped it yet for you guys.

I also wanted Pat asked, will it be on Amazon Prime? I did want to find out here. Yes, yes, it will. So, tomorrow, James Foxes, the program will be available on Apple TV, Amazon Prime, Google Play, Vimeo, Voodoo, Xbox, YouTube, and Fandango. You name it, it'll be available.

So cool. Thank you, Suzanne. that. The last clip I'm going to play for you guys from that interview. Look at this guy. Remember? Remember the whole hubbub. Hubaboo? What do you call that? Hubelub. Scuttle butt. There we go. What the hell is the hubbub? T-shirt idea. T-shirt idea. The hubbub on this UFO. Apparently, James Fox has seen one of the clearest UFO videos ever recorded.

His claim, not mine, and others' claims of Chuck Clark, a UFO researcher who brought this to James Fox. He witnessed it. And somehow it got in the hands of Logan Paul. Logan Paul is a very contentious person.

He's a YouTuber. He's a wrestler. We're not getting into it here. Go back and type in Logan Paul UFO video and check it out, but apparently Logan Paul went and found the person who was in possession. Brew ha ha! Thank you, Jay on Hineken.

A balloon. Oh, man. I've had too much beer. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Looks like a... What was that? Looks like a what? I missed that. A thing of a jig. There we go. Logan Paul took a video without the consent of the person who showed him the UFO video. Logan Paul offered to pay millions of dollars for this video and everything.

So instead, the guy showed the video and Logan Paul had a secret camera on his jacket, and he recorded the video. So shady, so shitty, shady and shitty to do. But he is in possession of that video. So everyone was like, when is he going to put it out? What is he going to put it out? James Fox talked about this on Joe Rogan. Logan Paul has talked about it several times on his own podcast.

And everyone wants to know when will we see the Chuck Clark UFO video, this mythological video that is apparently like astounding. And yeah, James did talk a little bit about the updates on that on my show. So I'm going to go ahead and find that clip for you guys here, and we'll start to close things out for tonight. One sec, turning the volume down because it's ridiculously loud. Okay, here we go. This best video ever.

Is Logan Paul ever going to drop this best video ever on us? What's going on? I had another guy come to my house. He probably wouldn't want me to mention his. name and I can't remember his name right off the bat right here came to this table right there about a year ago something like that maybe less and he has the video and so he showed it to me i said well could i take a video up you know uh-uh and it was very degraded uh and it was edited it seemed like somebody had edited it wasn't a it was it was kind of chopped up and degraded i mean it definitely

showed the disc you know doing the wobble that i remember crystal clear and the paranoia for them inside the car and the light over the top of the car, all that. But it was kind of edited and chopped up and it was really degraded. And I was like, God, this is, and he said that he was going to, he had contacted Chuck Clark and he was going to have it enhanced with the latest software to get rid of all the dropout for preservation purposes. And then I said, okay, well, do you think it'll get released at that point? He goes, well, my first step is to get it enhanced and then we'll see what happened.

So I haven't forgotten about it. I'm still going to try. I won't ever give up on it. It's at one point or another, I'm sure Chuck Clark. Oh, and one more thing I'll say about it is that I went, I was on a tour at a conference, actually with Fade to Black. Oh, Jimmy Church. Yeah, Jimmy Church.

And we were on a conference. We took buses from Las Vegas out to Area 51 as part of the tour. And we got to Little Alien, and we hung out there for the first. three hours we had food and drinks and whatever. And I met the, again, and I've known her for decades, the daughter of the woman who owned it. I think it was Joe and Pat used to own it. Pat's still around. Joe passed.

And Pat's daughter, I talked to her about that footage because Chuck Clark lived like a couple hundred yards away from the little alien in a double wide for probably 20 years. Of course, he had that footage and everybody knew about it. Everyone's seen it. And so I said to her, like, why is this? There's so much secrecy around who shot it. Like, what's the big deal? Why don't they come forward? And we talked, and she was very kind of, she remembered me and knew who I was, but she was

kind of standing off and then she looked at me and she goes, do you really think we're that stupid that we're not going to make a digital copy of it? She thought, there's reasons why that individual didn't come forward. No, she, yeah, there was reasons why and you wouldn't tell me. And I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. But I won't, I haven't given up on it. I haven't given up on going after any footage. Sometimes this stuff takes a while.

I don't know. I don't know. It's true, though. It's true. This stuff takes a while. I saw in the chat, someone asked, has anyone been to the little L.E.N. Suzanne has, and I have as well.

It is a dive, Suzanne. That's for damn sure. I did, I don't know if you guys ever saw it, But I did an episode of the television show that I co-hosted Mysteries Decoded on the CW network in the United States. And we went to the gate to very 51. And of course, we stopped in Rachel, Nevada and went to the little alien. And the food leaves a little to be desired, that's for sure. But they, you know, they have fine saucer hamburgers and stuff like that.

And it's just, you don't go for the food. I'll put it that way. You go for the atmosphere, you go for the mystique, you go for the nostalgia, you go for the experience of going to the little alien, like this iconic place just outside of where Groom Lake is. And that was an experience, I will never forget. I might have told this story in the past of what happened to us. This did not make it on camera, unfortunately.

of course how appropriate. But when my investigative partner, former Navy, I guess not former, but a Navy veteran, Jennifer Marshall and I, we were with Tracy Austin, who is a UFO researcher as well, and she brought us to the back gate of Area 51. And we went as close as we thought we could get. But I will tell you this, the scariest part about going to Area 51 was I'd say we're about maybe two miles out from the back gate.

And we're in the car. We have a vehicle behind us who's got our crew, our sound people, all that stuff, everyone who's got all the tech stuff. And we're in our own vehicle, Tracy, Jennifer, and I. And we're driving down the lonely desert road to get to the back gate. And we had our radio on, but it was really low from what I remember. And all of a sudden, the radio started crackling and going crazy. And then a voice came through our radio.

And all it did for like a minute straight was repeat our license plate back to us, which was. So weird. So, so weird. You know, and Tracy starts telling us like, oh, yeah, they saw us coming for miles and miles away. They have sensors in the ground. They know you're on your way there. You know, you got the, what do they call those? The guys and the camo dudes, like up on the hills and everything. Like, they know you're coming. And they want you to know that they know you're coming. So that's what they were doing. They were kind of given us like a warning. Like, we know you're on your way to this game. And be careful. We have your license plate. We're already looking up, y'all. And yeah, don't get too close. So we didn't.

But that was weird. That was super weird. And, you know, I obviously asked our crew, I'm like, were you guys, like, was this a prank where you, like, found some weird way to tap into our radio or something like that? And they were like, what are you talking about? And it was just crazy.

It was a crazy experience. That was my experience at Area 51. And the hotel that I stayed at the night before, which was interesting to say the least. But that's a story for another time. Guys, go watch my interview with James Fox, please. I was so happy and honored and excited to be one of the first to get to sit down with them. There's going to be a ton of interviews coming out with them in the next few days. A few already have.

But yeah, yeah, I had the immense pleasure of joining James in the filming of this documentary in Calvine Scotland to go up to the famous Calvin Hills where one of the most clear UFO photos was ever taken. And it was an experience I will never forget. I was in a car for over two hours with Craig Lindsay, the former RAF press officer, who interviewed. you're the original witness of the Calvin UFO event. And we just had an incredible, incredible day. I will never, ever forget that. And I somehow made it into the documentary, which is cool. You can see me.

I'm a little blob in some of the drone footage when we were up in the Calvin Hills. And then he showed a still shot of us hiking up the hill. And I look horrible. I'm sweaty. I'm about 25 pounds overweight. and James Fox beat me up that hill with not a beat of sweat on the man's head. And I'm just drenched in sweat. It was also like cold out.

What the hell? I am so out of shape. That's my New Year's resolution, guys, going back to the gym. You only see me from here to here, and there's a reason for that. But I'm getting too self-deprecating. Please go watch the episode. It's also now available. It is this upcoming Monday's.

podcast episode. So if you're wondering why a new episode hasn't come out on Monday, it's because the James Fox interview is that episode. I've got some awesome interviews and episodes coming up after that, one of which is with Kelly Chase, who is the co-creator of the new docu-series Cosmosis, which will be premiering December 30th on Apple TV. I'll have more info for that about that very soon. It's an awesome series. I've been able to watch two episodes, two of the three episodes of it, And you guys are going to love it. You're going to love it. And I think that is it.

Wow. What a show. What a show. We covered so, so much. I want to thank Suzanne again for hopping in for drone zone. I really hope we don't have drone zone again anytime soon, but I have a bad feeling we are. But I do want to thank all of our regulars in the chat,

all of our new people. I want to thank our super stickers, super chatters. Thank you to those. at Twitch. Thank you to those on X for watching. Thank you to everybody listening to this in the future. It's been a hell of a year. Oh, yeah, speaking of which, like we live streamed, our year-in-review episode with Christina Gomez and Patrick from Vetted. You can watch that right here on YouTube. It will be coming out in podcast form in the last week of December as well. So if you want to hear about our thoughts on the 2024 UFO year-in-review,

There you go. It was so much fun. We had a great time doing that. And once again, if you want to take part in our awesome holiday giveaway, I'm going to be giving away. Volume 1 of Blue Book, the comic, which is incredible. It tells the entire story of the Betty and Barney Hill abduction case. It's so good, so, so, good from Michael Oiming and John, excuse me. Yeah, Tinian. as well. I'll be giving away this and a surprise holiday gift as well from me personally, both of these. So if you want to be put into the raffle to win these, go over to Apple Podcasts and leave us a rating and review. And it takes a little time for it to process and actually be seen.

So in the meantime, do it, rate and review. Send me a screenshot either through social media, send it through my DMs on Instagram, Twitter, Blue Sky, Facebook. All the links for those that are in the show notes. Or simply email me a screenshot of your rating and review. And you can send that to the email that's in the show notes as well. And all of you will be put into a raffle to win these prices. It is the absolute least I can do for you guys. But I really need those ratings and reviews on the biggest podcast platform out there.

And again, that is still Apple. Spotify is creeping up. But we're doing this contest for Apple. So thank you in advance for doing that, guys. Wishing you luck on winning the contest. And I want to wish all of you a very happy holiday season. I'm leaving to go home to the United States Wednesday. So I don't know what the live stream is going to look like.

Suzanne's going to be super busy during the holidays too. So we'll see. We'll see what happens. But if this is our last live stream of 2024, I want to thank all of you for an incredible year for sticking by me and supporting me and watching all of these. And yeah, it's been incredible to see this channel grow to have regulars every single week. Without doing this live stream, I never would have met Suzanne. And she has become invaluable. And that is such an understatement to what we do here.

So thank you. Thank you to all of you for supporting me this year. And hopefully in the future as well, I have no plans of going anywhere. It's going to be a busy year. I'm going to be filming again for Haunted come March. But that being said, you guys know I'm always, always hustling, grinding, and doing my thing. So hopefully we will continue the live streams. The podcast ain't going anywhere.

You will get new episodes every single Monday. And again, just thank you. Thank you for always being in my corner, for supporting my work in any small or big way. And it's just amazing. Thank you so much, Judy. I truly, truly do appreciate that. And yeah, that's going to do it, guys.

Like, subscribe, do all that YouTube stuff as well. And join us over on Discord. Once we finish these live streams, we try to continue the conversation over on Discord. There's a link for that in the chat as well. and we're growing ever, ever so gradually over there as well. And we just talk about what, you know, debrief from what we talked about here, talk about new things, talk about what's coming up on the podcast and everything in between.

So join our Discord server as well. Shout out to Hides and Longgrass and John for helping us put all of that together. The poll! I always forget the poll. That's like my tradition. Thank you, Pat. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Let's go to the poll.

I'm going to refresh because I do want to say. see what you guys said here. I asked over on YouTube, is there an actual drone invasion in New Jersey? Oh, man, it is like split down to like. 23% of you said, yes, we are screwed. 22% of you said, no, it's hysteria and social media. 32% of you said, I don't know. And 23% of you said, it's aliens, you fool.

man it was neck and neck between yes we're screwed know it's hysteria and it's aliens and a large portion of you said i don't know which yeah we don't know because we're not being told a damn thing so there you go guys there is the poll thank you so much to pat and i'm sure suzanne was waving to me pull pull pull i always forget it um simon thank you thank you so much for the super sticker as well truly do appreciate it It's going to do it, guys. We are just over the two-hour mark, so go. Eat, drink, be merry, enjoy your holidays. Have a very happy new year.

And we will see you very, very soon when. I don't know. But I promise you, I'll do everything in my power to make sure it's very, very soon. So I will leave you for the very last time possibly in 2024 with our motto as always. And that is keep your feet on the ground, but never stop searching someone in this guys. Happy holidays, happy New Year. Keep looking up. There's nothing to hide.

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